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Angeloz
05-15-2008, 12:19 PM
Well I'd want to see Batman and Indy. Batman first if I had to choose one. That said I'd need to see some clips first. Because I didn't go see "Batman & Robin" as it looked rubbish (saw it later on video and confirmed it). That said I don't claim to be an average female.

Angeloz

Franklin Richards
05-15-2008, 12:21 PM
By you being on this board you are automatically the exception, Angeloz.


Proving the rule of course. :D


:doom: :doom: :doom:

Excel
05-15-2008, 01:42 PM
IM has a legitimate chance to make 300 million.

True, though we need to wait and see how hard a hit - if nay- it takes from narnia and indy.

Well I also expected SR to do much better than it did until i saw more of it or i should say less of it in the trailers.

Ugh I know! I rewatch the trailers and have no idea why I thought itd so well :csad:

I thought these days 100M 3 day opening was the studio aim for these busters, it's the holy land.

It is, but for some reason w.b. dont care. Harry Potter woulda done it last July for them they still moved it up to Wednesday.


Wasn't that a 140M opening weekend ?


135. TDK has a chance due to how big its Friday will be.

SFII
05-15-2008, 02:02 PM
Indiana Jones might be the only movie capable of beating out Iron Man.

but still other movies such as Batman: The Dark Knight, The Hulk, and Narnia could do very well too.
or they could become Speed Racer-esque.

ultimatefan
05-15-2008, 02:52 PM
Their ain't no such thing as a certainty these days IMO



I read the other ones and it still seems niche to me but this one made me laugh. :D





Well I also expected SR to do much better than it did until i saw more of it or i should say less of it in the trailers.





I thought these days 100M 3 day opening was the studio aim for these busters, it's the holy land.



Wasn't that a 140M opening weekend ?



I don't see that Ultimate, in here is a pretty civil and fun debate right now i'd say. how you doing ? :yay:



:up:

It's possible, i guess it's gonna depend on how it connects with the younger generation.

Iīm cool - working like a slave, though -, how you doing? I just donīt feel much into the franchise vs. franchise thing, maybe. Just like in 2005, Iīm not trying to overblow my expectations too high for TDK numbers to not set myself for disappointment, even though I DO think it will make considerably more than BB. As for TIH, this is an attempt to rebuild the franchise, not unlike BB, in many ways, so as long as itīs good and it revives it well enough to get more sequels, Iīm cool.

CaptainStacy
05-15-2008, 03:47 PM
Don't count out Indy and his draw with females of every age.

"Hey honey. What do you want to go see tonight? Batman, Ironman, or Indiana Jones?"


"Let's go see Indiana Jones."

Her thought bubble : "Harrison Ford."


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Is Ford still considered a "hunk" (or whatever term ladies are using these days) though, as compared to Bale, Ledger, or Downey?

TLH
05-15-2008, 04:40 PM
$3.0 million for Iron Man on Wednesday bring its domestic total to $188 million. It should easily cross $190 million with Thursday's take.

Speed Racer only took in 800k on Wednesday, nearly half of What Happens in Vegas took in. :hehe:

TheVileOne
05-15-2008, 04:59 PM
Iron Man is going to crush old Indy this summer as well. Indy will not do anywhere near as well as Iron Man.

FlawlessVictory
05-15-2008, 05:07 PM
Iron Man is going to crush old Indy this summer as well. Indy will not do anywhere near as well as Iron Man.

:huh: How many different ways can you possibly say that Iron Man will win out the summer. I think we get the picture. You've made it clear, God himself could not save Indy or TDK against IM.

kakashi
05-15-2008, 05:08 PM
Iron Man is going to crush old Indy this summer as well. Indy will not do anywhere near as well as Iron Man.


As much as i loved the Iron man movie, i don't think that will happen.

Domestic...perhaps.But i'm betting that Indy4 will do big bussiness overseas...perhaps even more than Iron man.

Kargo Warrior
05-15-2008, 05:12 PM
Iron Man is going to crush old Indy this summer as well. Indy will not do anywhere near as well as Iron Man.

The tracking for Indy is 165-170 for 5 days...the bold part is not even funny.

I loved Iron Man but Indy will make more in 10 days than IM for it's whole run.

kakashi
05-15-2008, 05:18 PM
The tracking for Indy is 165-170 for 5 days...the bold part is not even funny.

I loved Iron Man but Indy will make more in 10 days than IM for it's whole run.

I wouldn't say that.I doubt that Indy will make a Spider-man numbers. However, i do think that it will beat Iron man...not by much though.

Be a pretty close race this summer between Ironman-Indy and TDK.

Raiden
05-15-2008, 05:19 PM
The tracking for Indy is 165-170 for 5 days...the bold part is not even funny.

I loved Iron Man but Indy will make more in 10 days than IM for it's whole run.

Do you know that IM has made around 180 million in just 13 days?

Kargo Warrior
05-15-2008, 05:24 PM
Do you know that IM has made around 180 million in just 13 days?


If you read my post,you would've noticed that Indy could make as much as 170 in 5 days...with a second weekend Indy could do around 240...and IM is not getting more than 270,so even though i exagerated you get the point.

One thing i really hate in this world is when people throw numbers/info/statistics about stuff they either have no knowledge about and/or are biased(that is not meant for you Raiden) so much their minds are clouded.

The only way IM makes more than Indy is if a nuclear war starts before Indy opens.

Docker2.0
05-15-2008, 05:40 PM
I don't think Indy will do as great as people say it will. I honestly believe this year BO champ will be either IM or TDK, with IM beating Bats out. Indy may be 3rd or 4th. Harrison Ford isn't "hot" enough to make women come to theaters like he did 30 years ago. :whatever: Who goes to see a movie cuase a dude is hot? :huh: That's what porn is for! :o

Raiden
05-15-2008, 05:43 PM
If you read my post,you would've noticed that Indy could make as much as 170 in 5 days...with a second weekend Indy could do around 240...and IM is not getting more than 270,so even though i exagerated you get the point.

One thing i really hate in this world is when people throw numbers/info/statistics about stuff they either have no knowledge about and/or are biased(that is not meant for you Raiden) so much their minds are clouded.

The only way IM makes more than Indy is if a nuclear war starts before Indy opens.

How can you be so certain that IM will not gross more than 270 mil? IM has a less than 50% drop in 2nd week, and reviews and WOM have been stellar. It definitely has an opportunity to crack 300 million, or close to it.

TheVileOne
05-15-2008, 05:46 PM
Indiana Jones will not make that high. And Iron Man is going to surpass everything this summer and crush all in sight including Hancock and Batman.

This will be their punishment for waiting 20 years to do this movie.

DBZ2cool
05-15-2008, 05:48 PM
Loved this movie. 10/10.

It deserves every penny it is making.

kedrell
05-15-2008, 05:51 PM
If you read my post,you would've noticed that Indy could make as much as 170 in 5 days...with a second weekend Indy could do around 240...and IM is not getting more than 270,so even though i exagerated you get the point.

One thing i really hate in this world is when people throw numbers/info/statistics about stuff they either have no knowledge about and/or are biased(that is not meant for you Raiden) so much their minds are clouded.

The only way IM makes more than Indy is if a nuclear war starts before Indy opens.

IM is an absolute lock for 275M at this point. And it could easily go higher up to 300M.

IM is at 188M right now as of Wednesday's numbers. Thursday will certainly be around 3M or so giving it about 191M entering into the 3rd weekend. It dropped 48% on it's second weekend(2nd weekends are always the biggest drop) so it should drop much less this weekend. 25M 3rd WEnd is certain and 30M is possible. That would put it at 215-220M by the end of the weekend. Figure a realistic 45% loss for it's next M-Th which would give it 7 and a half million and we have Mem Day WEnd next which it should be around 227.5M entering it. The 4-day should give IM at least 20M putting it at or near 250M by the end of the weekend. For IM to stop at 270 it would mean that it's only going to gross 20M more at a time when it'll still be making 1-2M every weekday. There's no way that happens.

fallenAngel
05-15-2008, 06:30 PM
I don't think Indy will do as great as people say it will. I honestly believe this year BO champ will be either IM or TDK, with IM beating Bats out. Indy may be 3rd or 4th. Harrison Ford isn't "hot" enough to make women come to theaters like he did 30 years ago. :whatever: Who goes to see a movie cuase a dude is hot? :huh: That's what porn is for! :o

Well teenage girls for one. Why do you think the Pirates sequels, especially the second one, did so well? Trust me I worked through both of them, the people who kept coming back were teenage girls.

That being said, I don't think male eye candy factors into any of the movies this summer. I mean RDJ is a recovering drug abuser who is in his forties and hasn't really been around for a while. Bale isn't exactly considered good looking (I think more guys have "crushes" on him than girls do) and Heath Ledger is covered up in ultra creepy clown makeup.

and the closer Indy comes, the more I've heard people do start commenting on his age in the negative. But I still think overall curiosity will bring people to the theater.

TheVileOne
05-15-2008, 06:31 PM
Iron Man will make $350 million :D .

fallenAngel
05-15-2008, 06:40 PM
Spider-Man 3 was "dark" last year too and was the top grosser. IM2 will probably be "darker" than IM1 (with the alcohol thing) and it'll make MORE money most likely.


Spider man 3 wasn't dark. It was moody. In fact that is why alot of people disliked it (that and the Venom thing, but those people need to grow up). Because it wasn't light enough to be any fun and it wasn't dark enough to be respected.

It was melodramatic.

Franklin Richards
05-15-2008, 06:58 PM
Is Ford still considered a "hunk" (or whatever term ladies are using these days) though, as compared to Bale, Ledger, or Downey?

Hey! I didn't think Connery would still be considered a Hunk but he is. And so is Ford. My girlfriend and all her friends still rave about him.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

kedrell
05-15-2008, 07:17 PM
Iron Man will make $350 million :D .


While I'd love that to be true, I'm thinking it'll top out right around 300M(give or take 5M). I'd like to know your analysis of how it''ll arrive at that number cause I'd love for you to be right.

Excel
05-15-2008, 07:20 PM
Is Ford still considered a "hunk" (or whatever term ladies are using these days) though, as compared to Bale, Ledger, or Downey?

No, but he is more famous. Most girls would have rated it Ledger, Bale and than Downey but now that he's well, dead, and is playing the joker, it wouldnt matter.

I don't think Indy will do as great as people say it will. I honestly believe this year BO champ will be either IM or TDK, with IM beating Bats out. Indy may be 3rd or 4th. Harrison Ford isn't "hot" enough to make women come to theaters like he did 30 years ago. Who goes to see a movie cuase a dude is hot? That's what porn is for!

If TDK n Indy fail to top iron man, harry potter 6 is a lock to win the year.

kedrell
05-15-2008, 07:21 PM
Well teenage girls for one. Why do you think the Pirates sequels, especially the second one, did so well? Trust me I worked through both of them, the people who kept coming back were teenage girls.

That being said, I don't think male eye candy factors into any of the movies this summer. I mean RDJ is a recovering drug abuser who is in his forties and hasn't really been around for a while. Bale isn't exactly considered good looking (I think more guys have "crushes" on him than girls do) and Heath Ledger is covered up in ultra creepy clown makeup.

and the closer Indy comes, the more I've heard people do start commenting on his age in the negative. But I still think overall curiosity will bring people to the theater.

Isn't that why Shia's in IJ4? And Downey's in pretty much the same spot that Depp was 5 years ago with POTC. I'm not sure how ga-ga the females went over him as opposed to Bloom in that film but Downey in IM is pretty comparable age-wise, acting-wise, looks-wise.

kedrell
05-15-2008, 07:23 PM
Spider man 3 wasn't dark. It was moody. In fact that is why alot of people disliked it (that and the Venom thing, but those people need to grow up). Because it wasn't light enough to be any fun and it wasn't dark enough to be respected.

It was melodramatic.

I completely agree with this. BB was dark and successful. Hulk'03 was dark and unsuccessful. SM3 was just a mess.

TLH
05-15-2008, 07:39 PM
Iron Man is going to crush old Indy this summer as well. Indy will not do anywhere near as well as Iron Man.

Not sure. Let's wait and see how Indy's opening weekend goes before we start saying Iron Man will win out over everybody.

I admire your bold prediction (after all, I predicted that Cloverfield wouldn't gross over $100 million after it's $40 million opening, and I called it...in fact, no movie has every failed to cross $100 million after a $40 million opening), but we'll have to wait and see.

Docker2.0
05-15-2008, 07:41 PM
No, but he is more famous. Most girls would have rated it Ledger, Bale and than Downey but now that he's well, dead, and is playing the joker, it wouldnt matter.



If TDK n Indy fail to top iron man, harry potter 6 is a lock to win the year.

HP comes out this year? :huh: Well..................WB may finally have a movie that makes over $250 million this year(cause TDK won't).

TLH
05-15-2008, 07:58 PM
HP comes out this year? :huh: Well..................WB may finally have a movie that makes over $250 million this year(cause TDK won't).

I'll be calling you out on that one. :oldrazz:

Excel
05-15-2008, 07:58 PM
HP comes out this year? :huh: Well..................WB may finally have a movie that makes over $250 million this year(cause TDK won't).

Comes out in November. W.B. Look likely to have 2 300 million dollar domestic films in the same year :up:

Docker2.0
05-15-2008, 08:12 PM
I'll be calling you out on that one. :oldrazz:
I'll be waiting! :cmad:

explode7
05-15-2008, 08:14 PM
Man am I glad I was right about Iron Man's Box Office intake. I predicted 100M - 120M OW for Iron Man which fell short. :( But oh well we're getting a sequel. Now lets see if my 300M domestic and 350M international figures will hold.

Docker2.0
05-15-2008, 08:15 PM
Comes out in November. W.B. Look likely to have 2 300 million dollar domestic films in the same year :up:

Aren't you the same guy who predicted IM wouldn't make so much? :grin: Your track record predicting movies isn't exactly stellar! ;)

explode7
05-15-2008, 08:16 PM
As for TDK I don't think it will be as anywhere near successful as Iron Man would be. It might make what Iron Man made in its second weekend for its first weekend.

Docker2.0
05-15-2008, 08:18 PM
Man am I glad I was right about Iron Man's Box Office intake. I predicted 100M - 120M OW for Iron Man which fell short. :( But oh well we're getting a sequel. Now lets see if my 300M domestic and 350M international figures will hold.
Bah! This movie is going to make $270M max. I'd love for $300M but it's just not going to happen. But at least it beat Superman's BO. That's all that matters to me! :up:

TLH
05-15-2008, 08:22 PM
I'll be waiting! :cmad:

So be it. :cmad: :oldrazz:

fallenAngel
05-15-2008, 08:25 PM
Bah! This movie is going to make $270M max. I'd love for $300M but it's just not going to happen. But at least it beat Superman's BO. That's all that matters to me! :up:

That shouldn't be hard.

And yeah, 270 seems like a good guess. But who knows. I though Iron man was going to open closer to 70 million and laughed at those who thought it would be bigger.

kedrell
05-15-2008, 08:27 PM
Man am I glad I was right about Iron Man's Box Office intake. I predicted 100M - 120M OW for Iron Man which fell short. :( But oh well we're getting a sequel. Now lets see if my 300M domestic and 350M international figures will hold.

You were right on that one it seems.

Arkady Rossovich
05-15-2008, 08:27 PM
I can imagine it might. People are still seeing it,I was one of the late watchers. I know it did better than all expectations,how much has it made so far?

explode7
05-15-2008, 08:29 PM
HA! It's good to see all those people feeling sorry for themselves who were laughing at me for stating a 100 - 120 M OW for Iron Man. Man I wish I was here for when it opened rather than 2 weeks afterwards to gloat about it. I got banned for posting a bloody Nick Fury end credits scene. :cmad:

kedrell
05-15-2008, 08:31 PM
Bah! This movie is going to make $270M max. I'd love for $300M but it's just not going to happen. But at least it beat Superman's BO. That's all that matters to me! :up:

Check my analysis on the previous page. 275M is the minimum this could make at this point. 300M is totally possible. I used SM3's legs as a guide and I expect IM to have much better holds from here on out.

Kanon
05-15-2008, 08:31 PM
There is many people that haven't seen this movie yet...

I know 'cause I keep telling them to go, and they say "Yeah, I wanna go, maybe this weekend"

kedrell
05-15-2008, 08:32 PM
I can imagine it might. People are still seeing it,I was one of the late watchers. I know it did better than all expectations,how much has it made so far?

188M as of yesterday.

explode7
05-15-2008, 08:36 PM
I think it should be able to sail quite comfortably to 300M as well as 350 International. Who knows how well Narnia and IJ will do in the comming weeks.

kedrell
05-15-2008, 08:39 PM
Hopefully TIH can make 2/3 of IM's gross.

explode7
05-15-2008, 08:50 PM
^It's TIH I'm most worried about. I have my doubts about that one. The trailers so far have done nothing for me really as compared to Iron Man.

Docker2.0
05-15-2008, 08:51 PM
2/3 is only $140 million. :huh: Anyway, this movie isn't Spidey. I hope it makes $300M but I'm looking at the facts and it doesn't make sense for it to. But hopefully I'm as wrong as a gay earthworm and it makes more. But hey........it buried SR. :up: :o

explode7
05-15-2008, 08:55 PM
2/3 is only $140 million. :huh: Anyway, this movie isn't Spidey. I hope it makes $300M but I'm looking at the facts and it doesn't make sense for it to. But hopefully I'm as wrong as a gay earthworm and it makes more. But hey........it buried SR. :up: :o

Yeah we get the idea that it blew away SR. :hehe: By the way we're talking about Superman Returns here right and not Speed Racer?

kedrell
05-15-2008, 08:58 PM
2/3 is only $140 million. :huh: Anyway, this movie isn't Spidey. I hope it makes $300M but I'm looking at the facts and it doesn't make sense for it to. But hopefully I'm as wrong as a gay earthworm and it makes more. But hey........it buried SR. :up: :o

I meant 2/3 of it's eventual total. 200M domestic and 400M WW total.

TLH
05-15-2008, 10:06 PM
I meant 2/3 of it's eventual total. 200M domestic and 400M WW total.

It would be nice to see TIH do those kinds of numbers. We'll see. I think Iron Man has re-established hype over Marvel films. I'm not sure it can quite do those numbers but I personally feel it will do well.

Excel
05-15-2008, 11:59 PM
Aren't you the same guy who predicted IM wouldn't make so much? :grin: Your track record predicting movies isn't exactly stellar! ;)

No...in fact as far as I can see, I was the 1st to say 250 million for it...

http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=33185

Thats from last July, so...yeah.

Tony Stark
05-16-2008, 12:06 AM
No...in fact as far as I can see, I was the 1st to say 250 million for it...

http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=33185

Thats from last July, so...yeah.

You're still lying about that?

Tony Stark
05-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Aren't you the same guy who predicted IM wouldn't make so much? :grin: Your track record predicting movies isn't exactly stellar! ;)

Yep, and the one who predicted Superman Returns was going to be a 300 million dollar movie.

NoirMan82
05-16-2008, 12:44 AM
Yep, and the one who predicted Superman Returns was going to be a 300 million dollar movie.

Maybe he meant the budget?! Ohhh, dang! :woot:

Docker2.0
05-16-2008, 12:54 AM
Yep, and the one who predicted Superman Returns was going to be a 300 million dollar movie.

Wow! So if Excel says Hulk will bomb, it'd probably make Spidey numbers huh? LOL!

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 01:17 AM
While I'd love that to be true, I'm thinking it'll top out right around 300M(give or take 5M). I'd like to know your analysis of how it''ll arrive at that number cause I'd love for you to be right.
Best reviewed movie of the year. Best word of mouth for any blockbuster at the moment. And of course. Memorial Day.

Iron Man is definitely poised for a big drop this weekend, no matter how well Prince Caspian (which I just saw) was. However, with Memorial Day, the drop will be miniscule if at all. The Memorial Day push will put it over $250 million. And after that, getting to $300 million will be easy.

It's about looking beyond one or two weekends. It's looking at least two months in theatres. $350 million is NOT impossible.

The Incredible Hulk basically needs to ride the success of Iron Man and milk it for all its worth.

Theweepeople
05-16-2008, 04:16 AM
The Incredible Hulk basically needs to ride the success of Iron Man and milk it for all its worth.

I'm pulling for the Hulk to do well but, I'm concerned that audiences who saw the last film may afraid seeing this movie. If Marvel wants that movie to do well, they better start promoting it to death. I've only seen one Hulk commercial in the last past month and a half.

ultimatefan
05-16-2008, 07:34 AM
I'm pulling for the Hulk to do well but, I'm concerned that audiences who saw the last film may afraid seeing this movie. If Marvel wants that movie to do well, they better start promoting it to death. I've only seen one Hulk commercial in the last past month and a half.

That problem existed with the Batman relaunch with BB, and Nolan still pulled it off. It wonīt be easy, but it can be done. According to polls, people responded well to the TIH trailer that played with IM, so hereīs to hoping.

Looking at Narnia this weekend, itīs at 69% at www.rottentomatoes.com, which is a mixed-to-positive rating. It should have a huge opening, but not sure about its legs, especially when Indy 4 is right on its tail.

yoshimura
05-16-2008, 10:02 AM
Haven't seen any Hulk advertising here. Marvel better start pumping ads soon or "HULK BOMB!":oldrazz:

Docker2.0
05-16-2008, 01:28 PM
That's my thing! Hulk isn't being advertised at all! It's like they are giving up on the movie already.

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 02:01 PM
Just to address it guys. Chances are Iron Man will make around $25 million plus or minus this weekend. OK, so that puts it at about $215 million. Figure in weekday grosses. Then put on the Memorial Day weekend which will not hurt the dropoff despite Indy, and Iron Man is at over $250 million. OK, so with a few more weekends, how can it not top $300 million?

Docker2.0
05-16-2008, 02:06 PM
Like I said, this movie will make $270M tops. I'd LOVE for it to make $300M but its not going to happen.

Docker2.0
05-16-2008, 02:07 PM
Like I said, this movie will make $270M tops. I'd LOVE for it to make $300M but its not going to happen.

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 02:07 PM
Why? Memorial Day is NOT going to hurt this movie.

Care to make a sig bet over this Docker?

Docker2.0
05-16-2008, 02:15 PM
What's with you guys and the BO bets?! :huh:

What kind of bet we talking? Bring it on! :cmad:

Excel
05-16-2008, 02:17 PM
Hulks the bomb of the summer.

You're still lying about that?

Not a lie.

Yep, and the one who predicted Superman Returns was going to be a 300 million dollar movie.

I said 250 for SR. You need to get your facts straight or stay out of the conversation.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-16-2008, 02:21 PM
THI is not making 200mil. Period. I haven't seen one T.V spot and the movie comes out in less than a month. I also believe that it will get worse reviews than the first movie which by the way didn't exactly get terrible reviews despite the fact that the regular moviegoer hated it.

Iron man will be the big movie for Marvel.

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 02:24 PM
This isn't the Hulk BO thread but whatever. I think the jury is still out on the Hulk.

Its hard to step up a campaign though when you have this Narnia and Indy blitz currently going on.

Though I think people know Hulk is coming and will see it. It really just needs to play off the excitement of Iron Man.

And Iron Man is making over $300 million and will continue to dominate all comers this summer. Batman, Indy, hell even freaking Wall-E don't stand a chance against Iron Man.

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 02:25 PM
What's with you guys and the BO bets?! :huh:

What kind of bet we talking? Bring it on! :cmad:

If Iron Man makes over $300 million, you have to use a signature of my choosing for up 3 months.

If you win and Iron Man makes less than $300 million, same thing.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-16-2008, 02:54 PM
Iron man won't make 300mil. 290mil tippedy top for it. I'm thinking inbetween 275 to 285mil is in order.

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 02:56 PM
The math is there. It will make over $300 million. At the least it makes $215 million after this weekend. At the LEAST! Iron Man has the word of mouth and legs to carry it to $300 million. Second weekend proves this.

Speed Racer is already the bomb of the summer, :p .

I SEE SPIDEY
05-16-2008, 03:07 PM
I'm factoring in Indy and Caspian and other films though. Yes IM has derservedly good word and is going to have decent blockbuster legs but I still see it getting hurt by the constant competition and the fact that it doesn't appeal to most women the way it appeals to men. Thats what gave Spidey and Pirates there edge at the boxoffice I just don't think that Iron Man has it. I hope I'm wrong.

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 03:15 PM
I'm factoring in Indy and Caspian and other films though. Yes IM has derservedly good word and is going to have decent blockbuster legs but I still see it getting hurt by the constant competition and the fact that it doesn't appeal to most women the way it appeals to men. Thats what gave Spidey and Pirates there edge at the boxoffice I just don't think that Iron Man has it. I hope I'm wrong.

Iron Man has it. Women love Gwyneth and Downey Jr. Its not just men going to see this.

Of course it will be due for drops with Caspian and Indy. However, the third weekend drop for blockbusters is usually not as low as the second weekend. Plus with a holiday weekend if Caspian and/or Indy showings are sold out, what will families go and see? IRON MAN.

You are ignoring the Memorial Day factor. With Memorial Day, Iron Man's US box office surpasses over $250 million, and with that, $300 million is coming.

FlawlessVictory
05-16-2008, 03:18 PM
Iron man won't make 300mil. 290mil tippedy top for it. I'm thinking inbetween 275 to 285mil is in order.

Once again I agree with your BO prediction.

The math is there. It will make over $300 million. At the least it makes $215 million after this weekend. At the LEAST! Iron Man has the word of mouth and legs to carry it to $200 million. Second weekend proves this.

I don't think anyone will argue you there. :word:

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 03:31 PM
It will surpass $300 million, you just have to believe. BELIEVE!

Docker2.0
05-16-2008, 04:05 PM
If Iron Man makes over $300 million, you have to use a signature of my choosing for up 3 months.

If you win and Iron Man makes less than $300 million, same thing.

We have to lessen that time. I'm betting that same deal with Crook about TDK BO receipts. But I accept! :cmad:

kedrell
05-16-2008, 04:47 PM
Hulks the bomb of the summer.

Of 2003, I agree. But not this year. Speed Crapper gets that honor this year.

kedrell
05-16-2008, 04:54 PM
It actually increased Thursday. Made $3,169,387 which is a 2.8% increase over Wednesday's number. Most other films fell Thursday. I smell a 30M 3rd weekend coming. That'd be a 41.4% drop from last weekend.

Excel
05-16-2008, 05:30 PM
Of 2003, I agree. But not this year. Speed Crapper gets that honor this year.

Heh, true.

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 06:32 PM
It actually increased Thursday. Made $3,169,387 which is a 2.8% increase over Wednesday's number. Most other films fell Thursday. I smell a 30M 3rd weekend coming. That'd be a 41.4% drop from last weekend.
$30 million weekend = over $220 million by Monday. Which + Memorial Day + weekdays + a few more weekends = IRON MAN MAKING OVER $300 MILLION US!

explode7
05-16-2008, 07:36 PM
The VileOne talks alot of sense. Some of you on here should listen to him. Iron Man will sail quite easily to 300M during its entire run and possibly 350M International.

Figs
05-16-2008, 08:25 PM
$30 million weekend = over $220 million by Monday. Which + Memorial Day + weekdays + a few more weekends = IRON MAN MAKING OVER $300 MILLION US!


I can easily see that.

My gf is going to be gone at some work project this weekend so we're not going to see the new Narnia film untill next week.

I'm thinking of seeing Iron Man a fourth time tomorrow or Sunday.:woot:

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 09:05 PM
We need to start an Iron Man $300 million movement. Frivolous BO #'s club people!

Iceman
05-16-2008, 09:08 PM
A worthy cause!

explode7
05-16-2008, 09:13 PM
We need to start an Iron Man $300 million movement. Frivolous BO #'s club people!

I'm in. :hehe:

Raiden
05-16-2008, 10:17 PM
Just saw IM for my 2nd time for 1:25pm screening. There were about 40 or so people there, and that's a good crowd for Friday afternoon. I think it'll probably make another 30 million this weekend.

S.A.A.D.
05-16-2008, 10:29 PM
I think Iron Man will make around 40$ million from this Fri-Sunday.

Tony Stark
05-16-2008, 10:39 PM
I don't know how it was for everyone else, but they still reserved the big screens for Iron Man. I was suprised that we went to Prince Caspian on one of the smaller screens.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-16-2008, 10:43 PM
It won't make 40mil over the weekend. It only went up 179% from thursday to friday last weekend. You should pay attention to how it made it's money over last weekend, that will give you a good barometer on how it will perform this weekend, trust me I know about this stuff.

If it follows last weekend the best case sceniro is a tad over 30mil. It's impossible for it to make 40mil this weekend. I'm still thinking that it will make about 28-29mil.

As I keep saying though I do hope that it makes it to 300mil, I just think that there is a slim chance of that happening. Hope I'm wrong.

CaptainStacy
05-16-2008, 10:48 PM
Took the wife to see it tonight. Her first viewing and my fifth. I was surprised to find the theater about 3/4 full (must be left over from the sold out Narnia audience)...regardless, IM is still doing decent business. :up:

FaT_tONle
05-16-2008, 10:50 PM
Iron Man has it. Women love Gwyneth and Downey Jr. Its not just men going to see this.

Of course it will be due for drops with Caspian and Indy. However, the third weekend drop for blockbusters is usually not as low as the second weekend. Plus with a holiday weekend if Caspian and/or Indy showings are sold out, what will families go and see? IRON MAN.

You are ignoring the Memorial Day factor. With Memorial Day, Iron Man's US box office surpasses over $250 million, and with that, $300 million is coming.

You are sounding like AD when it comes to this stuff... talking like IM is going to be the top grossing film of the summer... lets just see how it fares this third weekend before we annoint this a 300 domestic film. I hope you are right but the dropoffs are due and we are not even two thirds of the way there yet.

S.A.A.D.
05-16-2008, 10:53 PM
It won't make 40mil over the weekend. It only went up 179% from thursday to friday last weekend. You should pay attention to how it made it's money over last weekend, that will give you a good barometer on how it will perform this weekend, trust me I know about this stuff.

If it follows last weekend the best case sceniro is a tad over 30mil. It's impossible for it to make 40mil this weekend. I'm still thinking that it will make about 28-29mil.









As I keep saying though I do hope that it makes it to 300mil, I just think that there is a slim chance of that happening. Hope I'm wrong.


I know that Iron Man last weekend made 51$ million. Trust me,it's going to make 40$ million this weekend. Let me put it this way,alot more people want to see Iron Man,but not Speed Racer. Iron Man should drop to second place at the box office for this weekend,Indiana Jones 4 doesn't come out until next Thursday. If I am wrong then I am wrong once it is Sunday.

Excel
05-16-2008, 11:02 PM
Iron Man is not finishing under 285. I def. think itll hit 300.

S.A.A.D.
05-16-2008, 11:12 PM
Iron Man is not finishing under 285. I def. think itll hit 300.

^*Waits for ISeeSpidey to say something like no,I would know better.
:hehe:

Figs
05-16-2008, 11:17 PM
Took the wife to see it tonight. Her first viewing and my fifth. I was surprised to find the theater about 3/4 full (must be left over from the sold out Narnia audience)...regardless, IM is still doing decent business. :up:


How did your wife like it?

Docker2.0
05-16-2008, 11:25 PM
Iron Man is not finishing under 285. I def. think itll hit 300.
Way to go 180 degrees after being COMPLETELY wrong originally about the BO. :hehe:

S.A.A.D.
05-16-2008, 11:28 PM
Docker,I am going to be off topic for a short time and ask you the following,who is the girl in your avatar?

TheVileOne
05-16-2008, 11:28 PM
If it makes $28-30 million, that means it will be over $250 million Memorial Day regardless.

This weekend will prove to all of you that Iron Man has legs.

I don't think its a big deal for Excel. I first predicted Iron Man would make about $200-215 million. I didn't expect it to do as well as its doing right now. And that's great.

Because it will make $300 million.

Docker2.0
05-16-2008, 11:34 PM
Docker,I am going to be off topic for a short time and ask you the following,who is the girl in your avatar?

Some girl off the AppleBottom contest like 2 years ago. You can thank Crook for it.......though I want a bigger and sexier avator! :cmad:

I SEE SPIDEY
05-16-2008, 11:35 PM
^*Waits for ISeeSpidey to say something like no,I would know better.
:hehe:It would have to drop only 20percent to hit 40mil. It would have to go up an exceptional amount to do that, how on earth is that going to happen with competition from Narnia which is assured atleast 70mil over the weekend? It doesn't have a shot in hell at making 40mil, the best case scenerio is 32mil and I don't even see that happening. Even if Narnia wasn't coming out it still wouldn't make over 40mil this weekend because movies just don't drop like that. I don't believe that any moderen blockbuster movie has dropped 48% in it's second weekend and then without a holliday and competition from a huge movie dropped 20% in it's third weekend. That just doesn't make sense. It's baffling how anyone come up with that number, just baffling.

CaptainStacy
05-16-2008, 11:39 PM
It would have to drop only 20percent to hit 40mil. It would have to go up an exceptional amount to do that, how on earth is that going to happen with competition from Narnia which is assured atleast 70mil over the weekend? It doesn't have a shot in hell at making 40mil, the best case scenerio is 32mil and I don't even see that happening. Even if Narnia wasn't coming out it still wouldn't make over 40mil this weekend because movies just don't drop like that. I don't believe that any moderen blockbuster movie has dropped 48% in it's second weekend and then without a holliday and competition from a huge movie dropped 20% in it's third weekend. That just doesn't make sense. It's baffling how anyone come up with that number, just baffling.

Yeah, im thinking 20 mil for Iron Man this weekend, tops, and that will be a GIFT.

Excel
05-16-2008, 11:40 PM
Iron Man will be rought around 30 million, I forsee, this weekend. Maybe even 31-32.

CaptainStacy
05-16-2008, 11:41 PM
How did your wife like it?

She loved it.

S.A.A.D.
05-16-2008, 11:45 PM
It would have to drop only 20percent to hit 40mil. It would have to go up an exceptional amount to do that, how on earth is that going to happen with competition from Narnia which is assured atleast 70mil over the weekend? It doesn't have a shot in hell at making 40mil, the best case scenerio is 32mil and I don't even see that happening. Even if Narnia wasn't coming out it still wouldn't make over 40mil this weekend because movies just don't drop like that. I don't believe that any moderen blockbuster movie has dropped 48% in it's second weekend and then without a holliday and competition from a huge movie dropped 20% in it's third weekend. That just doesn't make sense. It's baffling how anyone come up with that number, just baffling.

Oh well.

S.A.A.D.
05-16-2008, 11:46 PM
Some girl off the AppleBottom contest like 2 years ago. You can thank Crook for it.......though I want a bigger and sexier avator! :cmad:

She's freaking hot! Too bad she doesn't seem to have a name.
I don't mean literally though.:o

Figs
05-16-2008, 11:54 PM
She loved it.


Cool.

I hope to hell Iron Man hits 300mil. I want Marvel Studios to kick some major ass and get their other projects going.

So far Iron Man has been doing awesome and hopefully The Incredible Hulk can do some damage next month. I think it will...especially after just seeing those new tv spots and seeing how much they touched up and changed it. Looks a lot better.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-16-2008, 11:55 PM
Yeah, im thinking 20 mil for Iron Man this weekend, tops, and that will be a GIFT.It will make more than 20mil, it's weekdays point to a higher number. It more likely than not won't make under 26mil.

It made 3.2mil on thursday, even with Narnia out it should still go up atleast 120% to 7mil and the last two days should play out almost like the last two days of the past weekend. I seriously doubt it's going to drop 60percent. I could see another 48percent but with it's word not 60. I could be wrong but I don't think that I am.

Look for a 8 to 9mil friday. Unless Narnia makes 100mil I just don't see a 60% drop, although thats more plausible than a 20% drop.

CaptainStacy
05-16-2008, 11:58 PM
Cool.

I hope to hell Iron Man hits 300mil. I want Marvel Studios to kick some major ass and get their other projects going.

So far Iron Man has been doing awesome and hopefully The Incredible Hulk can do some damage next month. I think it will...especially after just seeing those new tv spots and seeing how much they touched up and changed it. Looks a lot better.

Yeah, im excited. They need to play up Downey's appearance as Stark in the new Hulk movie a bit more as well. I mean, why not take advantage of a good thing, right?

Figs
05-17-2008, 12:00 AM
Yeah, im excited. They need to play up Downey's appearance as Stark in the new Hulk movie a bit more as well. I mean, why not take advantage of a good thing, right?


Hell yeah!

From what I'm hearing though isn't it going to be at the end like the scene with Nick Fury in Iron Man? Or is it confirmed that it will be in the actual film?

Raiden
05-17-2008, 12:00 AM
Yeah, im excited. They need to play up Downey's appearance as Stark in the new Hulk movie a bit more as well. I mean, why not take advantage of a good thing, right?

Good idea. I hope they put RDJ's cameo in the TV spots. It will probably enticed many new IM fans to go and check it out.

CaptainStacy
05-17-2008, 12:02 AM
Hell yeah!

From what I'm hearing though isn't it going to be at the end like the scene with Nick Fury in Iron Man? Or is it confirmed that it will be in the actual film?

Im not sure. I wish they'd get Sam in as Fury as well! My frickin' head would explode, lol. :bomb:

CaptainStacy
05-17-2008, 12:02 AM
Good idea. I hope they put RDJ's cameo in the TV spots. It will probably enticed many new IM fans to go and check it out.

Exactly! :up:

Kargo Warrior
05-17-2008, 12:47 AM
NARNIA SHOCKER: 'Prince Caspian' underwhelms w/$18M Fri & disappointing $51.3M opening!; 'Iron Man' w/$9.25M Fri & targets $33M, making $300M possible!

http://news.fantasymoguls.com/originalcontent/2008/05/early-weekend-n.html

Go Iron Man!!!

I SEE SPIDEY
05-17-2008, 12:53 AM
^If that Narnia number is correct I will be a little surprised. If that Iron Man number is correct color me happy!

Marvin
05-17-2008, 12:53 AM
if that's true then this really is a case of all the competition rolling over and dying and forming a carpet for ironman to craw his way to that 300m mark

it'd suck if that was the case, some might say it was circumstance that killed the beast

my guess is indy is gonna be a "dissapointment" as well and it's gonna be another round of iron man for my lady friend and i

go iron man

CaptainStacy
05-17-2008, 12:56 AM
If that Iron Man number is correct color me happy!

If it's correct then your prediction was spot-on! :up:

Tony Stark
05-17-2008, 01:11 AM
NARNIA SHOCKER: 'Prince Caspian' underwhelms w/$18M Fri & disappointing $51.3M opening!; 'Iron Man' w/$9.25M Fri & targets $33M, making $300M possible!

http://news.fantasymoguls.com/originalcontent/2008/05/early-weekend-n.html

Go Iron Man!!!

Those number are way off predicted levels for Narnia. Something doesn't seem right. I'll wait for Box office Mojo tomorrow.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-17-2008, 01:13 AM
We will see later today in my time zone Captain.

I actually expect Narnia's numbers to be higher than what the early tracking suggests, I'm thinking it's going to get an estimated 22,23mil. I'm feeling that it's opening is going to be a disappointment to disney though. Man I need to go to sleep, it's 2:13am!

I SEE SPIDEY
05-17-2008, 01:16 AM
Those number are way off predicted levels for Narnia. Something doesn't seem right. I'll wait for Box office Mojo tomorrow.Thats why people are using if. I'm going to wait for Showbizdatas, which come out before Mojo's usually and comment accordingly. These are predictions from early ticket sales, nobody should take them like they are writen in stone.

TheVileOne
05-17-2008, 01:58 AM
People need to stop underestimating it already. It might've been OK two months.

But the movie is THE movie of the summer right now. It's like Spider-man 6 years ago.

$300 million here we come. Kedrell, prepare yourself.

The Caped Knight
05-17-2008, 02:07 AM
NARNIA SHOCKER: 'Prince Caspian' underwhelms w/$18M Fri & disappointing $51.3M opening!; 'Iron Man' w/$9.25M Fri & targets $33M, making $300M possible!

http://news.fantasymoguls.com/originalcontent/2008/05/early-weekend-n.html

Go Iron Man!!!

WTF this can't be right .

TheVileOne
05-17-2008, 02:20 AM
Did you think it was right when Speed Racer made less than What Happens in Vegas and Iron Man was still #1?

Iron Man - $300 million club. Its going to happen Kedrell. You can't stop it.

Figs
05-17-2008, 09:54 AM
300mil...It's coming baby!!

Excel
05-17-2008, 10:06 AM
Its right, Narnia flopped which is what I personally thought would happen (though never THAT badly)

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=14804116&postcount=2431

Iron Man held great, which again is also what I thought would happen...

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=14822497&postcount=2604

Now will yall listen...IM is doing 300 million.

ultimatefan
05-17-2008, 10:09 AM
Iīm not worried about the 300m mark myself. The movieīs a big hit, the comic book movie genreīs alive and well, and a sequel with Favreau, Downey and the rest of the gang back is a lock.

Docker2.0
05-17-2008, 10:42 AM
Wow! Narnia did far less than I expected. I'm truly shocked but I am hoping that IM gets $300M. But I hope Narnia does well as well.

CaptainStacy
05-17-2008, 11:08 AM
Narnia is more of a family movie, than a "Friday Night Crowd" movie...i expect it to pick up this weekend when all the kids go see it.

Excel
05-17-2008, 11:27 AM
To put in perspective how low the number is, the originla made 23 million on its 1st Friday/opening day and that was in DECEMBER. Films open bigger in summer, i.e..

Harry Potter 1 Friday/weekend: 32/90 - Fri-to-total multiplier=2.8
Harry Potter 2 Friday/weekend: 29/88 - Fri-to-total multiplier=3.0

Now it moves from November too june...

Harry Potter 3 Friday/weekend: 38/93 - Fri-to-total multiplier=2.4

Note the massive increase from opening day (+ 9 million) but slight increase in weekend. PC actually did 3-4 million LESS than LWW did.

If Narnia were to follow Potter, that would be a horrendous 43 million. I am sure it will do better than that, but given the history of Mid May openers an dhow they preform, 18 million Fridays horrible.

Also, for those thinking its big family audiences are coming tomorrow, that could be a bit off. The original had far more fmaily appeal and only rose 10% on Saturday.

CaptainStacy
05-17-2008, 11:31 AM
To put in perspective how low the number is, the originla made 23 million on its 1st Friday/opening day and that was in DECEMBER. Films open bigger in summer, i.e..

Harry Potter 1 Friday/weekend: 32/90 - Fri-to-total multiplier=2.8
Harry Potter 2 Friday/weekend: 29/88 - Fri-to-total multiplier=3.0

Now it moves from November too june...

Harry Potter 3 Friday/weekend: 38/93 - Fri-to-total multiplier=2.4

Note the massive increase from opening day (+ 9 million) but slight increase in weekend. PC actually did 3-4 million LESS than LWW did.

If Narnia were to follow Potter, that would be a horrendous 43 million. I am sure it will do better than that, but given the history of Mid May openers an dhow they preform, 18 million Fridays horrible.

Also, for those thinking its big family audiences are coming tomorrow, that could be a bit off. The original had far more fmaily appeal and only rose 10% on Saturday.


Wow, so it really IS in trouble.

ultimatefan
05-17-2008, 12:15 PM
The Narnia opening is dangerously low, if it doesnīt have real good legs or makes huge numbers overseas, the franchise may be in trouble.

On the other hand, IM is right on the edge of 200m, which makes it the eighth superhero movie of the new millennium to reach that mark.

Raiden
05-17-2008, 12:33 PM
Wow, Narnia underperformed. Didn't think it would happen like this, but it bodes well for IM.

ultimatefan
05-17-2008, 01:14 PM
Itīs pretty weird, considering itīs a sequel to a very successful movie, ther isnīt any other major release, and the only other PG-rated family movie of the summer just flopped. Comes to show how BO is unpredictable.

Upset Spideyfan
05-17-2008, 01:15 PM
Didn't the first Narnia open low and have good legs?

ultimatefan
05-17-2008, 01:22 PM
Didn't the first Narnia open low and have good legs?

It wasnīt huge, but it opened better than this. Itīs never a good sign when a sequel opens lower than the first movie.

Mauser9910
05-17-2008, 02:17 PM
Woah ! BO Mojo estimates IM at 8M on Friday ! Almost 200 M domestic already ! :)
I think IM will profit of the rest of the summer, being an excellent second choice if the "new film of the week" is sold out.

Tony Stark
05-17-2008, 04:35 PM
Wow, Narnia underperformed. Didn't think it would happen like this, but it bodes well for IM.

I think this is real premature. Being a PG movie it's going to have a big Saturday, and because of the Christian influence, may not have a big Sunday drop.

Also keep in mind that Narnia has a pretty small release respectively speaking. I think it was on about 3500 -3700 screens, whereas Iron Man and Speed Racer were on over 4000 screens. So I think this movie will not have a huge drop in week 2.

Tony Stark
05-17-2008, 05:08 PM
Correction to above, it looks like Narnia actually opened on approx 3900 screens. Still less than Iron Man, but actually more than Speed Racer, which was aroun 3600.

I still think that analysts are going to be off on this, because I think Saturday could be huge, with not a big dropoff on Sunday.

I think analysts took way too much stock in the midnight showings of Narnia. This isn't Spider-man, this isn't Pirates of the Carribean, this isn't Star Wars. This is a family movie, and people aren't going to a midnight showing of Narnia on a school night with their kids.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-17-2008, 06:16 PM
Narnia isn't going to suddenly make 80mil this weekend. It's opening is a disppointment. Just last weekend the SpeedRacer fans said that it would pick up huge over the weekend and it didn't. I'm not saying that the same thing is going to happen to Narnia necessarily and the opening is hardly flops-ville but it is/will be disappointing. Even if it goes up 50percent on saturday and drops 27% on sunday it still would open to only five more mil than the first one and undoubtedly be a slight down tick in ticketsales. Sequels like this need to open to much more than their predecessors because the legs will always be far worse. All that being said it's highly unlikely to go up that much on saturday, right now I'd look for a at best 20% increase on saturday and a 28% decrease on sunday leaving it with 59mil. I think that it has a good shot at 60mil but it needed to open with atleast 80mil to justify the cost and hype.

Good to see that my Iron Man range panned out. I actually had it at 8.8mil, hopefully the actuals go up from the estimates and not down.

TheVileOne
05-17-2008, 06:41 PM
Caspian has Memorial to help bolster the disappointment of opening weekend. Despite Indy, they will have to rely a lot on alternative viewing for Memorial Day.

Iron Man is well on its way to $300 million. Believe it.

I bet Indy opens up with a disappointing # as well.

explode7
05-17-2008, 06:49 PM
:wow: Narnia only made 19M opening day. Thats really pathetic. I'm guessing Narnia would make 60M tops opening weekend?

I SEE SPIDEY
05-17-2008, 07:05 PM
Caspian has Memorial to help bolster the disappointment of opening weekend. Despite Indy, they will have to rely a lot on alternative viewing for Memorial Day.

It will get a boost then it's going to drop like a rock.

Iron Man is well on its way to $200 million. Believe it.

Fantastic!:up: I hope you are right and it makes 300mil. If it does I'll bring the party hats.:woot:

I bet Indy opens up with a disappointing # as well.I wouldn't be surprised, hell I always thought that this summer would be a financal disappointment even if the movies were better than last year. Pince Caspian and Speed Racer are slowly but surely bolstering my arguement. SpeedRacer is a mega bomb and Prince Caspian, atleast in it's opening weekend, is a disappointment. I seriously doubt that it will have the 4.5 multiplier of the holliday aided last one, especialy with Indy 4 coming out.

I think that Indy will open huge, like 125 to 140mil for it's extended weekend below the 150 to 170mil tracking numbers and get 325 to 340mil total and a crapload more overseas. Those wouldn't be disappointing numbers for me but for most folk they would it seems. I think that alot of people are expecting Episode 1 numbers. I'm not exactly confident in that perdiction though because Indy is a huge icon; I am confident that it won't make 400mil though, even if it get close.

TheVileOne
05-17-2008, 07:11 PM
Indy will not get $170 million. Mark my words. It's already getting some bad early reviews.

Mark my words that Iron Man will make $300 million.

Think about it. Iron Man makes $25-30 million, this weekend, right? OK, so that's about $215-220 million after the weekend is over. Figure another 4 weekdays. PLUS a holiday weekend. That will give Iron Man the boost it needs past $250 million. After which, $300 million AND MORE will be a cinch.

People said Pirates of the Carribbean wouldn't make over $300 million as it was getting closer toward that mark in 2003.

kakashi
05-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Indy will not get $170 million. Mark my words. It's already getting some bad early reviews.

Mark my words that Iron Man will make $300 million.

Think about it. Iron Man makes $25-30 million, this weekend, right? OK, so that's about $215-220 million after the weekend is over. Figure another 4 weekdays. PLUS a holiday weekend. That will give Iron Man the boost it needs past $250 million. After which, $300 million AND MORE will be a cinch.

People said Pirates of the Carribbean wouldn't make over $300 million as it was getting closer toward that mark in 2003.


Seriously?

Man, i'd be disapointed if the movie turns out to be bad afterall...it's the one movie this summer i cannot wait to see!

You know where can i find these reviews?

CaptainStacy
05-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Indy will not get $170 million. Mark my words. It's already getting some bad early reviews.

Mark my words that Iron Man will make $300 million.

Think about it. Iron Man makes $25-30 million, this weekend, right? OK, so that's about $215-220 million after the weekend is over. Figure another 4 weekdays. PLUS a holiday weekend. That will give Iron Man the boost it needs past $250 million. After which, $300 million AND MORE will be a cinch.

People said Pirates of the Carribbean wouldn't make over $300 million as it was getting closer toward that mark in 2003.

Yeah, but; you're talking another 50 million going into it's FOURTH week, in a crowded Summer box office and with an economy that's in the toilet.

I mean; i hope you're right, but i seriously doubt 300 million domestic will happen...

I SEE SPIDEY
05-17-2008, 07:25 PM
Indy will not get $170 million. Mark my words. It's already getting some bad early reviews.

I don't think that it will either but then again I didn't think that Iron Man would make this much and I didn't think that TCON:PC would open under 80mil because I bought into the hype and thought that it would be the big grosser of the summer behind Indy.

Mark my words that Iron Man will make $300 million.

Think about it. Iron Man makes $25-30 million, this weekend, right? OK, so that's about $215-220 million after the weekend is over. Figure another 4 weekdays. PLUS a holiday weekend. That will give Iron Man the boost it needs past $250 million. After which, $300 million AND MORE will be a cinch.


People said Pirates of the Carribbean wouldn't make over $300 million as it was getting closer toward that mark in 2003.It has a shot but I think that it will be a struggle.

It's funny I followed Pirates numbers very closely and knew that it would hit 300mil, I never understood what those people were talking about. Maybe I am wrong about IM. I'll crunch the numbers and get back to you. Weeks four and five are crucial, It has to hold well against Indy and not drop to hard the week after.

TheVileOne
05-17-2008, 07:48 PM
It will hold decent being a holiday weekend. That will give it another $20 million or so.

terry78
05-17-2008, 07:52 PM
I'm actually predicting that Marvel Studios is the big winner this summer. Even with fanboys saying no one will go see Hulk, I suspect otherwise.

TheVileOne
05-17-2008, 07:55 PM
Yeah, but; you're talking another 50 million going into it's FOURTH week, in a crowded Summer box office and with an economy that's in the toilet.

That's not a problem. It could even be less than $50 million depending on Memorial Day. Weekdays plus subsequent weekends it will make $300 million. Don't you get it, this movie has the best word of mouth of any movie out right now. The weekend drops are amazing.

Paramount/Marvel will probably pay the theatres more to keep it on screens longer so it will keep making money.

I mean; i hope you're right, but i seriously doubt 300 million domestic will happen...

It will happen.

explode7
05-17-2008, 08:04 PM
It's really a sad day for movies if Narnia only made that amount opening day. I mean what would be the outcome for movies comming out this year with a faaar less broader audience than narnia? Say like The Dark Knight, TIH etc...

kedrell
05-17-2008, 08:06 PM
People need to stop underestimating it already. It might've been OK two months.

But the movie is THE movie of the summer right now. It's like Spider-man 6 years ago.

$300 million here we come. Kedrell, prepare yourself.

Did you think it was right when Speed Racer made less than What Happens in Vegas and Iron Man was still #1?

Iron Man - $300 million club. Its going to happen Kedrell. You can't stop it.

Huh? I've been onboard for the 300M gross domestic since before the second weekend. Of course it'll make 300M. You said 350M, which is the number I called into question.

TheVileOne
05-17-2008, 08:27 PM
I made the bet on $300 million :p .

I SEE SPIDEY
05-17-2008, 11:32 PM
I'm actually predicting that Marvel Studios is the big winner this summer. Even with fanboys saying no one will go see Hulk, I suspect otherwise.It has nothing to do with fanboyism, the first movie was hated and came out only five years ago. Despite what the studio says it kinda looks like a sequel. I'm not saying that it is, I'm saying that it looks like one. I try not to let baises get in the way of my boxoffice predictions. For instance I felt that Narnia looked lame as hell but I still thought that it would open to 95mil. I think that Indy 4 looks bad but I still think that it will make a crap load of money. I'm not in love with the direction Batman is going but I still believe the movie will make a crap load of money. I hate Mike Myers movies but I still believe that The Love Guru has a great shot at making well over 100mil.

If I honestly believed that TIH was going to open to 90mil and close with 270mil I would predict that but I don't and not because I didn't like the first movie. I'm predicting that because it took Marvel 15,000years to finally start advertising for the damn thing. (I haven't seen the T.V spots on T.V but apparently they exist) I haven't heard any early word on it, which is strange for this type of film. Again the first film was hated and came out only five years ago. The release date isn't the best and again people really hated that first movie. Now ofcourse I could be wrong and the movie could make 200mil despite all of this but I always hear, "why did they make another one?" I can't get that out of my head as well as the release date and lack of confidence Marvel seems to have in it. I'm still thinking it will be lucky to make 110mil, and predicting 80-to 90mil total. I'm still thinking that it do a Tomb Raider 2. I still think that Marvel will have to "settle" for Iron Man's success. As I always say, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Docker2.0
05-17-2008, 11:53 PM
I think it could do well at the BO but how can it when there isn't being marketing NOWHERE like IM was. You seen IM toys, commercials, trailers, all kind of things. With the Hulk you see a trailer that I've honestly only seen online. This movie comes out in less than a month but where's the Hulk teasers and hype on tv? I just don't see it. I can see it bombing but I can also see it being a sleeper hit and bringing in at the most $170M which would be a miracle. Marvel just has to get their act together with this movie. But like Terry said, despite what fanboys say, they will go and see this movie regardless. It's just it could be so much better if they marketed it better.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 12:13 AM
I'm not seeing it unless I get free tickets or decide to sneak into it. I'm sure that most other fanboys will but that won't make the movie a hit.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 12:47 AM
I've seen the Hulk trailers with other big movies. I don't think that's going to hurt it too much.

Look, Marvel Studios put everything into Iron Man for this summer, and it was a smart move. It paid off big time. Iron Man had much greater potential as a movie franchise since it doesn't have the baggage of the Hulk.

The Hulk, it took too long to get that first trailer out. There probably should've been a teaser or something in the months before hand just to let people know its coming.

I think Hulk has a nice chance, but it just depends. Sometimes you never know. Since I first saw the first trailer for Speed Racer, I figured it would be audience repellant.

I had no idea though that Iron Man would be as big and popular as it ended up being though. That caught me totally by surprise.

Tony Stark
05-18-2008, 01:16 AM
Narnia isn't going to suddenly make 80mil this weekend. It's opening is a disppointment. Just last weekend the SpeedRacer fans said that it would pick up huge over the weekend and it didn't. I'm not saying that the same thing is going to happen to Narnia necessarily and the opening is hardly flops-ville but it is/will be disappointing. Even if it goes up 50percent on saturday and drops 27% on sunday it still would open to only five more mil than the first one and undoubtedly be a slight down tick in ticketsales. Sequels like this need to open to much more than their predecessors because the legs will always be far worse. All that being said it's highly unlikely to go up that much on saturday, right now I'd look for a at best 20% increase on saturday and a 28% decrease on sunday leaving it with 59mil. I think that it has a good shot at 60mil but it needed to open with atleast 80mil to justify the cost and hype.

Good to see that my Iron Man range panned out. I actually had it at 8.8mil, hopefully the actuals go up from the estimates and not down.



I disagree on your overall assesment. I'm not saying it's going to make 80 million, then again, I never predicted that. It's doing about the same as the first movie, though it might open slightly lower.

As I said, you're not going to see that big of a decrease on Sunday. In fact I'll wager when the actuals come in on monday, Sunday and Friday will be about the same, and I think Saturday will be it's big day. My original prediction was 65-70, and I think it still has a chance to hit 60-65.

Ironfan72
05-18-2008, 08:09 AM
I went and saw Iron Man again yesterday with my family at the 11 am showing, only expected maybe 10 people, there were 50 people in the theater and all were very enthusiatic.
I know 50 doesn't sound like alot, but for a early showing on a Saturday during it's third weekend, that was pretty good.

Sentinel X
05-18-2008, 10:02 AM
When I saw it , it was packed as well! Some people were sitting on the floor!
Its a great movie 8.7/10 imo. Can't wait for Iron Man 2!
And I hope it does cross 300 million...I have a feeling it will. This is this years Transformers.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 10:03 AM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=70105&sid=68cea97c48427985c98d44a6062159f1

Saturday estimates out from Fantasy Mogul on the BOM forums.

But basically - estimated $13 million(!) for Iron Man on Saturday. And only $20 million(!) for Narnia on Saturday. Narnia did not get the bigger push it needed on Saturday to offset its unimpressive opening day.

Narnia could be in big trouble now.

So enough of all this tracking nonsense. All the tracking that has Narnia at $80 million, or Indy 4 at $160-170 million in 4 days. It's not going to happen. Iron Man will PWN them all.

And people still think Iron Man can't make $300 million. Iron Man could be as high as $225 million by Monday. It could be up to $260 million after Memorial Day. YOU CANNOT STOP THE $300+ million train for Iron Man.

When the smoke clears, Iron Man will be the biggest winner of the summer.

Marvin
05-18-2008, 10:03 AM
^^cool avatar (ironfan72)

movie didn't look like that tho...

friend and i found ourself in the theater last night
nothing interested us so ya, it was all about iron man again

Docker2.0
05-18-2008, 10:07 AM
What movie are you talking about???? :huh:

CaptainStacy
05-18-2008, 10:08 AM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=70105&sid=68cea97c48427985c98d44a6062159f1

Saturday estimates out from Fantasy Mogul on the BOM forums.

But basically - estimated $13 million(!) for Iron Man on Saturday. And only $20 million(!) for Narnia on Saturday. Narnia did not get the bigger push it needed on Saturday to offset its unimpressive opening day.

Narnia could be in big trouble now.

So enough of all this tracking nonsense. All the tracking that has Narnia at $80 million, or Indy 4 at $160-170 million in 4 days. It's not going to happen. Iron Man will PWN them all.

And people still think Iron Man can't make $300 million. Iron Man could be as high as $225 million by Monday. It could be up to $260 million after Memorial Day. YOU CANNOT STOP THE $300+ million train for Iron Man.

When the smoke clears, Iron Man will be the biggest winner of the summer.


Im starting to believe it! :wow:

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 10:14 AM
It's like I said. Iron Man is the movie of the summer right now like Spider-man in 2002. It's got the critical support behind it. It's got the fan support. And it's got the excellent word of mouth from general moviegoers. It's that simple. We knew the third weekend drop would be smaller, since it typically is for this type of movie.

And once again, Memorial Day is coming. No matter what Narnia and/or Indy do, its still Memorial Day weekend and it gives all the movies a nice boost. So it won't destroy Iron Man's #'s.

My guess is Paramount and Marvel will also persuade theatres to keep in Iron Man longer because they see the $300 million potential as well. They want their names attached to a nice number like that. And plus, the theatres will probably want to keep it in longer a little bit, since Iron Man from all accounts is still drawing good repeat business. Someone on the forums talked about how exhibitors are still keeping Iron Man on the bigger screen, even over the new movies.

Iron Man has weathered every storm. It weathered the uncertainty storm. It weathered the Speed Racer storm. And it's now weathering the Narnia storm.

You think Indy will be any storm in comparison to what Iron Man has already overcome? A sequel that came over 10-15 years too late? No freaking way!

CaptainStacy
05-18-2008, 10:20 AM
It's like I said. Iron Man is the movie of the summer right now like Spider-man in 2002. It's got the critical support behind it. It's got the fan support. And it's got the excellent word of mouth from general moviegoers. It's that simple. We knew the third weekend drop would be smaller, since it typically is for this type of movie.

And once again, Memorial Day is coming. No matter what Narnia and/or Indy do, its still Memorial Day weekend and it gives all the movies a nice boost. So it won't destroy Iron Man's #'s.

My guess is Paramount and Marvel will also persuade theatres to keep in Iron Man longer because they see the $300 million potential as well. They want their names attached to a nice number like that. And plus, the theatres will probably want to keep it in longer a little bit, since Iron Man from all accounts is still drawing good repeat business. Someone on the forums talked about how exhibitors are still keeping Iron Man on the bigger screen, even over the new movies.


It's true. Took my wife to see it Friday, and not only was it still on a big screen, the theater was about 3/4 full, despite it being Narnia's opening night. Interestingly; it was still playing in three auditoriums, and Speed Racer, which opened a week AFTER Iron Man, was only showing in two. :word:

DBZ2cool
05-18-2008, 10:21 AM
Go Marvel and Iron Man.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 10:23 AM
Iron Man has the legs to carry it to $300 million and more. Oldie Indy doesn't stand a chance. The scrubs saying Indy will kill Iron Man need to get lost.

Docker2.0
05-18-2008, 10:24 AM
I honestly believe Indy will not make as much as people say it will. I'm not saying it's goign to be a flop but the appeal it had 20 years ago isn't there. Dont' get me wrong, it will make money but it won't do Spidey numbers as so many expect. I also think Narnia will bounce back next weekend when churches preach more to their members to go and see it.

Excel
05-18-2008, 10:25 AM
It's like I said. Iron Man is the movie of the summer right now like Spider-man in 2002. It's got the critical support behind it. It's got the fan support. And it's got the excellent word of mouth from general moviegoers. It's that simple. We knew the third weekend drop would be smaller, since it typically is for this type of movie.

And once again, Memorial Day is coming. No matter what Narnia and/or Indy do, its still Memorial Day weekend and it gives all the movies a nice boost. So it won't destroy Iron Man's #'s.

My guess is Paramount and Marvel will also persuade theatres to keep in Iron Man longer because they see the $300 million potential as well. They want their names attached to a nice number like that. And plus, the theatres will probably want to keep it in longer a little bit, since Iron Man from all accounts is still drawing good repeat business. Someone on the forums talked about how exhibitors are still keeping Iron Man on the bigger screen, even over the new movies.

Iron Man has weathered every storm. It weathered the uncertainty storm. It weathered the Speed Racer storm. And it's now weathering the Narnia storm.

You think Indy will be any storm in comparison to what Iron Man has already overcome? A sequel that came over 10-15 years too late? No freaking way!

I think Indy will be quite a monster. Iron Man's 4 day drop will be a bout a 33-35% decrease from this weekend.

That 13 number seems a bit big; wait for actuals on Mojo later.

Dissapointments or flops help the films out around them, but the films they reallly help are the biggies a month or so away. Hancock, Tdk, Mummy, theyll benefit from this more than Indy or Iron Man.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 10:26 AM
Lol, maybe and maybe not. I don't think Narnia is a bad film at all for one. I just think some of the performances and parts of the movie are a little weak. Just a very average movie to me despite some impressive battle sequences, make-up FX, etc.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 10:28 AM
I think Indy will be quite a monster. Iron Man's 4 day drop will be a bout a 33-35% decrease from this weekend.

I like Indy too . . . but it won't be the monster you think. George Lucas will be once again upset by the Marvel super hero movie.


That 13 number seems a bit big; wait for actuals on Mojo later.

Even if its an overestimate which it probably is, this still bodes very well for Iron Man's third weekend. And it will still get $300 million.

Excel
05-18-2008, 10:33 AM
I like Indy too . . . but it won't be the monster you think.

I think the very least itll do for it's 5 day opening is 150 milion. That would guarentee a 300 million total. The prob. is a lot of theaters will pulling Iron Mans screens to give to Indy while having a few for Narnia, and that Indy and Iron Mna have the exact same audience demos. If the families and older folks who have been seeing Iron Man abandon it for Indy next weekend, its in for a huge hit. I dont think itll be too big, I'd guess -41-43% for the weekend and 33-35% for the 4 day.

Even if its an overestimate which it probably is, this still bodes very well for Iron Man's third weekend. And it will still get $300 million.

Of course it does, and I dont see how IM doesnt get 300 million at this point. Its already running ahead from Spidey 3 in it's run.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 10:44 AM
http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

$56 million for Narnia, what an embarrassment.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 11:08 AM
I should have stuck to my freakin guns, the only reason I went with that 20perecent bump thing is because of the "it's childrens movie" people! The first one didn't even go up that much saturday in the winter. I need to start listening to myself more and stop letting people get into my head. The movie was a disappointment on day one and memoral day will not save it, it will not make anywhere near the first one because it's legs will be much worse. As I said before the first movie had a holliday aided 4.5 multiplier, the best case scenerio is the this movie will have a 3.5 multiplier, if it gets that it still only makes (with this estimate) 198.1mil. 90+ millions less than the first one. People just need to except that this movie is a disappointment.

I think that that the actual IM saturday estimate will be closer to 12.7-12.9mil.

GO IRON MAN!! 300mil is looking more and more likely when I think about it.

kedrell
05-18-2008, 11:15 AM
I'm not seeing it unless I get free tickets or decide to sneak into it. I'm sure that most other fanboys will but that won't make the movie a hit.

That's pretty much where I'm at in regards to the next X-Men, Spidey or Superman films. I'll pay for Hulk though.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 11:25 AM
Mojo has the weekend estimates.



31.2 mil for IM. A 39percent drop.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2008&wknd=20&p=.htm

And Prince Caspian opened disappointingly and SpeedRacer didn't have legs or good word dropping a huge 59%.

Docker2.0
05-18-2008, 11:40 AM
IM did better than I thought and Speed Racer is officially a bomb! I'm so happy! This makes up for WB not giving me that GL pic! :mad:

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 11:52 AM
IM did better than I thought too, I had it at 28mil. Great numbers for it, people actually like it and love it or hate it, Iron Man had what people want to see in a comicbook movie just like Spider-Man had it (until the third one, which still made a boatload but had poor word of mouth that will hurt the fourth movie) and X-Men had it. I hope the company behind SpeedRacer is paying attention.

explode7
05-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Looks like Narnia might bomb overall. You know what that means guys? No more narnia in 2010 meaning no competition for Iron Man 2. :hehe: Sounds good to me.

Raiden
05-18-2008, 12:13 PM
Mojo has the weekend estimates.



31.2 mil for IM. A 39percent drop.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2008&wknd=20&p=.htm

And Prince Caspian opened disappointingly and SpeedRacer didn't have legs or good word dropping a huge 59%.

39% drop? That's awesome! IM has sturdy legs. :word:

CaptainStacy
05-18-2008, 12:49 PM
IM did better than I thought too, I had it at 28mil. Great numbers for it, people actually like it and love it or hate it, Iron Man had what people want to see in a comicbook movie just like Spider-Man had it (until the third one, which still made a boatload but had poor word of mouth that will hurt the fourth movie) and X-Men had it. I hope the company behind SpeedRacer is paying attention.

I had IM at 20 million. Glad to see i was wrong. :yay:

CaptainStacy
05-18-2008, 12:51 PM
Looks like Narnia might bomb overall. You know what that means guys? No more narnia in 2010 meaning no competition for Iron Man 2. :hehe: Sounds good to me.

If there is i bet even Iron Man's second weekend in 2010 could kick butt all over Narnia's opening weekend.

Disney better recognize. :word: :im:

ultimatefan
05-18-2008, 01:05 PM
At this point, 250m-270m is a lock for IM and it has a shot at 300m.

Speed Racer sank like a rock. Itīs officially the first big time bomb of the summer. I feel sorry for the cast, they deserve better than that. The Wachovskis will have to work hard to overcome the one-trick pony reputation.

Iīm surprised by the low opening for the second Narnia, even though I never thought much of the first. But then again, I hear the second book is considered weaker than the first too.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 01:15 PM
275mil is a lock IMHO, unless something strange happens, like the movie drops theaters quickly and does a nose dive. Hell I think that 285mil is a lock now. Next weekend and after that will tell us exactly where it's headed.

On another note I hope the movie doesn't do another nose dive internationally. I did not like those numbers last weekend.

YJ1
05-18-2008, 01:17 PM
Looks like Narnia might bomb overall. You know what that means guys? No more narnia in 2010 meaning no competition for Iron Man 2. :hehe: Sounds good to me.

Narnia will clean up overseas. The 2010 sequel is guaranteed for Narnia, don't even get your hopes up.

Iceman
05-18-2008, 01:21 PM
8th highest 3rd weekend:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/moreweekends.htm?page=3&p=.htm

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 01:27 PM
Narnia will clean up overseas. The 2010 sequel is guaranteed for Narnia, don't even get your hopes up.

I expect to see a sequel but it aint coming out in the summer. This isn't a SpeedRacer situation, the movie isn't a mega bomb with no chance for a sequel. It's a disappointing opening and will not come close to reaching the first one's domestic gross but it will make a crapload overseas, even more than Iron Man I'd guess.

ultimatefan
05-18-2008, 01:33 PM
Yeah, itīs a funny reversal, superhero movies usually perform much better in US than overseas, with those fantasy epics itīs often the other way around.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 01:51 PM
Of the moderen Superhero flicks Spider-Man 1,2 and 3 are the only true mega performers internationally, they all made over 400mil with the last one making over 500mil. The X-Men movies never hit it too big although the 3rd one made quite a bit, it still made under 250mil. Batman Begins (166.5mil) did less than Fantastic Four (175.4mil) despite outgrossing it by 50mil in the U.S because SFX heavy movies always do better internationally. Superman only did 191mil despite being Superman and using SFX because there waren't enough money shots, and yes that means a city destorying Supervillain fight. I believe that if FF was of Spider-Man 1 and 2 and IM quality is would have made serious bank internationally but alas it wasn't.

It's going to be interesting to see if IM can make it to 300mil internationally, if it does it will be in very exclusive company because no other movie besides the Spider-Man movie have made that much.

Sardaukar
05-18-2008, 01:53 PM
Iīm surprised by the low opening for the second Narnia, even though I never thought much of the first. But then again, I hear the second book is considered weaker than the first too.

Well, in all fairness, pretty much all the Narnia books after Wardrobe aren't quite as good. But they're still great. I'm a fan of the series.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 01:57 PM
According to Variety. Iron Man is still strong overseas.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117986014.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

It's up to 206mil after making 25.6mil.

JP
05-18-2008, 02:11 PM
This movie is a friggin' juggernaut.

CaptainStacy
05-18-2008, 02:13 PM
According to Variety. Iron Man is still strong overseas.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117986014.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

It's up to 206mil after making 25.6mil.

So what's the grand total WW? Over 400 million?

Tony Stark
05-18-2008, 02:19 PM
Well, in all fairness, pretty much all the Narnia books after Wardrobe aren't quite as good. But they're still great. I'm a fan of the series.

Agreed, it's hard to top Wardrobe. However I loved this film, and IMO it's better than anything that came out last summer, I don't care how much money it makes.

Tony Stark
05-18-2008, 02:23 PM
300 million is pretty much in the bag for IM at this point. The bar has been set, and based on high fuel prices and the crowded field of films this summer, it's going to be hard for any film to top it's numbers. Indy 4 will be a good indicator, but if it gets negative review that may kill it at the BO. Still Indy is going to be a 250 million dollar movie even if it's the biggest piece of crap put to film, the question is how it and other upcoming releases perform against this film.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 02:30 PM
So what's the grand total WW? Over 400 million?According to estimates, 428.5mil. Yes, lets say that aloud 428.5mil for an Iron Man movie.... after three weeks...wow.

CaptainStacy
05-18-2008, 02:36 PM
According to estimates, 428.5mil. Yes, lets say that aloud 428.5mil for an Iron Man movie.... after three weeks...wow.

Amazing. a relatively unknown comicbook character just clobbered Batman Begins and Superman Returns, two worldwide ICONS, at the box office. :word:

Figs
05-18-2008, 02:39 PM
According to Variety. Iron Man is still strong overseas.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117986014.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

It's up to 206mil after making 25.6mil.


I don't know if this is true but I heard it doesn't open up in Japan for a few months still.

Can anyone confirm or debunk this?

Amazing. a relatively unknown comicbook character just clobbered Batman Begins and Superman Returns, two worldwide ICONS, at the box office.


The great thing about that is? With the numbers Iron Man is pulling in I think it's safe to say he's definitely a big character now in the publics eye. If Favreau steps it up bigtime for the sequel(which I'm sure he will) that movie could own all.

Spider-Vader
05-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Is Narnia #1? By the sounds of your post it sounds like it's bombing or is it just under-performing. Doesn't surprise me, there wasn't alot of marketing for Narnia.

Indy is going to destroy IM, Narnia & the next week Sex & the City, of course IM & Narnia will destroy that too.

I don't think Hulk will bomb, people will see it opening because of IM. If it gets good reviews & word of mouth it should be succesful, not IM or S-M good but X-Men.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Amazing. a relatively unknown comicbook character just clobbered Batman Begins and Superman Returns, two worldwide ICONS, at the box office. :word:Amazing indeed. To be fair BB had the last movie to deal with and a very unknown villain. SR could have been doing simular numbers to these but WB decided to make, love it or hate it, a Superhero drama. Pirates or no Pirates it would have been a hit if it weren't so serious and featured a Supervillain, but i'm not going to get too much into that I'm just going to celebrate Iron Man's triumph.

And I do believe that it hasn't been released in Japan yet.

GekigangerV
05-18-2008, 03:27 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=ironman.htm

According to this it won't be out in Japan until 9/3.

Figs
05-18-2008, 03:31 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=ironman.htm

According to this it won't be out in Japan until 9/3.


Thanks for the reply.

That's even some more $$$ right there.:word:

Negrotigre
05-18-2008, 03:34 PM
Looks like Narnia might bomb overall. You know what that means guys? No more narnia in 2010 meaning no competition for Iron Man 2. :hehe: Sounds good to me.


Almost sixty million opening a bomb?

Tony Stark
05-18-2008, 03:35 PM
Is Narnia #1? By the sounds of your post it sounds like it's bombing or is it just under-performing. Doesn't surprise me, there wasn't alot of marketing for Narnia.

Indy is going to destroy IM, Narnia & the next week Sex & the City, of course IM & Narnia will destroy that too.

I don't think Hulk will bomb, people will see it opening because of IM. If it gets good reviews & word of mouth it should be succesful, not IM or S-M good but X-Men.

Some sites showed tracking at 80 million. I seriously question any data that would have that big of a discrepency. That's off by 30%, as an engineer if I had calculations off by 30% I'd be out of a job. I think most of these BO predictors talk out their rear.

I don't think Narnia is a flop, but it's first weekend is about 9 million bellow the first film if the estimates are correct. I have a feeling those numbers will go up for Narnia and end up with 57 or 58 million, still behind the original film.

As far as Indy, the only thing that will kill it is bad reviews. If Lucas pulled off another "Phantom Menace", the movie will make money but it won't beat Iron Man. If it's as good as we all hope it will be, it could well surpass Iron Man and will probably be the top grossing film of the year. We'll have to wait and see.

Negrotigre
05-18-2008, 03:40 PM
Agreed, it's hard to top Wardrobe. However I loved this film, and IMO it's better than anything that came out last summer, I don't care how much money it makes.


I've seen Caspian two times and on both occasions the fan resposne was very strong. I personally loved the movie as I do the books. This movie will not bomb, but it may not make the $300 mill domestic the first one made either. Intereting to see what word of mouth does for this in the following weeks. I have a suspicion that Iron Man may end up being the year's biggest movie. I peaked into two showings of it yesterday and both were packed. Amazing!

Cmill216
05-18-2008, 04:08 PM
Narnia definitely underperformed in its opening, and it won't touch Wardrobe's final gross. So I would consider that a disappointment.

As for Iron Man.....wow. $300 million is a near lock now.

Theweepeople
05-18-2008, 04:18 PM
As far as Indy, the only thing that will kill it is bad reviews. If Lucas pulled off another "Phantom Menace", the movie will make money but it won't beat Iron Man. If it's as good as we all hope it will be, it could well surpass Iron Man and will probably be the top grossing film of the year. We'll have to wait and see.

The crystal Skull is not directed by Lucas so we don't have to worry about this to be cheesy like the Phantom Menace.

Hiruu
05-18-2008, 06:13 PM
Almost sixty million opening a bomb?

It's based on expectations, but Bomb would be FAR TOO STRONG a word to describe the movies perfromance...more a strong disappointment. I think looking at the tough summer competition, this movie is going to struggle to get much past $200 million...maybe around $210-215 if it has strong holds. The problem is this:

Indy Jones - 5/22
Kung Fu Panda - 6/6
Zohan - 6/6
Hulk - 6/13
The Happening - 6/13

That's going to be some tough competition to hold audiences over, and theathers as well...fourtunately for Prince Caspian, Speed Racer bombed HARD (worst in a LONGTIME), and reduced the competition, but it's not getting any easier.

Iron Man might be the top genre movie of the summer (Sorry DK and others, but $300 is tough to reach) and there too much competition from others...Hancock still has a shot, because it's Will smith, but...

Compi716
05-18-2008, 06:30 PM
I still have a feeling that Indy will underperform. I can't wait for it, but I have a visceral instinct...

kedrell
05-18-2008, 06:49 PM
Well IJ4 is at 77% on RT right now. It was at 60% for awhile though. IM never dipped that far. I think the lowest IM dipped was 73% and it quickly rebounded. IJ4 will be lucky to get into the 80's and the 90's are almost out of the question.

kedrell
05-18-2008, 06:52 PM
And IM should be able to pull 25-40M extra from Japan alone for it's WW gross so it basically needs another 60-70M OS from the rest of the countries to cross 300M OS. 600M WW here we come baby!

turtlefocker
05-18-2008, 06:58 PM
I still have a feeling that Indy will underperform. I can't wait for it, but I have a visceral instinct...

Me to. I'd like it to make IM type numbers or more but just don't think it's gonna happen

ultimatefan
05-18-2008, 06:59 PM
Amazing. a relatively unknown comicbook character just clobbered Batman Begins and Superman Returns, two worldwide ICONS, at the box office. :word:

And itīs also about to clobber all X-Men movies, and has also clobbered both Fantastic Four movies, and the first Hulk movie, all better-known Marvel characters than IM.

S.A.A.D.
05-18-2008, 07:05 PM
^Damn,I forgot about the other Marvel movies...

S.A.A.D.
05-18-2008, 07:06 PM
When it doe's,we can say SUPERIOR ATTACK!

fu manchu
05-18-2008, 07:26 PM
Geez, I was hoping Iron Man would be #1 for 3 weeks. oh well, it still made over 30 million this weekend.

Weadazoid
05-18-2008, 07:36 PM
Speed racer is the worst bomb since Posiedon, another WB may disaster

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 08:17 PM
Any non-believers in $300 million still?

Who else wants to join the $300 million club now?

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 08:18 PM
To put things in perspective, Iron Man will be at $230 million before Memorial Day weekend. What's that mean? It will be over $250 million after Memorial Day weekend. Then all it will need is less than $50 million to get to $300 million.

It will happen.

S.A.A.D.
05-18-2008, 08:22 PM
To put things in perspective, Iron Man will be at $230 million before Memorial Day weekend. What's that mean? It will be over $250 million after Memorial Day weekend. Then all it will need is less than $50 million to get to $300 million.

It will happen.

Mark my words,when tomorrow rolls around,Iron Man won't have made 250$ million domestically at the box office yet. I still hope I am wrong though,I still doubt Iron Man will make 300$ domestically. Would anyone like to guess how much Iron Man will bring in internationally tomorrow? Those international numbers bug me alot.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 08:39 PM
Mark my words,when tomorrow rolls around,Iron Man won't have made 250$ million domestically at the box office yet. I still hope I am wrong though,I still doubt Iron Man will make 300$ domestically. Would anyone like to guess how much Iron Man will bring in internationally tomorrow? Those international numbers bug me alot.

Of course it won't. It will be after Memorial Day weekend. What are you talking about?

FlawlessVictory
05-18-2008, 08:47 PM
Impressive BO over the weekend. Lets go after that Titanic domestic record! :hehe:

SLYspyder
05-18-2008, 08:47 PM
Iron Man is really lucky. Thanks to Speed Racer bombing and Narnia underperforming, it'll get close to $300M, but I don't think it'll quite make it.

Spider-Man made $70M more after Memorial day weekend, but Spider-Man had longer legs. Iron Man would need to make $50M more after Memorial to get to $300M range.

$40M to Spidey's $70M is a good comparison, but that won't be enough for $300M.

Either way, for it's first outing, it's an amazing box office that shows studios will be rewarded when they make movies right and invest the right amount of money.

Spider-Vader
05-18-2008, 08:48 PM
I'm really surprised that this almost unknown character is doing so well. I feel IM may become Marvel's new poster boy.

S.A.A.D.
05-18-2008, 08:49 PM
Of course it won't. It will be after Memorial Day weekend. What are you talking about?

Oops,My bad. :o
I think with Japan bringing in the final international numbers that is safe to say Iron Man will be making 500$ million world wide for sure IMO.

CaptainStacy
05-18-2008, 08:51 PM
^Damn,I forgot about the other Marvel movies...

Same here. Is it safe to say IM is now the #2 franchise at Marvel?

S.A.A.D.
05-18-2008, 08:54 PM
Same here. Is it safe to say IM is now the #2 franchise at Marvel?

At this point,IMO yes,even though X-Men has had a trilogy.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 08:57 PM
Iron Man is the Spider-man of this year.

explode7
05-18-2008, 08:59 PM
Remember guys if IM makes 300M domestic and 350 M overseas for a total of 650M worldwide I called it. It's time to rub it in those people faces who were all laughing like a bunch of hyenas when I mentioned that prediction over the past few months. :cmad:

S.A.A.D.
05-18-2008, 09:04 PM
Iron Man is the Spider-man of this year.

Indeed.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 09:08 PM
I want to know who still thinks it can't make $300 after I've carefully been laying out the math regularly.

The Chris
05-18-2008, 09:11 PM
There is no way this movie will not make 300 million. 9 movies in history have made more in its opening weekend than Iron Man, and only two didn't go over 300. One (X3), sucked. Iron Man has killer W.O.M. Paramount's gonna have a good year.

Docker2.0
05-18-2008, 09:41 PM
I say it won't make $300M! :cmad: $280M tops!

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 09:49 PM
You are wrong Docker. Iron Man is going to destroy old @$$ Indy.

Raiden
05-18-2008, 10:18 PM
I say it won't make $300M! :cmad: $280M tops!

:cmad:

Tony Stark
05-18-2008, 11:06 PM
I say it won't make $300M! :cmad: $280M tops!

You gotta be kidding! It's going to be over 250 million by next Monday, and it's probably going to run for at least another month. It won't be much over 300 million but it will get there.

SLYspyder
05-18-2008, 11:06 PM
I want to know who still thinks it can't make $300 after I've carefully been laying out the math regularly.

Read my last post on the previous page

DownAztlan
05-18-2008, 11:28 PM
Iron Man is really lucky. Thanks to Speed Racer bombing and Narnia underperforming, it'll get close to $300M, but I don't think it'll quite make it.



Ever think that those movies might be underperforming BECAUSE of
Iron Man? :cwink:

Hiruu
05-18-2008, 11:28 PM
Iron Man stands a strong shot at finishing in the top 3 of this year...c'mon...with the competitive nature of the current season, it's hard to say any film is going to cruise to a top 3 finish...looks at last year...4 films crossed, but 3 were sequels...and the current years has more competition imho. It's going to be hard for films to get to that mark, and given the VERY strong holds for Iron Man week over week...I see this film cruising to $310 million, and a top 3 finish. I think Hulk finishes with $250+ ($256 million is in my head for some reason), and that would be HUGE for Marvel and for the Hulk's next film, which would also be in 2010, I would imagine.

TheVileOne
05-18-2008, 11:33 PM
Read my last post on the previous page
It will need LESS than $50 million after Memorial Day.

Hiruu
05-18-2008, 11:42 PM
It will need LESS than $50 million after Memorial Day.

Your numbers look good...infact...with the slight drops we've seen...they might be a bit conservative.

Docker2.0
05-18-2008, 11:59 PM
I want it to make $300M but it won't. If it does I'm willing to walk around SHH naked. :o

Raiden
05-19-2008, 12:00 AM
If IM can still do this well in its 3rd week, its safe to say that IM will do well over the Memorial Day weekend, and 300 million is a safe bet. Indy 4 will make alot of money as well, but after 18 years of absence, I think it can't help against very high expectation, and will likely to perform below estimation.

Raiden
05-19-2008, 12:01 AM
I want it to make $300M but it won't. If it does I'm willing to walk around SHH naked. :o

Wow, you are that confident about IM not making 300 mil? :hehe:

NoirMan82
05-19-2008, 12:04 AM
Ever think that those movies might be underperforming BECAUSE of
Iron Man? :cwink:

Dude, that's what I said to my GF tonight. Iron Mans gross from each weekend is more than what most movies gross total. That's not including the overseas take. IM totally butt-raped Speed Racer and mugged Narnia. I think IM will take another 20 million. Over the next week easy.

StylishHokie21
05-19-2008, 12:17 AM
Iron Man continues to dominate the box office! $428 million worldwide already? :yay:

TheVileOne
05-19-2008, 12:22 AM
Sig bet Docker.

If Iron Man makes $300 million, you must use a sig of my choosing for 3 months. If it doesn't, you win and I would have to do the same.

Mister J
05-19-2008, 12:26 AM
It's good to see this movie keep rolling. I usually disinterest myself from the box office because so much trash winds up performing successfully, thus eliciting more trash. However, I've enjoyed seeing Iron Man prosper, as I was pleased with near every step of the process as it was revealed to us.

Prior to that monster opening weekend, I figured this thing to top out at 220M, but 300M seems near a lock. Amazing.

TheVileOne
05-19-2008, 12:29 AM
I wonder if what's happening with this month will be indicative of the summer as a whole. A lot of the biggest sequels and movies underperforming, and Iron Man REIGNING supreme and pwning them all.

Raiden
05-19-2008, 12:54 AM
I'm pretty sure studio execs are falling down from their high chairs after the unexpected success of IM, and the bombing of SR as well as underwhelming opening of Narnia. Prior to May, many people assume IM would do okay, SR would soar and Narnia would have 80-100 mil opening.