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godovfury
07-22-2006, 02:15 PM
July 22, 2006

Spiderman 4 Confirmed


http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/SpiderMan2_2face.jpgThere's some eagle eyed people out there, and the sharp folks at Cinematical (http://cinematical.com/2006/01/12/spider-man-4-rumors-from-hasbro/) have found out the news that there is going to be a Spiderman 4 for definite.
From company information for Hasbro from New Ratings (http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1176646.html) comes this little gem:
In a research note published yesterday, the analysts mention that the company has signed a five-year license agreement with Marvel for $205 million, $100 of which would be paid upon the closure of the deal and the rest when the two Spiderman movies are released. The agreement will commence in late-2006...Sharp eyes indeed, did you catch that? "when the two Spiderman movies are released" and that commences late this year. That suggest two more movies from where we are now, 3 and 4.

By the way guys check this out its really cool: :spidey:
http://world2.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=31055433

fobulous
07-22-2006, 02:17 PM
okay first of all
if you read USA TODAY's article yeterday
they reported something completely different
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2006-07-20-spiderman_x.htm

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:21 PM
:rolleyes: you see what happens when people under 100 posts make threads...?

Secret_Riddle
07-22-2006, 02:22 PM
hey there could be something behind this who knows. ive seen some noobs on this bored who have really come up with good stuff.

webhead731
07-22-2006, 02:22 PM
So is it confirmed or not?

bstringer
07-22-2006, 02:22 PM
i got all excited over nothin...*Sigh*

fobulous
07-22-2006, 02:23 PM
We don't have a book we're adapting, like a Lord of the Rings," says Spider-Man producer Laura Ziskin. "It's open-ended. But this could be the last. We've never started on the next movie while we were working on the current one."

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:27 PM
Raimi said that if he could get Tobey and Kirsten back, and they still had chemistry he'd do it. Remember? I don't remember when he said it, but it was all over SHH.

webhead731
07-22-2006, 02:29 PM
Lizard is the next best villain they could use. Tobey and Kirsten need to come back. No new actors. That usually looks dumb.

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:29 PM
hey there could be something behind this who knows. ive seen some noobs on this bored who have really come up with good stuff.
I'm just teasing.;)

BTW it's not: what happend to you?
It's: What's happening to you?

Just a heads up.

godovfury
07-22-2006, 02:29 PM
okay first of all
if you read USA TODAY's article yeterday
they reported something completely different
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2006-07-20-spiderman_x.htm

"We don't have a book we're adapting, like a Lord of the Rings," says Spider-Man producer Laura Ziskin. "It's open-ended.

They didnt say this would be the last movie. We're talking about a 5 year contact that starts late this year. They are making 2 more movies after 1 and 2.

bstringer
07-22-2006, 02:31 PM
i really REALLY hope you're right... but somehow i doubt it

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:31 PM
Lizard is the next best villain they could use. Tobey and Kirsten need to come back. No new actors. That usually looks dumb.
Lizard is really cool. They would have to build up a friendship between Conners and Peter in this movie though, and they have a lot going on already...

fobulous
07-22-2006, 02:31 PM
dude i rather hear it come from the horse's mouth
whether that mouth is Rami's, Sony's, Tobey's, whomever is up there in the ranks.

xwolverine2
07-22-2006, 02:32 PM
meh!!!

webhead731
07-22-2006, 02:33 PM
Lizard is really cool. They would have to build up a friendship between Conners and Peter in this movie though, and they have a lot going on already...

All those spoiler things we get say in the Dr. Conners scenes there is Lizard stuff in the backround like he's working on re-growing his arm. It's dumb to show that and not have him be the villain in another movie.

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:36 PM
All those spoiler things we get say in the Dr. Conners scenes there is Lizard stuff in the backround like he's working on re-growing his arm. It's dumb to show that and not have him be the villain in another movie.
I haven't heard that....I hope you're right though because I LOVE Lizard. I don't really like the guy playing him but still...

bstringer
07-22-2006, 02:36 PM
their teasing us

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:38 PM
their teasing us
:confused:
Care to elaborate...?

chaseter
07-22-2006, 02:40 PM
This just in...the Sinister 60 will be in SM3...that is right...all the classic and new Spider-Man villians will be in SM3.

bstringer
07-22-2006, 02:41 PM
:confused:
Care to elaborate...?

sure.

in the past spider man movies , we've been seeing more and more of Dr. Curt Conners, who everyone knows turns into the lizard. apparently, in SM3, we see quite a few scenes of Conners in his lab, with things going on in the background that have to do with the lizard formula. They are hyping us up about lizard just in case they do decide to do spider man 4...

just my thoughts

webhead731
07-22-2006, 02:42 PM
Four Spider-Man movies even it out. I think it's best to have four if they keep good stories and the same actors.

chaseter
07-22-2006, 02:45 PM
Yea we need the liz. SM4 should be Lizard, Venom, Electro, and maybe Scorpion.

bstringer
07-22-2006, 02:47 PM
spider man 4 should only be the lizard and a cameo from Bruce campell as Mysterio... :D

chaseter
07-22-2006, 02:48 PM
The Lizard cannot hold a movie on his own...there is only a limited amount of stuff you can do with him. He is not a super-villian. If the Lizard appears, he should be a side villian...along the lines of GG2.

webhead731
07-22-2006, 02:48 PM
I have no idea how those villains could all work out lol.^

They shouldn't team up.

I think Lizard and Kraven would be good. Kraven is going after Lizard to kill him but Spider-Man is trying to stop him because he doesn't want Conners dead. So Kraven gets mad and also wants Spider-Man dead.

Something like that.

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:49 PM
Yea we need the liz. SM4 should be Lizard, Venom, Electro, and maybe Scorpion.
I think that's over kill. Lizard and Black Cat. Replace the guy playing Conners now though.
Here's your Black Cat:

http://www.e-dushku.com/gallery/albums/albums/tv/buffy/buffy3/faith-buffy3-022.jpg

She almost got the role for MJ.

xwolverine2
07-22-2006, 02:49 PM
shouldnt this thread be in the sequels forum?

superduperhero
07-22-2006, 02:49 PM
Spider-Man 4 huh............ Wasn't that confirmation for THIS movie.... (when they were doing 2) ???? We'll see....

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:49 PM
I have no idea how those villains could all work out lol.^

They shouldn't team up.

I think Lizard and Kraven would be good. Kraven is going after Lizard to kill him but Spider-Man is trying to stop him because he doesn't want Conners dead. So Kraven gets mad and also wants Spider-Man dead.

Something like that.
That could work.

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:50 PM
shouldnt this thread be in the sequels forum?
:up:

chaseter
07-22-2006, 02:51 PM
I think it should be the symbiote reaches Brock in jail and escapes. Meanwhile Dr. Connors begins his transformation into the Lizard in the middle of the film. Max Dillon has an accident and becomes Electro or Mysterio plagues the city...either/or.

SM4 should have:
Venom
Lizard
Electro/Mysterio/Shocker (one of the 3)

theShape
07-22-2006, 02:52 PM
This means nothing concerning the future of SM4. We have no idea what that deal could be all about. All that article has is a small excerpt, which is very vague.

chaseter
07-22-2006, 02:52 PM
I think that's over kill. Lizard and Black Cat. Replace the guy playing Conners now though.
Here's your Black Cat:

http://www.e-dushku.com/gallery/albums/albums/tv/buffy/buffy3/faith-buffy3-022.jpg

She almost got the role for MJ.
I really don't want to see Black Cat...and no Dushku please.

Secret_Riddle
07-22-2006, 02:53 PM
I'm just teasing.;)

BTW it's not: what happend to you?
It's: What's happening to you?

Just a heads up.

:( k ill change it. i thot it was so clever too. thx u

Gonking
07-22-2006, 02:53 PM
July 22, 2006

Spiderman 4 Confirmed


http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/SpiderMan2_2face.jpgThere's some eagle eyed people out there, and the sharp folks at Cinematical (http://cinematical.com/2006/01/12/spider-man-4-rumors-from-hasbro/) have found out the news that there is going to be a Spiderman 4 for definite.

From company information for Hasbro from New Ratings (http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1176646.html) comes this little gem:In a research note published yesterday, the analysts mention that the company has signed a five-year license agreement with Marvel for $205 million, $100 of which would be paid upon the closure of the deal and the rest when the two Spiderman movies are released. The agreement will commence in late-2006...Sharp eyes indeed, did you catch that? "when the two Spiderman movies are released" and that commences late this year. That suggest two more movies from where we are now, 3 and 4.

By the way guys check this out its really cool: :spidey:
http://world2.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=31055433

One word: CRAP!

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:54 PM
I think it should be the symbiote reaches Brock in jail and escapes. Meanwhile Dr. Connors begins his transformation into the Lizard in the middle of the film. Max Dillon has an accident and becomes Electro or Mysterio plagues the city...either/or.

SM4 should have:
Venom
Lizard
Electro/Mysterio/Shocker (one of the 3)
Mysterio might be cool if we lose the costume. It could be like the comics...he makes Peter think he is going crazy. I really do want Lizard and Black Cat though.

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 02:56 PM
:( k ill change it. i thot it was so clever too. thx u
Don't worry, one time I miss spelled something in my sig, and kept it on for a while. I hope I didn't embarrass you.:O

xwolverine2
07-22-2006, 02:58 PM
how is mysterio better than goblin,goblin2,venom,doc ock,sandman?

webhead731
07-22-2006, 02:59 PM
Because he has a fishbowl and they don't.

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 03:01 PM
how is mysterio better than goblin,goblin2,venom,doc ock,sandman?
No one said that. And they were already in the movies. We're talking about SM4. Plus he did make SM think he was going crazy....

xwolverine2
07-22-2006, 03:02 PM
No one said that. And they were already in the movies. We're talking about SM4. Plus he did make SM think he was going crazy....
nobody has to say that.....

sm4 HAS to be better in terms of villains or else its a downgrade:down

superduperhero
07-22-2006, 03:04 PM
Electro could work well.... Especially in the hands of Raimi...And Mysterio's fishbowl is awesome.... hahahah

fangrl06
07-22-2006, 03:04 PM
nobody has to say that.....

sm4 HAS to be better in terms of villains or else its a downgrade:down
Alright....who would be better? Someone who could really mess with Peter's mind.

godovfury
07-22-2006, 03:05 PM
One word: CRAP!

"Jonah is that you?" /lol :gg:

"That seems a little low!" - Peter Parker, SM1

DACrowe
07-22-2006, 04:21 PM
I'd say Lizard is a bigger and more interesting villain than Sandman. A thug who turns into sand.

But I have my doubts there'll be a fourth. It could be an open option but if the studio feels it is too costly with balooning budgets and decreased sells and Maguire/Dunst are gone....well I think SM3 is being made as a conclusion that will leave the door cracked for a fourth if wanted....but no cliffhanger this time though.

godovfury
07-22-2006, 04:21 PM
:rolleyes: you see what happens when people under 100 posts make threads...?

i dont need a hundred posts.
i have common sense.

FaT_tONle
07-22-2006, 08:23 PM
I don't buy it... Lizard an A villain??? Maybe... but a finale villain? Hell no... besides this report is very vague and inconclusive... maybe down the road... not within the next three years though

nolan's roll'n
07-22-2006, 08:53 PM
:rolleyes: you see what happens when people under 100 posts make threads...?

:up:

The Villain
07-23-2006, 11:23 AM
For SM4 I could see Venom return for say first 10 mins of film and be defeated so that new baddies can be developed.

The Lizard would be fine and yeah Doc Conners needs a couple of scenes like Doc Ock before he transforms and begins his rampage on NYC.

In between Lizard and main story plot we could have a few scenes involving a strange character dressed up like Spidey commiting crimes and causing havok allowing the public and Jameson to suggest and target Spidey as a rogue and therefore gang together and take him down.

Meanwhile the real Spiderman while trying to come to terms with whats happening around him not only battles with bad dreams caused with last battle with Sandman and Venom has to go up against Lizard and find out and prove that he is not the Spidey gone bad.

The imposter is none other than Quentin Beck Mysterio who is exposed as the second villain who has a few gimmicks up his sleeve to make the public go crazy and at the same time frame Spiderman for good.

One scene I would love or see created is Mysterio wants to get Spidey on his own so he invents a fantastic illusion that causes the public to clear the city (maybe a tidal wave illusion or a swarm of deadly bees approaching NYC would be cool) he succeeds and doing this Spidey would face Mysterio but also Lizard crashes the party giving Spidey another great battle.

Somewhere in around the battle Jameson and Robbie would be hiding and getting full coverage of Lizard and also at the same time eventually be proven wrong that Mysterio is the enemy and not Spidey.

Its a mess I know but I hope some of you understand and know that ASM 13 was Mysterio's first appearance where he tried to frame Spidey. It was and still is a classic. If and when they do use him I hope this comic will be used as a subplot for SM4

:marv: :eek:

FaT_tONle
07-23-2006, 01:06 PM
Lizard/Mysterio??? Ew..... ^^^

ISHMAEL
07-23-2006, 01:39 PM
For SM4 I could see Venom return for say first 10 mins of film and be defeated so that new baddies can be developed.

The Lizard would be fine and yeah Doc Conners needs a couple of scenes like Doc Ock before he transforms and begins his rampage on NYC.

In between Lizard and main story plot we could have a few scenes involving a strange character dressed up like Spidey commiting crimes and causing havok allowing the public and Jameson to suggest and target Spidey as a rogue and therefore gang together and take him down.

Meanwhile the real Spiderman while trying to come to terms with whats happening around him not only battles with bad dreams caused with last battle with Sandman and Venom has to go up against Lizard and find out and prove that he is not the Spidey gone bad.

The imposter is none other than Quentin Beck Mysterio who is exposed as the second villain who has a few gimmicks up his sleeve to make the public go crazy and at the same time frame Spiderman for good.

One scene I would love or see created is Mysterio wants to get Spidey on his own so he invents a fantastic illusion that causes the public to clear the city (maybe a tidal wave illusion or a swarm of deadly bees approaching NYC would be cool) he succeeds and doing this Spidey would face Mysterio but also Lizard crashes the party giving Spidey another great battle.

Somewhere in around the battle Jameson and Robbie would be hiding and getting full coverage of Lizard and also at the same time eventually be proven wrong that Mysterio is the enemy and not Spidey.

Its a mess I know but I hope some of you understand and know that ASM 13 was Mysterio's first appearance where he tried to frame Spidey. It was and still is a classic. If and when they do use him I hope this comic will be used as a subplot for SM4

:marv: :eek:

how about venom be the main villian and lizard's story as a subplot:)

Dr Vigon Chaos
07-23-2006, 03:24 PM
For SM4 I could see Venom return for say first 10 mins of film and be defeated so that new baddies can be developed.

The Lizard would be fine and yeah Doc Conners needs a couple of scenes like Doc Ock before he transforms and begins his rampage on NYC.

In between Lizard and main story plot we could have a few scenes involving a strange character dressed up like Spidey commiting crimes and causing havok allowing the public and Jameson to suggest and target Spidey as a rogue and therefore gang together and take him down.

Meanwhile the real Spiderman while trying to come to terms with whats happening around him not only battles with bad dreams caused with last battle with Sandman and Venom has to go up against Lizard and find out and prove that he is not the Spidey gone bad.

The imposter is none other than Quentin Beck Mysterio who is exposed as the second villain who has a few gimmicks up his sleeve to make the public go crazy and at the same time frame Spiderman for good.

One scene I would love or see created is Mysterio wants to get Spidey on his own so he invents a fantastic illusion that causes the public to clear the city (maybe a tidal wave illusion or a swarm of deadly bees approaching NYC would be cool) he succeeds and doing this Spidey would face Mysterio but also Lizard crashes the party giving Spidey another great battle.

Somewhere in around the battle Jameson and Robbie would be hiding and getting full coverage of Lizard and also at the same time eventually be proven wrong that Mysterio is the enemy and not Spidey.

Its a mess I know but I hope some of you understand and know that ASM 13 was Mysterio's first appearance where he tried to frame Spidey. It was and still is a classic. If and when they do use him I hope this comic will be used as a subplot for SM4

:marv: :eek:

I like this idea and to use Mysterio based on his first appearance would be sensible aswell. Mysterio does not need a movie to himself but he should be included in the franchaise.

Venom and Lizard could easily share villain roles but maybe better to have Venom for first 30 mins then go onto Lizard and Mysterio for last half.

Given good and carefull thought from Director and writers SM4 could be another ACE film although still waiting to see SM3

Oh and Mysterio's outfit needs modernising any ideas?

Dr Vigon Chaos
07-23-2006, 03:34 PM
how about venom be the main villian and lizard's story as a subplot:)

Venom is a cool character and I can't wait to see how he looks in SM3 but I would have him as a main villain but used in the first 30 mins. Lizard is a classic 60's foe and we oldies need to see classics aswell not just Venom.

Mysterio although not as popular as Venom but nevertheless classic villain is not too OTT to bring onto the screen and deep down I sense Sam Raimi would love to add him in.

FaT_tONle
07-23-2006, 07:10 PM
I think Lizard/Kraven is the best plot with Lizard in it... not as a finale... but a movie to open up the next series of films....

The Villain
07-24-2006, 05:59 AM
Alot of interesting comments here keep them coming.

Lizard/Kraven would be good too and as for Venom I think two appearances would be enough in SM3 and perhaps SM4.

Don't think for one second that I'm against having him included my only wish is to see a few more classic comic stories brought to the big screen.

May it be Venom/Lizard/Mysterio or Venom/Lizard/Kraven whatever the director or writers come up with I'm sure fans won't be too upset I hope.

:spidey: vs :D :bomb:

XCharlieX
07-24-2006, 08:33 AM
We all know everyone will be wanting Carnage after spiderman 3. I predict a 3 way battle: Spidey vs Venom vs Carnage. And perhaps venom becomes spideys ally and theres your part 4 lol

Oh and with carnage they can get a muscular guy to make up for the complaints for Grace.

FaT_tONle
07-24-2006, 12:51 PM
I can't see Carnage... Venom returning is a long shot if you know the spoilers... but Carnage as a stand alone doesn't work... Lizard and Carnage is just two drastically different stories put into one that can't work as a finale either.... if the break it up into three sequel films... I'll stick with my plot

SM4: Lizard/Kraven/Cassidy symbiate cliffhanger
SM5: Carnage, Scorpion, King Pin, Dock Ock cliff hanger
SM6: Sinister Six

but that is just my vision.... if SM4 is to be that last one... I have no idea...

XCharlieX
07-24-2006, 01:23 PM
Theres a poll that says venom in the general forum lol

Sounds like people feel venom will get little screentime in 3.

miller man
07-31-2006, 12:14 PM
nobody has to say that.....

sm4 HAS to be better in terms of villains or else its a downgrade:down

xwolverine2 brings up an excellent point.
See, the problem is, NO villain, except for the minority fanbase of that villain, will create as much hype as is currently being created for Venom. This film is including very much of what we all have been waiting for: Harry's revenge, the symbiote, and Venom finally on screen. What can top that, story-wise or other?
Look at it this way: S-M1 created an infinite amount of hype because it was Spidey's big-screen debut, his origin, all of the anticipation and excitement of the novelty. S-M2 was hyped because this franchise was worthy of a sequel , and they were introducing the classic Doc Ock. S-M3 is hyped because it will be mind-blowing seeing as how we will see three villains, including Venom, Harry as GGwhatever, and an epic villain in Sandman. The buzz over Venom's appearance has created a huge stir, and will likely result in a big box office.
So, the question that xwolverine2 is bringing up is, what logically comes next after that? Mysterio with a fishbowl! Electro shooting....electricity! Not trying to be a smartass or offend fans of those characters, they could be great in a movie, but following Venom and the hype surrounding him makes no sense. His inclusion, for me, signals the end of the franchise, at least for now.
Having said that, I hope I am wrong on everything I just said.

rainshadow
08-06-2006, 10:49 AM
For the people who think Raimi is going to direct SM4... don't count on it.

He just bought the rights to Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series and is going to start working on Wizard's First Rule after he wraps up SM3. From what I understand he wants to do the whole series (11 books) and they will all be "groundbreaking" TV miniseries. Likely he would only direct the first few and then turn it over someone else and just produce it, but this really hurts his chances of doing anymore Spidey movies.