When does being cool become being a whore?

[Silverstein]

This movie "John Tucker must die" is about a guy who dates multiple girls at a time, but though they try to thwart him, he's so cool that he uses it as an advantage. It's a comedy and all light hearted or whatever...

But then you realize that the message is that "A guy can be with multiple girls, and be a huge jerk. But in the end, he's just a jerk." If this movie were called "Samantha Carrie must die", and was about a cheerleader who dates multiple guys, then she'd be considered a ****. No one would say "What a lovable ****/whore." The character would just be condemned.

So what makes the difference? The media makes fun of women who have dated different men. Paris Hilton constantly has sex jokes thrown at her, yet Ron Jeremy is celebrated.

So where's this double standard come from?

[Batty for Bats!]

Men are better standard.


edit:
not that I agree with it, but if the shoe fits..

[pyromaniac]

It's been around a long time, unfortunately, and I hear you.

'What Woman Want' sort of addresses that at the beginning.

It's inbred sociological and even biological makeup, and it seems people have a hard time altering that makeup.

[Tsunulia]

There is no difference. And I friking despise the commercials whenever they come on :mad:

[Batty for Bats!]

Well, it def looks like a piece of ****.

[The Spawn]

You spoiled the whole movie for me.

[Carter]

It's a man's nature to be as promiscuous as possible.
We hold women to a higher standard in that department.

[Colossal Spoons]

I blame the Mormons and their polygamy.

[Speedball]

I hope they actually Kill John Tucker in the film.
Because I hate Jesse Metcalfe(or however you spell his name)

[pinkfloydstarr]

umm.... 6 words, every sitcom ever in the eighties

[ShadowBoxing]

Think of it this way: Men rule the world therefore we define what the rules and standards are.

[pinkfloydstarr]

I blame the Mormons and their polygamy.
no you blame them for arkansas

[Carter]

Think of it this way: Men rule the world therefore we define what the rules and standards are.

I agree with this:up:

[Silverstein]

I think it's either funny either way or gross either way. A guy who just has sex all day long is just as disgusting as a girl doing the same thing. And if a girl is a pervert, it's just as funny or annoying as a guy being the same way.

[jaguarr]

It's a silly comedy film aimed at the teen market and their high percentage of disposable income. How much actual "comedy" is in the final product is debatable. Try not to read too much into it.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I hate the fact that a whole demographic has "disposable income" and I can barely put gas in my damn car. :mad:

[Kool-Aid]

I wanna see this moive.

[Silverstein]

I'm not simply talking about one movie, jag. I'm talking about the seemingly double standard that some people have.

[Kool-Aid]

Did someone call you a whore?

[Silverstein]

Yes, actually. So?

[Mr. Credible]

i'm not advocating the double standard or anything, but...

the general consensous is that when a man has sex, it is only for pleasure, and, when a woman does it, it is supposed to have some kind of emotional attachment, so, when women sleep around, it makes it somehow worse then when men do it.

i personally think this all bull-crap... and it's some kind of 'domination/alpha male' thing that men do...

don't get me wrong, i've slept with alot of women, actually, i've slept with every reasonable looking women who's willing to sleep with me, but, i'm not condoning it by any means...

[SLVRSR4]

I was asked this once and said your damned if you do your damned if you don't. I have no real way to answer anything:o :down

[Kent]

Ron Jeremy is celebrated? :confused:

[NDX]

Ron Jeremy is celebrated? :confused:

By short, fat hairy Jews everywhere.

[C.F. Kane]

It's cause pimpin' ain't easy. Whoring, on the other hand, is.

[moop501]

Hmmm.Think about a hotdog(PENIS) and a bread-bun(VAGINA) being rammed into eachother over and over again.After a while,the bread will break down into a big,soggy,crumbly mess.The hotdog,however,is still plump and delicous(stfu,Im not gay...Im just explaining).It is still acceptable to eat this said "hotdog",but it would seem rather disgusting to eat said "bread-bun".

So the point to the story is...don't have sex with food products.

[C.F. Kane]

...someone failed Introduction to Metaphors

[bulok]

If you believe in evolution and nature etc. then it makes sense that guys are meant to be promiscuous. They can produce sperm all the time, they are supposed to spread it.

Women on the other hand are naturally supposed to be selective and can only reproduce once (technically).

So our natural instinct is to shun a promiscuous woman because

a) she's not being selective and adding a potentially bad set of genes to the pool

and

b) she's a dirty whore.

Confess your sins you filthy ****s! REPENT!

[moop501]

...someone failed Introduction to Metaphors
Obviously not me,you frivolous whore.

Go cry yourself to sleep because you didn't peel the skin off of your fried chicken.:mad:

[redmarvel]

Women are "nesters" by instinct. They want to stay in one place and have one man to support them. When a woman goes against this method of life, she's viewed as abnormal and therfore "bad".

Men are "hunter/gatherers" by instinct. They are supposed to travel around and while doing so, they attempt to spread their genetic attributes as far and wide as possible. Because this is an ancient instinct they are often forgiven for letting their baser nature take over.

Frankly fooling around a lot in this day and age is just plain stupid. There is no perfect protection from all the different sexual diseases out there.

[jaguarr]

I'm not simply talking about one movie, jag. I'm talking about the seemingly double standard that some people have.

Spend some time reading up on gender inequality studies, then. This ground has been tread a kabillion times.

jag

[Sabretooth]

This movie looks so goddamn stupid :(

[PLAS]

here's how a friend of mine justified his being unfaithfull to his girlfriend and how it would not be fair for her to be unfaithfull to him:

"it's not the same, cuz she's gonna be looser when she comes back from it"

sometimes I feel not very proud of the company I keep :(

[logansoldcigar]

here's how a friend of mine justified his being unfaithfull to his girlfriend and how it would not be fair for her to be unfaithfull to him:

"it's not the same, cuz she's gonna be looser when she comes back from it"

sometimes I feel not very proud of the company I keep :(

Now, what i read here is that your friend is admitting..ermmmm...how to phrase this with the necessary level of subtlety for the hype.....I know....he is admitting his knob is small.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hahaha, what wise friends you have.

[PLAS]

Now, what i read here is that your friend is admitting..ermmmm...how to phrase this with the necessary level of subtlety for the hype.....I know....he is admitting his knob is small.
a couple of females friends of mine he had been intimate weren't that positive about his status in said department

[Ronny Shade]

I can't wait for this movie

[Colossal Spoons]

^That's a funny joke. You're funny.

[terry78]

Men are supposed to spread their seed and be open to having as much sex as possible, that's what we're taught. Women are supposed to be delicate flowers, protected from doing such things. Though ironically when they tell us we should sleep with lots of chicks we're actually going against what they tell the women to do, so it's one big contradiction.

[Ronny Shade]

I was serious

[Colossal Spoons]

I was serious

C'mon, don't torture yourself with this movie.

[Ronny Shade]

Brittany Snow ≠ Torture

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, you're going to see the movie b/c of a hot girl?

[Ronny Shade]

pretty much

[Colossal Spoons]

You're one of those people with "disposable income" that Jag was talking about on the first page.

[Ronny Shade]

not really.

and it's not just cause she's hot. looks ≠ charm



besides, it looks funny

[jaguarr]

Son, no girl is worth enduring that kind of torture for. Especially one you're never going to meet. Just download some pictures of her, do your business, and then save your $10 for something more worthwhile than this movie like a downpayment on head trauma surgery or something. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Word

[Ronny Shade]

Son, no girl is worth enduring that kind of torture for. Especially one you're never going to meet. Just download some pictures of her, do your business, and then save your $10 for something more worthwhile than this movie like a downpayment on head trauma surgery or something. :up:

jag
and we're back to the whole jag not understanding ronny thing

[jaguarr]

and we're back to the whole jag not understanding ronny thing

It's a vicious cycle. :o

jag

[Kool-Aid]

This movie looks good and so do the girls, I think I'll see it.

[Colossal Spoons]

^Are your parents paying for your ticket?

[Kool-Aid]

Why?

[Colossal Spoons]

Cuz I don't wanna see you waste your money. :(

[Topdawg]

the movie is crap anyways.

[PLAS]

that little exchange between colossal spoons and kool-aid was starting to sound NAMBLAesque

[Equint77]

i don't put pussy on a pedistal... so I do what I want....

[Kool-Aid]

Cuz I don't wanan see you waste your money. :(


I can't help it...I love teeny bopper movies.:( This looks like it could be as good as Mean Girls.

[Colossal Spoons]

that little exchange between colossal spoons and kool-aid was starting to sound NAMBLAesque

Heh, nah. Just wonderin if he was indeed a teeny bopper or a grown man with some spare cash.

[terry78]

^Everyone on here is basically a 40 yr. old living in their basement to me. I take nothing at face value. :o

[Kool-Aid]

Heh, nah. Just wonderin if he was indeed a teeny bopper or a grown man with some spare cash.


I buy comics, of course I have spare cash.

[Kool-Aid]

^Everyone on here is basically a 40 yr. old living in their basement to me. I take nothing at face value. :o


What do they dress like?

[Colossal Spoons]

I buy comics, of course I have spare cash.

Hey, those are fun for all. Movies like this are fun for like 5 people.

[Ronny Shade]

part of me enjoys Colossal Spoon's unenlightened snobbery

[Kool-Aid]

Hey, those are fun for all. Movies like this are fun for like 5 people.


You're just mad Regina George sleeped with your best friend well you were dating her.

[The Incredible Hulk]

i don't put pussy on a pedistal... so I do what I want....

but do you cram the pimpage?

[PLAS]

^Everyone on here is basically a 40 yr. old living in their basement to me. I take nothing at face value. :o
I beg to differ

it's not the basement... it's the attic :(

[Colossal Spoons]

part of me enjoys Colossal Spoon's unenlightened snobbery

What would I have to do to become enlightened? I've seen teeny boppery chick flicks; I totally watched Mean Girls






.....upon my girlfriend's request but that part's irrelevant.

[PLAS]

What would I have to do to become enlightened? I've seen teeny boppery chick flicks; I totally watched Mean Girls






.....upon my girlfriend's request but that prt's irrelevant.
I actually thought it was going to be the new Heathers, but I was proved horribly wrong :(

[Equint77]

but do you cram the pimpage?

I'm wayy pimpage... no need to cram. :up:

[Ronny Shade]

It was NOT the new Heathers.

It was okay.

And Spoons, that gf part is not irrelevant

[Colossal Spoons]

Wait, are you a woman?

[PLAS]

Wait, are you a woman?
DUN, DUN, DUNNNNNN

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha

[Ronny Shade]

I'm whatever you want me to be












:rolleyes:

[Colossal Spoons]

That was really a serious question. No sbobbery.

[PLAS]

I'm whatever you want me to be












:rolleyes:
are you a she-male?

[Ronny Shade]

no, I'm a dude

[jaguarr]

Well, Ronny can just as much be a woman's name as it can be a man's. :confused:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok, cool.

[Equint77]

7 N 7 huh spoons.... you like drinking seagrams 7 and 7-up aye?

you lush.

[PLAS]

Well, Ronny can just as much be a woman's name as it can be a man's. :confused:

jag
and he can be as much a woman as the next girl. if he would want to

[Colossal Spoons]

7 N 7 huh spoons.... you like drinking seagrams 7 and 7-up aye?

you lush.

That I do. The first drink to get me to pass the F out. :up:

[Equint77]

That I do. The first drink to get me to pass the F out. :up:

we need to get you some alcohol tolerance. ASAP. :(

[Colossal Spoons]

we need to get you some alcohol tolerance. ASAP. :(

What the heck, I was veeeeery underaged at the time. Now, I'm only a month away :D

[jaguarr]

we need to get you some alcohol tolerance. ASAP. :(

He can't help it. It's all that Agent Orange he got sprayed with in 'Nam. :(

jag

[Equint77]

What the heck, I was veeeeery underaged at the time. Now, I'm only a month away :D

2 shots of powers and you'll be out like a light. :D

[Colossal Spoons]

He can't help it. It's all that Agent Orange he got sprayed with in 'Nam. :(

jag

I can't hear popcorn popping w/out hitting the floor :(

2 shots of powers and you'll be out like a light. :D

Bring it!

[Equint77]

I can't hear popcorn popping w/out hitting the floor :(



Bring it!

call pickles... tell her you won't be coming home..... ever. :( :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, will I be passed out....or with another lady?

[Ronny Shade]

Oh, will I be passed out....or with another lady?
both. But it might be a man

[Colossal Spoons]

both. But it might be a man

Ew. I'd rather be asleep in the company of buxum wenches.

[jaguarr]

Oh, will I be passed out....or with another lady?


Define "lady".... :eek:

jag

[Equint77]

Ew. I'd rather be asleep in the company of buxum wenches.

i'll get you "buxum" wenches... just let me get a shot at pickles. :o :up: :up:

deal?


Deal.

[Colossal Spoons]

Define "lady".... :eek:

jag

7 holes :o

i'll get you "buxum" wenches... just let me get a shot at pickles. :o :up: :up:

deal?


Deal.

And let you besmirch my honor while defiling m'lady? I say "nay". :mad: :o

[jaguarr]

7 holes :o

You make them sound like an unfinished golf course. :confused:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

You make them sound like an unfinished golf course. :confused:

jag

I'll finish 'em alright.

[C.F. Kane]

Go cry yourself to sleep because you didn't peel the skin off of your fried chicken.:mad:



...



...what?

[terry78]

I like how this thread was initially about double standards regarding females then slowly deviated into debauchery involving said females. SHH has yet to let me down. :o

[Jplaya2023]

This movie "John Tucker must die" is about a guy who dates multiple girls at a time, but though they try to thwart him, he's so cool that he uses it as an advantage. It's a comedy and all light hearted or whatever...

But then you realize that the message is that "A guy can be with multiple girls, and be a huge jerk. But in the end, he's just a jerk." If this movie were called "Samantha Carrie must die", and was about a cheerleader who dates multiple guys, then she'd be considered a ****. No one would say "What a lovable ****/whore." The character would just be condemned.

So what makes the difference? The media makes fun of women who have dated different men. Paris Hilton constantly has sex jokes thrown at her, yet Ron Jeremy is celebrated.

So where's this double standard come from?

This is an acccepted and needed double standard. Let it be and move on.

[Ronny Shade]

I like how this thread was initially about double standards regarding females then slowly deviated into debauchery involving said females. SHH has yet to let me down. :o
there was a little bit in there about the appeal of teeny bopper cinema as well

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, don't forget about that part.