The Official DC Stupid Question Thread....

[Colossal Spoons]

Aside from the end of 52, is Starfire's return to Earth shown anywhere else?

[ddm92392]

Not that I can think of.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hmm, ok. Sounds good. So then Hal, Kyle, Kilowog, and Airisa are the only living Green Lanterns on Earth currently?

[ddm92392]

IDK if Kyle counts as a GL right now but yea sure.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Oh, that's right. he's Ion. So which ones would be GLs right now and which ones still have powers?

[ddm92392]

Actually he's Parallax they removed the Ion entity and Parallax took over he's now apart of the Sinestro Corps. Currently all the others stated earlier would be GL's and still have their powers except for the dead one's.

[trustyside-kick]

Yea, I know the idea may sound crappy and might piss you off...but after I actually read the issue of him turning to Parallax, it doesn't bother me as much.

[ddm92392]

me neither it kinda feels like their redoing the whole Hal thing but just in a different way. Which is funny cause their both the most popular and their both going in the same direction.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Ok, so now Kyle is evil as Parallax and Hal is back to being the main man as GL on earth?

[ddm92392]

yup.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well I'll be damned. :up: Thanks ddm :up:

[ddm92392]

no prob dude.

[TheCorpulent1]

The status quo of the GLs important to Earth is as follows:

Hal Jordan and John Stewart are the official Lanterns of Sector 2814. Hal's designation is 2814.1 and John's is 2814.2. The way they tend to work is that John patrols the majority of the sector while Hal spends most of his time on Earth. Hal is the current GL for the Justice League since its recreation.

Guy Gardner is not one of the 7200 "beat GLs" who patrol space sectors. Rather, he was made Lantern 1 of the Guardians' new Honor Guard, which was created after the Corps was reborn in GL: Rebirth. His authority supercedes regular GLs', and he's dispatched by Salakk on direct orders from the Guardians to deal with problems that are above and beyond what normal Lanterns can handle.

Kyle Rayner was above the normal GLs as well after Rebirth, but he wasn't a member of the Honor Guard. He was elevated to the status of Torchbearer in honor of the fact that he kept the Corps' memory alive for the period when the Corps itself was destroyed and he was acting as the sole Green Lantern in the entire universe. The name comes from the idea that he was the light in the Corps' darkest hour. Although Torchbearer is different from an Honor Guard Lantern, Kyle's missions were similar to Guy's: he'd be dispatched to help out wherever normal GLs were in over their heads. During one such assignment to intervene in the Rann/Thanagar War, things escalated and Kyle wound up fighting alongside Donna Troy's space team in Infinite Crisis. Jade died and merged her part of the Starheart with Kyle, resulting in the birth of a new entity called Ion, which was willpower's avatar in the same way that Parallax is fear's avatar. Kyle retook the name Ion--not knowing about the entity itself because, unlike Parallax, it only supports its host without making its presence known--and basically was free to do whatever he wanted. He returned to Earth for a while and tried to resume his artistic career, but he wound up back in space after being framed for the murder of several Lanterns by Alex Nero. Several of his old villains suddenly resurfaced and started attacking him one by one as well, and Kyle encounters a Monitor who tells him he should have died in Jade's place. Ultimately, Kyle is unable to solve the mystery of who's out to destroy his life, so he returns to active duty under the Guardians. Responding to the Sinestro Corps threat, Kyle has the Ion entity torn out of him and is manipulated into feeling fear (which is retarded, but I'll refrain from ranting on the subject again), which allows Parallax to use him as a host. Solicitations of comics coming out after the Sinestro Corps crossover indicate that Kyle will be back to a ring-wearing, normal GL after the war with the Sinestro Corps is over, and that he'll join Donna Troy and Jason Todd--two other characters whom the Monitors say should be dead--on their search for Ray Palmer.

Kilowog was made the GLC's drill sergeant, as mentioned earlier. Arisia is probably back to patrolling her sector after her resurrection, but I'm not sure. She's recently been charged by the Guardians (through Salakk, as usual) with protecting a rookie GL named Sodam Yat for some unknown reason (a lot of people around here suspect Yat will become the new host for Ion).

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

The status quo of the GLs important to Earth is as follows:

Hal Jordan and John Stewart are the official Lanterns of Sector 2814. Hal's designation is 2814.1 and John's is 2814.2. The way they tend to work is that John patrols the majority of the sector while Hal spends most of his time on Earth. Hal is the current GL for the Justice League since its recreation.

Guy Gardner is not one of the 7200 "beat GLs" who patrol space sectors. Rather, he was made Lantern 1 of the Guardians' new Honor Guard, which was created after the Corps was reborn in GL: Rebirth. His authority supercedes regular GLs', and he's dispatched by Salakk on direct orders from the Guardians to deal with problems that are above and beyond what normal Lanterns can handle.

Kyle Rayner was above the normal GLs as well after Rebirth, but he wasn't a member of the Honor Guard. He was elevated to the status of Torchbearer in honor of the fact that he kept the Corps' memory alive for the period when the Corps itself was destroyed and he was acting as the sole Green Lantern in the entire universe. The name comes from the idea that he was the light in the Corps' darkest hour. Although Torchbearer is different from an Honor Guard Lantern, Kyle's missions were similar to Guy's: he'd be dispatched to help out wherever normal GLs were in over their heads. During one such assignment to intervene in the Rann/Thanagar War, things escalated and Kyle wound up fighting alongside Donna Troy's space team in Infinite Crisis. Jade died and merged her part of the Starheart with Kyle, resulting in the birth of a new entity called Ion, which was willpower's avatar in the same way that Parallax is fear's avatar. Kyle retook the name Ion--not knowing about the entity itself because, unlike Parallax, it only supports its host without making its presence known--and basically was free to do whatever he wanted. He returned to Earth for a while and tried to resume his artistic career, but he wound up back in space after being framed for the murder of several Lanterns by Alex Nero. Several of his old villains suddenly resurfaced and started attacking him one by one as well, and Kyle encounters a Monitor who tells him he should have died in Jade's place. Ultimately, Kyle is unable to solve the mystery of who's out to destroy his life, so he returns to active duty under the Guardians. Responding to the Sinestro Corps threat, Kyle has the Ion entity torn out of him and is manipulated into feeling fear (which is retarded, but I'll refrain from ranting on the subject again), which allows Parallax to use him as a host. Solicitations of comics coming out after the Sinestro Corps crossover indicate that Kyle will be back to a ring-wearing, normal GL after the war with the Sinestro Corps is over, and that he'll join Donna Troy and Jason Todd--two other characters whom the Monitors say should be dead--on their search for Ray Palmer.

Kilowog was made the GLC's drill sergeant, as mentioned earlier. Arisia is probably back to patrolling her sector after her resurrection, but I'm not sure. She's recently been charged by the Guardians (through Salakk, as usual) with protecting a rookie GL named Sodam Yat for some unknown reason (a lot of people around here suspect Yat will become the new host for Ion).

Thanks Corp :up:, but what took you so damn long? :D

Also that does sound pretty lame with Kyle, care to rant a little on it so I understand a bit more?

[MagicPrime]

I think I speak for a bunch of us when I say I would have been happy with Kyle staying Ion for a long long long time.

But I knew in my heart that Kyle would get the shaft - yet again.
And they will find some half-ass way to put Hal on an even high pedestal.

[TheCorpulent1]

Thanks Corp :up:, but what took you so damn long? :D

Also that does sound pretty lame with Kyle, care to rant a little on it so I understand a bit more?
I had a busy weekend and didn't see the thread for a while. :oldrazz:

As for Kyle, I, BrianWilly, and a few other posters are upset over the fact that in The Sinestro Corps Special, Johns reveals that Sinestro and his Corps were actually behind the death of Kyle's mother in the Ion mini-series. This in turn opens Kyle up to Parallax's influence. But in Rebirth, Johns made a specific (and rather major) point about the fact that Kyle was, in fact, the only GL who already did feel fear, since he wasn't chosen by the Guardians for fearlessness or any other quality--Ganthet just happened to land near Kyle and Kyle accepted the responsibility.

The fact that he wasn't holding himself to some unrealistic standard of fearlessness actually made Kyle, more than any other Lantern, better able to resist Parallax's influence; he'd dealt with fear his whole life, so it wasn't anything new to him fighting it off. Plus, Kyle dealt with being thrust into the role of superhero without any training or idea of how to approach it; the deaths of not one, not two, but three girlfriends, all at the hands of villains; the brutal hate-crime beating of one of his best friends; physical manifestations of his own power; the loss of his humanity; his own death; and, y'know, being the sum total of the entire Green Lantern Corps and the Guardians' mission of protecting the universe for years without succumbing to Parallax's influence or anything else.

But then Johns does a complete 180 on all of that and his own story by showing us that the realization that Sinestro had a little viral Sinestro Corpsman kill his mom is somehow enough to reduce him to a blubbering child and allow Parallax to take over, where everything else we've seen of Kyle would seem to indicate he'd just get pissed off enough to bust himself free and decimate the Sinestro Corps single-handed. Johns is writing Kyle like an idiot just so he could do to him what was done to his precious Hal, and frankly it's childish and obnoxious.

[MagicPrime]

I had a busy weekend and didn't see the thread for a while. :oldrazz:

As for Kyle, I, BrianWilly, and a few other posters are upset over the fact that in The Sinestro Corps Special, Johns reveals that Sinestro and his Corps were actually behind the death of Kyle's mother in the Ion mini-series. This in turn opens Kyle up to Parallax's influence. But in Rebirth, Johns made a specific (and rather major) point about the fact that Kyle was, in fact, the only GL who already did feel fear, since he wasn't chosen by the Guardians for fearlessness or any other quality--Ganthet just happened to land near Kyle and Kyle accepted the responsibility.

The fact that he wasn't holding himself to some unrealistic standard of fearlessness actually made Kyle, more than any other Lantern, better able to resist Parallax's influence; he'd dealt with fear his whole life, so it wasn't anything new to him fighting it off. Plus, Kyle dealt with being thrust into the role of superhero without any training or idea of how to approach it; the deaths of not one, not two, but three girlfriends, all at the hands of villains; the brutal hate-crime beating of one of his best friends; physical manifestations of his own power; the loss of his humanity; his own death; and, y'know, being the sum total of the entire Green Lantern Corps and the Guardians' mission of protecting the universe for years without succumbing to Parallax's influence or anything else.

But then Johns does a complete 180 on all of that and his own story by showing us that the realization that Sinestro had a little viral Sinestro Corpsman kill his mom is somehow enough to reduce him to a blubbering child and allow Parallax to take over, where everything else we've seen of Kyle would seem to indicate he'd just get pissed off enough to bust himself free and decimate the Sinestro Corps single-handed. Johns is writing Kyle like an idiot just so he could do to him what was done to his precious Hal, and frankly it's childish and obnoxious.

HERE HERE!! PIP PIP!!! HUZZAH!!!

You have just summed up everything I have been ranting about to my friends! WTH does Johns have such a boner for Hal?

When Kyle thought Major Force killed his mom he blew up his house and send Force flying about fifteen miles into a forest. I would expect the same reaction to Sinestro. But oh *sarcasm begin* Sinestro is a Hal Villian so he must be so much more elevated to fight the bastion of light that is Hal Jordan *end Sarcasm*.

Don't get me wrong I like Hal, but Kyle is the Lantern I Identify more with.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I had a busy weekend and didn't see the thread for a while. :oldrazz:

As for Kyle, I, BrianWilly, and a few other posters are upset over the fact that in The Sinestro Corps Special, Johns reveals that Sinestro and his Corps were actually behind the death of Kyle's mother in the Ion mini-series. This in turn opens Kyle up to Parallax's influence. But in Rebirth, Johns made a specific (and rather major) point about the fact that Kyle was, in fact, the only GL who already did feel fear, since he wasn't chosen by the Guardians for fearlessness or any other quality--Ganthet just happened to land near Kyle and Kyle accepted the responsibility.

The fact that he wasn't holding himself to some unrealistic standard of fearlessness actually made Kyle, more than any other Lantern, better able to resist Parallax's influence; he'd dealt with fear his whole life, so it wasn't anything new to him fighting it off. Plus, Kyle dealt with being thrust into the role of superhero without any training or idea of how to approach it; the deaths of not one, not two, but three girlfriends, all at the hands of villains; the brutal hate-crime beating of one of his best friends; physical manifestations of his own power; the loss of his humanity; his own death; and, y'know, being the sum total of the entire Green Lantern Corps and the Guardians' mission of protecting the universe for years without succumbing to Parallax's influence or anything else.

But then Johns does a complete 180 on all of that and his own story by showing us that the realization that Sinestro had a little viral Sinestro Corpsman kill his mom is somehow enough to reduce him to a blubbering child and allow Parallax to take over, where everything else we've seen of Kyle would seem to indicate he'd just get pissed off enough to bust himself free and decimate the Sinestro Corps single-handed. Johns is writing Kyle like an idiot just so he could do to him what was done to his precious Hal, and frankly it's childish and obnoxious.


Yeah that does sound pretty crappy and lame. I don't get it, what was wrong with Kyle being Earth's premire GL or Ion?

[The Leaguer]

Absolutely nothing, but whiney babys need their crappy cardboard character Hal.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah that does sound pretty crappy and lame. I don't get it, what was wrong with Kyle being Earth's premire GL or Ion?
I don't even want Kyle to be the premiere Earth GL, to be honest. I know that's going to be Hal because, frankly, everybody at DC seems to want him there. But Kyle should've just been a co-star in the Green Lantern Corps series as Ion, the way he was a co-star in the GLC: Recharge mini-series before he gained his Ion powers. Gibbons could kick some major ass with Kyle, given that he's made even Guy Gardner cool.

[The Leaguer]

I will not be happy unless Kyle stars in his own book.

[TheCorpulent1]

You'll never be happy again. That would make me sad, except I think you're genetically incapable of happiness anyway.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well wasn't he while he was GL?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but that ain't happening again.

[The Leaguer]

You'll never be happy again. That would make me sad, except I think you're genetically incapable of happiness anyway.

Zauriel is a starring character in Shadowpact. Not as awesome as it could be, given his characterization, but I'm very happy about it.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey, was it Arisia that aged herself so she could be with Hal?

[The Leaguer]

Hah, dumb b****.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So it was her then right?

[The Leaguer]

Hell if I know. Whoever it was was a dumb b****.

[Harlekin]

Yeah, it was Arisia.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Ok, so here is my question then, it relates back to another one of my questions. If Arisia used the power ring to progress her age so she was old enough to go for Hal. Couldn't a GL do the opposite and regress their age?

[The Leaguer]

Isn't that what happened to Hal when he came back?

It would also be the general principle behind Alan halting his aging completely, I would imagine.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I'm not sure. I asked the question before if the power ring could extend the life of a GL and I never got a definitie answer yes or now. Just a most likely not.

[TheCorpulent1]

Isn't that what happened to Hal when he came back?

It would also be the general principle behind Alan halting his aging completely, I would imagine.
It's not what happened when Hal came back. It was stated that Parallax had aged him prematurely, so when he came back and purged Parallax, the damage that Parallax had done went away as well.

It's also not what the deal is with Alan. Alan merged with the Starheart, making his own body merely a shell of Starheart energy. He's not a human being, he is sentient Starheart energy. His body is a reflection of his mental state, both conscious and subconscious. He could will himself to look like he's in his 30s again, but right now, because he's afraid of losing his humanity, he's making himself appear to be a man in his late 50s because that's closer to his chronological age.

I just read on Wikipedia that Arisia's planet has a ridiculously long yearly cycle, so when she was "13" she was actually about 200-something in Earth years. Did she ever actually will herself to look older physically as well?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

It's not what happened when Hal came back. It was stated that Parallax had aged him prematurely, so when he came back and purged Parallax, the damage that Parallax had done went away as well.

It's also not what the deal is with Alan. Alan merged with the Starheart, making his own body merely a shell of Starheart energy. He's not a human being, he is sentient Starheart energy. His body is a reflection of his mental state, both conscious and subconscious. He could will himself to look like he's in his 30s again, but right now, because he's afraid of losing his humanity, he's making himself appear to be a man in his late 50s because that's closer to his chronological age.

I just read on Wikipedia that Arisia's planet has a ridiculously long yearly cycle, so when she was "13" she was actually about 200-something in Earth years. Did she ever actually will herself to look older physically as well?


It's stated in the DC Encyclopedia 04 that she did indeed will herself to look older through using her power ring.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, well, I guess you can do that with a power ring, then. It's pretty rare, though. I don't know if it'd still be possible with the current rings, either; the things Lanterns could do back in the Silver Age went well beyond what I've seen them do in the current comics.

[MagicPrime]

It's also not what the deal is with Alan. Alan merged with the Starheart, making his own body merely a shell of Starheart energy. He's not a human being, he is sentient Starheart energy. His body is a reflection of his mental state, both conscious and subconscious. He could will himself to look like he's in his 30s again, but right now, because he's afraid of losing his humanity, he's making himself appear to be a man in his late 50s because that's closer to his chronological age.

That's also why Alan is using a "Ring" now to focus his power. I liked it better when he had burning fists of emerald fire though :)

[MagicPrime]

Oh, well, I guess you can do that with a power ring, then. It's pretty rare, though. I don't know if it'd still be possible with the current rings, either; the things Lanterns could do back in the Silver Age went well beyond what I've seen them do in the current comics.

I could see a GL extending their life so long as they were in possesion of a working ring. But if the ring would lose its charge or be taken from them it would catch up to them immediatly.

[TheCorpulent1]

That doesn't seem to be the way it works, though. Arisia's always an adult now.
That's also why Alan is using a "Ring" now to focus his power. I liked it better when he had burning fists of emerald fire though :)
Me, too.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Plus the rings no longer need to be charged do they?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, they do. Kyle's ring was the only one that didn't need to be charged, and that was only because there was a bunch of ambient Lantern energy floating through the universe after the Central Power Battery's destruction. After Kyle drew in all of that ambient energy and became Ion the first time, then willingly gave it all up to restore the CPB because he feared all that power would cost him his humanity, he needed to recharge his ring again.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So other than Arisia has any other GL progessed or regressed their age?

[ddm92392]

well Kyles hair turned gray if that counts.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hmmm, but is that due to being aged? Didn't the same thing happen to Hal when he became Parallax? Plus was that by his own will?

[TheCorpulent1]

Alan Scott has changed his age for the reasons stated earlier. As for the rest of the GLs, I don't know.

[ddm92392]

Naw It was just a reaction to the Parallax entity possesing them.

[Manic]

I think a power ring could affect your age as long as you have an active knowledge of biology. Not even college-level. You just need to know to manipulate your cells until they resemble a younger state. Then, even when the ring is gone, the work has been done, and you're still younger.

I imagine Alan could bring himself back to his teenage years if changing the length if his bones, the size of his organs, and forcing his body to produce its natural chemicals at a different rate wouldn't be painful as all hell.

[ddm92392]

that sounds like it would be crazy complicated.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Does a GL actually have to have knowledge of how something works in order to create it?

For example something fairly simple but with many moving parts and such a car or can they just think car and create one?

[TheCorpulent1]

No, a GL does not need to have intimate knowledge of something to create a working facsimile. I very much doubt Kyle knew how to build all of the mecha constructs he made as a GL. They just need to have a solid idea of the thing in their mind. John Stewart, for example, does know how to build practically everything he makes because he's an architect and he just thinks in that way. It's not necessary, though.

Fun fact, however: It is necessary for Marvel's Quasar, who has very similar powers to a GL, to know the ins and outs of everything he makes. That's why he tends to keep things simple with just orbs or armor or basic melee weapons, and why, when he was assisting Reed Richards in building a machine to stop Galactus, he needed Reed to spell out exactly what everything he was building looked like and how its parts needed to work. He didn't need to know how the overall machine itself worked, but he needed to be able to construct the pieces for it.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

No, a GL does not need to have intimate knowledge of something to create a working facsimile. I very much doubt Kyle knew how to build all of the mecha constructs he made as a GL. They just need to have a solid idea of the thing in their mind. John Stewart, for example, does know how to build practically everything he makes because he's an architect and he just thinks in that way. It's not necessary, though.

Fun fact, however: It is necessary for Marvel's Quasar, who has very similar powers to a GL, to know the ins and outs of everything he makes. That's why he tends to keep things simple with just orbs or armor or basic melee weapons, and why, when he was assisting Reed Richards in building a machine to stop Galactus, he needed Reed to spell out exactly what everything he was building looked like and how its parts needed to work. He didn't need to know how the overall machine itself worked, but he needed to be able to construct the pieces for it.

Ah, sounds good :up:

So if a GL wants to create a time machine, they just have to think time machine, or a limb regenerator etc.?

[ddm92392]

yup thats how it works their only limited to their imagination oh and another fun fact GL rings can generate Kryptonite radiation.

[The Question]

Ah, sounds good :up:

So if a GL wants to create a time machine, they just have to think time machine, or a limb regenerator etc.?

I think in that case they'd need to know how it works. If Kyle wanted to make a car, all he's have to do is make a car shaped box with weels and will it to move and function like a car. But as the rings aren't inherently capable of time travel, he'd have to know how to built a time machine to make it work.

[ddm92392]

or roll with Flash.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I think in that case they'd need to know how it works. If Kyle wanted to make a car, all he's have to do is make a car shaped box with weels and will it to move and function like a car. But as the rings aren't inherently capable of time travel, he'd have to know how to built a time machine to make it work.


Hmmm so it may be circumstantial then?

[ddm92392]

like how?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

If it's just a car or a plane or a gun they can just create the shape of the object and power it with the ring itself.

But if it is a machine that can regenerate a lost limb they would have to know how it works?

[MagicPrime]

If it's just a car or a plane or a gun they can just create the shape of the object and power it with the ring itself.

But if it is a machine that can regenerate a lost limb they would have to know how it works?


It's varying levels of complexity - lets take the car example. If Kyle maked the Mach V with his ring to drive around, its probably not really going to have a motor thats running. Its just a solid object of ring energy that looks like the Mach V and is moving under the power of the ring itself. Something complex like a limb regenerator would have to have tons of small construct componenets. unless the GL ring itself had the ability to regenerate limbs from the get-go in which a GL could make a fire-extinguisher that regeneated limbs.

Sorry for all the spelling errors im typing fast on a work break.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

It's varying levels of complexity - lets take the car example. If Kyle maked the Mach V with his ring to drive around, its probably not really going to have a motor thats running. Its just a solid object of ring energy that looks like the Mach V and is moving under the power of the ring itself. Something complex like a limb regenerator would have to have tons of small construct componenets. unless the GL ring itself had the ability to regenerate limbs from the get-go in which a GL could make a fire-extinguisher that regeneated limbs.

Sorry for all the spelling errors im typing fast on a work break.


No worries, it was still more comprehensible than most posts. I get your point though thanks for the answer, pretty sure that clears it up for me. :D Althouh I may come back to this later :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

How extensive is Batman's catalog of Heroes and Villains on Earth? As well as other planets or known throuhout the Universe? Is there a more comprehensive or better database of heroes and villains on Earth?

[MagicPrime]

How extensive is Batman's catalog of Heroes and Villains on Earth? As well as other planets or known throuhout the Universe? Is there a more comprehensive or better database of heroes and villains on Earth?

Most of the Bat-Villians are centralized in Gotham, which to some show that they are "attracted" to Batman. Its also intresting to note - many Villians of other heroes won't socialize with Batvillians because they think they are scary and insane.

[Tropico]

How extensive is Batman's catalog of Heroes and Villains on Earth? As well as other planets or known throuhout the Universe? Is there a more comprehensive or better database of heroes and villains on Earth?

I think they've now linked the Batcave, JLA and Fortress of Solitude computers so that they share info. It wouldn't surprise me if Bats kept some info for himself. It might be the same for Superman when it comes to sensitive/personal information. Until recently I would have said the Batcave computer, but recent events make me think otherwise.

Edit: I forgot about Checkmate and the DEO. They might also have pretty comprehensive info but would lack the insight that many of the heroes put into the reports they file in their respective HQ's.

[The Question]

Most of the Bat-Villians are centralized in Gotham, which to some show that they are "attracted" to Batman. Its also intresting to note - many Villians of other heroes won't socialize with Batvillians because they think they are scary and insane.

The Joker is generally considered to be too much of a loose cannon to work with more methodical baddies like Luthor or Ra's. However, Luthor has noted that it's best to use people like The Joker in some capacity where they won't do much damage, because otherwise, they'll be pissed for being left out and cause you problems.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oracle's in that mix of shared information too, but I'm sure she keeps a lot of information to herself.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So then is there any database or catalog that has all or nearly all heroes and villains on Earth listed somewhere?

[batnkevlar]

Well, supposedly the government has all the identities of the heroes...

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably Oracle's computer. She has access or could gain access to all of the aforementioned systems.

[MagicPrime]

We've seen many times that the JLA has dossiers on alot of heroes and villians

[TheCorpulent1]

Makes sense. Knowledge is power, after all.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hmmm so then either the Government or Oracle? Sounds good :up:

[Tropico]

Well, supposedly the government has all the identities of the heroes...

This isn't Marvel.

[Mister J]

I recall reading a write-up about a recent Birds of Prey issue (maybe it was Countdown) that Oracle was fending off The Calculator from hacking into her system that had the identities of the world's heroes. I'd imagine she'd have something (perhaps not as extensive) on villains.

[Manic]

This isn't Marvel.
It's not, but I was under the impression the government had the identities of quite a few heroes locked up in their databases. Of course, it's difficult to tell when so many heroes have willingly gone public.

[MagicPrime]

It's not, but I was under the impression the government had the identities of quite a few heroes locked up in their databases. Of course, it's difficult to tell when so many heroes have willingly gone public.

There was a Story Arc in JSA about the JSA going to court and the government asking them to de-mask.

[WompuM]

If it's just a car or a plane or a gun they can just create the shape of the object and power it with the ring itself.

But if it is a machine that can regenerate a lost limb they would have to know how it works?

I remember an old Kyle GL issue where he fights Sonar maybe for the first time. He uses a big shark on him and puts him in a snow globe etc.
Anyway, in that issue is a guy without legs but apparently GL made new legs for him. So there you go.

[trustyside-kick]

When did the whole "Starheart" thing happen with Alan Scott and when did he become "Sentinel"?

[The Question]

I remember an old Kyle GL issue where he fights Sonar maybe for the first time. He uses a big shark on him and puts him in a snow globe etc.
Anyway, in that issue is a guy without legs but apparently GL made new legs for him. So there you go.

No, he didn't. First of all, the fellow was crippled. The legs were there, they just didn't work. Anyway, what he somehow gave that guy a portion of his ability to manipulate the GL ring's energy, so he could from green forcefields around his legs and move them.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

No, he didn't. First of all, the fellow was crippled. The legs were there, they just didn't work. Anyway, what he somehow gave that guy a portion of his ability to manipulate the GL ring's energy, so he could from green forcefields around his legs and move them.

Hmmm that sounds a bit different.

[yenaled]

The same thing was practically happening to John Stewart when he was crippled. A portion of the power that Hal gave to John to fix his spine - John actually subconsciously used to cripple himself again because deep down he didn't think he deserved to walk.

When did the whole "Starheart" thing happen with Alan Scott and when did he become "Sentinel"?

The Starheart is all a post-crisis retcon to explain why Alan Scott was a Green Lantern without being in the corps.

The Starheart is the name given to all the ambient magical energy in the Universe that the Guardians cleaned up and contained it before making the Manhunters and eventually the Green Lantern Corps. It became slightly sentient and the Guardians hid it in the center of a star - hence Starheart.

The reason Alan Scott has it is that this energy crashed landed on Earth, merged with a ancient dying Green Lantern called Yalan Gur where it was found by Alan who made a Ring and Lantern out of it (influenced by the consciousness of Yalan Gur). This is also the reason that the Starheart is weak to wood because the Guardians had placed that weakness on Yalan Gur after he became tyrannical on Earth.

He became Sentinel around the time of Parallax and Kyle came on the scene, basically DC didn't want anyone but Kyle have the Green Lantern title so his was changed (Guy Gardiner became Warrior, John Stewart a cripple also). He took the name on when he realised that he didn't need the ring anymore and had internalized the Starheart's power.

[ddm92392]

Question: Did Clarks mom die because there has been alot of world epidemics in the DCU for her not to be affected in some way, also what does Krypto do doing thoes epidemics.

[The Question]

Clark's mom was alive and well last time I checked. :huh:

[ddm92392]

I think she secretly has superpowers.

[The Question]

I think she secretly has superpowers.

Why? :huh:

[ddm92392]

IDK I was actually joking but it does seem kinda weird that theres tons of natural disasters in the DCU and yet Martha comes out without a scratch.

[The Question]

IDK I was actually joking but it does seem kinda weird that theres tons of natural disasters in the DCU and yet Martha comes out without a scratch.

You mean like the billions of other people on the planet who survive them?

[ddm92392]

yea...hey wait!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So Krypt is acually from Krypton right? When supes and someone else went to the negative zone or through it and wound up on Fale krypton right?

Also can Krptyo bite through supes skin? And what is the best Krypto story ever told?

[yenaled]

The current Krypto is actually from a false Krypton created by Brainiac-13.

The best Krypto story never got told as it was shelfed by DC because of the Superboy courtcase (it was about what Krypto has done since his master Kon-el died). Though apparently they will release it one day. He's never really had any other spotlights.

[MagicPrime]

Don't forget about Streaky the Super Cat!
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/4/49/Streakycat.png

[TheCorpulent1]

But I tried so hard to. :(

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Don't forget about Streaky the Super Cat!
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/4/49/Streakycat.png

Just looking at that ****ing cat makes me want to kill it!

[Manic]

$5 says Streaky will make his post-Crisis return in Supergirl's comic.

[yenaled]

I don't think there are enough fans of Streaky for anyone to bother to use him again.

[Manic]

No no. Streaky will be back. So will the horse.

Of course, as far as I'm concerned, Ace the Bat-Hound should've made his return before f***ing Krypto.

[yenaled]

Ace was used well in Batman Beyond.

Streak the Wonder Dog, Alan Scott's dog is the king of Animal side-kicks though. He became so popular in the 1940s that he replaced Alan Scott in his own book - Alan became a sidekick to Streak.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hahahahahaha, as much as that sucks for Alan, that's awesome. :D

At least Streak looks like a badass:

http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/streak.jpg

[Manic]

Hahahahahaha, as much as that sucks for Alan, that's awesome. :D

At least Streak looks like a badass:

http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/streak.jpg
For real. Streak is that crazy dog you run away from. Krypto looks like you could punt him.

[The Question]

No no. Streaky will be back. So will the horse.

Of course, as far as I'm concerned, Ace the Bat-Hound should've made his return before f***ing Krypto.

Comet already came back. Albeit as a mystical, transgendered human/angel/centaur hybrid with ice powers:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/CometAngel.JPG

[TheCorpulent1]

That is some freaky ****. Like, freakier-than-David-Bowie ****.

[The Question]

That is some freaky ****. Like, freakier-than-David-Bowie ****.

Peter David has a strange mind.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, he really does. But a good one.

[ddm92392]

that looks cool but I think he'd be pissed if you rode him.

[The Question]

Comet's a He/She, actually.

[ddm92392]

freaky maybe it wont mind...second thought... nevermind ewww

[Kitsune]

Don't forget about Streaky the Super Cat!
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/4/49/Streakycat.png
Or the Superhorse:http://www.superdickery.com/images/dick/97_4_0000336.jpg

[yenaled]

We are already talking about Comet!

Or Peter Davids Lesbian stand-up comedian that turns into a Male winged centaur version of Comet.

[ddm92392]

wow I really dont think I wanna read that comic unless im on acid.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hahaha, the "This Fortress Off Limits to Superman!" sign is a nice touch. :)

[Kitsune]

We are already talking about Comet!

Or Peter Davids Lesbian stand-up comedian that turns into a Male winged centaur version of Comet.

You realize that the original Comet was a centaur who got mistakenly turned into a full horse?
Here's the wiki:
Comet the Super-Horse is a fictional character published by DC Comics. Comet first appeared in Action Comics #292 in September 1962, and was created by Jim Mooney.

One of a series of super-powered animals, including Streaky the Supercat and Beppo the Supermonkey, that was popular in DC's comics of the 1960s. Comet was Supergirl's pet horse and while in his human form as Bill Starr, her brief boyfriend. Comet also had a brief romance with Lois Lane in her comic book.

As he described to her telepathically, he was originally a centaur in ancient Greece named Biron. The witch Circe gave him a potion to turn him fully human, but by mistake made him fully horse instead. Unable to reverse the spell, she instead gave him superpowers, including immortality. Later, after meeting Supergirl, he went on a mission with her to another planet, where a magic spell was cast that turned him into a human, but only while a comet passes through the solar system he is in. As a human, he adopted the identity of "Bronco" Bill Starr, a rodeo trick-rider, whom Supergirl fell in love with.

Comet made sporadic appearances in comic stories through the 1960s, and even became a member of the Legion of Super-Pets, a group consisting of the superpowered animals mentioned above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_(DC_Comics)

[BrianWilly]

No, he didn't. First of all, the fellow was crippled. The legs were there, they just didn't work. Anyway, what he somehow gave that guy a portion of his ability to manipulate the GL ring's energy, so he could from green forcefields around his legs and move them.Uh. No to the first part. The guy had no legs (http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8595/66p04ad9.jpg). They legs were not there (http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/117/66p05bq4.jpg). Kyle made him brand new ones (http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/474/6712ej1.jpg).

[The Question]

Uh. No to the first part. The guy had no legs (http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8595/66p04ad9.jpg). They legs were not there (http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/117/66p05bq4.jpg). Kyle made him brand new ones (http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/474/6712ej1.jpg).

Well, I was half right.

[BrianWilly]

Literally.

HAHAHAHtgjkh get it 'cause the guy has no legs so it's like half? HAHAHFg it's so funny.

[TheCorpulent1]

No, it's really not.

What is funny, however, is how cavalier the guy is in that last link.

Random douche: Your legs!
Legless dude: No, it's cool. Eeeeeeverything's cool, guys, don't worry about. I've lost 'em before. Just gimme, like, ten minutes and I'll be good to go.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

wow I really dont think I wanna read that comic unless im on acid.


Why do people always equate being on acid to seeing crazy ass visuals?

[The Question]

Why do people always equate being on acid to seeing crazy ass visuals?

Because that's something that happens to some people when they're on acid.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Ok here is another question, one which I am sure will probably be a pain in the ass, but oh well so am I.

Of the superheroes and villains that have died. Which have stayed dead and which have come back?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Because that's something that happens to some people when they're on acid.


Yeah, some. But it's always what people assume happens.

[TheCorpulent1]

Because the crazy hallucinations are the most well publicized part of acid and the vast majority of people in the world have never done acid for themselves.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Stupid propoganda!

[ddm92392]

lol but back to the real question, of those that died alot usually come back eventually but I'll start off the list you guys can continue
Ferro lad

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah I know that's why I am so confused.

[TheCorpulent1]

lol but back to the real question, of those that died alot usually come back eventually but I'll start off the list you guys can continue
Ferro lad
Lightning Lad died and came back in Element Lad's body one time.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Lightning Lad died and came back in Element Lad's body one time.

I think he still is isn't he?

[The Question]

If Destiny of The Endless gave up his sigil to The Challangers of the Unknown, doesn't that make one of the Chals the new Destiny?

[WolfCypher]

The current Teen Titans are Robin, Wonder Gilr, Super Girl, Miss Martian, Kid Devil, and Ravager. What is Raven & Jericho currently doing?

[The Leaguer]

Each other.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think he still is isn't he?
No, that was pre-reboot. In the current Legion comics, Lightning Lad is back to being in his own body.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Oh ok. Ahhh all of these reboots screw me up. Are there any other alternate DC universes now? Or is it still just one big one?

[TheCorpulent1]

There are 52 alternate universes parallel to the main DC universe now.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

What? Cheese and rice! Could you fill me in a little Corp? I know the whole 52 thing went down, but I am not sure what happend.

[TheCorpulent1]

Alex Luthor's big, reality-altering machine in Infinite Crisis created a bunch of parallel universes before he was stopped. No one knew about them until Rip Hunter revealed that Mister Mind (a worm that could control minds) had evolved and was feeding on those alternate universes. He, Booster Gold, and Booster's ancestor stopped Mister Mind, but there were only 52 universes left by that time. The existence of the alternate universes is still unknown to most of the superheroes, as far as I know, but they'll probably figure it out soon enough, since more and more alternate versions of characters are starting to appear lately.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Ah....I do remember the whole Infinite Crisis Alexander Luthor thing, but forgot all about it. So what's been happening with Superboy Prime? Any word on that douche?

[trustyside-kick]

Superboy Prime has escaped the Guadians of the Universe's prison, and is now enlisted in the Sinestro Corps along with Cyborg Supes and whatever exactly is left of the Anti-Monitor.

[The Question]

If Destiny of The Endless gave up his sigil to The Challangers of the Unknown, doesn't that make one of the Chals the new Destiny?

Oy?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Superboy Prime has escaped the Guadians of the Universe's prison, and is now enlisted in the Sinestro Corps along with Cyborg Supes and whatever exactly is left of the Anti-Monitor.

A. I thought the Anti-Monitor was dead?

B. Why doesn't Superboy prime just go kill all the heroes on Earth?

[BrianWilly]

A. Well, apparently he got better.

B. It looks like he's going to do just that, in upcoming issues of the Sinestro Corps.

[TheCorpulent1]

Right now he's busy doing some space-brooding. It's like regular brooding, but it's even more emo 'cause it's in space.

[MagicPrime]

Here is my stupid question.

So why is SuperBoy Prime so much more powerful than any of the other Super-men, women, etc.?

[TheCorpulent1]

Because Alex Luthor jacked his power level up, and then he started wearing armor that concentrated yellow solar radiation to further increase his power.

[MagicPrime]

So why doesn't Superman go fly through the core of the Sun and turn all gold and shiny to whoop him.

[TheCorpulent1]

Because Superboy Prime could just follow him through a yellow sun and get even more powerful thanks to the armor. Removing all of their powers under a red sun and eliminating the armor was the most tactically sound way to deal with SBP. After all, without their powers, Superman is still over 6' and 200 lbs., while Superboy Prime is like 5'10" and a pussy.

[MagicPrime]

Another Question:

How long has this "GL Rings Can't use Lethal Force" thing been going on. Because before Hal entered the power battery and turned into Parallax the first time he fragged Kilowog with his ring and it didn't shut down or anything. And I've seen many green lanterns throw objects like Natu was doing to Sinestro and their rings not shut down either.

P.S. > I like your new Avatar Corpulent - the old Iron Man cartoon was awsome.

[Anubis]

Retcon on the no killing with GL rings since the last Crisis.

[TheCorpulent1]

You mean Infinite Crisis, right? I thought that was just a new status quo for the recreated Corps, probably to avoid another incident like Hal's murderous (but not really, according to Johns) rampage, not a retcon. The GL rings have never been capable of killing except under special circumstances now?

Anyway, about Soranik, I don't think the rings shut down if you try to kill someone in general--only if you try to kill someone with the ring.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

A. Well, apparently he got better.

B. It looks like he's going to do just that, in upcoming issues of the Sinestro Corps.


Thank you and

A. What a pussy

B. About damn time. I want to see less crying from this punk ass and more killing.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Because Superboy Prime could just follow him through a yellow sun and get even more powerful thanks to the armor. Removing all of their powers under a red sun and eliminating the armor was the most tactically sound way to deal with SBP. After all, without their powers, Superman is still over 6' and 200 lbs., while Superboy Prime is like 5'10" and a pussy.


I thought it was because SBP still retained his powers from before Crisis On Infinite Earths? That somehow he and the others were in some sort of pocket dimension or something and that allowed him to be unaffected by the events of COIE. So he kept his pre crisis like superman powers and abilities?

I know the whole suit thing that happend in IC but I didn't know Alex Luthor suped him up?

And isn't he like 6'4" 225lbs?

Well in the movies he is supossed to be.

[Anubis]

You mean Infinite Crisis, right? I thought that was just a new status quo for the recreated Corps, probably to avoid another incident like Hal's murderous (but not really, according to Johns) rampage, not a retcon. The GL rings have never been capable of killing except under special circumstances now?





I thought that too at first, but now that I think about it, Sinestro made a few refrences to the fact that GL's couldn't kill. As if it had always kinda been there to keep them from becoming too much of a threat or something. Who knows at this point.

[MagicPrime]

I thought that too at first, but now that I think about it, Sinestro made a few refrences to the fact that GL's couldn't kill. As if it had always kinda been there to keep them from becoming too much of a threat or something. Who knows at this point.

See, thats just it - I've never heard of that limitation until recently.

Maybe Alan Scott will just fly in and blow up Sinestro's head, he can do whatever the hell he wants with his powers. Reason #1 why Alan is the best.

And what about John Stewart blasting that Spider Sinestro Corpsman sniper. Was that big green blast just like a can of Willpower mace?

Personally I think a GL needs the power to use lethal force if necessary. And what if a GL was trying to stop a battle cruiser and tried to cut it in half. Would the ring stop working because cutting it in half would kill the inhabitants of the ship?

For rookies i can understand having a default "Safety" installed in the rings, but I think a senior corpsman like Hal, Kyle, Guy, Kilowog should be able to arbitrarily over-ride it if the situation calls.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe Alan Scott will just fly in and blow up Sinestro's head, he can do whatever the hell he wants with his powers. Reason #1 why Alan is the best.
Unless Sinestro's packing wood. Thanks a lot, Johns. :o
And what about John Stewart blasting that Spider Sinestro Corpsman sniper. Was that big green blast just like a can of Willpower mace?
That confused me too, but I guess he somehow kept the gun nonlethal.
For rookies i can understand having a default "Safety" installed in the rings, but I think a senior corpsman like Hal, Kyle, Guy, Kilowog should be able to arbitrarily over-ride it if the situation calls.
If it's a reaction to Hal's actions as Parallax, that wouldn't really make much sense.

[MagicPrime]

Stupid Question:

Last comic I read with Booster Gold saw him dead as a doornail. Skeleton in his suit after stopping a big explosion or something like that (I was quickly reading in a Borders as the workers eyeballed me) So did that kill him and if so has he been brought back and how?

[The Question]

Stupid Question:

Last comic I read with Booster Gold saw him dead as a doornail. Skeleton in his suit after stopping a big explosion or something like that (I was quickly reading in a Borders as the workers eyeballed me) So did that kill him and if so has he been brought back and how?

His death was a ruse. He and Rip Hunter took Booster's corpse from a future point in some timeline where he's dead, and planted it to trick Skeets, who was really Mr. Mind, into thinking Booster was out of the picture.

[MagicPrime]

Cool thanks.

My comic range has shrunk exponentially since moving out of the dorms.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I think that's the second time I've seen you mention that....today. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey so what's the deal with Bart Allen being the Flash?

And is Wally West dead?

[The Leaguer]

No, Hal Jordan is the Flash now, because Geoff Johns doesn't want anyone faster than Hal Jordan.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

No, Hal Jordan is the Flash now, because Geoff Johns doesn't want anyone faster than Hal Jordan.


LMFAO.....Ahhhh that was good. I think I found a new sig for now.

[TheCorpulent1]

No, Hal Jordan is the Flash now, because Geoff Johns doesn't want anyone faster than Hal Jordan.
I believe it. :up:

[trustyside-kick]

I thought it was because SBP still retained his powers from before Crisis On Infinite Earths? That somehow he and the others were in some sort of pocket dimension or something and that allowed him to be unaffected by the events of COIE. So he kept his pre crisis like superman powers and abilities?

I know the whole suit thing that happend in IC but I didn't know Alex Luthor suped him up?

And isn't he like 6'4" 225lbs?

Well in the movies he is supossed to be.

Well, you could just so easily except the fact that maybe the Superman that would've have come to be on Earth Prime would've been superior to begin with. Like How Earth 2 Supes was the "juggling planets kind of Supes". I think that's enough justification as to why Emoboy Prime was so powerful. He's a varation of Supes on a different level; and more powerful. That would've been enough for me to except; no need for the special suit.

[trustyside-kick]

I thought that too at first, but now that I think about it, Sinestro made a few refrences to the fact that GL's couldn't kill. As if it had always kinda been there to keep them from becoming too much of a threat or something. Who knows at this point.

Yea I think it was a retcon too. Because Sinestro talked about that as a weakness about the ring since you cannot truly do everything your mind desires. He made it sound like it was something he always disliked from when even he was a lantern; in hindsight at least.

[Fledermaus]

This isn't a stupid question, but a stupid observation:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Sam655321/sman.jpg

Superman Prime?

[Mister J]

It may have something to do with the Siegel litigation. DC might have had Emoboy-Prime adopted the Superman name because Kal-L is dead.

Or it could just be a huge ****up.

[The Question]

Maybe Emoboy doesn't take kindly to being called boy anymore.

[Tropico]

Someone in the pages of GLC commented that he had grown his first pube and they decided to start calling him man. Soranik Natu was doing some weird long distance physical check up with her ring and found out. Salaak said he didn't give that order and Natu was all like "You're not the boss of me." and quickly left.:o

[Anubis]

lol

They officially changed his name to Superman Prime a while ago. Because of the whole law suit thing.

[Fledermaus]

I guess I didn't get the memo. :csad:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well, you could just so easily except the fact that maybe the Superman that would've have come to be on Earth Prime would've been superior to begin with. Like How Earth 2 Supes was the "juggling planets kind of Supes". I think that's enough justification as to why Emoboy Prime was so powerful. He's a varation of Supes on a different level; and more powerful. That would've been enough for me to except; no need for the special suit.


I like my theory :up:

[Anubis]

Hey so what's the deal with Bart Allen being the Flash?

And is Wally West dead?


Correction, he was the Flash, for about thirteen issues, then he got killed by the Rogues and that clone of his.

Wally's back thanks to the silver age Legion of Superheros.

[trustyside-kick]

Technically Inertia isn't dead; he's completely immobile. He will forever remain in the Flash Museum like one of the wax statues, looking upon the man he would never become; if you'd like to get technical. :oldrazz:

[TheCorpulent1]

Correction, he was the Flash, for about thirteen issues, then he got killed by the Rogues and that clone of his.

Wally's back thanks to the silver age Legion of Superheros.
Does anyone understand why the Silver Age Legion decided to bring Wally back yet? Because I still don't.

[Fledermaus]

It was said that they didn't get the Flash they expected. Right?

[Prognosticator]

Does anyone understand why the Silver Age Legion decided to bring Wally back yet? Because I still don't.

I thought it was "important to their future", in an undisclosed-answers-will-come-in-the- form-of-fragments-someday sort of way.

[BrianWilly]

To be continued in: COUNTDOWN TO FINAL CRISIS!

[TheCorpulent1]

Huh. Funny how no one in the DC universe is questioning that, either. Not even Wally and his newly supergeniusified wife.

[Anubis]

Actually, it's supposed to be a Legion crossover which includes the Silver age, the current Legion, and the one they had before the Current Legion.

[TheCorpulent1]

Why do I get a "... which will result in their merging into one cohesive Legion by the end of it" feeling from that description?

[Anubis]

Because it's probably what's going to go down, hence the new look they're gonna be getting soon.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't mind that, actually, so long as they keep at least the political overtones of the Waid reboot. Some of the Legionnaires kind of sucked under Waid. I'm looking at you, Karate Kid and Element Lad. Yeah. Sucked.

Oh, and I also want the Waid versions of Shrinking Violet, Brainiac 5, Cosmic Boy, Shadow Lass, and Colossal/Micro Lad to stick around. They were all gold.

[Tropico]

I rather they didn't merge them and just make the different Legions be from different Earths.

[The Question]

I don't mind that, actually, so long as they keep at least the political overtones of the Waid reboot. Some of the Legionnaires kind of sucked under Waid. I'm looking at you, Karate Kid and Element Lad. Yeah. Sucked.

I've got to say, I much prefered the mentally unstable, genocidal Elder God version of Element Lad.

[Miss Webb]

How many Hal vs Kyle wars have there been over the last few years :huh: :cwink:

[Darthphere]

They've died down considerably since Hal's return.

[yenaled]

Does anyone understand why the Silver Age Legion decided to bring Wally back yet? Because I still don't.

They didn't, they brought someone else back who is still in the lightning rods. Wally just hitchhiked.

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought he was pulled away from where he was.
They've died down considerably since Hal's return.
'Cause the Hal fans be the ones who always startin' ****, son. Yeah, what?

:dry:

[Anubis]

There's really only one Hal fan around here, and he's kinda brain damaged as I recall.

[Darthphere]

There's really on one Hal fan around here, and he's kinda brain damaged as I recall.

Doc isn't brain damaged.

[Anubis]

I was refuring to that other guy, but awesome way to sneak in an unprovoked jab. :up:

[Darthphere]

I was refuring to that other guy, but awesome way to sneak in an unprovoked jab. :up:

ASSHAT rules.

[Anubis]

Viva LE Asshat!

[Doc Destruction]

LOL oh that's why.

I'm sort of an all GL fan...not just a Hal fan. Hence, no brain damage. Well, not for THAT reason.

[Prognosticator]

Huh. Funny how no one in the DC universe is questioning that, either. Not even Wally and his newly supergeniusified wife.

Yeah, I wish more heroes would question things, and quit occasionally pondering them.


Superman: "Hmm, I wonder why the Collector would say there were three Kryptonians when by my count, I'm looking at four, plus or minus another seven in the coming months......meh, I'm sure it's nothing."


:whatever: = :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's one thing to shuffle plots around and have a bunch of things on the back burner, but it's quite another for Wally to show up back on New Earth and be like, "Huh. I'm here again now? Eh, good enough for me. Might as well take the fam back to Keystone and buy m'self a house."

[trustyside-kick]

Has there been some rumor about DiDio being "let go" or "going away" or something? I over-read something like that on the DC boards. Somehow it was brought up in some Aquaman thread. New old news to me, cause someone said this rumor is months old.

[BrianWilly]

There was kind of a rumor going around a while back that Mark Waid was going to be promoted to a very prominent position, likely an EIC, so that grew into the rumor that he might be taking over for DiDio.

Well, it was halfway true; as we know now, Waid recently became the EIC of Boom! comics. Unfortunately, the DiDio portion of the story seems to have been just rumors.

[Colossal Spoons]

Outsiders: worth jumping back into with the new roster?

Metal Men and Infinity Inc: worth reading?

[yenaled]

Metal Men is worth all of your time.

[Agentdemon]

Edit

[BrianWilly]

The new run of Outsiders and Infinity Inc just started, like, five or six seconds ago, so your guess is as good as ours. They don't look like they'll suck, if that helps.

[TheCorpulent1]

Infinity Inc. kinda looked like it'd suck in the previews.

[The Leaguer]

It did. Holy god, it did.

[TheCorpulent1]

Affirmative.

[The Leaguer]

Correct.

[Anubis]

Good thing I chose the stay away from that tripe.

[TheCorpulent1]

Good thing I chose the stay away from that tripe.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/billadama.jpg "So say we all."

[Dr. Fate]

Was Barry Allen really the fastest Flash of them all?

[Miss Webb]

Will people ever stop debating about whether Obsidian should have been made gay? :huh: At the DC boards that topic's been flaming for months. No pun intended.

[BrianWilly]

Was Barry Allen really the fastest Flash of them all?No. Both Wally West and Bart Allen have proven themselves faster. Well, technically, Wally has proven himself faster, and Wally has stated that Bart's at least as fast as himself.

Will people ever stop debating about whether Obsidian should have been made gay? :huh: At the DC boards that topic's been flaming for months. No pun intended.Official boards are the epicenter of the slow bubbling crazy.

[Tropico]

Will people ever stop debating about whether Obsidian should have been made gay? :huh: At the DC boards that topic's been flaming for months. No pun intended.

If there's still a Firestorm board run on over and see if there's still debate about how people didn't give Jason a chance because he's black and how Firestorm fans are racist.

People can talk all they want about the Hype, but many of the DC Boards people are very "special".

[trustyside-kick]

Reading the Aquaman Archives Volume 1, I've come to notice a few things. A butt-load, if not all, of Aquaman's villains in the early Silver Age (before becoming King of Atlantis) had something huge in common: they were always fakes. They would do certain things, and then Aquaman would show them for what they really were; con-artists.

This trend wasn't too rare though. Because being also a Batman fan, I'm aware of the fact that a lot of his villains at this time period shared something in common as well: a gimmick or obsession with something to an extreme measure.

So, with Aquaman's villains and Batman's villains in the early Silver Age having certain similarities, what about the rest of the DCU heroes that had their own books? Superman? The Flash? Green Lantern? Hawkman?

I know a lot of these traits and similarities carried over into the Modern Age, but I'm curious which heroes' villains had huge similarities. Anyone know?

[Dr. Fate]

No. Both Wally West and Bart Allen have proven themselves faster. Well, technically, Wally has proven himself faster, and Wally has stated that Bart's at least as fast as himself.

Thank you.

Some sources continue to insist that Barry was the fastest, and I'm not sure why.

[MagicPrime]

If there's still a Firestorm board run on over and see if there's still debate about how people didn't give Jason a chance because he's black and how Firestorm fans are racist.

People can talk all they want about the Hype, but many of the DC Boards people are very "special".

I was just pissed because Ron got the shaft during Identity Crisis. :cmad:

[Tropico]

I was just pissed because Ron got the shaft during Identity Crisis. :cmad:

A lot of people were pissed because he got the shaft before ID.C. There was no need to substitute the character when the fan base was already there and that's what pissed them off. The writer also made some unkind comments before the title came out so a lot of old Flamehead fans decided to boycott the book. It had nothing to do with the character's race. But people still insisted that it was because of that.

It's ludicrous that a year after the title had come out the debate was still raging. I haven't been to the DC boards in months (maybe a year?), but I wouldn't be surprised if they're still going on about it.

[Steve Rogers]

Okay, I got a stupid DC question:

Why is Superman so muscular? What can he possibly be lifting that gives him a workout?

[Manic]

Okay, I got a stupid DC question:

Why is Superman so muscular? What can he possibly be lifting that gives him a workout?
I'm guessing here, but I'd say absorbing the yellow sun rays builds his body up to peak physical condition. I mean, it's not like anything really gives him a workout, and I don't think he needs to metabolize food.

[TheCorpulent1]

But I'm pretty sure he eats anyway. So if he doesn't need to metabolize food, but he's eating food anyway, wouldn't that mean it's all just fattening him up? Or does it just pass straight through him so that he poops out perfectly intact steaks and salads and stuff exactly as he ate them? Something to ponder...

[Dr. Fate]

And now the stupidest question of all: what is it exactly that Selina Kyle does when not being Catwoman (at least prior to her having a kid)

[TheCorpulent1]

She steals ****.

[Manic]

But I'm pretty sure he eats anyway. So if he doesn't need to metabolize food, but he's eating food anyway, wouldn't that mean it's all just fattening him up? Or does it just pass straight through him so that he poops out perfectly intact steaks and salads and stuff exactly as he ate them? Something to ponder...
Maybe he doesn't need to metabolize food, but still has a super-metabolism. Like, the food is broken down so efficiently, he doesn't need to poop!
And now the stupidest question of all: what is it exactly that Selina Kyle does when not being Catwoman (at least prior to her having a kid)
Fencing?

[Tropico]

Plan for her next heist.

Or.

Masturbate. Everyone knows when you have too much time on your hands and you're bored you wind up doing it.

[Anubis]

tell me about it.

[ddm92392]

Lol.

[trustyside-kick]

Anyone know where this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Teen_Titans_Year_1.jpg) picture is from?

I'm guessing it could be some sort of a Year One cover, but I wasn't sure if there was one for the TT. The cartoony art really caught my eye, cause I love it when they do that with Year Ones.

[yenaled]

The Teen Titans Year One that will be released one day.

[trustyside-kick]

What's the current date it is supposed to come out? I'm guessing since you said "someday" that the date has been changing?

[yenaled]

I don't think it has ever been given a date, I could be wrong though.

[Dr. Fate]

Why does Hal Jordan look like Cyclops from X-Men?

[Archangel]

Cause he's a male comic book archetype with light brown hair?

[SenseiofCheese]

I've heard it mentioned a lot of times, but what exactly is this Salvation Run series about, and who is involved?

[Fledermaus]

http://www.newsarama.com/Comic-Con_07/DC/SalvationRun.html

[TheCorpulent1]

I saw Bill Willingham's name as the writer and I was instantly wary. I'm starting to think Willingham really shouldn't write anything other than Fables. At least, nothing that's in the mainstream DC universe.

[The Leaguer]

I'm down. I enjoyed his Robin run, I like Shadowpact, other than the disgraceful degree to which he gets Zauriel wrong, and I liked War Crimes.

[TheCorpulent1]

I hated War Crimes and Shadowpact has kind of hovered between okay and crappy. Robin was good, but I may just be remembering it more fondly relative to Beechen's ****-fest.

[Dragmire]

Is Karate Kid white/asian or a healthy mix of the two?

[batnkevlar]

Pre-Crisis and Zer Hour have him as white, but the new run has him as asian I believe... and way to go... I mean, I don't see why you can't change races of Legion members like the new Starboy...

[Tropico]

Is Karate Kid white/asian or a healthy mix of the two?
He was half Asian in the Pre-Crisis days, which is the one that's appearing in Countdown. The character design for the later reboots, including the current Waid one, show him with marked Asian features. They've never dealt with his race/ethnicity in the recent versions.

[Dragmire]

Yeah, I couldn't tell in some of the newer stories. On covers he'll appear mixed but in panels, he's all white.

[BrianWilly]

In the future, everyone is Asian.

[Manic]

In the future, everyone is Asian.
Spoken like a true Firefly fan.

[BrianWilly]

And an Asian!

[TheCorpulent1]

BrianWilly is Karate Kid! :wow:

[Dragmire]

Only if it's Pre-Crisis BrianWilly.

[BrianWilly]

There are two of me right now, just not on the same Earth.

[Fledermaus]

Anti-Matter BrianWilly is straight and hates Firefly.

[TheCorpulent1]

Anti-Matter BrianWilly is straight and hates Firefly.
:wow:

[trustyside-kick]

This was brought up a while back in that JLA VS. X-Men thread but it got me thinking. But before I say this, it has nothing to do with me being a huge Aquaman fan. I am merely looking at this in a completely non-biased manner:

Corp I believe made a note about the time Aquaman bested the mental defenses of one of the White Martians, giving him a seizure and such. He then made a comment about how absurd the idea was, because the fact that White Martians are powerful telepaths, and always have mental shields up.

However, Aquaman has been a telepath all his life as well. And while his telepathy has grown and expanded, it has always been strong with sea life. So the fact that Aquaman was able to break the mental defenses through a membrane alike to the marine life, whether the Martian was caught off guard or not, doesn't it kind of make sense? One life-long telepath against another, and the victor is the one who finds the "weak spot": the area he is more atune with. You could look at it as if the White Martian were fighting back, it found difficulty because of the difference in anatomy.

Course, the main arguement could be that the only reason he was able to do so was the White Martian wasn't expecting it or wasn't keeping his guard up.

[Tropico]

I'm an Aqua fan and I find that it was really forced. I didn't read the comic but I read that it was something about vestigial parts of the brain because Martians had evolved from sea life? That is pushing it. Going up against a being that has broader uses for his telepathy (including shielding and offensive attacks) is pushing it further. Sure, there was a time when they had amped Orin's telepathic "sends" (after the Kordax encounter), but it was used only in the Aqua comic and not acknowledged anywhere else. I don't think any writer has ever used it since. Orin's telepathy is mostly used for communication, they had even retconned that he controlled sea life and made it so it was just communication. So I don't see how it could be used offensively like he did, especially since what he did was basically invade a totally alien mind. It's a cool Aqua feat, but one that should have everyone going WTF?! including us Aqua fans.

[trustyside-kick]

I don't recall them retconning him "controlling" sea life. Course, I can see the arguments because a few times it was mentioned how he communicated with them, and they acted accordingly to his wishes because of their respect to him rather than being forced to. But if you ask me it is because he didn't force it upon them. So that's why I think a feat such as the White Martian thing wasn't so far "out there" in a way.

Not just I don't recall reading it rectonned, but in JLA: Crisis of Conscience (which is a recent story technically concerning the real Aquaman), after the cool fist fight with Despero, he teams up with Martian Manhunter attacking with telepathy.

[Tropico]

I don't recall them retconning him "controlling" sea life. Course, I can see the arguments because a few times it was mentioned how he communicated with them, and they acted accordingly to his wishes because of their respect to him rather than being forced to. But if you ask me it is because he didn't force it upon them. So that's why I think a feat such as the White Martian thing wasn't so far "out there" in a way.

Not just I don't recall reading it rectonned, but in JLA: Crisis of Conscience (which is a recent story technically concerning the real Aquaman), after the cool fist fight with Despero, he teams up with Martian Manhunter attacking with telepathy.

Really? I recall when Charybdis wanted to steal his powers Orin clearly explains how his powers work. I believe that the worst he could do was "cajole" them, I think that was the word that was used. He goes on to explain why Charybdis wouldn't be able to get the piranhas to do what he wanted, no matter how much he tried to communicate with him. He had trouble with some blood crazed sharks a couple of issues later because he couldn't control them. Yeah, he explains that they become practically mindless in that state, but before that new volume he had been able to do it. So, in a way it's kind of a retcon. Of course, after Kordax and the Clear he was back to controlling; to a greater degree than before even. He even managed to get one of the Millennium Giants attention with one of his most powerful "sends" (or, did he hurt it? I don't remember).

Anyway, that's just one of the inconsistencies Orin has had to go through in his career. Even without the controlling aspect his Martian feat is very far fetched IMO. They're warriors, the have psi training, it's a totally foreign mind and it was, what?, a vestigial part of the brain. C'mon. The vestigial part is the clencher for me.

[trustyside-kick]

I guess. But hey...I've read a buttload of Aquaman stuff, and am only lacking in the Silver Age and a few JLA stories with him...what's this "Clear" everyone is talking about? I have a feeling I read it, but don't remember or didn't pay attention. :wow:

[yenaled]

Clear is the Oceanic form of Animal Man's Red or Swamp Thing's Green. Where the Red is the connection of all Animal Life and the Green is the connection of all plant life.

[Tropico]

Exactly!