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Not Jake

07-18-2006, 04:45 PM

Speedball

07-18-2006, 05:04 PM

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2006/07/the_new_buffy_c.html

http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncategorized/173745__buffy_l.jpg

Put me on the waiting list for a firearm because I can kill myself happily after this series comes out.

LOL!
So is this suppossed to be Queen of the Slayers but in Comic book form, and the story continues?

deathshead2

07-18-2006, 05:08 PM

Huh Buffy don't much care for the show or this comic. But firefly yeah that I would read.

Harlekin

07-18-2006, 05:51 PM

Can't wait.

Not Jake

07-18-2006, 07:34 PM

I myself am going to finish season 7 of Buffy here in a week or two, so I won't be having as long a wait for this as some of you people.:o But it will be just as torturous.:(

Joss is writing the first 4 issues of this series, last I heard. Dunno who's taking over afterward, but pretty sure Joss has the overall plot mapped out because not only is this being referred to as a "season" of Buffy, but he was talking about (paraphrasing) "big things going on in the Buffyverse" awhile ago on his site. Anyway...I am anticipating this greatly.

Has anyone read the "Angel: Old Friends" series yet? I've seen like 5 issues in my comic shop, and not only am I wondering if it'll be collected in trade, but I'm wondering if it's good at all. I hear it takes place after the final season of Angel. Correct?

And are the "Spike vs Dracula" comics good?

Harlekin

07-19-2006, 04:44 AM

Yeah, Old Friends takes place after the end of Angel. I haven't heard favourable reviews in the sense that it was 'Wow! Spectacular! Mondo cool!' but that it was rather mediocre.

ReptileOrion

07-19-2006, 08:36 AM

I haven't read any of the Buffy, Angel, or Firefly comics. I guess comics are the only medium on which the stories will continue I think I will have to pick some of them up. Does anyone know who is the publisher for the comics?

Trigger

07-19-2006, 08:43 AM

I don't read many of the Buffy comics, but I miss the show enough to read this.

Harlekin

07-19-2006, 10:35 AM

Not Jake

07-19-2006, 10:55 AM

Yeah, Old Friends takes place after the end of Angel. I haven't heard favourable reviews in the sense that it was 'Wow! Spectacular! Mondo cool!' but that it was rather mediocre.
I will still probably get it

Anyone hear about Angel: The Curse or Spike vs Dracula? Good?

Harlekin

07-19-2006, 11:00 AM

I heard The Curse was also rather mediocre, but Spike vs Dracula is supposed to be pretty fun. You can always look into the Spotlight issues too. I picked up Wesley's and it's awesome.

Not Jake

07-19-2006, 11:25 AM

I will but I don't wnat to ruin anything from season 5 of Angel for myself so I am holding out:o

Harlekin

07-19-2006, 11:32 AM

Good man. :up:

Joker

07-19-2006, 11:35 AM

I cant wait for this...I've liked the angel ones so far, and the Spike one shots and mini have been f**kin great...although I might get this in TPB, cause I have all the other Buffy comics in TPB...

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 12:31 PM

I can never seem to bring myself to read any comics related to live-action TV series. Something about the whole thing just seems tacky. Plus, the last season of Buffy sucked and, by the end of it, Buffy herself was a completely irredeemable douchebag. I couldn't stand her.

Oh, except Fray. I read Fray and loved it, but it didn't have any artists' renderings of real-life actors, so maybe that's why I could read it.

DBM

07-19-2006, 12:55 PM

I'm looking forward to this. Mainly because of Whedon's involvement. I've read the comics that he had actual input in, but I avoid the ones that he didn't write or at least plot.

Though I did read some of the ones Jane Espenson did. She's funny.

Lackey

07-19-2006, 01:18 PM

Sarah Michelle Gellar wishes she looked that good :mad:

Harlekin

07-19-2006, 01:23 PM

I will say Buffy is looking extremely hot on that cover. I can't stop looking at it.

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 01:59 PM

Her head's a little too small, but I'm impressed that that's Georges Jeanty's work. I never really thought he was that great.

Edit: Never mind, that's Jo Chen's art. I guess Jeanty's doing the interiors.

Not Jake

07-19-2006, 02:10 PM

1. SMG wishes she looked more like that cover...IN BIZARRO WORLD YEAH LACKEY OOH YOU GOT FACED
2. Season 7 of Buffy doesn't suck, I have 3 eps left to go so don't ruin it for me Corp, but I like it, Buffy isn't unlikeable, she's just a general and generals need to be jerks sometimes.:o
3. I hate you Corp:mad:

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 02:12 PM

Buffy's totally unlikable. She was a general to her friends in previous episodes without becoming a complete douche. I liked most of the newbie Slayers more than I liked her, and that's just not good when you consider how much fun she was in earlier seasons.

By the way, I love you too, Jakey-poo. :)

Not Jake

07-19-2006, 02:18 PM

except in earlier seasons she was just top scooby, not General Buffy of the Slayer division

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 02:19 PM

Leading troops is still leading troops. She's had to make hard decisions before and possibly sacrifice those close to her. She struggled with it but moved on and came out like her old self. Season 7 featured a complete overhaul of her character in directions that just annoyed me. Maybe I'm being too harsh, though. I admit, it's been a pretty long time since I actually watched season 7. Maybe my opinions would be different if I watched it again.

Not Jake

07-19-2006, 02:22 PM

Yes do it:o

I think it's clearly better than seasons 4 and 6, and I thought those were good too, just not as good as the other ones:o

Joker

07-19-2006, 03:03 PM

dude, season 6 was the best season...the Trio pwn joo, except for Warren, because he killed Tara...the bastard :mad:

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 03:28 PM

I thought six was second-worst after seven.

Joker

07-19-2006, 03:38 PM

I liked 7 too...not my favorite season, but not my least favorite either...that would be 4, and the first half of 5, because I hate Reily so much that I hope the actor who played him f**king dies, just in case :mad:

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 03:40 PM

I never really had any problem with Riley. He was kind of a dork and mostly useless, but then, Buffy never did have very good taste in men. I thought his swan song was a cool story, too.

Joker

07-19-2006, 03:43 PM

I hated him...he was just such a jock, douche bag...I hate people like him in real life too...my only regret is that Spike never killed him, that's what should have happened :o

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 03:44 PM

At least Angel got to beat the living crap out of him with ease. :)

Joker

07-19-2006, 03:46 PM

I did like that in that episode Riley thought Angel had gone evil again, and his reaction at the end when he found out that was him normally

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 03:48 PM

I just liked the fact that Riley really couldn't stand up to Angel at all. Angel seriously made him look like a little girl. :p

DBM

07-19-2006, 03:48 PM

I liked season 7. Mostly because of Spike though. His interaction with everyone was what made the season. I hated most of the potentials, especially Kennedy.

I ****ing hate Kennedy. :mad::mad::mad: (three mads to show my hate)

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 03:49 PM

I liked Kennedy a lot. What was wrong with her, other than the writers' rushing her into trying to fill the void that Tara left? :confused:

Joker

07-19-2006, 05:08 PM

I didnt mind kennedy...yes, she was the anti-tara, but I'd rather have that then a clone of her with a different name

Lackey

07-19-2006, 05:31 PM

Not Jake

07-19-2006, 06:30 PM

It's true:eek:

DBM

07-19-2006, 08:08 PM

I liked Kennedy a lot. What was wrong with her, other than the writers' rushing her into trying to fill the void that Tara left? :confused:

That's the exact reason.

The love of your life gets murdered which hurts you so much that you nearly destroy the world and you get over that in less than a year and start ****ing some barely legal girl you met a month or two ago? Bull****.

Plus Kennedy was whiny, *****y and pushy all the time. She's the one that instigated half of the problems with the scoobies and potentials. I couldn't stand her.

Spoilers as a courtesy to Not Jake who hasn't finished season 7 yet.
I know Whedon has said that he wanted at least one main character to be in a happy relationship at the end of the show, but I personally think it should have been Anya and Xander. Anya's death was pretty meaningless, even after she had been a main character for several years. I was totally disappointed that she died in such a half-assed way and Kennedy got to live happily ever after. And Xander was pretty much the fall guy for the whole series. To paraphrase Xander, it would have been nice if he hadn't still ended up as the butt-monkey.

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Not Jake

07-19-2006, 08:26 PM

DBM is so smart and cute and funny and kind for using spoiler tags:)

Boy crush!

TheCorpulent1

07-19-2006, 11:11 PM

That's the exact reason.

The love of your life gets murdered which hurts you so much that you nearly destroy the world and you get over that in less than a year and start ****ing some barely legal girl you met a month or two ago? Bull****.

Plus Kennedy was whiny, *****y and pushy all the time. She's the one that instigated half of the problems with the scoobies and potentials. I couldn't stand her.

Spoilers as a courtesy to Not Jake who hasn't finished season 7 yet.
I know Whedon has said that he wanted at least one main character to be in a happy relationship at the end of the show, but I personally think it should have been Anya and Xander. Anya's death was pretty meaningless, even after she had been a main character for several years. I was totally disappointed that she died in such a half-assed way and Kennedy got to live happily ever after. And Xander was pretty much the fall guy for the whole series. To paraphrase Xander, it would have been nice if he hadn't still ended up as the butt-monkey.

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I didn't like that she was pushed into the rebound position either, but that was more the writers' fault for plotting the story that way. I didn't really find her all that *****y, either. Pushy, maybe, but in an understandable way, especially when Buffy was being at least a thousand times the ***** Kennedy was and getting the potentials killed left and right with her inner conflict over whether she should be generalissimo of them in the first place.

I do, however, agree wholeheartedly that Xander and Anya should've been the happy couple by the end of the series. Anya was so obviously killed for shock and nothing else, just like Wash in Serenity. It's like Whedon feels the need to kill the most likable character every time he's got some kind of ending to create for a series, just to show viewers that he has the balls to do it 'cause, what the hell, they don't really matter anymore.

Hmm, how about that... I seem to be much more bitter than I realized, even after all these years. :o

ReptileOrion

07-19-2006, 11:15 PM

Dark Horse does Buffy, IDW does Angel.

Thanks for the info. I think I will check out a few issues.

The Question

07-20-2006, 01:57 AM

Harlekin

07-20-2006, 05:12 AM

I do, however, agree wholeheartedly that Xander and Anya should've been the happy couple by the end of the series. Anya was so obviously killed for shock and nothing else, just like Wash in Serenity. It's like Whedon feels the need to kill the most likable character every time he's got some kind of ending to create for a series, just to show viewers that he has the balls to do it 'cause, what the hell, they don't really matter anymore.
I heard that Emma Caulfield wanted Anya killed so she had no obligations for further Buffy/Angel work.

TheCorpulent1

07-20-2006, 08:38 AM

I heard that Emma Caulfield wanted Anya killed so she had no obligations for further Buffy/Angel work.
Who cares? Write the character out without having her appear if something new comes up, but for Christ's sake, Xander and Anya deserved the damn happy ending. :(

Harlekin

07-20-2006, 10:36 AM

I'll give you that. :(

hippy fascist

07-21-2006, 04:43 AM

Who cares? Write the character out without having her appear if something new comes up, but for Christ's sake, Xander and Anya deserved the damn happy ending. :(

There was a point to that ending you know. Anya was a selfish coward her whole life, but when it came down to it she gave her life and died for a noble cause. She redeemed herself with her final act and I think that's a GREAT way for her character to go out! Yes it was harsh on xander but there's a certain sense that even if she didn't want out, this would have been how things would have gone. A fitting way to tie up a fantastic character :)

TheCorpulent1

07-21-2006, 11:04 AM

hippy fascist

07-21-2006, 02:07 PM

Nice, but it actually isn't true. Anya was genuinely good while she was with Xander. She fought for noble causes alongside the other Scoobies, she sacrificed, etc. She had changed on a fundamental level. So much so that after she went back to being a vengeance demon, she couldn't bring herself to do anything much beyond the level of pranks. Anya did her time, and Xander was the whipping boy for practically the entire series. They both deserved a little happiness in the end, instead of General *****master Buffy or, at the very least, Faith the heartless murderer.

Faith the heartless murderer who went and sat in a jail she could have broken out of at any point on account of a genuine desire to atone for her crimes. Faith did her time and new she'd done a great deal of evil deeds, and she'd still be sitting in that jail if it wasn't for the apocolypse. Anya's death was like doyles, not a bad person but their first noble act and you can't undo that. It's a great way to go out and I respected the character all the more for it.

euroq

07-21-2006, 03:10 PM

Buffy's totally unlikable. She was a general to her friends in previous episodes without becoming a complete douche.
Yeah, in the end she was the least likeable of the old gang. Some might say she was always that but at least she used to be a somewhat sympathetic character.

Speedball

07-21-2006, 09:45 PM

Buffy season eight, eh? Interesting. You know, I had an idea for a Buffy season eight type story. Had Buffy and Giles forming a new Watcher's council with the potentials, and Buffy becoming the council's Nick Fury figure.
YAY! QUESTION!
I always thought Queen of the Slayers was season 8.
Is this supposed to an adaptation, or is it going to be completely different, because I REALLY liked the story in the book.

The Question

07-21-2006, 09:58 PM

YAY! QUESTION!

I always thought Queen of the Slayers was season 8.

Is this supposed to an adaptation, or is it going to be completely different, because I REALLY liked the story in the book.

Joss never reads the extended universe stuff based on his creations. Only listens to the plot summaries. He says that if he starts reading them, he'd just end up rewriting the whole thing.

TheCorpulent1

07-22-2006, 02:13 PM

Faith the heartless murderer who went and sat in a jail she could have broken out of at any point on account of a genuine desire to atone for her crimes. Faith did her time and new she'd done a great deal of evil deeds, and she'd still be sitting in that jail if it wasn't for the apocolypse. Anya's death was like doyles, not a bad person but their first noble act and you can't undo that. It's a great way to go out and I respected the character all the more for it.
It wasn't her "first" noble act, though. The message you're talking about was sent a long time before that. She'd already changed for the better.

MyPokerShirt

07-23-2006, 01:22 PM

to clarify the previous series of buffy comics takes off from where the tv series ended right?