Robin

[Gotendbz-2]

Do you think they should have Robin in this or any of the new Batman films? I think that if he's in one of the new movies his mask should be like sort of like a head-band that wraps all the way around his head, not that glued on mask that he has in the comics and TV shows. And he should be 14-16 years old, not some 27 year old bum living in his parents basement that gets adopted by Batman like in Schumachers Batman, and if they wanted to do Tim Drake then he should be 12-14, and if it was Jason Todd then make him around 14-16 like I said for Dick Grayson.

I say maybe, What do you think?

[Cinemaman]

What I think?

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[McGourgh]

No.

[Eros]

Robin Is the second most important character in the batman stories, next to batman/Bruce Wayne himself.

[BatScot]

Here's the problem with these sorts of threads... the 'notion' of Robin is NOT a “spoiler” (i.e. something that is known to be in the film), it is idle speculation, and as such should be in the Non-Spoilers section, if for no other reason than to keep the Spoiler forum readable and free of unnecessary static.

[Kevin Roegele]

he should be 14-16 years old, not some 27 year old bum living in his parents basement that gets adopted by Batman like in Schumachers Batman

LMAO

[Christopher Nolan]

What I think?

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2497/kinopoiskruhulk1024x738163161xl2.jpg
I like this Pic.:up:

[Gonking]

well, I think he must appear in the third movie and when he does he should die in horrible way

[Gotendbz-2]

What I think?

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2497/kinopoiskruhulk1024x738163161xl2.jpg

Its not like I said "Who is Batman" or "Whats a Two-Face?"! Dang, you people get so angry at such little things :hulk:

[Two-Face]

There is a Robin in Sequels forum.

Check before you make a thread!

[Gotendbz-2]

There is a Robin in Sequels forum.

Check before you make a thread!

But its not a poll.

[AnimeJune]

Wow, this guy still smells like new car. It's amazing!

[Two-Face]

But its not a poll.

Who cares about the poll? We all know that he won't be in TDK.

[Mee]

Its not like I said "Who is Batman" or "Whats a Two-Face?"! Dang, you people get so angry at such little things :hulk:
I don't think he's angry, but your sort of in the wrong forum. This should be in the Begins sequel forum where I think there are already like eleventy five different Robin threads.

[Gotendbz-2]

Wow, this guy still smells like new car. It's amazing!

In the words of Keanu Reeves... Uh Wha...?

[AnimeJune]

In the words of Keanu Reeves... Uh Wha...?*stares significantly at Gotendbz2's low postcount* Yup. You're new.

[Gotendbz-2]

*stares significantly at Gotendbz2's low postcount* Yup. You're new.

Yes I just registered in June, but I have been reading these forums for a while now, just because I just registered doesnt mean I dont know anything, yes I am new, but I like comics, is there anything wrong with being new? And I dont post much, is there something wrong with that?

[BatScot]

But its not a poll.Poll or not, this is still the wrong forum.

[BatScot]

... is there anything wrong with being new? And I dont post much, is there something wrong with that?Yes, but it's not that you're new, or don't post much ;)

[Gotendbz-2]

Poll or not, this is still the wrong forum.

More people get on the spoiler forum than any other forum. And there was only one thread about Robin in the sequel forum.

[El Payaso]

The thread is in the wrong forum the same Robin would be in the wrong franchise.

[Cinemaman]

I have always hated Robin as one of the characters from Batman's world.

He doesn't look right in so dark universe.

[BatScot]

More people get on the spoiler forum... That's probably the worst argument for posting non-spoiler material in the spoiler forum.

[Mr. Vice]

Do you think they should have Robin in this or any of the new Batman films? I think that if he's in one of the new movies his mask should be like sort of like a head-band that wraps all the way around his head, not that glued on mask that he has in the comics and TV shows. And he should be 14-16 years old, not some 27 year old bum living in his parents basement that gets adopted by Batman like in Schumachers Batman, and if they wanted to do Tim Drake then he should be 12-14, and if it was Jason Todd then make him around 14-16 like I said for Dick Grayson.

I say maybe, What do you think?

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[The Only Woj]

this has NOTHING to do with TDK as of now and should be in the other forum. it really pisses me off to see threads about Robin in here. :down

[kytrigger]

well, I think he must appear in the third movie and when he does he should die in horrible way

No offense, but that would be awful. If they are going to go the route of Death In The Family, then don't introduce and kill him in teh same movie. Have him developed over a couple of films so the audience actually has time to connect with him so his death actually resonates.


Oh yeah, and wrong forum...:p

[Gonking]

No offense, but that would be awful. If they are going to go the route of Death In The Family, then don't introduce and kill him in teh same movie. Have him developed over a couple of films so the audience actually has time to connect with him so his death actually resonates. :p

yes, you are right, I was just joking, but whenever it is, he must die.

[kytrigger]

yes, you are right, I was just joking, but whenever it is, he must die.

yeah, i wouldn't mind in the future of having the Death In The Family storyline, but no Robin for now, and have him in a coupl eof movies first.

[griffolyon12]

I think Robin if handled right could be done well.Like he said make him a 14-16 year old teenager where it is believable that he could still be adopted by Bruce,but it's also believable that a 16 year old acrobat could in reality beat up thugs.I think it is highly possible for Robin to be pulled off in Nolan's world and the only reason people oppose the character is because the only time he was done they did him bad.I really believe if they took the time to develop the character like they did with Batman you could end up reviving the character and pulling him off in the coolest way ever.

[Cinemaman]

So you thank that such a hero like Robin can be introduced in such vision like Nolan's?

I will remind you that Nolan made BB to look very realistic and I doubt he has any interest to Robin.

[Gotendbz-2]

I think Robin if handled right could be done well.Like he said make him a 14-16 year old teenager where it is believable that he could still be adopted by Bruce,but it's also believable that a 16 year old acrobat could in reality beat up thugs.I think it is highly possible for Robin to be pulled off in Nolan's world and the only reason people oppose the character is because the only time he was done they did him bad.I really believe if they took the time to develop the character like they did with Batman you could end up reviving the character and pulling him off in the coolest way ever.

Thank you for actually posting what you think instead of "This is the wrong forum... n00b"! And I'm glad you agree with me. And Robin should have a mask like head-band.




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It's a giant mushroom!Maybe it's friendly!

[batmaluco]

No.
And yes, wrong forum, Robin has nothing to do with The Dark Knight (Spoilers) forum.
:(

[BatScot]

Thank you for actually posting what you think instead of "This is the wrong forum...Well this is the wrong forum… and everybody has already posted what they think elsewhere, not only in all the other Robin threads that have been inappropriately placed in the Spoilers forum, but in ALL the other forums where the notion of 'Robin' in more appropriate.

[BatScot]

Crap... there I go taking things too seriously again. Ok, I'll play along: No, Just no

[XCharlieX]

No. Just... no.

Im not afraid of batmans little sidekick named robin. It sounds like a bird that sings on a tree lol.

"There is only batman" is my slogan to similar types of questions.

[StorminNorman]

This question should be in another forum.

Should Robin be in TDK? No. Hell no actually.

Should Robin be in any future Bat films? Yes.

[Savage]

So you thank that such a hero like Robin can be introduced in such vision like Nolan's?

I will remind you that Nolan made BB to look very realistic and I doubt he has any interest to Robin.
Yes. Easily. This is where Bruce's experience at the opera can come in handy. This time while watching the show (circus) it is the act itself that goes wrong and he is taken right back to that moment. He adopts the kid himself since he has nowhere to go. He doesn't have to train him to be Robin. Hell, he shouldn't even want him to be Robin. The only thing that should convince him is when Robin himself becomes a hero and proves he can handle himself even without Batman.

...And make him about 14, just entering High School...and keep Shia Lebouf the hell away from the script!:mad:

[Cinemaman]

^^^

:rolleyes:

[StorminNorman]

Robin could exist fairly easily in Nolan's world. Hell, Nolan even said that Dick Grayson does exist in his universe.

[Cinemaman]

Robin could exist fairly easily in Nolan's world. Hell, Nolan even said that Dick Grayson does exist in his universe.

When did he say this? :eek:

[StorminNorman]

When did he say this? :eek:

He talked about how Dick Grayson is still in a crib somewhere :)

[AnimeJune]

Yes. Easily. This is where Bruce's experience at the opera can come in handy. This time while watching the show (circus) it is the act itself that goes wrong and he is taken right back to that moment. He adopts the kid himself since he has nowhere to go. He doesn't have to train him to be Robin. Hell, he shouldn't even want him to be Robin. The only thing that should convince him is when Robin himself becomes a hero and proves he can handle himself even without Batman.

...And make him about 14, just entering High School...and keep Shia Lebouf the hell away from the script!:mad:I happen to LIKE Shia Lebouf, but if there absolutely HAD to be a Robin (ie: a delusional fanboy held a gun to Nolan's head), I would go with Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

[XCharlieX]

He talked about how Dick Grayson is still in a crib somewhere :)

If he screws up the fans will turn on him lol Id avoid the issue altogether personally.

[Savage]

^^^

:rolleyes:
You're just mad because you actually got a response. :p

Edit: Wait, did you mean the post above the one above mine?

[Savage]

I happen to LIKE Shia Lebouf, but if there absolutely HAD to be a Robin (ie: a delusional fanboy held a gun to Nolan's head), I would go with Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
Veeerry good choice. :up:

Lebouf always irritated me for some reason. I thought he was fine on Even Steven but then he kept playing. The Same. Character. In every role he got.

[AnimeJune]

Veeerry good choice. :up:

Lebouf always irritated me for some reason. I thought he was fine on Even Steven but then he kept playing. The Same. Character. In every role he got.Actually, I liked him in pretty much everything EXCEPT the awful Even Stevens. And Tru Confessions.

Holes? Good. I, Robot? Good. Greatest Game Ever Played - well, the critics didn't say it was the Worst Movie Ever Made, and that must mean something...

[The Kid]

robin would be great yadda yadda

[StorminNorman]

Veeerry good choice. :up:

Lebouf always irritated me for some reason. I thought he was fine on Even Steven but then he kept playing. The Same. Character. In every role he got.

He actually played a very different role in a Disney Channel Movie called Tru Confessions where he actually gave a very good performance.

Sadly he was playing a mentally "slow" child, so that doesn't help him as Robin at all...

[StorminNorman]

Actually, I liked him in pretty much everything EXCEPT the awful Even Stevens. And Tru Confessions.

Holes? Good. I, Robot? Good. Greatest Game Ever Played - well, the critics didn't say it was the Worst Movie Ever Made, and that must mean something...

You didnt like Even Stevens?!!!

I liked him in I,Robot and Constantine too - however he really played the same exact character in both films.

As far as the Greatest Game Ever Played - that actually got fairly good reviews - a 61% on RottenTomatoes.com

If Shia was cast as Robin - I would have no complaints.

[Gotendbz-2]

Since you guys dont want this on this forum (How come you dont complain about the Harvey Dent threads? Or manip threads? Only this) I have decided to move it to the sequels forum, but I dont know how to do it because i have never moved something to another forum, I wanted to know if someone could tell me? Please dont call me a n00b, I just dont know how.

[Two-Face]

Since you guys dont want this on this forum (How come you dont complain about the Harvey Dent threads? Or manip threads? Only this) I have decided to move it to the sequels forum, but I dont know how to do it because i have never moved something to another forum, I wanted to know if someone could tell me? Please dont call me a n00b, I just dont know how.

Mods will move it.

And Dent is in TDK not Robin.

[StorminNorman]

Since you guys dont want this on this forum (How come you dont complain about the Harvey Dent threads? Or manip threads? Only this) I have decided to move it to the sequels forum, but I dont know how to do it because i have never moved something to another forum, I wanted to know if someone could tell me? Please dont call me a n00b, I just dont know how.

We dont complain about the Harvey Dent threads or the Manip Threads because Harvey Dent will be in TDK, and the manips are normally for Harvey, Joker or Harley - any of which will or could be in TDK - Robin wont be.

The Mod will have to move it, however chances are it will be closed before then because there are many a Robin thread there.

[Super Flight]

i hate robin he just gets in the way, Batman is someone who should always work alone, it makes it much better that way

[Gotendbz-2]

We dont complain about the Harvey Dent threads or the Manip Threads because Harvey Dent will be in TDK, and the manips are normally for Harvey, Joker or Harley - any of which will or could be in TDK - Robin wont be.

The Mod will have to move it, however chances are it will be closed before then because there are many a Robin thread there.

Thanks for telling me. But Robin hasnt been unconfirmed, yes, he probably wont be in it, but I dont see why you guys are being so confident that you are sure he wont be, I mean, you never know.

[Two-Face]

I love it someones replies to that ^

[Steelsheen]

the whole Nolan franchise is about Batman getting to be as good as he became by the time he adopted Robin.

so the answer is no.

[Isildur´s Heir]

To answer the question of, Should Robin be in a future movie....


Absolutely!

[StorminNorman]

Thanks for telling me. But Robin hasnt been unconfirmed, yes, he probably wont be in it, but I dont see why you guys are being so confident that you are sure he wont be, I mean, you never know.

Actually yes, Robin is Unconfirmed - by Nolan.

[PRIMETIME]

Nolan Said Robin Would Be To Young Cuz Batman Is Just Starting Out In These Movies But I Think They Should Bring Him In At Some Point In The Movies. I Wanna See Him Him Become Night Wing Or Atleast A Young Dick Grayson In One Of The Movies.

[The-Dark-Knight]

When Should They Bring Robin In?


Nevah.

[Aiden]

Never ever ever ever

[Two-Face]

Great another Robin thread. :rolleyes:

Wrong forum, this should be in sequels forum.

[Eros]

perhaps in the third film, maybe batman is going over the edge. Robin[pick onw] has always been their to make sure he never becomes to dark. Bruce takeing in a kid that is somewhat like he was, would be intersting to see.

[antmanx68]

They should bring Robin in when its a cold day in hell.

[IamtheBatman]

Nolan Said Robin Would Be To Young Cuz Batman Is Just Starting Out In These Movies But I Think They Should Bring Him In At Some Point In The Movies. I Wanna See Him Him Become Night Wing Or Atleast A Young Dick Grayson In One Of The Movies.

Actually, Nolan and Warner Bros. said that Robin will never be in the films.

[PRIMETIME]

Hahaha! No One Likes Robin? I Would Wanna See How Nolan Would Portray Him

[Mr. Thing]

I want the movies to be about Batman. Not the Dynamic Duo.

[IamtheBatman]

Hahaha! No One Likes Robin? I Would Wanna See How Nolan Would Portray Him

Let the Robin thing go it ain't happening.

[batmaluco]

No. At least not for now...
So, yes, wrong forum.
And another Robin thread ... ... .... ..... ....

[El Payaso]

This is very interesting question. Given Nolan's vision on Batman, the serious tone of the movie and since SR was not the success it was supposed to be along with the impact of the Marvel franchises over the world, I'd say that we can estimate NEVER IN THE LIFE

[The King]

I really don't have a problem with bringing in Robin, just as long as his character lasts no longer than three films. Assuming this new franchise is more than just a trilogy, and more like the 007 series (which is what I think we're all hoping for)... then I wouldn't mind introducing Robin by the fourth film.

4th Film: Introduce Dick as a young and vengeful "son" to Bruce. He becomes Robin by the film's end
5th Film: A full fledged "Batman AND Robin" type caper, and a deeper look into their relationship.
6th Film: Robin is killed, and it torments Bruce.

If done correctly, it really could be an excellent payoff. One of the most interesting aspects of their relationship could be the fact that Bruce always regretted bringing Dick along on his crusade. Perhaps this life wasn't meant for anyone else, and as a result his closest friend and "son" is killed.

[The Trainman]

Never knew that Dick Grayson's Robin was so badass. To tell you guys the truth, I think this might work in a future sequel after all.

Old Wounds - Part One

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryv7aqU0cZE

Old Wounds - Part Two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewp03qCBXOY&mode=related&search=

[Two-Face]

Never knew that Dick Grayson's Robin was so badass. To tell you guys the truth, I think this might work in a future sequel after all.

Old Wounds - Part One

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryv7aqU0cZE

Old Wounds - Part Two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewp03qCBXOY&mode=related&search=

Think that's Tim Drake's Robin.

[The Joker!]

I thought Nolan expressed no desire to use Robin. As did Christian Bale??

I think it's too early for Robin. At the end of the 3rd movie at the earliest is when we should meet Dick Grayson. Batman needs a few outings solo before he takes on a partner IMO.

[Poetic Chaos]

He'd have to be an actual kid. No more 27 year old Robins.

[Steelsheen]

maybe in the 3rd movie. maybe.

[PRIMETIME]

I thought Nolan expressed no desire to use Robin. As did Christian Bale??

I think it's too early for Robin. At the end of the 3rd movie at the earliest is when we should meet Dick Grayson. Batman needs a few outings solo before he takes on a partner IMO.

I AGREE I THINK WE SHOULD SEE A YOUNG DICK GRAYSON BY THE THIRD OR FOURTH FILM. NOT LIKE THE CRAPPY O'DONNELL ONE THOUGH

[theShape]

Deja vu. I swear.

[Spidey_Zombie]

They should skip, Dick Grayson...And move toward Tim Drake...But only as a very young child, in a cameo.... Possibly in 3...

[The Trainman]

Think that's Tim Drake's Robin.

I figure you didn't watch the whole episode.

[CConn]

#4, I'd say. I'd prefer they just skip to Tim Drake - I've never been a big fan of Grayson.

The Cassandra Cain Batgirl would also work fanastically well with Nolan's vision. If it wasn't completely against continuity, I'd be very anxious to see her introduced.

[Two-Face]

I figure you didn't watch the whole episode.

I did after post it :o

[Spidey_Zombie]

#4, I'd say. I'd prefer they just skip to Tim Drake - I've never been a big fan of Grayson.

:up::up::up::up::up:

[Mr. Superhero]

The day when Robin is brought into the Batman series, is the day the Batman series is destroyed. :)

[elorenishii386]

never.








From what is known already... Nolan will be doing two more movies for this franchise. Bale is signed for two more. This franchise is all about the beginning of Batman's career. So even bringing robin in for the third movie would be a little early.

[chosen1]

Primetime why you doin this?

This question has started several wars and many have died for it.

[Eros]

not really, Dick Grayson was taken in buy Bruce Wayne in Batman 3rd Year [maybe even sooner in some versions]. also considering Nolans Batman is gonna be in his early 30s[he was like 29 in batman begins] in The Dark Knight, better sooner then later.

[PRIMETIME]

Primetime why you doin this?

This question has started several wars and many have died for it.

BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE HOW NOLAN WOULD MAKE HIM. THE OTHER MOVIE VERSIONS WITH O'DONNELL WERE GAY. OH EROS JUST SAID ROBIN WAS TAKIN IN, IN HIS THIRD YEAR SO THERES STILL HOPE

[chosen1]

BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE HOW NOLAN WOULD MAKE HIM. THE OTHER MOVIE VERSIONS WITH O'DONNELL WERE GAY. OH EROS JUST SAID ROBIN WAS TAKIN IN, IN HIS THIRD YEAR SO THERES STILL HOPE

I was joking... sorry

[DCW]

If they ever, ever use Robin in a movie (which I hope they don't) I'd just want them to go straight to Jason Todd. That way they could introduce him, have him killed off, and then that would convince Bruce to never get another partner again.

[Eros]

Robin is basically the second most important character in the batman stories, and Nolan doesn't have the skills to incorporate him in a movie thats fine, but that doesn't mean other more skilled directors cannot try.

[CConn]

If they ever, ever use Robin in a movie (which I hope they don't) I'd just want them to go straight to Jason Todd. That way they could introduce him, have him killed off, and then that would convince Bruce to never get another partner again.You do realize Jason Todd is the most whiney, annoying, and unbearable of any of the Robins right?

[PRIMETIME]

You do realize Jason Todd is the most whiney, annoying, and unbearable of any of the Robins right?

YOUR RIGHT BUT THAT WOULD BE TIGHT TO HAVE JOKER KILL HIM IN THE MOVIE, AND THAN TIM DRAKE

[DCW]

Double post.

[DCW]

You do realize Jason Todd is the most whiney, annoying, and unbearable of any of the Robins right?

^^ No, I didn't. I'm not very familiar with the comics, I've only read a few of the grapihc novels. All I know about him is that he gets killed off by the Joker.

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Nolan Said Robin Would Be To Young Cuz Batman Is Just Starting Out In These Movies But I Think They Should Bring Him In At Some Point In The Movies. I Wanna See Him Him Become Night Wing Or Atleast A Young Dick Grayson In One Of The Movies.

Well if Barbara is a baby in "Begins" then it'll be a long wait but if Barbara and Dick Grayson are introduced I'd like to see them incorporate things from "BTAS" and "The Batman."

But probably she won't come along till movie 6, 7, or 8.

[Katsuro]

Well if Barbara is a baby in "Begins" then it'll be a long wait but if Barbara and Dick Grayson are introduced I'd like to see them incorporate things from "BTAS" and "The Batman."

But probably she won't come along till movie 6, 7, or 8.

That baby isn't Barbara, it's James Jr. The Barbara Gordon in the credits is his wife, not the baby.

[NinjaTurtleFan]

That baby isn't Barbara, it's James Jr. The Barbara Gordon in the credits is his wife, not the baby.

Oh...I thought it was Barb. My bad.

Still it'll be a long time before Barb and Dick come into the picture.

[FaT_tONle]

I wouldn't mind if Batman takes the kid in at the end of film three... but just Grayson... not Robin yet...

[DA Harvey Dent]

never.

[Hotwire]

Skip Robin and go straight to Nightwing. No Robin!! Ever again!! Well, if they make a Teen Titan movie, maybe bring Robin in, but that's a huge "if" and an even bigger "maybe"

[Hotwire]

The day when Robin is brought into the Batman series, is the day the Batman series is destroyed. :)
That is what happen to the last series.

[Flare]

Bah, they should have just called the little kid in Begins "Dick" and let him have a small role throughout the series. Batman befriends him for years but we never actually see him become Robin, though the story alludes to the concept.

[nolan's roll'n]

The day when Robin is brought into the Batman series, is the day the Batman series is destroyed. :)

You mean BTAS or the Nolan film series?


In both cases I agree. :up:

[ASL]

I never understood people's obsession with Robin. **** Robin.

[Black Mamba]

Let Robin go. I don't see it happening.

[spanish39]

Yeah, no Robin.

THOUGH...I wouldn't mind seeing a tip of that hat to old dick, well actually Jason, by having some random kid at some point trying to pull something off the batmobile and Batman walks up and scares the crap out of him and he runs off and then maybe Batman smiles and then drives off. That woud be it, no mention of his name or anything, just that quick little scene.

[kedrell]

Never in the 3 Nolan movies. If some other director wants to ruin batman after that, fine by me. I'll be content with Nolan's work.

[muertevilla]

i always hated robin. then when i saw chris o'donut play him totally gave me a sour taste at the back of my jaw. you know....the one you get right before you puke. it would be ok to see THrobin as a kid, but please...no yellow, green, and black costume for the kid. Batman getting help for me is like drinking non-alcohilic beer. pointless. i think they should let bruce get lost in the bat for a while. my favorite batman tale has been where he doesnt take the suit off for a long while and he gets all scruffy and depressed.

[Tron5000]

Nolan Said Robin Would Be To Young Cuz Batman Is Just Starting Out In These Movies But I Think They Should Bring Him In At Some Point In The Movies. I Wanna See Him Him Become Night Wing Or Atleast A Young Dick Grayson In One Of The Movies.

They Will Bring Robin In When People Stop Capitalizing Every Word They Type.

[Eros]

Never in the 3 Nolan movies. If some other director wants to ruin batman after that, fine by me. I'll be content with Nolan's work.

you are aware Robin been Batmans partner [pick one] for decades, and the Batman character has yet to be "ruined". The only thing that can "ruin" the Batman character in the movies, is bad writing and terrible concepts ala the last 2 90s bat flicks.

[The Only Woj]

I have to give you a thumbs up for both capitalizing every word and adding yet another thread regarding Robin. :down (that's right, that's a thumbs down)

[Superman4ever]

Nevah!

[drunkhomer]

Nevuh!

[ChrisBaleBatman]

As my good friend Michael Caine says, "Nevah!"

[xwolverine2]

the day joel schumacher comes back

[heypapajinx]

neeevvvvvver!!

[ChrisBaleBatman]

poor kid, he can never get a break.

Okay, just to give the kid a fair chance:

What about Dick Grayson? Would ever like to have him enter the picture, but....he'd never end up as Robin in this series. They'd just hint it, but he'd never put on the tights.

[heypapajinx]

^^^NO!^^^
the whole idea is proposterous.
a grown man who has another grown man living with him (Alfred) taking in a orphaned child. add one more and you have Tree Men and a Baby! why not make the third man Tom Sellek!?
i want to see nothing about such habadashary!
well, mayyyybe.
only if the child actor McCauley Culkin.

[CConn]

Tom Selleck would have actually made for a fantastic Two-Face 30, 40 years back.

[Edd Extraordinaire]

Tom Selleck would have actually made for a fantastic Two-Face 30, 40 years back.

Agreed!

[zer00]

^^^NO!^^^
the whole idea is proposterous.
a grown man who has another grown man living with him (Alfred) taking in a orphaned child. add one more and you have Tree Men and a Baby! why not make the third man Tom Sellek!?
i want to see nothing about such habadashary!
well, mayyyybe.
only if the child actor McCauley Culkin.

....

Tom Shellek for Azrael.

[Edd Extraordinaire]

....

Tom Shellek for Azrael.

Tom Selleck originally got the role for Casablanca, but was deemed to old.

[heypapajinx]

Tom Selleck would have actually made for a fantastic Two-Face 30, 40 years back.
are you trying to say he's old?!? ha!
and i don't think i could have gotten over that ridiculous mustache... or how funny his upper lip looked if they made him shave it.

[heypapajinx]

Tom Selleck originally got the role for Casablanca, but was deemed to old.
what!?
really!?
nooooo.
that poor Tom. even at -3 years old he can't get a break.

[CConn]

are you trying to say he's old?!? ha!
and i don't think i could have gotten over that ridiculous mustache... or how funny his upper lip looked if they made him shave it.The day I saw Tom Selleck without his mustache was the day the 80s truly ended for me.

[Mentok]

The day I saw Tom Selleck without his mustache was the day the 80s truly ended for me.

Agreed.

[Mentok]

I say dont bring in Robin.

Nightwing could work in the Nolanverse but I dont know how you could include him without having Robin first.

[heypapajinx]

The day I saw Tom Selleck without his mustache was the day the 80s truly ended for me.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/heypapajinx/tom.jpgreally?
for me it was the day i saw Don Johnson NOT wearing a pink shirt.

[ReptileOrion]

No Robin....No Nightwing....just the godd*mn Batman!!!

[kedrell]

you are aware Robin been Batmans partner [pick one] for decades, and the Batman character has yet to be "ruined". The only thing that can "ruin" the Batman character in the movies, is bad writing and terrible concepts ala the last 2 90s bat flicks.

Comics is one thing(even though I don't like him much there either) and live action movies/ TV shows are another. Every time Robin shows up in live action, the whole project immediately seems silly. That's because the whole concept of a kid tagging along with Batman in the extremely dangerous work that he does, is ridiculous.

[Desiak]

I think it would be slick if in the third or fourth batman movie they ended off with him meeting dick grayson. Then they did a movie about dick's transition from robin to nightwing as a sequal. they could resolve the end of the last batman movie and tell some of greyson's backstory like they did batman's in begins. batman could have a smaller role, using him more so in the backstory elements than the rest of the movie, then have them team up again at the end of the movie.

[batman44]

I say introduce Grayson at the end of 3 and have him as Robin in the middle of 4.

[FCEEVIPER]

As my good friend Michael Caine says, "Nevah!"
Ditto.

[Dark Guardian]

Ditto.
I ditto that ditto.

[MagicPrime]

I say introduce Grayson at the end of 3 and have him as Robin in the middle of 4.

They could make it work - im sure, if they had to.

But if you think about Ages. Wasn't the baby that was in Uncle Gordon's appartment in BB supposed to be a baby Barbara? So that would mean the Graysons only recently had Richard.

My Opinion at the current point of the films - Nowhere NEAR time.

[batman44]

They could make it work - im sure, if they had to.

But if you think about Ages. Wasn't the baby that was in Uncle Gordon's appartment in BB supposed to be a baby Barbara? So that would mean the Graysons only recently had Richard.

My Opinion at the current point of the films - Nowhere NEAR time.

No, I believe it's his son James Gordon.

[Bullseye]

Judging by what Nolan said in the past, it isn't likely for Robin to appear. There are better chances that the next director of a new Batman franchise will most likely introduce Robin into a Bat-film.

[TRUE]

No robin in nolans films please.

[Bullseye]

If Nolan did want to introduce Robin into this current franchise, you know that Nolan would get it right and NOT mess up the character as was in Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

[Thot]

In the immortal words of Alfred the Butler...."NEVAH"!!

[KingOfDreams]

How about never?

[antaydos]

Never ever ever ever ever.

[drunkhomer]

N E V A H ! ! ! !

[Hotwire]

This thread is still alive?? I figured everyone would have posted "never" about a dozen times by now and they would have closed it. Oh, well. I think they should ever bring Robin into these movies. But it might be cool to see Batman train Nightwing as an apprentice, and then let him go off and do his own thing.

[Mr. Vice]

Robin is really unnecessary.

[batman7289]

no robin

[i-n-z-a-n-e]

They should just mention the flying graysons at somepoint, maybe onthe news "batman, yadda yada yadaa. then say the flying graysons make a return to gotham" then just cut off....Or not lol, i dont realy want robin in a movie but if nolan puts him i can't complain.

[Renegade]

I think it is really a shame that Batman and Robin and Batman Forever have tainted the idea of Robin for people. This goes along with the whole Cinematic perfection vs. Comic Accuracy argument, but Robin has been an integral part of the Batman mythos for decades. Without Robin, as I think could easily be alluded to in a Nolan Bat-film, Batman often becomes lost in the darkness. There are some really wonderful themes involved in Bruce adopting a son in Robin.

I agree, that Robin should not be brought in for a while. There are still plenty of things to be done with JUST Batman. But, to say never is very disturbing to me. I really think there needs to be a film with Robin, done right, that respects that important history of the most famous twosome in history. The dynamic duo is one of the most recognized phrases, and you can't have a duo without someone else.

I guess, what I am hoping for, is at least just one film, possibly number 3, that brings in a young Dick Grayson, and while Batman fights, Dick trains, and perhaps at the end of the film, you see Dick in costume, and that is it. I would be happy with that. But, to reject him entirely, would be a mistake, imo.

[El Payaso]

I think it is really a shame that Batman and Robin and Batman Forever have tainted the idea of Robin for people.

Why people keep saying this? Robin was lame and I hated it long before Forever and B&R.

[Renegade]

Why people keep saying this? Robin was lame and I hated it long before Forever and B&R.

Well, I'm not sure whether or not you are a comic fan, but there was rarely a time Robin wasn't a part of Batman. Honestly, I used to hate the idea of Robin too. But, I have realized what he means to the Bat. I'll put it this way, there is a special place and time for Robin. I just wish people would accept Robin for what he brings to the story of Batman. Obviously, he isn't the most popular character, and it isn't horrible to leave him out, it just disappoints me.:(

[Shawn Wayne]

I prefer Bats to be solo. no robin. not ever.

[The Kid]

If superman can have a kid I don't see why batman can't have a robin.

[El Payaso]

Because Batman is not Superman?

[drunkhomer]

and also beacause the superman movie was corny

[The Kid]

Because Batman is not Superman?

Then I must ask you, how would you feel if Rachael was pregnant with Batman's baby in TDK? It would be in line with the current comics I believe.

Nolan could change Robin to being Batman's son and so then we'd have a new dynamic Duo in the movies, El. Wouldn't that be Marvelous?:supes::up::)

[The Kid]

and also beacause the superman movie was corny

yeah I know but I see some accepting that superman can have his super child and batman has a child in the comics so it wouldn't be too left fieldish if a child for batman was introduced... though that'd probaby piss a lot of people off.

[NHawk19]

No Robin.

[Fenrir]

No sidekicks...in the name of all that is sacred and holy, please...:(

[Hotwire]

Maybe if he just had a better name. I mean honestly, "Robin!" Just not scary. I mean, "Oooh, watch out for, Robin." Might as well call him Keith.

[spanish39]

Yeah, no Robin.

THOUGH...I wouldn't mind seeing a tip of that hat to old dick, well actually Jason, by having some random kid at some point trying to pull something off the batmobile and Batman walks up and scares the crap out of him and he runs off and then maybe Batman smiles and then drives off. That woud be it, no mention of his name or anything, just that quick little scene.

[The Sage]

I'd like to see Robin but it won't be happening in this franchise.

[Katsuro]

Yeah, no Robin.

THOUGH...I wouldn't mind seeing a tip of that hat to old dick, well actually Jason, by having some random kid at some point trying to pull something off the batmobile and Batman walks up and scares the crap out of him and he runs off and then maybe Batman smiles and then drives off. That woud be it, no mention of his name or anything, just that quick little scene.

http://www.stoppschild.com/Bilder%20Batman%20Forever/batmanforever_smile.jpg

[diagonbruce]

My credo is "No Robin-No Catwoman".

[spanish39]

http://www.stoppschild.com/Bilder%20Batman%20Forever/batmanforever_smile.jpg

ok so maybe Batman wouldn't smile lol, he looks kinda like a ninja turtle to me for some reason there. Maybe he would have that look like, &*#$%@* kid.

[Chiroptera]

They should NEVER bring Robin in. Not only that, but they should have Batman beat the crap out of Nightwing for being a pansy, and then have different villains kill off everyone who's ever worn the costume in the comics.

[Chiroptera]

They should NEVER bring Robin in. Not only that, but in the comics they should have Batman beat the crap out of Nightwing for being a pansy, and then have different villains kill off everyone who's ever worn the costume in the comics.

[Savage]

I will never understand the Robin hate...I love Batman as much as anybody else but his supporting cast is just as important. No Robin to me is the equal of no James Gordon or No Alfred or No Lucius Fox. I'd like to see him brought in eventually, just not too soon, rather than not at all. Ever since Nolan's Batman came out, the character has recieved all this unfair hate and that is not right. I can tell at least 90% of the people on these boards don't even read the comics because of the way they talk about this guy alone. It's one thing to not like a character, it's another not to acknowledge his importance to the Batman mythos.

I say Robin should be included in the third one. He's not as difficult to bring in as people here will have you believe.

What's funny about this is that if Nolan did bring him in and did a great job with the character, everybody would be going nuts about "How perfect" and "spot on!" and "He nailed the character!".

I can make an argument that the Batsuit is not necessary either, doesn't mean no-one here would throw a hissy fit if it wasn't included. You can make all the arguments you like about how stupid it is to include Robin but the same argument can be made about dressing up like a giant bat.

[CristiMAN]

Never!!!

["V"]

Never hopefully.

After killing the stigma of 'Batman and Robin' there is no way we will see them on screen in this franchise.

Nolan has all but said he won't do Robin and Bale said his prefers Batman as a loner.

If you have Robin where do you draw the line?

Batgirl, Huntress, Bat-Mite?

[Savage]

Never hopefully.

After killing the stigma of 'Batman and Robin' there is no way we will see them on screen in this franchise.

Nolan has all but said he won't do Robin and Bale said his prefers Batman as a loner.

If you have Robin where do you draw the line?

Batgirl, Huntress, Bat-Mite?
Batgirl becomes important but I don't see these movies lasting long enough to include her.

Huntress is mainly a Birds of Prey character and her ties to Batman seem to be minimal.

Bat-Mite is a pre-crisis f**k up as much as Comet the Superhorse and the Supermonkey.

That being said, I don't expect to see Krypto the Superdog in a Superman movie but Supergirl does stand a chance.

[keatonisbatman]

Why people keep saying this? Robin was lame and I hated it long before Forever and B&R.

So says the poster using the lamest Joker of all time as his avatar.

[keatonisbatman]

http://www.stoppschild.com/Bilder%20Batman%20Forever/batmanforever_smile.jpg

BATMAN doesn't smile.

[Fenrir]

BATMAN doesn't smile.

At least not like that. :down:

[Fanticon]

They probably won't get around to it...but I wouldn't mind a Dick Grayson cameo...as a boy or teen or something. But only as nod to the fans cuz I really don't think they'll ever be able to fit a Robin storyline in there.

[Savage]

Hmm. Well the way I see it, these movies seem to be following Year One, The Long Halloween, and Dark Victory. I'm sure Dick Grayson will either appear at the end of the third movie or be full out Robin. Either way I think the Dick Grayson character will definately make an appearance by the third movie...

[El Payaso]

Edit

[diagonbruce]

How about Never?

[Thespiralgoeson]

As someone who loves the Robin character(s) in the comics, I must say I'm in the camp that hopes that he's never in a Batman movie again. Batman is a loner and should stay that way.

[Katsuro]

So says the poster using the lamest Joker of all time as his avatar.

ZING!!!

Batman is a loner and should stay that way.

He's really not though. I mean, Batman's has one of the biggest supporting casts out there, especially in regards to sidekicks.

[The Kid]

BATMAN doesn't smile.

He does but its more of a smirk than a full smile.

[Thespiralgoeson]

He's really not though. I mean, Batman's has one of the biggest supporting casts out there, especially in regards to sidekicks.

Well, actually, I was just referring to Batman Begins. But that's one of the things I don't like about the Batman comics. I mean, I like characters like Cassandra Caine, and Azrael, but really, I never thought he needed a "Bat-family." If it were up to me, he'd occaissionally get some intel from Oracle, and that'd be it. Although Tim Drake is actually one of my favorite characters, I just like Batman better by himself. If I were writing the stories, Batman would be the sole savior of Gotham, Nightwing would stay in Bludhaven, and Tim Drake would be off leading the Teen Titans or something.

But Christopher Nolan's Batman? Please, no sidekicks.

[Savage]

Well as far as I'm concerned, Christopher Nolan is just the director. Just like Shumacher was just the director and Burton was just the director and every other person to direct Batman. It's up to them to take what was written and bring it to reality. I'm a Batman fan and that includes every aspect about him and his supporting characters. Just like Angel fans don't just watch the show for Angel. To me not to include a character like Dick Grayson/Robin eventually would be a great disservice to a character like Batman. Robin is about as campy as a guy dressed up as a bat in the first place so I don't see where the "It would be too campy" argument comes from with anybody.

I like Batman, I like everything about his book. I don't just read for the crime stories but his interraction with the rest of his supporting cast. One of the things I was looking forward to being done right in this new series was not only Batman but characters like The Penguin, Robin, Two-Face. To me this is a second chance to really deliver what I read the comic for.

This is why I hope as the movies continue, his "regulars" grow from more than just Alfred and Jim Gordon.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

nevar

[Thespiralgoeson]

Robin is about as campy as a guy dressed up as a bat in the first place so I don't see where the "It would be too campy" argument comes from with anybody.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. Robin is a good deal campier than Batman for one reason; he's a child. I just never could really believe the idea of Batman putting a kid's life at constant risk. Now maybe I could buy Bruce taking in a young Dick Grayson and training him as a successor because he shares his pain, but I would honestly hate to see some teenager on screen with Bale beating up bad guys. I mean, sure, I'll buy it in the comics, but it's just a bit of a stretch for me, especially considering he's still haunted by Jason Todd's death.

And one more thing, for me, the definitive Robin isn't Dick Grayson, it's Tim Drake. One of the reasons I like Robin in the comics is the history of the Robin mantle. The only way I would ever want to see Robin on the big screen again is to have the whole history of the character(s), from Dick's evolution into Nightwing, Jason Todd's death by the Joker's hand, and the introduction of Tim Drake, the best Robin. That in itself would take an entire trilogy and will never happen. What I do not want to see is to see Dick Grayson being introduced in the last film and becomming Robin, and have Jason Todd and Tim Drake retconned out of existance.

And still, all of this would take years. I for one do not ever want to see Batman age. I think Batman should be in his late-20's early 30's and should stay that way forever. That's why I'm hoping the last two installments of the trilogy take place in their entirety within only a few years after Begins.

So, no Robin. Not now or ever.

[ad101867]

If we're talking Robin as we know him from the comics, then I say he should never be brought in. What I don't like about the comic-book Robin is (a) it's massively irresponsible to take a kid into dangerous situations and expect him to fight his way out; the idea's just ludicrous. And (b) Robin's suit has always sucked; he and Batman don't have superpowers but rely on stealth. Green, yellow and red aren't in the stealth vein, exactly. Plus you know darn well Robin's not hiding any kevlar in there.

However, I'd be open to a new protegé-type character inspired by Robin and Nightwing. Here's a scenario suggested by a friend of mine. A young and angry kid, barely 18, has survived the destruction caused by Bruce at the League of Shadows headquarters. He's clueless about good and evil, but passionate about the League's agenda, and he tracks Bruce to Gotham and tries to tail Batman and engage him.

Batman wipes the street with the kid's rear, of course, but kinda feels sorry for him at the same time. Bruce then tries to make friends with the kid and offers to complete his training. Bruce isn't looking for a partner, but this would be done out of compassion. Kid goes on to get his own crime-fighting suit (all dark tones for nighttime activity) and calls himself Nightwing, not Robin. Maybe he sticks with Bats for a while; maybe he strikes out on his own (though probably not in Gotham).

A different variation - but still involving Batman taking a troubled youth under his wing - could borrow a bit of Alex Ross's WAR ON CRIME. That scene where a ghetto kid confronts Bats with a pistol and Batman just stares him down and then hugs the kid - that's a very moving little story in the Batman mythos. A film variation on that with the kid being 18 or so would be great; Batman having a positive impact on urban youth.

I'd be willing to bet most Bat-fans would go along with that sort of innovation.

:batty:

[batman7289]

nevah

[Savage]

I think you're both missing the point of Robin. He's a tool (hardy har. Not that kind of tool). Batman uses him for recon and to distract enemies. The way I see it working in the movie, Robin would be up on a rooftop somewhere with a laptop feeding Batman information and having them talk through ear pieces and such. He would really be a partner/Batman in training, not some kid randomly thrown into dangerous situations. He'd be the one to rescue Batman in situations even he can't get out of and that Alfred can't reach in time. In fact, that's how I'd like to see him introduced. Batman arguing with Alfred for help, Alfred arguing that there's no way that he can make it in time and here's Robin saving his life.

Do any of you watch Blade the series? Think Shen's roll and you get the idea.

As for endangering a child's life, that's a very important character point of Batman. He's gotten much more...out there. Almost illogical. Calling this a war and these people his soliders (Check out "The Dark Knight Returns" for an extreme form of this). It's not supposed to make sense. It's not supposed to be right. It's supposed to make you question this man's sanity. By the third movie probably 50% of his time is in the cave and 40 or 45% is spent crime fighting and he let's a 13-14 year old kid do this. Dick has grown up to resent him for a reason. These are very important points of Batman character and career that I would like to see brought to film.

Robin, Catwoman, all very important parts of Batman's evolution. In the first movie he's very willing to get into a relationship with Rachel. I want to see the point where he doesn't want to be emotionally close to anyone and is even cold to the people he loves.

[Mr_Mortis]

I just don't think Robin would fit in to Nolan's vision of Batman. Basically because Nolan himself said he wouldn't include Robin.

[Savage]

Eh. If he was to be brought in, I'd trust their talented writers to portray him well and not just Batman's tacked on partner to draw in a younger audience (Shumacher's Batman and the original run with Robin's first appearance). He can actually be a very useful tool and make Batman's operation look more...professional for lack of a better term. Like backup (there's only so much a swarm of bats can do).

My point is Alfred won't always be there to pick him up and drive him home. What if he's in a situation worse than being passed out on a wet roof?

[Thespiralgoeson]

Again, the only way I want to see Robin on the big screen again is if I get to see ALL of them. But there's just no way that will happen, so I'd rather Bats just stay a loner. I would just hate to see the trilogy end with Dick Grayson being introduced as Robin. I think THAT would be more of a disservice to the Robin character than just leaving him out entirely. But that's me.

[Mr. Vice]

Robin should never be seen anywhere near a Batman movie as long as Nolan's directing them.:up:

[Charleswelsh]

maybe instead of being a circus performer he and his brothers/ sisters could be really into parkour. maybe while trying to save their parents from *insert villain here* perched precariously above gotham, they all die except for robin. meh, its an idea.

[Danalys]

it always seems to me that in the best batman stories him and robin don't spend much time together. robin's basically doing something batman hasn't got time to do, or needs to be rescued. when the **** hits the fan and there's something only the batman can handle he doesn't want robin anywhere near it. the films should be those moments. in tv and the comics it can work but not in films. they just don't have the time. and bats has got alfred to keep him out of the dark. that and side kicks are inherently bad. some have managed to get away from the badness after a few decades. side kicks are a child audiences gateway into the world of batman. the movies don't need that.

[Savage]

Well I've always liked Whistler and Shen and they're sidekicks (mind you they're not children). I just think that it'd be one good way of showing Batman's crazy and even desperate aspect of his character. That Alfred would back talk him about it only to have Bruce talk him down and "assure" him he knows what he's doing and that in his opinion this child "needs his guidance"...Basicly something that makes people wonder "WTF are you doing man?! Are you insane?!". YES!

[SilentType]

I think Batman works better alone. Nothing more complicated than that.

[Mr. Vice]

maybe instead of being a circus performer he and his brothers/ sisters could be really into parkour. maybe while trying to save their parents from *insert villain here* perched precariously above gotham, they all die except for robin. meh, its an idea.

Hmmmmm, sounds like Batman Forever.:o

[RachelF5]

Grayson is the best.

[Stupify_me]

Never if they want a Batman and Robin film let it be in a differant franchise I would hate to see the Nolan Franchise get destroyed.

[I Am The Knight]

Neva!

[Stupify_me]

Maybe if he just had a better name. I mean honestly, "Robin!" Just not scary. I mean, "Oooh, watch out for, Robin." Might as well call him Keith.
ROFL hoodwinked was so funny

[I Am The Knight]

Why?

Here we go.....Kid tagging along. Gritty crimefighter. Does not mesh very well if you ask me. They would have to redo the suit's colors and make them black most likely unless the kid wants to become a target.

Wayne shouldn't be out endangering children. If they make him some teenager, it just loses a bit of the father/son aspect of it for me. I don't mind seeing Grayson as a kid Wayne picks up to try and redeem himself at some point in his career, but Robin I don't really see working very well. If anything Grayson should be trained to become the next Bats.

[Stupify_me]

Why?
Because I don't see Batman as campy but I have always viewed Robin that way. A teenager who becomes a superhero because some rich guys decideds he will take care of him. Or even look at his costume it is so sad and pathetic he has underwere and stalkings he looks very campy and a little ambiguously gay. I have also always thought that Batman was better alone. I do enjoy some of the other charecters that lend a hand but only when they show up on rare occasions and not robin. I like Nightwing (I know he was robin but he isn't now) I like Oracle I like the new batgirl but thats it and I don't want them around that often.

Personally I just want Nolans movies to be Batman/Gordon/Alfred and the villians thats it.

[Stupify_me]

Here we go.....Kid tagging along. Gritty crimefighter. Does not mesh very well if you ask me. They would have to redo the suit's colors and make them black most likely unless the kid wants to become a target.

Wayne shouldn't be out endangering children. If they make him some teenager, it just loses a bit of the father/son aspect of it for me. I don't mind seeing Grayson as a kid Wayne picks up to try and redeem himself at some point in his career, but Robin I don't really see working very well. If anything Grayson should be trained to become the next Bats.
I like this idea alot bit. Maybe at some point in the third movie we can see Bruce take in A very young Dick (That sounds very bad sorry) and take care of him I mean Dick at like the age of 12 or 13but we never see him become Robin we just know it is coming. If they decide to go past three movies the fourth one could just kick up with Nightwing just skip a few years and have him be nightwing. Like the fourth movie is 5 or 6 years later or something.

[I Am The Knight]

And what if Nolan & co. rewrote the character so he becomes a more credible character?

OK, how exactly?

[Stupify_me]

Well, they managed to rewrite Ra's and Scarecrow's characters so they fit with the movie, it can't be that hard for Robin.
I don't really even understand this. Ra's and Scarecrow were both good to begin with and only need a few details changed. Robing would need to be completely remade to not even be Robin.

[I Am The Knight]

Well, they managed to rewrite Ra's and Scarecrow's characters so they fit with the movie, it can't be that hard for Robin.

Ra's wasn't really a far cry from the comics, and Scarecrow was what you'd expect (very cool execution) but I just don't see how you get Robin in these movies without some drastic changes. I like Robin, but I don't want to see the character misused or anything. Maybe it's best to just keep him out.........Of the outfit.

[Savage]

They would have to redo the suit's colors and make them black most likely unless the kid wants to become a target.

He is a target. He's a distraction. That's also why Batman lets him run his mouth.

[I Am The Knight]

Not really. I don't want Robin in TDK or the 3 one but after I can see him working in the franchise without it becoming a joke.

How about instead of a circus, Rich(I call him Rich instead of Dick for obvious reasons) and family are in the theatre performing a show like when Bruce was a kid; Rich's parents could be those people that climb ropes and do gymnastic tricks. Joker or some other villain having a taste for the theatrics comes in with their mob and ends up killing some audience members, actors, and Rich's parents.
Bruce see's Rich sulk over their bodies and takes him under his care. We follow everything like the comics but Batman won't let him be a sidekick because as everyone says, it's endangering a kid. I want Bruce teaching Rich self-defense moves though. I can see Rich as a bit of a rebel where if he feels he can't help Batman fight, he finds out what he thinks can help Batman.

Right, it sounds kinda corny still but it's a way to go around the Robin situation. No suit, just Robin being an angry and confused kid, much Wayne was. He could get training to ''vent'' a little and focus his rage on something. But it depends on if you want to make him a kid or a teenager. I'd go with the kid angle. But no kid crimefighting, and no tights! :D

[Stupify_me]

Not really. I don't want Robin in TDK or the 3 one but after I can see him working in the franchise without it becoming a joke.

How about instead of a circus, Rich(I call him Rich instead of Dick for obvious reasons) and family are in the theatre performing a show like when Bruce was a kid; Rich's parents could be those people that climb ropes and do gymnastic tricks. Joker or some other villain having a taste for the theatrics comes in with their mob and ends up killing some audience members, actors, and Rich's parents.
Bruce see's Rich sulk over their bodies and takes him under his care. We follow everything like the comics but Batman won't let him be a sidekick because as everyone says, it's endangering a kid. I want Bruce teaching Rich self-defense moves though. I can see Rich as a bit of a rebel where if he feels he can't help Batman fight, he finds out what he thinks can help Batman.
So similar to Batman Forever but more serious and more time invested in the introduction not just.

My parents are dead.
This rich dude is taking me in
hey he's Batman ill steal his car
Im going to be his sidekick hi im robin Alfred made this suit for me


I always laugh at how fast every thing goes and how out of no where Dick Grayson is this great fighter and has it in him to be a hero and Alfred just say ok you can be Robin no matter what Master Bruce says. I thought Forever was a decent movie but it was still kind of a joke.

I don't mind Dick Grayson being in the movie I just don't want Robin.

[Savage]

Robin doesn't have to literally fight crime. He's a helper. He's a scout. He helps. What he DOESN'T do is come swooping down and clobbering anyone in sight. That's not how I'd like to see him portrayed anyway. I mean maybe in the whole movie he should get like one fight scene and it would be against one guy as opposed to an entire group. Maybe someone catches him on the roof scoping the place out and feeding Batman info on what's around each corner.

[Stupify_me]

Robin doesn't have to literally fight crime. He's a helper. He's a scout. He helps. What he DOESN'T do is come swooping down and clobbering anyone in sight. That's not how I'd like to see him portrayed anyway. I mean maybe in the whole movie he should get like one fight scene and it would be against one guy as opposed to an entire group. Maybe someone catches him on the roof scoping the place out and feeding Batman info on what's around each corner.
See to me even that just sounds bad. I don't want Robin in it at all I wouldn't mind if in the last movie there was a Dick Grayson hinting at a Robin but never actually getting him that would be fine by me. I just don't like Robin the suit is horrible the whole concept of a child helping Batman is just ridiculous. Even if the concept wasn't just very campy and lame the there has never been a good robin visual that I have ever seen they all look very campy and lame.

[Savage]

Well hey, opinions. I happen to like the Robins. Always did. Even think the costume looks pretty cool (not the fairy one. The one with pants. That's what I grew up on. The Animated Series). Just going to have to agree to dissagree on this one because it seems that nobody's minds will be changed on account on previous biases.

I like Robin and consider him even more important than Jim Gordon but just as much as Alfred. Hey, that's just me though. I'd like to see him and Catwoman make it in there somehow. Make Batman's world to florish so it's not just him and *insert villain here* over and over.

[Stupify_me]

Well hey, opinions. I happen to like the Robins. Always did. Even think the costume looks pretty cool (not the fairy one. The one with pants. That's what I grew up on. The Animated Series). Just going to have to agree to dissagree on this one because it seems that nobody's minds will be changed on account on previous biases.

I like Robin and consider him even more important than Jim Gordon but just as much as Alfred. Hey, that's just me though. I'd like to see him and Catwoman make it in there somehow. Make Batman's world to florish so it's not just him and *insert villain here* over and over.


To be fair it is more then Batman and insert Villian there is Gordon and Alfred and as much as I hate to see it there is Racheal (yuck) Catwoman would really be a bad idea since she just recently had a movie out that bombed

[Stupify_me]

If Nolan can bring Batman back after Schumacher's movies, he can bring back Catwoman after Berry's movie. It wasn't as recent as some of you think.
Batman was in 98 the Catwoman movie was 2004 and it bombed far worse than Batman and Robin

[Thespiralgoeson]

Again, this is just me, but I HATE the idea of just bringing in Dick Grayson and leaving Jason Todd and Tim Drake completely out of the universe. I think that's a much greater misuse of Robin than leaving him out completely.

[Stupify_me]

Again, this is just me, but I HATE the idea of just bringing in Dick Grayson and leaving Jason Todd and Tim Drake completely out of the universe. I think that's a much greater misuse of Robin than leaving him out completely.
I agree Jason shapped The batman that we have had for the last 10 years with his death, and Tim has shaped the slightly kinder Bruce that we have today. Though I prefer him as a complete ass and a loner but I think if we had to bring in Dick then we have to get Jason and Tim in there as well but we can only do so much I doubt you can get the actors to stay for to many movies and the Franchise just can't stay around that long.

[Savage]

To be fair it is more then Batman and insert Villian there is Gordon and Alfred and as much as I hate to see it there is Racheal (yuck) Catwoman would really be a bad idea since she just recently had a movie out that bombed
Nah. I'm sure audiences can tell the difference between a white woman and a black woman. lol It would be a Batman movie that features Catwoman in it. People would like the idea because they know she works well with the Batman character and works like crap on her own (well WB's attempt anyway).

And I know people like the Robins and all but all you need is one and he'll most likely end up being an algamation of them anyway. We'd most likely get Dick Grayson with Tim's costumes and Brains, etc etc. Not like the series would last long enough for us to see Nightwing and Robin standing side by side anyway.

The way I see it, every Batman needs a Robin. Yes there are the loner years but eventually it becomes this.(sans Superman obviously)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/Phatjesus/BatFamily.bmp
Since the movies aren't going to last long enough for this to become a reality, the beginning of this would be nice. They call it The Bat-Family for a reason and that is Batman unknowingly recreates the family he had. That is what is so significant about the characters of Robin and Catwoman.

[7Hells]

The only way I'd want Robin to be in the movie is if he shows up just to give Wayne some closure in the third. Filling all that paternal need and renewed hope through youth for the future. I dont really care to see him do anything but play into an emotional support theme at the end.

Also by introducing Robin at the end, kind of like the Joker was introduced in BB, it would deter any other directors from making a direct sequel to Nolans work. I'd rather the future Batman directors be as brave as Nolan and interpret Batman with originality.

As long as Nolan is truly only doing 3...

[Stupify_me]

Nah. I'm sure audiences can tell the difference between a white woman and a black woman. lol It would be a Batman movie that features Catwoman in it. People would like the idea because they know she works well with the Batman character and works like crap on her own (well WB's attempt anyway).

And I know people like the Robins and all but all you need is one and he'll most likely end up being an algamation of them anyway. We'd most likely get Dick Grayson with Tim's costumes and Brains, etc etc. Not like the series would last long enough for us to see Nightwing and Robin standing side by side anyway.

The way I see it, every Batman needs a Robin. Yes there are the loner years but eventually it becomes this.(sans Superman obviously)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/Phatjesus/BatFamily.bmp
Since the movies aren't going to last long enough for this to become a reality, the beginning of this would be nice. They call it The Bat-Family for a reason and that is Batman unknowingly recreates the family he had. That is what is so significant about the characters of Robin and Catwoman.


Meh I prefer Loner Batman. Hell the best Batman stories are when he is doing things alone and the Bat familey is in the background doing their own thing.

It's not that I think they can't tell the differance it's that they have a bad taste in their mouth from Catwoman.

Personally Catwoman is one of my least favirote people I only like here when she is not a bad guy and she is makin it with Batman other then that she is a horrible Villian IMO

[Thespiralgoeson]

And I know people like the Robins and all but all you need is one and he'll most likely end up being an algamation of them anyway. We'd most likely get Dick Grayson with Tim's costumes and Brains, etc etc. Not like the series would last long enough for us to see Nightwing and Robin standing side by side anyway.


No, you don't just need one. It's all or nothing. No Robin, no Dick Grayson. Not now, not ever. Only time will tell if Nolan agrees with me or not, but if I remember correctly, didn't he say in an interview Robin would probably never be included as long as he's in control of the project?

[Stupify_me]

No, you don't just need one. It's all or nothing. No Robin, no Dick Grayson. Not now, not ever. Only time will tell if Nolan agrees with me or not, but if I remember correctly, didn't he say in an interview Robin would probably never be included as long as he's in control of the project?
Let us hope

[Gotendbz-2]

For all you guys that think Robin cant done well, you must not think Christopher Nolan is a good director, because if you did, you want Robin in these movies. And just because he said he wont use him doesn he wont, look at Sam Raimi, he said he would never use Venom in a Spider-Man movie, and whadda ya' know? Things change, and changing your mind takes a matter of seconds. And as for the costume, go to the "Who should be Robin" thread in the sequels forum and go to page 4, then scroll down until you see drawings of an awesome suit. Thats how I want Robin. And also, the kid Batman gave the night vision goggles to should turn out to be Dick Grayson, because Robin does have night vision goggles. Annd you all say its unrealistic for someone take a kid out crime fighting, well have you ever seen a guy in a bat costume fight crime? And he wouldnt be a little kid, he would be 13-16 years old. There are a lot of acrobats that know martial arts that are that age who could kick your butts.


Have a nice day :batty:

[Stupify_me]

For all you guys that think Robin cant done well, you must not think Christopher Nolan is a good director, because if you did, you want Robin in these movies. And just because he said he wont use him doesn he wont, look at Sam Raimi, he said he would never use Venom in a Spider-Man movie, and whadda ya' know? Things change, and changing your mind takes a matter of seconds. And as for the costume, go to the "Who should be Robin" thread in the sequels forum and go to page 4, then scroll down until you see drawings of an awesome suit. Thats how I want Robin. And also, the kid Batman gave the night vision goggles to should turn out to be Dick Grayson, because Robin does have night vision goggles. Annd you all say its unrealistic for someone take a kid out crime fighting, well have you ever seen a guy in a bat costume fight crime? And he wouldnt be a little kid, he would be 13-16 years old. There are a lot of acrobats that know martial arts that are that age who could kick your butts.


Have a nice day :batty:

I have plenty of faith in Nolan but that does not mean I expect him to do the impossible he can't bring in Robin with out hurting the Franchise greatly Robin translates horrible in to movies and even worse in the Nolan universe. Hell he doesn't even go in to comics all that great IMO I never liked Robin and would be happy to never see him again.

[CristiMAN]

Never!!!! Drop it. Robin doesnt fit in this restart of the series. I cant understand why people even insist in this. Robin is a mistake that has over 50 years. Hoe many times did the character get killed (present and future)? I see this character the same way I see Batgirl, Batwoman, Batdog or any of those derivations of the myth. If they exist, kill them. If they dont exist, keep them out! Whats next? People asking Singer for Krypto in the sequel?

[Ryudoz]

Robin is a mistake that has over 50 years.

I can't think of many mistakes that had the fan base that Robin has. The fact that there is a thread discussing the very topic of Robin proves his popularity. And as a mistake in general, it's all a matter of perspective. In the comic books the first Robin (Dick Grayson) leave the Batman and becomes Nightwing, a superhero much like Batman. A sucessful one nonetheless. The second Robin (Jason Todd) was killed off thanks to a slim majority of people who called in during the even back in the late 80's. And the third Robin is still very much alive and doing well not getting killed. Again, hard to see that as a mistake.

[Stupify_me]

Never!!!! Drop it. Robin doesnt fit in this restart of the series. I cant understand why people even insist in this. Robin is a mistake that has over 50 years. Hoe many times did the character get killed (present and future)? I see this character the same way I see Batgirl, Batwoman, Batdog or any of those derivations of the myth. If they exist, kill them. If they dont exist, keep them out! Whats next? People asking Singer for Krypto in the sequel?
Thank you. I couldn't agree more I do enjoy oracle just because she makes sense and the newer Batgirl isn't to bad but it would be better with out her. I think just for the purpose of great stories would should of still had Dick and Jason just becau there is that whole tension between Bruce and DIck also Jasons death made some important changes in Batman and it was a great story. Oh and I like Nightwing. It would of been nice to just have Little miss Gordon but when she got shot she became oracle and we never get another Batgirl. Oh and No TIm so how it would stand now is Oracle (Im sure I keep spelling that wrong) Night wing and Batman no Robin no Batgirl or any of the other people that show up from time to time aside from the majors ones like Superman he is fine to show up once in awhile but not in every single Big Batman Arc.

[Stupify_me]

I can't think of many mistakes that had the fan base that Robin has. The fact that there is a thread discussing the very topic of Robin proves his popularity. And as a mistake in general, it's all a matter of perspective. In the comic books the first Robin (Dick Grayson) leave the Batman and becomes Nightwing, a superhero much like Batman. A sucessful one nonetheless. The second Robin (Jason Todd) was killed off thanks to a slim majority of people who called in during the even back in the late 80's. And the third Robin is still very much alive and doing well not getting killed. Again, hard to see that as a mistake.
I believe Tim is a mistake.

[Ryudoz]

I believe Tim is a mistake.

I like Tim. I think he balances out the two previous Robins. Dick was great, Jason was ok, but I think Tim is a good mix of the two. Plus he seems to be more cerebral than the previous ones. I think he adds a very interesting element to the Batman/Robin mythos.

[7Hells]

And just because he said he wont use him doesn he wont, look at Sam Raimi, he said he would never use Venom in a Spider-Man movie, and whadda ya' know?
Difference is Nolan wrote the 3 movies as one, Raimi did not use that approach. Which is evident considering they are now adding Gwen Stacy to #3...

[Stupify_me]

I like Tim. I think he balances out the two previous Robins. Dick was great, Jason was ok, but I think Tim is a good mix of the two. Plus he seems to be more cerebral than the previous ones. I think he adds a very interesting element to the Batman/Robin mythos.
I don't hate Tim I can deal with him but I would be happier with out him around simply because I think it's better with out a Robin. If there has to be a Robin Tim works but like I said I would prefer that Jason as the last Robin I felt there was no need for another one.

[Hades]

When they run out of ideas

[Katsuro]

Never!!!! Drop it. Robin doesnt fit in this restart of the series. I cant understand why people even insist in this. Robin is a mistake that has over 50 years. Hoe many times did the character get killed (present and future)? I see this character the same way I see Batgirl, Batwoman, Batdog or any of those derivations of the myth. If they exist, kill them. If they dont exist, keep them out! Whats next? People asking Singer for Krypto in the sequel?

one has to wonder, if it's such a mistake, why'd it last so long?

Robin's just as much a part of the Batman mythos as Gordon or even Alfred, he just doens't come into the story as early. If this franchise only goes to 3 movies, leaving Robin out would be fine. But it'd be wrong to go past that without bringing in one of Batman's most important supporting characters.

besides, the way I look at it, Robin deserves this chance to prove himself to the general public. Most people think of Robin as the campy sidekick from the 60s show and comics. This is the same way Batman was seen before the 1989 movie came out. Michael Uslan had to fight to get a dark, serious Batman film made, as opposed to a remake of the old 60s Batman with Bill Murray. Tim Burton showed the world how dark and cool Batman could be, so perhaps Chris Nolan can do the same for Robin. Seriously, pick up a modern comic with him and you'll see that i'm right, Robin doesn't say "Holy <insert pun> Batman!" anymore.

[Stupify_me]

one has to wonder, if it's such a mistake, why'd it last so long?

Robin's just as much a part of the Batman mythos as Gordon or even Alfred, he just doens't come into the story as early. If this franchise only goes to 3 movies, leaving Robin out would be fine. But it'd be wrong to go past that without bringing in one of Batman's most important supporting characters.

besides, the way I look at it, Robin deserves this chance to prove himself to the general public. Most people think of Robin as the campy sidekick from the 60s show and comics. This is the same way Batman was seen before the 1989 movie came out. Michael Uslan had to fight to get a dark, serious Batman film made, as opposed to a remake of the old 60s Batman with Bill Murray. Tim Burton showed the world how dark and cool Batman could be, so perhaps Chris Nolan can do the same for Robin. Seriously, pick up a modern comic with him and you'll see that i'm right, Robin doesn't say "Holy <insert pun> Batman!" anymore.While it is true that if you pick up a comic today you won't see robin saying some stupid line like "Holly Rusted Metal Batman" but he is still a very cheesey person. Robin is one of the things that hurts Batman for me I love Batman I still read the comics but I cringe everytime Robin is shown. If he has to be in a movie if it goes beyond three then I will have to say something that I didn't think I would say I hope this franchise does not go beyond three because if he gets written in to a Batman movie again it will just ruin it just like he hurt the comics IMO they could be so much better with out him.

[Thespiralgoeson]

And also, the kid Batman gave the night vision goggles to should turn out to be Dick Grayson, because Robin does have night vision goggles. Annd you all say its unrealistic for someone take a kid out crime fighting, well have you ever seen a guy in a bat costume fight crime? And he wouldnt be a little kid, he would be 13-16 years old. There are a lot of acrobats that know martial arts that are that age who could kick your butts.


Have a nice day :batty:

Give me a f****ing break... I never said it was "unrealistic." I said I dont' buy it, and I don't. There's a huge difference between realistic and believable, and I just can't see Nolan's Batman/Bruce Wayne doing something like that. 13-16 years old? Yeah... that why I said TEENAGER. And you know what? I don't think a teenager as Batman's partner is that much more believable or would look that much better on screen than a 1st grader.

And I keep hearing this idea that the kid in Begins is Dick Grayson. Let me be the first to say F**K THAT!

If Robin is included at all, you bet your sweet ass that I want to see all of it, Dick's evolution into Nightwing, Jason Todd's death, and the development of Tim Drake, who IMO is a much more suitable partner to Batman than Dick Grayson ever was. All of it! I think retconning Jason Todd and Tim Drake out of existence would be a half-assed, weak, absolutely pathetic excuse to include the character, just for the sake of including him. To me, that is a much greater misuse and flat-out insult to Robin himself. To me, that's worse than turning Bane into Poison Ivy's mindless zombie sidekick, or depicting the Joker as a stereotypical serial killer who happens to paint his face.

Just leave it be. Robin will always have his place in the Batman mythos. But the Christopher Nolan franchise just isn't that place.

[Savage]

hmm...I'm just not buying how Robin can ruin the franchise. All I see is that there is a lot of animosity towards the character himself in the first place so of course those very same people don't want him in a movie...Gotta wonder how he lasted so long if so many people hate him.

[Stupify_me]

hmm...I'm just not buying how Robin can ruin the franchise. All I see is that there is a lot of animosity towards the character himself in the first place so of course those very same people don't want him in a movie...Gotta wonder how he lasted so long if so many people hate him.
Because even the people who don't like him will read the comic anyway. I hate Robin but Batman is my all time favirote comic persona so I will read the comics even if I hate one or more of the people in it.

[El Payaso]

I can't think of many mistakes that had the fan base that Robin has. The fact that there is a thread discussing the very topic of Robin proves his popularity.

Man, every single thread about Robin has more replies from more people against him than pro-Robin. What kind of popularity is proven there?

[Two-Face]

There is so many ****ing Robin threads some theards needs to closed.

[Gotendbz-2]

Give me a f****ing break... I never said it was "unrealistic." I said I dont' buy it, and I don't. There's a huge difference between realistic and believable, and I just can't see Nolan's Batman/Bruce Wayne doing something like that. 13-16 years old? Yeah... that why I said TEENAGER. And you know what? I don't think a teenager as Batman's partner is that much more believable or would look that much better on screen than a 1st grader.

And I keep hearing this idea that the kid in Begins is Dick Grayson. Let me be the first to say F**K THAT!

If Robin is included at all, you bet your sweet ass that I want to see all of it, Dick's evolution into Nightwing, Jason Todd's death, and the development of Tim Drake, who IMO is a much more suitable partner to Batman than Dick Grayson ever was. All of it! I think retconning Jason Todd and Tim Drake out of existence would be a half-assed, weak, absolutely pathetic excuse to include the character, just for the sake of including him. To me, that is a much greater misuse and flat-out insult to Robin himself. To me, that's worse than turning Bane into Poison Ivy's mindless zombie sidekick, or depicting the Joker as a stereotypical serial killer who happens to paint his face.

Just leave it be. Robin will always have his place in the Batman mythos. But the Christopher Nolan franchise just isn't that place.

Calm down buddy. I wasnt even talking about you, I was talking about everybody thats said that. And why do you hate the idea of Dick Grayson being the kid in BB? And the only reason you guys (I'm NOT directly talking to you Thespiralgoeson) dont want Robin in any more movies is because you think he will be like in Batman & Robin, but HE WONT!!!! Why cant you people get it through your thick heads!? If you dont think Robin can be down well you have no faith in Christopher Nolan! So stop saying "In Nolan we trust" and "I Have Faith In Nolan" Because thats all crap if you dont think he can do the character that is most important to Batman well!

Robin can be in a good movie, it just takes a good writer and director, and Batman has both of those things right now.

And he wouldnt be a 27 year old bum living with his weirdo perants that GETS ADOPTED BY BATMAN!! NOLAN IS BETTER THAN!!! DONT YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!? Give them a chance to prove that Rbin is a good character!!!!! And you cant have Nightwing without Robin, so remember that everybody.

And dont you think Bob Kane would have loved it to see Batman and Robin in a good movie? Jeez! I mean he died after he saw Batman & Robin and heard they were going to make a sequel to it! I dont think Bob Kane would a Batman franchise without Robin done well.

R.I.P. Bob Kane :batty:

[El Payaso]

How giving Nolan the chance to do Robin when he doesn't want to?

[Mr. Superhero]

What I don't get is; How would Robin fit in? If he partners up with Batman, then the new series is practically destroyed.

Batman's a one man person, he doesn't require any help. He's the mysterious Dark Knight... not a vigilante who teams up with ponsey little teenagers who dress up as a bird.

I know for a fact that Robin will never be introduced to the new series, because Nolan has the brains. He knows Robin cannot fit into the genre of Batman.

Robin's for ten year old kids...

[explode7]

^Watch the new episodes of THE BATMAN cartoon series starting next week saturday they are bringing in robin and it looks rediculous. Thats how it would probably look if they bring in Robin.

[I Am The Knight]

That Bob Kane comment was funny.

Most people's view of Robin is distorted because of Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. The only way I see the kid working is by just having Dick Grayson, but him never becoming Robin. If anything, Batman should have the Sons Of The Batman army in the future....

[explode7]

As I've said numerous times before they shouldn't bring in robin unless its in Teen Titans movie. So batman should be like training a teen boy wonder and he will go on his own with the skills, knowledge and gadgets he acquired from bruce to join the Teen Titans and should never appear alongside Batman in anymore incarnations.

[Gotendbz-2]

You people just dont get it. Any thing can be turned into something bad (The Fantastic 4 movie was bad, but FF is a great comic), and anything bad, can be turned into something good. And this isnt "The Batman", that show is really bad, but this season looks the best, but that really isnt saying much. Just give Robin a chance! And Batman is not a one man guy! Are YOU the people that wrote the comics? NO! Yeah sure, ordinary people decided to kill off Jason Todd, BUT YOU ARE NOT THE WRITERS. Yeah, Batman is a guy who is dark and mysterious, and he is also a guy with a lot of side-kicks, and its just that way. Gordon is pretty much a side-kick, he just doesnt dress up in a costume and go with him where ever he goes. Robin can be done greatly! And he is a very important part of Batman! If your going to use The Batman as an example as Robin being a bad character, I'll use the example of B:TAS of how the character isnt bad, or Teen Titans. Robin is very important and the Robin that we have seen in the past movies is not Robin! Batman had a frickkin' nipple suit! And I dont se anyone saying "The moment they make Batman films Batman is destroyed".

Some 70 year old guy probably wishes that a Batman movie with Robin in it that isnt a joke like Batman & Robin, would be made before he dies, because he knows that Robin is a great character! Do you want to let that old man down?

Robin can be great, just give the character a chance to prove it and stop hating him or else they will never get a chance to prove it.


Good day! :batty:

[explode7]

First off Robin should have never made an appearance in the comics. I've heard the only reason they ever made him was to appeal to younger children since he is a lighter character than Batman. Secondly they should change the Robin origin altogether like what I've stated above.

[mcallima]

The only way Robin can be portrayed in a non-campy manner is to portray him as an adult. And if you're going to change him that much, why bother including him?

I wouldn't necessarily mind Bruce adopting an orphaned Grayson, but a crime fighting teenager is INHERENTLY campy.

[Stupify_me]

Calm down buddy. I wasnt even talking about you, I was talking about everybody thats said that. And why do you hate the idea of Dick Grayson being the kid in BB? And the only reason you guys (I'm NOT directly talking to you Thespiralgoeson) dont want Robin in any more movies is because you think he will be like in Batman & Robin, but HE WONT!!!! Why cant you people get it through your thick heads!? If you dont think Robin can be down well you have no faith in Christopher Nolan! So stop saying "In Nolan we trust" and "I Have Faith In Nolan" Because thats all crap if you dont think he can do the character that is most important to Batman well!

Robin can be in a good movie, it just takes a good writer and director, and Batman has both of those things right now.

And he wouldnt be a 27 year old bum living with his weirdo perants that GETS ADOPTED BY BATMAN!! NOLAN IS BETTER THAN!!! DONT YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!? Give them a chance to prove that Rbin is a good character!!!!! And you cant have Nightwing without Robin, so remember that everybody.

And dont you think Bob Kane would have loved it to see Batman and Robin in a good movie? Jeez! I mean he died after he saw Batman & Robin and heard they were going to make a sequel to it! I dont think Bob Kane would a Batman franchise without Robin done well.

R.I.P. Bob Kane :batty:
Oh get over it and give me a break. It is possible to have fait in Nolan and think that Robin just can't be done. I have plenty of faith in Nolan but he isn't a god and he isn't perfect no one is.

[explode7]

How about all of us agree to not put Robin in any Batman movie ever???