Iron Man BO thread

[Docker2.0]

Agreed! I think X-Files will open up to around $60-70M. Don't have a clue to the final tally though.

[JP]

X-Files has a large following.

[THOR]

I disagree. I don't see the X-Files making $100M domestic total, even though I will be seeing it! :)

[Docker2.0]

We'll see! Like JP said, the following for X-files is huge and it wouldn't surprise me if it hit $100M.
On a bad note, just read on the front page about TDK's record weekend. Congrads to Nolan and comp, but the batfans are ridiculous with their statements! This is like WB's most successful hero franchise in decades now they have to bash every Marvel movie now. :whatever: What a bunch of idiots! If it wasn't for the success of the Marvel movies, TDK wouldn't have even been made.

[Ironfan72]

We'll see! Like JP said, the following for X-files is huge and it wouldn't surprise me if it hit $100M.
On a bad note, just read on the front page about TDK's record weekend. Congrads to Nolan and comp, but the batfans are ridiculous with their statements! This is like WB's most successful hero franchise in decades now they have to bash every Marvel movie now. :whatever: What a bunch of idiots! If it wasn't for the success of the Marvel movies, TDK wouldn't have even been made.


I have to agree, it seems the Batfans have a big problem with Iron Man in particular, many on other boards going out of there way to bash everything Iron Man, mostly all childish comments, but I've been hearing negative Iron Man comments by DC people since before the movie opened, it quited down alot when Iron Man hit and was so successful, but the noise cranked up again the closier TDK got to opening.
They just don't want to admit that maybe people like Marvel films and they are actually very good :im:.

[Iron_Stark]

Some of them actually think it'll beat Titanic! :ikyn:lmao:

[Tony Stark]

Indy has some life & it's only 2 mil away from IM.

I mean TDK will be the highest grossing film of the year, not Iron Man. And it wouldn't suprise me if Indy did sneak past.

It's somewhat irrelevant, because for Iron Man doing that well in it's first movie is hugely successful. Iron Man had way more to overcome than Batman Begins did, because he isn't nearly as well known.

[Tony Stark]

I have to agree, it seems the Batfans have a big problem with Iron Man in particular, many on other boards going out of there way to bash everything Iron Man, mostly all childish comments, but I've been hearing negative Iron Man comments by DC people since before the movie opened, it quited down alot when Iron Man hit and was so successful, but the noise cranked up again the closier TDK got to opening.
They just don't want to admit that maybe people like Marvel films and they are actually very good :im:.

Yes most of the Batfans are idiots. I still loved TDK, and I like Batman as a character, but I hate to admit it because of them.

What I find funny is the Batfans that trash Batman '89. Without Batman '89, I don't think TDK or BB even gets made.

[Docker2.0]

Exactly! I don't know what planet they are from! It beat Spidey's opening weekend BO, its a great movie I'm not mad. But the constant bashing of IM and Spidey is ridiculous. But I guess we knew this day was coming. :o

[Badfish40oz]

Don't worry. DK's B.O. will fall too.

Look at it this way. That was ALL DC had to give. And Spiderman 3, which pretty much blew, still sold more tickets its opening weekend. Inflation, people.

That said, DK was really awesome. And Spiderman 3 is even more of an embarrassment now.

[Anita18]

Exactly! I don't know what planet they are from! It beat Spidey's opening weekend BO, its a great movie I'm not mad. But the constant bashing of IM and Spidey is ridiculous. But I guess we knew this day was coming. :o
It must be a large planet, because it's not just here. Everywhere I go to check box office numbers, everyone's rooting for TDK to beat Spidey 3. There's something about TDK that inspires fanaticism...(You won't see it from me, although I will come after you if you call Nolan a hack. :cwink: )

Don't get me wrong - I'm downright shocked TDK is doing so well. Never saw it coming in a million years, and I'm very, very pleased that it's happening. It's about time a film this well-received by critics is equally as well-received in the box office.

The gloating is just a reaction from fans regarding predictions that were extremely underestimated. Nothing against the respective movies at all, just their box office performances. :cwink:

Although Dead Men's Chest should NOT have made that much money. That film was a piece of crap. :o (I never saw Spidey 3 :oldrazz: )

[Docker2.0]

Noone underestimated TDK. :huh: I've actually seen predictions of $180M OW. Still batfans are going overboard.

[Anita18]

Noone underestimated TDK. :huh: I've actually seen predictions of $180M OW. Still batfans are going overboard.
The box office opening weekend prediction poll over in the TDK boards only went up to $149 million. :oldrazz:

I think it only started going crazy a few weeks before opening, but until then, everyone was lowballing their predictions. I thought a $70 million opening weekend with a $270 million overall take would be fantastic. :eek:

Now that the juggernaut has started, nobody knows quite when to stop. :funny: I highly, HIGHLY doubt it will beat Titanic, for one. That's just all kinds of crazy talk.

[JimB]

Some of them actually think it'll beat Titanic! :ikyn:lmao:

To think that TDK would beat Titanic's box office is pretty ridiculous. I just saw the movie and even though I liked it, I don't feel like seeing it a second time unlike IM, which I saw thrice, and TIH which I saw twice.

[Ironfan72]

I saw Iron Man 3 times, TDK, I will see once, I've seen soooooo much Batman over the last 2 decades, there is nothing new and refreshing about it, I've seen it, it was a very good movie, but curtainly not the greatest film ever, I rate #2 of comicfilms, tied between Batman Begins and Iron Man at #1 and TDK at #2.

[Ironfan72]

Although Dead Men's Chest should NOT have made that much money. That film was a piece of crap. :o (I never saw Spidey 3 :oldrazz: )[/QUOTE]

Both films where vastly over rated, Pirates could not live up to hype the previous 2 films had done , the same can be said for Spidey 3, Spider Man suffered from to many villians, Venom, Sand man and Green Goblin, while 2 villians are fine, 3 is to many for a 2 hour film, Venom should have been done over two films, not cramed into a single film, with 2 other villains.
Batman's hype comes mostly from its fans who have a very unrealistic vision of how successful the film should be, while a good film, it doesn't rank high on the greatest films of all time as some Batfans have suggested.

[Tony Stark]

Yeah it's a bit stretched to think it will Beat Titanic. Titanic was no. 1 at the box office for a record 14 weeks. It was no. 1 from the middle of December when it was released, until April 1st.

Maybe some movie will beat it, but it won't be for a long long time.

I liked TDK, but it's really not much of a superhero movie. In fact it's more of an anti-superhero movie. I think Nolan would have been happy making the film rated R, but WB probably wanted to get the teeny fanboy crowd.

I sure as hell am not taking my kids to see TDK, it's way too violent and graphic.

[Anita18]

I just saw the movie and even though I liked it, I don't feel like seeing it a second time unlike IM, which I saw thrice, and TIH which I saw twice.
It's much better the second time, trust me. Things really start to come together, and I only realized how tight the script is upon the second viewing.

Batman's hype comes mostly from its fans who have a very unrealistic vision of how successful the film should be, while a good film, it doesn't rank high on the greatest films of all time as some Batfans have suggested.
Once the box office hype has started, it's difficult to stop because the new record is being reported nationwide on the evening news. :oldrazz:

The hype, at least for us, came from our expectations of how good the movie would be, and the glowing reviews that started to trickle in certainly didn't help.

Is it one of the greatest films ever? A masterpiece, a classic? Only time will tell. We can't be the judge of that.

Is it one of my favorites? After seeing it a second time, I thought it was perfect. The Batman movie I had dreamed of my entire life. So, yes. :oldrazz: I can't speak for anyone else, just myself.

[Anita18]

I liked TDK, but it's really not much of a superhero movie. In fact it's more of an anti-superhero movie. I think Nolan would have been happy making the film rated R, but WB probably wanted to get the teeny fanboy crowd.

I sure as hell am not taking my kids to see TDK, it's way too violent and graphic.
I felt the same as you, but I'm glad it's PG-13. People need to see this.

Funnily enough, I sat next to two kids both times I saw TDK. (I dunno, I must attract them.) All of them seemed no older than 10. The first time, the kids didn't make a peep. The second time, both kids started getting physically restless near the end, but they didn't cry or give any indication that they were very traumatized by what they were seeing. It isn't overly violent or graphic (you never see contact when Joker stabs someone), but it's frightening because of the tension. Kids probably don't understand that.

Definitely depends on the kid, though. I didn't think the movie would be appropriate for ANY child under 10, but the ones that sat next to me proved me wrong.

Anyway, I think that was the reason why everyone was low-balling the box office. We all know that IM (and especially Spiderman) is more fun and thus "kid-friendly" compared to TDK.

[Raiden]

I have to agree, it seems the Batfans have a big problem with Iron Man in particular, many on other boards going out of there way to bash everything Iron Man, mostly all childish comments, but I've been hearing negative Iron Man comments by DC people since before the movie opened, it quited down alot when Iron Man hit and was so successful, but the noise cranked up again the closier TDK got to opening.
They just don't want to admit that maybe people like Marvel films and they are actually very good :im:.

I'm a Marvel fan who love IM, but I'm not afraid to praise TDK because I think it's an excellent film. I think it is silly for any Batfan to try to bash IM just to make TDK look good. IM is an excellent movie who makes alot of money at the BO, and received critical accolades. It has already proved itself, and imo nothing they said would change this fact.

[Mr. Socko]

X Files has no chance in hell of opening in first place.

Its a film no one wanted and no one cares about.

Several also said the exact same thing about Sex and the City. I can't say it'll be #1 but I certainly don't think it'll bomb.

I saw Iron Man 3 times, TDK, I will see once, I've seen soooooo much Batman over the last 2 decades, there is nothing new and refreshing about it, I've seen it, it was a very good movie, but curtainly not the greatest film ever, I rate #2 of comicfilms, tied between Batman Begins and Iron Man at #1 and TDK at #2.

The movie definitely offers something new and refreshing, I don't think you're looking close enough. As for how much Batman there has been, there has been more James Bond than Batman in the past two decades. But that says nothing of Quantum of Solace nor it's quality.

[Tony Stark]

I'm a Marvel fan who love IM, but I'm not afraid to praise TDK because I think it's an excellent film. I think it is silly for any Batfan to try to bash IM just to make TDK look good. IM is an excellent movie who makes alot of money at the BO, and received critical accolades. It has already proved itself, and imo nothing they said would change this fact.

Amen bro! Really IM made quite an accomplishment considering outside the comic world he wasn't known well until this movie.

[I Am The Knight]

Agreed! I think X-Files will open up to around $60-70M. Don't have a clue to the final tally though.

Wanna bet on that :oldrazz:

[DarthAlani]

Actually adjusted for inflation DK still beats Spidey 3. Some of you are smoking crack think X-files will open to 70 plus. It will be lucky to do 40

[vindrow]

I really liked IM because it was a good and fun movie and the IM fans didn't go overboard, but I won't see TDK at the theaters because of fantical bat fans..the ones on these and other boards and some of my friends, fo me they have basically ruined the fun of seeeing the film, and I basically can't stand hearing about TDK or Batman in general.

I am glead that it doing well since that bodes well for all superhero films, and I hope that hero films that come after this do well too, but like some have said here it doesn't matter what Batfans say about IM since it did better than anyone thought and it is not as well a known character as Bats.

[StylishHokie21]

I'm a Marvel fan who love IM, but I'm not afraid to praise TDK because I think it's an excellent film. I think it is silly for any Batfan to try to bash IM just to make TDK look good. IM is an excellent movie who makes alot of money at the BO, and received critical accolades. It has already proved itself, and imo nothing they said would change this fact.

Well said! Iron Man is a great movie. I always liked Batman more and wasn't expecting much from Iron Man, but was completely blown away. I'm glad both movies were successful and can't wait for the next installments.

[Docker2.0]

Wanna bet on that :oldrazz:
Whoa! Are you calling me out?! What do you have in mind for a bet?! :cmad:

[dragonjo8]

Don't worry. DK's B.O. will fall too.

Look at it this way. That was ALL DC had to give. And Spiderman 3, which pretty much blew, still sold more tickets its opening weekend. Inflation, people.


Ummmm....you obviously haven't seen the latest numbers. TDK has also outsold Spiderman 3, inflation or not!!!

[StylishHokie21]

Noone underestimated TDK. :huh: I've actually seen predictions of $180M OW. Still batfans are going overboard.

Yeah....a lot of people did. I recall that explode7 guy throwing these idiotic numbers. $50-55 million OW? Hilarious!

[Kargo Warrior]

Ummmm....you obviously haven't seen the latest numbers. TDK has also outsold Spiderman 3, inflation or not!!!

Yep....TDK 158.4....SP3 adjusted 158.0

[Anita18]

Yeah....a lot of people did. I recall that explode7 guy throwing these idiotic numbers. $50-55 million OW? Hilarious!
explode7 was the one claiming TIH would make more than TDK. :funny:

Ah, we miss that guy....

[Mauser9910]

Exactly! I don't know what planet they are from! It beat Spidey's opening weekend BO, its a great movie I'm not mad. But the constant bashing of IM and Spidey is ridiculous. But I guess we knew this day was coming. :o

Yup, I prepared this actually for the occasion ! ;)

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1368/devolapz8.jpg
:woot:

I'm trying not to check out the forums that much anymore since this ambiance is kind of pissing me off
I'm not even sure I'll see TDK on its opening week (mid August) here, despite it looking really good, I vividly remember the giggles of joy I heard during a screening of Batman Begins and it was pretty disturbing. :o

I'm not that sure the box office of IM may be surpassed by TDK, it looks like the SM3 pattern, huge opening and then it slowly drowns (I doubt the mutliple viewings of 2h30 of TDK, masses of hardcore fans or not).

[I Am The Knight]

Whoa! Are you calling me out?! What do you have in mind for a bet?! :cmad:

You say X-Files 2 will open to 60-70+ million, yes?

I say it will open to 25-40+ million. :yay:

If you lose you get an I Am The Knight customized sig for 2 weeks and I get to call you a "pig" again.

If you win (:whatever:) I wear your sig for 2 weeks and will have to declare my love for The Vile One.

Waddaya say, proctology boy?

[Kargo Warrior]

Yup, I prepared this actually for the occasion ! ;)

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1368/devolapz8.jpg
:woot:

I'm trying not to check out the forums that much anymore since this ambiance is kind of pissing me off
I'm not even sure I'll see TDK on its opening week (mid August) here, despite it looking really good, I vividly remember the giggles of joy I heard during a screening of Batman Begins and it was pretty disturbing. :o

I'm not that sure the box office of IM may be surpassed by TDK, it looks like the SM3 pattern, huge opening and then it slowly drowns (I doubt the mutliple viewings of 2h30 of TDK, masses of hardcore fans or not).

LOL you can not be more wrong hahaha

Spider-Man 3 first Monday 10 millions!!

TDK first Monday 24.5 millions!!!!!

It will crush IM like a bug!!

[Mauser9910]

Well, the question is how many crazy fans went to see TDK how many times ?

Why so crazy ?

[FlawlessVictory]

I'm not that sure the box office of IM may be surpassed by TDK, it looks like the SM3 pattern, huge opening and then it slowly drowns (I doubt the mutliple viewings of 2h30 of TDK, masses of hardcore fans or not).

You couldn't be more wrong. TDK, unlike SM3, is actually a quality movie. SM3 had huge dropoffs because the movie was a mess. First Monday's numbers (SM3 compared to TDK), as posted by Kargo Warrior, already indicate this.

[Downhere]

It's kind of unfair to compare the first Monday of SM3 to the first Monday of TDK considering school is out now and it wasn't at the time SM3 came out.

Anyways, I'm really happy for TDK to have the best non-holiday Monday ever. Batman has always been my second fave comic series behind X-Men, so this is great news. I'm glad we've had quality comic book movies this year with Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, and now The Dark Knight.

[metropolitanpsy]

TDK is a cash making machine, cash money thats how we do, 800 mill no problem!

plus wuts up with the tdk hate, reminds me of the state of hiphop!

TDK is our eminem!!!

[StorminNorman]

Agreed! I think X-Files will open up to around $60-70M. Don't have a clue to the final tally though.

:lmao:



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X Files 35 Mil.

[Downhere]

:lmao:



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:lmao:

X Files 35 Mil.

Unfortunately, I think it will be lucky to get that on opening weekend. Probably more like 18-25 million opening weekend. I don't think reviewers will be kind.

[Docker2.0]

TDK is a cash making machine, cash money thats how we do, 800 mill no problem!

plus wuts up with the tdk hate, reminds me of the state of hiphop!

TDK is our eminem!!!

WTF are you trying to say?! :huh: Stay in school dude! :up:

[echostation]

Only Iron Man 2 has the potential to beat TDK's box office records...

[Iron_Stark]

LOL you can not be more wrong hahaha

Spider-Man 3 first Monday 10 millions!!

TDK first Monday 24.5 millions!!!!!

It will crush IM like a bug!!

ah f*** now the guano infestation is coming over to these boards. :whatever:

[Kargo Warrior]

ah f*** now the guano infestation is coming over to these boards. :whatever:

Somebody is angry i can see :o

I have been visiting the IM forums for 2 years i just didnt felt the need to post...but when i saw that the poster thinks that IM will beat TDK it was too funny not to answer.

Just for comparison:

TDK in 4 days:182,904,796
Iron Man in 4 days: $109,053,236

It's laughable to compare them

TDK will have 300 by Sunday...that's breaking the 300 record by 6 days.
Iron Man is not making more than 315...so you tell me if you're responce was necesserry

I love IM ...this has nothing to do with anything but the facts.

[fu manchu]

so what's the current BO numbers for IM?

[Docker2.0]

ah f*** now the guano infestation is coming over to these boards. :whatever:

You act surprised. I told you after TDK, these boards would become infested with them. Just be prepared. :o

[Spider-Vader]

I don't see these azz holes in the Batman BO thread. Why do they feel the need to only post in the other boards?

[vindrow]

Somebody is angry i can see :o

I have been visiting the IM forums for 2 years i just didnt felt the need to post...but when i saw that the poster thinks that IM will beat TDK it was too funny not to answer.

Just for comparison:

TDK in 4 days:182,904,796
Iron Man in 4 days: $109,053,236

It's laughable to compare them

TDK will have 300 by Sunday...that's breaking the 300 record by 6 days.
Iron Man is not making more than 315...so you tell me if you're responce was necesserry

I love IM ...this has nothing to do with anything but the facts.


You wan't to compare the BO of Bats who has been around movie wise since 89 and is known around the world from his comics to a character that just had his first movie come out and isn't well known outside of the comic scene....yeah, that makes a lot of sense:whatever:

You want to be happy that your film (well not really your film), but WB's film is doing well, great...the fact that it is doing well ( and that IM did well) will only help other superhero films that are coming down the pike.

Also, your response really wasn't necessary either.

[Docker2.0]

Maybe if you ignore him he'd go away.............but here's hoping. :o

[nimrod]

Ow hell. Well, we all win anyway.
More Souperhero movies on the way 4 sure.

[Downhere]

Ow hell. Well, we all win anyway.
More Souperhero movies on the way 4 sure.

That's true, let's hope they continue with the quality we've had this year. IM, TIH, and TDK have all been awesome. :up:

[Docker2.0]

Exactly! I don't understand bats fans need to gloat.

[Mauser9910]

Ow hell. Well, we all win anyway.
More Souperhero movies on the way 4 sure.

Meh, no soup hero for me ! ;)

I don't know if we all win, I go watch all comic-book adaptations and I'm glad some films are good and do well at the box-office but you've got to admit that it's a big turn off when people ermh* crazies start bragging about "their" movie.
Maybe that's because WB didn't delivered enough to the DC fans that there's a need to compensate - that and the fact the Bat-fans are the craziest fans this side of Star Wars... Dunno, but looking at the boards now is unpleasant enough to see the point.

As a sidenote, with the price of tickets going up, the number of screens getting insanely huge and the screenings starting at 4AM, it's only logical that records go down very fast...

[Mauser9910]

You wan't to compare the BO of Bats who has been around movie wise since 89 and is known around the world from his comics to a character that just had his first movie come out and isn't well known outside of the comic scene....yeah, that makes a lot of sense:whatever:

You want to be happy that your film (well not really your film), but WB's film is doing well, great...the fact that it is doing well ( and that IM did well) will only help other superhero films that are coming down the pike.

Also, your response really wasn't necessary either.

Excellent point, that type of brag-holism would make sense if it was a Wonder Woman or Green Lantern movie that made 300 millions+ at the box-office.

[Iron_Stark]

Somebody is angry i can see :o

I have been visiting the IM forums for 2 years i just didnt felt the need to post...but when i saw that the poster thinks that IM will beat TDK it was too funny not to answer.

Just for comparison:

TDK in 4 days:182,904,796
Iron Man in 4 days: $109,053,236

It's laughable to compare them

TDK will have 300 by Sunday...that's breaking the 300 record by 6 days.
Iron Man is not making more than 315...so you tell me if you're responce was necesserry

I love IM ...this has nothing to do with anything but the facts.

Like I've told other annoying Guano trolls, good for Batman, I'm glad DC has ONE successful franchise.

See we still have, Punisher War Zone, Wolverine, Iron Man 2 (which should top The Dark Knight, like Iron Man topped Begins), Thor, Cap, The Avengers, Spider-Man 4 & 5, and others.

WTF does DC have? The Man of Steel, maybe? Batman 3 which Nolan and Caine said they may come back and no way in hell will be better than Dark Knight. What else? Watchmen? Yeah that'll make for one good movie, then what? What else does DC have? Not a damn thing.

Enjoy your success now, because this is probably the only one you're getting.

Marvel still wins.

[Anita18]

LOL you can not be more wrong hahaha

Spider-Man 3 first Monday 10 millions!!

TDK first Monday 24.5 millions!!!!!

It will crush IM like a bug!!
Hey man, I don't think it's the smartest thing to go onto an IM BO thread and talk like that. :o But...whatever suits you.

Exactly! I don't understand bats fans need to gloat.
I don't either, and I'm one of them. :oldrazz:

Frankly, I'm too effin' shocked to gloat. :eek:

I finally did see IM last night (had to do it before Comic Con!) and I enjoyed it a lot. It was fun and witty and I can totally see how it was successful at the box office. :yay: Hopefully the trend continues, for all comic book characters!

[FlawlessVictory]

Like I've told other annoying Guano trolls, good for Batman, I'm glad DC has ONE successful franchise. See we still have, Punisher War Zone,

Are you considering the Punisher movies to be a successful franchise? Those movies have been utter garbage and this doesn't look much better.

Wolverine,

Wolverine is a successful franchise? So you've seen the movie, and know the critical and BO response? X-Men is a successful franchise, yes, and perhaps Wolverine will be too but we have yet to see one sec of footage from the film. So to call it successful at this point is a bit premature. :o

Iron Man 2 (which should top The Dark Knight, like Iron Man topped Begins), Thor, Cap, The Avengers, Spider-Man 4 & 5, and others.

You have not seen one second of Iron Man 2 yet you already know it will be better than TDK. That is absolutely laughable. How about you at least wait for a trailer before saying such ridiculous things. The same goes with Thor, Cap, The Avengers, Ant-Man and everything else.

They can be amazing, they can be average, or they could turn out to be bad. No one knows yet, way too early too tell.

WTF does DC have? The Man of Steel, maybe?

You're right, DC, when it comes to superhero films, doesn't have much of anything, thanks to the way WB has handled their characters. Superman is an absolute joke now, and they seem to be completely clueless with the JLA movie, assembling an F-list joke of a cast.

Batman 3 which Nolan and Caine said they may come back and no way in hell will be better than Dark Knight.

It'll be tough to top that's for sure.

What else? Watchmen? Yeah that'll make for one good movie, then what? What else does DC have? Not a damn thing.

Based on the source material and seeing the trailer, I would say Watchmen has a lot of potential.

Enjoy your success now, because this is probably the only one you're getting.

Marvel still wins.

LOL, you know what? It's ok to like both Marvel and DC. Mind blowing isn't it? :wow::cwink:

[Iron_Stark]

LOL, you know what? It's ok to like both Marvel and DC. Mind blowing isn't it? :wow::cwink:

Tell that to the Guano trolls that come here, the Hulk boards and everyother board to spew thier tired as$ crap about Batman.

[Mauser9910]

Guys... I'd happily point you the Transformers "news" on the front page as another example/proof how annoying the bat-fanatics can be BUT there's also some huge TDK spoilers told there in the comments. As if the "first" crap wasn't enough...
Why ?
How ?
Don't ask me.
I just know the film isn't released everywhere yet and that major sanction should be taken against those behaving like pricks. :cmad:

Another bit of enjoyment taken away from TDK for me, thank you crazy fans...:whatever:

[FlawlessVictory]

Guys... I'd happily point you the Transformers "news" on the front page as another example/proof how annoying the bat-fanatics can be BUT there's also some huge TDK spoilers told there in the comments. As if the "first" crap wasn't enough...
Why ?
How ?
Don't ask me.
I just know the film isn't released everywhere yet and that major sanction should be taken against those behaving like pricks. :cmad:

Another bit of enjoyment taken away from TDK for me, thank you crazy fans...:whatever:

LOL, don't worry, nothing was spoiled. That comment was complete BS.

[TLH]

Well, although TDK will no doubt pass Iron Man and take the crown this year (like I said quite a few times earlier in this thread and was met with resistance), it does look like Iron Man is going to hold of Indy 4, which is great, because Iron Man definitely deserves to finish above Indy.

[nimrod]

No matter where Ironman ends, it's BO remains incredible. 300M+ is no joke. People are somehow jaded nowadays and simply see numbers and positions eg 1st, 2nd .
Ironman did 300m+. That's insane.

[Ironfan72]

I'm just happy Iron Man did extremly well, it was a critical and box hit and made enough to make a sequal and as a Iron man fan, what more can one ask for.

[FlawlessVictory]

No matter where Ironman ends, it's BO remains incredible. 300M+ is no joke. People are somehow jaded nowadays and simply see numbers and positions eg 1st, 2nd .
Ironman did 300m+. That's insane.

Agreed. Once you hit $300 mil, you're golden. :up:

[Raiden]

I think it's great to have both IM and TDK gross over 300+ million domestically. It shows Hollywood that this genre isn't gonna go away, and when even Will Smith tackles this superhero genre, it means Hollywood preceives it as a real money-maker. It can only mean more superhero movies in the future, and it's a win-win for us fans.

[Raiden]

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[Mauser9910]

LOL, don't worry, nothing was spoiled. That comment was complete BS.

Thanks, I was hoping for that. :)
It was a sad day when SHH allowed comments on news pages.:cmad:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It looks like I spoke to soon about Iron Man's demise at the hands of Indy. When I get predictions as wrong as I did with TDK and Iron Man it almost makes me want to stop predicting...lol. Iron Man and TDK being mosters should confirm to everyone now that comicbook movies are not a fad.

Iron Man has made 314mil and TDK is looking to make over 400mil. Yep, comicbook movies are fads.

[Crook]

Excellent point, that type of brag-holism would make sense if it was a Wonder Woman or Green Lantern movie that made 300 millions+ at the box-office.
Well I think it's poignant here, taking the franchise as a whole into context. A decade ago, Batman was dead in the water with no signs of life. It had seemed that only Burton's first film was as high as this character was ever going to be.

Even when Nolan rebooted the series, the film STILL didn't make a splash at the box office. No one (not even the batboards) could have predicted these numbers, so it's a shock to everyone, imo. Not in my wildest imagination would I have believed that the 6th film of this franchise would ever come near the massive hype and dough brought in by B89.

[metropolitanpsy]

bottom line iron man is a b list hero bats is an a lister, and now the bo even shows this, why must people insist on iron man being superior lol, TDK is were the cash is at!

[Raiden]

Well I think it's poignant here, taking the franchise as a whole into context. A decade ago, Batman was dead in the water with no signs of life. It had seemed that only Burton's first film was as high as this character was ever going to be.

Even when Nolan rebooted the series, the film STILL didn't make a splash at the box office. No one (not even the batboards) could have predicted these numbers, so it's a shock to everyone, imo. Not in my wildest imagination would I have believed that the 6th film of this franchise would ever come near the massive hype and dough brought in by B89.

Yeah, although everyone knows TDK will be huge, having it broke the OW record of SM3 is still a bit surprising, since it's a borderline R movie, has a long running time, and is the sixth movie of Batman (not counting Adam West's movie from the 60s). It goes to show that if the movie is good and it matches the hype, it will do incredible business. Of course, this kind of BO will only be reserved for the biggest names, like Spider-man and Batman. IM2 might do it as well but it really depends how good it turns out to be.

[nimrod]

bottom line iron man is a b list hero bats is an a lister, and now the bo even shows this, why must people insist on iron man being superior lol, TDK is were the cash is at!

eehh. This comment is simply stupid.

[Tony Stark]

Yeah, although everyone knows TDK will be huge, having it broke the OW record of SM3 is still a bit surprising, since it's a borderline R movie, has a long running time, and is the sixth movie of Batman (not counting Adam West's movie from the 60s). It goes to show that if the movie is good and it matches the hype, it will do incredible business. Of course, this kind of BO will only be reserved for the biggest names, like Spider-man and Batman. IM2 might do it as well but it really depends how good it turns out to be.


Honestly I wasn't that suprised, considering it was the widest release ever. You look at the average per theater and TDK was slightly ahead of SM3, although about the same, but multiply that by the number of extra screens, and it was easily going to top the record.

You're basically talking the same demographic for SM3 and TDK, so you're getting alot of the same people. TDK was a better movie than SM3, and even I as more of a Spider-man fan can admit that. SM3 wasn't bad, but it was hampered by interference from Avi Arad and Sony.

In anycase I'm glad to see TDK do so well. I also think IM making 300 million is incredible as he hasn't been well known until now. There is a ton of potential for IM2 to break even more records.

Personally I just hope this promotes more quality superhero movies like IM and TDK.

[Excel]

http://i29.tinypic.com/15oj9l1.jpg

:p

[Leenie]

I don't understand the debate between Iron Man and Batman fans ...

Iron Man rocked. The Dark Knight rocked. Both of them are highly successful movies. As far as I see it, there's nothing to complain about.

[Docker2.0]

eehh. This comment is simply stupid.

Agreed! I don't even know what dude was trying to prove with his point. Maybe he wants attention. :huh:

[O'Haire]

Iron Man rocked. The Dark Knight rocked. Both of them are highly successful movies. As far as I see it, there's nothing to complain about.

:up:

[theShape]

Tell that to the Guano trolls that come here, the Hulk boards and everyother board to spew thier tired as$ crap about Batman.

You say that Batman fans are "guano trolls" but look at you! Look at the negativity you're spewing towards the Batman franchise, which just broke a ****load of records at the box office. You're no better than any of the so called "trolls" you criticize. You might as well be working for Marvel.

[Docker2.0]

Nah.....noone is going into the Bat forum bashing TDK saying IM is much better. You are asking for trouble doing that here. Plus what's the point?

[souvlaki]

Exactly! I don't understand bats fans need to gloat.

I think it's residual anger from all the trolling done on the Bat-boards after BB to be honest. When BB failed to even make $70M opening weekend there were a flood of Fantastic Four and Spider-Man fans that invaded the Bat-boards, calling the movie a failure, and basically knocking Batman any chance they got. It probably created a lot of bitterness amongst the people on that board towards Marvel movies in general. I doubt it even has anything to do with Iron Man, it's probably just a DC vs. Marvel thing in general. I personally don't get it. Batman is my favorite character, DC is my favorite company, and Dark Knight is my favorite comic book movie, but I was absolutely floored by Iron Man. I'm really happy it did as well as it did, because it was a great movie. Same as how I'm happy that Dark Knight is doing so well. No reason to take it personally though. Some comic book fans are just getting a little carried away with themselves in light of the success of the movie. Hopefully that won't stop Iron Man fans from enjoying TDK, and it wont stop Batman fans from enjoying Iron Man as they were both amazing films. We will probably never see another year with two comic book movies released in the same summer that are this good again.

[Mauser9910]

It looks like I spoke to soon about Iron Man's demise at the hands of Indy. When I get predictions as wrong as I did with TDK and Iron Man it almost makes me want to stop predicting...lol. Iron Man and TDK being mosters should confirm to everyone now that comicbook movies are not a fad.

Iron Man has made 314mil and TDK is looking to make over 400mil. Yep, comicbook movies are fads.

I hope you have that one wrong as well. :o :cwink:

[Boom]

If Iron Man can make a fan out of me, then I consider the film a massive success. And for the record, it did.

This box office competition crap is moronic. Always has been, always will be. Both films were great, and both films have made enough money to guarantee a sequel. Isn't that what we, as fans, want in the long run?

So really, what difference does it make if Iron Man or The Dark Knight performs better box-office-wise? Not a damn thing.

And if you think it earns you bragging rights as a fan, then that's just sad and pathetic.

And for the record, I am a Batman fan.

[Iron_Stark]

You say that Batman fans are "guano trolls" but look at you! Look at the negativity you're spewing towards the Batman franchise, which just broke a ****load of records at the box office. You're no better than any of the so called "trolls" you criticize. You might as well be working for Marvel.

Did I go into the Batman boards gloat about how much Iron Man was raking in? NO! Did I go into the the boards and troll in there? NO!

Go look through my past posts, the only times I was ever in the Batboards was to praise the movie.

Guano trolls only venture out of thier boards to bash other movies, you and everyone know damn well how annoying guano trolls are.

[nimrod]

You say that Batman fans are "guano trolls" but look at you! Look at the negativity you're spewing towards the Batman franchise, which just broke a ****load of records at the box office. You're no better than any of the so called "trolls" you criticize. You might as well be working for Marvel.

Shame on you. You should know better than that.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I hope you have that one wrong as well. :o :cwink:lol I actually hate that the trolls are getting what they want and predicted correctly but...what are you going to do? *shrugs* They were right about TDK's boxoffice and I was wrong. I underestimated the dead actor factor...and yes, that sounds a little cass but I don't know anyother way to say it. Still wish they'd shut the hell up because no movie is worth all this trolling and hype.

[I Am The Knight]

It's not about the money...It's about sending a message :grin:

[theShape]

Did I go into the Batman boards gloat about how much Iron Man was raking in? NO! Did I go into the the boards and troll in there? NO!

Go look through my past posts, the only times I was ever in the Batboards was to praise the movie.

Guano trolls only venture out of thier boards to bash other movies, you and everyone know damn well how annoying guano trolls are.

How am I getting in trouble here? You act like I bashed IM, and I did nothing of the sort. But rather than staying level-headed, you're stooping down to the trolls' level. Your post on the last page was the most angst-ridden mix of Marvel advertisement and DC bashing that I've seen here in a while, coming close to the way Advanced Dark used to act when any Marvel film was criticized. The person you responded to wasn't even criticizing the movie, he compared the box office and stated that TDK did better. Was he wrong? Is it a legitimate reason for you to take things so personally?

Seriously, just chill out. This is the "I told you so" phase. People doubted that TDK would be a monster at the box office, and now it's time for some people who had faith to say "I told you so". The same thing happened when IM had a surprising $100 million OW, and don't pretend it didn't. That's life.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's not about the money...It's about sending a message :grin:Nah, it was about the Bat-trolls getting their boxoffice wish and they did... congrats, you still embarrassed yourselves.:up: (Not you ofcourse)

I'm woman enough to admit when I'm wrong and the Nolan er Bat-fans are right.

Does boxoffice now mean that a movie is good? Because I distinctly remember many people yelling "Boxoffice doean't mean that a movie is good," when Batman Begins didn't do er TDK numbers.

[Boom]

They were right about TDK's boxoffice and I was wrong. I underestimated the dead actor factor...
As sad as it is, yeah, I believe that's the number one factor.

[I Am The Knight]

Nah, it was about the Bat-trolls getting their boxoffice wish and they did... congrats, you still embarrassed yourselves.:up: (Not you ofcourse)

I'm woman enough to admit when I'm wrong and the Nolan er Bat-fans are right.

Does boxoffice now mean that a movie is good? Because I distinctly remember many people yelling "Boxoffice doean't mean that a movie is good," when Batman Begins didn't do er TDK numbers.

No, of course not. We've seen countless examples of movies that rake in the cash yet were atrocities, and great movies that ended up bombing. I believe TDK's box office is well deserved though. Great box office for a great movie.

Box Office normally means popularity/interest, not quality. Legs are more indicative of quality.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No, of course not. We've seen countless examples of movies that rake in the cash yet were atrocities, and great movies that ended up bombing. I believe TDK's box office is well deserved though. Great box office for a great movie.

Box Office normally means popularity/interest, not quality. Legs are more indicative of quality.You wouldn't know that from the majority response of the film numbers.

[theShape]

As sad as it is, yeah, I believe that's the number one factor.

Definitely not the number one factor, but certainly a factor. TDK would have been a smash anyway, but maybe not the record-breaker it is now.

[Tony Stark]

How am I getting in trouble here? You act like I bashed IM, and I did nothing of the sort. But rather than staying level-headed, you're stooping down to the trolls' level. Your post on the last page was the most angst-ridden mix of Marvel advertisement and DC bashing that I've seen here in a while, coming close to the way Advanced Dark used to act when any Marvel film was criticized. The person you responded to wasn't even criticizing the movie, he compared the box office and stated that TDK did better. Was he wrong? Is it a legitimate reason for you to take things so personally?

Seriously, just chill out. This is the "I told you so" phase. People doubted that TDK would be a monster at the box office, and now it's time for some people who had faith to say "I told you so". The same thing happened when IM had a surprising $100 million OW, and don't pretend it didn't. That's life.

The only reason that happened was the guano trolls like the on in my signature said there was no way IM would open at 100 million. Most of them were saying 47-60 million.

I knew TDK would have a huge opening, I didn't know it would break SM3's records, but I knew it would be the one film possibly to make 400 million.

Yeah there are a few Marvel trolls, and they are just as dumb, but by far the guano trolls are the worst and far outnumber the Marvel trolls.

Heck I was accused of being a troll when I went on the X-men boards and said that X3 basically sucked, and I'm a marvel fan.

[Docker2.0]

Yes...........batfans are by far THE most psychotic fans there are!

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Indeed they are.

[Boom]

ol u guyz r just jealus cuz batman is bettr than u.

[Zig-Zag Man]

And everyone jumped my balls when I said The Dark Knight was going to blow Iron Man out the water ... haha It might reach Iron Man in just a week in theatres.

[batman44]

Yes...........batfans are by far THE most psychotic fans there are!

How about "SOME" batfans are like that, not all. I wouldn't even say the majority.

Anyway, I'm just happy we are getting quality comic films and those films being able to rank in the dough.

[Spider-Fan]

Guys, the batfans have every right to brag. This movie is a monster and it is the best comic movie ever made. I think the batfans have bragging rights for now, and we'll have to deal with it.

Though they do go over board.

[Docker2.0]

And everyone jumped my balls when I said The Dark Knight was going to blow Iron Man out the water ... haha It might reach Iron Man in just a week in theatres.

You have balls?! :huh:

[WorthyStevens]

Iron Man 2 (which should top The Dark Knight, like Iron Man topped Begins)

I thought Iron Man was great and all, and I'm also glad it did extremely well, but there's a 99.999999% chance IM2 won't top TDK.

[FaT_tONle]

Seriously, just chill out. This is the "I told you so" phase. People doubted that TDK would be a monster at the box office, and now it's time for some people who had faith to say "I told you so". The same thing happened when IM had a surprising $100 million OW, and don't pretend it didn't. That's life.

Well that person shouldn't be you because you had no faith in the box office. I believe your predictions were like 80 million OW tops... whereas most people had it at over 100 million from the start. I am talking about TDK of course.

[Mauser9910]

Yes...........batfans are by far THE most psychotic fans there are!

Nah, just a little below the hardcore SW fans. :cwink:

Miss I SEE SPIDEY, with all due respect to the amazing and very missed Heath, I doubt the dead actor factor comes much into play here - at least not with that kind of numbers.
My guess for the reasons would be that 1/the film looks good (not released here yet so I can't say and I still have some doubts considering the rave over the overestimated BB) and 2/ that indeed most bat-fans are pretty messed up and made some theaters their own bat-cave. *shudders*
I'm quite the Marvel fan myself and a bit embarassed to admit I've seen some early Marvel films a lot of times, like 8 times (for X1 ans SM - com'on ! these babies were expected in the early 90's !) during their ENTIRE run. :o
And I wouldn't be surprised that some Batfans bought that many tickets only in the span of 3-4 days. :wow:

After that, it must be a mix of good word of mouth, I guess, and general hype : "let's check out that Batman film that's so successfull".

I suppose it's the same kind of momentum we saw for the release of Spider-Man.

And as a sidenote, with the numbers of screens, theaters and price of tickets going up, I have no doubt that it won't take long before these TDK records get served in due time, so eh, enjoy the life Bat-nuts ! ;)

[Ironfan72]

Alot of people I've spoken with said they weren't all that interested in seeing TDK, but because of Mr. Ledger's passing they were intreguied enough to go see the film as it was his last performance and they heard it wasn't bad, most thought the film to dark and wouldn't see it again, other's flat out thought the film was over-hyped but didn't think it was bad, but seeing it once was enough.

[ultimatefan]

Look, I´m happy for the sucess of Iron Man, the success of both it and TDK is great for comic book/superhero movies.

But for the people who kept putting down TDK´s perspective at the box office and said, no way it could make Iron Man numbers, here´s the lesson... NEVER underestimate an icon.

And don´t even try to pull this "it´s because of Ledger´s death" crap. Morbid curiosity wouldn´t hold this movie´s success past the first weekend. The word of mouth and reviews it´s getting are phenomenal, and not only for Ledger, but for script, direction and the rest of the cast. There are tons of movies released after one of the stars died that flopped and got bashed all the same.

Should I assume the success and great reviews of IM were all based on morbid curiosity to see Downey Jr play an alcoholic/tabloid-favorite superhero?

[ultimatefan]

Alot of people I've spoken with said they weren't all that interested in seeing TDK, but because of Mr. Ledger's passing they were intreguied enough to go see the film as it was his last performance and they heard it wasn't bad, most thought the film to dark and wouldn't see it again, other's flat out thought the film was over-hyped but didn't think it was bad, but seeing it once was enough.

Funny thing is it´s only Marvel fanboys who are getting that reaction...

[theShape]

Well that person shouldn't be you because you had no faith in the box office. I believe your predictions were like 80 million OW tops... whereas most people had it at over 100 million from the start. I am talking about TDK of course.

Show me a post where I said "I told you so" or even came close to bragging. Wait, I never did that, so quiet down. I merely said some people would be doing that, and they are, just like they did when Iron Man opened big.

As for my predictions, early on (before July), I predicted about $80 million OW for TDK, and then about $130-140 million closer to release. So yeah, it definitely exceeded my expectations and I'm happy about it. Not sure what the point of your post even was...

[Iron_Stark]

I thought Iron Man was great and all, and I'm also glad it did extremely well, but there's a 99.999999% chance IM2 won't top TDK.

You're right, I jumped the gun there, looking at the numbers I really doubt IM2 tops TDK.

BUT, I don't give a sh** anymore, we're getting Iron Man 2 and beyond, and a slew of Marvel films for the next 3 years.

Thats a whole hell of a lot better than the competition can say.

Marvel still wins.

[theShape]

You're right, I jumped the gun there, looking at the numbers I really doubt IM2 tops TDK.

BUT, I don't give a sh** anymore, we're getting Iron Man 2 and beyond, and a slew of Marvel films for the next 3 years.

Thats a whole hell of a lot better than the competition can say.

Marvel still wins.

Do you see what I mean? WorthyStevens was just being realistic, and you turned it into a DC vs. Marvel thing. Lame.

[Mauser9910]

Do you see what I mean? WorthyStevens was just being realistic, and you turned it into a DC vs. Marvel thing. Lame.

It's not very realistic to comment on a film that isn't even made yet.

[theShape]

It's not very realistic to comment on a film that isn't even made yet.

You're right. It's stupid for people to make predictions before films come out. This entire thread, which began in 2006, mind you, is really stupid.

[nimrod]

You're right. It's stupid for people to make predictions before films come out. This entire thread, which began in 2006, mind you, is really stupid.

Take your nonsense somewhere else.

[MissionBond92]

Like I've told other annoying Guano trolls, good for Batman, I'm glad DC has ONE successful franchise.

See we still have, Punisher War Zone, Wolverine, Iron Man 2 (which should top The Dark Knight, like Iron Man topped Begins), Thor, Cap, The Avengers, Spider-Man 4 & 5, and others.

WTF does DC have? The Man of Steel, maybe? Batman 3 which Nolan and Caine said they may come back and no way in hell will be better than Dark Knight. What else? Watchmen? Yeah that'll make for one good movie, then what? What else does DC have? Not a damn thing.

Enjoy your success now, because this is probably the only one you're getting.

Marvel still wins.

OH shut up, am a marvel fan, but theres no DC VS Marvel movie company, its the movies, Iron Man 2 won't beat TDK, TDK is actually one of the best movies ever made..ever, Spiderman 4 is gonna fail is 3 was horrible, Thor-only fans, no outside, so another fail,

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The Batman fans have just gotten more annoying. Fantastic.

And no, I don't mean all.

[Boom]

The Batman fans have just gotten more annoying. Fantastic.

And no, I don't mean all.
Thank you :O.

[fu manchu]

OH shut up, am a marvel fan, but theres no DC VS Marvel movie company, its the movies, Iron Man 2 won't beat TDK, TDK is actually one of the best movies ever made..ever, Spiderman 4 is gonna fail is 3 was horrible, Thor-only fans, no outside, so another fail,

Thats a bold statement. Right now, we don't know too much about IM2 to make that kind of predication. TDK is great but, i am hoping that Favreau and RDJ will blow us away in 2010 or whenever IM2 comes out.

[Docker2.0]

Take your nonsense somewhere else.
:up: Agreed! They need to bounce their asses to TDK forum and celebrate there.

[DAMU RYDER]

lol how this iron man thread turn into a tdk thread

[Tony Stark]

lol how this iron man thread turn into a tdk thread

Only because the guano fanboys need to justify the success of TDK by trashing Iron Man.

Most of the Marvel fans I've seen on the bat boards, haven't posted one damn thing about Iron Man. But they were all over here when IM was new in the theaters.

[batman44]

So... how about that Iron Man box office success:up:

[Mauser9910]

Well, it's been great ! Great critics, great word of mouth, and that should build even more momentum when it gets released on dvd/blu-ray.
That's pretty much what happens with every launching of a franchise and it sets up an even bigger fanbase for the next theatrical release.
Meaning Bat-fans ALREADY denying Iron Man 2 can top TDK numbers are well... you know...
In the meantime, IM should also do very well in Japan in about a month, mecha-luuuuv ! :)

[nimrod]

It's great though that "comic book movies" have broken so many records.
Batman 89, TDK and Spiderman 1 and 3 have all been at the top.
Seems like "comic book movies" bring in more than most other genres.
As for TDK's current record, Pirates 2 went on to take the record after the surprising first.
Will Ironman 2 surpass TDK? That's hard to say but not as impossible as one might think.
These things tend to escalate.

[Mauser9910]

Will Ironman 2 surpass TDK? That's hard to say but not as impossible as one might think.
These things tend to escalate.

It really is a big question mark, considering the Demon in a Bottle storyline that could be used for the 2nd film.
I believe that if they go that way, it'll receive great praises (much like Spider-Man no more for SM2), box-office wise, I dunno...

[Heretic]

I think whats more annoying than batfans are "Marvel" fans...the superhero genre is still very much maligned in the general public. Comic books are not respected, and neither are its readers. The critics cant wait to trash ths trend when it dies. So, any time we flex box office muscle or get critical raves, it is a good thing. We are slowly becoming one of the most important niche blocks in the entertainment industry. So...Iron man was a good thing...The Dark Knight was a good thing...the only things we SHOULDNT want are piece of garbage movies (like Ghost Rider...which harms our niche) or good movies with bad promotion and sub par box office (like The Incredible Hulk, which deserved much better) and we should support any movies that are good. Supporting Marvel over Dc or vice versa is just stupid, as most of the world just lumps both into the same category...and the success or failure of our beloved genre depends on BOTH making quality films that deliever at the box office.

[WorthyStevens]

It's not very realistic to comment on a film that isn't even made yet.

I am being realistic. There's no way IM2 will make around $500 million, which is what TDK is on pace to make.

[Docker2.0]

If TDK made it, the its possible another movie will make it. :whatever: It may not make it but its possible.

[I Am The Knight]

I think whats more annoying than batfans are "Marvel" fans...the superhero genre is still very much maligned in the general public. Comic books are not respected, and neither are its readers. The critics cant wait to trash ths trend when it dies. So, any time we flex box office muscle or get critical raves, it is a good thing. We are slowly becoming one of the most important niche blocks in the entertainment industry. So...Iron man was a good thing...The Dark Knight was a good thing...the only things we SHOULDNT want are piece of garbage movies (like Ghost Rider...which harms our niche) or good movies with bad promotion and sub par box office (like The Incredible Hulk, which deserved much better) and we should support any movies that are good. Supporting Marvel over Dc or vice versa is just stupid, as most of the world just lumps both into the same category...and the success or failure of our beloved genre depends on BOTH making quality films that deliever at the box office.

Great post. Agreed on everything, especially the bolded part.

[Docker2.0]

You need to agree on what sig you will wear! :cmad: :p

[I Am The Knight]

You need to agree on what sig you will wear! :cmad: :p

What are you on, Cocker? :indy:Oh, is this about the X-Files?

[Docker2.0]

yes! yes it is! :o

[FlawlessVictory]

I think whats more annoying than batfans are "Marvel" fans...the superhero genre is still very much maligned in the general public. Comic books are not respected, and neither are its readers. The critics cant wait to trash ths trend when it dies. So, any time we flex box office muscle or get critical raves, it is a good thing. We are slowly becoming one of the most important niche blocks in the entertainment industry. So...Iron man was a good thing...The Dark Knight was a good thing...the only things we SHOULDNT want are piece of garbage movies (like Ghost Rider...which harms our niche) or good movies with bad promotion and sub par box office (like The Incredible Hulk, which deserved much better) and we should support any movies that are good. Supporting Marvel over Dc or vice versa is just stupid, as most of the world just lumps both into the same category...and the success or failure of our beloved genre depends on BOTH making quality films that deliever at the box office.

:up:

[MissionBond92]

Thats a bold statement. Right now, we don't know too much about IM2 to make that kind of predication. TDK is great but, i am hoping that Favreau and RDJ will blow us away in 2010 or whenever IM2 comes out.

TDK is more realistic and even been called a mystery/drama, which is why more people who are normally not interseted in hero movies are seeing it

[MissionBond92]

Thats a bold statement. Right now, we don't know too much about IM2 to make that kind of predication. TDK is great but, i am hoping that Favreau and RDJ will blow us away in 2010 or whenever IM2 comes out.

even through also i hope their is a better movie and one that does better than TDK, am just saying TDK will probably have more money, i like movies, good movies = am happy

[I Am The Knight]

yes! yes it is! :o

Well, I haven't thought about a sig per se. But since you seem to love to hate the Bat fans, why don't we start there, eh? :yay:

If you lose the X-Files bet, your sig will be:

I Am The Knight is my Master :twisted: I went against his Holy Word and put my faith in the heathen Chris Carter. Now, every night I cry myself to sleep in shame. TDK is the way. Now I'm a full fledged TDK lover, and I love my fellow TDK addicts!! $500 million, here we go!

There, nothing too crazy. And yes, I'm aware I actually ended with the Bat Fans...But The Knight comes first :oldrazz:

[Spider-Fan]

What was the friday BO pull?

Ok, I am looking at them right now, and I told you all the X-Files was not threat to TDK. TDK is taking this weekend easily, and will be close to/ or will be ahead of all other movies in domestic BO this year.

This movie is a monster.

[FlawlessVictory]

Agreed! I think X-Files will open up to around $60-70M. Don't have a clue to the final tally though.

:lmao:

Box Office Mojo is reporting a Friday number of $4 mil for X-Files.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah...If it makes $15 mil (which is optimistic IMO), he'll only be like $45 mil off :woot:

[Iron_Stark]

OH shut up, am a marvel fan, but theres no DC VS Marvel movie company, its the movies, Iron Man 2 won't beat TDK, TDK is actually one of the best movies ever made..ever, Spiderman 4 is gonna fail is 3 was horrible, Thor-only fans, no outside, so another fail,

Don't tell me to shut up pal, I've every right to post on this PUBLIC forum as you do, as long as I'm following the rules.


So... how about that Iron Man box office success:up:


Why can't more Batfans be like batman44? :huh:

lol how this iron man thread turn into a tdk thread

The guano infestation is everywhere.

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah...If it makes $15 mil (which is optimistic IMO), he'll only be like $45 mil off :woot:

LOL. I expected to win the bet, but not so brutally :oldrazz:

[nimrod]

TDK is more realistic and even been called a mystery/drama, which is why more people who are normally not interseted in hero movies are seeing it

Soooo, what u'r saying is realistic movies and mysteries and dramas are such major box office powerhouses. :whatever:

[CaptainStacy]

Great post. Agreed on everything, especially the bolded part.

Same here.

[FaT_tONle]

Know one knows what the market will be like by 2010... with inflation and all IM2 could easily be in the 350 range. While that's obviously not as good as TDK... it could easily outgross BB3 and many other superhero films for that matter.

[Spider-Fan]

I think seeing the BO for BB3 will be interesting. How much of TDK's BO was Ledger death and how much was just the inclusion fo the Joker in general (Batman's most successful films were ones with the Joker). Is BB3 going to suffer a little for no Joker? I am curious on that.

IM2 I think will be less interesting cause it should pull similar BO, and possibly a little more (unless of course, the movie is yet another TDK or SM2 quality jump, but even then IM's opening was huge).

[Tony Stark]

I think seeing the BO for BB3 will be interesting. How much of TDK's BO was Ledger death and how much was just the inclusion fo the Joker in general (Batman's most successful films were ones with the Joker). Is BB3 going to suffer a little for no Joker? I am curious on that.

IM2 I think will be less interesting cause it should pull similar BO, and possibly a little more (unless of course, the movie is yet another TDK or SM2 quality jump, but even then IM's opening was huge).

You hit the nail on the head, inflation has alot to do with all these BO records. If you look on BO mojo's site adjusted for inflation, thinks look very, very different. Spider-Man 1 would have made something like 485 million in 2008 dollars. So that puts things in perspective a bit.

I wrote on the general thread, that the really successful comic book movies make it extremely hard for more movies like Hellboy (which was just as good as TDK in my opinion), to be made.

I'm happy when these movies are made, but it is a double edged sword.

[Spider-Fan]

You hit the nail on the head, inflation has alot to do with all these BO records. If you look on BO mojo's site adjusted for inflation, thinks look very, very different. Spider-Man 1 would have made something like 485 million in 2008 dollars. So that puts things in perspective a bit.

I wrote on the general thread, that the really successful comic book movies make it extremely hard for more movies like Hellboy (which was just as good as TDK in my opinion), to be made.

I'm happy when these movies are made, but it is a double edged sword.

Very true. BF set a record when it was released, and pulled $52,784,433. That was a record. TIH pulls around that much, and people are disappointed. Heck, most movies open to more than that anymore.

The #'s are getting rediculous.

[Docker2.0]

:lmao:

Box Office Mojo is reporting a Friday number of $4 mil for X-Files.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
Please tell me you are kidding! :cmad: :csad:

[Docker2.0]

You hit the nail on the head, inflation has alot to do with all these BO records. If you look on BO mojo's site adjusted for inflation, thinks look very, very different. Spider-Man 1 would have made something like 485 million in 2008 dollars. So that puts things in perspective a bit.

I wrote on the general thread, that the really successful comic book movies make it extremely hard for more movies like Hellboy (which was just as good as TDK in my opinion), to be made.

I'm happy when these movies are made, but it is a double edged sword.

Exactly. Plus don't forget TDK opened in a record amount of theaters. Don't get me wrong, the movie was excellent but it came out in a very unique situation.

[rashad]

Please tell me you are kidding! :cmad: :csad:

"I want to believe"

[Fenrir]

Will people please stop citing inflation-adjusted numbers? I don't know why so many of you can't understand it is a double-edged sword? Inflation may be the reason for all these massive box office numbers, but you must also put other things into perspective that even each other out. Because ticket and gas prices have increased many folds, people tend to go and spend less on movies than they used to. The problem of bootlegs and piracy was also less prevalent half a decade ago that seems to eat away a noticeable slice of a film's business in theaters. Not to mention the fact that DVDs are now released within 3-4 months MAX after a film ends its theatrical run, which wasn't the case earlier. The continuing rise and popularity of home video is taking away from theatrical receipts. All these factors amount to less repeat business at the cineplex.

So please, let's not ignorantly pretend the price of tickets is the only thing that has changed over the years to put so much emphasis on inflation-adjusted numbers.

As for those of you who are crying about Bat-guano infestation and making excuses for TDK's success (morbid curiosity over Ledger's death and whatnot), as I recall some of these very posters were laughing their ass off dismissively over TDK coming anywhere close to Spidey's numbers citing BB's opening weekend numbers and total gross, let alone beat it. So having it rubbed in your faces is very much a deserved response. Such is the nature of box office discussions. If you are inclined to make bold statements both in favor or against a movie, then it is also best to be prepared to eat some crow when you have been proved wrong (goes for both DC and Marvel fans).

That is exactly why I never argue box office numbers.

[Spider-Fan]

I think the inclusion of the Joker is helping the film's BO. It has become clear to me that in a Batman franchise, Joker is the biggest draw. Not Batman. Why do I say this? Cause the first thing anyone praises about either Batman 89' or TDK is the performances of the Joker actors. People love watching the Joker. Ledger's death may have sold some more tickets, but I think it is more the inclusion of the Joker (not to mention a Joker that is this awesome).

Inflation I do feel needs to be taken into consideration to some extent, but at the same time, we can't sell short what TDK is doing. It's performance is monstrous.

[Mauser9910]

Inflation I do feel needs to be taken into consideration to some extent, but at the same time, we can't sell short what TDK is doing. It's performance is monstrous.

Yeepee... Another week of "My Bat-peepee is bigger than all of yours combined" :whatever:

[Docker2.0]

Yeepee... Another week of "My Bat-peepee is bigger than all of yours combined" :whatever:
Seems that way. Why can't they just stay in the bat forums?!?!

[Boom]

So just by mentioning TDK, one becomes a guano-troll? The guy didn't even say anything trollish. I agree that TDK talk shouldn't be making up the bulk of conversation in this thread, but lighten up a bit on the name-calling.

And for the genuine Batman trolls, leave :up:.

[Spider-Fan]

Yeepee... Another week of "My Bat-peepee is bigger than all of yours combined" :whatever:

LOL...now I am being called a bat troll. Hardly. I have given Iron Man its due props time after time in this thread. Nothing changes how well Iron Man did. However, TDK is doing very well and deserves to. Am I a troll for liking a movie now?

I think a lot of bat trolls do troll this thread and many boards, but calling people like me a troll is misplaced anger.

[hatebox]

Will people please stop citing inflation-adjusted numbers? I don't know why so many of you can't understand it is a double-edged sword? Inflation may be the reason for all these massive box office numbers, but you must also put other things into perspective that even each other out. Because ticket and gas prices have increased many folds, people tend to go and spend less on movies than they used to. The problem of bootlegs and piracy was also less prevalent half a decade ago that seems to eat away a noticeable slice of a film's business in theaters. Not to mention the fact that DVDs are now released within 3-4 months MAX after a film ends its theatrical run, which wasn't the case earlier. The continuing rise and popularity of home video is taking away from theatrical receipts. All these factors amount to less repeat business at the cineplex.

So please, let's not ignorantly pretend the price of tickets is the only thing that has changed over the years to put so much emphasis on inflation-adjusted numbers.

As for those of you who are crying about Bat-guano infestation and making excuses for TDK's success (morbid curiosity over Ledger's death and whatnot), as I recall some of these very posters were laughing their ass off dismissively over TDK coming anywhere close to Spidey's numbers citing BB's opening weekend numbers and total gross, let alone beat it. So having it rubbed in your faces is very much a deserved response. Such is the nature of box office discussions. If you are inclined to make bold statements both in favor or against a movie, then it is also best to be prepared to eat some crow when you have been proved wrong (goes for both DC and Marvel fans).

That is exactly why I never argue box office numbers.

What he said. Bear in mind TDK is also much longer than the average superhero film, so less screenings per day.

[C. Lee]

What he said. Bear in mind TDK is also much longer than the average superhero film, so less screenings per day.

Less screenings per screen....but does anyone have the numbers on how many screens per theater it is being shown in?

[C. Lee]

Yeepee... Another week of "My Bat-peepee is bigger than all of yours combined" :whatever:

I've had to intervene about many Battroll comments in lots of places....and that wasn't trollish.

[Van Petrol]

So just by mentioning TDK, one becomes a guano-troll? The guy didn't even say anything trollish. I agree that TDK talk shouldn't be making up the bulk of conversation in this thread, but lighten up a bit on the name-calling.

And for the genuine Batman trolls, leave :up:.

Bad sportsmanship...what makes me laugh is that all the Marvel fans complain about the Bat-fans, yet they aren't much better themselves.

I hate these "my weenie is bigger than yours" competitions, can't we all just get along?...

[C. Lee]

Bad sportsmanship...what makes me laugh is that all the Marvel fans complain about the Bat-fans, yet they aren't much better themselves.

I hate these "my weenie is bigger than yours" competitions, can't we all just get along?...

The best way for all to get along....is for you not to come in and continue arguing and name calling.

I don't like ANYONE to continue or start MARVEL VS DC wars anywhere on these boards.

If it persists I will start probating anyone who acts up.

[MissionBond92]

The best way for all to get along....is for you not to come in and continue arguing and name calling.

I don't like ANYONE to continue or start MARVEL VS DC wars anywhere on these boards.

If it persists I will start probating anyone who acts up.

i hate Marvel VS DC >_< am a marvel fan, my favorite movie is Dark Knight q:

[Boom]

Less screenings per screen....but does anyone have the numbers on how many screens per theater it is being shown in?

Here's the schedule for National Amusements: Western Hills Cinema as of 07/27/08:

Get Smart (PG-13 - 1:50 mins) = One showing.
Hancock (PG-13 - 1:32 mins) = Five showings.
Hellboy II: The Golden Army (PG-13 - 1:50 mins) = Three showings.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (PG-13 - 2:00 mins) = One showings.
Journey to the Center of the Earth [Digital 3D] (PG - 1:32 mins) = Five showings.
Kit Kittredge: An American Girl (G - 1:31 mins) = One showing.
Kung Fu Panda (PG - 1:31 mins) = One showing.
Mamma Mia! (PG-13 - 1:48 mins) = Ten showings.
Space Chimps (G - 1:21 mins) = Five showings.
Step Brothers [RWC/DVS] (R - 1:35 mins) = Six showings.
Step Brothers (R - 1:35 mins) = Five showings.
The Dark Knight (PG-13 - 2:30 mins) = Fourteen showings.
The X-Files: I Want to Believe (PG-13 - 1:44 mins) = Five showings.
WALL-E (G - 1:37 mins) = Five showings.
Wanted (R - 1:48 mins) = One showing.

The Dark Knight has the most showings, and is the longest film on the list.

[Mauser9910]

LOL...now I am being called a bat troll. Hardly. I have given Iron Man its due props time after time in this thread. Nothing changes how well Iron Man did. However, TDK is doing very well and deserves to. Am I a troll for liking a movie now?

I think a lot of bat trolls do troll this thread and many boards, but calling people like me a troll is misplaced anger.

I was quoting you but didn't mean at all you were a troll, sorry. Especially if you're a Spider-Fan, you're totally cool with me then lol. :)
Just establishing what was ahead of us, that's all.

[Mauser9910]

I've had to intervene about many Battroll comments in lots of places....and that wasn't trollish.

See above. :)
And I used to be a mod elsewhere so I feel your pain. Bon courage ! :)

[Van Petrol]

The best way for all to get along....is for you not to come in and continue arguing and name calling.

I don't like ANYONE to continue or start MARVEL VS DC wars anywhere on these boards.

If it persists I will start probating anyone who acts up.

I'm sorry my comments came across like that, it wasn't intentional. My apologies.

[Spider-Fan]

I was quoting you but didn't mean at all you were a troll, sorry. Especially if you're a Spider-Fan, you're totally cool with me then lol. :)
Just establishing what was ahead of us, that's all.

No problem. We cool :word:

[CaptainStacy]

So is Iron Man still being shown anywhere, or is it's box office run pretty much done?

[nimrod]

What he said. Bear in mind TDK is also much longer than the average superhero film, so less screenings per day.

hahahahaha. u kidding?

[Mauser9910]

So is Iron Man still being shown anywhere, or is it's box office run pretty much done?

Not worldwide, it should hit Japan in September, maybe a few other territories.
In France, it recently got the chance to cash a few extra euros by being in a double feature with TIH.

[hatebox]

hahahahaha. u kidding?

I meant to say 'screenings per screen' admittedly. But if it's being shown on loads of screens that's only a sign of how popular it is.

[Ironfan72]

So is Iron Man still being shown anywhere, or is it's box office run pretty much done?

It's still being shown here in Columbus at a AMC 30, but only 2 showings, I would imagine it's run at first run theaters here in the US is about over and should hit $1.00 theaters soon, especially with the DVD due on September 30th.

[TheVileOne]

Iron Man is pretty much thinning out right now. But that's fine.

It's also fine that The Dark Knight makes in 10 days what Iron Made in almost 3 months. Why? Because it raises the bar.

Before Dark Knight, no comic book movie released in a summer of them could do better than the one released first. Dark Knight broke that chain, so it proves that you can best an earlier one that comes out at the start of the summer.

Also, it sets the bar high for Iron Man 2 with expectations from the first one as well. Meaning Iron Man 2 could be even more fantastic since it has tough competition now.

It also assures that this is not a fad. Studios aren't going to stop making these movies, even though some execs. probably want to. While there's the danger of saturation and all that, it means that to people these characters, these properties aren't trash. Comics are the modern mythology of our generation. And it will also hopefully mean that our favorite characters have a better chance of getting good movies made instead of ridiculous, B-movie level garbage.

[Docker2.0]

Don't forget Ledger's death played a part in the BO. It was still great but how the f do you follow up TDK?

[Spider-Fan]

Don't forget Ledger's death played a part in the BO. It was still great but how the f do you follow up TDK?

I wouldn't worry about Batman. He has plenty of villains left in the tank to use, and Nolan is a talented filmmaker and can make a solid 3rd film if he chooses to try.

Though I have no faith in a third topping TDK's quality or BO, I have faith it can still be quite good.

[Docker2.0]

I don't know. What villian could they use without seeming.........stupid? I want to say the Riddler and turn him into a serial killer or the guy with the dummy on his hand. But I don't think we'd ever see Clayface, Mr. Freeze, or Killer Croc on the big screen. :(

[Spider-Fan]

Why does Riddler need to be a serial killer? The Riddler (if you remove the goofiness) is a fine villain, and can offer us a plot based on meticulous planning and order (while Joker was choas and just doing things to prove his philosophy). He would be a nice change of pace, and give us an excuse to see the detective side of Batman.

Why do we need to make villains serial killers to be cool? Joker is cool and just happens to be a serial killer. I think we should stay true to the characters, and not just completely change them (and Nolan has done a nice job at staying true to the characters).

As for other villains: Black Mask, Catwoman, The Reaper (poor comic villain with lots of unused potential), Mad Hatter, etc. Sure, Clayface, Mr. Freeze, and Killer Croc won't work, but Bats still has many guys to work with.

Oh, and ummmm...Iron Man eh (trying to stay on topic, I really am!)

[TheVileOne]

Catwoman. Nolan just did a ****ing amazing job of cinematically revamping two of Batman's rogues that were previously shat upon by Burton, Schumacher, Pitof, and WB.

[The Caped Knight]

Catwoman. Nolan just did a ****ing amazing job of cinematically revamping two of Batman's rogues that were previously shat upon by Burton, Schumacher, Pitof, and WB.

I'd like to see Nolan do justice with

1. Catwoman
2. The Riddler
3. The Penguin

Then later on

1. Mr. Freeze
2. Bane
3. Poison Ivy

[Docker2.0]

Why does Riddler need to be a serial killer? The Riddler (if you remove the goofiness) is a fine villain, and can offer us a plot based on meticulous planning and order (while Joker was choas and just doing things to prove his philosophy). He would be a nice change of pace, and give us an excuse to see the detective side of Batman.

Why do we need to make villains serial killers to be cool? Joker is cool and just happens to be a serial killer. I think we should stay true to the characters, and not just completely change them (and Nolan has done a nice job at staying true to the characters).

As for other villains: Black Mask, Catwoman, The Reaper (poor comic villain with lots of unused potential), Mad Hatter, etc. Sure, Clayface, Mr. Freeze, and Killer Croc won't work, but Bats still has many guys to work with.

Oh, and ummmm...Iron Man eh (trying to stay on topic, I really am!)
I'd like to see the Mad Hatter on the big screen but I don't think we will. Out of all the villians you named, probably Black Mask is the one we'd see first.....which would be stupid if Cap's movie comes out cuase he'd be called a Red Skull rip off(which he is). I'm thinking the Calender serial killer or that guy with the dummy on his hand will show up. That or Talia Ah Ghoul....or however you spell it. I had a few beers. :O But I can't see Nolan using the Penguin, Catwoman, or any cartoony character. Why not Catwoman? Can you see THIS Batman showing any mercy on a thief?!

[TheVileOne]

He supposedly wanted to use Penguin for this movie. Why not Catwoman? Get out of this mindset that all these characters have to be cartoony and ridiculous. We are not dealing with Schumacher here. Look what he did with Joker. Look what he did with Two-Face.

Two-Face was cartoony and ridiculous as hell in Forever. But in Dark Knight he was as serious as a heart attack, tragic, menacing, and intense.

We are dealing with legit storytellers and filmmakers that love this material here.

[Docker2.0]

Well for Catwoman to exist, she'd need the kind of bankrole BW has. Penguin would just be an ugly as hell crime boss. I can see Mad Hatter being a disgruntled worker of Wayne Enterprise and wanting to leave.......but I think Riddler or the guy with the dummy on his hand(help me out people!) make the most sense.

[Mauser9910]

Guys, pleaaaaase... :o

[The Caped Knight]

Nolan has done an Incredible job with all The Batman villains as did the actors who protrayed them

1. Heath Ledger as The Joker

2. Aaron Eckhart as Two-Face

3. Liam Neeson as Ra's Al Ghul

4. Cillian Murphy as The Scarecrow

5. Tom Wilkinson as Carmine Falcone

6. Eric Roberts as Salvatore Maroni

[Mauser9910]

PLEASE ! :S

TDK isn't released everywhere yet and there's a forum dedicated to discuss TDK sequels and sing the praise of Nolan and crew, isn't it ?

Could we stay on Marvel grounds ? No one is mentionning the new Wolverine Origins or Punisher trailers so... WTF ? :o

[Spider-Fan]

Well for Catwoman to exist, she'd need the kind of bankrole BW has. Penguin would just be an ugly as hell crime boss. I can see Mad Hatter being a disgruntled worker of Wayne Enterprise and wanting to leave.......but I think Riddler or the guy with the dummy on his hand(help me out people!) make the most sense.

The Ventriloquist is the guy you are thinking of. The dummy is Mr. Scarface

But I still say Riddler and Catowman FTW! Catwoman makes sense cause

Rachel was his hope for a normal life, and now she is gone. Catwoman can be someone whom Bruce has affection for cause she is like him, a person with a dual life (even if she is on the other side of it).

[Spider-Fan]

PLEASE ! :S

TDK isn't released everywhere yet and there's a forum dedicated to discuss TDK sequels and sing the praise of Nolan and crew, isn't it ?

Could we stay on Marvel grounds ? No one is mentionning the new Wolverine Origins or Punisher trailers so... WTF ? :o

I've gotta agree with you on this. We should stay on topic with Iron Man.

[Iron_Stark]

How the F*** did this turn into a Batman discussion?

Damnit, take that s*** to the other forum

[Ironfan72]

Is this the Iron Man boards? I thought I stumbled into the Batman forum.

[Van Petrol]

lol, gotta agree.....lets get back to Iron Man guys...

[Docker2.0]

Ha! I'm a Marvel zombie but got caught up for a minute! Nothing like going into another forum, seeing the batfans make stupid post and make you wish the worst for TDK and hope Marvel comes back with a vengence!
Back to topic: they are going to tie Thor and IM2 together right? But isn't Thor in Asgard? How can SHIELD go there to offer him a position in the Avengers Initiative?

[Ironfan72]

I've heard several rumors on who will make an appearance in IM2, Thor could be one, as well as Blackwidow, Captain America and Hawkeye.
They may not have Thor as much as the Human Thor channels thru to become Thor, does that make sense, I don't know the name of the guy Thor uses to bridge the gap between Asgard and earth.

[I Am The Knight]

How the F*** did this turn into a Batman discussion?

Damnit, take that s*** to the other forum

LOL :hehe:

[RickO'Connell]

Just hit the report button on the idiot Bat Freaks coming here & purposely going off topic

[Mauser9910]

Going back to discussing box office stuff, I was wondering about fan bases.
I've read someone saying an Avengers movie would combine the Iron Man fans, the Cap fans, the Hulk fans, etc...
I really doubt there's such distinctions really, it'd appeal to all/most comic-book fans like your typical cb adaptation would.
Now, would that concept of cross-over would appeal to the general audience ?

I don't know. I just think Marvel got lucky on establishing IM first and having RDJr.
He did such a terrific job and he (and the whole Avengers perspective) will be a great reason for other great names to join the next projects.

[Ironfan72]

I suspect Iron Man's fanbase was slightly larger than the other two, and it got bigger after the film.
I agree that RDJ got lucky being the first of that group as Iron Man did so well at the box office, both domestic and foreign, so that in it's self will draw people for Avengers, it also depends alot on who they cast as Thor and Captain America, I've heard some say that if both Thor and Captain America do well and if IM2 does what everyone expects it will do, that Avengers could have the biggest box office opening in history.

[Mauser9910]

Maybe, maybe...
It's a great thing that the cross-overs have already started with Fury showing up in IM (but only for the harcore fans, I doubt the general audience stayed after the credits) and Stark showing up in TIH.

I wish RDJr could show up in every new Avengers related franchise, but he has already signed for so many movies, I don't know if he could do it... :o

It'd make sense, Stark is essential in the Avengers.

Back to the fan base discussion, I think it MAY expand with Thor. Thor isn't totally tied to super-heroes, he's a relatively well-known God and could really appeal to the audience that loved the LOTR trilogy. Have Hulk or IM show up at the end and... Well, a poster mention a "perfect storm" regarding TDK but that would really apply to the Avengers with so many ties in the upcoming franchises.

I also wish the release schedule wasn't that tight, Cap and the Avengers the same summer ? :\ Plus that could allow Jon Favreau to direct the Avengers, that'd be pretty neat.

[Spider-Fan]

I say use the Cosmic Cube to get Thor invloved. Make it an object Asgardians are aware of (even reference it in Thor), and the search for that would greatly interest Thor (whom knows its true power).

[kyuubijavi1]

PLEASE ! :S

TDK isn't released everywhere yet and there's a forum dedicated to discuss TDK sequels and sing the praise of Nolan and crew, isn't it ?

Could we stay on Marvel grounds ? No one is mentionning the new Wolverine Origins or Punisher trailers so... WTF ? :o

Well the Punisher teaser sucked, but that unreated verision atleast made up for it a bit

and the Wolverine trailer was average at best

so why not talk about the top dog in comic movies right now and ways to see other SH movies try and top it :hehe:


They are going to tie Thor and IM2 together right? But isn't Thor in Asgard? How can SHIELD go there to offer him a position in the Avengers Initiative?

They can easily have Thor come down wanting to challnge the hulk like in that 70's movie or have him be the way he is in ultimate's there are many way's they can tie him in to the avenger's movie

[Spider-Fan]

There's a Wolverine trailer?

[GreenKToo]

I've heard several rumors on who will make an appearance in IM2, Thor could be one, as well as Blackwidow, Captain America and Hawkeye.
They may not have Thor as much as the Human Thor channels thru to become Thor, does that make sense, I don't know the name of the guy Thor uses to bridge the gap between Asgard and earth.
Donald Blake.

[Ironfan72]

Donald Blake.
Thank you, I couldn't for the life of me think of his name, much appreciated :im:

[dragonjo8]

This post is for TheVileOne...

1st, a couple of statements...

It is not my intent to turn this into a TDK discussion. I AM FULLY AWARE THIS IS AN IRON MAN BOARD!!!

I am a fan of ALL comic book movies (DC/Marvel/Dark Horse, etc.). I was very pleased (and somewhat surprised) at how well Ironman did at the BO.

Having said that...in light of the fact TDK has now passed IM, what do you think it's final figures will be?

You called 300 million for IM pretty early on (which, I must admit, I was skeptical) and pretty much nailed the final numbers (315 million) right on the head. You obviously have an insight most do not possess.

So...what do you think TDK's final numbers will be?

[FlawlessVictory]

This post is for TheVileOne...

1st, a couple of statements...

It is not my intent to turn this into a TDK discussion. I AM FULLY AWARE THIS IS AN IRON MAN BOARD!!!

I am a fan of ALL comic book movies (DC/Marvel/Dark Horse, etc.). I was very pleased (and somewhat surprised) at how well Ironman did at the BO.

Having said that...in light of the fact TDK has now passed IM, what do you think it's final figures will be?

You called 300 million for IM pretty early on (which, I must admit, I was skeptical) and pretty much nailed the final numbers (315 million) right on the head. You obviously have an insight most do not possess.

So...what do you think TDK's final numbers will be?


You haven't been following all his posts have you:

Iron Man is the first movie of the year to break the $300 million mark. Iron Man broke $300 million in less than SEVEN weeks of release. And still counting. Iron Man will still have the rest of June and more than likely most of July in theatres to rake in more dough.

Bring it on Dark Knight. I think fans expecting Dark Knight to make $350 million or however are in for a rude awakening.

The only movie that has a shot at challening Iron Man this summer is The Dark Knight, and I believe it will fall short.

Once again, in any movie summer the first comic book or super hero movie released first will do the best at the BO. Hulk, Wanted, Hellboy 2, and Batman all fall short of Iron Man.

This is all backlash because Iron Man is the best movie of the summer and is the BO king.

Once again, the first comic book super hero movie of any summer will always do the most business.

:cwink:

[dragonjo8]

You haven't been following all his posts have you:

:cwink:

Ummm...No I haven't. As you can see from the paltry number of posts I have made, I don't spend a lot of time here.

Geez...I totally missed all the TDK bashing Mr. Vile dished out. I guess he's not the BO guru I thought he was as he totally dropped the ball with regard to TDK. Oh well...anyone else have any predictions on final numbers?

[Mac_Hine]

Dude just go to the box office thread on the TDK forums and you'll get plenty of predictions there. I'm a big fan of TDK as much as the next guy but this is an IM thread.

[C. Lee]

As has been said before....this is the Iron Man forums....if you want to talk about The Dark Knight, go to his forums.

[Tony Stark]

I wonder if the actors in these movies read any of these fanboy peeing contests and laugh their heads off.

TDK, IM, TIH and Hellboy were all great movies, and whatever BO success or lack there of they had, I have to say this was the best summer ever for comic book fans.

[Mauser9910]

so why not talk about the top dog in comic movies right now and ways to see other SH movies try and top it :hehe:

Aaaah, yeees... Spider-Man. :word: :cwink:

Tying IM2 with Thor could be very simple : either Donald Blake or Loki could be around.
It made me actually think about - and it's ok, there's no Thor forum (yet)- the need for 2 actors for Thor ! :O
One playing Don Blake, the other Thor ; there could be some Fight Club stuff in that ! :woot:
I don't want them to go the Clark Kent way, like when Thor was posing as that construction guy with the glasses and the ponytail. ..

[hatebox]

Good God, TDK is raking it in. Some movies are just in the right place at the right time I guess.

Anyway, has Iron Man moved into the cheaper theaters yet? How much do movies usually make from those things? What do we expect IM's final dom BO to be?

[dragonjo8]

Dude just go to the box office thread on the TDK forums and you'll get plenty of predictions there. I'm a big fan of TDK as much as the next guy but this is an IM thread.

Ummm....as I stated before...I KNOW THIS IS AN IM THREAD. As many of you have pointed out...batfans tend to be, shall we say, a tad bit overzealous when it comes to making their BO predictions for TDK. Hell...many of them are predicting it will topple Titanic, which I think is pretty unreasonable domestically and absolutely impossible worldwide.

I was looking for an estimate that would be more realistic and TheVileOne, at the time, seemed to have a finger on the pulse of the moviegoing public. I was obviously wrong.

In light of this, I spent quite a bit of time reading through this thread to see if I could find another person with a somewhat unbiased view (which, as I'm sure you are aware, is extremely difficult to find in TDK threads). What I discovered, instead, was quite a bit of IM gloating (pre TDK release) and TDK trash talking (that appeared to go unchecked, mind you) while IM was BO king. Now that TDK has surpassed IM (BO performance wise) many tend to have a pissy attitude, which is understandable, I suppose, as nobody likes to eat crow. But, come on. This is really an entire genre we're talking about here. We should all be glad TDK is performing as well as it has. I know I was tickled at IM's success. As I said before, I don't think it will come close to Titanic's domestic gross, but wouldn't it be amazing to have a COMIC BOOK character take second place?!?

[Ironfan72]

Good God, TDK is raking it in. Some movies are just in the right place at the right time I guess.

Anyway, has Iron Man moved into the cheaper theaters yet? How much do movies usually make from those things? What do we expect IM's final dom BO to be?

I think last week was the official last week at first run theaters for Iron Man, it should be making it's way to dollar theaters very soon, I suspect it's final numbers look like $315 Million Domestic, which is fantastic.
Kudo's to TDK for raking in the money, having two legit superhero films break the $300 million mark in one year is only good for the genre.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, Hollywood really can't make many excuses this year.

Comic book super hero movies are staying, and they aren't going away anytime soon.

I really did not believe Iron Man and Dark Knight could be THIS huge. I figured like $300 million max for Dark Knight and hopefully like $250 million for Iron Man.

Very few movies have bombed this summer. The only real legit bombs have been Speed Racer, The Love Guru, and The X-Files. I think you could maybe argue The Happening for the sheer amount of hatred against, plus the fact that its weekend drops were tremendous and it probably hasn't even broken even in theatres. This is pretty terrible now that M. Night is supposed to be going forward with Avatar. I really think he's the absolutely wrong guy for that material.

What was really silly is that after Iron Man performed how it did, I didn't think anything was going to surpass it, not even another comic book/super hero film.

First of all, I wasn't bashing Dark Knight. I loved Dark Knight and thought it was great. I simply got caught up in Iron Man fever. I was simply making a prediction based on past events.

However, with regards to most of the movies falling short of Iron Man, I was right. And I was indeed right about Dark Knight having the only chance of challenging Iron Man for the BO crown. I was simply wrong about it falling short.

All of the other stuff is just bravado because people here take the BO of some of these movies very seriously. Especially when some guys make entire threads urging people to go out and see the movie more in order to save its BO. Which doesn't really do anything.

I was only right about Iron Man doing $300 million because the math was there. When I saw that it could've gotten that high, I felt hey maybe it can even go as high as $320 or even higher. That didn't happen because of everything else, but Iron Man still managed to cement itself in the way most movies dream of doing.

Saying the competition is too tough is really meaningless when you look at all these other successful pictures that have managed big money in a crowded summer season.

[Raiden]

Yeah, Hollywood really can't make many excuses this year.

Comic book super hero movies are staying, and they aren't going away anytime soon.

I really did not believe Iron Man and Dark Knight could be THIS huge. I figured like $300 million max for Dark Knight and hopefully like $250 million for Iron Man.

Very few movies have bombed this summer. The only real legit bombs have been Speed Racer, The Love Guru, and The X-Files. I think you could maybe argue The Happening for the sheer amount of hatred against, plus the fact that its weekend drops were tremendous and it probably hasn't even broken even in theatres. This is pretty terrible now that M. Night is supposed to be going forward with Avatar. I really think he's the absolutely wrong guy for that material.

What was really silly is that after Iron Man performed how it did, I didn't think anything was going to surpass it, not even another comic book/super hero film.

First of all, I wasn't bashing Dark Knight. I loved Dark Knight and thought it was great. I simply got caught up in Iron Man fever. I was simply making a prediction based on past events.

However, with regards to most of the movies falling short of Iron Man, I was right. And I was indeed right about Dark Knight having the only chance of challenging Iron Man for the BO crown. I was simply wrong about it falling short.

All of the other stuff is just bravado because people here take the BO of some of these movies very seriously. Especially when some guys make entire threads urging people to go out and see the movie more in order to save its BO. Which doesn't really do anything.

I was only right about Iron Man doing $300 million because the math was there. When I saw that it could've gotten that high, I felt hey maybe it can even go as high as $320 or even higher. That didn't happen because of everything else, but Iron Man still managed to cement itself in the way most movies dream of doing.

Saying the competition is too tough is really meaningless when you look at all these other successful pictures that have managed big money in a crowded summer season.

I agree. I love TDK but I do think this is a case of perfect storm, which all the chips fall on the right place, and it probably benefitted alot from Heath Ledger's untimely death (which generated alot of publicity). I initially thought that TDK would do around IM's BO, but maybe not surpassing it, but obviously it did (in 10 days no less), but since it's a fine film I don't really mind. In fact, having two 300+ million superhero movies in one summer is great for the genre. Hollywood will want to make more of these kind of movies, which means movies based on Thor, Cap, WW, GL, etc. will eventually be made. Us fans are the biggest winner here.

[vindrow]

As has been said before....this is the Iron Man forums....if you want to talk about The Dark Knight, go to his forums.



It seems that even C. Lee can't stop people from takling about that movie in teh IM forums:csad:

[TheVileOne]

The ball is really in Marvel's court right now. Hulk wasn't huge, so their next stuff has to be mega-big.

I mean, I think its awesome if they can get their own studio lot. It's ambitious but it would mean a lot for the company. For a comic company to turn into a thriving movie studio with its own studio lot.

I mean maybe Marvel for example could even start licensing out other properties. While I'm not sure if that's problematic or not, but you know why not? I think if the guys running Marvel get those properties and those characters, and get talented people working on them, I see no reason why they can't work that kind of magic on say something like a videogame or random toyline.

[Kargo Warrior]

I wonder if the actors in these movies read any of these fanboy peeing contests and laugh their heads off.

TDK, IM, TIH and Hellboy were all great movies, and whatever BO success or lack there of they had, I have to say this was the best summer ever for comic book fans.

Completelly agreed...and even though i was deemed a ''troll'' just because of one post it's all good.

I loved Iron Man as much as the next guy...to be honest it brought me back my enthusiasm for Marvel movies after last year's Spider-Man 3 and i cant wait for Iron Man 2.

The more great movies like these,the better for us the fans...just to think that 7-8 years ago all these movies made with imagination,talent and respect for it's characters,this acclaim(critical and audience) was the dream of the most hardcore comic book fans...and now fans are fighting over which superhero has the bigger weenie(pardon my expression)?

The more IM's,TDK's and Hellboy's ...the less Ghost Riders,Fantastic Four and Catwoman's...that's all i could really wish for and i hope i'm not the only one.

[nimrod]

^^^^Yeah, yeah. It's great when your fav Superhero is performing great at the BO.
But it's greater to know that these movies will continue to be made and well.

[Docker2.0]

Fantastic Four was not as bad as some of you say. :whatever:

ps-may be drunk.

[Spider-Fan]

Overall, they are not as bad as people say.

Dr. Doom of the FF movies, on the other hand, is WORSE than people say.

[Downhere]

I'm probably in the minority but I really liked the Fantastic Four films and Part 2 was pretty awesome IMO.

[Docker2.0]

Yes, part 2 was awesome, though Doom was not. SS carried the film and dude was......wow! :O

[Heretic]

Not only was Doom absolutely atrocious in every concievable way, but let us not forget that the entire point of the movie was to battle a giant cloud!!

Both FF movies were garbage...and when you look at The Joker, compared to Dr Doom, it really shows.

But on topic...Iron man is still barely holding off Indy 4. This really will be a race to finish...

[Tony Stark]

I'm probably in the minority but I really liked the Fantastic Four films and Part 2 was pretty awesome IMO.

Yeah, I kinda like them myself. Really if you compare them to the Superman movies (which were completely full of campyness) they are actually pretty good. I'd put both FF movies ahead of Superman 2-4, Batman Returns - Batman & Robin, and some other films like Spawn.

Those films are what they are, sure they aren't going to win any awards, but I thought they were pretty representative of the comics.

I'm also in the minority in that I kinda liked Juilian McMahon as Doom. He's got the extreme vanity stuff down pat.

[TheVileOne]

Tony Stark, ever heard the words, "damning with faint praise?" Because I mean . . . saying its better than movies like that is not exactly all that special.

[Tony Stark]

But on topic...Iron man is still barely holding off Indy 4. This really will be a race to finish...

What does that matter. 2nd biggest opening for a non-sequel is pretty damn good, and with a character who is not well known like Spidey or Batman.

Indy 4 probably underperformed a bit. But I guess the nostalgia folks like me weren't enough to fuel that film past where it is now.

[Tony Stark]

Tony Stark, ever heard the words, "damning with faint praise?" Because I mean . . . saying its better than movies like that is not exactly all that special.

What I meant to say is the films aren't as bad as people make them out to be. Really they got the characters and the tone of the comics spot on.

I'm not going to compare it with Iron Man, Spider-man or The Dark Knight, because it's obviously not in that vein, but I enjoyed it none the less.

[Docker2.0]

Exactly! The F4 are kind of campy in their comics so to say the tone wasn't like it was in the comics is to be a winy fanboy. Like I said earlier, only Doom and the look of Galactus was off.

[TheVileOne]

Docker, don't call me something you can't even spell right. I'm sorry, I am sick of hearing excuses like that.

The comics have heart where the movies do not. Yes the comics were campy. But ultimately it came out of how familial the group was. The movies killed that dynamic for a very dumb, watered down, cliffnotes version of it. Reed was never that much of a wuss. He wasn't a timid.

Now its fine if you feel differently, but don't call me a whiney fanboy because I don't like it.

[Docker2.0]

Stop being so dang gone sensitive! I wasn't talking about anyone in particular. :whatever: And even though you didn't like the F4 movies a lot of people did, its just that the people who didn't are a lot more vocal about it.
PS- I didn't misspell whiny. I spelled it winy cause of drunk whiny fanboys. :o

[I Am The Knight]

To summarize my views on the Fantastic Four franchise, and to quote Dennis Hopper while doing so:

"The FF franchise is like a river of s**t...From which Fox planned to extract some gold."

[C. Lee]

Now its fine if you feel differently, but don't call me a whiney fanboy because I don't like it.

It's ok to call you Vile but not whiney.....ohhhkaaaaayyyyyyy.

[Docker2.0]

Ah crap! Thanks for giving me bowel relief in my pants Lee! :cmad: I saw you replied after my post and thought I got banned! :csad:

[Upset Spideyfan]

So according to Newsarama, Paramounts pulled Iron Man and Indy from theaters meaning Iron Man should end up being the #2 movie of the year.

[CaptainStacy]

So according to Newsarama, Paramounts pulled Iron Man and Indy from theaters meaning Iron Man should end up being the #2 movie of the year.

Domestically, yes.

Not bad for a character that many felt was B list at best...:word:

[TheVileOne]

Well worldwide, Iron Man is very far behind Crystal Skull.

[Spider-Fan]

Bravo Iron Man :up:

Marvel, Paramount, and the cast and crew of this fine film deserve all the credit for their probable #2 Domestic ranking :im:

[Anita18]

So according to Newsarama, Paramounts pulled Iron Man and Indy from theaters meaning Iron Man should end up being the #2 movie of the year.
That's a bit early, isn't it? Usually films go to second-run theaters before they get pulled entirely, and Indy is only in its 11th week. Box Office Mojo usually tracks films until their 20th week, so I thought 20 weeks in release was the industry standard.

Unless the film is really doing poorly, but that isn't the case for IM or Indy. :oldrazz:

[Upset Spideyfan]

I dunno. I don't pretend to be an expert in such matters.

[Heretic]

What does that matter. 2nd biggest opening for a non-sequel is pretty damn good, and with a character who is not well known like Spidey or Batman.

Indy 4 probably underperformed a bit. But I guess the nostalgia folks like me weren't enough to fuel that film past where it is now.

It matters because I get a kick out of seeing comic book movies do very well. If for some reason harry Potter doesnt outgross it domestically then Iron Man should end the year as the second biggest movie of 08, which is great for Marvel, and great for us as fans. With another great comic movie in first place it sends a message to studios...make GREAT movies and you will make more money (thats not always true, but I hope they get that message anyway).

[TheVileOne]

Robert Downey Jr. for best actor :D .

[Spider-Vader]

What does that matter. 2nd biggest opening for a non-sequel is pretty damn good, and with a character who is not well known like Spidey or Batman.

Indy 4 probably underperformed a bit. But I guess the nostalgia folks like me weren't enough to fuel that film past where it is now.

??? 300 + mil is very good for a franchise that hadn't seen a movie in 19 years. Does Indy have any chance of beating IM? It only needs 1 million more, can rank in that?

[Kargo Warrior]

That's not true at all..Iron Man is in $ theaters this weekend:

Theater counts for this weekend:

Iron Man:407....133 more than last weekend
Indy:332...145 less than last weekend

[Ironman24]

I'm very happy Iron Man did so well, as a character that most of the world had no idea about to make $300+ million domestic is fanastic and beyond my wildist dreams as a fan of the character. Now Iron Man is a household name, a sequal is a go, all is good in shellheads world and i couldn't be happier.

[CaptainStacy]

I'm very happy Iron Man did so well, as a character that most of the world had no idea about to make $300+ million domestic is fanastic and beyond my wildist dreams as a fan of the character. Now Iron Man is a household name, a sequal is a go, all is good in shellheads world and i couldn't be happier.

Plus; the comic books are also kicking ass. :up:

[Anita18]

That's not true at all..Iron Man is in $ theaters this weekend:

Theater counts for this weekend:

Iron Man:407....133 more than last weekend
Indy:332...145 less than last weekend
Ah, so IM has reached the cheap theaters and Indy has yet to. Makes sense.

[<borkis>]

Ah, so IM has reached the cheap theaters and Indy has yet to. Makes sense.

That must be it... Iron Man just jumped up 80% from last weekend to pull in another $561,000.

[TheVileOne]

Damn, I just noticed this. Iron Man still has some life in it. $316 million is now assured.

Now it might be a longshot guys, but could we maybe start talking $320 million again?

[Downhere]

Damn, I just noticed this. Iron Man still has some life in it. $316 million is now assured.

Now it might be a longshot guys, but could we maybe start talking $320 million again?

I don't think there's enough in the tank for $320 million, but possibly $318 million could be doable.

[TheVileOne]

$320 million means it beats Transformers. Which after Don Murphy opened his big, fat, ugly mouth I really want to happen.

[Tighelander]

Wow. Iron Man has surprised me by staying in the theaters so long, and beating Indy 4. The success of TDK finally achieves the status the world's second best superhero should have earned in the nineties.

[TheVileOne]

Well it's still kind of like barely ahead of Indy 4's US take. But if it could manage a few more weeks of $500,000 plus, that could put it over $317 million at the least.