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emi
07-25-2006, 09:12 AM
From Cinescape website:

Scooper Shan wrote me today from the Comic Con with a scoop regarding the possibility of Tom Cruise still being involved in IRON MAN.

Shan wrote:

Hey Guys,

I was at Comic Con on Saturday for the MARVEL Panel. I might even have a scoop for you that WASN'T announced from anyone on the panel. I sat a row behind two of the guys from Paramount - I knew they were from Paramount because they had call sheets, or itineraries of the panel, with Paramount logos all over them and kept mentioning 'the time''.

There was a woman too - and they were talking amongst themselves once the IRON MAN stuff got underway. All I heard was this "I believe Tom Cruise has got it in the bag, yeah". That's what one of them said to the other. I swear. I remember Cruise rumors a few years back about this, but didn't know he still in the mix? I don't know how much these people would know, but I think it's still very interesting nonetheless.

Shan.


Well there you have it! Could Cruise still be involved? If it means anything, Shan is a constant scooper for Cinescape, and not just a random bird flying around my apartment!

Favreau has said that he is looking for a relative unknown for the part, but time will tell. Thanks Shan for the heads up!

Ironman24
07-25-2006, 09:30 AM
Well, thats interesting, I will not say yeah or nay, I wouldn't be surprised if Cruise got the role, remember, he was talked to by New Line for the role when they had it and Nick Cassavetes was directer, he walked away saying he didn't like the direction in was going, but didn't say he would never do it, obviuosly it all fell apart with New Line and is now with Marvel and Paramount, Cruise has always said he wants the role and would love to play Tony Stark, will he, hard to say and I'll reserve judgement until something more concret is said.

emi
07-25-2006, 09:37 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Cruise got the role

Yeah, agreed, actually I don't buy the "unknown actor casting": Favreau already tricked us with the Mandarin.

lordofthenerds
07-25-2006, 11:39 AM
I thought that they're looking for an unknown. :confused: I do like Cruise for the role though.

Superhero Hype!
07-25-2006, 11:41 AM
Favreau is witty, so I wouldn't be surprised. Tom hasn't committed to his next project, so anything's possible. Not mentioning it on main until we get more solid word though.

emi
07-25-2006, 12:29 PM
Tom hasn't committed to his next project

Exactly, it's the first time that Cruise still hasn't committed to his next movie...rather suspecting...

COME ON !
07-25-2006, 12:45 PM
I think it would be unwise to pick Cruise, because there is a growing backlash against his behaviour and wacky beliefs. That could affect the box office performance of Iron Man.

Yellow Cyclone
07-25-2006, 12:50 PM
hmmmm this is interesting...i'd love cruise if the ever so tricky fraveau could keep the tabloid stuff on the d/l...he'd instantly bring a bigger budget

but is his schedule really that open? he's done with the mission impossible movies, and i'm sure is looking for a new franchise, but imdb says's he's got 2 in 07 and one in 08?

if he made stark a super alcoholic/withdrawn man in the sequels, then that's were cruise really shines, not playing the normal squeaky-clean protagonist rolls he usually does (see: collateral, last samura and vanilla sky)

Ironman24
07-25-2006, 01:09 PM
Favreau is witty, so I wouldn't be surprised. Tom hasn't committed to his next project, so anything's possible. Not mentioning it on main until we get more solid word though.

Thats the right thing to do, until some like Varity or Entertainment weekly says something or even Marvel, right now its what a fan says he over heard at comic con, hard to confirm that.

Advanced Dark
07-25-2006, 01:24 PM
If he does get the job please no freaking close ups of him smiling. Try acting Tom like you did in MI:3 which was good. None of that WOTW garbage.

SolidSnakeMGS
07-25-2006, 02:07 PM
I'd imagine they'd want an unknown instead of a huge celebrity would would rob the movie of character buy-in, not to mention so much money going to the actor as opposed to SFX, costume, etc.

Lone Wolf
07-25-2006, 02:36 PM
I thought that they're looking for an unknown. :confused: I do like Cruise for the role though.

He isn't looking for an unknown. It was misquoted. Favreau wants someone with experience. But at the same time, a low profile to the general public. Even though he's said before that whoever he finds, and thinks can portray Stark, the way he's bringing him on screen, he'll cast. Well known or not.

theShape
07-25-2006, 02:38 PM
Tom Cruise is too busy pretending to have a baby.

COME ON !
07-25-2006, 02:42 PM
Tom Cruise is too busy pretending to have a baby.

Hehe:D

Superhero Hype!
07-25-2006, 03:40 PM
If he does get the job please no freaking close ups of him smiling. Try acting Tom like you did in MI:3 which was good. None of that WOTW garbage.

Uhm, I would blame that on the director, no?

Superhero Hype!
07-25-2006, 03:44 PM
IF (keyword IF) this has ANY truth to it, you won't hear an announcement until Cruise/Wagner Productions extends its deal with Paramount, me thinks.

Advanced Dark
07-25-2006, 04:50 PM
Uhm, I would blame that on the director, no?

Pretty much all the directors of his films do that. I think Tom has some clause in his contract that says we have to see him smile at least 400 times per film while shooting a close up of his mouth, and another clause that states there must be a Scientology tent on the studio lot during produciton.

Part 2 is a fact.

ChrisBaleBatman
07-25-2006, 06:18 PM
I dunno.....I think Cruise might not be the right choice. There's alot of controversy surrounding him, and dealing with that might be hard for the a new franchise. Plus, there's no gurantee that his plate would be clean for future films.

I mean, think about it....the guys is usually very busy, filming huge flicks, so....I dunno.

Plus, he's too old. Isn't Cruise in his 40's?

Advanced Dark
07-25-2006, 06:39 PM
40's isn't too old really and Cruise could pass off as someone in his 30's. The biggest problem is his expense and dealing with his schedule for the sequels. He'll be raping a big % of the gross and nobody wants that.

SpideredOut
07-25-2006, 09:56 PM
Tom Cruise is Iron Man ... Again?

Posted Jul 25th 2006 4:01PM by Erik Davis (http://www.cinematical.com/bloggers/erik-davis)
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http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2006/07/ironman.jpgThat's right folks, the rumor rabbits are at it again. Even though director Jon Favreau (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0269463/) has stated Tom Cruise (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/) is and will not be in the running for the lead role (http://www.cinematical.com/2006/05/24/john-favreau-tom-cruise-is-not-iron-man/) in Iron Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371746/), word leaking out of Comic-Con suggests that might not be the case. According to Cinescape via one of their top secret Comic-Con scoopers, the news leaked out of Saturday's Marvel Panel. Mind you, not from anyone on the actual panel -- oh no, the scooper overheard the information from the three Paramount suits seated in front of him.
What did he hear? Well, as the panel was discussing Iron Man, one of the three suits said, "I believe Tom Cruise has got it in the bag." Interesting. What is this bag? Where did it come from? Is it brown? Green? Silver? And what exactly does Tom Cruise have in it? Perhaps the scooper, instead, heard a word that rhymed with 'bag'. Honestly, that would make a lot more sense. So, what's the deal here? Is Tom Cruise really back in the mix? It makes sense to include the star seeing as Marvel is self-financing the flick. An unknown Iron Man could equal a box office disaster. However, throw Tom Cruise in there and you're guaranteed to bring home the bacon. I guess we shall wait and see ...



Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

YJ1
07-25-2006, 11:08 PM
Good God.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The last thing we need is that crazy ego maniac and all his scientologist baggage. Why won't this rumor stay dead? Didn't MI3's box office prove that America has grown tired of this psycho and his antics? Why not cast Saddam instead? He's got the mustache and he's got nothing better to do before his execution date is finally set.

That's not even a bad joke judging by this poll that states that Cruise is less desirable then Saddam Hussein.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/2006/03/10/tom_cruise_less_desirable_than.html

JUST SAY NO ... to Tom Cruise. (I sound like Katie's dad don't I?)

Abaddon
07-25-2006, 11:11 PM
Please..no.:(

WTFwuzThT
07-26-2006, 12:05 AM
Yeah, if they want somebody that is bankable this idiot is not the way to go. I'm willing to go out on a limb here and trust Favreau until we see something Singer-esque from him though. The teaser poster is inspiring so until further notice this is on my must see list.

Darth Rockwell
07-26-2006, 12:14 AM
Tom Cruise needs to just go hang out with Xenu and get it over with. He drives me crazy. If he is Iorn Man then I will not see the film.

Yellow Cyclone
07-26-2006, 12:57 AM
Good God.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The last thing we need is that crazy ego maniac and all his scientologist baggage. Why won't this rumor stay dead? Didn't MI3's box office prove that America has grown tired of this psycho and his antics? Why not cast Saddam instead? He's got the mustache and he's got nothing better to do before his execution date is finally set.

That's not even a bad joke judging by this poll that states that Cruise is less desirable then Saddam Hussein.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/2006/03/10/tom_cruise_less_desirable_than.html

JUST SAY NO ... to Tom Cruise. (I sound like Katie's dad don't I?)

dude, you linked to thesuperficial, which in turn was referencing a STUFF MAGAZINE poll...that's some pulitzer stuff right there ;)

yes the scientology baggage is bad, BUT MI3 was still the best of the series, and cruise (99% of the time) makes good movies. he still has quite a succesful track record for budgets, quality, and box office. i'd rather have a good movie with tom cruise, than a mediocre one with an unknown.

although if fraveau can find somebody who looks the part and can act it, then more power to him. but its no secret that stark has been drawn eerily similar to cruise in the past couple of years

The Chibi Kiriyama
07-26-2006, 01:35 AM
JUST SAY NO ... to Tom Cruise. (I sound like Katie's dad don't I?)

I wouldn't take pride in that. Last time I heard Tom sowed his evil seed in her garden for all the father said otherwise.

But, speaking seriously, Tom Cruise is not the man for the job. He tends to overact and is better suited for films like War of the Worlds than Iron Man. If anything he would come off as his low-toned self-indulgent self even moreso as Tony Stark, which is not what his character needs (even though Civil War is hellbent on making him seem that way). And...geez...could you imagine what he would do to promote the movie?

"Dateline Tonight: Tom Cruise is caught at a bar someplace in Los Angeles getting drunk, or as he phrases it 'getting ready for the role'."

7Hells
07-26-2006, 02:26 AM
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little...

kpjoon
07-26-2006, 03:12 AM
Enough with this tom cruise scientology bashing nonsense.
It's seriously getting old.
I think Tom can do a great job playing Tony Stark.
The man can act.

Dr.Dude
07-26-2006, 04:12 AM
Bleh, you know, the thing is.... in many ways Tom Cruise would be the perfect candidate for Stark. He's a good actor and this role would play right into his strong suits --- at one time he was even my top choice.

But at this point.... nah. He'd bring all the baggage of his current bad press to this movie, basically hurting it in the long run.... and besides, I like Favreau's notion of using an unknown so Tony is Tony, instead of it just seeming like Tom Cruise playing Tony.

Raiden
07-26-2006, 04:33 AM
I'd rather have Marvel cast an unknown to play Tony Stark than Tom Cruise. He may be a talented actor, but he carries too much baggage with him, and his asking price is way too high. Besides, it'd be hard to have a trilogy with an actor who probably want a good percentage of the gross, making it very risky financially.

I hope the execs at Paramount will not force Marvel to cast Cruise just because they have a relationship with him.

Red X
07-26-2006, 09:38 AM
Personally I would be very happy with Cruise having the role.

jbsuperman2
07-26-2006, 12:23 PM
I sooooo don't want Cruise anywhere near 'Iron Man" with his scientology. Ewww...he would prolly not wanna do the whole "alcholism" thing cuz of that.

jbsuperman2
07-26-2006, 12:28 PM
My crystal ball predicts a casting announcement very soon.....


I'm more hyped for Spidey 3 and Ghost Riderm though. Iron Man just seems so far away. Perhaps the teaser trailer will hype me up some more.

Ironman24
07-26-2006, 12:31 PM
The thing is Cruise is a heck of an actor, and would do a great job as Stark, I loved his performances in Last Samurai and Collaterial, unfortunatly he really has hurt his popularity with his comments and act, would I like to see him as Tony Stark, sure, he's still the biggest actor in Hollywood, but he needs to clean up his act off screen.

That-Guy
07-26-2006, 12:58 PM
Yeah, I think Tom Cruise could be a great Iron Man... I just think that his recent public actions have hurt his career quite a bit. M:I3's box office take, while respectable, was not as great as M:I2's, and that is most likely a reflection of that.

I'm not saying that the man has to keep his mouth shut about various issues if he doesn't want to... but if he continues to behave the way he has been over the last year, its going to do nothing but hurt his career.

WTFimVENOM
07-26-2006, 03:04 PM
Tom Cruise in The LAst Samuri looks just like stark. Hes a little short but thats nothing that the suit can't fix

The Chibi Kiriyama
07-26-2006, 03:29 PM
Enough with this tom cruise scientology bashing nonsense.
It's seriously getting old.
I think Tom can do a great job playing Tony Stark.
The man can act.

No one has said anything negative about his religious beliefs...we've just been saying he would not make a good Tony Stark on the big screen.

Mr. Credible
07-26-2006, 03:35 PM
i'd like to see cruise in the role... i can picture stark as a combination of his characters in vanilla sky and the last samurai.

and since favreau has more or less said that iron man will probably always be cgi on screen, it doesn't really matter that cruise is short.

YJ1
07-26-2006, 04:41 PM
dude, you linked to thesuperficial, which in turn was referencing a STUFF MAGAZINE poll...that's some pulitzer stuff right there ;)

yes the scientology baggage is bad, BUT MI3 was still the best of the series, and cruise (99% of the time) makes good movies. he still has quite a succesful track record for budgets, quality, and box office. i'd rather have a good movie with tom cruise, than a mediocre one with an unknown.


The story, direction and FX will carry this movie, not the actor. So, a good movie with Tom Cruise will be a good movie without him. I liked MI3 but the fact is that America has had enough of Cruise as a person and this has overflown on to Cruise as an actor. More surveys and polls (besides Stuff Mag) name Cruise as the most annoying man in America. Marvel's first big solo venture just doesn't need that type of baggage. Cruise has always been a bankable star but post-Oprah nutty Cruise has severely lost his appeal. Women dislike Cruise on many levels simply from his Brooke Shields tirade and the fact that he is robbing the cradle to form Tomkat. Cruise bad mouthing Christians and organized religion and constantly promoting scientology doesn't sit well with a number of people. Like YC claims, MI3 was a good movie and yet it still underperformed at the box office.

Hunter Rider
07-26-2006, 05:52 PM
Tom Cruise would probably be a better Stark than most suggested in these parts and I'm a huge fan but right now he has to lay low and let things blow over,he shot himself in the foot when he had been untouchable for nearly 2 decades,his fault.
Iron Man would have benefited from Cruise pre 2005 but right now he may well hurt it more than help it

Darthphere
07-26-2006, 05:55 PM
I like Cruise for Stark, the problem is at that point it becomes another Tom Cruise movie, not an Iron Man mvoie.

VICTORVONDOOMX
07-26-2006, 10:16 PM
IM doesn't deserve Cruise's baggage.
Besides, the armor would probably become an ancient alien artifact filled with the knowledge of Urantia...

tamron
07-27-2006, 12:34 AM
Why won't this rumor stay dead?

Because The Cruiser has said for years he wants to play Iron Man, and despite bad publicity, he still has enough Hollywood clout to make it happen.The is he or isn't he saga will only end once Favs announces who has the part.

WTFwuzThT
07-27-2006, 02:02 AM
Maybe they should tell him to renounce scientology and they'll give him the part. Then maybe we won't have to listen to more of his psychotic alien induced ramblings.

jeaf7
07-27-2006, 11:36 AM
Even though Im not a Cruise fan, since hes a nut job nowdays. I do say facts are facts hes a dam good actor and will fit the role perfect.

Advanced Dark
07-27-2006, 11:40 AM
^ yeah but is he worth the cost in a film where a no name could do just as well without the cruise distraction and nuttiness? if he does get the job imagine the difficulties in getting a sequel done.

COME ON !
07-27-2006, 11:49 AM
^ yeah but is he worth the cost in a film where a no name could do just as well without the cruise distraction and nuttiness? if he does get the job imagine the difficulties in getting a sequel done.

He isn't. He would demand a 20 mill dollar paycheck(at least) and part of the gross. He just isn't worth it. Iron Man doesn't need Tom Cruise. Add to that all the negative buzz around him and you know he isn't right.

Besides, a man whose "religion" says that people with autism etc doesn't deserve to live, among many other things , shouldn't play a character like Iron Man. He'd be good for Hitler though.

Dirk McMahon
07-27-2006, 11:59 AM
Besides, a man whose "religion" says that people with autism etc doesn't deserve to live, among many other things , shouldn't play a character like Iron Man. He'd be good for Hitler though.

wow scientology really says that?:down :confused:

COME ON !
07-27-2006, 12:03 PM
wow scientology really says that?:down :confused:

Yup, I'll try to find it for you.

gerbstat
07-27-2006, 06:45 PM
http://members.aol.com/gerbstat/sanitized.jpg

Advanced Dark
07-27-2006, 06:46 PM
^ Oh God.

Dirk McMahon
07-27-2006, 07:16 PM
Errol Flynn would have been perfect, but of course, he's dead.

then get the guy who played errol flynn in the aviator.

O'Haire
07-28-2006, 12:15 AM
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/ironman03.jpg

:up:

Cruise may be annoying. But he is good enough to make you forget what he is like outside of his films. At least for me he is.

I wouldn't have any problem with him getting the role.

josh8
07-28-2006, 12:31 AM
outside of 'collateral', cruise hasnt done any good work in the last ten or so years, in my opinion. it's like he doesnt even try to be someone other than tom cruise anymore in his movies.

and i think he's actually rather irritating when trying to play the playboy character. he was absolutely awful in 'vanilla sky'. it was like watching a child try to impress while the other actors tried to work. penelope cruz, cameron diaz, and jason lee were acting circles around him. when he said "bro", i couldnt stop laughing. and this was before all the negative backlash so it wasnt biasing me.

anyways, i dont think marvel will let him be cast because his star power is so unpredictable these days and they cant take that risk. this is their first studio venture and they need to play it safe.

O'Haire
07-28-2006, 12:34 AM
outside of 'collateral', cruise hasnt done any good work in the last ten or so years, in my opinion. it's like he doesnt even try to be someone other than tom cruise anymore in his movies.

The Last Samurai was very good.

josh8
07-28-2006, 12:47 AM
The Last Samurai was very good.

oh yeah, forgot about that one, but i didnt see it. i didnt want to see it because it looked like another tom cruise vanity project. maybe i'm wrong, but the way it was marketed was a little insulting to japanese culture. you know, how the white man is the only one that can save them all. but like i said, that was just based on the way it was marketed. i could be totally off. but from what i heard from friends, that's what it was like. ie. the shy/blushing (<places hand over mouth> "heeheehee") japanese wife of the guy he killed falls for him. of course. it is a tom cruise movie after all.

sorry for the rant...

anyways, i actually didnt hear that many good things about his performance. mostly i just heard "ken watenabe is the $h!t !!!"

The Chibi Kiriyama
07-28-2006, 02:51 PM
Errol Flynn would have been perfect, but of course, he's dead.

Heh...Flynn would not need repulsor rays and an armor to kick a man's ***. The movie would have consisted of Tony Stark picking out his favorite belt and fighting it out lumberjack-style for 2 hours.

Cinemaman
07-28-2006, 04:48 PM
He doesn't look like Tony Stark and he would turn Iron Man movie into New Tom Cruise Summer Blockbuster :down

He is good actor, but he isn't Iron Man.

Advanced Dark
07-28-2006, 05:33 PM
I have no problem with Tom's look...just his personality is bigger than the film itself. He did good w/MI:3 but can he shake that horrific baggage.

ghost113
07-28-2006, 08:44 PM
I will agree that pic up to pdoes look like tom , I'm even a fan of tom, but truth is I would not like to see him as Tony, Big time actors ruin comic films except the somewhat famous casting for Prof. X everyone else was horrible Daredevil coould have been better if craptastic ben afffleck wasn't Matt.

Spider-Fan
07-28-2006, 11:31 PM
You see, Tom could do well as Stark, but as many have stated, he has many problems with the media. He needs to address this before I'd be happy with him as Stark. I think some of the stuff with Cruise has been overblown, but that is just me.

ghost113
07-29-2006, 04:26 PM
tom cruise is too big for this movie it truly needs an unknown leading it.

Lone Wolf
07-29-2006, 05:13 PM
He doesn't look like Tony Stark and he would turn Iron Man movie into New Tom Cruise Summer Blockbuster :down

He is good actor, but he isn't Iron Man.

Exactly. People will think "Tom Cruise as Tony Stark/Iron Man". Rather then actually seeing what the character is all about, and who he is. Or in this case, how Favreau plans on introducing the character to audiences. Going with someone who isn't known to the public eye, is the right route. However, it should also be someone who has expierence in the acting genre.

Red X
07-29-2006, 05:15 PM
A few years ago he would have been a fine choice.

Lone Wolf
07-29-2006, 05:21 PM
A few years ago he would have been a fine choice.

He would have. But today all he does is throw people off. With whatever is going on in his "personal" life. I honestly don't believe it would be a great choice for the film. There are some who may like it and then there's some who wouldn't.

tamron
07-30-2006, 12:21 AM
The other problem with Cruise being IM is this; You're talking about one of modern cinema's most famous faces playing a superhero who's face is completely covered with a mask. With as much money as you are paying him, you know they'd end up finding silly contrivances to get the helmet off of IM in major moments. I hated that in the Spider-Man movies, but even moreso in an IM movie, I think that would stick out like a sore thumb. Getting a lesser name gives you more leeway as far as covering his face.

ghost113
07-30-2006, 12:39 AM
Very true my good friend.

NinjaTurtleFan
07-30-2006, 12:44 AM
I'm done with Cruise. If it's not him jumping up and down on a couch, or him worshipping Xenu and touting we should all committ to Scientology, it's him sucking in his last two films "War of the Worlds" and "MI3."

I'm sorry but the man has hit rock bottom and I can't see him as Stark now. I could when he was doing "Minority Report" but definitely not now. Give it to Clive Owen and call it a day. :up: :)

Spider-Fan
07-30-2006, 01:27 AM
I don't want to start a religious war here, but how is Tom saying everyone should turn to Scientology exactly bad? People say it everyday for Christianity. Yes, Cruise has hit rock bottom, but I really think people look too much into him. I mean, should we really care about his religious beliefs? Or his baby? Or his marriage? I personally only care about what I see on screen with these people. I couldn't care less about their personal lives.

That said, Tom could do this role, but he wouldn't be my first choice.

blind_fury
07-30-2006, 02:06 AM
Hiring Tom Cruise would do three things:

1) Scare James Bond producers to choose another release date.

2) Increase the budget for Iron Man.

3) Bring international attention to the movie.

The Guard
07-30-2006, 12:47 PM
It'd be a solid move. There might be better choices for the role, but Cruise would be a good one, I think. He has the looks, he has the talent, and his name recognitition/media coverage aspect would probably make IRON MAN almost a surefire success at the box office and draw other interested stars, etc. And let's face it', he's a fan of the character. The "face" thing is not a huge deal, as much of this film will revolve around Tony Stark out of costume, not just Iron Man in it.

The Guard
07-30-2006, 12:49 PM
It'd be a solid move. There might be better choices for the role, but Cruise would be a good one, I think. He has the looks, he has the talent, and his name recognitition/media coverage aspect would probably make IRON MAN almost a surefire success at the box office and draw other interested stars, etc. And let's face it', he's a fan of the character. The "face" thing is not a huge deal, as much of this film will revolve around Tony Stark out of costume, not just Iron Man in it.

tamron
07-30-2006, 01:49 PM
I don't want to start a religious war here, but how is Tom saying everyone should turn to Scientology exactly bad? People say it everyday for Christianity. Yes, Cruise has hit rock bottom, but I really think people look too much into him. I mean, should we really care about his religious beliefs? Or his baby? Or his marriage? I personally only care about what I see on screen with these people. I couldn't care less about their personal lives.

That said, Tom could do this role, but he wouldn't be my first choice.

It is the fanaticism with which Tom espouses his views and the media attention that espousal garners that has turned people off to him as IM. You mentioned Christianity. One of the most suggested 'name' candidates for Iron Man is Jim Caviziel, a very devout Christian, and he has also turned some people off because of his views, mainly because they are afraid his personal theology will affect the film. Real or perceived, Jim has gotten a reputation of bringing his personal views onto the characters he plays, and Tony, with his womanizing and drinking ways, is far from Jim's moral ideal.

It's more or less this: if fans perceive that an actor will overshadow the character with their personal baggage, they don't want them. Casting Cruise runs that risk.

Spider-Fan
07-30-2006, 06:42 PM
It is the fanaticism with which Tom espouses his views and the media attention that espousal garners that has turned people off to him as IM. You mentioned Christianity. One of the most suggested 'name' candidates for Iron Man is Jim Caviziel, a very devout Christian, and he has also turned some people off because of his views, mainly because they are afraid his personal theology will affect the film. Real or perceived, Jim has gotten a reputation of bringing his personal views onto the characters he plays, and Tony, with his womanizing and drinking ways, is far from Jim's moral ideal.

It's more or less this: if fans perceive that an actor will overshadow the character with their personal baggage, they don't want them. Casting Cruise runs that risk.

Who really cares for their opinions? If Jim makes Stark a Jesus freak, maybe then I would, but if he plays the part like it is written or meant to be played, who cares? These people are paid to act, not spout their beliefs. Nobody watches Tom Cruise because he is a scientologist, they do because he is an actor. I think Tom (more so than Jim) would be a good Stark.

Kmack
07-30-2006, 07:06 PM
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/ironman03.jpg

:up:

Cruise may be annoying. But he is good enough to make you forget what he is like outside of his films. At least for me he is.

I wouldn't have any problem with him getting the role.
Hear, hear! Say what you will about his personal life or couch hopping antics, but you can't deny that he's a good actor.

Hot pic btw.

Advanced Dark
07-31-2006, 01:30 AM
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9705975&postcount=261

I asked Favreau about the Cruise Rumor. Check out the last post in this thread. :)

Kmack
07-31-2006, 01:57 AM
Bummer:( On the flipside, there is that small chance he might...then again:(

kedrell
07-31-2006, 02:16 AM
Yay! I really didn't want Cruise for this.

Spider-Fan
07-31-2006, 02:18 AM
Though I think Cruise would be good, they could do better. I hold out hope that they'll cast the right person.

Advanced Dark
07-31-2006, 10:34 AM
Whoever they pick...will be fine IMO. We can't stress about it. This is Marvels first inhouse pic and Favreau's first big budget effort. There's no reason to believe they'll f this one up.

COME ON !
07-31-2006, 10:55 AM
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9705975&postcount=261

I asked Favreau about the Cruise Rumor. Check out the last post in this thread. :)

Yippie ! Great news.:up:

Advanced Dark
07-31-2006, 10:56 AM
Come ON! Why no avatar?

COME ON !
07-31-2006, 10:58 AM
Come ON! Why no avatar?

hunter rider said I had to get to 300 posts first.

Advanced Dark
07-31-2006, 11:02 AM
Oh I thought it was 100.

Ironman24
07-31-2006, 11:47 AM
I'm not surprised that Cruise is not being considered, like Jon has said he doesn't want an actor who will over shadow Iron man, and Cruise would do that.
Tom comes with baggage as well, and might hurt the movie, taking nothing away from Tom's acting, he's a terrific actor, but his off screen issues would hurt the film.

RedIsNotBlue
07-31-2006, 11:51 AM
Ever since Favreau pulled that unexpected Mandarin announcement I am not taking anything he says as concrete. I am not saying Cruise is in talks for Iron Man but I am pretty sure Faves wouldn't say he was even if Cruise was.

Advanced Dark
07-31-2006, 12:00 PM
I always expected Mandarin because early on on Myspace he made it clear Mandarin was very possible but they couldn't keep him the same as in the comics for obvious reasons, and he hinted at some of the changes back then. I don't even think they considered other villains seriously but wanted to make sure it was possible before annoucing it.

RedIsNotBlue
07-31-2006, 12:20 PM
I am just saying even if Cruise was in talks I don't see his answer being different...lol.

Darthphere
07-31-2006, 12:28 PM
Whoever they pick...will be fine IMO. We can't stress about it. This is Marvels first inhouse pic and Favreau's first big budget effort. There's no reason to believe they'll f this one up.


Those are some pretty good reasons right there.

Red Mask
07-31-2006, 01:47 PM
Tony Stark looks like a cross between Errol Flynn and Howard Hughes. That's how I see him and I'm sticking to it.

Advanced Dark
07-31-2006, 02:08 PM
Those are some pretty good reasons right there.

Not really. Nobody wants these characters to suceed more than Marvel. They have the most to gain from a franchise continuing. They're not looking for instant gratification...they want the franchise to continue. All we can do is judge Favreau on his past films and they've all been good. You'll have a hard time finding an actor or director who doesn't praise him.