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Hypestyle
08-02-2006, 10:45 AM
Looks like a new, straight-to-dvd Spider-Man cartoon series is being developed by Sony Films. It will be 13 episodes. I guess they’re aiming for next year to release this. Since this will be straight-to-dvd, there presumably won’t be any production issues with network restrictions—so maybe the action can be a lot more intense, and closer to the comics.
No word on if they’re going to ‘continue’ from the previous MTV show, or start over again.
hopefully they start over.... maybe retell his origins in a revamped 2 part episode premiere? they never really did that for spidey in the 90s like they did with the rest of the toons. except that one episode where he meets the little girl in season 3
James"007"Bond
08-02-2006, 10:55 AM
I have a feeling that this one will be screwd up too. Why? Because they're not making this series out of a sincere desire to create a decent spidey cartoon that improves on the weaknesses of the previous animated shows. This is merely done to cash in on the release of the 3rd movie and for no other reason at all.
Visionary
08-02-2006, 12:07 PM
You make a lot of sense. And that should be their goal, if they want people to demand more episodes on DVD. I wonder if they'll show this on TV/Cable at all. But I'll still check it out.
James"007"Bond
08-02-2006, 12:34 PM
Yeah definately. I'll be buying this if it looks good but I hope my fears dont come true and sony actually put in the effort to make a very interesting and enjoyable series. If that is the case and people respond well to it, I dont see why we shouldn't get more episodes.
spider greg
08-02-2006, 01:06 PM
I'm pretty excited to hear about this.:up: I'm just wondering if it's going to be like Avengers, and be based on the Ultimate line. I wouldn't mind it, but I would prefer a regular universe Spidey, especially with a Romita look to it. I hope they get the the Peter Parker look right also, he looked way off in the 90's series.
Casius--J
08-02-2006, 01:06 PM
Im pumped for this, i've been wanting a new series ever since the fox episodes got cancelled. I didnt like the mtv episodes they were so bland.
Hopefully this one will be more stylised and the lack of restrictions are shown in the final product. mainly i want more violence, thought that was always lackin in every spidey cartoon.
GhostPoet
08-02-2006, 01:43 PM
I think it's a very good sign they are doing a direct to DVD. Usually the only reason they do that is because it's too mature to be put onto a Fox 4 Kids lineup.
James"007"Bond
08-02-2006, 01:56 PM
I think it's a very good sign they are doing a direct to DVD. Usually the only reason they do that is because it's too mature to be put onto a Fox 4 Kids lineup.
Thats still no excuse. We had the 90s TAS, x-men, x-men evolution, batman tas, justice league etc. There have been some pretty impressive shows, spider-man deserves the same treatment of handeling and care that doesn't hinder it from being aired on tv.
DACrowe
08-02-2006, 02:04 PM
I would put Spider-Man TAS as one of the best, even if censored to death and some poorly written episodes here and there.
Do I think we should get another close to the comics? Sure. Will it be made only for money, yep just like all cartoons are really.
spahn
08-02-2006, 02:04 PM
i am as pumped as anyone here to learn that a new spidey DVD is being produced, but my question is, why don't they also release the 90s cartoons as well. they have released 4 (i think) DVD of the 90s cartoon, why don't they release them ALL!??!
theyve released 5 or 6
Ultimate Villain Showdown
Return of the Green Goblin
Spider-Man Vs. Daredevil
Spider-Man Vs. Doc Ock
The Venom Saga
CaptainStacy
08-02-2006, 02:54 PM
If Sony had any sense, they'd snatch up Bruce Timm, who just finished up the excellent Justice league cartoon.
They should just hand the show completely over to HIM, and let him go totally ape-****, like he did with Batman: TAS....i think with Timm in charge of a new Spidey toon, the 90's series would quickly become a distant memory.
Anyway, as long as it's not an adaption of the Ultimate version, i'll probably check it out.
hmm.. Isnt timm supervising WB animations justice league/superman DTVs right now though?
CaptainStacy
08-02-2006, 03:21 PM
hmm.. Isnt timm supervising WB animations justice league/superman DTVs right now though?
Not sure. I wonder if he could do both?
hes bruce timm OF COURSE he could :/ but I know they revealed at comicon that hes "overseeing" some WB animation projects.
<(o_o)>
08-02-2006, 05:35 PM
I hope they don't use the thin & lengthy Spider-Man from the Mtv series. I want to see a bulkier Spider-Man like he was in the 80's & 90's cartoon series only in the costume from the movies.
GoldGoblin
08-02-2006, 05:44 PM
I hope they don't make up villains in this series.
Thirteen Shadows
08-02-2006, 05:55 PM
I wonder if its based on 616 or Ultimate.
UltimateJustin
08-02-2006, 08:41 PM
Its a testament to just how uninspired and poorly planned the mtv show was that it could get cancelled so quickly at a time when Spiderman is at his most popular ever. For some reason execs think anime style is the only thing kids want to watch, but they never put anything else out there to test that theory. A DTV series? That doesnt even make sense, just make movies..
Gamma Burst
08-02-2006, 09:03 PM
I'll be getting it,but I do hope it's not based on the Ultimate line
as long as they used the kid that voiced peter/spidey in the USM game to do peter.. I would be fine with an ultimate cartoon.. it would go well with the ultimate avengers movies....
James"007"Bond
08-03-2006, 01:31 AM
hmm.. Isnt timm supervising WB animations justice league/superman DTVs right now though?
Even if thats the case, all sony have to do is wave a fat-ass pay cheque thats too big to turn down, which in turn is peanuts compared to the returns they'll get.
James"007"Bond
08-03-2006, 01:33 AM
I wonder if its based on 616 or Ultimate.
If its 616 spidey, I'd love for either zach Braf (sp?) or Will friedel to do the voice of peter/spidey.
If its ultimate, well they can get any teenage punk kid to do the voice, most of them sound the same anyway.
GoldGoblin
08-03-2006, 01:45 AM
Wasn't there a Hobgoblin 3-D clip that someone was working on that was suppose to be for this show?If it was,then it looks like there not going to do ultimate,which is a good thing.
Untilteld
08-03-2006, 01:55 AM
I wanna see Venom in this series, we got ripped off in the MTV one. Which was great still though, but it shouldn't of been cancelled.:( :down
I hope they don't make up villains in this series.
God, that's probably the trend that I hate most about any given show. I couldn't stand the MTV series because the episodes just had lame villains that they made up instead of using real villains. (except for an emo Electro in the pilot.)
The 60's and 80's shows (and the live action show) did that all the time, too. WHY? You should NEVER have to make up bland villains for Spider-Man's universe. Come on now. The 90's series is the only one that made nearly full use of Spidey's rogues gallery.
November Rain
08-03-2006, 05:26 AM
they need to stop making spidey cartoons, i'm growing sick of them, there are plenty of other characters in marvel that would have good series but they keep bashing out spidey ones, it's getting boring....
:o
GoldGoblin
08-03-2006, 06:05 AM
they need to stop making spidey cartoons, i'm growing sick of them, there are plenty of other characters in marvel that would have good series but they keep bashing out spidey ones, it's getting boring....
:o
^:mad: Noooooooooooo,they need to keep making them.
Green Goblin 1964
08-03-2006, 07:23 AM
i hope they get venom and all the other classic spidey villains.
November Rain
08-03-2006, 08:19 AM
^:mad: Noooooooooooo,they need to keep making them.dude, i'm pretty sick of spidey being everywhere i go, especially where there are classic heroes that never get any type of shot.
they need to lay off the cliche, spidey, x-men, fantastic four and hulk based cartoons and move on to something else, at least for a while...
Hypestyle
08-03-2006, 09:28 AM
God, that's probably the trend that I hate most about any given show. I couldn't stand the MTV series because the episodes just had lame villains that they made up instead of using real villains. (except for an emo Electro in the pilot.)
The 60's and 80's shows (and the live action show) did that all the time, too. WHY? You should NEVER have to make up bland villains for Spider-Man's universe. Come on now. The 90's series is the only one that made nearly full use of Spidey's rogues gallery.
If Bruce Timm was involved, perhaps the ‘made up' villains could actually be cool, ala Harley Quinn, and he could revamp some of the lesser/B-list Spidey rogues... which ones would you pick for ‘remixing'?
The Caped Knight
08-03-2006, 10:53 AM
Looks like a new, straight-to-dvd Spider-Man cartoon series is being developed by Sony Films. It will be 13 episodes. I guess they’re aiming for next year to release this. Since this will be straight-to-dvd, there presumably won’t be any production issues with network restrictions—so maybe the action can be a lot more intense, and closer to the comics.
No word on if they’re going to ‘continue’ from the previous MTV show, or start over again.
SOB, Why Can't Sony release The 90's Spider-man on dvd .:confused: :mad: :spidey:
Chris Wallace
08-03-2006, 11:15 AM
Let's wait & see what they're planning to do, before we rip it apart for what we hope they DON'T do.
kooguy911
08-03-2006, 01:15 PM
i wonder if they are going to release these as an entire season in 1 pack, or seperatley.
Chris Wallace
08-03-2006, 01:33 PM
dude, i'm pretty sick of spidey being everywhere i go, especially where there are classic heroes that never get any type of shot.
they need to lay off the cliche, spidey, x-men, fantastic four and hulk based cartoons and move on to something else, at least for a while...
They're promoting their best-known properties b/c they know those will have an audience. And it's not like other characters haven't been given their shot. Do you want WB to stop putting out cartoons w/Batman & Superman? I say, build an audience w/your big guns, then work on the second-stringers.
Chris Wallace
08-03-2006, 01:41 PM
i wonder if they are going to release these as an entire season in 1 pack, or seperatley.
Possibly both.
GoldGoblin
08-03-2006, 01:55 PM
If they did the black costume for this season or a later season,do you think they would give us the black looking costume from the movie,or the one from the comics?
Chris Wallace
08-03-2006, 02:13 PM
Too soon to tell.
kooguy911
08-03-2006, 03:10 PM
im guessing it will be coming out around the time of the movie, so my guess would be looking like the movie, considering its being made by sony.
BUT, if its not based anything on the movies, and if it has its own story and its own look of characters, then yes, symbiote spiderman will look different of course.
Another subject that has been partially discussed is voice acting. If the cartoon is anything based on the movie, do you think they will get some movie voice actors? The 2 new Hellboy animated movies have the live action voices, with Ron Perlman and basically the entire cast. Will spiderman do that?
GoldGoblin
08-03-2006, 03:18 PM
The only actors that I see that would want to do the voices for the cartoon would be J.K. Simmons.It be cool if Nicholas Hammond did the voice of Peter/spidey.
Chris Wallace
08-03-2006, 04:09 PM
No it wouldn't.
GoldGoblin
08-03-2006, 04:24 PM
No it wouldn't.
^Why not?
Chris Wallace
08-03-2006, 04:57 PM
That'd be like getting Adam West to voice Batman; he's too old & the show is not something they should pay tribute to.
GoldGoblin
08-03-2006, 05:17 PM
The 90's cartoon had 13 episodes for each season,and one season had 11,so this looks like this show will have the same.Hopefully from that cartoon and from movies,writers will know what stories are good,and what aren't.
tzarinna
08-03-2006, 05:55 PM
I can't wait until they give us some more info on what they plan on doing
GoldGoblin
08-03-2006, 06:01 PM
I hope some other spidey villains make it into this that didn't make the 90's cartoon,like the Sandman,the Jackal,the Beetle,Man-Wolf,and Molten Man.
kooguy911
08-03-2006, 07:37 PM
im not excited about molten man.. but i know im excited for venom and doc ock
DACrowe
08-03-2006, 08:28 PM
Hope it lives up to the '90s cartoon, because the MTV one sure didn't. I mean the '90s one had a lot of problems and I would love to see a more mature adaptation of the violence and love stories, one that would include Gwen this time (though I liked the inclusion of Felica from the beginning in TAS, they could take a nod from that) and go a little further with villains like Carnage, the Lizard and Kingpin.
You can also introduce second-stringers into plots and hope for spinoffs. Marvel did that to promote Iron Man while running in Spider-Man and Hulk appeared in FF to promote the new Hulk cartoon coming out (both were cancelled though) and after the two-episode stint Daredevil was supposed to have his own "more mature" cartoon on Fox for teenagers but they only made one episode from what I hear and it got shelved.
But we'll see how this does then.
DACrowe
08-03-2006, 08:31 PM
P.S. Certain voice actors MUST be used. Christopher Barnes is without a doubt the best voice actor to ever play Spider-Man and should be back, I'd also like to see what's his name back as Doctor Octopus and if they bring back Felica/Black Cat, than Jennifer Hale should defiently voice her. And before you say you can't use the same voice actors, the N64/PS1 game that came out based on the comics in 2000 (the Neversoft one) used the same Doc Ock and Black Cat as I mentioned because they were that good. However they used Romina for Spidey and it didn't work as well in my opinion.
GoldGoblin
08-04-2006, 04:52 AM
I bet they will use Sandman as the first villain in this series,since he wasn't in the 90's cartoon,and because he is the main villain in the third movie.
November Rain
08-04-2006, 05:38 AM
They're promoting their best-known properties b/c they know those will have an audience. And it's not like other characters haven't been given their shot. Do you want WB to stop putting out cartoons w/Batman & Superman? I say, build an audience w/your big guns, then work on the second-stringers.as a business man, instead of going for a clear sale, i would be trying to advertise my other products to get them into the main stream as well so that i would have a larger overall market rather than a monumental few. It's not like marvel don't have plenty of stories to tell with other characters....
and yeah, actually i think for the same reason that they should chill with the bats and superman cartoons as well,i would love to have some green latern cartoons and i liked the fact they brought teen titans into the mix as well as static shock as well as fleshing out other characters with the justice league unlimited.
I mean the avengers, biggest affiliation in marvel don't even have their own modern day cartoon series (not the ultimates which has overtaken them), how pathetic is that.
I honestly don't want another take again on spidey in modern times with a modern version of his story being told. i feel like it happens every five years (if that).
let's have some thor, iron man, luck and cage, namor, maybe an age of apocalypse animated series, some captain america, DAREDEVIL FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
so many characters are being neglected, heck even the spidey we are viewing is an outdated character from the 60s rehashed for modern times, the spideys we are seeing these days isn't even a reflection of the character that is in the comics now. If they really wanted to help their business they would be portraying a similar style to modern times, just like they did with the animated 90s series at the time releasing similar story lines to those that were coming out in the comics (clone saga, spider-carnage), but it isn't going to happen, they'll start from the beginning again (again (again)).
i say give up the ghost.
Tokage
08-04-2006, 10:39 AM
This is great news, but only if:
1. This new series is not Ultimate Spider-Man. An updated Spidey is OK, but the actual Ultimate universe has too many quirks (eg: monster Green Goblin, clone Carnage, Pete dating Kitty Pryde) that don't belong in a Spidey cartoon.
2. This new series is not related to the 2003 MTV Spidey series. There were some creative ideas in that series, but it suffered because of the network's target audience and poor writing.
3. This new series isn't directly limited by what's happened in the movies or in the recent comics. Although the character design and storylines could tie in with the movies, there shouldn't be a concrete connection. So if Pete and MJ get married in the SM3 movie, this should NOT be the case in the new animated series. Likewise, since Spidey has revealed his secret identity in the comics, this obviously should not be part of the new series either.
-And how about bringing back the mechanical webshooters while we're at it?
4. The direct-to-DVD format should be used to deliver a more mature, yet not pretentiously "edgy" storyline. Hopefully the animation art quality will be much higher than what's been seen on the recent Ultimate Avengers 2 DVD.
So there's the challenge - let's see if they're up to it.
DACrowe
08-04-2006, 04:47 PM
Um, Marvel did have a big run of cartoons in the '90s. They had X-Men, then Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Iron Man and Hulk and they even made a pilot to a more mature (teens and up) DAredevil cartoon after his spot on the Spider-Man TAS but Fox didn't pick it up. They then did Silver Surfer and an Avengers cartoon (which was attrotious btw) and the lousy Spidey Unlimited.
So no they just don't do Spider-Man and X-Men cartoons but of all those....which were the ones that stuck? Spider-Man and X-Men, FF and Iron Man faded into oblivion, Hulk only did okay and was yanked after 2 seasons as well and Avengers just plain bombed which in turn killed Silver Surfer.
Marvel turned its attention to movies and since then we've had a lousy X-Men cartoon (X-Men: Evolution) and a lousy Spider-Man cartoon (MTV) neither of which lasted long (Evolution 3 seasons, MTV one measley season) so now after the movies are hits they're going back.
I think it would be great to get a new Spider-Man animated series on Cartoon Network, maybe adult swim (though not too mature just allow a little cursing, sexual tension possibly, PUNCHING) and just try and a straight adaptation of the Spidey timeline from origin, to Gwen Stacy dying, to the rest of the whole shabang.
If that succeeds maybe then they can try edgier stuff for adult swim, like a dark Frank Miller-esque DD show.
We'll see though.
kooguy911
08-05-2006, 01:02 PM
this will get its own sub form one day, if we post enough about it.
I think they should do an online poll to choose the voice of Spidey/PP
or... bette ryet
Get barnes to do it again!!!!
DACrowe
08-05-2006, 02:34 PM
Yeah he was much better than Riney....or....Dougey HOwser (oy, who coulda' thought that was a good idea), really.
the dude that did unlimited is voice batman now anyway....
DACrowe
08-06-2006, 12:50 AM
Yeah, and yet again inferior to the '90s TAS voicing counterpart then.
Spider-Kurt!
08-06-2006, 04:15 PM
I'd love to see animated versions of...
the original Hobgoblin storyline from ASM 238-251
ASM 216-217(I think) Sandman vs Hydroman
pg-13 rated versions of Carnage,the Punisher and Morbius.
ASM Annual 20 Scorpion vs JJJ on Jameson's wedding day
hopefully other comic book classics villians...
(namely)
Doc Ock
Venom
Mysterio
the Vulture
Electro
Kraven the Hunter
The Lizard
Chameleon
Black Cat
Rhino
Shocker
Kingpin(not as much as on the 90's series though)
I'm trying to think of newer villians and stories that I particularly want to see.
Arcturus
08-06-2006, 04:23 PM
This does sound interesting, i'll make sure to check it out.
GoldGoblin
08-07-2006, 06:00 PM
I hope this comes out before the movie comes out.
deathshead2
08-07-2006, 06:01 PM
I hope this isn't rushed like that first ultimate avenger movie. But 2 was good.
James"007"Bond
08-08-2006, 04:39 AM
dude, i'm pretty sick of spidey being everywhere i go, especially where there are classic heroes that never get any type of shot.
they need to lay off the cliche, spidey, x-men, fantastic four and hulk based cartoons and move on to something else, at least for a while...
The reason why they dont do what you would want them to do is because, the spideys, hulks and x-men are the most iconic front runners and the most recognisable that bring in viewers and ultimately the cheddar.
CaptainStacy
08-08-2006, 03:56 PM
as a business man, instead of going for a clear sale, i would be trying to advertise my other products to get them into the main stream as well so that i would have a larger overall market rather than a monumental few. It's not like marvel don't have plenty of stories to tell with other characters....
and yeah, actually i think for the same reason that they should chill with the bats and superman cartoons as well,i would love to have some green latern cartoons and i liked the fact they brought teen titans into the mix as well as static shock as well as fleshing out other characters with the justice league unlimited.
I mean the avengers, biggest affiliation in marvel don't even have their own modern day cartoon series (not the ultimates which has overtaken them), how pathetic is that.
I honestly don't want another take again on spidey in modern times with a modern version of his story being told. i feel like it happens every five years (if that).
let's have some thor, iron man, luck and cage, namor, maybe an age of apocalypse animated series, some captain america, DAREDEVIL FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
so many characters are being neglected, heck even the spidey we are viewing is an outdated character from the 60s rehashed for modern times, the spideys we are seeing these days isn't even a reflection of the character that is in the comics now. If they really wanted to help their business they would be portraying a similar style to modern times, just like they did with the animated 90s series at the time releasing similar story lines to those that were coming out in the comics (clone saga, spider-carnage), but it isn't going to happen, they'll start from the beginning again (again (again)).
i say give up the ghost.
Take heart;
Fantastic Four, Iron Man, and Wolverine are all currently on the way.
Silverstein
08-08-2006, 04:05 PM
This would be good but I'm affraid they're going to overuse certain characters. Green Goblin isn't that cool. Not at all. In fact, Chameleon was spidey's first villain....Not GG. So if anyone in spidey's history have a longer past with him it would be Chameleon.
I think the first few villains should be those we hardly ever see in tv and stuff. It should be Kraven, chameleon, etc....
Then afterwards we should start to see venom and hobgoblin..people like that.
The animation should be smooth and pleasing to the eyes. If it looks like Ultimate Avengers...I'm not watching it. Because that just looks like GI Joe with photoshop. The art just looks so bad. And I don't want it to look like justice league either, because I think it should have an original design. So no Teen Titans or whatever...just look like itself.
As for voices, if it's 616 spidey then they should bring back Christopher Daniel Barnes.
If it's ultimate then the kid from the game...
Bruce Campbell should do some kind of cameo.
Silverstein
08-08-2006, 04:07 PM
dude, i'm pretty sick of spidey being everywhere i go, especially where there are classic heroes that never get any type of shot.
they need to lay off the cliche, spidey, x-men, fantastic four and hulk based cartoons and move on to something else, at least for a while...
For someone who is seeing so much spidey, you're not helping it by coming to a spidey "world" board.
Chris Wallace
08-08-2006, 04:44 PM
Quite true.
Chris Wallace
08-08-2006, 04:46 PM
I bet they will use Sandman as the first villain in this series,since he wasn't in the 90's cartoon,and because he is the main villain in the third movie.
1-I'm not so sure he's the main villain.
2-it's Cameron's fault we never saw Baker in the 90's; Fox was told they couldn't use him b/c he was to be a major player in the movie that never happened.
Ruthmarks
08-11-2006, 03:53 PM
Glad to hear that a new Spider-Man series is finally in the works, although I'm very curious as to whether Sony is going to connect it to the films (much like the failed MTV version) or go the route of Ultimate now that the Avengers cartoons have been released.
In any case, it'll be nice to have all the episodes on a single DVD. :)
SolidSnake
08-15-2006, 08:41 PM
I hope they finish Spider-Man Unlimited, that would kick ass. Or maybe the 94-98 series.
Or make an entire new show using his Ultimate look and the same art style as in the Ultimate Spider-Man video game.
spideylover89
08-16-2006, 04:17 AM
If Sony had any sense, they'd snatch up Bruce Timm, who just finished up the excellent Justice league cartoon.
They should just hand the show completely over to HIM, and let him go totally ape-****, like he did with Batman: TAS....i think with Timm in charge of a new Spidey toon, the 90's series would quickly become a distant memory.
Anyway, as long as it's not an adaption of the Ultimate version, i'll probably check it out.
Took the words right out of my mouth! :up:
Batman TAS was the best superhero cartoon and he would kick all sorts of ass on a spidey toon. At least we'd actually see spidey throw a punch once in a while.
spideylover89
08-16-2006, 04:18 AM
I hope they finish Spider-Man Unlimited, that would kick ass.
:dry:
kooguy911
08-16-2006, 12:02 PM
yeah im not uh, too thrilled about the unlimited series either....
but this DTV series has the potential of being great, because its not limited in any way.
It would be cool to have cuss words in it, blood, actual fights,
it has a chance because its not limited by television
Chris Wallace
08-16-2006, 02:32 PM
It would be cool to have cuss words in it, blood
:down
The Caped Knight
08-16-2006, 02:35 PM
Took the words right out of my mouth! :up:
Batman TAS was the best superhero cartoon and he would kick all sorts of ass on a spidey toon. At least we'd actually see spidey throw a punch once in a while.
not was IS
BATMAN : THE ANIMATED SERIES IS THE BEST SUPERHERO TV SHOW EVER :batman:
yeah im not uh, too thrilled about the unlimited series either....
but this DTV series has the potential of being great, because its not limited in any way.
It would be cool to have cuss words in it, blood, actual fights,
it has a chance because its not limited by television
so curse and swear words make a good show for you? not character and plot development?
Sorry if I seem a bit nitpicky. I may have misunderstood your statement :P
Chris Wallace
08-16-2006, 04:22 PM
It did sound that way.
SolidSnake
08-16-2006, 05:14 PM
I guess I'm the only guy that likes the Spider-Man Unlimited show, oh well. At least I got all the episodes on my computer, it took long week for it though.
I like the spider-man unlimited show.... I think.. I dont remember much about it.. werent there talking monkeys and stuff.. that was weird...
I want a Spider-man2099 show :/
SolidSnake
08-16-2006, 05:39 PM
I like the spider-man unlimited show.... I think.. I dont remember much about it.. werent there talking monkeys and stuff.. that was weird...
I want a Spider-man2099 show :/
All kinds of talking animals, animals ruled the Counter-Earth and Humans were the lower class.
Cyrusbales
08-16-2006, 05:40 PM
not was IS
BATMAN : THE ANIMATED SERIES IS THE BEST SUPERHERO TV SHOW EVER :batman:
are we forgetting the Spawn animated series?
November Rain
08-17-2006, 02:46 AM
The reason why they dont do what you would want them to do is because, the spideys, hulks and x-men are the most iconic front runners and the most recognisable that bring in viewers and ultimately the cheddar.they only reason they bring the cheddar is because someone took a chance with them back in the day.
why can't someone take a chance with the other teams and heroes so they have more heroes in this 'iconic' frontline.
November Rain
08-17-2006, 02:49 AM
Take heart;
Fantastic Four, Iron Man, and Wolverine are all currently on the way.the fantastic four, iron man and wolverine have all been seen numerous times in different animated formats.
they are all tarnished with the same brush, especially with older viewers which will have their favourite renditions of them cemented in their minds and the cartoons will forever be a cheap imitation of what has come.
perhaps i've judged them harshly but some of those old, ff, spidey, hulk, x-men, evolution,ff and iron man cartoons were damn good. :o
November Rain
08-17-2006, 02:55 AM
For someone who is seeing so much spidey, you're not helping it by coming to a spidey "world" board.how else would you expect me to express my views on a topic i saw via using the 'new post' button. :)
i don't see how commenting on a board has anything to do with trying to push other heroes in other mediums :confused:
i mean how it is going to be when there are 17 different spidey animated shows that have been released?
ask the average outsider to name 10 different single heroes/affilations in marvel and wont have a clue?
i'm just making a point that there is a concentrated saturation of certain products and it's totally unecessary.
are we forgetting the Spawn animated series?
yes.. yes we are. Batman TAS reigns supreme
Happenstance
08-17-2006, 12:30 PM
I did like the Batman animated series but I still prefer 90s Spidey overall
Chris Wallace
08-17-2006, 01:17 PM
not was IS
BATMAN : THE ANIMATED SERIES IS THE BEST SUPERHERO TV SHOW EVER :batman:
Character preferences prohibit me from fully endorsing that statement.:spidey:
Honestly, I think the 90's X-Men is best overall.
SolidSnake
08-17-2006, 02:46 PM
I still think Spider-Man Unlimited is one of the best.
Happenstance
08-17-2006, 02:49 PM
I still think Spider-Man Unlimited is one of the best.
:eek:
The Caped Knight
08-17-2006, 03:18 PM
I still think Spider-Man Unlimited is one of the best.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Word of advice SS,...... RUN !!!!!
Green Goblin 1964
08-17-2006, 04:35 PM
I still think Spider-Man Unlimited is one of the best...........W.................T................ .eff?......:eek: :down
SolidSnake
08-17-2006, 05:44 PM
What? I don't know why, its just my favorite animated show and I wish there were more.
Cyrusbales
08-18-2006, 01:37 PM
90's spiderman is awesome, as it Batman TAS, but how can anyone deny Spawn the animated series as the all time greatest? It's better than all other animated series, and better than most live action superhero films!
Chris Wallace
08-18-2006, 02:48 PM
I like the spider-man unlimited show.... I think.. I dont remember much about it.. werent there talking monkeys and stuff.. that was weird...
I want a Spider-man2099 show :/
:down
Chris Wallace
08-18-2006, 02:51 PM
90's spiderman is awesome, as it Batman TAS, but how can anyone deny Spawn the animated series as the all time greatest? It's better than all other animated series, and better than most live action superhero films!
Just because it was gorier & had profanity doesn't make it better. I liked the first season but after that it sucked.
Cyrusbales
08-18-2006, 02:54 PM
Just because it was gorier & had profanity doesn't make it better. I liked the first season but after that it sucked.
I've got the first two series, and altho it was gory, the stlye of animation was what made it awesome! Not to mention the volume of depth in the Spawn character! It was like hours of amazing artwork, with a brilliant story, that's why I love I1.
Chris Wallace
08-18-2006, 03:01 PM
I could never really get into Spawn. I mean, he lives in a frickin' alley, has awesome powers but can't use them, he's burnt up worse than Freddy Krueger, has agents of heaven AND hell trying to kill him, everybody he ever thought was his friend has betrayed him-his life just plain sucks! Not to mention 2 things I could never get my head around:
1-Malebolgia empowered him to be his servant. Spawn defies Malebolgia & uses said powers against him. Why can't Malebolgia just take them back?
2-Al was gone for 5 years. Cyan speaks in perfect sentences, which would make her at least 4. When the hell did Terry make his move? At the funeral?
Cyrusbales
08-18-2006, 03:04 PM
I could never really get into Spawn. I mean, he lives in a frickin' alley, has awesome powers but can't use them, he's burnt up worse than Freddy Krueger, has agents of heaven AND hell trying to kill him, everybody he ever thought was his friend has betrayed him-his life just plain sucks! Not to mention 2 things I could never get my head around:
1-Malebolgia empowered him to be his servant. Spawn defies Malebolgia & uses said powers against him. Why can't Malebolgia just take them back?
2-Al was gone for 5 years. Cyan speaks in perfect sentences, which would make her at least 4. When the hell did Terry make his move? At the funeral?
All hell spawn's have a choice, that's one of the key elements of Spawn. It makes a balance, Malebolgia has to gamble on each hell spawn, to see if they'l lead his armies into sucess.
Draw4u
08-18-2006, 03:39 PM
heres an idea, get the cast of the movies to voice the cartoon. Theyre doing it with the Hellboy cartoon, so why not?? Especially seeing as how its straight to dvd, its not like the cast wuld have to go in for any kind of pre-scheduled recordings (weekly, or monthly like the simpsons cast), they could jsut go in for a few days, record the whole series, get a paycheck and be done with it. Tobey Maguire already does the voice acting in all the spider-man games too.
Chris Wallace
08-18-2006, 03:54 PM
I'm not sure about that. I don't even think it should be tied into the movies. Look what happened last time.
kooguy911
08-22-2006, 09:07 PM
but it probably will be considering that sony is doing it...
Chris Wallace
08-23-2006, 10:18 AM
I don't think so. They also saw what happened last time.
IMO, w/the exception of maybe "The Real Ghostbusters", cartoons based on movies suck.
kooguy911
08-23-2006, 11:23 AM
i hope it does really well and cartoon network (adult swim) picks it up so there can be more than 1 season.
Chris Wallace
08-23-2006, 11:28 AM
Nobody's picking it up. It's going straight to DVD. Besides, I don't want any Time-Warner affiliate touching another Marvel cartoon ever again.
ragingdemon155
08-24-2006, 12:10 PM
I agree with whoever said "Batman: The Animated Series" is the best superhero cartoon ever. No doubt about that. It was so far ahead of its time. I'm not even a DC fan but there cartoons are so much better then Marvel's cartoons. Its not even close.
Anyway, hopefully this Spider-man series will be good. I have my doubts though
Cyrusbales
08-24-2006, 12:13 PM
I agree with whoever said "Batman: The Animated Series" is the best superhero cartoon ever. No doubt about that. It was so far ahead of its time. I'm not even a DC fan but there cartoons are so much better then Marvel's cartoons. Its not even close.
Anyway, hopefully this Spider-man series will be good. I have my doubts though
Have you seen Spawn?
kooguy911
08-24-2006, 04:56 PM
everyone keeps refering to spawn, but i find BTAS much much better than spawn...
the reason being:
1. Im a Batman fan, obviously im going to say I love BTAS much better. BTAS has better characters and villians in my opinion.
2. BTAS lasted alot longer than spawn did.
3. BTAS had a fantastic cast of voice acters, including Ron Perlman. Spawn didnt have Ron Perlman...
Cyrusbales
08-25-2006, 06:58 AM
everyone keeps refering to spawn, but i find BTAS much much better than spawn...
the reason being:
1. Im a Batman fan, obviously im going to say I love BTAS much better. BTAS has better characters and villians in my opinion.
2. BTAS lasted alot longer than spawn did.
3. BTAS had a fantastic cast of voice acters, including Ron Perlman. Spawn didnt have Ron Perlman...
Fair enough, BTAS is really good, I won't argue on that, I just prefer the story and art on spawn, but I own spawn and BTAS, so I'm a happy camper!
ragingdemon155
08-27-2006, 08:21 PM
Have you seen Spawn?
Yes I have seen Spawn. First off, I never liked Spawn at all in the comics. I always thought of him as rather "lame". Didn't care much for the cartoon either.
Batman: TAS was just simply ahead of its time. It was so well put together season after season. Right from the very first episode with Catwoman you could tell this series was going to be something special. It just continued to grow after that. Spider-man is my favorite superhero ever easily but damn I wish he got that kind of treatment in an animated series.
You can debate about who's got the best comics out and so on.....but when it comes to animated series...I'm sorry but Batman reigns supreme easily.
Of coarse....thats just my opinion though. :)
Cyrusbales
08-28-2006, 11:02 AM
Yes I have seen Spawn. First off, I never liked Spawn at all in the comics. I always thought of him as rather "lame". Didn't care much for the cartoon either.
Batman: TAS was just simply ahead of its time. It was so well put together season after season. Right from the very first episode with Catwoman you could tell this series was going to be something special. It just continued to grow after that. Spider-man is my favorite superhero ever easily but damn I wish he got that kind of treatment in an animated series.
You can debate about who's got the best comics out and so on.....but when it comes to animated series...I'm sorry but Batman reigns supreme easily.
Of coarse....thats just my opinion though. :)
Well I agree to some extent, but Spawn was more consistent, BTAS went from really dark episodes, to very childlike ones, 'batmna in my basement' springs to mind. For this, I can't rate BTAS above Spawn, Spawn was always the dark and forbodding series it was meant to be, BTAS was a little hit and miss at times.
The Lizard
08-28-2006, 11:42 AM
The problem with the Spawn cartoon was the same problem with the Spawn comic. Someone decided that pumping up the violence and profanity meant that it was more "mature" and "adult", without actually providing quality stories at the same time.
Batman:TAS had some more mature elements too (eg: criminals firing real bullets instead of laser guns, scenes that were silent with no background music, etc), but it still provided a variety of stories that didn't seem repetitive or gimicky. No contest -- Batman was the better animated series. It was also better than the Spider-Man series, and I'm saying this as a huge Spidey fan.
Cyrusbales
08-28-2006, 11:44 AM
I liked the story in spawn, i found it very existential, and the whole battle between fate and hoice was handled well. But I guess it's all preference.
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