View Full Version : Terrence Howard Officially Cast As "James Rhodes"
Red X
08-01-2006, 09:05 AM
Terrence Howard to Star in Iron Man?
Source: Ain't-It-Cool-News (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=24037)
August 1, 2006
Ain't-It-Cool-News (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=24037) has confirmed that "Hustle & Flow" star Terrence Howard (http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=4603#) has been offered a role in director Jon Favreau's (http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=4603#) Iron Man:
So, that's the word. Terrence Howard has been offered the role of James Rhodes in the IRON MAN film (http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=4603#). No guarantee he'll take it, but I think Howard is one of the most interesting actors working in the business today and his presence in the film will only make it better. Especially if we get to see Howard don a super suit in this film (or sequels) and kick some ass.
We'll have to see how this one turns out. Stay tuned
http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=4603
I for one really like this idea, Howard is an great actor.
Ironman24
08-01-2006, 09:07 AM
I like it, Terrence is a very good actor and would be a excellent choice to play Jim Rhodes.
RedIsNotBlue
08-01-2006, 09:12 AM
http://www.nt2099.com/comics/milestones/art/cbm33b.jpg
Definitely see Terrence Howard there.
Alpha and Omega
08-01-2006, 09:38 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of a Dennis Haysbert, but I can definitely see Terrence Howard as JR. Not bad casting imo. :up:
Retroman
08-01-2006, 09:51 AM
Good actor:up: I hope he signs on.:)
Mr. Credible
08-01-2006, 10:18 AM
i haven't seen hustle n' flow, but i understand he was great in it.
WildCard
08-01-2006, 11:27 AM
He's a fantastic actor. In both 'Hustle & Flow' and 'Crash' he showed great acting talent.
Howard being offered this role means a couple of thing. First of all the studio is confident enough in the project to offer this role to an actor who just got nominated for an Oscar. It also means that, more than likely, Rhodes will have a decent sized role as oppose to a bit cameo part.
If, and thats a decent sized if, he does exept the role it also means acouple of things. The script is good, I dont see him doing a movie with a crappy script just as his career is exploding. It also means that the movie will have that 'Academy Award Nominated' push at the box-office.
Good news all around.
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 12:01 PM
Good now maybe they'll get Mark Wahlberg for Stark and I'll be happy as hell. Howard and Wahl are buds so great news. Rhodes should have a very deep role in this pic.
^ I know many disagree with my choice for Stark so be easy on me. ;)
Son Of Logan
08-01-2006, 12:13 PM
Great news. I didn't see this coming. :up:
batman7289
08-01-2006, 12:27 PM
i think howard is a good pick
batman7289
08-01-2006, 12:27 PM
Great news. I didn't see this coming. :up:
SON OF LOGAN: i love ur avatar
Cinemaman
08-01-2006, 12:30 PM
He wouldn't be bad choice :up:
Ironman24
08-01-2006, 12:48 PM
He's a very good actor, and if he takes the part, it opens up a possible spin-off franschise as War Machine.
Hunter Rider
08-01-2006, 12:52 PM
He's quality,I'll be very pleased if he takes the role:up:
Casius--J
08-01-2006, 12:59 PM
I think Howard is a great actor but im not too sure about him in the role as rhodes. I dunno i pictured someone else, older and darker skinned. But looks aint all important im positive he'll bring the character to life very well.
Eddie Dean
08-01-2006, 12:59 PM
This should be very cool, if he takes the role.
TheVileOne
08-01-2006, 01:10 PM
Since's AICN it's all BS and none of it can be taken into account. Or as some would say :o .
Spider-Fan
08-01-2006, 01:29 PM
Good now maybe they'll get Mark Wahlberg for Stark and I'll be happy as hell. Howard and Wahl are buds so great news. Rhodes should have a very deep role in this pic.
^ I know many disagree with my choice for Stark so be easy on me. ;)
Mark Whalberg for Stark? Blah, that is a bad choice.
deathshead2
08-01-2006, 01:41 PM
I don't see him being Rhodes but he could make it work he is a good actor.
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 01:42 PM
Mark Whalberg for Stark? Blah, that is a bad choice.
Hey it's just my personal favorite. To each his own. Favreau will pick the right man. Hopefully it's not some bucktoothed geek with internet inferiority issues flexing his chicken chest on myspace begging to be an extra. LMAO
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 01:44 PM
I don't see him being Rhodes but he could make it work he is a good actor.
Howard is an acceptable choice. Way better than the 50 cent choice I've seen floating around. I honestly don't have a preference for this role but if they want Howard it must fit the script right.
Son Of Logan
08-01-2006, 02:15 PM
SON OF LOGAN: i love ur avatar
Thanks dude. :up:
Dr.Dude
08-01-2006, 02:20 PM
If this is true, all I can say is terrific casting. While Howard doesn't really have the Rhodes' look, he more than makes up for it with great acting ability.
Hopefully this is true.... even though it is on AICN.... :o
Son Of Logan
08-01-2006, 02:22 PM
If this is true, all I can say is terrific casting. While Howard doesn't really have the Rhodes' look, he more than makes up for it with great acting ability.
Hopefully this is true.... even though it is on AICN.... :o
I agree with every word you said.
ReptileOrion
08-01-2006, 02:22 PM
Howard is a great choice to play James Rhodes. I hope he accepts the part. Howard has been in the business a while I'm glad he is finally gaining some popularity.
The Guardian
08-01-2006, 02:26 PM
GREAT NEWS, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET A WAR MACHINE CAMEO.:D:up: :up:
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 02:28 PM
I think Fav's already said War Machine won't be in this one but likely part 2.
deathshead2
08-01-2006, 02:29 PM
GREAT NEWS, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET A WAR MACHINE CAMEO.:D:up: :up:In it I hope we see the armor but don't let him use it yet. It could destroy the cool factor and greatness of iron man. But in iron man 2 let war machine be in it. Then have a spin off.
tamron
08-01-2006, 02:29 PM
I like Terrence Howard, but he just doesn't fit Rhodey to me. He's not 'hard' enough. I just can't put it any other way. Rhodey's a former Marine, he's rough and tumble, he gets his hands dirty. Even in the suit, he tends to rely on the physical attributes more so than tech. Terrence doesn't strike me as that, at all. He seems more of a pretty boy than Rhodey should be. He's a good actor, but he just doesn't fit Rhodey.
The Guardian
08-01-2006, 02:32 PM
:confused:
The Guardian
08-01-2006, 02:36 PM
I think Fav's already said War Machine won't be in this one but likely part 2.
A MAN CAN DREAM CAN'T HE?:D
Substance D
08-01-2006, 02:48 PM
I like Terrence Howard, but he just doesn't fit Rhodey to me. He's not 'hard' enough. I just can't put it any other way. Rhodey's a former Marine, he's rough and tumble, he gets his hands dirty. Even in the suit, he tends to rely on the physical attributes more so than tech. Terrence doesn't strike me as that, at all. He seems more of a pretty boy than Rhodey should be. He's a good actor, but he just doesn't fit Rhodey.
I agree. He looks too soft.
Akumazero
08-01-2006, 02:50 PM
Well Mr. Howard is a very nice but unexpected choice for JR.
...but i see someone like Mr. Fishburn or Micheal Clark Duncan or Vin(... nevermind!!!...forget the last name) being a better fit for JR, IMO
hippie_hunter
08-01-2006, 02:50 PM
This gives me hope that they'll put the Falcon in a Captain America film
Warhammer
08-01-2006, 03:05 PM
Terrence Howrad is a great choice.
A big surge of Academy Nominated actors are getting big budget roles recently.
americanguy96
08-01-2006, 03:21 PM
He is such a great actor, and would be a welcome addition to this film. He is a rising actor, and I think people would be interested to see him in this type of film, because he certianly brings a degree of class to every film he is in. Ok, I know that doesn't really make sense, but yes, he is an excellent choice.
kedrell
08-01-2006, 03:48 PM
I like this choice. I hope he takes it.
tdeverea
08-01-2006, 04:02 PM
How about this??? I know some will faint at the mere thought of it... Howard as Starks! Someone will b*tch and say "This belongs in another thread."
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b22/rush19801/terrence_as_tony.jpg
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 04:06 PM
Hell no. Howabout Jet Li as Spiderman?
tdeverea
08-01-2006, 04:07 PM
Hell no. Howabout Jet Li as Spiderman?
Dumb suggestion. I know what you're getting at... not a good comparison.
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 04:11 PM
Howard Stark should be the Howard Stark we know from the comics. A racial issue should never even be brought up or suggested. I wouldn't mind seeing him as Diamondback in a Luke Cage film as suggested by Singleton and there's nothing wrong with my comparison even though it was to prove a point it's just as valid as yours. Trying to be creative by changing Iron Man's ethnicity is just as much an insult to fans as if Luke Cage were to be portrayed by Jason Statham.
ObakeTora
08-01-2006, 04:21 PM
If Terrence Howard is being cast I hope he gets to PWN a stewardess.:mad: (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/howards%20flight%20nightmare%20as%20stewardess%20a ccuses%20him%20of%20assault)
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 04:26 PM
I like Terrence and have enjoyed most of his work. He'd be a great Rhodes.
tdeverea
08-01-2006, 04:29 PM
Howard Stark should be the Howard Stark we know from the comics. A racial issue should never even be brought up or suggested. I wouldn't mind seeing him as Diamondback in a Luke Cage film as suggested by Singleton and there's nothing wrong with my comparison even though it was to prove a point it's just as valid as yours. Trying to be creative by changing Iron Man's ethnicity is just as much an insult to fans as if Luke Cage were to be portrayed by Jason Statham.
It's not an insult to fans. See, it's difficult to replace characters if the original character is an archetype. Luke Cage was a black man from the ghetto, had an afro, etc... can't replace him with a white guy and it not seem silly. However, characters like Starks are wide open. Being a genius billionaire is not an archetype for a white guy... It may seem far-fetched (to you) for a Black man to be in that position, but it is feasible.
As a matter of fact, most of Marvel's caucasian heroes can be interchanged with Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. becaused they are written so universally. Their ethnic characters tend to be very specific. The exception here is Jim Rhodes - he could actually be a white guy because he wasn't written as a jive-talking, hoodlum... but you can't replace a character like Black Panther with a White guy because his ethnicity IS his story. Do you understand where I'm coming from?
By the way, Spider Man could've been an Asian kid, Black kid, Native American, Hispanic... it's not like his name was the Anglo-Spider...
That was kind of a long rant... hope it made sense.
B1g Jerm
08-01-2006, 04:35 PM
Terrance Howard sucks dunky .................................................. but he's one hell of an actor
Hiruu
08-01-2006, 05:01 PM
Good Actor, no doubt about that, and that probably means it's not going to be an unknown for Ton Stark, as some had bantered about. Can't have JR outshining Tony in the first film.
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 06:40 PM
It's not an insult to fans. See, it's difficult to replace characters if the original character is an archetype. Luke Cage was a black man from the ghetto, had an afro, etc... can't replace him with a white guy and it not seem silly. However, characters like Starks are wide open. Being a genius billionaire is not an archetype for a white guy... It may seem far-fetched (to you) for a Black man to be in that position, but it is feasible.
As a matter of fact, most of Marvel's caucasian heroes can be interchanged with Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. becaused they are written so universally. Their ethnic characters tend to be very specific. The exception here is Jim Rhodes - he could actually be a white guy because he wasn't written as a jive-talking, hoodlum... but you can't replace a character like Black Panther with a White guy because his ethnicity IS his story. Do you understand where I'm coming from?
By the way, Spider Man could've been an Asian kid, Black kid, Native American, Hispanic... it's not like his name was the Anglo-Spider...
That was kind of a long rant... hope it made sense.
You're using color with Luke Cage as in issue but not with Stark, and most of Marvel's hero's can't be just interchanged. Stark has a specific look to his character and as reverse scnerio to your argument he's white, he's not from the ghetto, and he has no afro. People grow up with these characters some have known these characters for 60,50,40,30,20 years, etc...Of course you have to change some aspects of the character so he/she fits in today's time but that's where it should stop. I would find it real hard to believe they could not find an actor that looks close enough to the character we all know and have enjoyed for many years. Turning Stark into a black man would just cause waves and then people would call the ones against it racists and on we go. Like the old rumors of Marlan Wayans playing Robin in the Batman films. Just because some people think there aren't enough of one race in superhero films doesn't mean we should shake up the industry and start turning 10-15% of the characters into blacks for affirmative action. It's just looking for problems IMO. I'm sure Howard could portray a similar character but you don't mess with history like that.
Iron Man™
08-01-2006, 07:37 PM
**** yes, Howard for Rhodes! Take it!! He'd own. :up:
Chuck_the_bear
08-01-2006, 08:16 PM
if he starts rappin im leaving lol
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 08:19 PM
If there's any rap in this movie I'm selling all my shares and moving them all into Hasbro.
Ironfan72
08-01-2006, 09:28 PM
If its true, Terrence is a talented actor that would make a very good Jim Rhodes, unfortunatly its just a rumor right now, have to wait and see.
Advanced Dark
08-01-2006, 09:33 PM
I don't think it's a rumor at all. I think it's a fact that he's been offered the role. While I don't like AICN's opinions on many issues when they do say something is a fact or confirmed...they talked to Marvel or Paramount, or Favreau about it for sure. So as far as I'm concerned he's been offered the role. I wonder if they had discussions about it and made the offer or if they just sent an offer to his agent and they haven't even talked yet?
Hunter Rider
08-01-2006, 09:35 PM
I don't think it's a rumor at all. I think it's a fact that he's been offered the role. While I don't like AICN's opinions on many issues when they do say something is a fact or confirmed...they talked to Marvel or Paramount, or Favreau about it for sure. So as far as I'm concerned he's been offered the role. I wonder if they had discussions about it and made the offer or if they just sent an offer to his agent and they haven't even talked yet?
Yeah it's probably the same as Ledger's anouncement for Joker,the deal is on the table Howard just has to decide if he wants it
The Guard
08-01-2006, 09:40 PM
There are probably better choices for Jim Rhodes, but Howard is a fantastic actor, and could work, depending on how Rhodes is written.
Advanced Dark
08-02-2006, 01:20 AM
CinemanBlend on this whole thing:
<H1>Favreau Does Whatever An Iron Can
By Darren Bermingham: 2006-08-01
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/3091/3091.jpg John Favreau has been one of the more pro-active film (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Does-Whatever-An-Iron-Can-3091.html#) maker's to make use of his blog (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=42500584) and have open dialogue between himself and those interested in his project. He's even gone so far as to start an Iron Man MySpace Group (http://groups.myspace.com/ironmanmovie) where people can submit their casting suggestions and general concerns. It's refreshing to see someone take such a hardcore grassroots approach and be so in touch with his target audience. I'm sure it's not easy listening to fanboys telling you how to make your movie (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Does-Whatever-An-Iron-Can-3091.html#) but it's a great way to feel out ideas.
Combine this with his panel appearance at Comic-Con and Iron Man has been making some moves on the production front.
In this interview (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=24012) with Ain't It Cool News, Favreau explains a couple of things including as we reported earlier (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Announces-Iron-Man-s-Nemesis-3031.html), Mandarin being in line for the villain. When pressed on his blog about re-inventing the Mandarin he had this to say: "We live in a different society than when the Mandarin was originally conceived. We in no way want to prepetuate any ridiculous stereotypes. The aspect of the Mandarin that is appealing to us is his mysterious and formidible nature. He is the most powerful and definitive of the Iron Man villians. He also allows us to weave in other fan pleasing "personalities" as he is a mastermind and not simply a brutish thug. The Mandarin presents the best opportuntity to write a complex and colorful character. It has always been my feeling that the villian is the most fun character to play, write for, and watch. If we create a great character, a great actor (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Does-Whatever-An-Iron-Can-3091.html#) will hopefully follow. These are our goals.
I happen to think that any portrayal of this villian similar to the early books would be comical at best and offensive at worst. Neither result is what we are going for. I hope to update the paradigm and create a character who is a villian because of what he does, not where he's from or what he looks like."
In addition to the Mandarin, the rumour mill now grinds out that James Rhodes A.K.A. "War Machine" may also be a factor in the movie. When AICN mentioned War Machine Fav responded by saying: "...he's not even a bad guy, really. He's kind of his friend, Rhodes, you know? And we definitely want to explore that eventually..." AICN then goes on to say that the part has already been offered to Hustle and Flow (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Does-Whatever-An-Iron-Can-3091.html#) star Terrence Howard (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Does-Whatever-An-Iron-Can-3091.html#).
The Rhodes character is a long-time Stark confidant who at one point temporarily took over the Iron Man role as Stark lost his company and lapsed into alcoholism. Upon Stark's return, they built Rhodes new armour and he became War Machine.
And with regard to that rumour, which just won't seem to go away, Favreau had this to say on his blog: "I've never even met Tom Cruise (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Does-Whatever-An-Iron-Can-3091.html#), though I do think he is a great actor. He doesn't seem to fit with what Marvel is looking for at this time, but you never know what will happen. The rumor is false as far as I know..." I think I'd settle for Paul Reubens at this stage if it meant Cruise went away!
Other tidbits include the production design, and the armour specifically: "Yeah, Red and Gold. We're going to start with the Grey and then we're going with the Red and Gold. I think we're going to go circular chest piece and we're definitely inspired by the Adi Granov stuff and he's actually working on the suit design with us."
The movie will apparently be more Stark than Iron Man, and will also see him inherit his millions from the beginning, thus minimizing any required character development prior to his military service. Speaking of which, as it can be a rather sensetive topic: "I think a balance needs to be struck between reality and comic (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Does-Whatever-An-Iron-Can-3091.html#) book fantasy. The books were always non-specific while alluding to definitive aspects of our collective cultural subconscious. Stark was visiting a "non-specific Asian/American conflict" in the mid-sixties. This might be the way to go for the movie as well."
Seems like he's given this a lot of thought. I for one can't think of any director (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Favreau-Does-Whatever-An-Iron-Can-3091.html#) I'd prefer to take on this project. He's a fan's director.
</H1>
hippie_hunter
08-02-2006, 01:30 AM
If War Machine appears in Iron Man 2 (which better be called the Invincible Iron Man, just like Hulk 2 is the Incredible Hulk, hell in my opinion Spider-Man 2 should have been the Amazing Spider-Man and X-2: X-Men United should have been the Uncanny X-Men) he should look like a combination of his modern armor:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fa/Warm11.jpg/388px-Warm11.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Im283.jpg
and his current O*N*E armor:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/WMSentinelTrainer.png/269px-WMSentinelTrainer.png
Use the traditional grey color scheme, the shoulder cannons, and other weapons but use the basic shape of the current O*N*E armor
deathshead2
08-02-2006, 01:32 AM
If War Machine appears in Iron Man 2 (which better be called the Invincible Iron Man, just like Hulk 2 is the Incredible Hulk, hell in my opinion Spider-Man 2 should have been the Amazing Spider-Man and X-2: X-Men United should have been the Uncanny X-Men) he should look like a combination of his modern armor:
and his current O*N*E armor:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/WMSentinelTrainer.png/269px-WMSentinelTrainer.png
Use the traditional grey color scheme and the shoulder cannons but use the basic shape of the current O*N*E armorDang his new armor sucks I want his old grey one back.:down
hippie_hunter
08-02-2006, 01:46 AM
Dang his new armor sucks I want his old grey one back.:down
His new armor sucks because the color scheme sucks ass (using the color scheme of the Sentinels instead of using the traditional grey scheme) and lacks the kick ass shoulder cannons that made War Machine's armor so awesome.
Like I said combine the two and it would be awesome!
Hell, we need an artist who can do that to show how kick ass it would be!
kedrell
08-02-2006, 03:24 AM
^I'm sure Adi Granov would have a few good ideas about the War Machine armor as well.
Batman1939
08-02-2006, 03:35 AM
Awesome news!
Uncanny
08-02-2006, 08:29 AM
James Rhodes actor should be more darker skin like he was in the comics. I do not think Terrence Howard looks like James Rhodes at all.
Howard is an acceptable choice. Way better than the 50 cent choice I've seen floating around.
50 Cent is a choice that's been floating around? ROTFL!
"Yo Tony, we gunna get some ho's up in this beeyoth, aite?"
COME ON !
08-02-2006, 10:25 AM
50 Cent is a choice that's been floating around? ROTFL!
"Yo Tony, we gunna get some ho's up in this beeyoth, aite?"
Ain't that a bit racialist ?
James"007"Bond
08-02-2006, 10:33 AM
I think Howard would make a great JR purely because of his acting skills. His skin tone shouldn't be an issue as long as he's black. However, to his favour he has a good build too and I'm sure Howard will definately take on the role. Its an opportunity too good to pass up.
About 5 years ago many actors didn't want to be involved with comic bok movies, now many are all clammering to get into 1 especially tghe big name comic book movies. Comics wether people like it or not have to realise that comics if not will eventually become 20th century modern mythology and these movies based on the mythology is serious money making business.
Hypestyle
08-02-2006, 10:45 AM
....now let's talk about that Ghostface Killah cameo in the bar scene... :D
Advanced Dark
08-02-2006, 11:09 AM
Ain't that a bit racialist ?
No it's exactly how that idiot 50 cent talks. By you saying that is racist is giving me the impression that you think all people of that race talk that way. Therefore you are profiling. See how I spun that one around. LOL ;)
COME ON !
08-02-2006, 11:14 AM
No it's exactly how that idiot 50 cent talks. By you saying that is racist is giving me the impression that you think all people of that race talk that way. Therefore you are profiling. See how I spun that one around. LOL ;)
Pulled the ol' switcharoo, eh ?:D
Btw, that comment I made was an Ali G reference;)
Advanced Dark
08-02-2006, 11:15 AM
Strategery
COME ON !
08-02-2006, 11:37 AM
Yup
Triadkd
08-02-2006, 11:38 AM
Why is it that whenever a black man is rumored to play a white superhero, the same **** happens. People make lame ass jokes about rappers and say things like dustin hoffman for black panther. The reason most black superheroes cant be played by whites is that there race and charachter are intertwined. Anyone can be a young science geek from queens, but not everyone can be the ruler of an african nation.
hippie_hunter
08-02-2006, 11:45 AM
Why is it that whenever a black man is rumored to play a white superhero, the same **** happens. People make lame ass jokes about rappers and say things like dustin hoffman for black panther. The reason most black superheroes cant be played by whites is that there race and charachter are intertwined. Anyone can be a young science geek from queens, but not everyone can be the ruler of an african nation.
When has a black character played a white superhero? There have been times where they switched races on other characters in movies such as Harvey Dent in Batman, the Kingpin in Daredevil, and Terry Fitzgerald (who switched from black to white), but never the main superhero.
James"007"Bond
08-02-2006, 02:19 PM
When has a black character played a white superhero? There have been times where they switched races on other characters in movies such as Harvey Dent in Batman, the Kingpin in Daredevil, and Terry Fitzgerald (who switched from black to white), but never the main superhero.
He's talking about when there are casting debates such as Nick fury, in which the likes of Sam Jackson and Bruce Willis' names have been thrown around but I suppose, one cant say much with this one because fury, a lead character in his own right is a black man in the UU.....but I'm sure you get the picture of what dude is saying.
Kaboom
08-02-2006, 02:53 PM
how did tihs becomne a black/wihte thing? i suggest returning to the issue of Terrence Howard as War Machine. A-1 if you ask me, and shoulder cannons all the way!
CaptainStacy
08-02-2006, 05:47 PM
He seems like a great choice to ME. Glad he's on board.
Cant wait to see the rest of the cast!
ISHMAEL
08-02-2006, 07:18 PM
:up: :up: good casting IMO since hes really blowing up
ObakeTora
08-03-2006, 02:18 AM
If there's any rap in this movie I'm selling all my shares and moving them all into Hasbro.
Oh God.......
Terrence isnt a rapper.
TNC9852002
08-03-2006, 04:04 AM
Terrence, I think, has the balls, the chops, the support, and the confidence to carry a role like this very well.
Sure, we all know about his performance in Crash and Hustle and Flow, but he also had memorable little bit parts in Four Brothers, Their Eyes Were Watching God, Lackawanna Blues, and Ray..
I hope the speculated role DOES turn out to be Rhodes and that Howard WILL have the time to do it. He's a pretty busy guy now..
-TNC
ObakeTora
08-03-2006, 05:09 AM
and lets not forget Dead Presidents.
terry78
08-03-2006, 12:22 PM
I'm not sure what people want exactly when they go against Howard taking the role. You want someone blacker, you want someone with more street cred, etc. So long as the persona fits, it's all that matters. Howard can be a chameleon when he wants to be, even though his last few roles have been pretty much the hardcore villain/heavy.
Advanced Dark
08-03-2006, 12:52 PM
I'm cool w/Howard as Rhodes. There's probably a better choice out there somewhere as far as looks, and maybe someone better in character...but he's good enough. If he doesn't get the role then they'll find someone else.
tamron
08-03-2006, 01:17 PM
I want someone a little 'harder' than Terrence Howard.
What makes the dynamic work between Tony and Jim in my opinion is that they play off each other. One's weakness is covered by the other, as it their strength. Rhodey is a former Marine, a physical, street smart guy. Tony is the highly intelligent, rich, suave playboy. Howard has never played a role like Rhodey as he has been depicted in the comics. In fact, as some have mentioned, he could actually play Tony if we were colorblind casting.
That to me say that either their dynamic will be altered in the film (which isn't a good thing, IMHO) or that Howard, being a 'chameleon' with bulk up a little to fit the role, which I would respect immensely were he to show that kind of dedication to the role, but I honestly doubt that.
terry78
08-03-2006, 02:00 PM
We still don't know who they're getting for Stark himself, as he could be somewhat of a "soft type" actor as well. Tony Stark isn't a big machismo type guy, he's a wealthy businessman who, while admired by people, isn't exactly seen as a rough and tumble joe sixpack type either.
Son Of Logan
08-03-2006, 03:30 PM
Terrence, I think, has the balls, the chops, the support, and the confidence to carry a role like this very well.
Sure, we all know about his performance in Crash and Hustle and Flow, but he also had memorable little bit parts in Four Brothers, Their Eyes Were Watching God, Lackawanna Blues, and Ray..
I hope the speculated role DOES turn out to be Rhodes and that Howard WILL have the time to do it. He's a pretty busy guy now..
-TNC
Don't forget Dead Presidents and Sparks. :up:
The Apatow Crew
08-03-2006, 04:59 PM
i like Terrence so hopefully he takes the prt. i thought he was excellent in Hustle & Flow and Crash plus i also liked him in Four Brothers.
Uncanny
08-03-2006, 11:05 PM
I want someone a little 'harder' than Terrence Howard.
What makes the dynamic work between Tony and Jim in my opinion is that they play off each other. One's weakness is covered by the other, as it their strength. Rhodey is a former Marine, a physical, street smart guy. Tony is the highly intelligent, rich, suave playboy.
:up:
Terrence Howard does not look manly enough for the part.
There is nothing wrong with a more darker skin, black superhero that looks more like the comic version. Even if Terrence Howard was darker, he still does not look anything like James Rhodes. I have movies like "Crash" "Player Club" and others with him in it. I have nothing against Terrence, I just do not think he is the right man for the job. I hope they get some other guy for James Rhodes.
Advanced Dark
08-04-2006, 12:14 AM
^ Todd Bridges
The Apatow Crew
08-04-2006, 12:17 AM
^^^^^ Mr.T instead.:up:
Advanced Dark
08-04-2006, 12:20 AM
Beetlejuice from Howard Stern for RHODEs!
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/miserygarden/movies/beetle1.jpg
Yellow Cyclone
08-04-2006, 02:55 AM
:up:
Terrence Howard does not look manly enough for the part.
There is nothing wrong with a more darker skin, black superhero that looks more like the comic version. Even if Terrence Howard was darker, he still does not look anything like James Rhodes. I have movies like "Crash" "Player Club" and others with him in it. I have nothing against Terrence, I just do not think he is the right man for the job. I hope they get some other guy for James Rhodes.
:up: with you and tamron
terry78
08-04-2006, 09:31 AM
i like Terrence so hopefully he takes the prt. i thought he was excellent in Hustle & Flow and Crash plus i also liked him in Four Brothers.
He was never in Four Brothers. I knew ya'll thought we all look alike. :o :p
Advanced Dark
08-04-2006, 11:40 AM
Yes he was in 4 brothers. Lt. Green.
The Apatow Crew
08-04-2006, 02:35 PM
Yes he was in 4 brothers. Lt. Green.Correct.
terry78
08-04-2006, 05:04 PM
^Fine, you got me. My credibility is shot. :o
Advanced Dark
08-04-2006, 09:02 PM
It wasn't until you posted that red emoticon. :(
TNC9852002
08-05-2006, 03:39 AM
Anymore Rhodes casting choices?
I think, whoever plays Rhodes, needs to have a good reputation behind him, like many other secondary characters in comic book films...
Some of my alternate choices:
-Mekhi Phifer
-Isiah Washington
-Michael Beach
-Blair Underwood
-Henry Simmons
-TNC
CaptainCanada
08-05-2006, 03:03 PM
Michael Dorn. He's got plenty of experience playing strong men-of-action, and an awesome, deep voice.
Son Of Logan
08-07-2006, 09:59 AM
Michael Dorn. He's got plenty of experience playing strong men-of-action, and an awesome, deep voice.
I'd be nice to see him get some work.
terry78
08-07-2006, 10:12 AM
^He does get work, albeit voiceover.
Jalex
08-07-2006, 12:52 PM
Since's AICN it's all BS and none of it can be taken into account. Or as some would say :o .They were the first to scoop the revelation scene that Jason was Superman's son in SR.
Kaboom
08-07-2006, 11:00 PM
Michael Dorn. He's got plenty of experience playing strong men-of-action, and an awesome, deep voice.
seems a bit old. but that voice rocks!
TNC9852002
08-07-2006, 11:17 PM
ignore
-TNC
_Qwerty_
08-08-2006, 12:02 PM
Terrence Howard doesn't look intense enough. His eyes are too weak.
Balian
08-09-2006, 01:57 PM
Howard's a great actor, I'd be happy if he's going to be War Machine.
Thinking about it, he'd make a good Tony Stark too.
lordofthenerds
08-17-2006, 06:49 PM
http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=4652
Looks like he's in talks at least.
Advanced Dark
08-17-2006, 07:26 PM
^ He'll take it.
TrailerCues
08-17-2006, 07:56 PM
Now they just need the Invasion guy for Iron man
Advanced Dark
08-17-2006, 08:01 PM
? ^ ?
TrailerCues
08-17-2006, 08:08 PM
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/16/133535/IM.jpg
COME ON !
08-17-2006, 08:13 PM
Is that Eddie Cibrian ? He did great work on Sunset Beach.....:up:
TrailerCues
08-17-2006, 08:15 PM
Is that Eddie Cibrian ?
Yep I never saw that but I liked what he did with Invasion
Ironfan72
08-17-2006, 09:47 PM
Its cool there talking casting, I like Terrence, if he takes the role, he'll be a good Jim Rhodes.
Now, all we need is news about casting for Tony Stark.
Chris.
08-17-2006, 11:04 PM
Yep I never saw that but I liked what he did with Invasion
Hahahaha, that guy cannot act at all.
His work in Invasion was reminiscent of Mid 90s Soap Operas.
kedrell
08-17-2006, 11:14 PM
^ Don't know much about him, but I've heard good things about Wentworth Miller. He might work.
TrailerCues
08-17-2006, 11:33 PM
Hahahaha, that guy cannot act at all
That is your opinion
RedIsNotBlue
08-17-2006, 11:34 PM
Damn I forgot all about Eddie Cibrian. He would be awesome for Iron-Man.
jrd550
08-17-2006, 11:57 PM
good choice, hope he takes it.
GoldGoblin
08-18-2006, 01:07 AM
Terrence Howard is a great actor,I hope he will be in it.
Warhammer
08-18-2006, 01:12 AM
^Agreed.
Terrence is one of the best actors in Hollywood now.
He should definitely be Rhodes/War Machine.
The Apatow Crew
08-18-2006, 01:14 AM
^Agreed.
Terrence is one of the best actors in Hollywood now.
He should definitely be Rhodes/War Machine.Yes he is excellent.
Son Of Logan
08-18-2006, 09:43 AM
Yep I never saw that but I liked what he did with Invasion
Is that the same guy who was in "Tilt"?
muscaremy
08-19-2006, 06:06 PM
i dunno if this has been pointed out cuz i was net less for 3 weeks but if terrence howard has been offered the role that means theyre lookin for talent .... so what would that mean for stark himself... theyd have to cast some equally skilled no...
U.S War Machine
08-20-2006, 02:38 PM
maybe :down
tamron
08-20-2006, 08:40 PM
i dunno if this has been pointed out cuz i was net less for 3 weeks but if terrence howard has been offered the role that means theyre lookin for talent .... so what would that mean for stark himself... theyd have to cast some equally skilled no...
Maybe or it could mean they'll surround a newcomer with 'name' veteran actors. We really don't know yet.
Retroman
10-10-2006, 01:40 AM
Its now official! A very good actor and a great addition to the cast.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/get_rich_or_die_tryin_/terrence_dashon_howard/getrich1.jpghttp://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/four_brothers/terrence_dashon_howard/fourbrothers1.jpghttp://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_classics/hustle___flow/terrence_dashon_howard/hustle4.jpg
Terrence Howard Set for Iron Man
Source: Variety October 10, 2006
Terrence Howard is set to join Robert Downey Jr. in Iron Man, reports Variety.
The Jon Favreau-directed film is the first to be financed through an arrangement that Marvel Studios formed with Merrill Lynch. Paramount Pictures releases the film May 2, 2008.
Howard will play Jim "Rhodey" Rhodes, the confidante of Iron Man's alter ego, Tony Stark. Rhodes, a high ranking military officer and aviator, steers the team that develops the robotic suit that allows the sickly Stark to fly around and battle bad guys.
In the comic, Rhodes' character gets his own armored suit and evolves into an occasionally antagonistic character called War Machine. That development seems likely to be saved for the sequel, though, as Iron Man will battle villain the Mandarin when shooting begins in February in L.A.
"The suit is purely an innovative creation, so this is Marvel meets Tom Clancy technology," Marvel Studios production president Kevin Feige said. "Having the best actors for the key roles allows them to inhabit the hyperkinetic reality of this world."
Source: http://superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=4790
Advanced Dark
10-10-2006, 01:42 AM
Great find retro or make that a very quick find here LOL and this movie is building up some major talent. I can't freaking wait. Now Mandarin is the biggest mystery. Here's the same story at HReporter:
Howard flying to 'Iron Man'
By Gregg Kilday
Terrence Howard is joining the cast of Marvel's "Iron Man," in which he will play Jim "Rhodey" Rhodes, the best friend of Tony Stark, the billionaire industrialist who becomes the superhero known as Iron Man.
As Rhodes, Howard will appear as a military pilot who assists Stark (Robert Downey Jr.). Jon Favreau is directing the film.
"The richness of the role and complexity of the character seemed to mesh perfectly with the type of passion, energy and emotion that Howard brings to all of his projects," Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige said.
Filming is scheduled to begin in February in Los Angeles, with the movie's release, through Paramount Pictures, slated for May 2, 2008. "Iron Man" will be produced by Avi Arad and Feige. Executive producers are Michael Helfant, Arad, Favreau, Louis D'Esposito and Peter Billingsley.
Howard, who earned an Academy Award nomination for best actor for his performance in last year's "Hustle & Flow," also starred in the Oscar-winning "Crash." He recently completed production on "The Brave One" with Jodie Foster and is shooting "Spring Break in Bosnia" with Richard Gere. His credits include "Idlewild," "Get Rich or Die Tryin' " and "Four Brothers."
Howard is repped by WMA, managed by Shakim Compere and Victoria Fredrick of Flavor Unit, and his attorney is Stewart Levy.
Retroman
10-10-2006, 01:52 AM
Its looking that way.:word:
Check out this pic taken in June, 2006. Coincidence?:woot:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9676/ethanhawkekambo8938147400dx1.jpg
Source: http://us.imdb.com/rg/photos-name/summary//gallery/granitz/4884/Events/4884/EthanHawke_Kambo_8938147_400.jpg.html
RedIsNotBlue
10-10-2006, 01:53 AM
Thanks for the ejaculation Retro. :)
Advanced Dark
10-10-2006, 01:55 AM
Famke huh? We'll probably get that confirmation in the days ahead.
muscaremy
10-10-2006, 01:57 AM
bonus......wheres the mandarin casting now
xwolverine2
10-10-2006, 02:00 AM
famke is so hot
Advanced Dark
10-10-2006, 02:00 AM
bonus......wheres the mandarin casting now
http://www.ziyue.com/movies/usa/2002/KungPowEntertheFist/co5.jpg
Howabout Steve Oederkerk. ;)
Retroman
10-10-2006, 02:17 AM
Thanks for the ejaculation Retro. :)
Uhm....okay?!?:ninja:
Famke huh? We'll probably get that confirmation in the days ahead.
FYI (Before people get any ideas) Famke and Terrence are not romantically involved.:o
I'm still on the fence about her doing Iron Man though . We are so used to seeing her as Jean Grey/Phoenix and i feel they shouldn't really have one actor playing more than one character in the Marvel universe.
I know Ben Foster and Rebecca Romijn have done it but most people would don't recognize them outside the films. Foster looks like a different person in Punisher and Rebecca is covered in prosthetics in 90% of the X-films.
CaptainStacy
10-10-2006, 02:24 AM
So Terrence is official. Cool.
Advanced Dark
10-10-2006, 02:30 AM
[QUOTE=Retroman]Uhm....okay?!?:ninja:
FYI (Before people get any ideas) Famke and Terrence are not romantically involved.:o
[QUOTE]
LOL Most of us saw that rumor with Famke possibly getting in on this movie but it's a good idea to clear that up Retrodude.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/artisan_entertainment/made/_group_photos/famke_janssen3.jpg
6 degrees of Famke
The Apatow Crew
10-10-2006, 02:48 AM
That's awesome. He's a fav of mine ever since seeing "Hustle & Flow"
Downhere
10-10-2006, 03:13 AM
This is great news, Howard will do the role justice. Glad to see this film is attracting great actors.
Catman
10-10-2006, 03:19 AM
He's a great actor. Nice to see him cast.
The Apatow Crew
10-10-2006, 03:24 AM
This is great news, Howard will do the role justice. Glad to see this film is attracting great actors.Yeah i know.
btw your avvy is hilarious!:woot:
RedIsNotBlue
10-10-2006, 03:54 AM
How could anyone not be looking forward to this? Look at this top notch cast forming. ****ing Oscar caliber.
The Apatow Crew
10-10-2006, 04:05 AM
How could anyone not be looking forward to this? Look at this top notch cast forming. ****ing Oscar caliber.Yeah it does look like its gonna be superb.
kedrell
10-10-2006, 05:26 AM
Here's hoping it'll be another winner like BB.
Here's hoping it'll be another winner like BB.QFT!
I wasn't so sure of this film, well not sure about RDjnr as IM but Howard is cool. So now i'm looking forward to this film. :woot: :word:
Downey better bring his A game if he doesn't wanna get his scenes stolen by Howard. :hyper:
lordofthenerds
10-10-2006, 06:24 AM
Great, I was hoping that would be announced this week.
phoenix_force
10-10-2006, 06:45 AM
edit
phoenix_force
10-10-2006, 06:53 AM
the famke rumour seems to be getting ,ore belivable everyday shes been with all 3 of them before! faverau downey and terrence
http://www.famke-janssen.org/gallery/albums/albums/television/ally_mcbeal/4x10_captures/cap135.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/artisan_entertainment/made/_group_photos/famke_janssen3.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9676/ethanhawkekambo8938147400dx1.jpg
ultimatefan
10-10-2006, 07:25 AM
the famke rumour seems to be getting ,ore belivable everyday shes been with all 3 of them before! faverau downey and terrence
http://www.famke-janssen.org/gallery/albums/albums/television/ally_mcbeal/4x10_captures/cap135.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/artisan_entertainment/made/_group_photos/famke_janssen3.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9676/ethanhawkekambo8938147400dx1.jpg
"You won´t believe with how many men I had to sleep to get this role..."
Kidding!
ultimatefan
10-10-2006, 07:26 AM
I think the cast is actually shaping up nicely. I´m getting more confident in this.
James"007"Bond
10-10-2006, 07:35 AM
I knew Howard wouldn't turn this role down. Great decision and great choice of actor for the role.
Rendikev
10-10-2006, 07:44 AM
Robert Downey Jr and Terrance Howard. Now thats what I call A-list cast, lets hope that the script is good and then we will see fireworks!
AVEITWITHJAMON
10-10-2006, 08:55 AM
Not sure about RDJ but Howard is a good addition to the cast, hope Janssen isnt in it though, she's too recognisable as Jean Grey IMO.
ThatOneGuy
10-10-2006, 09:42 AM
Awesome...!
batman44
10-10-2006, 10:35 AM
Cool, glad TH is playing Rhodes:up:
Still A ThorFan
10-10-2006, 11:02 AM
I'm telling you guys, Marvel Studios is in better hands with Feige than Avi. I bet if Avi was still in control Ashton Kutcher would have been Tony Stark, and LL Cool J would have been Rhodes.
jrd550
10-10-2006, 11:10 AM
I must admit - Iron Man is getting better and better...
tamron
10-10-2006, 11:16 AM
Ugh. I couldn't be more disappointed with the choice of Terrence Howard as Rhodey.
Terrence is a great actor, I like him and his work, but he doesn't fit the character of Jim Rhodes, IMHO.
kirbyfan
10-10-2006, 11:22 AM
Howard is a very good actor, but he is definitely not Jim Rhodes!! Who ever is in charge of casting just doesn't know what they are doing??
Jim Rhodes is an older, bigger, and darker skinned man. I agree with a choice like Dennis Haysbert.
Spider - Man
10-10-2006, 11:32 AM
Howard is a very good actor, but he is definitely not Jim Rhodes!! Who ever is in charge of casting just doesn't know what they are doing??
Jim Rhodes is an older, bigger, and darker skinned man. I agree with a choice like Dennis Haysbert.
I agree. He is not Rhodey. But this is an example of the negative side of the 2-edged sword that is the creative elements of these movies talking directly to the fans. If you look on these boards and others you'l see how so many people keep saying "Terrence Howard for Rhodey! Terrence Howard for Rhodey!" Sometimes they listen when the fans ask for the WRONG thing!
Ironman24
10-10-2006, 11:32 AM
Great news, this is one very talented cast. I think Terrence will make a awesome Jim Rhodes.
NoirMan82
10-10-2006, 11:34 AM
Howard is a very good actor, but he is definitely not Jim Rhodes!! Who ever is in charge of casting just doesn't know what they are doing??
Jim Rhodes is an older, bigger, and darker skinned man. I agree with a choice like Dennis Haysbert.
How could you guys not be thrilled with this choice? Haysbert is a great actor, but if people had concerns with Downey's age, the they should be adamant against Haysbert being Rhodey. Howard is top-notch talent and he doesn't have to be a complete doppleganger of the comic version. I thought we were past the days of casting by looks as opposed to talent. Besides, a person can always get darker or bigger if need be, so your disapproval is not really warranted.
tamron
10-10-2006, 11:57 AM
How could you guys not be thrilled with this choice? Haysbert is a great actor, but if people had concerns with Downey's age, the they should be adamant against Haysbert being Rhodey. Howard is top-notch talent and he doesn't have to be a complete doppleganger of the comic version. I thought we were past the days of casting by looks as opposed to talent. Besides, a person can always get darker or bigger if need be, so your disapproval is not really warranted.
People's opinions are warranted by whatever reasons they see fit. You don't have to agree, but if they feel that way, they feel that way.
No one is denying Howard's talent. The man act.
Rhodey has always been presented as a counterpoint to Tony as a character. Tony is more of the brains, Rhodey the brawn. Tony is boardroom, Rhodey is street. Rhodey has always been a physical guy, and is a former US Marine. Terrence Howard has never come off as a imposing guy physically. In fact, many people on the boards have stated that Howard could be Stark if they were colorblind casting.
What I fear is that they want Howard because Rhodey will be depicted in the film as Stark's contemporary rather than a counterpoint. Of course, i'm just gathering this based on what we know right now. But if my assumptions prove correct, I have every right to be disappointed, as they have altered the classic dynamic that always worked well in the comics, and one I wanted to see on screen.
I'm not turning into a doomsayer just yet, but I am saying these casting moves have not instilled confidence in me about this project. Hopefully I'm wrong, and IM is both a faithful adaptation and a great film.
Casius--J
10-10-2006, 11:59 AM
I never was that big on the idea of terence for rhody, but im not too disappointed with the casting. He's a great actor and as long as the character is the close to the comics then my reservations of his look wont matter as much.
Son Of Logan
10-10-2006, 12:01 PM
I love Terrence Howard, but I have never seen him as a tough or imposing character. His "tough" characters always seem like stretches. Like he's street but not really a strong guy. See Dead Presidents or Hustle & Flow to see what I mean.
As far as picking a great actor to be Rhodey and possibly War Machine, Howard is a great choice. But I fear Tamron's assessment may be correct, and Rhodey will be portrayed more as a contemporary.
Darthphere
10-10-2006, 12:09 PM
Great pick!
symbspider33
10-10-2006, 12:14 PM
Terrence Howard is in this so now I hafta see this! He by far my fav actor!
Perhaps you can wait and see whether Howard will bulk up for the role. Just because you can't imagine him being more tough, doesn't mean he won't be by the time they start filming. As for acting, is anyone genuinely worried he isn't able to act and portray the role? Maybe you should be worried about how Favreau intends to portray the character, rather than this guy being able to do it.
If you guys really are worried about this you could make sure you get your voices heard by Favreau. Rather than voicing this to some comic fans in a forum on SHH!. :)
p.s. I hope he does bulk up for the role.
PWN3R
10-10-2006, 01:16 PM
pwn3r ranger is pleased by this wonderful news.
Lightning Strykez!
10-10-2006, 01:28 PM
In my opinion, this is a brilliant casting choice. Wow. :hyper:
LadyMoira
10-10-2006, 01:28 PM
Now that is great casting news! Howard is an amazing actor, and anyone who's seen "Hustle and Flow" can testify that the man can be a pretty buff presence when he tries. I actually find the fact that they're casting guys with serious acting chops like Howard and RDJ, instead of some pretty boy types to be a good sign for the movie.
LadyMoira
10-10-2006, 01:29 PM
Sorry for the double post
PWN3R
10-10-2006, 01:29 PM
In my opinion, this is a brilliant casting choice. Wow. :hyper:
Yeah I am really surprised. Rhodes and Downey Jr.? Iron Man is looking to be Marvel's best movie yet...
kedrell
10-10-2006, 01:40 PM
I agree. He is not Rhodey. But this is an example of the negative side of the 2-edged sword that is the creative elements of these movies talking directly to the fans. If you look on these boards and others you'l see how so many people keep saying "Terrence Howard for Rhodey! Terrence Howard for Rhodey!" Sometimes they listen when the fans ask for the WRONG thing!
That's assuming they are asking for the wrong thing.
The Apatow Crew
10-10-2006, 01:42 PM
Good lord i'll never understand people. You got two Oscar nominated actoes and your still complaning. Like i always sauid before comic fans are never happy no matter who the choice is. There always find something to gripe about.
Yellow Cyclone
10-10-2006, 01:45 PM
No one is denying Howard's talent. The man act.
Rhodey has always been presented as a counterpoint to Tony as a character. Tony is more of the brains, Rhodey the brawn. Tony is boardroom, Rhodey is street. Rhodey has always been a physical guy, and is a former US Marine. Terrence Howard has never come off as a imposing guy physically. In fact, many people on the boards have stated that Howard could be Stark if they were colorblind casting.
What I fear is that they want Howard because Rhodey will be depicted in the film as Stark's contemporary rather than a counterpoint. Of course, i'm just gathering this based on what we know right now. But if my assumptions prove correct, I have every right to be disappointed, as they have altered the classic dynamic that always worked well in the comics, and one I wanted to see on screen.
well said :up:
but as previously stated the man can act, so we won't know for sure. but as long as they make him the ex-marine, then it should be fine
to me, rhodes has always been the badass mofo in iron man's universe. so if he can rock the beard/goatee, attitude, and voice, then this could be one of the films to beat in 2008
Red X
10-10-2006, 01:45 PM
Great choice :up:
kedrell
10-10-2006, 01:46 PM
Good lord i'll never understand people. You got two Oscar nominated actoes and your still complaning. Like i always sauid before comic fans are never happy no matter who the choice is. There always find something to gripe about.
Comic fans are the most argumentative group of people I have ever seen. They'd disagree on the color of the sky, so I'm never surprised by them argueing about this. You really shouldn't be either.
The Apatow Crew
10-10-2006, 01:51 PM
Comic fans are the most argumentative group of people I have ever seen. They'd disagree on the color of the sky, so I'm never surprised by them argueing about this. You really shouldn't be either.Yeah your rigjt i shouldn't be surprised. These are the same people who argued over the light color background on the new X3 dvd cover.
tamron
10-10-2006, 02:15 PM
I hardly felt I was 'complaining' or being 'argumentative'. Why must it be complete agreement or nothing at all? Simply because I agree he's a great actor, but don't perceive him as a perfect fit for Rhodey, I'm complaining? I mean, God forbid we actually discuss something on a discussion board.
kedrell
10-10-2006, 02:25 PM
I hardly felt I was 'complaining' or being 'argumentative'. Why must it be complete agreement or nothing at all? Simply because I agree he's a great actor, but don't perceive him as a perfect fit for Rhodey, I'm complaining? I mean, God forbid we actually discuss something on a discussion board.
I'm not singling out anyone in particular, all I'm saying is that if you want consensus, you're very unlikely to find it among comic book fans. I've been on music fan sites and movie fan sites and comics fan sites and comic book fans disagree more than any of them.
Gold Samurai
10-10-2006, 03:57 PM
she's too recognisable as Jean Grey IMO.
not to me :D
http://www.jamesbond.com/mmpr/media/missions/ge/onatopp_02.jpg
xenia onatopp all the way!
Warhammer
10-10-2006, 05:30 PM
Terrence Howard as Rhodes is great to me. :up: :up:
Terrence Howard as Rhodes is great to me. :up: :up:
Thumbs Up from me as well. I honestly can't think of a better choice.
phoenix_force
10-10-2006, 07:13 PM
Jon sdaid the famke rumour is untrue on myspace so she isnt in oh well
ScarletSpider
10-10-2006, 07:22 PM
Good lord i'll never understand people. You got two Oscar nominated actoes and your still complaning. Like i always sauid before comic fans are never happy no matter who the choice is. There always find something to gripe about.
Aint that the truth.
I myself am very pleased with this. Great casting for Stark and Rhodes so far, I really feel that with this movie they're aiming to make a good film like the Spider-Man movies and X-Men 2, rather than a quick buck like FF and X3.
Ironfan72
10-10-2006, 07:52 PM
Jon sdaid the famke rumour is untrue on myspace so she isnt in oh well
I kind of had a feeling, but was surprised it took so long to say something one way or another, I would have liked to see her in Iron Man, but most comicbook fans recognize her as Jean Grey, and would have complained about it, and believe me, comicbook fans don't need much to complian.
im good with Howard:woot:
chesslover
10-10-2006, 09:14 PM
im good with Howard:woot:
:huh:
Cmill216
10-10-2006, 10:01 PM
Wow. Favreau's really got something going here. I'm not really sure on Downey still, but Howard is an excellent pickup. This film is definitely in good hands.
xwolverine2
10-10-2006, 11:31 PM
not to me
http://www.jamesbond.com/mmpr/media/missions/ge/onatopp_02.jpg
xenia onatopp all the way!
:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
jrd550
10-11-2006, 12:16 AM
I must confess, I heard an interview with Jon Favreau on KCRW's "the business" and the man knows his stuff - if he has as much taste as he has common sense this film is going to ROCK. check it out for yourselves:
http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tb/tb060917no_special_effects_i
ksshane
10-11-2006, 04:21 AM
I dont know what all the complaining is about.
I have wanted to see an Ironman movie since I was a kid (30 something now). And with these actors alone its going to be great.
I just dont get it. I swear the majority of people that post on this site complain just to complain.
Mister Sinister
10-11-2006, 05:05 AM
Thanks to my time machine, I managed to get premier pics.
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.316680.jpg
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.316687.jpg
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.316689.jpg
Ironman24
10-11-2006, 09:07 AM
I dont know what all the complaining is about.
I have wanted to see an Ironman movie since I was a kid (30 something now). And with these actors alone its going to be great.
I just dont get it. I swear the majority of people that post on this site complain just to complain.
Welcome to the hype! ksshane, I to have been a Iron Man fan for 25 years (30 something now as well) and I couldn't be happier with the people cast to play Tony and Jim.
Ironman24
10-11-2006, 09:08 AM
I must confess, I heard an interview with Jon Favreau on KCRW's "the business" and the man knows his stuff - if he has as much taste as he has common sense this film is going to ROCK. check it out for yourselves:
http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tb/tb060917no_special_effects_i
I listened to it Monday, the link was on comics2film, did anyone else catch near the end of the interview, when Jon said he had meet that morning with people from Stan Winston studios, sounds like Stan's on board.
ReptileOrion
10-11-2006, 09:51 AM
It is good to see the cast is coming along well. Terrence Howard will do a great job on the film.
Spider - Man
10-11-2006, 11:42 AM
That's assuming they are asking for the wrong thing.
IMO they ARE. I guess in your opinion, they aren't. I just think it's funny that so many people wanted him for Diamondback in Luke Cage. And now they want him for Rhodey. See, those characters are so similar. NOT!
And whoever said him being an Oscar nominee makes any difference needs to go see just how much having an Oscar WINNER playing the lead did for the Catwoman movie! Ughhh!!!
marcvader
10-11-2006, 12:03 PM
This movie has quality written all over it.
tamron
10-11-2006, 12:48 PM
I dont know what all the complaining is about.
I have wanted to see an Ironman movie since I was a kid (30 something now). And with these actors alone its going to be great.
I just dont get it. I swear the majority of people that post on this site complain just to complain.
Rather than even consider a discussion as to why Howard may not be a perfect choice, you'd rather just brand people as complainers and malcontents. Does that make you feel good or something?
People complaining about 'complaining' is more annoying than anything, because rather than acknowledge any merit in an opinion other than their own, they simply disparage it, ultimately, offering nothing to the conversation.
I guess we're supposed to blindly agree with every casting decision that comes down the pike, right?
NoirMan82
10-11-2006, 01:34 PM
People's opinions are warranted by whatever reasons they see fit. You don't have to agree, but if they feel that way, they feel that way.
No one is denying Howard's talent. The man act.
Rhodey has always been presented as a counterpoint to Tony as a character. Tony is more of the brains, Rhodey the brawn. Tony is boardroom, Rhodey is street. Rhodey has always been a physical guy, and is a former US Marine. Terrence Howard has never come off as a imposing guy physically. In fact, many people on the boards have stated that Howard could be Stark if they were colorblind casting.
What I fear is that they want Howard because Rhodey will be depicted in the film as Stark's contemporary rather than a counterpoint. Of course, i'm just gathering this based on what we know right now. But if my assumptions prove correct, I have every right to be disappointed, as they have altered the classic dynamic that always worked well in the comics, and one I wanted to see on screen.
I'm not turning into a doomsayer just yet, but I am saying these casting moves have not instilled confidence in me about this project. Hopefully I'm wrong, and IM is both a faithful adaptation and a great film.
If you're disappointed becuase a comic book movie isn't staying completely faithful to the source material, prepare yourself for a lifetime of disappointment. I don't think Howard was the sole choice for Rhodes, or really the best choice, but he is an inspired, top-quality, sound, and more than servicable choice. For a comic book film, that's basically the best you can really hope for. We should all be pleased with the decision, not because he's all who we want to see for the role, but because it bodes well for the quality of the film and the integrity of the cast.
Cinemaman
10-11-2006, 02:40 PM
Howard would be good choice. Favreu knows what he is doing :up:
Gold Samurai
10-11-2006, 03:27 PM
Thanks to my time machine, I managed to get premier pics.
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.316680.jpg
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.316687.jpg
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.316689.jpg
haha did you manage to peek and see how well it did at the box office? lol
6 degrees indeed
tamron
10-11-2006, 03:41 PM
I don't think Howard was the sole choice for Rhodes, or really the best choice, but he is an inspired, top-quality, sound, and more than servicable choice. For a comic book film, that's basically the best you can really hope for. We should all be pleased with the decision, not because he's all who we want to see for the role, but because it bodes well for the quality of the film and the integrity of the cast.
To those points, I agree. His casting does bode well as far as the film's quality. I'm hoping the film kicks ass.
Darthphere
10-11-2006, 03:53 PM
Look at it this way, its not Jamie Foxx.
C. Lee
10-11-2006, 11:29 PM
Look at it this way, its not Jamie Foxx.
That's a major blessing. To me...Foxx's work is very hit or miss. Some of his work is fantastic acting...the other is just characatures.
jrd550
10-11-2006, 11:32 PM
I'm glad it's not Jaime Fox, or Cuba Gooding or Tyrese - Howard is perfect.
Downhere
10-12-2006, 12:17 AM
btw your avvy is hilarious!:woot:
Thanks, I do always try to find something funny when it comes to my avvy's. lol.
That's a major blessing. To me...Foxx's work is very hit or miss. Some of his work is fantastic acting...the other is just characatures.
I gotta agree with that, plus Foxx is just a bit too big now. I like that they went with someone who is not as mainstream.
celldog
10-12-2006, 08:43 AM
http://www.nt2099.com/comics/milestones/art/cbm33b.jpg
Definitely see Terrence Howard there.
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Snipes looks more the role than Howard (if you use the picture you posted).
But I guess Rhodes has never kept a consistent "look" over the years, anyway.
kirbyfan
10-12-2006, 11:54 AM
You can try and justify this miscasting all you want, but as good as Terrance Howard may be, he is definitely not right for the role of Jim Rhodes!!
Two things, he's not tall enough or big enough!!
Downhere
10-12-2006, 12:38 PM
You can try and justify this miscasting all you want, but as good as Terrance Howard may be, he is definitely not right for the role of Jim Rhodes!!
Two things, he's not tall enough or big enough!!
One must remember that those involved in these kinds of films don't always go for someone who will look exactly like their comic book counterpart, therefore I think we should all have an open mind about these casting decisions because they can work out really well...i.e. Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.
tamron
10-12-2006, 01:15 PM
But I guess Rhodes has never kept a consistent "look" over the years, anyway.
He's been consistent in that he's been drawn as a tall, muscular, dark skinned African-American with a mustache and goatee. But you are right in that artists have used different people as a model for his appearance. The most obvious models have been Wesley Snipes, Michael Jai White, and Dennis Haysbert.
Seeing as how Rhodey hasn't been part of IM's supporting cast for a while, I can't wait to see him return to Iron Man titles, just in time to coincide with the film release.
SurfDUI
10-12-2006, 01:36 PM
credit -
My first issue of Iron Man bought w/ my own money was #222. To this day this is my favorite armor, favorite time in the I.M. Continuity, and ONE of my top 6 greatest comic covers of all time...or at least top 6 Marvel covers.
The problem w/ this casting is the pool of black actors is sooo small, that sometimes we end up steppin on our own feet when we cast. OTS-I've heard the rumors of Tyrees and/or Wesly Snipes (AGAIN) playing Luke Cage. That shouldn't have to pass. If EITHER of them brothas are cast. I'll have to wait 30years for the next gen Power Man movie.
It's like Halle Berry being Catwoman and Storm-it works for her because Catwoman is a non thought, but herin lies the delimma.
It's a whole cultural thing. Why not Mike Clarke Duncan...outside of him being the Kingpin that's the only drawback-it's not right for someone to show up at a Comic Con and represent two different companies/characters.
Terrance Howard...I guess, but he's the flavor of the month-why don't darker actors get anywork. We just go to default when brothas are cast. nothing against him as an actor, but screw him. (Players Club is like my favorite movie)
Here's a suggestion, - FIND A NEW BROTHA, how about "INTRODUCING...SO AND SO". FK that, why do we have to settle. IF that's not going to work here are some suggestions. The lead from Antwon Fisher ( maybe too young) Mike Clarke Duncan, John Amos (go older)...I'm out of choices alreay Maybe Isaiah Washington - (I don't watch Grey's Anatomy, but I remember him from, well when he was in movies.
What else.
RedIsNotBlue
10-12-2006, 04:47 PM
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Snipes looks more the role than Howard (if you use the picture you posted).
But I guess Rhodes has never kept a consistent "look" over the years, anyway.
I would have definitely not minded Snipes as Rhodes. But the fact he is already Blade kills it and he is possibly doing Black Panther. And that pic does strike a resemblance to Howard to me.
WeaponXProject
10-13-2006, 12:39 AM
This cast is starting to look spectacular! How long before Rhodes dawns the War Machine suit...this movie...the next? Likely the next but I can't wait for the aerial battles that Iron Man will have. I have yet to see a great aerial battle in any Superhero movie besides Spidey One. Can't wait!
Two things, he's not tall enough or big enough!!Howard is 6' 2", Downey is 5' 9". So he'll be taller than Downey's Stark. As for "big" if he bulks up will there be a problem? :huh:
James"007"Bond
10-13-2006, 08:27 AM
Its all about talent and that is something some idiots dont seem to realise. Howard is a capable actor and very talented, check his credentials. Could there have been a better choice of casting? Maybe but its irelevent. The fact is Howard is cast and he is more than qualified to take on this role.
Ironman24
10-13-2006, 09:16 AM
The problem is, most comic fans believe that the actor should look completely like th character in the comics or at least within 90%, and anything else is wrong, however, we've seen many actors cast in films, that do not fit the mold of the character they are cast to play and have done a wonderful job, Hugh Jackman, I believe he's 6' or taller, Wolverine 5' nothing, but Hugh did a fanastic job as Wolverine, Micheal Clark Duncan, African American, Kingpin, Caucasn, Micheal was a very good Kingpin.
That's just a couple of examples of casting that the fans ripped that worked out very well, does Terrence Howard look like Jim Rhodes, no, but its a movie, they are going to look different, and as a fan I would expect they would, and all I care about is the quality of the film, I'll be thrilled seeing Iron Man on the screen and all the character I grew up reading about in the comics, do they look exactly as they did in the books, no, but what does it really matter if the film is good.
Chris Wallace
10-13-2006, 05:49 PM
I like it, Terrence is a very good actor and would be a excellent choice to play Jim Rhodes.
I'm not thrilled about this one either. I just picture Rhodey as someone more...rugged. Terence is too much of a "pretty boy", IMO.
Spider - Man
10-13-2006, 08:16 PM
Its all about talent and that is something some idiots dont seem to realise. Howard is a capable actor and very talented, check his credentials. Could there have been a better choice of casting? Maybe but its irelevent. The fact is Howard is cast and he is more than qualified to take on this role.
Well, we idiots are so glad we have a genius of your calibre to let us know that it's "all about talent". Here we were thinking it may also have something to do with someone actually vaguely resembling their comic counterpart, but you in your wisdom have shown us the error of our ways. It's all about talent! With that philosophy in mind, they could have cast Hugh Grant as Bond! Or Ian McKellan, a much more "talented" English actor than Craig! Yeah, a bit old but they could've done the makeup thing on him that they did on X3. But that doesn't matter anyway because it's ALL ABOUT TALENT!
You're right, Howard HAS been cast. I'm just curious though: exactly how, other than being a black man and an actor, is he "more than qualified" to play Rhodey. I know your rationale is going to dazzle us all!
Hunter Rider
10-13-2006, 08:26 PM
Well i only missed this confirmation by 4 days:o,i kinda lost interest in Iron Man when RDJ was cast but Howard is a quality actor and since they will want a younger Rhodes he seems like a good choice:up:
The Game
10-13-2006, 08:46 PM
Its all about talent and that is something some idiots dont seem to realise. Howard is a capable actor and very talented, check his credentials. Could there have been a better choice of casting? Maybe but its irelevent. The fact is Howard is cast and he is more than qualified to take on this role.
Co-diggity
Howard can do this role justice, as for RDJ thats another thread entirely
Cmill216
10-13-2006, 10:31 PM
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What the fudge is your deal? :huh:
celldog
10-14-2006, 07:52 AM
I would have definitely not minded Snipes as Rhodes. But the fact he is already Blade kills it and he is possibly doing Black Panther. And that pic does strike a resemblance to Howard to me.
You're kidding right?? All black people must look alike, I guess.
That picture looks nothing like Howard!
Howard is light-skinned. And look at the hair cut. It's Snipes!
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celldog
10-14-2006, 07:53 AM
But I still think Howard is a great pick.
Spider-Fan
10-15-2006, 12:26 PM
I'll wait and see on this one. I don't know how much he is gonna bulk up or what he is gonna do going into filming.
James"007"Bond
10-15-2006, 01:01 PM
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James"007"Bond
10-15-2006, 01:08 PM
Well, we idiots are so glad we have a genius of your calibre to let us know that it's "all about talent". Here we were thinking it may also have something to do with someone actually vaguely resembling their comic counterpart, but you in your wisdom have shown us the error of our ways. It's all about talent! With that philosophy in mind, they could have cast Hugh Grant as Bond! Or Ian McKellan, a much more "talented" English actor than Craig! Yeah, a bit old but they could've done the makeup thing on him that they did on X3. But that doesn't matter anyway because it's ALL ABOUT TALENT!
You're right, Howard HAS been cast. I'm just curious though: exactly how, other than being a black man and an actor, is he "more than qualified" to play Rhodey. I know your rationale is going to dazzle us all!
Let me dazzle you with this, you're a pr1ck.
Howard being cast is better casting than other actors chosen for other marvel characters. His look is suitable for Rhodey but that was something I thought I didn't have to mention because, I thought I didn't have to point out the bleeding obvious but, I guess some idiots are slow like that.
Howard's look is inconsequencial right now because, his look is suitable and spitting images aren't a prerequisite. The main focus is his talent and his creds and performances are all the proof one needs to determine wether or not he's qualified for the role.
It wouldn't do to make a habbit out of being an asspr1ck. Schooled.
Spider - Man
10-15-2006, 05:28 PM
Let me dazzle you with this, you're a pr1ck.
That's what your mom likes about me!:word:
Howard being cast is better casting than other actors chosen for other marvel characters. His look is suitable for Rhodey but that was something I thought I didn't have to mention because, I thought I didn't have to point out the bleeding obvious but, I guess some idiots are slow like that.
Howard's look is inconsequencial right now because, his look is suitable and spitting images aren't a prerequisite. The main focus is his talent and his creds and performances are all the proof one needs to determine wether or not he's qualified for the role.
It wouldn't do to make a habbit out of being an asspr1ck. Schooled.
Ok, who really cares if he is better for Rhodey than, say, Joseph Culp was for Dr. Doom? That's supposed to make us 'idiots' feel better? Again, you make a sweeping statement without any examples to back it up. I asked a simple question: what makes him "more than qualified"? As I knew would be the case, you sidestepped answering the question,taking the low road and calling me an idiot again, a tactic reserved for those lacking the intellect to clearly express their point, and again gave a broad, generalized reason for your 'opinion'. You say "his performance and his creds" without actually citing any, sounding as if you really have no clue what you're talking about. "His look is suitable" says to me you are happy with the choice because "he is a black man." What OTHER trait does he have that makes him "more than qualified" for the role of Jim Rhodes? Come on, boy, I'm trying to help you form a rational argument. I know I'm wasting my time with that though, because your response will once again be regurgitated, generalized crap. The truth is, he does NOT have any of the characteristics of Jim Rhodes other than being a black man.
As I also stated, and to which you failed to respond, your argument could also be perfect reason to put Ian McKellan in the role of James Bond: talent, performance, and creds. A suave, handsome English actor. If that were the case, though, you'd turn against your own argument like Benedict Arnold and cry foul like the puss that you truly are.
As for you schooling anyone, I'd first suggest learning to spell 'whether' and 'habit', and what is THIS - His look is suitable for Rhodey but that was something I thought I didn't have to mention because, I thought I didn't have to point out the bleeding obvious but, I guess some idiots are slow like that - a run on-and-on sentence? Truth is you couldn't find your ass with both hands and a roadmap, much less make an educated judgement on an actor's qualifications. And as for the name-calling, I can see where it could become all too comfortable saying things like that via a chatboard but be careful: one day you may slip and actually say that to somebody's face and then you'll see what an 'asspr1ck' really is! :wow: "Boned. James Boned.
Spider - Man
10-15-2006, 05:32 PM
Howard's look is inconsequencial right now
And when will it become 'consequential'?
tamron
10-15-2006, 08:34 PM
The truth is, he does NOT have any of the characteristics of Jim Rhodes other than being a black man.
QFT.
The truth is, I think he does NOT have any of the characteristics of Jim Rhodes other than being a black man based on the minute information available to me at this time.Fixed, for great justice. :ninja:
Spider - Man
10-16-2006, 07:04 AM
Fixed, for great justice. :ninja:
And truth! Hey, I ain't above creative criticism! 'Preciate it!:up:
SurfDUI
10-16-2006, 11:12 AM
It's the same old argument hollywood -I'd just like to see a dark somebody in the role-and it's as shallow as that. I'm looking for Fredrick Douglass, Thurgood Marshall, Alex Haley or Desmond Wilson out there. This argument should likely be reserved for 'US'-the threaders that look like Terrance Howard-It should but it won't and that's groovy.
What it boils down to it the lack of opportunity, you got Wesly-which is the default action hero, Tyreese, Clark Duncan, Terrance Howard-who is the hollywood brotha of the year and who's phone will be ringin for the next 8 months...help me if I'm missing someone, anyone. And noboy under 30 for sure.
And don't get it twisted-In the end, Hollywood is making an Iron Man movie-and I'm Bart Simpson to the Radioactive Man movie similarly. They could cast Mary Kate and Ashley as Tony and James and as long as I hear the word 'Repulsor Rays' I'm more than cool. AND I actually like Jon F. (except for MADE, I mean I already watched him stare on screen at Vince V. while he delivered whitty monalogue after slappy banter in Swingers) Speaking of, how bout the brotha from Swingers gettin some work-I can't recall his name, but he was 'Julio' in Bilson and DeMeo's Flash
What about the dude that was in Gladiator, Dijon or somethin-HE really needs his turn in a Marvel or DC character live action treatment. I mean he is T'chilla to what Patty Stewert is to the professor. He would be a great Rhodey.
Some of you are right, we've all been wrong about casting before-(Mr. MOM:whatever: -yea right!!!) It's not about skill or talent sometimes.
tamron
10-16-2006, 12:06 PM
What about the dude that was in Gladiator, Dijon or somethin-HE really needs his turn in a Marvel or DC character live action treatment. I mean he is T'chilla to what Patty Stewert is to the professor. He would be a great Rhodey.
Djimon Hounsou is Black Panther. If only Marvel would get around to making a BP film. And he has been in a DC film, he was Papa Midnite in Constantine.
It's funny you that brought up Thurgood Marshall, Howard is in negotiations to play him in The Crusaders.
Chris Wallace
10-16-2006, 12:11 PM
The black characters in these movies seem so...disposable. Halle as Storm, Bill Nunn as Robbie, now this. Are we gonna end up w/Nick Cannon as Black Panther?
Chris Wallace
10-16-2006, 12:14 PM
Djimon Hounsou is Black Panther. If only Marvel would get around to making a BP film.
While nobody wants him as BP more than I do, my hopes are dimming by the nanosecond.
SurfDUI
10-16-2006, 12:20 PM
disposable. Halle as Storm, Bill Nunn as Robbie, now this. Are we gonna end up w/Nick Cannon as Black Panther?
That's what I'm sayin'
Chris Wallace
10-16-2006, 12:27 PM
Wesley was a good fit-nay, a great fit for Blade. But then Blade was the star. At the same time I wouldn't want him for Black Panther, no matter how many people think it would be a good idea.
Spider - Man
10-16-2006, 12:48 PM
Thank you Tam, CW and Surf for stating my feelings more succinctly than I was able to. And I agree completely about Hounsou as BP. But for some reason, so many want Snipes for the part. I just don't get it.
tamron
10-16-2006, 01:05 PM
But for some reason, so many want Snipes for the part. I just don't get it.
Because Wesley stumped for Black Panther for a long time, even before the comic film boom. I remember him talking about his interest in a BP project as early as '92 or '93, during an interview for either Passenger 57 or Demolition Man. Wesley only went after Blade when BP didn't work out.
Because he was instrumental in pushing Blade to the forefront, and is a fine actor/action star and is/was a good box office draw, I think people got behind Wes. In short, I think most people figure if he was good as Blade he'd be a good BP too.
But even Wes started to admit around Blade II that he's getting too old for action films, and might only be an exec producer on BP.
Spider - Man
10-16-2006, 01:22 PM
Because Wesley stumped for Black Panther for a long time, even before the comic film boom. I remember him talking about his interest in a BP project as early as '92 or '93, during an interview for either Passenger 57 or Demolition Man. Wesley only went after Blade when BP didn't work out.
Because he was instrumental in pushing Blade to the forefront, and is a fine actor/action star and is/was a good box office draw, I think people got behind Wes. In short, I think most people figure if he was good as Blade he'd be a good BP too.
But even Wes started to admit around Blade II that he's getting too old for action films, and might only be an exec producer on BP.
My point is that I don't think Wesley was EVER the right person to play BP. It would be the equivalent of Halle Berry as Storm. She did a passable job (she got worse each film because at least in the first, she affected an African-like accent) but didn't truly personify the character IMO. Same with Snipes as BP.
Cmill216
10-16-2006, 01:28 PM
Angela Bassett should've been Storm.
Chris Wallace
10-16-2006, 01:39 PM
Thank you Tam, CW and Surf for stating my feelings more succinctly than I was able to. And I agree completely about Hounsou as BP. But for some reason, so many want Snipes for the part. I just don't get it.
Wesley's name was attached to it 10 years ago, & he's supposedly expressed some interest. But then, I can say the same of Nicolas Cage regarding Superman, or Tom Cruise & Iron Man. And 10 years ago I probably would've been cool with it. But those 10 years passed. And he just doesn't fit the part in my eyes. Nothing about him says "T'Challa" to me. And now he's Blade. He owned that role & made it his. And that's another strike against him. Blade & Panther have nothing in common apart from their color, & should not be played by the same actor. If they do that, they might as well get Halle to play Misty Knight & have Bill Nunn play T'Chaka.
And I know the risk I take by saying this, but look at Hugh Jackman. Look at Patrock Stewart. Tom Jane. J.K. Simmons. Rosemary Harris. Elizabeth Banks. It seems no expense/effort is spared in trying to get actors who look the part for these roles. But when it came to Robbie, Storm & Rhodey, it seems like just about any actor will do. Why is that?
Spider - Man
10-16-2006, 01:50 PM
Angela Bassett should've been Storm.
Well, hard as it is for me to believe, I agree. She was actually my one and only choice before they ever made the film. She would have been the perfect physical embodiment of the Storm that was portrayed on the old cartoon series: older and wiser but still a very beautiful, sexy woman. A travesty she never won an Oscar, particularly for her performance as Tina Turner.
Spider - Man
10-16-2006, 01:53 PM
Wesley's name was attached to it 10 years ago, & he's supposedly expressed some interest. But then, I can say the same of Nicolas Cage regarding Superman, or Tom Cruise & Iron Man. And 10 years ago I probably would've been cool with it. But those 10 years passed. And he just doesn't fit the part in my eyes. Nothing about him says "T'Challa" to me. And now he's Blade. He owned that role & made it his. And that's another strike against him. Blade & Panther have nothing in common apart from their color, & should not be played by the same actor. If they do that, they might as well get Halle to play Misty Knight & have Bill Nunn play T'Chaka.
And I know the risk I take by saying this, but look at Hugh Jackman. Look at Patrock Stewart. Tom Jane. J.K. Simmons. Rosemary Harris. Elizabeth Banks. It seems no expense/effort is spared in trying to get actors who look the part for these roles. But when it came to Robbie, Storm & Rhodey, it seems like just about any actor will do. Why is that?
Good question. Speaking of Misty Knight, I don't want to make any allusions to her acting ability/lack thereof, but I can't read a Heroes for Hire comic now without thinking of Beyonce as Foxy Cleopatra. I think she'd fit Misty just right. Note: Don't know if her current incarnation is faithful to the older version.
celldog
10-16-2006, 02:21 PM
Angela Bassett should've been Storm.
Iman would have been better.
http://images.quizilla.com/T/tedelton/1039943677_turesstorm.jpg
http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/iman/iman-009-img.jpg
Plus she's got the natural accent. Just imagine Iman's hair as white.
celldog
10-16-2006, 02:22 PM
Well, hard as it is for me to believe, I agree. She was actually my one and only choice before they ever made the film. She would have been the perfect physical embodiment of the Storm that was portrayed on the old cartoon series: older and wiser but still a very beautiful, sexy woman. A travesty she never won an Oscar, particularly for her performance as Tina Turner.
http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/iman/iman-009-img.jpg http://www.x-men.pl/bios/main/storm.jpg
tamron
10-16-2006, 02:24 PM
Snipes is not the right fit for BP now. But I can't say he never was. He's a damn good actor, but he's allowed himself to be pigeonholed as an action star. He had the chops to pull it off, it's just that time is no longer on his side.
Angela as Storm would've been perfect casting then. But the onus is really on Singer as he never had Storm's 'voice'. He merely wanted Storm to be eye-candy, and to that end, Berry fit the bill. Had they gotten Angela, she wouldn't have been able to play the role correctly, because the material wasn't there.
Beyonce shouldn't be anywhere near a Marvel film, or film for that matter. There are actresses who could play the role of Misty Knight. Aujanue Ellis, for example. She played Sistah Girl in Undercover Brother. Similar character to Foxy Cletopatra (both send-ups of 70's blaxplotation heroines) but Ellis was way better. And she looks like the character, Beyonce doesn't. Beyonce can sing and she is fine, but she can't act one lick.
Bill Nunn was a bad choice for Robbie. You know what would've been an inspired piece of casting? Sidney Poitier.
Cmill216
10-16-2006, 02:26 PM
^ However, Iman can't act, celldog. Bassett is an amazing actress and physically fits the role. I can't think of anyone better.
Advanced Dark
10-16-2006, 02:27 PM
Yuck.
Chris Wallace
10-16-2006, 02:29 PM
Snipes is not the right fit for BP now. But I can't say he never was. He's a damn good actor, but he's allowed himself to be pigeonholed as an action star. He had the chops to pull it off, it's just that time is no longer on his side.
Angela as Storm would've been perfect casting then. But the onus is really on Singer as he never had Storm's 'voice'. He merely wanted Storm to be eye-candy, and to that end, Berry fit the bill. Had they gotten Angela, she wouldn't have been able to play the role correctly, because the material wasn't there.
Beyonce shouldn't be anywhere near a Marvel film, or film for that matter. There are actresses who could play the role of Misty Knight. Aujanue Ellis, for example. She played Sistah Girl in Undercover Brother. Similar character to Foxy Cletopatra (both send-ups of 70's blaxplotation heroines) but Ellis was way better. And she looks like the character, Beyonce doesn't. Beyonce can sing and she is fine, but she can't act one lick.
Bill Nunn was a bad choice for Robbie. You know what would've been an inspired piece of casting? Sidney Poitier.Agreed for the most part. Angela's too old. MAYBE she could've pulled it off, but Singer & Co. wanted the movies to focus on Wolverine & didn't really care about Storm. I wanted Joe Morton for Robbie.
Chris Wallace
10-16-2006, 02:31 PM
^ However, Iman can't act, celldog.
Quite true.
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