boywonder13
07-26-2006, 03:49 PM
Because alot of people don;t know alot about what the movie will be about i made this thread, because alot of plot details, legit ones have been released, details are legit and have been verified by Batman On Film.
News starting from June/July 2005 (all reported on BOF)
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"Our source says, 'Everyone is in agreement that the movie's strength is with Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman...[Katie Holmes] won't be in the sequel...the next romantic interest will be a much stronger actress,' we're told. 'Warner is happy that people are now focusing on who'll be playing The Joker rather than Katie and Tom [Cruise].'"
I've gotten a ton of email here today from people saying they saw/read a CNN (http://www.cnn.com/) reporting which says that Katie Holmes - Rachel Dawes in BATMAN BEGINS - has indeed been dropped from the upcoming sequel. Seemingly, Warner Bros. is not too happy about Ms. Holmes' lack of promotion of HER film this summer.
According to the June 2005 issue of Premiere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premiere_%28magazine%29) magazine, Batman Begins screenwriter David S. Goyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_S._Goyer) said, "The next one would have Batman enlisting the aid of Gordon and Dent in bringing down the Joker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_%28comics%29)... but not killing him. In the third movie, the Joker would go on trial, scarring Dent in the process."
IESB (http://www.iesb.net/dreamworks2005/080505.php) also caught up with Cillian Murphy who told them he knew nothing about the next film and that he's yet to be contacted about returning - which I don't think he will from what I've heard...
"All the major characters from the first film aside from the villains are back."
"Two additions to the cast of 'good guys:' Harvey Dent and Sarah Essen."
"[The] Joker will be in this film, although he will be just one of several major villains." "The Joker. I won't spoil things for you but those expecting an exact translation of [the Character] from the comics, in terms of costume, you will be disappointed. However, let may say that this Joker will be the 'The Joker;' the way character is written is very faithful to [how] he is in the comics and I can see why WB is not interested in actors like Crispin Glover or Johnny Depp."
"I won't reveal all the villains, but I'll leave a few hints that the avid comic fan should be able to decipher. One will be an ambiguous mob boss with ties to the late Dr. Thomas Wayne. Another will be an industrial heir not unlike Bruce Wayne - in fact it could be said that he is a dark mirror of Bruce. Over the course of the story, he will be forced to present a new 'face.' And then we have a small, almost cameo type [appearence by a] villain who is considered a 'classic rouge' as a British arms dealer. It may sound a bit crowded, but it all fits together, makes sense, and works much like a comic story arc."
Sarah Essen - a former GPD cop with "ties" to Gordon - now work for the ATF. "As for the villains plot, the mob boss and the heir get involved with a major arms deal with the 'British Guy,' while Batman and his allies attempt to foil it. [As a result,] they uncover more of the corruption plauging Gotham. Unfortunatly for both sides, nobody knew there was a Joker in the deck who complicates matters."
I got three "names" for you. They could be considered spoilers, so scroll over them if you want to read:
Salvatore Maroni. Roman Sionis. Oswald "The Penguin" Cobblepot....
- "Linus Roache is most certainly back seeing as how there may be some flashbacks showing Thomas Waynes' ties to 'Ambiguous Mob Boss,' and a scene showing the relationship The Waynes' had with the late parents of 'The heir.'"
- "The Joker will be the central villain, although he isn't directly connected to the other 'villain plots.'"
- "The other major villain, 'The heir,' will be more a villain to Wayne himself than Batman - causing a rather interesting sitiuation where Bruce will find all his identities under assult."
- Loeb and Flass will return. The latter is no longer a member of the GPD.
- "In light of Nolan's ambiguous comment about Robin. I know for a fact that [currently, Robin is NOT in the mix]." - "Let me clarify what I said about The Joker's apperence. As far as his physical apperence goes, it seems pretty faitful to the comics - although its' never really explained why he will look the way he does. So no make up or permanent smiles on his face. As far as his costume, by 'exact translation' I mean the kind of translation that has been seen in 'The Animated Series or Burton's 'Batman.' I never said anything saying that we might not see the Joker in purple at some point."
According to the report, The Joker "...won't be zany and clowny but rather, in keeping with the tone of director Chris Nolan's films, will be dark and frightening with a broad smile under his wide-brimmed hat." The story also says that The Penguin will appear as a "Russian arms dealer," although our source said the arms dealer was British, not Russian (Cobblepot Russian?). Now, this adds more legitimacy to our previous sequel plot report,
“I checked out your updates and as far the treatment I read goes, there [was] no Dr. Harleen Quinzel, Dr. Arkham, Dr. Lesile Thompkins or Talia Al Ghul in the sequel. That doesn't mean they won't be in it, just that they weren't in the treatment I read. Keep in mind that this was also the first draft and things do change and I haven't been able to get my hands on any new drafts. I doubt we will see any doctors from Arkham as it is shut down and “The Narrows” is still pretty much a disaster area and a haven for various villains. There is a small subplot about Wayne trying to help fund the clean up and rebuild The Narrows -- particularly [one] involving a massive tenement complex that will be the setting of perhaps the most spectacular action sequence in the film.
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All of this is based on Goyers treatments, though a litle might changed now that there is a differnt writer, but very little.
News starting from June/July 2005 (all reported on BOF)
---
"Our source says, 'Everyone is in agreement that the movie's strength is with Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman...[Katie Holmes] won't be in the sequel...the next romantic interest will be a much stronger actress,' we're told. 'Warner is happy that people are now focusing on who'll be playing The Joker rather than Katie and Tom [Cruise].'"
I've gotten a ton of email here today from people saying they saw/read a CNN (http://www.cnn.com/) reporting which says that Katie Holmes - Rachel Dawes in BATMAN BEGINS - has indeed been dropped from the upcoming sequel. Seemingly, Warner Bros. is not too happy about Ms. Holmes' lack of promotion of HER film this summer.
According to the June 2005 issue of Premiere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premiere_%28magazine%29) magazine, Batman Begins screenwriter David S. Goyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_S._Goyer) said, "The next one would have Batman enlisting the aid of Gordon and Dent in bringing down the Joker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_%28comics%29)... but not killing him. In the third movie, the Joker would go on trial, scarring Dent in the process."
IESB (http://www.iesb.net/dreamworks2005/080505.php) also caught up with Cillian Murphy who told them he knew nothing about the next film and that he's yet to be contacted about returning - which I don't think he will from what I've heard...
"All the major characters from the first film aside from the villains are back."
"Two additions to the cast of 'good guys:' Harvey Dent and Sarah Essen."
"[The] Joker will be in this film, although he will be just one of several major villains." "The Joker. I won't spoil things for you but those expecting an exact translation of [the Character] from the comics, in terms of costume, you will be disappointed. However, let may say that this Joker will be the 'The Joker;' the way character is written is very faithful to [how] he is in the comics and I can see why WB is not interested in actors like Crispin Glover or Johnny Depp."
"I won't reveal all the villains, but I'll leave a few hints that the avid comic fan should be able to decipher. One will be an ambiguous mob boss with ties to the late Dr. Thomas Wayne. Another will be an industrial heir not unlike Bruce Wayne - in fact it could be said that he is a dark mirror of Bruce. Over the course of the story, he will be forced to present a new 'face.' And then we have a small, almost cameo type [appearence by a] villain who is considered a 'classic rouge' as a British arms dealer. It may sound a bit crowded, but it all fits together, makes sense, and works much like a comic story arc."
Sarah Essen - a former GPD cop with "ties" to Gordon - now work for the ATF. "As for the villains plot, the mob boss and the heir get involved with a major arms deal with the 'British Guy,' while Batman and his allies attempt to foil it. [As a result,] they uncover more of the corruption plauging Gotham. Unfortunatly for both sides, nobody knew there was a Joker in the deck who complicates matters."
I got three "names" for you. They could be considered spoilers, so scroll over them if you want to read:
Salvatore Maroni. Roman Sionis. Oswald "The Penguin" Cobblepot....
- "Linus Roache is most certainly back seeing as how there may be some flashbacks showing Thomas Waynes' ties to 'Ambiguous Mob Boss,' and a scene showing the relationship The Waynes' had with the late parents of 'The heir.'"
- "The Joker will be the central villain, although he isn't directly connected to the other 'villain plots.'"
- "The other major villain, 'The heir,' will be more a villain to Wayne himself than Batman - causing a rather interesting sitiuation where Bruce will find all his identities under assult."
- Loeb and Flass will return. The latter is no longer a member of the GPD.
- "In light of Nolan's ambiguous comment about Robin. I know for a fact that [currently, Robin is NOT in the mix]." - "Let me clarify what I said about The Joker's apperence. As far as his physical apperence goes, it seems pretty faitful to the comics - although its' never really explained why he will look the way he does. So no make up or permanent smiles on his face. As far as his costume, by 'exact translation' I mean the kind of translation that has been seen in 'The Animated Series or Burton's 'Batman.' I never said anything saying that we might not see the Joker in purple at some point."
According to the report, The Joker "...won't be zany and clowny but rather, in keeping with the tone of director Chris Nolan's films, will be dark and frightening with a broad smile under his wide-brimmed hat." The story also says that The Penguin will appear as a "Russian arms dealer," although our source said the arms dealer was British, not Russian (Cobblepot Russian?). Now, this adds more legitimacy to our previous sequel plot report,
“I checked out your updates and as far the treatment I read goes, there [was] no Dr. Harleen Quinzel, Dr. Arkham, Dr. Lesile Thompkins or Talia Al Ghul in the sequel. That doesn't mean they won't be in it, just that they weren't in the treatment I read. Keep in mind that this was also the first draft and things do change and I haven't been able to get my hands on any new drafts. I doubt we will see any doctors from Arkham as it is shut down and “The Narrows” is still pretty much a disaster area and a haven for various villains. There is a small subplot about Wayne trying to help fund the clean up and rebuild The Narrows -- particularly [one] involving a massive tenement complex that will be the setting of perhaps the most spectacular action sequence in the film.
----
All of this is based on Goyers treatments, though a litle might changed now that there is a differnt writer, but very little.