Sinister Six for Spidey 6, Who Wants It?

[CrypticOne]

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/e/e5/Sinister_Six_-Marvel_Adventures_Spider-Man_-3-.jpg/442px-Sinister_Six_-Marvel_Adventures_Spider-Man_-3-.jpg

I found this awesome pic and would you guys want a Sinister Six for Spier-Man 6? I would want one. But I kinda doubt that we will get a Sinister Six. But it would be awesome.

[FaT_tONle]

If it was done right.... I'm all for it... if they make a new trilogy... it has to happen...

[ges681]

would be hard to make it work with 6 villains and spidey. but if they made it work right it would kick a$$

[weezerspider]

that would rock, if done right.

[NinjaTurtleFan]

It'd be awesome but they'd have to have a magnificent writing staff to pull it off and make it work. The non-comic going audience might think "supervillain overload." But for the comic-going public we'd be all super happy. I think though the best way to certify a Sinister Six movie is to just cameo the villains in each movie and than allow a team-up.

[Spideyfan01]

The sinister 6 would be cool, but because they keep killing off villians, they'll have to introduce a LOT of enemies!

[cosbydaf]

Yeah, that would be a perfect way to end the series, but the biggest problem would be trying to cast Alfred Molina (If they bring back Doc Ock) again after however many years, but you never know.



BTW, I have that comic you posted the cover of, and it's great!

[Melkia2880]

With that many baddies all in one go there would be no way to service all the characters unless it was a Lord of the Rings style series, having one story flow from one film to the next.

[cosbydaf]

With that many baddies all in one go there would be no way to service all the characters unless it was a Lord of the Rings style series, having one story flow from one film to the next.
They could always just have them without introductions.

[bbf2]

REVENGE OF THE SINISTER MSPAINT!

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[ges681]

couldnt happen is ock died, and sandman dies in this flick.

[Doctor of Doom]

Geez this is a revival....

Doesn't need to be the original lineup but YES. We def. don't need all the villains introduced in one film. Hell, even use Venom or someone in the six, but give us six evil villains for the sixth movie. That would be awesome. I'd go the Ultimate route and have them break out of prison (or whatever) together though- makes more sense than just "let's kill spider-man!"

[GNR]

Hopefully there's enough villains alive.It's customary for the main villain to die in every Spidey flick.:P

[Joker]

REVENGE OF THE SINISTER MSPAINT!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/shadowfirejosh/lawl3.jpg

LOL! That looks kinda cool.

Why is Vulture wearing glasses though?? :D

couldnt happen is ock died

No, he didn't. Sam, Avi and Molina say otherwise.

and sandman dies in this flick.

No, he doesn't. Venom does though.


Doesn't need to be the original lineup but YES. We def. don't need all the villains introduced in one film.

The only one out of the original line up that we don't need is Kraven.

Hell, even use Venom or someone in the six, but give us six evil villains for the sixth movie.

Venom is not a team player. He would never team with evil doers.

[Doctor of Doom]

Actually, Venom has been a member of the Sinister Six before.

Sure he subsequently turned on them and tried to hunt down and kill them all but that is irrelevant :P

[Melkia2880]

I would assume Vulture is wearing glasses because Larry David wears glasses...

[SolidSnake]

how about for Spidey 6, they use all the villains they used in the first 5, somehow bring back GG, Ock, Venom, Sandman, and then whoever they use in the other movies.

[Chris Wallace]

DO NOT BRING BACK THE GREEN GOBLIN. We saw him impaled, Peter stripped off his costume & carried him home. He was buried. If he didn't show any life signs in all that time it would be stupid to say he's alive.
DO NOT PUT VENOM IN THE SINISTER 6. Howard Mackie tried that & it was terrible.
As for the idea of Sinister 6 in general, it could go either way. It'd either be awesome or terrible.

[lizard855]

As long as Rami does it right i am down with it.

[Chris Wallace]

Which means not doing any of what I just described.

[November Rain]

sinister six is probably the worst comic based idea ever....

[Chris Wallace]

6 arrogant supervillains tired of being humiliated by a teenage boy weighing a buck 60, deciding to work together to do something about it? No, the IDEA is good. Like many other good ideas, it got misused & run into the ground.

[arachnid-guy]

I wouln't mind.....not at all..

But it would have to be done 'right!'

[Chris Wallace]

Define "done right". To me, done right means the villains-at least 4 of them-are introduced before the 6th movie so we don't spend too much time on them. Their reason for coming together is logical & well-explained, & Doc Ock is in it, in all his twisted glory.

[arachnid-guy]

For me...'done right' is well, yes establish the main members of the '6' first (i.e- Ock, Sandman, Mysterio, Lizard...) then introduce the rest at the begining of the movie.

Then have them planning and conspiring against spidey thru the movie....a kidnapping ploy? Kidnap MJ/Gwen...luring Pete to a certain place...(bridge????) and staging a massive ambush.

Possibly?

[Chris Wallace]

1-I don't see Lizard as a good fit, nor do I really want him in a movie.
2-I think the kidnapping MJ ploy has kinda run its course. I'd prefer they just cause chaos throughout the city to draw him out.

[arachnid-guy]

Well...some other enemy.

And...yes.....destruction would be pretty cool.

I dunno...the concept is good. The plot isn't.

[November Rain]

6 arrogant supervillains tired of being humiliated by a teenage boy weighing a buck 60, deciding to work together to do something about it? No, the IDEA is good. Like many other good ideas, it got misused & run into the ground.nah the idea is horrid.

six is overkill, just used for the alliteration effect basically, same as fantastic four, it has a better ring to it.

there's no superhero out there that requires a rogue of six of his toughest villains in order to bring him down, especially when the feat has been done on a one-on-one basis before.

to me, if you are going to go out and do something against an individual, do it Kraven style or last hunt style, no messing around with groupies, no distractions.

anything more than a band of three for a single hero is just silly and really demeans all villains involved.

villains teaming together should only occur against big hitting teams like fantastic four or the avengers/x-men. theere is no reason, no matter how much hate there is between them, no reason not to keep it professional against one dude.

look at how it was handled in the ultimate line, there were five of them, and they weren't even all necessary in capturing spidey and ringing him in. The five of them were taken out by the ultimates and spiderman.

even though they didn't share common goals, they all worked together professionally, even the big two of norman and ock, which would be like impossible to comprehend.

six is just overkill and for me, that's why it's a really bad idea. besides, it's not like they were the first bunch of villains to team up against someone...so it's not even an original good idea.

[Chris Wallace]

But it wasn't JUST about revenge on Spider-Man. There was that whole world domination thing. Besides, as I recall, Ock was just duping the others into doing all the work so he could reap all the reward.

[November Rain]

what lies on the outskirts isn't important to me. the fact that they can't act professionally enough to deal with a single threat is too much too comprehend, especially considering that each member has some tactical or physical advantage over spidey in a given situation.

infact villains bounding together to take over the world/city sounds more like a batman film plot....

:o

realistically it's just the numbers. six is a lot of people.

[TKing]

what lies on the outskirts isn't important to me. the fact that they can't act professionally enough to deal with a single threat is too much too comprehend, especially considering that each member has some tactical or physical advantage over spidey in a given situation.

infact villains bounding together to take over the world/city sounds more like a batman film plot....

:o

realistically it's just the numbers. six is a lot of people.

I would be inclined to agree, but what if Spidey had something over the Sinister Six. Like perhaps a weapon, or something? Something that all of the villains are desperate to get their hands on and so they band together?

[Chris Wallace]

That doesn't sound like Spider-Man. What would he have that they'd all want? And how would he get it? Would he make it? What can he make that Otto Octavius can't? And he doesn't make weapons. He's not Iron Man.

[November Rain]

perhaps not make but he could be in the custody of.

It's quite simple to have spidey be witness to an act and unfortunately due to the people around be unwilling to change and decides to act through the courts. Then the six are hired to dispose of him. So technically spidey would be protecting the sinister six from himself (although that wouldn't make the reveal that good when they pull off his mask and realise it's actually peter parker).

heh, this is actually sounding like the premise for a daredevil crossover film...

:up:

all in all, still not interested though

[Chris Wallace]

I'd rather see it as a simple revenge scheme. But instead of just looking to kill him, set out to break him first. How? By destroying what he cares about most; namely NYC.

[Visionary]

Sinister Six could work and work well as a movie. It has to be written with a different logic than the comics. Six villians coming together for the sole purpose of killing Spider-Man is boarderline weak, especially being that a single villains alone gives Spidey a hard enough time.

Now, Six villains coming together for the sole purpose of holding New York City in a death grip, rendering the Police Force, the FBI, the Air-Force, the Mayor, the President, hell, even the Army useless--leaving them free to do what ever the hell they want--now that would work.

Having Spider-Man know without question that he can't stop them together--and getting his ass handed to him trying, he takes them out one by one. Even breaking a few bones while doing it. Electro being second to last and Doc Ock being the final battle. How epic could this be, I'm talking Doc Ock claiming Landmark buildings as his own? Body bags a mile long, and enough spilled blood to fill a river. Shutting down Landmark bridges and tunnels, so no one gets in or out of the City without Doc Ock's permission? Oh it could be huge and compelling. But you have to think big, beyond Spider-Man's reach of battles that you've seen before it.

Oh wait a minute, these films are PG-13...DAMN! :mad:

[Arcturus]

No to sinister 6, 6 villains is too much for one film.

[Visionary]

Sure it is, that's kind of the point.

[edgar_c]

here is what i think might work (with out knowing the ending of 3)
1.Harry goes nuts and becomes the hobgoblin
2.Harry as head of Oz corp fiddles with the glider mecanics creating either the basies for the vulture or beetle suit and hires someone to wear it(that way there is no long origin intro)
3.while working on the suit enginer Max dillion gets into an accidet thus becoming electro
4. and 5. venom and sandman return
6. the lizard is more like the Ultimate Lizard who has far less intelligent than the original Marvel universe Lizard thus having him like a wild animal and releses to sic spider-man or whom ever
havin harry be the mastermind of creating all villians just to get revenge on spider-man so what do you think

[edgar_c]

one more idea also have kraven hunt down the lizard and become it's handler

[Venom 1988]

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[Venom 1988]

I could see a Sinister Six movie.....if handled and done correctly of course. Only thing though is u cant have a Sinister Six without Doc Ock(well an aweasome Sinister Six anyway ).

What good explanation can they give about not only bringing Doc Ock back, but wanting revenge on Spidey? I know Doc Ock is alive(from that interview with Molina a year or 2 ago), I just don't want them bringing him back without a good explanation.
here is what i think might work (with out knowing the ending of 3)
1.Harry goes nuts and becomes the hobgoblin
2.Harry as head of Oz corp fiddles with the glider mecanics creating either the basies for the vulture or beetle suit and hires someone to wear it(that way there is no long origin intro)
3.while working on the suit enginer Max dillion gets into an accidet thus becoming electro
4. and 5. venom and sandman return
6. the lizard is more like the Ultimate Lizard who has far less intelligent than the original Marvel universe Lizard thus having him like a wild animal and releses to sic spider-man or whom ever
havin harry be the mastermind of creating all villians just to get revenge on spider-man so what do you think

Harry Spider-Man 3 spoilers
Harry at the end helps sacrifices his life for Peter by getting impaled by Venom.

[chestermcdragon]

jim carrey-carnage

ben kingsley-vulture

cillian murphy-electro

alfred molina-doc ock

THC-sandman

c g i-ultimate rhino

[shane1337]

here is how it could be done:

have harry have some sort of variation of the chemical that created gg in the first film that causes the body to go into limbo when it sences that it is going to die (your body does this anyhow so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to enhance this) and have a back story that doc oc took it before he strapped on the arms incase something goes wrong and they need to revive him. have it so when doc oc kills himself in the 2 film, harry's team tracks him down with some homing device in the arms, pulls him out of the river and brings him back to life - so doc oc is back in a believable way, and it could be used to bring back harry in a believable way should it be needed after the 3rd film. and "kill" off sandman in a way that he can be easly brought back

run the venom story line for number 4 so that it can lead into a spin-off with venom and carnage having there own movie.

in number 5 introduce electro or another character that can carry most of the movie and have JJJ hire on scorpion to get rid of spiderman. that opens the door for lizard in this film too. end with a question of whether electro and scorpion die

in number 6, bring back harry, now as gg2 and have him as a young carasmatic villian who wants to start the ultimate alliance to take over ny and get rid of spiderman.. bring in doc oc as his right hand man as harry saved his life. bring back scorpion and electro from the last film and sandman from 3 and introduce the new sixth villian (rhino, shocker, vulture - take your pick). have them take over new york as that is what has saved spiderman in the past (bridge scene from 1 and subway from 2, ect.) call it his life blood or something... have them by all accounts end spiderman's in a huge battle (maybe have him saved by the ny spirit once again). finally have there own greed cause rifts in the group allowing spiderman come back and take them out on a one on one bases (or have one of the villians take out another, like have doc oc kill harry, because doc oc doesn't want to be harry's sidekick, overthowing the thrown of the sinister 6 ect.).

that would be a big epic way to end the spiderman series.

ps. sorry for my spelling through out

[Chris Wallace]

I don't like the Harry angle at all. He shouldn't be involved w/the Six-assuming he lives past May, which I doubt. But you're trying to turn him into a full-blown villain & he was never meant to be that.

[Chris Wallace]

And truth be told, I'd like to see something along the lines of Castro's novels.

[Joker]

^^^^^ You didn't need two posts to say that Chris. Use the edit button ;)

If there is going to be a Sinister Six, then Ock has to be the leader. He is the founder, leader, and spirit of the Six. And yes, Harry shouldn't be part of it. The Osborns are not team players.

[Chris Wallace]

Yeah, I know I should've used the edit.

[DarkArachknight]

if they did a 6, i'd assume they would use the sinister 6.


but i really hope that they don't even get to 4.

[spider greg]

couldnt happen is ock died, and sandman dies in this flick.

You know the part with Sandman is a spoiler right? :whatever:

[Chris Wallace]

You know the part with Sandman is a spoiler right? :whatever:

Not if it isn't true.

[mjbull23]

Aside from the idea of having six villains gang up on one hero, logistically i think it would make it extremely difficult to assign any given amount of significant screen time for purposes of developing each of the characters.. we know that three was obviously too much for spiderman three, and that movie runs over 2 1/2 hrs

[Venom 1988]

Christ this thread is old...

[Chris Wallace]

Aside from the idea of having six villains gang up on one hero, logistically i think it would make it extremely difficult to assign any given amount of significant screen time for purposes of developing each of the characters.. we know that three was obviously too much for spiderman three, and that movie runs over 2 1/2 hrs

The idea is that the characters would already be developed. Every variation of the S6 story has happened only after the villains had already been introduced & established. Maybe one or two would have to be intro'd in the selfsame movie, but the rest we'd already know.

[Jick09]

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[HughJackFan420]

The idea is that the characters would already be developed. Every variation of the S6 story has happened only after the villains had already been introduced & established. Maybe one or two would have to be intro'd in the selfsame movie, but the rest we'd already know.


I agree and by the way didn't I already make a thread for this?

Anyways my idea of how they should do the sin 6 is intoduce them along with the kingpin being behind saving the villains in the previous movies that could've possibly escaped death like doc ock, venom, somehow they would have brainwash sandman since he want soft on spidey but that's 4 right there inluding kingpin I imagine their gonna do some character development with lizard in spidey 4 so there's 5 villains now the 6th should introduced developed through spidey 4 and 5 someone coolk like electro or a classic like vulture then in spidey 6 show how kingpin saved the villains and recruited them to introduce the sinister 6

[Spiderine]

nah the idea is horrid.

six is overkill, just used for the alliteration effect basically, same as fantastic four, it has a better ring to it.

there's no superhero out there that requires a rogue of six of his toughest villains in order to bring him down, especially when the feat has been done on a one-on-one basis before.

to me, if you are going to go out and do something against an individual, do it Kraven style or last hunt style, no messing around with groupies, no distractions.

anything more than a band of three for a single hero is just silly and really demeans all villains involved.

villains teaming together should only occur against big hitting teams like fantastic four or the avengers/x-men. theere is no reason, no matter how much hate there is between them, no reason not to keep it professional against one dude.

look at how it was handled in the ultimate line, there were five of them, and they weren't even all necessary in capturing spidey and ringing him in. The five of them were taken out by the ultimates and spiderman.

even though they didn't share common goals, they all worked together professionally, even the big two of norman and ock, which would be like impossible to comprehend.

six is just overkill and for me, that's why it's a really bad idea. besides, it's not like they were the first bunch of villains to team up against someone...so it's not even an original good idea.
I TOTALLY agree. Sounds great for the cartoons but in a movie it will be a cornball fest. I say focus on no more than two villains at a time for the sake of a good story. He has his hands full with one villain at a time as it is. Don't over saturate the film.

[Venom 1988]

I agree and by the way didn't I already make a thread for this?
In case you didn't notice, this thread is almost 3 years old.

[Spider-Vader]

I say save the Sinister Six for the re-boot series. Who's gonna help Spidey? Venom? Sandman? Boring.

Unless Marvel can make a deal with Sony where they can cross-over. Which means Spider-Man could be in a potential Avengers sequel! That'd make me happy since I like the New Avengers alot.

[Doctor Doom]

I do not want to see the Sinister Six at all. :down

[Eelectro 2]

i'd love there to be a sinister 6 movie...but only if its 2 films. theres no way they could fit 6 new villains into a movie and have it make sense, and have origins and explanations of the bad guys. plus the 6 villains would have to be ones we haven't seen yet (no resurrecting already dead villains). my guess would be mysterio, vulture, chameleon, scorpion, rhino, and electro. if they are going to be using either morbius or lizard in part , that still allows there to be these 6 main villains to be used. plus those 6 villains wouldnt' be able to really fill a entire movie on their own, and their classic villains so it works for everybody. it would definetly haveto take place over 2 films. i would lvoe to see individual fights with all the villains as well as a group fight at the climax. obviously spidey coudln't take on all the villains at once on his own unless they started fighting each other, so bringing back sandman in the 2nd film as a help to spidey would further make the ending of sm3 even better. definetly would be a climax to the series, plus it ending on part 6 would be a nice round number

[Pagrebo]

Too bad they killed off Harry. His storyline of returning to help Peter in SM3 could have been more effectively utilized in a Sinister Six storyline. With Goblin and Doc Ock dead, it would have made perfect sense for Harry to be the leader of a group of super villains, only to turn against his "gang" when he realizes that he's not just trying to kill SM, he's trying to kill his best friend. The Six would need a leader, which would need to be introduced in SM4. My vote would be for Kraven. Sandman survived 3, and assuming Lizard is introduced in 4, we have three of the six. In 5 you could introduce two more and one more at the very beginning of 6 (Scorpion, Vulture, and Rhino get my votes). Throughout, Kraven is pooling Spidey's vanquished foes for an assault at the conclusion of 6. This is where Raimi's vision of sympathetic villains could pay off. Sandman and Lizard are already obvious in their conscientious leanings. Scorpion is also traditionally a sympathetic villain. Not sure how it would play out, but I could see numerous possibilities and twists.

[Artistsean]

I do,
I don't care if its not formed by Doc Ock, maybe Kraven forms it,
in the cartoon King Pin formed it.

the Six in the 6th film would be a great send off and introduces a real challenge. He could barely stop one bad guy at a time in the films, so how will he stop six?

[QWoods]

Mysterio can be in Spidey 6 and make the illusion that all of Spidey's villains are back and together as the Sinister Six

[Chris Wallace]

I do,
I don't care if its not formed by Doc Ock, maybe Kraven forms it,
in the cartoon King Pin formed it.

the Six in the 6th film would be a great send off and introduces a real challenge. He could barely stop one bad guy at a time in the films, so how will he stop six?

I care.

[Joker]

I do,
I don't care if its not formed by Doc Ock, maybe Kraven forms it,
in the cartoon King Pin formed it.

I care.

And that cartoon gang was the Insidious Six. The only proper members from the real Six in that were Ock and Mysterio.

[CaptainStacy]

I care.

And that cartoon gang was the Insidious Six. The only proper members from the real Six in that were Ock and Mysterio.

Indeed.

[Duskbyday]

Just because they both have six in thier names, doesnt mean it shouldn't be on that movie. Plus it must be so hard to have each character screen time.

[zeptron]

I care.

And that cartoon gang was the Insidious Six. The only proper members from the real Six in that were Ock and Mysterio.



Funny thing is Vulture another proper member replaced Mysterio later on.

[Venom 1988]

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[thejon93]

Avi Arad wants Sinister Six to fail.

[Construct]

I'm for it. I like to think that Sony licensed the character for 6 films for the purpose of including the Sinister Six in the sixth film.

I see the Six as being upgraded (with help from the Tinkerer), stronger, and/or smarter versions of villains that Spidey would have faced in the first 5 films to present a grand final(?) challenge for a visibly upgraded, stronger, and smarter Spider-Man. That way, the villains have actual meaning to Spider-Man and tie the films together.

Here's a vague image of how I see SM6:

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0606/cw5.jpg

I don't see his identity becoming public or Bullseye being involved, but at least the Six may know who he is.

[Artistsean]

I know everyone wants it as close to the comics as possible, but Doc Ock is dead.
So would you rather them cut out the Sinister Six idea all together just because Doc Ock can't possibly be the leader? Because then that means the idea that six of Spider-man's foes wont team up as one team to attack Spider-Man at once.

[Joker]

Yes, I'd rather they left it out if they don't bring Ock back.

If it's not done right, then don't do it at all.

[Venom'sDad]

I know everyone wants it as close to the comics as possible, but Doc Ock is dead.
So would you rather them cut out the Sinister Six idea all together just because Doc Ock can't possibly be the leader? Because then that means the idea that six of Spider-man's foes wont team up as one team to attack Spider-Man at once.

Well look, this is one of many reasons why I’m not so fond of the direction Sam Raimi has taken the franchise, nor the process he has taken to formulate these stories.

Look, DocOck is the primary reason for the group. It’s not just that he’s the leader; it’s also the fact that he’s a field general as well… on the front lines. This is where having Kingpin(if Sony could get rights to the character), as someone had mention before, takes away from the group. He is neither a leader or a field general. Now only that, HobGoblin, as someone have mention as well, does not have the dynamics of a leader that commands any sense of respect, dominance, or fear from the others members of the team, to do his bidden.

That’s important, because DocOck has always possess the power of influence, in manipulating the team to do his bidden. Convincing them that they all have the same goal, when his in fact have always been a lot more involved than the others. That’s what would be missing without DocOck at the helm or what we won’t get with others leading the team. One of many reasons why I think it won’t ever happen if DocOck is truly suppose to be dead.

This is the price we all pay when the director does not even consider forward thinking, forward planning, as well as, killing off major(A-rated) villains.

[Magneto]

If there is going to be a Sinister Six, then Ock has to be the leader. The Osborns are not team players.

Otto's history of being a team player leaves alot to be desired ;) , however I agree that Ock should be the leader of the group if it's ever realized in a Spider-Man film.

Either get it right, or dont even bother.


:otto:

[Venom 1988]

I know everyone wants it as close to the comics as possible, but Doc Ock is dead.
So would you rather them cut out the Sinister Six idea all together just because Doc Ock can't possibly be the leader? Because then that means the idea that six of Spider-man's foes wont team up as one team to attack Spider-Man at once.

Of course, the Sinister Six is Doc Ock's baby

[Artistsean]

I know that Doc Ock is meant to be dead, and I have to admit I have never read the classic Sinister Six stories (with Doc Ock as a leader) so I have no strong feelings about it,
but I have some ideas how they could do it:

Why not just bring Otto back? Have him appear in Spider-Man 6, shockingly he is alive and back to bad.

Another idea, What if Kraven or some villain has Otto's secret journals of ideas and in the journal its a detailed plan on how to kill Spider-Man. Part of the plan is the Sinister Six.


But again, I don't have strong feelings about having Dock Ock as the leader. I like the idea of six villains teaming up to stop Peter at once that I don't care who the leader is really.
The idea is just too fun and I would hate to just cut it out, ignore it, or deprive others. Of coarse I would have liked it to stick to the comic as much as possible.
But since it wont be, I'm fine with them using a different character. As long as it makes sense.
The cartoon used a different villain as the leader, the Ultimate comics used a different leader, Otto wasn't the Six's only leader in the comics (I think). Otto was the leader in the Spectacular cartoon and that was awesome.
Its just a variation and might bring non comic fans to the comics to find out more about the Sinister Six.

For example, I would be fine with setting up Kraven as a master stratagist who knows his only way to stop Spider-man is to hire help since he is no match physically.
I'd be fine with Otto returning, he never died. But he is mad that Spider-Man left him for dead.
I would even be fine with Norman Osborne returning, never really died just in hiding, and putting the team together.

I think, personally, the Sinister Six is an idea that is just too good to pass up. And using them for the Sixth film as the big finally send off (since Tobey and everyone will be leaving after that) would be a great way to end it.
peter has a hard time just stopping one villain at a time, how in the world can he possibly stop six at once?

So, for me, I would rather them have a different leader, than not use the Sinister Six idea at all.

[Venom 1988]

The cartoon used a different villain as the leader, The 90s toon? Kingpin brought them together but Ock was still the leader of the team.

Otto wasn't the Six's only leader in the comics.
Except for the time where Sandman reformed the team to get back at him, Doc Ock was indeed always the leader.

For example, I would be fine with setting up Kraven as a master stratagist who knows his only way to stop Spider-man is to hire help since he is no match physically. Except he is a match physically, hence the superhuman strength and agility...

[TheSlag]

No Sinister 6. Takes away from the threat that the villains are to Spider-Man. :Down:

Hated the team-up between Sandy and Venom in SM3. Injustice to Venom. And 60 ft. Sandman.. Sheesh.. Kiddie Fare Garbage.

[Artistsean]

The 90s toon? Kingpin brought them together but Ock was still the leader of the team.
Thats true, forgot about that. Still wouldn't mind if he wasn't the leader in the movie.


Except for the time where Sandman reformed the team to get back at him, Doc Ock was indeed always the leader.Like I said, I am not familiar with the comic Sinister Six. But I still love the idea of all his enemies teaming up to fight him all at once in one film. And doing it for the sixth film would just be good marketing.

Except he is a match physically, hence the superhuman strength and agility...
I was under the (wrong) impression that he was like Batman, no powers but extreme amounts of training. So he would have naturally been the master planner, but he has powers. So that messes up that idea.
But I still have no problem with him or another bad guy leading the Six. But I also have no problem with Otto coming back having never really died.
I just want the Sinister Six in the movies.

[Joker]

No Sinister 6. Takes away from the threat that the villains are to Spider-Man. :Down:

Hated the team-up between Sandy and Venom in SM3. Injustice to Venom. And 60 ft. Sandman.. Sheesh.. Kiddie Fare Garbage.

Hey Slag! Great to see you're still alive and kicking, mate :up:

I hated the Venom/Sandman team up, too, but because it just made no sense. Venom and Sandman randomly bump into eachother, and Venom is all "Hey lets team up", when he has not even faced Spidey one on one yet. It's like he was afraid to or something.

Not to mention Venom is not a team player. He would never team up with another villain in order to kill Spidey. Killing Spider-Man is a privelege Venom would never share.

[Pagrebo]

Hey Slag! Great to see you're still alive and kicking, mate :up:

I hated the Venom/Sandman team up, too, but because it just made no sense. Venom and Sandman randomly bump into eachother, and Venom is all "Hey lets team up", when he has not even faced Spidey one on one yet. It's like he was afraid to or something.

Not to mention Venom is not a team player. He would never team up with another villain in order to kill Spidey. Killing Spider-Man is a privelege Venom would never share.

Spot on with your assessment. There are villainous teams to be made in the SM films, but Sandman and Venom???? Thank you, Avi for insisting Venom be used (read: wasted) in SM3.