Based On The Ledger Casting - Who Do You Think Will Be Cast As Dent?

[JokerNick]

Betty White for Dent!!!

[7Hells]

So now I have no idea what is going on in BB2. Could you guys fill me in? I know Joker is going to be in it. What about Catwoman?
There are quite a few threads on all of that. And they are at the top of the page, so, keep reading :D

[7Hells]

Betty White for Dent!!!
*gives JokerNick a Vinnie Jones ***** slap*

[Superman79]

William Shatner for Dent!!

"Denny Cra...er...Harvey Dent!"

[fangrl06]

There are quite a few threads on all of that. And they are at the top of the page, so, keep reading :D
Come on, don't do that to me...

[JokerNick]

*gives JokerNick a Vinnie Jones ***** slap*

I'd fight back, but my GF is pulling me into the basement as I type......

TORNADO WARNING!!!!

[StorminNorman]

Okay, so I didn't like BB very much when I saw it in theaters so I stayed away from the Batman threads. I saw it again last weekend and thought it was wonderful. So now I have no idea what is going on in BB2. Could you guys fill me in? I know Joker is going to be in it. What about Catwoman?

I will try to do that my fair lady.

Joker will be played by Heath Ledger. He will not show up in final form until half way though the movie. His backstory will be told, perhaps through flashbacks.

Harvey Dent will fight crime along with Gordon and Batman.

Mob Bosses will still have a hand in Gotham Crime. It is rumored that either Rupert Thorne or Sal Maroni will play the normal "Godfather" like Mob Boss. It is also rumored that Black Mask may be a "freak" Mob Boss (freak meaning normal Batman psyco).

The Penguin may have a cameo roll as an Arms Dealer.

Everything in italics is speculation at best.

[Superman79]

Come on, don't do that to me...

hey fangrl...miss your pretty face in the Super forums :D

[StorminNorman]

Also Fangrl, I urge you to read the BATMAN SEQUEL FAQ made by Batman. It is at the top of the forum.

[fangrl06]

I will try to do that my fair lady.

Joker will be played by Heath Ledger. He will not show up in final form until half way though the movie. His backstory will be told, perhaps through flashbacks.

Harvey Dent will fight crime along with Gordon and Batman.

Mob Bosses will still have a hand in Gotham Crime. It is rumored that either Rupert Thorne or Sal Maroni will play the normal "Godfather" like Mob Boss. It is also rumored that Black Mask may be a "freak" Mob Boss (freak meaning normal Batman psyco).

The Penguin may have a cameo roll as an Arms Dealer.

Everything in italics is speculation at best.
Thankyou kind sir....okay, sounds good but no Catwoman?

[7Hells]

Come on, don't do that to me...
Whats that, make you read? lol
Im not the pandering type :D

[fangrl06]

hey fangrl...miss your pretty face in the Super forums :D
hmm?

[fangrl06]

Also Fangrl, I urge you to read the BATMAN SEQUEL FAQ made by Batman. It is at the top of the forum.
Thanks again.

[fangrl06]

Whats that, make you read? lol
Im not the pandering type :D
Hey! There's just so much info to go over.

[StorminNorman]

Thanks again.

No problem :D

As far as Catwoman, there has been nothing on her being in the sequel. But I do believe it was rumored that Selina Kyle (her alter ego) may be at the end of the movie - or maybe it was a fan idea I read on the Hype...they are mixed together now :(

[7Hells]

Hey! There's just so much info to go over.
Thats why information is considered informative :p
Normin's suggestion is a good one also http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244230
will fill you in on speculation and fact.

[JokerNick]

Clayface!!!!!!!!!!!

[Superman79]

hmm?

that was a cheesy hello :(

[Superman79]

Clayface!!!!!!!!!!!

WHERE!?!?! :eek:

[Ronny Shade]

how does Norm feel about the Pheonix issue?

[JokerNick]

WHERE!?!?! :eek:

behind you!!!!

get out the way!!!

[Ronny Shade]

*sploorrtssxxorz*

[fangrl06]

that was a cheesy hello :(
lol....oh, hi.

[StorminNorman]

how does Norm feel about the Pheonix issue?

Norm would be pleased with Pheonix. I bought the Walk the Line CD just to hear him sing.:up: Of course I am in no way advocating for Harvey Dent to sing, unless he really wants to.

[Superman79]

behind you!!!!

get out the way!!!

Ack!! :eek:

[Superman79]

Norm would be pleased with Pheonix. I bought the Walk the Line CD just to hear him sing.:up: Of course I am in no way advocating for Harvey Dent to sing, unless he really wants to.

he could do a duet...with himself!! :D

[JokerNick]

I fell into a burning ring of fire, I went down down down, and the flames went higher, and it burned burned burned,
that ring of fire
I burned in that place
now they call me Two face

[Milkman95]

Phoenix would be superb.

[Nightwing]

Thanks again.

Just a tad reminder. On the FAQ thread, you already asked if she'd be in the sequel. And I responded. :D



So, Catwoman is probably going to be in this one then? Cool....

Probably. The whole rumor of Catwoman being in the sequel, wasn't close at all to being anything official. It was only Jett's opinion for speaking if Rachel Dawes wouldn't return, and if the sequel was going to be heavliy based on The Long Halloween. Thus meaning Selina would be apart of it as the new female lead.

Phoenix would be superb.

His name really needs to be "in the mix" of it all again. He has all the qualities needed for someone like Harvey.

[Superman79]

Phoenix would be superb.

He would, and Harvey is just the type of deep conflicted role that Pheonix LOVES...

[gvcool2]

I don't think pheonix is good looking enough

[fangrl06]

Just a tad reminder. On the FAQ thread, you already asked if she'd be in the sequel. And I responded. :D








His name really needs to be "in the mix" of it all again. He has all the qualities needed for someone like Harvey.
Wow....you know I think I remember that, but it wasn't for sure. Wow you guys have been really helpful. Are you like this all the time or is it just a shock to have a girl on here?...j/k

[Superman79]

Wow....you know I think I remember that, but it wasn't for sure. Wow you guys have been really helpful. Are you like this all the time or is it just a shock to have a girl on here?...j/k

ok, as a girl...is Joaquin Pheonix good looking? gvcool doesn't think he's good looking enough for Harvey...


BTW-We are gentlemen in this forum and help any lady who requests it ;)

[Milkman95]

I don't think pheonix is good looking enough

Really? I think he's good looking enough to be believable in the part. It's not like he's Dustin Diamond.

[JokerNick]

Kramer for Two Face!!!

[newwaveboy87]

are you a female or homosexual male? because if not, that probably explains it.
i'm a dirty lil' emo ***.

[fangrl06]

ok, as a girl...is Joaquin Pheonix good looking? gvcool doesn't think he's good looking enough for Harvey...


BTW-We are gentlemen in this forum and help any lady who requests it ;)
Thankyou Superman79. Personaly I don't find Joaquin Pheonix attractive. So, no.

[JokerNick]

NWB^ Understatment of the year

[newwaveboy87]

**** you JokerNick :D

[fangrl06]

lmao...nice.

[gvcool2]

he's good looking...but doesn't have that charisma that adds to Dents vein attitudes

[Superman79]

ok, so joaquin is in if we don't want a pretty Dent...so...McConaghey?

[7Hells]

ok, as a girl...is Joaquin Pheonix good looking? gvcool doesn't think he's good looking enough for Harvey...
Definately good looking enough. I would only be worried about his physical performance.
BTW-We are gentlemen in this forum and help any lady who requests it ;)
Umm, dude, youve got a bit of...on your nose...right there, ya. ;)

[newwaveboy87]

McConaughey can't act. :down

[fangrl06]

ok, so joaquin is in if we don't want a pretty Dent...so...McConaghey?
Maybe...

[fangrl06]

Definately good looking enough. I would only be worried about his physical performance.

Umm, dude, youve got a bit of...on your nose...right there, ya. ;)
lmao...

[gvcool2]

ok, so joaquin is in if we don't want a pretty Dent...so...McConaghey?

nah i don't want McCona...whatever his name is either, what about christian bale :)

[Superman79]

Umm, dude, youve got a bit of...on your nose...right there, ya. ;)

you suck :p :D

I was giving all of us credit...cause frankly we ARE more well behaved than the Super-Forum crowd...:o

[JokerNick]

**** you JokerNick :D

lol...... right back at ya....

[JokerNick]

McConaughey can't act. :down

uummm,

"that's what I love about high school girls, I get older, they stay the same age"

[fangrl06]

you suck :p :D

I was giving all of us credit...cause frankly we ARE more well behaved than the Super-Forum crowd...:o
*cough*
Wait what? Okay, you guys have been nice, but I'm on here less than 5min and JokerNick is trying to seduce me. That almost never happens in the Super-Forums....well it does but I have longer than 5min.

[JokerNick]

^ Lol

[Superman79]

*cough*
Wait what? Okay, you guys have been nice, but I'm on here less than 5min and JokerNick is trying to seduce me. That almost never happens in the Super-Forums....well it does but I have longer than 5min.

Well, JokerNick, is a little...different...but he's cool.

It's just been a while since a female has graced this particular thread...so ...um...he's...lonely :O

[JokerNick]

Don't be hating on me......... I'm just kind of crazy

[fangrl06]

I'm just kidding....I just find it funny that he said that.

[JokerNick]

I'm just kidding....I just find it funny that he said that.

said what?

[fangrl06]

said what?
That the Bat-fans are well behaved.

[JokerNick]

That the Bat-fans are well behaved.

no were not, yesterday someone on here had sex with a donkey........ it was nuts

Superman79 was throwing nuts at the Donkey too.....

[7Hells]

It's just been a while since a female has graced this particular thread.
lol

[fangrl06]

lol
are you a female? I was just wondering because you laughed.

[7Hells]

ok, so joaquin is in if we don't want a pretty Dent...so...McConaghey?
You should be shot in the foot for suggesting that.

[7Hells]

are you a female?
Not on forums where I like to actually talk about comics, no.

[Superman79]

no were not, yesterday someone on here had sex with a donkey........ it was nuts

Superman79 was throwing nuts at the Donkey too.....

????:confused:

LMAO :D

[JokerNick]

It's just been a while since a female has graced this particular thread...so ...um...he's...lonely :O


ummm. NewWaveBoy is on here all the time...

[Superman79]

You should be shot in the foot for suggesting that.

it was suggested earlier...in regards to his preformance in "Two for the Money", which was quite good...so who knows... *shrug*

[fangrl06]

Not on forums where I like to actually talk about comics, no.
:eek: you're trans!

[Superman79]

ummm. NewWaveBoy is on here all the time...

LOL...Oh Snap...:D

NWB, you gonna take that??

[JokerNick]

that's not all he wants to "take"









lol, sorry man, you know i;m kidding

[fangrl06]

I'm going to leave before this gets ugly.

[JokerNick]

same here!!!

[7Hells]

it was suggested earlier...in regards to his preformance in "Two for the Money", which was quite good...so who knows... *shrug*
Is that the one with Al Pacino and all the betting and stuff?
If so, good movie, but McConaughey played the same character he always does.
A swaggering ladies man that has a troubled past but always ends up smiling.

[Milkman95]

Forget McConaughey, he just wouldn't fit in a production this classy. Go with Phoenix, Howard, Owen, or someone else along those lines. Watch Nolan go leftfield with this one again.

[Two-Face]

I was watched Road to Perdition and I thought Jude Law would be good DA Harvey Dent specially he can capture the bad Harvey's dark side.

[Nightwing]

I was watched Road to Perdition and I thought Jude Law would be good DA Harvey Dent specially he can capture the bad Harvey's dark side.

Law was rumored at one point for the role. And along with Schreiber who's still a leading candidate, there's a chance he may be as well.

[Super_Ludacris]

The irony of all this is that I could see Heath playing Dent more than I can him playing Joker (the man's a good actor dont get me wrong)

[newwaveboy87]

that's not all he wants to "take"









lol, sorry man, you know i;m kidding
don't flatter yourself :o

[newwaveboy87]

uummm,

"that's what I love about high school girls, I get older, they stay the same age"
somehow i doubt he was acting in that role...

[7Hells]

Jude Law has my vote...




...for Batgirl.

[Winter Spleen]

I'd like to see Matt Dillon.

[newwaveboy87]

Matt Dillion is a good actor :confused:
for Two-Face? not really

[Winter Spleen]

I think the person cast should at least be middle-aged. He's the DA of a large city... he's not going to be thirty years old.

[Winter Spleen]

Matt Dillion is a good actor :confused:
for Two-Face? not really

I liked him in Crash and To Die For... the only two movies I've ever seen him in.

[Flexo]

I'd like to see Matt Dillon.

Matt Damon you mean. :mad:

[Winter Spleen]

Why not? And how would you know this?

A District Attorney holds the highest office in the jurisdiction's legal department... normally they are elected. And in a large city, where politics are not taken for granted, a young guy just a few years out of law school is not going to hold the district attorney's position. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's highly implausible.

[7Hells]

hehe, I love talking about plausibility in comics!

[CConn]

Matt Damon you mean. :mad:He'll be too busy being Captain Kirk and having unprotected sex with Matt Damon.

[CConn]

hehe, I love talking about plausibility in comics!This isn't comics..

[Flexo]

He'll be too busy being Captain Kirk and having unprotected sex with Matt Damon.

In the 1700's in powdered wigs. :o

Oh, yes...Winter Spleen, zer00 sends regards.

[Winter Spleen]

hehe, I love talking about plausibility in comics!

I was just trying to over compensate for my seemingly obvious shame of wanting Jesse McCartney for the role of Dent.

http://jessemccartney.w.interia.pl/jesse204.jpg


I wish he could wear a little mini-cape around the office too. That'd be soo cute.

[Excel]

It Wont Be Liev Schreiber He I Smarried To Heaths Ex.

[Winter Spleen]

In the 1700's in powdered wigs. :o

Oh, yes...Winter Spleen, zer00 sends regards.

Is he under your desk?:(

[Flexo]

Is he under your desk?:(

Behind the curtains. The ones to your left.

[Winter Spleen]

Behind the curtains. The ones to your left.

Aw, if you had only said right. tsk, tsk.

[7Hells]

This isn't comics..
Oh I dont know about that.
However realistic Nolan chooses to make these movies there will always be unbelievable comic book aspects.
If he wants to explain Dent's fast rise in his profession to counter casting a young actor logically he could do it easy.
Dent has never been older than Wayne in my eyes and he has always acted younger.
Plausibility can fly out the window in movies just as fast as it does in comics.
Thats whats so great about movies :D

If movies were all about plausibility and realism they wouldnt make half as much money as they do.

[batman7289]

schreiber for dent

[newwaveboy87]

Jesse McCartney is such a ***.:o

[newwaveboy87]

he's not attractive but ok. :) :up:
he also looks like he's about 13...eww

[StorminNorman]

Isnt he a clone of Aaron Carter or something?

[newwaveboy87]

they're both hideous. so what does it matter?
back on topic!!

[7Hells]

I'm sure Winter Spleen was joking :p

[R_Hythlodeus]

:D so..what about Jaleel White?

[Konee Rok]

We all know that Billy Dee Wlliams played Harvey Dent in the original Batman don't we...
That wouldve been dope I think.

In the 1989 - 1997 Batman film franchise, Billy Dee Williams (an African American actor) appeared as a pre-disfigurement Dent in Batman (1989). Apparently, Williams signed for this role knowing that D.A. Dent was to become Two-Face in further installments of the franchise. He wrote his contract so that, should the character appear in a sequel, Williams was to play it or he would receive an amount of money. However, when Two-Face was to became the main villain in the third movie, director Tim Burton had abdicated to Joel Schumacher, who decided to hire Tommy Lee Jones, and agreed to pay Williams for his cooperation allowing them to use the character.

[7Hells]

:D so..what about Jaleel White?
You bastard, you totally just made me google Urkle :p

[R_Hythlodeus]

You bastard, you totally just made me google Urkle :p
he he he

[Two-Face]

Law was rumored at one point for the role. And along with Schreiber who's still a leading candidate, there's a chance he may be as well.


I would love it if Law got it but Schreiber is the man for the job.:up:

[Superman79]

in regards to strange castings...

Luke Wilson for Dent!! :p

[Flexo]

in regards to strange castings...

Luke Wilson for Dent!! :p

Ron Perlman, damn you! :mad:

[Ronny Shade]

Norm would be pleased with Pheonix. I bought the Walk the Line CD just to hear him sing.:up: Of course I am in no way advocating for Harvey Dent to sing, unless he really wants to.
lmao. That'd be amazing "Harvey sings the classics" "The Harvey Dent Christmas Album: Hear what Christmas is like on BOTH sides of the law!"

[Ronny Shade]

Ron Perlman, damn you! :mad:
Is it time for me to start bat-foruming at night again?

[Flexo]

Is it time for me to start bat-foruming at night again?

Only if you use the darkness to promote the cause.

[Ronny Shade]

Something....elemental, something terrifying....

[JokerNick]

best two-face....woody allen

actually Clive Owen would be GREAT!!!

[Ronny Shade]

Clive Owen's got the look down no question. I'm just worried about his accent. Unlike Maconaughey, who's accent could pass, as it is american (I think it's really important that Harvey be an American) Clive's accent is decidedly UK. And I've also never heard Clive loose his accent.

[Superman79]

Clive Owen's got the look down no question. I'm just worried about his accent. Unlike Maconaughey, who's accent could pass, as it is american (I think it's really important that Harvey be an American) Clive's accent is decidedly UK. And I've also never heard Clive loose his accent.

If they give him enough time with a good voice coach...he's a good enough actor he could likely learn to drop it pretty quick

[Ronny Shade]

if that's true, then I'm all for owen.



but pheonix is still better

[Superman79]

if that's true, then I'm all for owen.



but pheonix is still better

voice coach worked for Mel Gibson...and I think Jackman as well...

Frankly they are my top two... I could live with either

[7Hells]

I dont think I've seen Clive in enough movies to know if he could pull off Dent.
All of the ones I can think of he just plays the same character.
Pheonix is alright but Gyllenhaal is still my choice and Bana is second.

[gvcool2]

Clive Owen's got the look down no question. I'm just worried about his accent. Unlike Maconaughey, who's accent could pass, as it is american (I think it's really important that Harvey be an American) Clive's accent is decidedly UK. And I've also never heard Clive loose his accent.

he had an american accent in sin city and derailed, albeit not a very good one but with some work

[gvcool2]

I dont think I've seen Clive in enough movies to know if he could pull off Dent.
All of the ones I can think of he just plays the same character.
Pheonix is alright but Gyllenhaal is still my choice and Bana is second.

watch Closer and compare that to any of his other films and tell me he plays the same character, I happen to have a weak spot for his closer performance as I played the same role in a production

[Ronny Shade]

If that was supposed to be an american accent in Sin City I'd be worried

[Superman79]

I dont think I've seen Clive in enough movies to know if he could pull off Dent.
All of the ones I can think of he just plays the same character.
Pheonix is alright but Gyllenhaal is still my choice and Bana is second.

I could live with Bana...but Gyllenhaal...while good in JArhead, just doesn't seem right to me. He's too young for a DA, and he just looks wrong IMHO.

That and (not that I am saying this but oyu KNOW the media and their issues) freakin "Brokeback" jokes and references on news and talk shows would get as annoying as the whole 'TomKat' thing did with BB. :(

[Ronny Shade]

Yeah Jake is too young.

The brokeback thing wouldnt bother me, but I can just see all the newspaper reviewers, etc making jokes and I would get REALLY pissed.

My choices go like this:
1)Pheonix
2)Schreiber

[Superman79]

Yeah Jake is too young.

The brokeback thing wouldnt bother me, but I can just see all the newspaper reviewers, etc making jokes and I would get REALLY pissed.


That is exactly what I'm talking about...it would just become one of those obnoxiously annoyiing non-story "stories" that take away from the enjoyment of the movie/hype for the fans :down

[gvcool2]

If that was supposed to be an american accent in Sin City I'd be worried

it was purposefully over the top to suit the film noir tone, he put on a very thick and unrealistic new york style accent. Agreed though it was laughable especially 'A Hard Top With A Decent Engine...& Make Sure It's Got A BIG Trunk'

[Ronny Shade]

I seriously though he was supposed to be english in Sin City :confused:

[gvcool2]

I seriously though he was supposed to be english in Sin City :confused:

I wish I had that accent

[7Hells]

I saw closer. :)

I dont mind having a younger Dent because thats how I interpreted his personality in the comics compared to Wayne. Not to mention Gyllenhaal has that added instant compassion I think we need to see in Dent. Which is also why I like Bana :)

Besides a 6 year difference can easily be achieved with make-up or camera angles.

[JokerNick]

did you see him in that Spike Lee movie, I forgot the name.... the one with Denzel.... he's such a good bad guy

[Flexo]

did you see him in that Spike Lee movie, I forgot the name.... the one with Denzel.... he's such a good bad guy

Inside Man.

[JokerNick]

Inside Man.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3314/cliveowen02ej9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

yep, tottal bad ass

[7Hells]

ya, he is good at playing himself. :D

[JokerNick]

^you know his harvey dent would be awesome

[gvcool2]

ya, he is good at playing himself. :D

are you saying clive owen's a bank robber, an adultrist dermatologist, low rent thug and a medieval king? he sounds like quite a talented man, he clearly deserves the role of dent

[Ronny Shade]

I never doubted that Clive has the acting chops, I'm just worried about the accent

[7Hells]

He looks the part.
I just dont think he is a good enough actor.

[gvcool2]

He looks the part.
I just dont think he is a good enough actor.

his oscar nomination says otherwise :O

[gvcool2]

I never doubted that Clive has the acting chops, I'm just worried about the accent

the batman cast clearly has a good voice coach as the majority of the cast are british so i'm sure clive owen will be fine

[7Hells]

are you saying clive owen's a bank robber, an adultrist dermatologist, low rent thug and a medieval king? he sounds like quite a talented man, he clearly deserves the role of dent
lol
gv, Im just going to stop responding to your posts.
No offense hun but I just cant do it anymore.

[gvcool2]

lol
gv, Im just going to stop responding to your posts.
No offense hun but I just cant do it anymore.

I understand

[Ronny Shade]

the batman cast clearly has a good voice coach as the majority of the cast are british so i'm sure clive owen will be fine
Bale has played americans before. he's very good with accents. I read somewhere he uses a different accent for every role.
Caine's voice didn't change at all
Murphy's also played americans.

It's not like this was revolutionary for any of them.

[JokerNick]

out of all the actors talked about on here, Owen is the guy I could see being in this film, I can tottaly see him talking to Gordon and Batman....

[7Hells]

I never doubted that Clive has the acting chops, I'm just worried about the accent
If an actor cant manage to speak in a different accent then they arent really an actor. An accent should be the least of an actors challenges.

I mean, can you see yourself saying the same thing about someone like Depp?
But I dont think Owen is that bad that he cant do another accent, because thats as bad as they get :p
But I havent watched Sin City in a long time so you would know better.

[Ronny Shade]

out of all the actors talked about on here, Owen is the guy I could see being in this film, I can tottaly see him talking to Gordon and Batman....
not even this guy??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/images/2803_buffalo_soldiers.jpg

[JokerNick]

what are you guys complaining about accents for

Liam has an accent
Bale has an accent
Caine has an accent
Murphy has an accent

I think if there was anything you should complain about was Hauer as Falcone, his accent was terrible....

[gvcool2]

Bale has played americans before. he's very good with accents. I read somewhere he uses a different accent for every role.
Caine's voice didn't change at all
Murphy's also played americans.

It's not like this was revolutionary for any of them.

they all used coaches i'm just saying with the right coach he's accent will be fine.

Plus i think this was Murphys first american movie

[JokerNick]

not even this guy??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/images/2803_buffalo_soldiers.jpg

I just see Clive fitting the role better then any other mentioned guy, yes, even Johnny Cash...

[Ronny Shade]

If an actor cant manage to speak in a different accent then they arent really an actor. An accent should be the least of an actors challenges.

I mean, can you see yourself saying the same thing about someone like Depp?
But I dont think Owen is that bad that he cant do another accent, because thats as bad as they get :p
But I havent watched Sin City in a long time so you would know better.
I'm not saying he CAN'T, I'm just not saying I've ever seen anything that makes me think he can.

And acting is WAY more than accents. You can be a fine actor and only ever use your own voice.

[gvcool2]

what are you guys complaining about accents for

Liam has an accent
Bale has an accent
Caine has an accent
Murphy has an accent

I think if there was anything you should complain about was Hauer as Falcone, his accent was terrible....

wilkinson was falcone and yes it was an awful accent, similar to owens in sin city

[7Hells]

While I dont agree with your guys' choice of Owen I would agree with Pheonix.
He just doesnt have that sympathetic look that I really want in Dent.
Thats the only reason I would choose Gyllenhaal and Bana over Pheonix.

[Ronny Shade]

what are you guys complaining about accents for

Liam has an accent
Bale has an accent
Caine has an accent
Murphy has an accent

I think if there was anything you should complain about was Hauer as Falcone, his accent was terrible....
Hauer didn't play falcone :confused:

[7Hells]

I'm not all that knowledgable with the deep new york accent so I couldnt tell.

I want the audience to immediately sympathize with Dent because that will make his turn as painful as I felt it was in the comic.

[JokerNick]

ooopp, yep Wilkinson...... my bad... where did I get Hauer from?

Probably History of Violence (please tell me he was in that)

[Ronny Shade]

While I dont agree with your guys' choice of Owen I would agree with Pheonix.
He just doesnt have that sympathetic look that I really want in Dent.
Thats the only reason I would choose Gyllenhaal and Bana over Pheonix.
Bana is also good with accents. real good.

what do you mean by "sympathetic look?"

[Ronny Shade]

ooopp, yep Wilkinson...... my bad... where did I get Hauer from?

Probably History of Violence (please tell me he was in that)
hauer played Mr. Earle

[JokerNick]

William Hurt should play a mob boss

[7Hells]

what do you mean by "sympathetic look?"
I mean when I look at Gyllenhaal and Bana I just instantly care about them. I want to tuck them into their bed, give them milk and cookies and tell them tomorrow will be better :p

They just both look like really nice guys.
Thats the very first impression I get when I see their face. Sure they can be vain and arrogant but at the end of the day they have to be completely loveable which will be hard to feel for any actor who plays Dent given his personality.

[Superman79]

Owen and Pheonix have the face that I could imagine as Harvey...just kind of a look about them that "fits" IMHO

[Ronny Shade]

It's all in the acting, 7. Believe me, it'll be just as easy to side with Pheonix as Dent as it would be with Bana or Jake. Watch Troy if you haven't. See if you want to "tuck in" Hector. I sure as hell wouldn't. I'd want to hire him to kick the **** out of all my enemies.

All three people we're talking about here are all gonna be able to pull sympathy if that's how the character is written.

[7Hells]

Thats the thing though, the characters dialogue wont be written to evoke sympathy because Dent is an arrogant justice diluted naive asshat :p
It has to go beyond his words and the delivery of lines and the director can only do so much.

And the cinema audience doesnt know Dent the way we do. They will need that extra nudge of compassion.
Its all about casting someone who looks right for the Harvey Dent character instead of casting someone that looks right for the Two-Face character.
When looking for the actor we shouldnt be able to see them as twoface we should only be able to see them as Dent.
Because Dent is the hard part, not Twoface.

[Superman79]

Thats the thing though, the characters dialogue wont be written to evoke sympathy because Dent is an arrogant justice diluted naive asshat :p
It has to go beyond his words and the delivery of lines and the director can only do so much.

And the cinema audience doesnt know Dent the way we do. They will need that extra nudge of compassion.
Its all about casting someone who looks right for the Harvey Dent character instead of casting someone that looks right for the Two-Face character.
When looking for the actor we shouldnt be able to see them as twoface we should only be able to see them as Dent.
Because Dent is the hard part, not Twoface.

if that is the case then I think Pheonix wins...cause frankly, and maybe this is just me, but something about the way Gyllanhaal looks, I just don't trust/like him (on looks alone that is).

[Ronny Shade]

Thats the thing though, the characters dialogue wont be written to evoke sympathy because Dent is an arrogant justice diluted naive asshat :p
It has to go beyond his words and the delivery of lines and the director can only do so much.

And the cinema audience doesnt know Dent the way we do. They will need that extra nudge of compassion.
Its all about casting someone who looks right for the Harvey Dent character instead of casting someone that looks right for the Two-Face character.
When looking for the actor we shouldnt be able to see them as twoface we should only be able to see them as Dent.
Because Dent is the hard part, not Twoface.
I get what you're saying, but
1) Dent won't necessarily be written that way. I get the feeling he will start off very driven, passionate and pure, which will make his fall to evil all the more tragic and
2) Even if he is, I can see your argument about Gyllenhaal having a sympathetic look....it's cause he looks like a kid and kids have problems that are more innocent than adult asshat problems. But I don't think we should have a DA being kid-like. and I don't really see the sympathy in Bana any more than I do in Pheonix

[StorminNorman]

See I think Dent should be written in such a way that he seems TOO Good to be in a city like Gotham. He should be the All-American Golden Boy, he spends his weakends taking care of sick grannies in the nursinghome, his weekdays laying down the cold iron fist of justice and his spare time saving puppies. He also loves Apple Pie and Kisses Little Babies.

He should be written so that the crowd instantly likes him, perhaps even more so than Batman actually - that makes the whole Acid to the Face deal that much more dramatic.

[Ronny Shade]

I vote he's written like that when he's in public, but in private you see the strain of a perfect puclic life on him and he's stressed

[Superman79]

See I think Dent should be written in such a way that he seems TOO Good to be in a city like Gotham. He should be the All-American Golden Boy, he spends his weakends taking care of sick grannies in the nursinghome, his weekdays laying down the cold iron fist of justice and his spare time saving puppies. He also loves Apple Pie and Kisses Little Babies.

He should be written so that the crowd instantly likes him, perhaps even more so than Batman actually - that makes the whole Acid to the Face deal that much more dramatic.

so Dent should be Superman?? :confused: ;)

[StorminNorman]

so Dent should be Superman?? :confused: ;)

Superman without being so naive and the tights. He also shouldn't be worried about being a badass if it gets the job done. I actually want him to be some what similar to Chris Meloni's character on Law and Order - SVU.

[StorminNorman]

I vote he's written like that when he's in public, but in private you see the strain of a perfect puclic life on him and he's stressed

I would like that, as long as they keep him from going completely psycho as Harvey - ala BTAS.

[Superman79]

Superman without being so naive and the tights. He also shouldn't be worried about being a badass if it gets the job done. I actually want him to be some what similar to Chris Meloni's character on Law and Order - SVU.

oh, I see...then I'm bumping to #1 Pheonix just above Owen on my "Dent" list

[Ronny Shade]

oh, I see...then I'm bumping to #1 Pheonix just above Owen on my "Dent" list
:up::up:

[StorminNorman]

oh, I see...then I'm bumping to #1 Pheonix just above Owen on my "Dent" list

:up: :up:

The only thing preventing me from wearing Pheonix underwear is the fact that I want Liev.

[Ronny Shade]

The way I see it, The Ultimate Harvey Dent has all these qualities:

Good looking
In shape
Friendly
Sympathetic
American
Badass/Hardcore
Driven/Passionate

Joaquin Pheonix can be all these things in spades

[StorminNorman]

Chris Meloni!

[Superman79]

Chris Meloni!

hmm...he's a bit out of shape isn't he??

[StorminNorman]

hmm...he's a bit out of shape isn't he??

http://www.darkhorizons.com/tv/oz.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/46/146337573_842641317e_o.jpg

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~ccb17960/images/Oz/meloni/lean_chris.jpg

[JokerNick]

ALL i KNOW IS THAT FREAKING HARVEY DENT BETTER OWN A FREAKING DONKEY, THAT HE RIDES TO WORK EVERY FREAKING DAY, YOUR FREAKING GOT THAT GUYS? DENT + DONKEY = GREAT MOVIE

[7Hells]

I want him to be that way too but he also has to be vain.
Because Dent is vain people! It was the one thing he was clinging on to in a tragic life that kept him feeling like he was on top of the game and could handle his job of being in the public eye.
Thats why he flips when he loses his looks.
And also why he flips back and forth.

His face being marred is the physical representation of his personality being caught between the two worlds. Thats why his physical self needs to be important to him because everytime he looks in the mirror he has to be reminded of what he used to be and what he used to have.

And the reason he cant move on when he gets reconstructive surgery and keeps tearing his face off is because it will never be as perfect as it was before. Thats his view on life manifesting itself through his vanity.
His view on the world before he saw the ugly side of life(himself).

[Superman79]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/tv/oz.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/46/146337573_842641317e_o.jpg

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~ccb17960/images/Oz/meloni/lean_chris.jpg

Whoops...I was thinking of Chris Noth...I was waaayy off...my bad :(

[StorminNorman]

Whoops...I was thinking of Chris Noth...I was waaayy off...my bad :(

Chris Noth = Sal Maloni

[7Hells]

Normin who is that and what is he doing in my favorite villians thread?!?

He would be ok, but I think Dent needs to be the tall dark and handsome package.
Not the sexy man, the beautiful man. Theres a big difference. :D

[StorminNorman]

Normin who is that and what is he doing in my favorite villians thread?!?

He would be ok, but I think Dent needs to be the tall dark and handsome package.
Not the sexy man, the beautiful man. Theres a big difference. :D

He is very sexy in Law and Order Special Victims Unit:o

[newwaveboy87]

Chris Meloni isn't half bad looking

[Ronny Shade]

ALL i KNOW IS THAT FREAKING HARVEY DENT BETTER OWN A FREAKING DONKEY, THAT HE RIDES TO WORK EVERY FREAKING DAY, YOUR FREAKING GOT THAT GUYS? DENT + DONKEY = GREAT MOVIE
:confused:

[Ronny Shade]

Chris Meloni isn't half bad looking
right, He's all bad looking! yuk yuk yuk yuk :D

[newwaveboy87]

that was supposed to be funny....:confused:

[Ronny Shade]

not really :(

[The Riddler]

josh lucas wouldn't surprise me.

[Dark Knight]

I could live with Bana...but Gyllenhaal...while good in JArhead, just doesn't seem right to me. He's too young for a DA, and he just looks wrong IMHO.

That and (not that I am saying this but oyu KNOW the media and their issues) freakin "Brokeback" jokes and references on news and talk shows would get as annoying as the whole 'TomKat' thing did with BB. :(


I want a more mature mid 30's Dent....not a young 25 year old....which would be unrealistic to have that young of a D.A. in big major city.

I also agree with the Brokeback connection.....it would be to much of a distraction to cast Gyllenhaal. Then have Ledger as Joker as well.

I would go with Bana right now.....

[StorminNorman]

SAT Time:

Josh Lucas is to Harvey Dent what Robin Williams is to Joker.

[Batman2008]

http://www.michaelwincott.org/Wavs/Emoneysmile.jpg



Michael Wincott looks like a good Dent to me.

[Eddie Dean]

Wincott is fantastic, but no Dent.

[7Hells]

Not nearly good looking enough.
He would have made a good scarecrow too though.

[Batman2008]

He has the voice for it and a "man" presence. But he is probably too old.

[Katsuro]

SAT Time:

Josh Lucas is to Harvey Dent what Robin Williams is to Joker.

Too old and fat?

[StorminNorman]

Too old and fat?

Yes...but I was looking for a man that wants the role, is campaigning for the role, but will not get the role.:(

[Cinemaman]

SAT Time:

Josh Lucas is to Harvey Dent what Robin Williams is to Joker.

Agreed. I would hate Lucas as Dent.

[newwaveboy87]

Too old and fat?
plus, he's ugly

[Katsuro]

I really wouldn't mind Lucas that much, if it werent' for the fact that I want Schreiber so much more.

[IamtheBatman]

I think it goes between Patrick Dempsey or Liev Schreiber






http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/4755/PatrickDem_Devan_8665014_400.jpghttp://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0368008/MC-C1239-23_29COMP.jpg

["V"]

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5964/phoenixtwofacegk2.jpg

[Nightwing]

I think it goes between Patrick Dempsey or Liev Schreiber






http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/4755/PatrickDem_Devan_8665014_400.jpghttp://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0368008/MC-C1239-23_29COMP.jpg

Seems like you and June are going to get along fine. So you know, your pictures are red x's. Try hosting them here. (http://imageshack.us/)

["V"]

No. Where's his other eyeball?

Far better range than Liev Schreiber, and not a hammy B-Movie actor either.

I was influenced by the Sale Two Face - Where the eyeball is much more exposed and damaged.

It's the coloured dot in the middle of the white mass.

[Nightwing]

Far better range than Liev Schreiber, and not a hammy B-Movie actor either.

I was influenced by the Sale Two Face - Where the eyeball is much more exposed and damaged.

It's the coloured dot in the middle of the white mass.

But Sale's eyeball for Two-Face has never been that small...

["V"]

But Sale's eyeball for Two-Face has never been that small...

Note the key word influenced.

[Sharkboy]

I think it goes between Patrick Dempsey or Liev Schreiber






http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/4755/PatrickDem_Devan_8665014_400.jpghttp://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0368008/MC-C1239-23_29COMP.jpg

lemmie guess grey's anatomy fan? dempsey annoys the hell outta me on that show, i wouldnt want him anywhere near this franchise. Besides hes got kind eyes. not for dent!

[StorminNorman]

Far better range than Liev Schreiber, and not a hammy B-Movie actor either.

I was influenced by the Sale Two Face - Where the eyeball is much more exposed and damaged.

It's the coloured dot in the middle of the white mass.

Liev Schreiber is a very good actor, IMO. His character in say, Kate and Leopold was far different from Manchurian Candidate - so his range is not an issue. :confused:

[The Fallen]

VIVA LA LIEV! Join the revolution damnit! It's either him or Phoenix. If Josh Lucas gets the role, I'll... I'll write a angry, no wait, VERY angry letter to Waner Bros.

Lucas just annoys me. I lothe him. Despise him.

[StorminNorman]

Lucas does nothing for me...at all.

[newwaveboy87]

me three.
he's like a bad Matthew McConaughey.

which says a lot.

[newwaveboy87]

i think it is.
much like Rob Schneider being a poor man's Adam Sandler, Lucas is a poor man's McConaughey.

they do the same type of roles, have a similar public image, and look a little alike.

[R_Hythlodeus]

:O jerry o´conell

to suggest a new left-field name

[Superman79]

ok, here's one I can't believe I forgot...

how about Aaron Eckhart? He has the ability and the looks...as well as the age...

[fabman]

wtf... who the hell is aaron eckhart?

[Eddie Dean]

Aaron Eckhart (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001173/)

[fabman]

oh i see

...

...

crap!

[Two-Face]

Eckhart was up for role of Gordon I believe. I don't think he's suited for Dent role.

[Artos]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy.jpg

[fabman]

GREAT but no white hair...

[Superman79]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy.jpg

NICE!!!

[Milkman95]

Nice - Phoenix is definitely my pick for the role.

[batman7289]

im sure nolan will be a good job of casting dent

[batman7289]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy.jpg

thats the coolest manip ive seen. your f u c k i n g rock
thats how dent should look

[Artos]

thats the coolest manip ive seen. your f u c k i n g rock
thats how dent should look

Glad you like it. I think that approach gives the best "Nolan-ized" version of Two-Face, grounded in reality, but still true to the character.

[Superman79]

thats the coolest manip ive seen. your f u c k i n g rock
thats how dent should look

I might put a little more burn toward the lips personally, but otherwise yup, its DEAD ON :up:

[Artos]

I might put a little more burn toward the lips personally, but otherwise yup, its DEAD ON :up:
;)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy2.jpg

[Superman79]

Glad you like it. I think that approach gives the best "Nolan-ized" version of Two-Face, grounded in reality, but still true to the character.

You do realize that when Ronny sees this hes going to do two things...
1) Crap his pants in joy
2) Shower with brotherly affection (and maybe gifts) :p :D

[Artos]

You do realize that when Ronny sees this hes going to do two things...
1) Crap his pants in joy
2) Shower with brotherly affection (and maybe gifts) :p :D

Should I be afraid or grateful? ;)

[Superman79]

;)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy2.jpg

Perfect!!

You need to find Nolan's email address NOW!!! Then mail him this pic twice a day until he agrees to make you a production designer on BB2 ;) (and he casts Pheonix :up:)

[Superman79]

Should I be afraid or grateful? ;)

Well, Ronny will be greatful, and he's a good guy to be friends with on the boards...so it's a good thing :D

[gvcool2]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy.jpg

Looks like kano from mortal kombat. It's a great manip my only 2 problems is the burns need to be covering the whole of one side of the face so he really is 2 face not 1 and 3/4 face, and i like the hair thing but maybe that should also go across the whole of that side

[Artos]

Perfect!!

You need to find Nolan's email address NOW!!! Then mail him this pic twice a day until he agrees to make you a production designer on BB2 ;) (and he casts Pheonix :up:)

I'd love to be production designer, but people entirely hate my ideas for Joker;)

[Artos]

Well, Ronny will be greatful, and he's a good guy to be friends with on the boards...so it's a good thing :D

That's good. I could always use more allies.:)

[Superman79]

I'd love to be production designer, but people entirely hate my ideas for Joker;)

do you have a link to your joker design? I think I missed it.

[Artos]

do you have a link to your joker design? I think I missed it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/latest_jokecopy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/new_joke.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/heath_jokecopy.jpg

[Nightwing]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy.jpg

Nice. The only I would change would be the white hair. Unless they are going to have him resemble his B:TAS counterpart. Phoenix's name really should emerge on the "candidates mill" again.

You do realize that when Ronny sees this hes going to do two things...
1) Crap his pants in joy
2) Shower with brotherly affection (and maybe gifts) :p :D

Heh.

[Superman79]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/latest_jokecopy.jpg



I like this one (other than he needs a haircut) it shows Ledger really has the look...I don't see why people wouldn't like it...it's classic joker :up:

[Artos]

Nice. The only I would change would be the white hair.

I've had a couple of comments about the hair. I figure that if he got splashed in the face with acid, some might get into his hair and bleach it. Mostly I added it because it looked to plain to leave the hair alone.

[Artos]

I like this one (other than he needs a haircut) it shows Ledger really has the look...I don't see why people wouldn't like it...it's classic joker :up:

Thanks. I think the hair does need a trim. Though personally, I like longer hair, but this pic's hair is too long.

But I don't want to turn this into a Joker thread.

[Nightwing]

I've had a couple of comments about the hair. I figure that if he got splashed in the face with acid, some might get into his hair and bleach it. Mostly I added it because it looked to plain to leave the hair alone.

It's a superb effort. :up:

What you also could have done, was get rid of the side of hair that was hit with the acid. Like Sale's rendition of Harvey.

http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg

[Batty Belfry]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy.jpg

Excellent!

[Artos]

It's a superb effort. :up:

What you also could have done, was get rid of the side of hair that was hit with the acid. Like Sale's rendition of Harvey.

http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg

Good point. I'll try that next.

[gvcool2]

I say Gerard Butler for Dent based purely on his performance as The Phantom

[Eddie Dean]

I say Gerard Butler for Dent based purely on his performance as The Phantom
Butler would be great as Dent.

[Balthus Dire]

Schreiber = Dent.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Clive Owen maybe?

[gvcool2]

photographic proof that gerard butler could make an incredible Dent/two Face

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/people2/gerard3.jpg

[Flexo]

photographic proof that gerard butler could make an incredible Dent/two Face

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/people2/gerard3.jpg

Just because the man once wore a piece of make-up doesn't mean he's qualified. He doesn't look that much like Dent, he's not that great an actor, and nearly anyone can have prosthetics slapped on them.

[gvcool2]

Just because the man once wore a piece of make-up doesn't mean he's qualified. He doesn't look that much like Dent, he's not that great an actor, and nearly anyone can have prosthetics slapped on them.

your very much missing the point, I didn't post the picture to show what he can look like with half a face, I was simply showing a picture that showed he had the handsome yet tortued face that Dent possesses. I'm not sure who you believe should play the role but acting wise he is equal in abilities as Shrieber (who is ugly as **** and could never gain the 'apollo' name) who seems to be a fan faviroute and showed he was able to play a vein and tortued man in Phantom, and from your comments it was evident that you hadn't seen it and probably basing his acting skills off of tomb raider. Nevertheless each to their own and I was merely stating my choice in who I would like to see in the role

[Flexo]

your very much missing the point, I didn't post the picture to show what he can look like with half a face, I was simply showing a picture that showed he had the handsome yet tortued face that Dent possesses. I'm not sure who you believe should play the role but acting wise he is equal in abilities as Shrieber (who is ugly as **** and could never gain the 'apollo' name) who seems to be a fan faviroute and showed he was able to play a vein and tortued man in Phantom, and from your comments it was evident that you hadn't seen it and probably basing his acting skills off of tomb raider. Nevertheless each to their own and I was merely stating my choice in who I would like to see in the role

I find that most fan favorites are rubbish. Schrieber or Butler would really piss me off if one of them were chosen. Highly over-rated.

[Hack and Slash]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/two_face_phoenixcopy.jpg
AWESOME :up:

[RedIsNotBlue]

I find that most fan favorites are rubbish. Schrieber or Butler would really piss me off if one of them were chosen. Highly over-rated.

Kind of how I feel about Ledger right now. :( But hopefully my fears will disappear when more stuff comes out.

[gvcool2]

I find that most fan favorites are rubbish. Schrieber or Butler would really piss me off if one of them were chosen. Highly over-rated.

hold up...who rates Butler enough to consider him over rated, apart from me I don't even think he's been mentioned as a possibility for the role.