View Full Version : Favorite Peter/MJ moment?
arachnid-guy
08-31-2008, 05:48 AM
Aw...If i knew it was the 1000th post coming up, i'd have double posted before.
Also, I'd definitely trade the 1000 posts in this thread to save the life of another thread.
Themanofbat
08-31-2008, 11:31 AM
They won't have sex.
:yay:
Hobgoblin
08-31-2008, 12:09 PM
Yeah thats what I'm thinking.
arachnid-guy
08-31-2008, 01:39 PM
If MJ and Peter don't...I hope to see a scene with Aunt May and Prof. Warren.
Hobgoblin
08-31-2008, 01:49 PM
If MJ and Peter don't...I hope to see a scene with Aunt May and Prof. Warren.
...
*slap*
arachnid-guy
08-31-2008, 02:02 PM
Pfft.
:p
Hobgoblin
08-31-2008, 08:17 PM
*shoves part 4 of OMD at arachnid-guy*:hehe:
nobndfan
09-01-2008, 03:12 PM
Knowing the marriage was coming to an end, I didn't buy this issue...but I'm so glad to have seen it here. I love the look of pride on MJ's face just as Pete comes crashing through the window.
I think this issue gives Matt Fraction the right to write Amazing Spider-Man with a married Peter Parker. The guy is amazing. :yay:
Blackredens
09-02-2008, 07:20 AM
http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr17/Moonlight_075/MJBobbyCarr.jpg?t=1220027309
Oh wait that's not Peter :grin: My Bad
arachnid-guy
09-04-2008, 07:07 AM
I know this panel has been referenced to death.
But every page should have it. :o
I can't IMAGE a scene like this in the BND scenario.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3133/148830-31693-mary-jane_super.jpg
Chris Wallace
10-09-2008, 08:31 PM
It remains my favorite moment of theirs as well. Along with the wedding, their first meeting & her revelation that she's known all along.
The Caped Knight
10-19-2008, 12:12 AM
Time to resurrect this thread from the bone yard
ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL # 3
http://www.spider-man.pl/img/nowosci/ultimate_annual08.jpg
The relationship between Peter Parker and Mary Jane is one of the most iconic and popular romances in all of comics -- and in this very special issue by series writer Brian Michael Bendis (SECRET INVASION), and red-hot artist David Lafuente [HELLCAT], that relationship delves into an area never before seen in any Spider-Man comic! Destined to be one of the most controversial issues of the year! :spidey:
ragingdemon155
10-20-2008, 10:42 PM
Been gone for a while.
College sucks......
Anyway, thanks for resurrecting my topic. Hehe....still going strong.
Really looking forward to that Ultimate issue. I'm thinking they won't go through with it. I remember Bendis talking about how it took in a year or so just to get Marvel to go through with the issue. Bendis + USM + One Shot = Gold......
Captivated
10-28-2008, 12:43 AM
I was still collecting the hardback volumes of USM... but even that may be coming to an end...
If they actually cross this line... if Peter and MJ become blatantly sexually active... that would be a BIG mistake. HUGE. :mad:
Yeah, kids do it. And MANY kids DON'T. Waiting is smarter on SO many levels. Physical... emotional...
Spider-Man used to be inspiring... but Marvel seems to be hell-bent on destroying that. Hell, in ASM they tell us that Peter and MJ just shacked-up for years without marrying, so it would not surprise me if they trashed the character in USM as well.
I hope they don't. But, with all the CRAP that has happened with Spider-Man... I expect the worse. :(
JJJ's Ulcer
10-28-2008, 08:22 AM
I was still collecting the hardback volumes of USM... but even that may be coming to an end...
If they actually cross this line... if Peter and MJ become blatantly sexually active... that would be a BIG mistake. HUGE. :mad:
Yeah, kids do it. And MANY kids DON'T. Waiting is smarter on SO many levels. Physical... emotional...
Spider-Man used to be inspiring... but Marvel seems to be hell-bent on destroying that. Hell, in ASM they tell us that Peter and MJ just shacked-up for years without marrying, so it would not surprise me if they trashed the character in USM as well.
I hope they don't. But, with all the CRAP that has happened with Spider-Man... I expect the worse. :(
That may well be part of your religious conviction and that's great, but many people don't share those convictions. If they show it in a smart and thoughtful way, it will be a good story. It's all about the execution of the subject matter.
There's nothing wrong or unhealthy about premarital sex, if it's two loving, consenting, responsible individuals.
Captivated
11-01-2008, 12:09 PM
That may well be part of your religious conviction and that's great, but many people don't share those convictions. If they show it in a smart and thoughtful way, it will be a good story. It's all about the execution of the subject matter.
There's nothing wrong or unhealthy about premarital sex, if it's two loving, consenting, responsible individuals.
God created sex to be enjoyed, but gave it perimeters for GOOD reasons. He didn't say enjoy sex in marriage, and not outside of marriage, just to be a giant cosmic kill-joy.
I like this analogy: FIRE is beautiful in a fire place... keeps you warm and cozy on a cold night... cooks your food... and there is something so comforting, primal and mesmerizing about watching the flames... BUT that same fire OUTSIDE of the fireplace is devastating. It will consume and destroy in horrific ways.
But, God's commands aside, we're talking teens... First of all, they are RARELY responsible. And MOST of the time the "consenting" is preceded by a great deal of pressure or seduction. Both sexes are guilty, and it equals MANIPULATION.
"There's nothing wrong or unhealthy about premarital TEEN sex, if it's two loving, consenting, responsible individuals... !?"
THAT kind of thinking ^ is wrecking havoc on individuals and our society as a whole. Epidemic STDs, the greater emotional trauma of break-ups, unplanned pregnancies, single parent homes (statistically poorer), abortion (women KNOW they are killing a baby but feel trapped...), girls giving in and then feeling used... guys being manipulated and controlled... And the casualness that develops can turn sex into something as significant and meaningful as a good belch. :(
The vast majority of young relationships are NOT forever. Sex is meant to be "glue" in a committed (marriage) relationship. When it's part of a short-lived crush it can tear... the damage to the heart when the relationship breaks up is much greater, especially if you are also left alone with an STD or the guilt of an abortion.
BTW - Being OLDER and having volunteered in a crisis pregnancy center, I've heard many stories... I also have a cousin that got PG at "sweet 16." She was a cheerleader and her relationship with a linebacker on the football team was "loving, consensual" and devastating. It took her 10 years to get her life back on track and she'll never get back what should have been a carefree youth.
I just wish Spider-Man books would not perpetuate or glorify the minefield of premarital sex!
Lecture over... As you were.
:)
arachnid-guy
11-01-2008, 12:19 PM
So...um...yes.
Peter and MJ had secks outside of wedlock in the 616...didn't they?
Or at least as strongly implied as you can get away with- without ACTUALLY showing it?
Captivated
11-01-2008, 12:29 PM
Back on a Mary Jane and Peter track...
The "Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane" series is back! (Sorta) Yea! :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/Captivated_Edge/Spidey_MJ/47ST072ORX.jpg
http://www.comicbookbin.com/Spider-Man_Loves_Mary-Jane_003.html
Post OMD/BND I don't frequent the comic book stores anymore, and this series was SO behind schedule, I just found out about it. They're already on issue #3, but I'll be picking it up. Too bad it was downgraded to a short mini. :(
Also...
I VERY, VERY HIGHLY recommend
Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane, Vol. 1 (Hardcover) (http://www.amazon.com/Spider-Man-Loves-Mary-Jane-McKeever/dp/0785126104/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225560011&sr=8-2)
And
Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane, Vol. 2 (Hardcover) (http://www.amazon.com/Spider-Man-Loves-Mary-Jane-Vol/dp/0785130837/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225559908&sr=8-1)
Big, beautiful volumes that are relatively inexpensive, and the story/art is HIGH quality.
:)
arachnid-guy
11-01-2008, 12:34 PM
Awww it's cute. I really want to pick this up! Have been meaning to for a while. Maybe Xmas?
JJJ's Ulcer
11-01-2008, 01:23 PM
God created sex to be enjoyed, but gave it perimeters for GOOD reasons. He didn't say enjoy sex in marriage, and not outside of marriage, just to be a giant cosmic kill-joy.
I like this analogy: FIRE is beautiful in a fire place... keeps you warm and cozy on a cold night... cooks your food... and there is something so comforting, primal and mesmerizing about watching the flames... BUT that same fire OUTSIDE of the fireplace is devastating. It will consume and destroy in horrific ways.
But, God's commands aside, we're talking teens... First of all, they are RARELY responsible. And MOST of the time the "consenting" is preceded by a great deal of pressure or seduction. Both sexes are guilty, and it equals MANIPULATION.
"There's nothing wrong or unhealthy about premarital TEEN sex, if it's two loving, consenting, responsible individuals... !?"
THAT kind of thinking ^ is wrecking havoc on individuals and our society as a whole. Epidemic STDs, the greater emotional trauma of break-ups, unplanned pregnancies, single parent homes (statistically poorer), abortion (women KNOW they are killing a baby but feel trapped...), girls giving in and then feeling used... guys being manipulated and controlled... And the casualness that develops can turn sex into something as significant and meaningful as a good belch. :(
The vast majority of young relationships are NOT forever. Sex is meant to be "glue" in a committed (marriage) relationship. When it's part of a short-lived crush it can tear... the damage to the heart when the relationship breaks up is much greater, especially if you are also left alone with an STD or the guilt of an abortion.
BTW - Being OLDER and having volunteered in a crisis pregnancy center, I've heard many stories... I also have a cousin that got PG at "sweet 16." She was a cheerleader and her relationship with a linebacker on the football team was "loving, consensual" and devastating. It took her 10 years to get her life back on track and she'll never get back what should have been a carefree youth.
I just wish Spider-Man books would not perpetuate or glorify the minefield of premarital sex!
Lecture over... As you were.
:)
I really don't want to wade in religion/politics on a Spider-Man board, but what about the views and opinions of Spider-Man's atheist and agnostic readers?
I don't see anything wrong with this (IF that even happens in the USM issue) and I think you have an unfair and colored view towards premarital sex. There are many people who don't have sex until marriage and then find they can't emotionally or physically connect with eachother once they do. Anyway, back to Spidey...
Chris Wallace
11-01-2008, 01:31 PM
So...um...yes.
Peter and MJ had secks outside of wedlock in the 616...didn't they?
Or at least as strongly implied as you can get away with- without ACTUALLY showing it?
I kinda doubt it. But then, until some writer decides differently, he did sleep with Black Cat but not with Gwen. So who knows?
Hobgoblin
11-01-2008, 01:51 PM
I kinda doubt it. But then, until some writer decides differently, he did sleep with Black Cat but not with Gwen. So who knows?
It seems odd that Peter wouldnt sleep with a woman he loved and probably intended to marry, but did sleep with a woman he had mixed feelings about. Still, who knows what mindset he may have had with the Black Cat. May have just had a close call in battle and here is this crazy sexy woman in tight black leather. :o
I guess the same could be said for Gwen, but she always seemed a bit more proper than Felicia.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh291/gijustin5051/DSC00076_edited-1.jpg
arachnid-guy
11-01-2008, 01:56 PM
I kinda doubt it. But then, until some writer decides differently, he did sleep with Black Cat but not with Gwen. So who knows?
Well, you can read into it both ways.
It's generally the case that an image of someone closing the door after mentioning 'Lady am I GLAD to see you!' [or words to that effect] wouldn't just sit on the couch and watch Saturday Night Live with a hot cocoa. That statement seems to imply something pretaining to sex. And given the sexual freedom of the age in which it was written, of course?
But as I said...you can read in to it both ways. A snuggle is prefectly fine.
Chris Wallace
11-01-2008, 06:29 PM
It seems odd that Peter wouldnt sleep with a woman he loved and probably intended to marry, but did sleep with a woman he had mixed feelings about.
The title of his comic is Spider-Man.
J/K-are we any different? We do dumb things in a relationship. Confusing things. And our first loves didn't die right in front of us.
Chris Wallace
11-01-2008, 06:31 PM
Well, you can read into it both ways.
It's generally the case that an image of someone closing the door after mentioning 'Lady am I GLAD to see you!' [or words to that effect] wouldn't just sit on the couch and watch Saturday Night Live with a hot cocoa. That statement seems to imply something pretaining to sex. And given the sexual freedom of the age in which it was written, of course?
But as I said...you can read in to it both ways. A snuggle is prefectly fine.
Like I said, that's how it is until some writer says differently. He told MJ that he & Gwen never did it, & Felicia said in "The Evil That Men Do" that their relationship was strictly physical.
Hobgoblin
11-01-2008, 08:58 PM
The title of his comic is Spider-Man.
Touche, sir. :o
Chris Wallace
11-01-2008, 10:42 PM
I'm just saying; for even the smartest man to make a decision with his member rather than his head or heart is not entirely unheard of.
Hobgoblin
11-02-2008, 12:00 AM
I'm just saying; for even the smartest man to make a decision with his member rather than his head or heart is not entirely unheard of.
Guilty as charged. And I'm far from the smartest man.
(Waits for a wise ass comment.)
Chris Wallace
03-08-2009, 03:29 AM
I have no room to talk, having moved across state lines to rekindle a relationship with a woman who dumped me 12 years ago.
SPIDER-ADDA
03-28-2009, 04:47 PM
I have no room to talk, having moved across state lines to rekindle a relationship with a woman who dumped me 12 years ago.
Same here, except I'm the one who ruined the relationship.
Faded To Deaf
03-28-2009, 05:06 PM
The "I Remember Gwen" story in The Amazing Spider-man 365, August. It describes why Mary Jane will always be in Gwen's shadow, and why she has to be the best wife ever for everyone's favourite wall-crawling hero.
EDIT: It just makes me mad that Marvel changed everything about the marriage. :down
imdaly
03-28-2009, 08:11 PM
The "I Remember Gwen" story in The Amazing Spider-man 365, August. It describes why Mary Jane will always be in Gwen's shadow, and why she has to be the best wife ever for everyone's favourite wall-crawling hero.
EDIT: It just makes me mad that Marvel changed everything about the marriage. :down
I just went back and re-read that. :) Good story.
I have to point out the now-ironic thing she said at the end of it though:
"I wouldn't trade our marriage for anything in the world!"
...except for Aunt May's life, right, MJ? ;)
Faded To Deaf
03-28-2009, 08:38 PM
I just went back and re-read that. :) Good story.
I have to point out the now-ironic thing she said at the end of it though:
"I wouldn't trade our marriage for anything in the world!"
...except for Aunt May's life, right, MJ? ;)
More contradictory than ironic, but it's nice to know someone else likes the story too.
The Caped Knight
05-17-2009, 08:43 AM
Spider-Man & MJ
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3598/8007228015newstoryimage.jpg
http://www.comicvine.com/news/j-scott-campbells-spider-manmary-jane-cover/138474/
Hobgoblin
05-17-2009, 09:36 AM
Hot.
This is one of the first ASM issues I've looked forward to in a long time.
Chris Wallace
06-09-2009, 01:43 PM
I like Campbell's Spidey art.
shinlyle
06-09-2009, 02:13 PM
The "I Remember Gwen" story in The Amazing Spider-man 365, August. It describes why Mary Jane will always be in Gwen's shadow, and why she has to be the best wife ever for everyone's favourite wall-crawling hero.
EDIT: It just makes me mad that Marvel changed everything about the marriage. :down
Of course that story was great! It paired Stan Lee and John Romita Sr. on a story! Hard to go wrong, there!! JRSR is still the greatest, too. I like that he drew an older MJ with a little age, without making her look old. Very well done. Also, watching him redraw some classic scenes was great.
As for Marvel changing everything, they did. This story, as well as the SSM annual, Web of Romance, etc proves that it is all wrong.
Stuart Green
06-23-2009, 04:51 PM
6/23/2009
Hello,
In case anyone else here is a fan of the currently-erased marriage of Peter (Spider-Man) Parker and Mary Jane Watson, there is a new, unofficial group for fans to check out and/or join on Facebook. Just go here:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=111081818082
Thanks for your time,
S.G.
Godzilla2014
07-07-2009, 06:11 PM
The "I Remember Gwen" story in The Amazing Spider-man 365, August. It describes why Mary Jane will always be in Gwen's shadow, and why she has to be the best wife ever for everyone's favourite wall-crawling hero.
EDIT: It just makes me mad that Marvel changed everything about the marriage. :down
The truth about Gwen is that Peter doesn't remember who she really was anymore, just that she died because she was his girlfriend. Mary Jane is not in her shadow, and I'm tired of writers trying to tell me she is. Gwen was a horrible boring ass character whose death I welcomed as she had annoyed me to death already. Let the boring, utterly uninteresting character rest in peace. Unless you're going add to the character and maybe explain why she was the person we knew, then leave her boring @$$ to rot.
Themanofbat
07-07-2009, 06:24 PM
The truth about Gwen is that Peter doesn't remember who she really was anymore, just that she died because she was his girlfriend. Mary Jane is not in her shadow, and I'm tired of writers trying to tell me she is. Gwen was a horrible boring ass character whose death I welcomed as she had annoyed me to death already. Let the boring, utterly uninteresting character rest in peace. Unless you're going add to the character and maybe explain why she was the person we knew, then leave her boring @$$ to rot.
That's a pretty narrow-minded opinion about how Peter "thinks"...
Just recently he went to Gwen's grace to have a "talk"... maybe YOU think she was just Peter's "girlfriend", but she was THE girl that Peter was destined to marry... if it ever had the chance to happen.
Even when Peter was going to propose to MJ for the second time, he went to the "bridge" to talk to Gwen about it and how MJ wasn't going to replace her...
Sorry you might not agree, but that's how much the character of Gwen meant to Peter Parker and will always be a large part of the Spidey mythos.
:yay:
jeffjhicks
07-07-2009, 07:07 PM
Amazing Spider-Man #300. When they take some photos for the "private" collection.
Godzilla2014
07-07-2009, 11:03 PM
Well, being one of the few around here who actually read about Gwen in comics when she was alive and seeing her & Peter interact, methinks you assume a wee bit too much...
And you're passing quite the judgement on a LOT of good writers by saying they didn't know about "their" relationship... :whatever:
And a "pro-crybaby bubble"? What the hell is that? Did it come with your "I wish I had an MJ blow up doll"?
Give me a break... speak to me like a grown-up as opposed to your peers in 5th grade...
We've all read the early ASM issues... how can you not see how much Gwen means to Peter? The only reason Peter and MJ made it as far as they did was because MJ revealed to Peter that she had known his secret... he would have never told her. I'm not saying that MJ didn't turn out to be an important person in Peter's life, but it's awfully presumptuous to think that she was the "one".
Yes... Gerry Conway had Gwen killed because he couldn't write her character properly, because she became a 2 dimensional crybaby AFTER her father died... she had some depth prior to that... and even after Gwen died, it's not like MJ took over... after some time, Peter developped "rebound" feelings and proposed... only to have MJ run away and be gone from the books for FIVE years (1978-1983). Roger Stern finally brought her back not to be Peter's love, but because she was a good friend and an old supporting cast member, something good writers do when writing a book... work with the book's rich history... even when DeFalco told us that she knew his secret, it's not like they fell in "love"... heck, they were hardly dating when Peter suddenly "proposes" again... yeah, that's some really heartfelt love right there... :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
You can believe what you want and live in your delusional world, but at the end of the day, Peter's a born loser never destined to be with ANY woman because the Spectre of Spider-Man will always come between them.
And you can take that to the bank, sonny...
:yay:
Gwen never trusted Peter like your future wife should. She was also too stupid to put the pieces of the puzzle together.
Ok, what I meant to say was that their relationship was overromanticized posthumously by writers that wanted to turn her into a martyr.
I admit the procrybaby bubble thing was uncalled for.
Ok.
Have you ever noticed how since her death we have practically never seen her in anything but the outfit she died in? My interpretation is that in the 10 years since Gwen died, most of Peter's memories of her have been forgotten, twisted, distorted, and romanticized until we arrive at today. Peter really only seems to remember that he was planning on marrying her and that the Green Goblin killed her before it happened. People say that he's never been the same since she died. How is he different? Gwen's death shocked Peter, yes, but he failed to learn the lesson behind her death. To think that Gwen was "the one" is also presumptuous. I agree with Conroy that Peter was destined to marry Mary Jane.
No. Gerry Conroy killed her off because the character had used up her storylines, was boring, and was in the way of Peter ending up with Mary Jane.
Gwen underwent massive changes in her character without any explanation in the context of the story. She started off as a Liz Allen ripoff ***** character, turned into a less *****y version of her previous incarnation, became a daddy's girl crybaby, then became a crybaby after her father's death all without any explanation in the context of the story except for the final change. Her character was mortally injured once she got together with Peter. It was only a matter of time, and a ballsy writer like Gerry Conroy to finish her off 7.5 years after she was introduced. While it wasn't a mad dash to the altar after Gwen died, the chain of events was set into motion that lead to their marriage.
This thinking that Peter must be a loser is major force behind a hell of a lot that is wrong with modern Spider-Man stories. Peter is meant to be able to get married. He's marrying type. He was destined to marry Mary Jane and he did. Also, you argument would apply to him marrying Gwen too.
Gwen would never have been able to work as Mrs. Parker. Mostly because Mary Jane kicks her @$$.
Hobgoblin
07-07-2009, 11:31 PM
Knock it off guys. Keep it civil or there will be more infractions. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.
Themanofbat
07-08-2009, 11:03 AM
This thinking that Peter must be a loser is major force behind a hell of a lot that is wrong with modern Spider-Man stories. Peter is meant to be able to get married. He's marrying type. He was destined to marry Mary Jane and he did. Also, you argument would apply to him marrying Gwen too.
Peter Parker, while the family man that he so desperately wants to be, simply cannot be because of the overwhelming guilt that drives him to be Spider-Man.
Yes... the Spectre of Spider-Man would have come between him and Gwen, just like it did with his first love, Betty Brant, and ultimately, it came between him and Mary Jane.
Just my two cents...
:yay:
Godzilla2014
07-08-2009, 01:40 PM
Peter Parker, while the family man that he so desperately wants to be, simply cannot be because of the overwhelming guilt that drives him to be Spider-Man.
Yes... the Spectre of Spider-Man would have come between him and Gwen, just like it did with his first love, Betty Brant, and ultimately, it came between him and Mary Jane.
Just my two cents...
:yay:
Yes being Spider-Man added stress to his relationships, but it didn't destroy his marriage with Mary Jane, like it would have if he had married Gwen. I think that Mary Jane is simply a lot better choice for marrying him than Gwen. Gwen just too emotionally fragile for it to have worked in my opinion.
ragingdemon155
07-27-2009, 07:05 PM
MJ is finally back. Here's hoping that Marvel actually utilizes are character and she isn't merely there for the sake of shock value.
Chris Wallace
07-28-2009, 06:46 AM
Let's hope.
moraldeficiency
07-29-2009, 12:17 PM
Peter Parker, while the family man that he so desperately wants to be, simply cannot be because of the overwhelming guilt that drives him to be Spider-Man.
Yes... the Spectre of Spider-Man would have come between him and Gwen, just like it did with his first love, Betty Brant, and ultimately, it came between him and Mary Jane.
Just my two cents...
:yay:
Spectre of Spider-Man or Joey Q? You decide gentle viewer. The other break ups were actually plot related and made some of the best Spider-Man stories of all time, with MJ you got OMD and they've done everything possible to pretend that didn't really happen. Seems a bit different in circumstances.
Chris Wallace
07-30-2009, 06:52 AM
The truth about Gwen is that Peter doesn't remember who she really was anymore, just that she died because she was his girlfriend. Mary Jane is not in her shadow, and I'm tired of writers trying to tell me she is. Gwen was a horrible boring ass character whose death I welcomed as she had annoyed me to death already. Let the boring, utterly uninteresting character rest in peace. Unless you're going add to the character and maybe explain why she was the person we knew, then leave her boring @$$ to rot.
Doesn't help that JMS took away from her.
Spider-Man Luvr28
09-21-2009, 05:03 PM
I just saw this so I thought I'd post it.
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/5273/web50.jpg
:funny:
Meehaul
09-21-2009, 08:28 PM
My favorite Pete/MJ moment is yet to come: Pete remembers the Mephisto moment. Loki finally discharges his debt to Pete: time reverses. The sniper gets Aunt May in his sights. MJ leaps in front of May, taking the bullet in the heart. MJ dies. Pete once again faces loss, tragedy. Aunt May makes him wheat cakes and Pete remembers why he vowed never to marry, never to bring others within his circle of danger. He blames himself for failing to protect MJ. Once again, Pete experiences the weight of loss.
Hobgoblin
09-21-2009, 10:10 PM
My favorite Pete/MJ moment is yet to come: Pete remembers the Mephisto moment. Loki finally discharges his debt to Pete: time reverses. The sniper gets Aunt May in his sights. MJ leaps in front of May, taking the bullet in the heart. MJ dies. Pete once again faces loss, tragedy. Aunt May makes him wheat cakes and Pete remembers why he vowed never to marry, never to bring others within his circle of danger. He blames himself for failing to protect MJ. Once again, Pete experiences the weight of loss.
I dont think thats terrible. I would prefer that MJ survive but its really the most realistic way to end the marriage.
ragingdemon155
09-23-2009, 11:35 AM
Every time I see Aunt May I'm reminded of OMD. Heh, I blame the old hag for everything. There is no point to having her in the comics right now. JMS wrote a damn good Aunt May, but the character is past her time already. She's bringing absolutely nothing to the title.
Themanofbat
09-23-2009, 01:24 PM
Every time I see Aunt May I'm reminded of OMD. Heh, I blame the old hag for everything. There is no point to having her in the comics right now. JMS wrote a damn good Aunt May, but the character is past her time already. She's bringing absolutely nothing to the title.
She's Peter's "Mom"... she has every right and reason to be in the books...
:huh: :huh: :huh:
:yay:
ragingdemon155
09-23-2009, 07:33 PM
She's Peter's "Mom"... she has every right and reason to be in the books...
:huh: :huh: :huh:
:yay:
When JMS handled her it was different, because she was actually interesting. Now her character isn't adding anything to the title. She's Peter's mom and Marvel needs to cut the cord :oldrazz:.
The Caped Knight
09-23-2009, 07:56 PM
Spectacular Spider-Man #194:
http://img2.pict.com/76/35/61/1652118/0/spec194.jpg
Amazing Spider-Man #406
http://img2.pict.com/65/31/35/1652120/0/amz406.jpg
The Caped Knight
09-23-2009, 07:59 PM
Amazing Spiderman 381
http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2009/255/8/b/spiderman_marriage_by_rzerox21xx.jpg
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The Caped Knight
09-23-2009, 08:02 PM
I hate JQ with a passion. At least Stan "The Man" Lee still understands Spidey .
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Spider-ManHero12
09-23-2009, 08:25 PM
^^ Ahh, those great newspaper strips. God, how I enjoy reading them. :up:
Spider-Gnome
09-23-2009, 09:22 PM
Spectacular Spider-Man #194:
Amazing Spider-Man #406
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Wow. Just wow.
A lot of potential good stories were thrown out...
Hobgoblin
09-23-2009, 09:53 PM
Wow. Just wow.
A lot of potential good stories were thrown out...
But we are getting so many better stories with a single, childless Peter.:huh:
:csad:
Spider-ManHero12
09-23-2009, 10:14 PM
She's Peter's "Mom"... she has every right and reason to be in the books...
:huh: :huh: :huh:
:yay: Took the words right out of my mouth. :up:
JustABill
09-24-2009, 01:06 AM
She's Peter's mom whose doing absolutely nothing but taking up pages.
There's two living characters in comics that have far out stayed their purpose in the mythos of those books and those are Aunt May and Professor Xavier. They've both done everything they possibly could as characters. They were great, but really they are doing absolutely nothing new or interesting and it's just better to give them a profound farewell and let the characters live on without them.
JayTee
09-24-2009, 03:58 AM
Aunt May is a constant reminder to Peter that Uncle Ben is gone and it is his fault. Killing her off was stupid, and letting her know his secret was just as stupid.
To overlook Aunt May's importance is to dismiss Peter's responsibility and guilt.
That said- My favorite Peter and MJ moment is her closing the door after Gwen died.
JustABill
09-24-2009, 08:36 AM
I think the fact that y'know Uncle Ben is even dead at all is enough of a reason/reminder of why Peter does what he does. He'd still remember that even if Aunt May was gone.
ragingdemon155
09-24-2009, 12:31 PM
I think the fact that y'know Uncle Ben is even dead at all is enough of a reason/reminder of why Peter does what he does. He'd still remember that even if Aunt May was gone.
Agreed.
If a character is adding nothing to a title, then that character should go. I prefer the edgier version of Aunt May (USM and JMS interpretation) over this version. Personally, I skip over most of her panels in ASM nowadays. It's not good or interesting reading. Her character has become stale, boring and needs to move on.
But to each his own. If it was up to me, Aunt May would have stayed gone after ASM #400. :o
Meehaul
09-24-2009, 02:04 PM
I like Aunt May for some of the reasons listed above, mostly that she serves as a reminder of Peter's earliest failure. I would have been ok had they let her rest in peace following ASM 400 though. As this is a Pete/MJ thread, however, I have to say, most of these depictions sort of remind me why I'd prefer that MJ was dead instead of the mystical neutral zone in which she now exits. As has been noted, there's a very good reason weddings and births occur at the very END of stories rather than half way through. The MJ stuff, to me, jumped the shark long, long ago. Pete, married to a super model, living the good life, with a baby just doesn't interest me (unless they actually decided to let Pete & family age and have him die at the end--that would make for an interesting story-but having Pete be Homer Simpson-ville with little Mayday forever a child would just suck). I think she and Gwen could do a fine job of watching over Pete from above. Or wherever.
JayTee
09-24-2009, 10:06 PM
If a character is adding nothing to a title, you MAKE them add something to a title. Saying "I wish the old lady would die" is rather disturbing and just leaves room for more actresses and clones and mystical spells and bulls***. Killing off Aunt May would be like killing off Alfred in Batman. It'll never stick. They're too integral to the mythos.
Applauding JMS for his portrayal of Aunt May sums up post-Quesada fandom in a nutshell too. "Hey, now that (insert character) is completely different from always depicted due to (insert hotshot writer), it's genius!".
SpideyZERO
10-02-2009, 04:29 AM
I just ordered the Spider-Man/Mary Jane tpb. It seems to contain a lot of important Peter/MJ issue and most importantly the parallel life graphic novel. It's a shame that it has no wedding issue though
The Caped Knight
01-15-2011, 02:19 AM
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06. The Lovers— Spider-Man and Mary Jane
Have you ever had such a deep, intense connection with someone, romantic or platonic, that it feels a bit like fate that you met them, to the point where even if they’re out of your life, their presence is still there? That’s the essence of The Lovers card, and the essence of Mary Jane and Peter Parker’s relationship.
They’re in each others’ lives for better or worse (currently worse, unfortunately), and the bond they share is literally cosmic in nature, rewritten by extraordinary forces. It doesn’t matter that they aren’t together or that their relationship was sadly cheapened, it matters that they will always be friends, that Mary Jane will always be the one Peter can trust and go to with anything. Some people just don’t leave your life, and the connections you make and the emotional positivity of new and seriously relationships that this card signifies is always something to look forward to and embrace.
I don't know when or how but Peter & Mary Jane will be reunited as Husband and wife .
Mary Jane Watson
09-30-2011, 01:56 AM
Bump!
I just saw this so I thought I'd post it.
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to keep this thread alive. :)
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