6.04 Arrow - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[M.O.Steel]

There is absolutely no denying that this specific green arrow clearly resembles BAtman. The death of rich parents, billionaire playboy, the relationship with lois, the "no powers with stealth" superhero, the previous relationship with lex, and even the music sounds very batman-ish.

[phil]

man, some of you just pick apart a great episode way too much, why don't you just enjoy some obvious cool superhero action before our eyes? GA was awesome, Clark was awesome, the whole episode rocked!

[The Caped Knight]

There is absolutely no denying that this specific green arrow clearly resembles BAtman. The death of rich parents, billionaire playboy, the relationship with lois, the "no powers with stealth" superhero, the previous relationship with lex, and even the music sounds very batman-ish.

Excatly .

[M.O.Steel]

man, some of you just pick apart a great episode way too much, why don't you just enjoy some obvious cool superhero action before our eyes? GA was awesome, Clark was awesome, the whole episode rocked!

I'm not sure if your comment was directed towards me, but i thought that was one of the best smallville episodes period. I always did, and deep down inside, will always want batman/wayne, but sicne we aren't ever going to get that, i'm more than happy that they are making an effort to do something similar.

[Batman]

I'm not sure if your comment was directed towards me, but i thought that was one of the best smallville episodes period. I always did, and deep down inside, will always want batman/wayne, but sicne we aren't ever going to get that, i'm more than happy that they are making an effort to do something similar.

Agreed.

[Brainiac 8]

There is absolutely no denying that this specific green arrow clearly resembles BAtman. The death of rich parents, billionaire playboy, the relationship with lois, the "no powers with stealth" superhero, the previous relationship with lex, and even the music sounds very batman-ish.


Green Arrow also dealt with the death of rich parents, was a billionaire playboy, had a relationshipe with Lois at one point, also has no powers but trick arrows and stealth, ect ect.

You have to take a look at Golden Age Green Arrow, which is probably where they got much of their idea for this interpretation of Green Arrow. At least they are not putting in an Arrow Cave and Arrow-mobile, which Green Arrow in the comics had at one point.

Sheesh... ;)

[tonytr1687]

I kno Clark is supposed to be a boyscout but was anyone else annoyed at how, even after Arrow tells him that Lionel bought the jewel off the black market, he wants the stolen artifact given back to Lionel? I mean c'mon...theres boyscout and then theres idiot. Sometimes the end does justify the means, and hopefully Ollie will teach Clark that.

Oh and I'm not surprised by the ritual Lana-hating. I for one cheered during the scene where Lana went hard-ass on that nerdy little push-over. Most likely it was just an act. Highly doubt she's going evil. I mean, dont yall remember her line about trying to protect Lex from himself. That means she's trying to keep him from being evil...so she cant possibly turn that way herself.

[Arach Knight]

I wasn't annoyed by Clark's initial reactions. During his first meeting, he had little reason to believe Ollie, when Ollie told him these things

1)Ollie offered no empirical evidence, only his word
2)Ollie was leading a double life
3)He broke into a building

That was three strikes right there. Though obviously, by the end of the show, Clark had changed his mind, upon reviewing the subject.

[Super_Child]

Whats with the Elfman/Batman like tunes coming on when Ollie shows up as Arrow?

[AgentPat]

Whats with the Elfman/Batman like tunes coming on when Ollie shows up as Arrow?Wasn't it only at the beginning? It's a nice homage, which they use sparingly - like they do the Williams' theme when Clark is having iconic Superman moments. They used it in Vengeance too.

[Kaboom]

i want to hear the superman march more...it gives me shivers everytime...

[Serene]

I'm wearing Hulk's hat again this week. My ridiculously long review is now up at The Kingdom. ;)

http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php?categoryid=42&p408_articleid=44

(ignore the typo errors.. late night editing, ya know?)

[AgentPat]

REMINDER:

CW is rebroadcasting ARROW tonight, Sunday 10/22/06, at 7pm ET.

The time slot was previously occupied by now the now canceled show, Runaway.




:)

[blksuperman2]

I'm wearing Hulk's hat again this week. My ridiculously long review is now up at The Kingdom. ;)

http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php?categoryid=42&p408_articleid=44

(ignore the typo errors.. late night editing, ya know?)

Nice review 'Rene. I never really noticed the trend of SV drowning Lois. Interesting take. I too felt that it was a well acted episode. I just can't agree with Lana. There was just something off with all of her scenes. I know the writers want her to seem ambiguous but...............I don't know.

[Spider-Gamer]

I'm wearing Hulk's hat again this week. My ridiculously long review is now up at The Kingdom. ;)

http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php?categoryid=42&p408_articleid=44

(ignore the typo errors.. late night editing, ya know?)
Great review, but watch out! You might take away Hulk's review duties. :cwink:

[Serene]

Nice review 'Rene. I never really noticed the trend of SV drowning Lois. Interesting take. I too felt that it was a well acted episode. I just can't agree with Lana. There was just something off with all of her scenes. I know the writers want her to seem ambiguous but...............I don't know.

Thanks, blksupes. Poor Erica! LOL.. I would hate to do those scenes too, I also have water/drowning issues, so it was really obvious to me.
And that's okay about seeing the Lana issue differently. That's actually my point. :D

Great review, but watch out! You might take away Hulk's review duties.

Thanks. And, naaah, Hulk's much more the DC expert than I am.. and far less.. uh, verbose. I think his job is perfectly safe. ;)

[Jack O Lantern]

The thing I find hard to swallow about Lana in this show was that she basically outsmarted a guy who was assigned to work on uncovering Alien Technogly, the guy has to be a genious but Lana, who's greatest achieve in life thus far is putting the Beenery out of business, easily outsmarts him.

[Kaboom]

i think Erica should get wet more often than she is now

[Jack O Lantern]

What do you mean by wet?

[Kaboom]

like pools, lakes, tubs of ice cold water.................

[blksuperman2]

The thing I find hard to swallow about Lana in this show was that she basically outsmarted a guy who was assigned to work on uncovering Alien Technogly, the guy has to be a genious but Lana, who's greatest achieve in life thus far is putting the Beenery out of business, easily outsmarts him.

Well I wouldn't say she outsmarted him. There's a big difference from wits and intellect. She threatened the man's livelihood. Obvious he believed that the girlfriend of one of the richest and most power men in the world could actually cause harm to his family.

[Kaboom]

gotta love the MBi

[Jack O Lantern]

Well I wouldn't say she outsmarted him. There's a big difference from wits and intellect. She threatened the man's livelihood. Obvious he believed that the girlfriend of one of the richest and most power men in the world could actually cause harm to his family.

A guy like that would never find himself in that stituation witha girl like Lana, if it had been with Lex or Lionel I could buy it but we're not even told how she found this stuff out she just knows.

[avidreader]

I'm wearing Hulk's hat again this week. My ridiculously long review is now up at The Kingdom. ;)

http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php?categoryid=42&p408_articleid=44

(ignore the typo errors.. late night editing, ya know?)

Serene I'm blown away by how fantastic that was. Did you enjoy doing it?

I picked up the colors of the outfits, and especially Lana's white Jacket and black shirt. Does that mean she's good on the outside, but there's something dark brewing underneath?

Hmm.....

[Cmill216]

A guy like that would never find himself in that stituation witha girl like Lana, if it had been with Lex or Lionel I could buy it but we're not even told how she found this stuff out she just knows.

Ah ha! This goes back to my theory that she wasn't playing a part that Lex wrote out for her. Why would he say the whole thing about blackmail not being one of her talents or whatever if he had given her the information himself?

[avidreader]

A guy like that would never find himself in that stituation witha girl like Lana, if it had been with Lex or Lionel I could buy it but we're not even told how she found this stuff out she just knows.

How about a little trip to the HR Department. I'm sure she could find it out there. If they had to stop the flow of the episode to show the characters finding out these details we would be in Snoraville. Use your imagination to fill in the gaps.

[blksuperman2]

A guy like that would never find himself in that stituation witha girl like Lana, if it had been with Lex or Lionel I could buy it but we're not even told how she found this stuff out she just knows.

Lana has been shown to be very resourceful. I mean the girl figured out that a spaceship landed during the first meteor shower. The only other person to find that information was Virgil Swann. And he was some rich reclusive meterologist.

[Serene]

Serene I'm blown away by how fantastic that was. Did you enjoy doing it?

I picked up the colors of the outfits, and especially Lana's white Jacket and black shirt. Does that mean she's good on the outside, but there's something dark brewing underneath?

Hmm.....

Thanks bud! It means a lot. :)

I'm glad someone else noticed the color thing too.. I was hoping I wasn't being a crazyfan. :p

And I believe that Lana's jacket was white.. but her shirt was black and white... so still mixed signals. I would have preferred she wore a black jacket and a white shirt, but that would have been too obvious..better they keep it ambiguous for those of us that notice these things. ;)

[avidreader]

Thanks bud! It means a lot. :)

Your welcome.

I'm glad someone else noticed the color thing too.. I was hoping I wasn't being a crazyfan. :p

I actually mentioned it in my little review of this episode upthread.

And I believe that Lana's jacket was white.. but her shirt was black and white... so still mixed signals. I would have preferred she wore a black jacket and a white shirt, but that would have been too obvious..better they keep it ambiguous for those of us that notice these things. ;)

Black and white shirt, so its a bit murky.

Tabby from Amonline said that since huge spoilers werent being made available any more that they were going to start dropping in little hints like that within the episodes themselves.

[M.O.Steel]

Green Arrow also dealt with the death of rich parents, was a billionaire playboy, had a relationshipe with Lois at one point, also has no powers but trick arrows and stealth, ect ect.

You have to take a look at Golden Age Green Arrow, which is probably where they got much of their idea for this interpretation of Green Arrow. At least they are not putting in an Arrow Cave and Arrow-mobile, which Green Arrow in the comics had at one point.

Sheesh... ;)

oh yeah i know that. But come on, lets be honest, GA isn't exactly the first name that pops into your head when you think of the justice league. He's clearly more batman than he is the GA, and this is easier to do because of their similar background. It's not like they are completely taking away his GA qualities (aka robin hood stealing from the rich and giving to the poor mentality). It's also pretty obvious with his interactions with clark that ollie doesn't and won't take crap from him, no matter how much more powerful he is, similar to batman. We all know GA would never talk to Supes like that.

[Serene]

I actually mentioned it in my little review of this episode upthread.

I must have missed that.. I'll have to go find it. I haven't been keeping up with things in here as much as I normally do, I've been running around like crazy lately.
I'm sure I misssed several good posts.
*backtracking*

[Jack O Lantern]

How about a little trip to the HR Department. I'm sure she could find it out there. If they had to stop the flow of the episode to show the characters finding out these details we would be in Snoraville. Use your imagination to fill in the gaps.

They established way back in Season 1 that any guy working on these kind of projects for Lex is kept in secrecy. Any information on this guy would have been hard to find.

Plus he wouldn't have revealed himself so easily in front of Lana to begin with.

[Kaboom]

I must have missed that.. I'll have to go find it. I haven't been keeping up with things in here as much as I normally do, I've been running around like crazy lately.
I'm sure I misssed several good posts.
*backtracking*

thats ok yu can find them all by clicking my name and then "find recent posts"

;)

[Arach Knight]

I'm wearing Hulk's hat again this week. My ridiculously long review is now up at The Kingdom. ;)

http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php?categoryid=42&p408_articleid=44

" Lois being so up close and personal and still not recognizing him only minutes after being with him at the party requires a healthy dose of the usual suspension of disbelief we all need to be superhero fans, but the voice change is at least an attempt to rationalize it."

That part of your review struck a chord with me. But I instantly thought to myself "well it's Lois Lane." I once saw a cover to an old Superman book, over at superdickery.com It showed Superman telling Lana and Lois how he refused to date a woman, too stupid to realize that glasses were the only real thing seperating his identity as Clark and Superman. It's just a Lois Lane thing I suppose. For all of her investigative genius, she seems to regularly miss the obvious.

[M.O.Steel]

does anyone have the sneak preview of next week's epsiode? i'm trying to find on youtube with no luck.

[Serene]

does anyone have the sneak preview of next week's epsiode? i'm trying to find on youtube with no luck.
A summary and a link to the Director's cut is on the CW site here:
http://cwtv.com/shows/smallville/episodes/606

[Arach Knight]

I'm sure you can catch it, by watching Smallville tonight. They do repeat episodes now on Sunday's, just like they used to, back when they had Big Sunday on the WB. It replaced Runaways, so now, you have the best chance of catching the show or parts you missed.

[Squatlow]

I picked up the colors of the outfits, and especially Lana's white Jacket and black shirt. Does that mean she's good on the outside, but there's something dark brewing underneath?
Hmm.....

I may have inadvertantly stumbled on the truth.

Lana is actually dead. Much like Dorothy's house falling on the witch in the Wizard of Oz, the black ship actually fell on Lana at the end of season 4. Current "Lana" is a Brainiac construct. Ultimately Chloe (realizing her real destiny) will change her name to Lana Lang and settle in Smallville as the 'Lana' we all know and love. Thus the 'Chlana' becomes the one who knows Clark is Superman and occasionally comes to his aid in later life....

You know, that sounds so familiar...


Jeepers, da crazy things ya think of between flights at O'Hare airport.
:woot: :woot:

[Serene]

Jeepers, da crazy things ya think of between flights at O'Hare airport.
:woot: :woot:

You're at O'Hare? Yo! You're in my neck of the woods.
Kind of a cold, blah day here in Chicagoland though.

[M.O.Steel]

A summary and a link to the Director's cut is on the CW site here:
http://cwtv.com/shows/smallville/episodes/606

thanks a lot...looks intense, can't wait

[avidreader]

I may have inadvertantly stumbled on the truth.

Lana is actually dead. Much like Dorothy's house falling on the witch in the Wizard of Oz, the black ship actually fell on Lana at the end of season 4. Current "Lana" is a Brainiac construct. Ultimately Chloe (realizing her real destiny) will change her name to Lana Lang and settle in Smallville as the 'Lana' we all know and love. Thus the 'Chlana' becomes the one who knows Clark is Superman and occasionally comes to his aid in later life....

You know, that sounds so familiar...


Jeepers, da crazy things ya think of between flights at O'Hare airport.


I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. Could you fill me in on this theory of yours? :cwink:

Kind of a cold, blah day here in Chicagoland though.

Warm and sunny here in San Diego County. :yay:

They established way back in Season 1 that any guy working on these kind of projects for Lex is kept in secrecy. Any information on this guy would have been hard to find.


The only character that was working on the side was Dr. Hamilton and that's because he was a rogue and Lex wanted to study the meteor rocks without his father's knowledge.

There are no other characters that come to my mind that werent working for Luthorcorp. Especially after Lex assumed control of the company in Season 4.

thats ok yu can find them all by clicking my name and then "find recent posts"

;)

I tried, but I couldnt find anything. :cwink:

That part of your review struck a chord with me. But I instantly thought to myself "well it's Lois Lane." I once saw a cover to an old Superman book, over at superdickery.com It showed Superman telling Lana and Lois how he refused to date a woman, too stupid to realize that glasses were the only real thing seperating his identity as Clark and Superman. It's just a Lois Lane thing I suppose. For all of her investigative genius, she seems to regularly miss the obvious.

That was something that the Twoppers were saying that was annoying the crap out of me. They were implying that Lois was stupid if she couldnt tell that Green Arrow and Ollie were the same person.

HELLO - Clark Kent/Superman. :whatever: :dry:

[Kaboom]

wait a second...clark kent is Superman?

[triplet]

wait a second...clark kent is Superman?

:D

:up:

[The Caped Knight]

wait a second...clark kent is Superman?


Boy your a real wise guy .... :whatever: NOT !!!!! :o

[Kaboom]

^^^lol

[Spider-Fan83]

That was something that the Twoppers were saying that was annoying the crap out of me. They were implying that Lois was stupid if she couldnt tell that Green Arrow and Ollie were the same person.

HELLO - Clark Kent/Superman. :whatever: :dry:

at least GA was wearing sunglasses, and a hood lol
not just glasses

[Serene]

wait a second...clark kent is Superman?
No, actually Clark Kent is BATMAN. :batman:

That's the real reason we'll never see him on SV. It's all about the journey, ya know.. not the destination. Once he dons the ears, it's ALL over. :D

[The Caped Knight]

No, actually Clark Kent is BATMAN. :batman:

That's the real reason we'll never see him on SV. It's all about the journey, ya know.. not the destination. Once he dons the ears, it's ALL over. :D

No way in hell is he THE BAT. So don't even go there .

[The Caped Knight]

Here check out a young Oliver in his prime in the comics, he kinda looks like Justin .

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n168/16oz_soda/LotDCU-007-07.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n168/16oz_soda/LotDCU-007-08.jpg

see this is Oliver, he does shut up nor does he pay attention . And he's a smart ass .

[Mike_D202]

On a side note: shouldnt there be a bandage or at least a scar on lana's had from that pipe going throug her hand in "zod"??

[Serene]

Has it already been noted that Lois wore the same dress to the cocktail party that Erica wore to the CW launch party?

Good thing they wear the same size. ;)

[avidreader]

No way in hell is he THE BAT. So don't even go thier .

Hey Kal, I know your an over zealous fanboy and I can deal with that, but I think its time one of us oldies taught you the difference between

there
their and
they're

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Their Definition

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contraction of they are.


It would be remiss of me not to point this out to you.

Just a message from your friendly neghbourhood Spider-Man. :spidey:

[Brainiac 8]

Paging Blk and his sig about that subject.:oldrazz:

[The Caped Knight]

Hey Kal, I know your an over zealous fanboy and I can deal with that, but I think its time one of us oldies taught you the difference between

there
their and
they're

There - Definition



Their Definition



They're Definition



It would be remiss of me not to point this out to you.

Just a message from your friendly neghbourhood spiderman. :spidey:

ha, ha, ha very well played avidreader [Ah, touché.] :woot:

[Jack O Lantern]

Hey Kal, I know your an over zealous fanboy and I can deal with that, but I think its time one of us oldies taught you the difference between

there
their and
they're

There - Definition



Their Definition



They're Definition



It would be remiss of me not to point this out to you.

Just a message from your friendly neghbourhood spiderman. :spidey:

You do know that this was proably the wrong post to spell Spider-Man wrong.

[Arach Knight]

comic book Ollie, with no beard, always looks strange to me. Ever since I was a young kid, Oliver Queen has had a beard. We're talking back when they had Justice League Task Force on the Sega Genesis.

[triplet]

Here's my review:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/arrowreview.htm

[Squatlow]

You're at O'Hare? Yo! You're in my neck of the woods.
Kind of a cold, blah day here in Chicagoland though.

Sorry it took so long to answer. I was at ORD, but am now in the hotel at my home-away-from-home, Brussels. Was windy and partly to mostly cloudy at take-off time, but was an okay flight. Movie was "Akeelah & the Bee" followed by M. Night's "Signs". Thought I'd be bored, but Akeelah was actually pretty good. 'Signs' (which I've seen twice before) in my opinion, just gets worse the more you see it. I wasn't a fan of the movie to begin with, but eh, I dunno, just seem to have difficulty with MNS's stuff after "Sixth Sense" which like most everyone else, I thought was a great suspense piece. But (again, just my opinion) he's stumbled greatly since then. Oh hell, I've been up over 24 hours and am probably rambling. One thing for sure, I'm waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off topic, so off to bed for a while.

TTFN...

[Webber]

Sorry I can't read through all 33 pages but at first I thought the rich guy at the start was meant to be Arnold Wesker, but his name was Westcot.

[The Caped Knight]

You do know that this was proably the wrong post to spell Spider-Man wrong.

Word [I was kind to her in not mentioning this in my post, but since you mentioned it. ]

Avidreader like MJD said it's SPIDER-MAN not spiderman . :woot:

[COMPO]

who gives a ****.

[Cmill216]

Here's my review:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/arrowreview.htm

Good stuff as usual. :up:

I felt the same way about the arrow-to-bullet shot: clearly ridiculous, and yet it looked so good you didn't care. :oldrazz:

[The Caped Knight]

Here's my review:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/arrowreview.htm

Nice .

[Hush]

This was a simply amazing episode. I enjoyed it so much.

[avidreader]

Word [I was kind to her in not mentioning this in my post, but since you mentioned it. ]

Avidreader like MJD said it's SPIDER-MAN not spiderman . :woot:

Well I'm glad we can help each other out. :cwink:

[The Caped Knight]

Well I'm glad we can help each other out. :cwink:

Agreed :woot: friends . :cool:

[triplet]

Good stuff as usual. :up:

Thanks... :blush:

I felt the same way about the arrow-to-bullet shot: clearly ridiculous, and yet it looked so good you didn't care. :oldrazz:

Yep.

:up:

So cool... I loved that but so improbable no matter how good an archer you are. It would never happen, but I don't care.

Nice .

Thanks. :D

[The Caped Knight]

Hey Serene I liked your review @ The Kingdom very insightful . :D

http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php?categoryid=42&p408_articleid=44

[blksuperman2]

Paging Blk and his sig about that subject.:oldrazz:

LOL. Maybe I shouldn't have changed it............It didn't seem to help. Noone seemed to care that it was upsetting me.:csad:

[Arach Knight]

You have good artwork blksuperman. I especially like the fact that you drew out Superman to be Reeves, and Routh, while you had welling as Superboy. And it's funny, because a friend was asking me last night, if they were going to make welling into Superman this season. And I told him that I was pretty sure they wouldn't, because the producers have a no cape/no tights policy. He said "I wouldn't care if they did the whole Superboy thing and gave him a black shirt with the S, but they should make it happen." I guess he wasn't alone in that thinking.

[blksuperman2]

You have good artwork blksuperman. I especially like the fact that you drew out Superman to be Reeves, and Routh, while you had welling as Superboy. And it's funny, because a friend was asking me last night, if they were going to make welling into Superman this season. And I told him that I was pretty sure they wouldn't, because the producers have a no cape/no tights policy. He said "I wouldn't care if they did the whole Superboy thing and gave him a black shirt with the S, but they should make it happen." I guess he wasn't alone in that thinking.

Thanks. I know that Welling will become Superman, but until he's allowed to :supes: he's basically Superboy in my eyes. As unpopular as that may be here.....................<Goes into hiding>

[Kaboom]

i dont think its unpopular to think hes superboy....just sans suit

[The Caped Knight]

Thanks. I know that Welling will become Superman, but until he's allowed to :supes: he's basically Superboy in my eyes. As unpopular as that may be here.....................<Goes into hiding>

Same way I look @ the issue .

[Arach Knight]

You would think that with Superman Return's mild success, that they would be a little bit less afraid of having him don some tights or at least some kind of take on the costume, that makes him actually Superman/Superboy. They've already gone through all of his powers. X-ray/Heat/Telescopic vision. Super speed, flight. Super breath, super hearing. It's all there. He's in Metropolis. We've seen Perry White. Jimmy and Lois are there. Lex is finally evil completly and Pa Kent is deceased. The formula is complete. Anything from here on out is just teasing the fanbase. They are bringing in a pseudo Justice League this season for crying out loud. And it's obviously working...people are tuning in. Just give folks the man of steel on T.V. It worked for George Reeves, it worked for Dean Kain. Give Welling his due by making him the true heir to the television legacy. It would be odd for him to be the only Superman, to have never worn the suit.

[COMPO]

he'll wear it on the last episode.

[Cmill216]

Lex is finally evil completly

You're jumping the gun on that one.

[giggs11uk]

yea lex isnt goin to be completly evil untill he kills lionel.

i can c it now lex with a gun pointed at clark demanding to kno his secret and just as he shots the bullet lionel dives infront of him takin the bullet and savin clark but killin himself

o and by the way 62 yards field goal thats how the Bucs are gonna come back this year

[Venomfan]

did the part where green arrow shot that guy at the end bug anybody else. the guy got hit by an arrow and flew like 20 feet backward part of a wall what the heck

[Serene]

Hey Serene I liked your review @ The Kingdom very insightful . :D

http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php?categoryid=42&p408_articleid=44

Thanks, KE8.
You're only saying that 'cause it's my birthday, right? Because we're not allowed to agree on SV things, remember? It's a rule. ;)


Triplet - Awesome reviews as always. Glad we finally got to see them. :up:

[Tempest19]

Wasn't the arrow that did that- it was the impact of the arrow.

[Arach Knight]

You're jumping the gun on that one.

Not really. Or was I the only one that saw Cyborg from season 5? Lex lied to Clark, double crossed him, and tried to have Vic's mind erased, a la Robocop 2, via lobotomy. That's not evil enough? What do you call it? Mean spirited like the Grinch? Let's also not forget what he did to Aquaman. Lex has always been evil. He just initially had friends that pitied/sympathized with him. That caused him some difficulty in making judgement calls that probably otherwise, would have been as self motivated, selfish and cruel, as most of his choices are. Season 3 was probabl the time when Lex had the most opportunity to be neutral or good...but after that, it was all a slide into evil town. Round trip torture of Aquaman, sending his father to prison and trying to do illegal weapons testing as well as human experimentation. That guy is as wrong as two left feet. But I like it. I prefer my Lex's to be a little more dastardly...and bastardly.

did the part where green arrow shot that guy at the end bug anybody else. the guy got hit by an arrow and flew like 20 feet backward part of a wall what the heck

The force of an arrow is pretty impressive. I don't know if it could carry a person twenty feet, plus pierce a brick/stone wall, but it could easily do either, independently. Pulling back a bow and knocking an arrow, requires so much upper body strength that most people are easily disheartened with their first encounter with the weapon.

[Venomfan]

The force of an arrow is pretty impressive. I don't know if it could carry a person twenty feet, plus pierce a brick/stone wall, but it could easily do either, independently. Pulling back a bow and knocking an arrow, requires so much upper body strength that most people are easily disheartened with their first encounter with the weapon.
yes i know i am an archer, but there is no way that can happen. if you shoot even a rabbit it doesnt fly like that

[Spider-Gamer]

yes i know i am an archer, but there is no way that can happen. if you shoot even a rabbit it doesnt fly like that
Poor rabbit. :oldrazz:

[user123456789]

On a side note: shouldnt there be a bandage or at least a scar on lana's had from that pipe going throug her hand in "zod"??
lol

[Brainiac 8]

Awsome reviews Trip and Serene.:woot:

[Serene]

Awsome reviews Trip and Serene.:woot:
Thanks B8. :)
I was trying to find the link to that site that you post reviews at, but I can't find it. Can you repost? Did you do Arrow yet?

[Brainiac 8]

Thanks B8. :)
I was trying to find the link to that site that you post reviews at, but I can't find it. Can you repost? Did you do Arrow yet?


I submitted it to the site manager, but I'm just waiting for her to post it. As soon as it's up I'll link it.

If you didn't get to read Wither yet, here's the link:

http://tvmegasite.net/prime/shows/smallville/smalltalk/wither.shtml

[Serene]

I submitted it to the site manager, but I'm just waiting for her to post it. As soon as it's up I'll link it.

If you didn't get to read Wither yet, here's the link:

http://tvmegasite.net/prime/shows/smallville/smalltalk/wither.shtml

Thanks, and nice job. :)
I like that you mentioned what a good job Amber McDonald did as Gloria. The character may have been a bit thorny *cough*, but she did a fine job with what she had.

Nicely done.

[Brainiac 8]

Thanks, and nice job. :)
I like that you mentioned what a good job Amber McDonald did as Gloria. The character may have been a bit thorny *cough*, but she did a fine job with what she had.

Nicely done.

Thanks Serene, I welcome all feedback, as I'm sure all of us do.:woot:

To be honest, she wasn't the best villian they could have used, but the actress salvaged a part that could have been much worse.:word: :up:

Plus she was quite easy on the eyes.:cwink:

I think it's nice they are using some of the actors from Aquaman, giving them some kudos since the other show never took off.

[Jack O Lantern]

The only character that was working on the side was Dr. Hamilton and that's because he was a rogue and Lex wanted to study the meteor rocks without his father's knowledge.


double post

[Jack O Lantern]

The only character that was working on the side was Dr. Hamilton and that's because he was a rogue and Lex wanted to study the meteor rocks without his father's knowledge.


I'm pretty sure he offered the woman that brought Adam back to life the same deal, he did the same with Emily's dad, he said he would "protct her" he also had the guy from Summerhault working with him in that way as well. In Season 4 he had the doctor working with him on the growth serum that he only talked about without his evil side.

They established it in Season 1 so they either forgot it or ignored it

[thebigtree95]

TV QB
A water cooler look at SMALLVILLE

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/television/smallville/002087464.cfm

[Bruce_Wayne29]

yea lex isnt goin to be completly evil untill he kills lionel.

i can c it now lex with a gun pointed at clark demanding to kno his secret and just as he shots the bullet lionel dives infront of him takin the bullet and savin clark but killin himself



I can certainly picture that happen and it would be a great way to enhance Lex's hate for Clark and wanting to erase that friendship and his stay in Smallville at any cost.

[bad3appels]

i think that lex will be evil when he is gonna loose lana..but that is just me talking.

[avidreader]

OMG! I've just been reading Omar's recap and realised, due to the CW signal fading or some other technical jargon, that I missed the first five minutes of this episode. :wow:

Damn!

[Cmill216]

^ What?!

[avidreader]

^ What?!

Yeah for me it opened with Lois talking to that old guy about his congressional indictment.

[Cmill216]

Yeah for me it opened with Lois talking to that old guy about his congressional indictment.

Oh. Well, you didn't miss...anything. At all. Like...nothing. At all.

[avidreader]

Oh. Well, you didn't miss...anything. At all. Like...nothing. At all.

According to the review I just read there was conversation between Martha and Lionel, and Lionel giving Martha the necklace.

There was also a conversation between Ollie and Lois and Ollie introducing Lois.

[Brainiac 8]

What you missed was this:

Martha: but Lionel, you killed my husband, why give me jewlrey now?

Lionel: Because I can, and because it was collecting dust in Luthorcorps vault.

Martha: Gee thanks! *Swoon*


Next scene:

Ollie: Lois don't make a fool of yourself by saying stupid things. Let me introduce you to someone you will obviously insult.:wow: :woot: :cwink: :oldrazz:

[blksuperman2]

What you missed was this:

Martha: but Lionel, you killed my husband, why give me jewlrey now?

Lionel: Because I can, and because it was collecting dust in Luthorcorps vault.

Martha: Gee thanks! *Swoon*


Next scene:

Ollie: Lois don't make a fool of yourself by saying stupid things. Let me introduce you to someone you will obviously insult.:wow: :woot: :cwink: :oldrazz:

LOL. Actually that's what should have happened.

[Cmill216]

According to the review I just read there was conversation between Martha and Lionel, and Lionel giving Martha the necklace.

There was also a conversation between Ollie and Lois and Ollie introducing Lois.

Oh snap. Yeah, that's right. But still, not much. :cwink:

[avidreader]

Its funny, after reading through some comments about Clark not using his x-ray vision to discover the Arrow's identity, it suddenly occurred to me that Clark didnt need to discover his identity at that point in time.

There was no reason for him to assume that the Green Arrow was anybody other than the Green Arrow and that it was the Green Arrow that needed stopping not his alter identity.

It was only after he recognised the Coat of Arms that it clicked with him that Green Arrow was a mask for his real identity, Oliver Queen.

I also found it interesting that Lois's crusade is about unmasking the Green Arrow. What will happen if and when she finds out? Does that set her story up for the future in regards to Superman?

When Superman arrives on the scene in the future, in no incarnation that I can think of, does Lois ever suspect that Superman has a secret identity. Her suspcions arise as a consequence of Clark Kent's behavior.

[Arach Knight]

Clark's X-Ray vision, no longer seems to provide chromatic information. He can't do things like look through a girls skirt. His X-Ray vision seems to be quite literal. So even if he did look at Ollie with X-ray vision, all he would see, is his bone structure.

[Superfreak]

Its funny, after reading through some comments about Clark not using his x-ray vision to discover the Arrow's identity, it suddenly occurred to me that Clark didnt need to discover his identity at that point in time.

There was no reason for him to assume that the Green Arrow was anybody other than the Green Arrow and that it was the Green Arrow that needed stopping not his alter identity.

It was only after he recognised the Coat of Arms that it clicked with him that Green Arrow was a mask for his real identity, Oliver Queen.

I also found it interesting that Lois's crusade is about unmasking the Green Arrow. What will happen if and when she finds out? Does that set her story up for the future in regards to Superman?

When Superman arrives on the scene in the future, in no incarnation that I can think of, does Lois ever suspect that Superman has a secret identity. Her suspcions arise as a consequence of Clark Kent's behavior.

justify it however you want, it was poor writing. It was done merely to add 2 minutes to the episode, 2 minutes which could have been used to do something far more interesting.

[Spider-Gamer]

justify it however you want, it was poor writing. It was done merely to add 2 minutes to the episode, 2 minutes which could have been used to do something far more interesting.
Do you have any suggestions for what could have been far more interesting to do with the two minutes then? :huh:

[Arach Knight]

I think it has already been stated that clark can't see through levels at the moment. His X-Ray vision is quite literally X-Ray at the moment. It will be a while before he can look through an elevator and see who is in it, or look through skirts and see panties. Right now, if he looks through things, he just sees skeletons and muscle mass, like a real X-ray. So how exactly, was he going to look through a mask, to see the face behind it? He'd just see a skull. And if you don't believe me, look at

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Cyborg2.gif

[triplet]

I think it has already been stated that clark can't see through levels at the moment. His X-Ray vision is quite literally X-Ray at the moment. It will be a while before he can look through an elevator and see who is in it, or look through skirts and see panties. Right now, if he looks through things, he just sees skeletons and muscle mass, like a real X-ray. So how exactly, was he going to look through a mask, to see the face behind it? He'd just see a skull. And if you don't believe me, look at

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Cyborg2.gif

I don't think the fact that they've chosen to not show Clark seeing through things without going into x-ray vision means that he's lost the ability...

He was shown to be able to see through a wall and clothes before back in season one, I don't think anything has explicitely stated that he has lost that ability since.

[greenlantern248]

This was a review of the episode Red from tv.com:

"At the Talon, Clark shows up late and suggest to Pete, Lana and Chloe that they blow off studying the Red Scare (hee!) for American History and go to a bar instead. Lana and Chloe move away to get coffee (decaf for Clark) and Clark informs Pete that Chloe has a birthmark on her cheek. Her other cheek. Pete tells Clark he'll be happy to hit the underage drinking scene at the weekend, but right now they all need to study. Bored now, Clark wanders out."

So he can adjust his x-ray strength, but everytime he uses it and we see it it's always the x-ray style.

[Arach Knight]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Smallville_104_xray.jpg

That is a photo from him using his x-ray vision in season 1. So he can see color, but he is still seeing through the surface of their body. But clearly, Green Lanter above me, listed a contradiction to that circumstance. So I am willing to accept that he can adjust the intensity.

[greenlantern248]

forgot about that one, but the point I was trying to make is that his x-ray vision isn't just the "x-ray" style. So in sense if he wanted to he could have used his x-ray vision to see who the Green Arrow really was.