View Full Version : Why Do We Need A Sequel?!!!
TankerX
07-22-2006, 11:31 AM
Its already a sequel to the first films (well superman 1 and 2) and i thought the ending was so superb that they could end it here and now.
storyteller
07-22-2006, 02:04 PM
In the words of President Ford. GET OFF MY BOARD!
TankerX
07-22-2006, 02:24 PM
In the words of President Ford. GET OFF MY BOARD!
No.
Everyone has their own opinion
i'm making mine
:supes:
matthooper
07-22-2006, 03:14 PM
Its already a sequel to the first films (well superman 1 and 2) and i thought the ending was so superb that they could end it here and now.
I feel the exact opposite. I was so dissapointed in the film, but I saw aspects of greatness. I'd love to see a sequel that has some action, and a good story.
Singer re-introduced the character, now let's see some amazing stuff in the sequel.
The Kid
07-23-2006, 02:33 AM
the way x1 ended you could see it was setting itself up for a sequel. That's not what we see here in returns.
So it could end here if he wanted it to. I wouldn't mind a totally re-vamp for the next one.
thorstone
07-23-2006, 03:42 AM
I'm sure right now a few people in power at WB feel like they wasted $200 million dollars.
XCharlieX
07-23-2006, 06:17 AM
Technically they havent even scratched the surface with any superman films yet. Theyve been holding back some great villains and ideas. If they arent planning on expanding their horizons i agree they shouldnt make any more.
Backdrifter
07-23-2006, 07:50 PM
The kid ruined any chance of a quality superman sequel... gone, poof, kersplat. Singer thought the idea was so damn clever...
casketmouth
07-24-2006, 12:30 AM
Its already a sequel to the first films (well superman 1 and 2) and i thought the ending was so superb that they could end it here and now.
superb ending??? I still haven't got a sequal to the first 2 yet, so no we don't need a sequal we needed a reboot and that's what it is.
casketmouth
07-24-2006, 12:31 AM
The kid ruined any chance of a quality superman sequel... gone, poof, kersplat. Singer thought the idea was so damn clever...
what an idiot huh?!
kal-el1990
07-24-2006, 03:54 AM
there must be a sequel if not then a reeboot but with the same cast cuz they all rocked
XCharlieX
07-24-2006, 06:21 AM
The kid ruined any chance of a quality superman sequel... gone, poof, kersplat. Singer thought the idea was so damn clever...
I dont think so. If nobody wants a story revolving around the kid then they shouldnt write one. Easy. I didnt see super kid as a sidekick after SR because i know they can just bury that plotline indefinitely for other stuff.
Venom71
07-24-2006, 09:08 AM
To see what happens next :p ;)
Backdrifter
07-24-2006, 11:15 AM
I dont think so. If nobody wants a story revolving around the kid then they shouldnt write one. Easy. I didnt see super kid as a sidekick after SR because i know they can just bury that plotline indefinitely for other stuff.
Then why was the kid necessary in the first place? As I see it, the plot of the film did not require his existence whatsoever. Lois' "moving on" could have been just as effective with her being in a relationship with White. The kid was overkill and, IMO, not needed. You can't just gloss over the fact that the kid is Superman's in the sequel... I just can't believe Singer chose this route when the world of Superman has barely been explored, we've barely even scratched the surface. There are so many villians and stories to be told that we have never even seen in a Superman film...yet Singer, for some untold reason, decided it was time to give Superman a kid. That was a poor choice. Very poor indeed.
Whirlysplat
07-24-2006, 12:13 PM
Then why was the kid necessary in the first place? As I see it, the plot of the film did not require his existence whatsoever. Lois' "moving on" could have been just as effective with her being in a relationship with White. The kid was overkill and, IMO, not needed. You can't just gloss over the fact that the kid is Superman's in the sequel... I just can't believe Singer chose this route when the world of Superman has barely been explored, we've barely even scratched the surface. There are so many villians and stories to be told that we have never even seen in a Superman film...yet Singer, for some untold reason, decided it was time to give Superman a kid. That was a poor choice. Very poor indeed.
Apart from the Usual Suspects nothing Singer has done has impressed me, I still fancied his sister 25 years ago though.
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- Whirly
XCharlieX
07-24-2006, 12:33 PM
Then why was the kid necessary in the first place? As I see it, the plot of the film did not require his existence whatsoever. Lois' "moving on" could have been just as effective with her being in a relationship with White. The kid was overkill and, IMO, not needed. You can't just gloss over the fact that the kid is Superman's in the sequel... I just can't believe Singer chose this route when the world of Superman has barely been explored, we've barely even scratched the surface. There are so many villians and stories to be told that we have never even seen in a Superman film...yet Singer, for some untold reason, decided it was time to give Superman a kid. That was a poor choice. Very poor indeed.
Not really... theyve made what 5 films now? Thats the table they used and they figured it was time to add a new personal dimension which i found quite brilliant.
Now imo its time to add a new scope for superman... Luthor needs to go imo. Bring on the all powerful heavyweights.
And as for "glossing over", itll be many years lapse before that storyline would need to be explored. And the last franchise was over the span of shorter than that i think... you can do the entire franchise and never get to that point where an entire film is needed for it. I kid u not ;)
Now 20 yrs from now perhaps the wave of superman films made then will feature a new superman, son of Kal El. I think this franchise really doesnt need to spend much time setting that up now. Sure comic fans will be annoyed at liberties, but what are you gonna do? :D Movie making goes on.
We don't "need" ANY movies. We will all survive if no movies ever get made ever again.
Now, why do we WANT a sequel? To see what happens to Superman next, of course... who is he going to fight, now that he's going to fight someone... what's Kevin Spacey's business plan? What about the crystals on NK? What do they become?
The effects team was brilliant on SR, and I'd like very much to see what they do with a Superhuman battle... which is what Singer speaks of when he talks about SR2...
BULLITT
07-24-2006, 03:43 PM
Its already a sequel to the first films (well superman 1 and 2) and i thought the ending was so superb that they could end it here and now.
Because fans of the character would like to see more.
DrMylesOBoogie
07-24-2006, 05:10 PM
We need a sequel because we've yet to see a great modern day Superman film.
Super Kal
07-24-2006, 05:23 PM
Its already a sequel to the first films (well superman 1 and 2) and i thought the ending was so superb that they could end it here and now.
because you can make better stories with the technology today...
you can ask the same thing about every other superhero story/film out there, and I'll tell you why...
because it sells, that's why.
Mr. Walters
07-26-2006, 02:57 AM
There doesn't need to be a sequel to Superman Returns. The direction they have taken the story in is terrible. I don't want to see anymore.
CConn
07-26-2006, 04:31 AM
Its already a sequel to the first films (well superman 1 and 2) and i thought the ending was so superb that they could end it here and now.The quickest answer is simply that there were subplots in SR that were left unresolved. For multiple parts of the movie, the ending wasn't an ending at all.
Kal Ell
07-26-2006, 05:29 AM
Its already a sequel to the first films (well superman 1 and 2) and i thought the ending was so superb that they could end it here and now.
Why should they, when it can only get better! - We NEED more sequels. Introduce a supervillain and it'll knock all other heroes out of the sky (land) :supes:
Joe Kerr
07-26-2006, 05:34 AM
You are either very stupid or have no imagination.
The kid plot has many possible stories to tell.
but sadly not... Superman... Stories.
Backdrifter
07-26-2006, 01:22 PM
You are either very stupid or have no imagination.
The kid plot has many possible stories to tell.
Aww did I hurt your feelings? Do you insult anyone who doesn't like the movie? Or just the ones who point out the real flaws and it drives you to post out of spite?
batlovescatDC
07-27-2006, 11:58 PM
Superman Returns was obviously met with mixed feelings and reviews. But that's what director like Bryan Singer are good at. They look at what went right and keep it and then they look at what went wrong and fix it. I am personally looking forward to the sequel and seeing an alien villian in it. I think that Bryan Singer will take the fighting and alien effects to a whole new level. You gotta have some faith. After The Usual Suspects, the first two X-Men films, and (IMO) Superman Returns... you can't help but have some.
Backdrifter
07-28-2006, 12:10 AM
Superman Returns was obviously met with mixed feelings and reviews. But that's what director like Bryan Singer are good at. They look at what went right and keep it and then they look at what went wrong and fix it. I am personally looking forward to the sequel and seeing an alien villian in it. I think that Bryan Singer will take the fighting and alien effects to a whole new level. You gotta have some faith. After The Usual Suspects, the first two X-Men films, and (IMO) Superman Returns... you can't help but have some.
Thats not a sign of a good director. That is a sign of someone who doesn't understand his medium enough to do it right the first time. Any moderatley intelligent person can learn from their mistakes and do better with a second try. Its the ones who do it right the first time who deserve our admiration for their real brilliance.
batlovescatDC
07-28-2006, 12:25 AM
Well, he did it the first time... IMO.
batlovescatDC
07-28-2006, 12:31 AM
It might not have been perfect... but there a lot of director's that would've done much, much worse. Could you imagine if we would've gotten a *****ing Tim Burton directed film written by Wesley Strick starring Nicholas Cage as Superman, Sandra Bullock as Lois Lane, and CHRIS ROCK AS JIMMY OLSEN?! Compared to ANY of the recent attempts, this SUPERMAN definitely soars, with no question. I think we need to be grateful we got a true adapation instead of those ***** films.
GoldGoblin
07-28-2006, 01:01 AM
Bryan Singer should make a sequel and a prequel back to back,that way he could release the prequel six months after his sequel comes out.The prequel could be cool,Singer could show the origins,and give us a better Zod vs Superman fight in that movie.
Cdawg751
07-28-2006, 04:46 AM
O God No. Bryan Needs to focus on the sequel so it doesnt suck as bad as Returns did. Hopefully 2nd times the charm
DogofKrypton
07-28-2006, 11:41 AM
Nice reply and very appropriate, don't you think?
You are a very, very unpleasant person on these boards. Just because YOU have an opinion, doesn't make it any better or "valid" than anyone else.
casketmouth
07-28-2006, 12:17 PM
O God No. Bryan Needs to focus on the sequel so it doesnt suck as bad as Returns did. Hopefully 2nd times the charm
Bryan needs to quit trying and let spielberg do what he does.
casketmouth
07-28-2006, 12:18 PM
but sadly not... Superman... Stories.
lol
captain_jimbo
07-28-2006, 03:59 PM
Oh I definitely think there should be a sequel, what would be the point of bringing Superman back to the big screen, doing one film, and then dropping it again.
Whirlysplat
07-28-2006, 07:22 PM
It might not have been perfect... but there a lot of director's that would've done much, much worse. Could you imagine if we would've gotten a *****ing Tim Burton directed film written by Wesley Strick starring Nicholas Cage as Superman, Sandra Bullock as Lois Lane, and CHRIS ROCK AS JIMMY OLSEN?! Compared to ANY of the recent attempts, this SUPERMAN definitely soars, with no question. I think we need to be grateful we got a true adapation instead of those ***** films.
Oh God! don't mention Burton, I just start to shiver at the thought of him trying to do Superheroes again.
- Whirly
GoldGoblin
07-31-2006, 07:21 PM
What are the top five reasons why you guys hated SR?
dpm07
07-31-2006, 07:46 PM
What are the top five reasons why you guys hated SR?
1. The Kid - Jason was an unnecessary plot device
2. The lack of a really great climax ala a superbattle
3. The continuation of the Donner franchise
4. The lack of a segue into a sequel ala Batman Begins
5. Having unnecessary characters and/or wasting talent in the film ala Parker Posey, Peta Wilson, Kumar
6. The Lex Luthor being too aligned with the original franchise. I would have preferred the corporate Lex from the DCAU.
7. The whack pack writing team of Harris/Daugherty. We waited this many years to see Lex pursue another land scheme
8. The directing approach and ego of Bryan Singer
Donnie Darko
07-31-2006, 08:19 PM
We need a sequel because we've yet to see a great modern day Superman film.
it's kinda funny you say that because I feel like we need a sequel to this film because we finally got a GOOD Superman film. I know my dislike for Superman 1 & 2 puts me at odds with many people on these boards, but it takes different strokes to move the world, I guess.
batman7289
07-31-2006, 09:33 PM
yes sequels
TankerX
08-04-2006, 03:14 AM
You guys have changed my mind now.
I want a sequel
Uncanny
08-04-2006, 08:14 AM
The kid ruined any chance of a quality superman sequel...
Why make up a kid? Supergirl could have just came in a much later movie and would have been a better ideal. This made up kid hurt the new superman movies for me.
To me the kid is up there with Nuclear Man!
I do not want to see superman and his son tag teaming a bad guy in a movie. A supergirl later on would have open up the doors for better things.
Superman-Prime
08-04-2006, 11:44 AM
Its already a sequel to the first films (well superman 1 and 2) and i thought the ending was so superb that they could end it here and now.
You don't want a sequel? Don't bother to watch it.
Superman Returns is one of the best film ever since Superman The Movie and II.
Langoth
08-04-2006, 12:07 PM
I want a sequel, not done by Brian Singer.
TankerX
08-09-2006, 02:54 PM
You don't want a sequel? Don't bother to watch it.
Superman Returns is one of the best film ever since Superman The Movie and II.
i did change my mind you know...
You guys have changed my mind now.
I want a sequel
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