Dont you think we need more Women in this film? [Archive]

SHF

07-27-2006, 02:10 PM

Ronny Shade

07-27-2006, 02:13 PM

Superheroes are a manly genre

Beelze

07-27-2006, 02:20 PM

Like I suggested once, whenever Bruce appears in public, and not as Batman, he should have two hot European girls with him. Always.

Cinemaman

07-27-2006, 02:21 PM

And lets turn the whole sequel into Brokeback Mountain 2, what you think?

Of course there should be women, some ppl cant live without them :D

SHF

07-27-2006, 02:22 PM

give the guys somethin to look at while we wait for batman/bruce to do something cool.

Alonsovich

07-27-2006, 02:36 PM

The love interests should be for Gordon or Dent. Wayne should get the b***es...:o

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 02:40 PM

ahhh, as long as Alicia Silverstone and Nicole Kidman are no where in site, I'm fine with Women getting more of a starring role...... Katie is okay, she didn't do a bad job, but was just out performed by the other actors, I mean come on guys, were talking about Bale, Oldman, Freeman, Caine, Murphy, and Neelson, they are all superb actors, anyone next to them looks bad....

Octoberist

07-27-2006, 02:44 PM

people kept on saying that Katie Holmes should of been cut and replaced by Harvery Dent. If that happened, this would be an utter sausage factory.

SHF

07-27-2006, 02:50 PM

Indeed! So Katies Holmes being in the movie wasnt all bad now we something worth looking at in the sequel.....

Kate Bekinsale anyone??

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 03:30 PM

Indeed! So Katies Holmes being in the movie wasnt all bad now we something worth looking at in the sequel.....

Kate Bekinsale anyone??

No...:o

Natalie Portman anyone? Zooey Deschanel? Shannyn Sossamon? Rachel McAdams?

boywonder13

07-27-2006, 03:31 PM

yeah since Rachel is gone and Nolan lvoes TLH, and Dark Victory and Year One he will add Selina Kyle evn for a cameo, but I bet she will be more...

Octoberist

07-27-2006, 03:34 PM

Selina Kyle would be grand.

Bring on Shannyn Sossamon or Zoeey DeChannel

SHF

07-27-2006, 03:36 PM

No...:o

Natalie Portman anyone? Zooey Deschanel? Shannyn Sossamon? Rachel McAdams?

Yeh I agree with you on them but aren't they who you want for Harley?? I doubt she's even gonna be in a Batman movie but if she is wont be till the 3rd.

But I can def see Natalie Portman for Harley Quinn

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 03:38 PM

people kept on saying that Katie Holmes should of been cut and replaced by Harvery Dent. If that happened, this would be an utter sausage factory.

New wave boy, would have loved that!!!

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 03:40 PM

yeah since Rachel is gone and Nolan lvoes TLH, and Dark Victory and Year One he will add Selina Kyle evn for a cameo, but I bet she will be more...

Rachel is gone?

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 03:41 PM

Yeh I agree with you on them but aren't they who you want for Harley?? I doubt she's even gonna be in a Batman movie but if she is wont be till the 3rd.

But I can def see Natalie Portman for Harley Quinn

I like Zooey as Harley the most, with Portman and McAdams being on my list as well.

I like Portman and Sossamon for Catwoman, with McAdams also being on my list.

DA Harvey Dent

07-27-2006, 03:47 PM

As sex objects, yes. Anything else, NO.

7Hells

07-27-2006, 03:47 PM

I dont want any women thrown in that doesnt push Batmans character development.
So the bimbos on each arm are fine for me but unless the story calls for a leading lady I say stay away.

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 03:48 PM

Superheroes are a manly genre
hey....

Ronny Shade

07-27-2006, 03:49 PM

And lets turn the whole sequel into Brokeback Mountain 2, what you think?

Of course there should be women, some ppl cant live without them :D
Batman can

Batman can do anything

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 03:51 PM

As sex objects, yes. Anything else, NO.
Some of you guys need a reality check. Thinking of women as objects....:rolleyes:

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 03:52 PM

Some of you guys need a reality check. Thinking of women as objects....:rolleyes:

Disgusting, aint it?:( :o

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 03:52 PM

Some of you guys need a reality check. Thinking of women as objects....:rolleyes:

yeah guys, listen to what this thing has to say!!!!!

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 03:52 PM

Batman can

Batman can do anything

LOL!:up:

That is why people worship you Ronny.

Ronny Shade

07-27-2006, 03:53 PM

I've said it before and I will say it many more times.

If bruce/batman is going to have a love interest it has to end tragically. Happy endings are not in the bat-codex.

I am ALL for having love interests as long as they're done properly.

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 03:53 PM

yeah guys, listen to what this thing has to say!!!!!
you are an ass.

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 03:54 PM

Deschanel-HELL YES!
Portman and McAdams-Yes
Sossamon-HELL NO!

I'd like to see the women as long as they don't seem forced to be in the scene.

I added Sossamon to my list just because I knew you would find it and bash it :D

Atleast we will always have Zooey.:up:

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 03:55 PM

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 03:55 PM

Anyway, we do need a leading lady. If Batgirl is done right she could be very cool.

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 03:55 PM

you are an ass.

and you know you want ALL of it.....

Ronny Shade

07-27-2006, 03:56 PM

Thats what I liked about Hush, his paranoia as Batman prevented him from hooking up with Selina.
he couldve banged Talia in hush too if he wanted

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 03:58 PM

and you know you want ALL of it.....
lmao....I'm sorry you're joking right?

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 03:59 PM

he couldve banged Talia in hush too if he wanted

Thats Batman for you. He needs a purple batsuit, with a feather in his cowl.

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 04:00 PM

Anyway, we do need a leading lady. If Batgirl is done right she could be very cool.

I see Batgirl as a hard sale, it will be hard enough getting Robin in.

Now seeing Batgirl being used like Orical is something i would like.

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:01 PM

I really do hope they put Catwoman in one of the movies. Done right she could be a very interesting foe.

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 04:01 PM

lmao....I'm sorry you're joking right?

you'll find out tonight, in your dreams baby........:eek: :)

don't dig your nails too far into my back..... I like it rough, but not too rough

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 04:01 PM

I really do hope they put Catwoman in one of the movies. Done right she could be a very interesting foe.

Better yet, lover and foe.

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:02 PM

I see Batgirl as a hard sale, it will be hard enough getting Robin in.

Now seeing Batgirl being used like Orical is something i would like.
You mean using her brains rather than brawns?

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:03 PM

Better yet, lover and foe.
Yeah, I would love that. Without knowing.

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 04:04 PM

You mean using her brains rather than brawns?

Yup, I just dont see this Batman being one to use a lot of sidekicks in combat. I think Robin would be used more as a scout, and perhaps eventually true partner and Orical to be Batman's eyes.

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:06 PM

Yup, I just dont see this Batman being one to use a lot of sidekicks in combat. I think Robin would be used more as a scout, and perhaps eventually true partner and Orical to be Batman's eyes.
Should we ever get a nightwing movie?

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 04:08 PM

Should we ever get a nightwing movie?

Thats a big reason why I want Robin in the franchise.

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 04:09 PM

Yeah, I would love that. Without knowing.

we know what you love, and you KNOW when it's happening, don't chip your teeth again!!!

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:11 PM

we know what you love, and you KNOW when it's happening, don't chip your teeth again!!!
wtf?

StorminNorman

07-27-2006, 04:13 PM

Nick, dont scare her away :(

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 04:15 PM

wtf?

you know I;m just kidding around with ya......

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:16 PM

Nick, dont scare her away :(
It's okay. You seem like a cool guy, I can just talk to you instead.

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:16 PM

you know I;m just kidding around with ya......
You were? That's good...

Super_Ludacris

07-27-2006, 04:18 PM

Actually I have a theory about the love intrest in this film but in order for me to be sure, I need to check one thing that may sound unrelatable:

Ducard was an actual character in the comics and was seperate from Ra's correct?

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 04:22 PM

You were? That's good...

of course, I'm actually a pretty nice guy..... I just get a kick out of getting people worked up..... some people find it funny, others don't (part of the reason I won't be in any more AF catalogs)

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:24 PM

Exactly. I thought the same thing. He doesn't have to be a sidekick, but an aide, the way that Fox helped him with Batman's arsenal, he could scout around and Barbara can be like the Oracle version of herself. Of course I would love to see Robin and Batgirl but most people don'e want them, I at least want Richard(I hate when they call him Dick) and Barbara in the universe.
Maybe they should have them in the third one. This is still BB so Batman has just become a hero.

Super_Ludacris

07-27-2006, 04:25 PM

Yo one of you muther****ers better answer my question cause I think I have a theory about the women in the film but I gotta be sure...lol

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:31 PM

Yo one of you muther****ers better answer my question cause I think I have a theory about the women in the film but I gotta be sure...lol
lol....sorry I don't know. I've always been a SM fan. I just got into Batman.

Nightwing

07-27-2006, 04:40 PM

K I love BB ofcourse but I'd like the sequel to have 2 leading females roles in the film, otherwise it turns out to be a an all male cast.

It doesnt even have to be a love interest for Bruce Wayne, im thinking keep Katie Holmes and have her killed off and introduce another character.

I think alot of you would agree that it only seems right to intoduce Talia!!!

I would say Harley Quinn too but I think she shouldnt come untill Joker's been around for a while so maybe the 3rd movie.

Ironic you should mention that. The idea of not having a love interest, was only brought up depending IF Holmes didn't return. Instead for the sequel, it would only be a female lead. The Dawes character doesn't have to necessarily be killed, in order not to have her. All she has to do is leave Gotham on her own terms, for whatever the reason.

And yes. Harley should come in, if ever there is a third. Depending if Dr. Harleen Quinzel is used for the sequel before that transition. Either way, if Harley makes her debut onscreen, it's a must for her to call Joker "puddin" or "Mr. J," as depicted in BTAS.

Talia on the other hand, is another story. She could be in the sequel looking for her revenge on her father. While seeking the chance to pay a visit to Bruce as Batman, she ends up developing feelings for him. (As Bruce Wayne) Without actually knowing he was the last person to see Ra's, or who he REALLY is. It would be interesting, if done and taken correctly.

However, if infact Dawes doesn't return, then that would be a great chance of introducing Selina Kyle. Whether it would be toward the end, or Selina actually being the new love interest. But not Catwoman. She should be saved.

Ducard was an actual character in the comics and was seperate from Ra's correct?

Yes.

7Hells

07-27-2006, 04:44 PM

7Hells

07-27-2006, 04:47 PM

Batman you said yes to Ducard being a different character than Ra's?
I know he pretended to be a different guy to disguise that he was Ra's.
No? Am I getting my comic and movie mixed up here?

7Hells

07-27-2006, 04:47 PM

You're thinking of Batwoman. Batgirl is straight.
ah, thank you Majik :D

JokerNick

07-27-2006, 04:48 PM

You're thinking of Batwoman. Batgirl is straight.

both are BI in my dreams

Nightwing

07-27-2006, 04:48 PM

I believe Henri Ducard was Ra's.

And no to Batgirl. The only reason I think they may add Batgirl is because it was recently announced she is lesbian. Or was that another heroine? I think it was batgirl, cant remember.

No, that's the new Batwoman. As of now in the comics, Cassandra Cain isn't Batgirl anymore. And I'm not one bit pleased with this "new direction" she's taken. Or how she's being written.

Anyway, Batgirl shouldn't make an appearence in this franchise. Unless Nolan has plans of using her. However, I would'nt mind seeing Barbara as a young child.

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:51 PM

No, that's the new Batwoman. As of now in the comics, Cassandra Cain isn't Batgirl anymore. And I'm not one bit pleased with this "new direction" she's taken. Or how she's being written.

Anyway, Batgirl shouldn't make an appearence in this franchise. Unless Nolan has plans of using her. However, I would'nt mind seeing Barbara as a young child.
So wait....Barbara is straight right? If so they should use her. The movie is butch enough as it is....

Nightwing

07-27-2006, 04:52 PM

Batman you said yes to Ducard being a different character than Ra's?
I know he pretended to be a different guy to disguise that he was Ra's.
No? Am I getting my comic and movie mixed up here?

Ludacris asked if in the comics Ducard was seperate from Ra's. Yes, he is. In the comics Bruce met Ducard in Paris. In Begins, the character's name was a disguise for Ra's.

Nightwing

07-27-2006, 04:55 PM

So wait....Barbara is straight right? If so they should use her. The movie is butch enough as it is....

The new Batwoman, also known as Kate Kane, is bi sexual. Barbara in the comics has always been straight.

fangrl06

07-27-2006, 04:57 PM

The new Batwoman, also known as Kate Kane, is bi sexual. Barbara in the comics has always been straight.
Good. I want her in the movie.

7Hells

07-27-2006, 04:59 PM

Ludacris asked if in the comics Ducard was seperate from Ra's. Yes, he is. In the comics Bruce met Ducard in Paris. In Begins, the character's name was a disguise for Ra's.
Ya, he met him in paris and trained with him right? Ducard was a detective of sorts? Or is that just the way I remember him?
I think thats where I'm getting mixed up, the fact that they had the Ducard character train Wayne in the movie.
But Ra's was more like a supervillian in the comics right? lol
Just give me run down before my fanboy head explodes bat :p

Nightwing

07-27-2006, 05:07 PM

Ya, he met him in paris and trained with him right? Ducard was a detective of sorts? Or is that just the way I remember him?
I think thats where I'm getting mixed up, the fact that they had the Ducard character train Wayne in the movie.
But Ra's was more like a supervillian in the comics right? lol
Just give me run down before my fanboy head explodes bat :p

Ducard first appeared in Detective Comics #598. Bruce met him in Paris, and like in the movie, Ducard trained him. Also like in the film, this took place during Bruce's trip around the world. Ducard had keen detective skills and managed to pass what he knew to Bruce. He was also a formidable martial artist and was known for his hunting skills.

Much later in the comics, it was revealed that he was secretly working for a group of criminals.

batman7289

07-27-2006, 05:15 PM

give the guys somethin to look at while we wait for batman/bruce to do something cool.
NONONO they tried that already in batman and robin.
and that movie was the worst of all from the franchise

7Hells

07-27-2006, 05:25 PM

Thank you Batman :)
Only as a second to Zooey of course...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/sachem/zooey_deschanel.jpg

7Hells

07-27-2006, 05:45 PM

oh man, I just had a brainstorm moment.
Heres a Catwoman out of left field for everyone...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/sachem/zhang-ziyi-fhm-6.jpg
Ziyi Zhang, we already know she can kick ass :D

Super_Ludacris

07-27-2006, 05:51 PM

7Hells

07-27-2006, 06:15 PM

k, I have an idea of what's gonna happen with the girl in the sequel but since I'm too tired to explain I'll post about it tommorrow when I have time

But I think it could work....the thread is coming tomorrow when I got time
Cool, it will be nice to have an interesting new thread.
No one seems to like mine :(
I guess I should have added b00bies in the title :D

heypapajinx

07-30-2006, 04:52 AM

i think the only women that should be in Batman movies are the ones who are going to kick his bat loving ass!!
we wouldn't want to make his boy-child ward jealous, now would we? and then there's Alfreds feelings to consider.

MUGSY

07-30-2006, 05:38 AM

Superheroes are a manly genre

Ha thats funny

Sharkboy

07-30-2006, 09:52 AM

i wanna see a patrick bateman style threesome with bruce and two supermodels, apparantly so does Bale. Since it is pg-13 i guess they could settle for bruce waking up with these two hotties in bed with him, thats all the women roles you need for brucie, the love stories should be for gordon and dent/ cast sarah essen and gilda dent!

7Hells

07-30-2006, 03:09 PM

If they do toss in a new woman there need to be more kissing scenes.
Bale kissing scenes are very scarce :(

Flame on!

07-30-2006, 03:13 PM

people kept on saying that Katie Holmes should of been cut and replaced by Harvery Dent. If that happened, this would be an utter sausage factory.
To you.

It would've been such a better film if it had of been Dent.

Sharkboy

07-30-2006, 03:40 PM

^katie holmes role felt so much like it shouldnt been havey dent. just replace her with liev schrieber, and minus the kissing, it would been a better than perfect movie......ah well i guess we just have to settle for a perfect movie.

Karea07

07-30-2006, 03:46 PM

not really more women... just a really good strong female character. get kid of katie and bring in a more interesting girl.

Two-Face

07-30-2006, 03:47 PM

explode7

07-30-2006, 03:49 PM

They will never get rid of katie seeing as how she is married to Tom now she's gonna be a big BO draw. WB will be idiots to let Nolan get rid of her.

Nightwing

07-30-2006, 04:07 PM

It does not bother me, if Nolan has a love-interest for Bruce/Batman and long as Bruce does NOT tell the woman he meets "I'm Batman" she don't need to know his crimefighting life expect that he's rich billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne.

Agreed. We don't need an exact copy of B89 where he wanted to reveal himself to Vicki. Before Joker came ringing at her door. From a certain degree, the only reason I wouldn't mind Holmes coming back was for continuities sake. Her role in Begins wasn't all that big, and toward the end she was written as if she almost had no future in the franchise. But if Nolan want's her to return, we might as well see what he has in store for the character.

And again, I wouldn't mind if SELINA KYLE was introduced in the sequel. I like the idea of her making her appearence toward the end. Saving Catwoman for bigger exposure in the third.

Two-Face

07-30-2006, 04:41 PM

Agreed. We don't need an exact copy of B89 where he wanted to reveal himself to Vicki. Before Joker came ringing at her door. From a certain degree, the only reason I wouldn't mind Holmes coming back was for continuities sake. Her role in Begins wasn't all that big, and toward the end she was written as if she almost had no future in the franchise. But if Nolan want's her to return, we might as well see what he has in store for the character.

And again, I wouldn't mind if SELINA KYLE was introduced in the sequel. I like the idea of her making her appearence toward the end. Saving Catwoman for bigger exposure in the third.

I agree with you this, Bruce tells Vicki who really he is then in BR he tells Selina and actually would give up being Batman if Selina agreed to go with him then in BF he tells Chase and would gave up being Dark Knight again but In B&R he does not tell Julie that he's Batman.

Rachel I don't want her in Batman 2, didn't bother me sdo if she returns fine by me if she does not get too much screentime. I love Selina and she'sd one of the great character to tell in Batman franchise.

explode7

07-30-2006, 04:43 PM

Isn't Rachel supposed to be a villain??? The Phantasm???

Two-Face

07-30-2006, 04:45 PM

Isn't Rachel supposed to be a villain??? The Phantasm???

NO that's Andrea Boument from MOTP.

Cinemaman

07-31-2006, 08:36 AM

Also, I dont want Bruce to tell who he really is to his new girlfriend (if Holmes doesn't come back).

I just want her to guess that he is Batman.

Nightwing

07-31-2006, 02:24 PM

I agree with you this, Bruce tells Vicki who really he is then in BR he tells Selina and actually would give up being Batman if Selina agreed to go with him then in BF he tells Chase and would gave up being Dark Knight again but In B&R he does not tell Julie that he's Batman.

Rachel I don't want her in Batman 2, didn't bother me sdo if she returns fine by me if she does not get too much screentime. I love Selina and she'sd one of the great character to tell in Batman franchise.

Like I said before. The only reason I'd like to see Rachel return, is for continuity. I wouldn't like it if they brought in someone new, without a proper explanation of her why she isn't there to begin with. And just because she may return, doesn't necessarily mean she HAS to be killed off like so many want to see happen. Even if the idea of her getting killed at the hands of Joker, could be dramatic, and even more grief on Bruce's part. In fact, I love the idea of her leaving Gotham on her own terms. It could work for her appearence again in the sequel, or if she doesn't return at all.

Either way, seeing Selina introduced in this franchise, and at the helm of Nolan, we can be sure he would do the character justice. Whether or not we just see Selina or both Selina and Catwoman.