Greatest Batman Villain?

[Arkady Rossovich]

Batman has some of the most demented and dangerious villains in comic history,most of them are known very well.Who is your favorite or who do you think is the greatest Batman villain?

Batman has plenty of villains,too much to list.Only choose 'Other' if the villain you want to vote for,is not on the poll.

[Mee]

Joker.

[CConn]

Joker.

[Batman]

Joker.

[Ceb-Man]

Joker

[Joe Kerr]

Blackmask.


i kid i kid...
joker... :D

[Mee]

Everybody wants to be like me.:cool:

[Batman]

Everybody wants to be like me.:cool:

Anyone with a dancing Bugs Bunny as their avatar deserves that kind of recognition.

[Mee]

Anyone with a dancing Bugs Bunny as their avatar deserves that kind of recognition.
I don't disagree.:up:

[Kraven]

I'd say Joker with Ra's Al Ghul as a close second.

[JLBats]

Two-Face, easy.

[Mee]

Two-Face is probably my third, behind Ras' at second.

[CConn]

Oh, we're doing lists now?

1. The Joker
2. Harley Quinn
3. Ra's Al Ghul
4. Two-Face
5. Catwoman
6. Black Mask

And I must say, I've always been a fan of Clayface for some reason.

[Darthphere]

Crazy Quilt.

[Silver Sable]

Joker
Scarecrow
Catwoman
Riddler
Mr.Freeze
Poison Ivy

[batmaluco]

http://www.johnnyretro.com/images/joker-face-aqua.jpg

[titan101]

joker.... DAMNIT!!!

[DCW]

1. Joker
2. Two-Face
3. Catwoman

[asp27]

For me it is the riddler

[Two-Face]

Two-Face for me, Joker is second close.

[Batman]

1. The Joker
2. Two-Face
3. Ra's Al Ghul
4. Mr. Freeze
5. Catwoman

[Dwarf lord]

Two Face. Joker has gotten old for me.

[Kevin Roegele]

The Joker. He really is the perfect modern version of the mythic trickster.

[JLBats]

To me, Two-Face is

A) The most emotionally complex
B) The most underused and abused

There are only a few writers who have really done justice to his full potential.

[ashtonu]

THE JOKER!!!

Followed by Two Face.

[Flexo]

Two-Face has always been my favorite, but that's because of the animated series.

[Flexo]

Poof.

This post knew too much.

[Darthphere]

Youre all fools, Crazy Quilt.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Well,my own favorite villains are The Joker,Bane,Harley Quinn,Ra`s Al Ghul and Hush.

[Spideyfan01]

1.Joker
2.Scarecrow
3.Two Face
4.Firefly
5.Penguin
6.Ra's Al Ghul

Don't ask me why Firefly is on my list, I just like him for some reason.

[Fear of god]

1. ****ing Joker
2. Two-Face
3. Al'Ghul
4. Hugo Strange
5. Scarecrow

[Qoèlet]

It is objectively true that it is the Joker.

[CConn]

http://img2.imagepile.net/img2/90301allnighte.gifThat post is so newbish. :huh:

Flexo, erase it. It's unworthy. :cmad:

[Bruce_Wayne29]

The Joker, Two-Face, Ra's Al Ghul, Hush and Bane.

[Flexo]

That post is so newbish. :huh:

Flexo, erase it. It's unworthy. :cmad:

Yessir, right away sir.

The classic mad emoticon has twisted you into zer00 2.0, you know.

[Franklin Richards]

Joker is the greatest. But my personal favorite is The Riddler.


I blame it on Gorshin.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[zer00]

Yessir, right away sir.

The classic mad emoticon has twisted you into zer00 2.0, you know.

I will have none of that. He will have to fight me. I pull at my lance ready to strike at you, sir.

[Spidey-Bat]

1) Joker
2) Ra's al Ghul
3) Two-Face

Unfortunate how 2 of my top 3 are currently inactive.

[ghost113]

joker, the only man who can cripple someone and laugh about it later.

[The Caped Knight]

Greatest Batman Villain?

The Clown Prince of Crime THE JOKER :joker:

[ChrisBaleBatman]

No contest.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Well,with Batman Begins in memory.I wonder if more votes will be for Ra`s?Or will the Joker get more,since he will be the villain in The Dark Knight...

[The Joker]

No competition here, it's The Joker all the way.

[BubbaGump]

To me, Two-Face is

A) The most emotionally complex
B) The most underused and abused

There are only a few writers who have really done justice to his full potential.

I only agree with "The most underused and abused." Half the stories (no pun intended) he's in he gets his face fixed, or it basically retells his origins.

As for emotionally complex...eh, not really. He's either a) Bad or b) slightly tilting towards the good side. However, Bruce Timm's "Two of a Kind" in Batman B&W is the most unique Two-Face story I've ever read (besides the entire fixing-his-face thing again). Two-Face should be made more complex instead of the standard black and white, good and bad philosophy.

Joker is the most emotionally complex--his randomness is appalling, frightening, and hilarious. He's unlike any other supervillain. Frankly, he's the best comic book villain...umm...ever!

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8251/yokerzp9.jpg

[BubbaGump]

But in order of my favorite Batman villains...

Joker
Two-Face
Riddler
Mr. Freeze
Scarecrow
Scarface/Ventriloquist
Penguin

[Two-Face]

But in order of my favorite Batman villains...

Joker
Two-Face
Riddler
Mr. Freeze
Scarecrow
Scarface/Ventriloquist
Penguin

He's my least favourite.. I don't like him.

[BubbaGump]

He's my least favourite.. I don't like him.

Hey, just because I dissed Two-Face...:cwink:

No, but really. I happen to like Scarface after his runs in Batman Adventures and in TAS. Dini does a great Scarface.

[Nepenthes]

Jason Todd
Poison Ivy
Killer Croc
Mr.Freeze
Man-Bat

[The Demon's Head]

Me, of course.

[Nepenthes]

This poll should have been favorite all-time villain with multiple votes allowed so we could rank them all. Actually maybe it should've been favourite all time villain *not including* the Joker.


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There's no argument Joker and Ra's are the Greatest Villains, it's not a matter of opinion. Bane is probably third. Joe Chill and any abstract concepts like 'murder', 'guilt' or 'human suffering' etc don't count as villains, otherwise Two-Face *would* be third for the guilt he has caused Batman over the years but he hasn't actually done anything himself to equal Bane in terms of destruction or harm to Batman.

[Cobblepot]

This a no-brainer...

http://www.geocities.com/torontodreaming/film/photos/egghead.jpg

[Mogwai]

Joker, hands down.

[Infinity9999x]

The Joker is Batman's Moriarity. I also think he's one of the most interesting and complicated villians in any form of literature.

[TheMadHatter]

two face sucks, hes overrated.........my vote goes for the mad hatter, he got closer to killing batman than two face did, he cut him in the arm with a knife and then shot him in the head in haunted knight.....and hes living the american dream by gettin tons of tamed teens

[Rynan]

FLATTOP!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Flattop.jpg

[TwilightPro101]

Joker.

[Zombie_samurai]

Egghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rezzo]

Obviously The Joker

[Spider-Bat]

The Joker, C'mon he's The Clown Prince of Crime!

Ra's Al Ghul, C'mon he's the Demon's Head!

Bane, C'mon he was cool at first!

[gadgetfusion]

1. The Joker
2. Two-Face
3. Harley Quinn
4. Scarecrow
5. Bane
6. Riddler
7. Poison Ivy
8. Mr. Freeze
9. Mad Hatter
10. Black Mask

I haven't read enough Ra's al Ghul or Talia al Ghul comics to have a proper opinion on them.

[odiin]

Come on man seriously, did you REALLY think anyone BUT the Joker would walk away with this??

This couldn't be more lopsided even if you asked if people thought George Clooney was the best Batman ever.

[TheCaptain22555]

I must say Joker just because he's so psychopathic and ruthless but his appearance says otherwise, though Two-Face is a very close second because he's so complex as he can't even make his own decisions without relying on the flip of a coin.

[Rynan]

Come on man seriously, did you REALLY think anyone BUT the Joker would walk away with this??

But The Joker hasn't earned it. Sure, he might have been Batman's greatest villain fifteen years ago, but now? Phish. If he isn't getting psycho-analyzed, he's getting beat-up or is cannon fodder for another villain.

It's like saying Superman is the greatest superhero. Everyone says it, but has he saved the day recently?

[odiin]

But The Joker hasn't earned it. Sure, he might have been Batman's greatest villain fifteen years ago, but now? Phish. If he isn't getting psycho-analyzed, he's getting beat-up or is cannon fodder for another villain.

It's like saying Superman is the greatest superhero. Everyone says it, but has he saved the day recently?

No, he's a fictional character, foo.

[Spider-Bat]

This a no-brainer...

http://www.geocities.com/torontodreaming/film/photos/egghead.jpg
This guy could kick the Joker's ass any day. :woot:

[Nepenthes]

The Joker
Ras's Al Ghul



Who is the third greatest villain? Two-Face or Bane?

[Two-Face]

The Joker
Ras's Al Ghul



Who is the third greatest villain? Two-Face or Bane?

Two-Face is second greatest Batman villain.:cwink:

[The Shredder]

Two-Face is second greatest Batman villain.:cwink:
I have to agree with you on that one.

Ra's would come in at third.

And Joker, of course, is the greatest. :up:

[Rezzo]

I have to agree with you on that one.

Ra's would come in at third.

And Joker, of course, is the greatest. :up:

Agreed :up:

[BubbaGump]

My definitive list (since I left some out a while back):

Joker
Two-Face
Ra's al Ghul
Scarecrow
Mr. Freeze
Riddler
Mad Hatter
Poison Ivy
Harley Quinn
Scarface
Clayface
Catwoman
Bane
Penguin
Man-Bat
Black Mask
Hush
Deathstroke

[Two-Face]

My definitive list (since I left some out a while back):

Joker
Two-Face
Ra's al Ghul
Scarecrow
Mr. Freeze
Riddler
Mad Hatter
Poison Ivy
Harley Quinn
Scarface
Clayface
Catwoman
Bane
Penguin
Man-Bat
Black Mask
Hush
Deathstroke*

*I never heard of him, is he good?

[BubbaGump]

*I never heard of him, is he good?

He's not much of a Batman villain (Teen Titans anti-hero), and I don't even know why he was included, but I wanted to put everyone on the list.

[DW4]

The Joker followed by Two-Face and Ras Al Ghul.

[TheMadHatter]

i said it once and ill say it again..........MAD HATTER

[The Shredder]

i said it once and ill say it again..........MAD HATTER
Go figure. ;)

[TheMadHatter]

even tho hes not batman ill assume yours is shredder?? lol

[The Shredder]

As far as TMNT villains go, yes. :)

[jgiant]

Joker of course

[Nepenthes]

My definitive list (since I left some out a while back):

Joker
Two-Face
Ra's al Ghul
Scarecrow
Mr. Freeze
Riddler
Mad Hatter
Poison Ivy
Harley Quinn
Scarface
Clayface
Catwoman
Bane
Penguin
Man-Bat
Black Mask
Hush
Deathstroke

You've got Bane after the Riddler, Hatter, Scarface?.....WTF. Bane is the only villain to put Bruce out of action, broken mentally and physically. He's one of the smartest villains (only Bane and Joker have ever beaten Ra's Al Ghul in chess!) and even without venom Bane will fight batman to a draw.



The Joker
Ra's Al Ghul
Bane
Two-Face
Poison Ivy (just because)

Anything beyond the top five is getting ridiculous.

[warren_sparta27]

The Joker
Two-Face
Ra`s Al Ghul
The Scarecrow
The Riddler
The Penguin
The Black Mask
Mr.Freeze
The Mad Hatter
Poison Ivy
Harley Quinn
Bane
Scarface
Clayface
Man-Bat
Catwoman (Catwoman is only at the bottom because i see her more of a misguided Hero than a villian)

[The Caped Knight]

This is very simple Logic The Greatest Villian of The Heroes is Usually the guy or girl that is written as The Arch-Nemesis .

BATMAN -The Joker

SUPERMAN - Lex Luthor

SPIDER-MAN - The Green Goblin

Captain America - The Red Skull

[The Caped Knight]

DC Comics

WONDER WOMAN - Cheetah

THE FLASH - The Weather Wizard

GREEN LANTERN - Sinestro

AQUAMAN - Black Manta

Martian Manhunter - White Martians

Marvel

X-men - Magneto

Fantastic Four - Doctor Doom

Iron Man - The Mandarin

The Hulk - The Leader

Thor - Loki

Daredevil - The Kingpin

You get my point

[Infinity9999x]

You've got Bane after the Riddler, Hatter, Scarface?.....WTF. Bane is the only villain to put Bruce out of action, broken mentally and physically. He's one of the smartest villains (only Bane and Joker have ever beaten Ra's Al Ghul in chess!) and even without venom Bane will fight batman to a draw.



The Joker
Ra's Al Ghul
Bane
Two-Face
Poison Ivy (just because)

Anything beyond the top five is getting ridiculous.

I was wondering, what ish. did Bane and Joker beat Ra's in chess? Does anyone have scans of it? Because I'd like to see that. I'd love to see how Ra's would react when the Joker beats him in chess.

[Batman]

DC Comics

WONDER WOMAN - Cheetah

THE FLASH - The Weather Wizard

GREEN LANTERN - Sinestro

AQUAMAN - Black Manta

Martian Manhunter - White Martians

Marvel

X-men - Magneto

Fantastic Four - Doctor Doom

Iron Man - The Mandarin

The Hulk - The Leader

Thor - Loki

Daredevil - The Kingpin

You get my point

...Wouldn't The Flash's be Zoom? :huh:

[BubbaGump]

You've got Bane after the Riddler, Hatter, Scarface?.....WTF. Bane is the only villain to put Bruce out of action, broken mentally and physically. He's one of the smartest villains (only Bane and Joker have ever beaten Ra's Al Ghul in chess!) and even without venom Bane will fight batman to a draw.



The Joker
Ra's Al Ghul
Bane
Two-Face
Poison Ivy (just because)

Anything beyond the top five is getting ridiculous.

I never liked Bane, so to me, he's not great.

[Steelsheen]

DC Comics

WONDER WOMAN - Cheetah


currently they're grooming Circe to be WW chief villain. about damn time i'm thinking.

[The Caped Knight]

...Wouldn't The Flash's be Zoom? :huh:

It depends on which version of The Flash your talking about it either could be Zoom or the Weather wizard .

[The Caped Knight]

currently they're grooming Circe to be WW chief villain. about damn time i'm thinking.

Really, Well that's good news. Don't get me wrong I like Cheetah as a Super Villainous but for the life of me . I could never understand What makes her the number one Arch-Nemesis of Diana .

[nite-owl]

No contest.

I can't remember him.:cwink:

1. Joker
2. Two Face
3. Ra's Al Ghul
4. Scarecrow

[Cyclops3235]

I can't remember him.:cwink:

1. Joker
2. Two Face
3. Ra's Al Ghul
4. Scarecrow

i agree wholeheartedly, with Bane as number 5

[Darkest Knight]

Joker, and it isn't even close. Best comic book villain of ALL-TIME.

[BubbaGump]

I can't remember him.:cwink:

1. Joker
2. Two Face
3. Ra's Al Ghul
4. Scarecrow

Hmm. That list looks familiar. :cwink:

[Bat Attack]

The Joker, :joker:

[Keyser Soze]

I was wondering, what ish. did Bane and Joker beat Ra's in chess? Does anyone have scans of it? Because I'd like to see that. I'd love to see how Ra's would react when the Joker beats him in chess.

http://members.tripod.com/agent0x7/jokerbat1.html

You'll find it there.

Enjoy. :cwink:

[DW4]

It seems as though the Penguin isn't a favorite for many fans.


Good. :)

[Batmansince1939]

Lets all aggree Azrael if you count him a villian would be the best!

[The Joker]

It seems as though the Penguin isn't a favorite for many fans.


Good. :)

Pengy's got more votes than most of the villains on that poll.

[Brian Braddock]

Pretty much a no-brainer.

:joker:

[Arkady Rossovich]

Even with all the choices on the poll,The Joker is the absolute choice...followed by Two Face,Ra`s Al Ghul,The Riddler,Scarecrow and Harley Quinn.

[Robin91939]

My list:

1.) Ra's Al Ghul
2.) The Joker
3.) Two-Face
4.) Bane
5.) Scarecrow
6.) Riddler
7.) Mr. Freeze
8.) Mad Hatter
9.) The Penguin
10.) Victor Zsasz

- Ra's is first because he has a personal score with Batman. He is the father that Bruce wants but their conflicting ideology will always stand between them. Talia complicates things further. Also, Ra's is Batman's most dangerous foe- on a global scale, I loved Death and the Maidens, but I want Ra's Al Ghul to return in a convincing way.

- Joker is number two because he has caused the most personal pain to Batman/Bruce Wayne. He also poses a serious threat to Gotham.

- Two-face is a great villain. He is a great villain emotionally because he almost is Batman, he just does things in the wrong way and puts himself at odds with his former ally.

- Bane is fourth as the only person to ever truly defeat Batman.

-R

[Arkady Rossovich]

Bump for discussion.

[ShadowBoxing]

Sorry gotta go with that Joker. Picking someone other than Joker would be like trying to say the Red Sox's main rivals aren't the Yankees.

[Cornelius Stirk]

I've always liked Mr.Zsasz, as underexposed as he is. Genuinely creepy, and almost realistic.

The original Ventriloquist is nice too.

[Finlandman]

1. Joker
2. Two-Face
3. Bane

[Orson_Randall]

Two Face

[Riven]

1) Joker
2) Two-Face
3) Ra's Al Ghul

Joker's the anti-thesis to Batman, with Harvey it's personal since they used to be friends and allies and Ra's Al Ghul is the perfect adversary.

and in a league of her own, Catwoman. she might be the one to prove the greatest threat of all, since she's the one Batman loves...

[zahanbil]

Hands down, Joker.

I don't believe Batman has ever struggled so much with trying not to kill someone. Joker lives to make Bats miserable and he always hits em' where it hurts the most.

Plus he's so freakin' hot... -Bias-

[Okami_shinobi]

Joker without a doubt.

He was the first pyschopath batman faced.(Well they do all end up in arkham)

Batman still to this day doesn't know who the Joker is! he just is.
and that makes him all the more dangerious.

Two face defo second read akham aslyum and you'll know why

[Amazing Afroman]

The Joker obviously.

[Amazing Afroman]

double post

[sclabguy]

The List For Me:
1. The Joker
2. Two Face
3. Ra's Al Ghul
4. Catwoman
5. Mr. Freeze
6. The Riddler
7. Scarecrow
8. The Mad Hatter
9. Scarface
10. Harley Quinn

[Faded To Deaf]

:joker:

The Joker.

[Dark Victory]

joker whouldn't count since hes the greatest villian of all time but anyway...two-face

[Ra'sAlGhulll]

Joker definitely since he is universally recognized as Batman's arch-enemy and stands for everything Batman is against. However, Ra's comes in at a close second because of his power and influence. Two-Face is also up there because he has a somewhat personal connection to the Batman...
Still the Joker hands down.

[BurningBallroom]

Joker.

[selinakyle415]

1: Joker.
2: Two-Face.
3: Ra's Al Ghul.
4: Catwoman.

[BATS N' HORNETS]

it's really interesting how similar a lot of them are to pulp masterminds

[Nathan Petrelli]

1. Two-Face/Joker
2. The Scarecrow
3. Bane
4. The Riddler
5. The Penguin

[Kevin Roegele]

The Joker is the greatest trickster character of 20h century fiction. The Joker is as strong a character as Batman.

Second best would have to be Two-Face, another superb character.

Third in line, I would suggest the Scarecrow.

[Nepenthes]

Bane is the guy that came from a prison on the other side of then planet in order to plan and execute Batmans downfall to a T, all for no other reason than to humiliate him simply because he exits. No revenge, no big idealisitc vision, no incomprehensible mental disorders at play. He simply wanted to take down the baddest mofo he could find. No one else has taken Batman out of play like that, or managed to test or upset his legacy with the same results, not even Ra's or Joker. To Batmans second greatest villain (Ra's Al Ghul) Bane is a heir more worthy than even the detective. Bane and the Joker are the only two to ever beat Ra's in a game of chess. Batman never beat Ra's in a game of chess did he? No. Bane is criminally underrated and under-used. Now that he's off the venom he should be smarter and more dangerous than ever. Instead writers have him moping around the planet looking for his daddy.

[Faded To Deaf]

Bane is defiantly underused, but keep in mind that The Joker, Two-Face and Ra's al Ghul have experience on their side. They have many great qualities and stories to their name, while Bane has so few.

Although he should be used more often, your right about that.

[DarkReflections]

1. Joker
2. Two-Face
3. Catwomen
4. Ra's al Ghul
5. Scarecrow
6. Black Mask
7. The Riddler

Joker is of coarse the greatist Batman villian, and also i just couldnt leave out Black Mask. Imo i think that guy is underrated and he shouldnt be.

[rzatherazor]

1. Two-Face
2. Joker
3. Hush
4. Ras Al Ghul
5. Bane

[Faded To Deaf]

I think we are all forgetting who is Batman's real nemesis;

Doctor Doom.

[KillerCroc]

Joker hands down. He is the most complex. True Arch-nemesis

[Chuckles]

Ummmmm... defiantly The Joker because he is pure psychotic awesomeness. And to think they planned to kill him in the first issue... Eh their loss. And in second i guess would be Scarecrow.

[Dark Vic Tory]

I would say greatest would definitely be Joker, though i personally like to read two-face material.

[Quinzel]

Oh, we're doing lists now?

1. The Joker
2. Harley Quinn
3. Ra's Al Ghul
4. Two-Face
5. Catwoman
6. Black Mask

And I must say, I've always been a fan of Clayface for some reason.

I agree, but Harley is tech. a hench-wench. But yeah, she should be taken serously as well.

[Johann Krauss]

Ra's would be my choice

[smartguy]

1. The Joker: He's the perfect villain (and the most fun to write as).
2. Two-Face: Ironically, he's number two on my list.
3. The Riddler: He's the greatest intellectual challenge.
4. Scarecrow: His powers over fear are dangerous.
5. Catwoman: Her fondness for being a temptress is dangerous.

[Majic Walrus]

The Joker is my favorite closely seconded by Scarecrow and Two-Face. I think the problem with the Joker these days is that everyone has an opinion on who he should be and therefore his character gets changed alot from comic to comic story to story. Otherwise he's still an amazing character and when he's done right it's a beautiful thing.

[Jick09]

Joker is the greatest, of course. and is also my favorite Batman villain:

1.Joker
2.Two-Face
3.Riddler
4.Bane
5.Scarecrow

[Nepenthes]

...

[Nepenthes]

Poison Ivy is a villain that can wipe the floor with other DC heroes though, for instance Superman and Green Lantern. Whereas the Joker, Two-Face, Riddler, they can't really do that. Joker slapped Lex Luthor around in Salvation Run but otherwise he's not a real threat to meta heroes of the DC universe unless he has god powers or something.

It was Scarecrow and Poison Ivy who had the idea to form a Secret Society of Supervillains, and they did it. From her earliest days Ivy's always been a member of supervillain teams, usually against the JLA, and this is an aspect that's COMPLETELY ignored within the Batman comics. Which is bunk because and I think it rounds out her character quite a bit. She's very much a terrorist villain for hire, she doesn't give a damn as long as she's getting paid and she's putting the domination on boyscout heroes and authority figures. This is far removed from the mother earth "the grass is crying out for me!" nonsense that most writers seem to get too carried away with. Feeling affinity with the grass and trees is a consequence of being connected to the Green, but even Swamp thing knows that humans and plants need to live in balance. Mostly I think the eco-warrior stuff is an excuse for her behaviour and a violent outlet for her confusion and rage. Even if she means well, it's misplaced, because she's only a human, swamped by her feelings. "Somewhere between obsession and passion, lies Poiison Ivy." - Hothouse

[Quinzel]

Joker.

I know it's what most people seem to think, and it's kind of a mainstreme thing, but that's not why i say he's the greatest.

It's because he is. And I love him.

THE END!!

[The Rizzler]

1) Two-Face

2) Joker

3) The Riddler

[ab38416]

For me it's the ones with a personal connection to Batman. So it's:

Joker, Ra's, Two-Face & Catwoman.

[margon]

Poison Ivy is a villain that can wipe the floor with other DC heroes though, for instance Superman and Green Lantern. Whereas the Joker, Two-Face, Riddler, they can't really do that. Joker slapped Lex Luthor around in Salvation Run but otherwise he's not a real threat to meta heroes of the DC universe unless he has god powers or something.

It was Scarecrow and Poison Ivy who had the idea to form a Secret Society of Supervillains, and they did it. From her earliest days Ivy's always been a member of supervillain teams, usually against the JLA, and this is an aspect that's COMPLETELY ignored within the Batman comics. Which is bunk because and I think it rounds out her character quite a bit. She's very much a terrorist villain for hire, she doesn't give a damn as long as she's getting paid and she's putting the domination on boyscout heroes and authority figures. This is far removed from the mother earth "the grass is crying out for me!" nonsense that most writers seem to get too carried away with. Feeling affinity with the grass and trees is a consequence of being connected to the Green, but even Swamp thing knows that humans and plants need to live in balance. Mostly I think the eco-warrior stuff is an excuse for her behaviour and a violent outlet for her confusion and rage. Even if she means well, it's misplaced, because she's only a human, swamped by her feelings. "Somewhere between obsession and passion, lies Poison Ivy." - Hothouse

Stabbing you with my Quew Eff Tee knife, the focused totality of my psychic agreement :up:. Ivy can wipe the floor with most other bat villains and rarely seems written to her fullest potential, future writers should emphasis the Suicide Squad and SSS background and leave the crying plants behind for a little while, which is usually just simplistic and shallow. That post sounds like something i would have written

[Two-Face=Badass]

Despite my preference of Mad Hatter and Two-Face, Ra's Al Ghul is easily the greatest Batman villain in my book. Really, he poses much more of a threat than the Joker, and ultimately the best villains are the ones who not only have a point, but honestly believe in their eyes that they are doing what's right.

[SuperFerret]

Poison Ivy is a villain that can wipe the floor with other DC heroes though, for instance Superman and Green Lantern. Whereas the Joker, Two-Face, Riddler, they can't really do that. Joker slapped Lex Luthor around in Salvation Run but otherwise he's not a real threat to meta heroes of the DC universe unless he has god powers or something.

It was Scarecrow and Poison Ivy who had the idea to form a Secret Society of Supervillains, and they did it. From her earliest days Ivy's always been a member of supervillain teams, usually against the JLA, and this is an aspect that's COMPLETELY ignored within the Batman comics. Which is bunk because and I think it rounds out her character quite a bit. She's very much a terrorist villain for hire, she doesn't give a damn as long as she's getting paid and she's putting the domination on boyscout heroes and authority figures. This is far removed from the mother earth "the grass is crying out for me!" nonsense that most writers seem to get too carried away with. Feeling affinity with the grass and trees is a consequence of being connected to the Green, but even Swamp thing knows that humans and plants need to live in balance. Mostly I think the eco-warrior stuff is an excuse for her behaviour and a violent outlet for her confusion and rage. Even if she means well, it's misplaced, because she's only a human, swamped by her feelings. "Somewhere between obsession and passion, lies Poiison Ivy." - Hothouse

Stabbing you with my Quew Eff Tee knife, the focused totality of my psychic agreement :up:. Ivy can wipe the floor with most other bat villains and rarely seems written to her fullest potential, future writers should emphasis the Suicide Squad and SSS background and leave the crying plants behind for a little while, which is usually just simplistic and shallow. That post sounds like something i would have written

I know it's old, but that's such a load. The Joker has proven to be more than enough trouble for the DCU as a whole, even without god powers. He just focuses on Batman because Bruce provides him with the best audience.

[Two-Face=Badass]

I know it's old, but that's such a load. The Joker has proven to be more than enough trouble for the DCU as a whole, even without god powers. He just focuses on Batman because Bruce provides him with the best audience.
I agree that Joker is a threat to metas, but I also join the crowd in saying that Poison Ivy deserves much more respect. Her powers logically could cause so much damage and she really deserves a good story in Batman of Tec one day.

Also SuperFerret I love your sig, but I think you should add a question mark to the end given how G'Nort was all like "-Wait that's not it!" moment there.

[Temple Fugate]

0. Clock King
0.5. Egghead
1. Calendar Man
2. Film Freak
3. Crazy Quilt

[The Joker]

0. Clock King
0.5. Egghead
1. Calendar Man
2. Film Freak
3. Crazy Quilt

:D

Please, I'd love to hear your reasoning behind your choices.

[saska83]

1. Joker
2. Catwoman
3. Ra`s Al Gul

[Faded To Deaf]

Bane is obviously not on the Joker's level, but I really think he deserves a lot of respect. I would love to see a two hour movie of him as a villain.

[The Joker]

I like Bane, but I always felt his victory over Batman was a bit of a cheat. Had he broken Batman when Batman was at his peak, it would have been more impressive.

Instead he decided to fight Batman when he was worn down physically and emotionally from fighting every inmate in Arkham that he had freed. The state Batman was in by the end, The Penguin probably could have beaten him up.

[Ace of Knaves]

^ Very true. But then you could credit Bane for having the intellect to have other villains wear Batman down for him. That's why I like Bane, he is obviously physically a match for Batman, but also very clever.

But still, Joker all the way. :hoboj:

[Faded To Deaf]

I like Bane, but I always felt his victory over Batman was a bit of a cheat. Had he broken Batman when Batman was at his peak, it would have been more impressive.

Instead he decided to fight Batman when he was worn down physically and emotionally from fighting every inmate in Arkham that he had freed. The state Batman was in by the end, The Penguin probably could have beaten him up.

Merely a technicality, one Batman has used to defeat his enemies numerous times.

However, you are right about it being more impressive show of ability had he done it at his peak, but think how hard it would be to write if he was able to beat Batman at his peak in the future.

Besides, it seems to showed a more intelligent side to him, using pawns and Batman's overconfidence, and showed that he's not just a juiced up Killer Croc in a cool mask.

EDIT: Don't forget in TDK, Joker used criminals, dogs, nets, hostages and more to even be a match for Batman. Bane basically did the same thing.

[margon]

I know it's old, but that's such a load. The Joker has proven to be more than enough trouble for the DCU as a whole, even without god powers. He just focuses on Batman because Bruce provides him with the best audience.

when?

you don't see the Joker taking out Green Lantern and Superman like it ain't no thang and plotting world takeovers with the SSS. All he's good at is killing ordinary humans and teasing batman. Any meta-level threats he does provide own mainly to his popularity as a character (Salvation Run), not because of his inherent character.

[The Joker]

Merely a technicality, one Batman has used to defeat his enemies numerous times.

Yes, but Batman didn't go around crowing that he was superior in every way to his enemies. Batman has admitted many times his shortcomings. I've even seen him say the Penguin is more intelligent than him. It's Penguin's obsessions that trip him up.

Bane's plan was clever and an obvious winning strategy to beat Batman. But it's easy to kick a dog when it's down. Especially when you're using a chemical to pump up your muscles.

And as Jean Paul Valley showed, Bane was not all that when faced with an enemy at his peak.

[Faded To Deaf]

Joker did the same thing in TDK.

[The Joker]

Joker did the same thing in TDK.

Did what?

[Faded To Deaf]

Did what?

In TDK, Joker used criminals, dogs, nets, and hostages to match Batman in a fight. Bane basically did the same thing.

[The Joker]

In TDK, Joker used criminals, dogs, nets, and hostages to match Batman in a fight. Bane basically did the same thing.

LOL! Mate, that's no different to the comics. Joker is no physical match for Batman. Most of the rogues gallery are not a physical match for him.

[Temple Fugate]

:D

Please, I'd love to hear your reasoning behind your choices.

Clock King: A terrible fighter but because he knows the timing of punches and what not he can still win.

Egghead: this one whould be eggstreamly obvious

Calendar Man: YOU KNOW WHEN HE IS GOING TO ATTACK, but he still does it.

Film Freak: Deduced Catwomans identity nuff said.

Crazy Quilt: LAZERS PEW PEW PEW

[Rasputin911]

Maxie Zeus...hands down


But after him, i'd say it goes Joker...Two-Face...Penguin

[SuperFerret]

when?

you don't see the Joker taking out Green Lantern and Superman like it ain't no thang and plotting world takeovers with the SSS. All he's good at is killing ordinary humans and teasing batman. Any meta-level threats he does provide own mainly to his popularity as a character (Salvation Run), not because of his inherent character.

The Joker doesn't go taking out the higher powered guys like any high powered villain does. He's smart, he's sneaky and he's positively insane. There's a reason he's Batman's opposite number. Aside from Emporer Joker, which we're ignoring based on the "no SuperJoker" clause, he's caused widespread trouble for the DC heroes during the Last Laugh story, he lashed out after not being included in the Secret Society and killed a few villains, and he's threatened the world itself by trying at least twice to kill members of the UN. He's as dangerous to the DCU as Lex Luthor is, and Luthor frequently comes up with schemes that threaten heroes outside his usual foe, Superman.

The only difference is that the Joker isn't after power, if he even has a goal at all, it's that he just wants to make life hell for Batman and Jim Gordon.

[ab38416]

Anyone else think Hugo Strange is underrated?

[p4poetic]

Looks like Two Face is [a distant] second place.

I don't consider Harley Quinn a villain, I just don't.

[Duskbyday]

My fav: (apart from Joker) is actually Mr.Freeze, but with Black Mask and TwoFace close behind.

Greatest are:
1-Joker: Obviously
2-Rhas A Ghul: Eco-terrorist, imortal. Definatly is bad ass
3-TwoFace: Whole jeckly hyde thing and my friend my enemy business
4-Catwoman: Smexy but deadly!
5-Black Mask: Controls 90% of Gotham's crime.
6-Bane: Smart, strong, backbreaker
7-Riddler: Super, super, supersmart!
8-Poison Ivy: pure cold hearted female dog
9-Pengers: corny crimelord=kl
10-Mr.Freeze/Scarecrow

[Spider-Zero]

Can't believe it's even up for debate. Joker obviously.:hoboj:

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Joker's nice and all, but I have a special fondness for Killer Moth. He's just a loveable loser. It's blasphemy he's not in the poll!.:oldrazz:

[CaptainClown]

wtf why is crazy quilt not on this list?

[Two-Face=Badass]

Joker's nice and all, but I have a special fondness for Killer Moth. He's just a loveable loser. It's blasphemy he's not in the poll!.:oldrazz:
This.

I think I have been born again as a Killer Moth fan recently. Between Robin and Batgirl's Year Ones respectively, Shadow of the Bat 5-8, Lego Batman as well as The Batman's and Teen Titans hilarious portrayals of him I can't not put him on a top rogue list.

It's really aggravating and typical of DC really, that when they have such a great source of comedy like Killer Moth, they decide to revamp him as that stupid Charaxes crap to be "hardcore" :cmad:

Whatever, I'll just pretend the new Killer Moth is the old one.