The Official DC Stupid Question Thread....

[Colossal Spoons]

Is Dr.Fate gettin an ongoing when this mini w/ Eclipso is finished?

Is "JSA Classified" worth reading? I wanna know more about 'em and can't wait 2 months between "JSA"s

[Spike_x1]

Corp, wicked sig. :woot::up:
It's cool to see creative talent express their actual opinions on stuff, rather than the usual pretense of everyone in the industry being part of a big happy family.

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, yeah, there was a little feud between them. It's so true, too. I wonder if Liefeld actually thinks he's a better artist than Rags...

[trustyside-kick]

That is one funny fight.

[sethcohen]

Heh, yeah, there was a little feud between them. It's so true, too. I wonder if Liefeld actually thinks he's a better artist than Rags...
im just shocked liefeld thinks hes an artist... ive seen fingerpainting by thumbless retarded monkeys with more depth and correct anatomy

[Hush]

Damn that sig is amazing Corp i clicked the Link and Rags owned him big time!

[WolfCypher]

Has Wonder Woman gone back to using a secret identity? If not, then what was up with her recently bringing back her "Diana Prince" alias?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, she's using a secret identity again. She's also totally human when she transforms into Diana Prince now.

[Varient]

Yes, she's using a secret identity again. She's also totally human when she transforms into Diana Prince now.


And she chooses a job that can get her killed if she does it wrong.

Meh.

[Anubis]

But she's so badass without the powers, she don't care if she could get killed easier.

[BrianWilly]

And she chooses a job that can get her killed if she does it wrong.

Meh.This is, of course, different from her old job which could get her killed if she did it wrong. And did, at least twice.

:word:

[Nathan Petrelli]

Probably the stupidest question here:

I stopped reading comics about 10 years ago because the comic shop shut down and I had no time to drive an hour to the other one, but I was an exlcusive Batman reader, I moved to a new area and there is a huge comic store here, where should I pick up where I left off?

[Varient]

This is, of course, different from her old job which could get her killed if she did it wrong. And did, at least twice.

:word:

Just saying,....

If I had a non-super identity - I'd be like,....

Wine tester,

Go-cart test pilot,

Car wash cashier,

Laudremat changemaker,

Hospital massuese for pretty women between the ages of 18 and 50 with "magic hands".


You know,... fairly safe, slightly boring jobs that bring in moderate cash.

V.

[Varient]

Probably the stupidest question here:

I stopped reading comics about 10 years ago because the comic shop shut down and I had no time to drive an hour to the other one, but I was an exlcusive Batman reader, I moved to a new area and there is a huge comic store here, where should I pick up where I left off?

ten years ago?

((((((shudder)))))

We need to sic' an active Batman fan on you.

[Anubis]

Just go to Wikipedia and read up on what you missed, then grab either Batman or Detective Comics.

[Nathan Petrelli]

haha yes, 10 long years.

Not only because I lived so far away, but my girlfriends during that time cost money, and you know how that goes... Earn 2 dollars and lose 3.. :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Is Dr.Fate gettin an ongoing when this mini w/ Eclipso is finished?

Is "JSA Classified" worth reading? I wanna know more about 'em and can't wait 2 months between "JSA"s

Yeeaahh

[Anubis]

No ongoing as far as I know.

Depends on the writing team.

[incubat]

Just saying,....

If I had a non-super identity - I'd be like,....

Wine tester,

Go-cart test pilot,

Car wash cashier,

Laudremat changemaker,

Hospital massuese for pretty women between the ages of 18 and 50 with "magic hands".


You know,... fairly safe, slightly boring jobs that bring in moderate cash.

V.

yeah... I wouldn't do that. Think about it, it's usually those people that get killed in the background...

[Artistsean]

I think I missed the Club of Heroes Batman story,
Who was the mysterious bad guy?

[Anubis]

The guy who started the Club of Heroes.

[Artistsean]

Who was that again?
I got the first issue and then never saw any of the others come out.

[SenseiofCheese]

I just read Batman #673 and.....what the hell did I just read?

[CBG]

I just read Batman #673 and.....what the hell did I just read?

A story by Grant Morrison!

[Anubis]

Read it three times, you'll probably get it after the third, fifth tops.

[Varient]

Read it three times, you'll probably get it after the third, fifth tops.

damn.

[Anubis]

As a person who has read Morrison's Doom Patrol and some Invisibles, it is absolutely essential, that you read it more than ten times to get the correct understanding of just what's going on. Though you can cut that number in half by dropping acid and or taking some shrooms before sitting down to read.

[CBG]

Well, that, or you're just as crazy as he is and thus, will get it one the first read.

. . . Are any of us that crazy?

[Anubis]

Leaguer. possibly....Brittney Spears.

[TheCorpulent1]

You need to take two mind-altering drugs to understand Morrison's stories? Damn, no wonder I don't get half his stuff. I've only been taking the one.

[CBG]

I don't know. I think you have to throw in a near-death experience into the mix.

[WompuM]

like what? checking out the smallville boards?

[TheCorpulent1]

Hiyo!

[Lobo]

Is Robin worth reading right now? The cover of 170 caught my eye so should I buy it?

[TheCorpulent1]

Dixon and Batista's first issue was pretty good. Batista's, like, a million steps up from Williams and Dixon's story seems interesting. It basically feels like old-school Robin from Dixon's earlier run. Only Tim is still, sadly, Bruce's adopted son. :o

[yahman]

Do you think an Elijah Snow suit would look decent in real life? I noticed Elijah is quite porky and i have the Arian look to match, so i think it would look pretty cool, but the Missus is adamant that it wouldn't.

[TheCorpulent1]

Are you going to dye your hair platinum blonde? I don't think it'd work unless you do that and you're super-pale. Normal caucasian skin tone with an all-white suit just looks weird to me.

[Superunknown]

I hate to repeat the same question twice. But where the heck is JSA# 12. I stopped by the shop today saw nothing but the previous 3 back issues. What's going on here, is it late?

[WompuM]

Wednesday i beleive

[WompuM]

and you can check diamondcomics.com for shipping lists

[CBG]

What do you think the 'DC' of DC Comics should stand for? (other than the Detective Comics)

No using "DiDio" as part of the D.

[Varient]

What do you think the 'DC' of DC Comics should stand for? (other than the Detective Comics)

No using "DiDio" as part of the D.



?
I thought it stood for "Direct Comics"


hmph.

[Superunknown]

Wednesday i believeThis coming Wednesday or was it last week's Wednesday?

[uchiha_itachi]

Heh.

NOT A TRANNIE.

http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5030&stc=1&d=1201117810

What story is that from? :whatever:

[CBG]

All-Star Batman & Robin the Boy Wonder #1 by Jim Lee and Frank Miller.

[uchiha_itachi]

gotta love jim lee lol

[Anubis]

Yeah, he does an awesome Trannie Viki vale.

[TheCorpulent1]

Totally. Check out the package on her.

[WompuM]

This coming Wednesday or was it last week's Wednesday?

Feb. 6

[Lobo]

Dixon and Batista's first issue was pretty good. Batista's, like, a million steps up from Williams and Dixon's story seems interesting. It basically feels like old-school Robin from Dixon's earlier run. Only Tim is still, sadly, Bruce's adopted son. :o

I bought it prtty good , I'll pick up the rest of the storyline

[CBG]

gotta love jim lee lol

Piece of trivia about Jim.

When he comes to drawing the bodies of women in comics -- like these -- he somewhat gets inspiration from looking at himself in the mirror.

Those who were at the Jim Lee panel at the Canadian National Comic Book Expo 2006 can confirm this. Well, if they remember.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, big deal. Not everyone can afford models, and Jim's a pretty skinny guy...

[CBG]

True.

Other bit of trivia: Jim Lee can't really draw dogs.

For the Infinite Crisis #5 cover, he modeled Krypto's head after a rat.

[TheCorpulent1]

If that's the case, it's not that he can't draw these things, it's that he's apparently insane and picks terrible references for them...

[WompuM]

Infinite Crisis #4 actually

*pushes up glasses*

[CBG]

If that's the case, it's not that he can't draw these things, it's that he's apparently insane and picks terrible references for them...

Understandable.

He's a great, funny guy in person, whether he'd be signing stuff or talking in the panel.

Infinite Crisis #4 actually

*pushes up glasses*

Ah. My mistake.

[Artistsean]

What was DC's first character crossover?
What was DC's first meeting of two characters from different comics?
And what year was it?

[Darthphere]

Someone help me out with this.

In the beginning of Grant Morrison's run on Batman, we get the the whole Batman shoots the Joker in the face splash page, but we find out it really wasn't Batman. Did we ever find out who that person was? Because all I remember is some roided up version of Batman almost breaking his back again.

[Mister J]

Gordon remarked that it was some ex-cop who had gone crazy and decided to clean up the city himself. I don't recall any mention of him since then, in terms of an named identity or anything.

[WompuM]

It was the first of Morrison's 3 visions of Batman. Or rather Batman's fears I suppose?
-Batman with a gun
-Bane-like Batman
-Batman w/ no mercy

or something like that.

[sethcohen]

and all 3 are former cops apparently

[WompuM]

Man, if final crisis is half as good as this we're in great shape.:whatever:

[TheCorpulent1]

Is Morrison's run just basically about throwing other versions of Batman and Robin at Batman?

[WompuM]

Not robin really, oh unless you mean Damien.

[Darthphere]

So those guys were never caught?

[Doc Destruction]

One of them just saved Batman's life from the other one.

[TheCorpulent1]

Not robin really, oh unless you mean Damien.
He dresses like Robin and is the "son of Batman." Sounds like a Robin wannabe to me, at least as much as those random cops are Batmen.

[WompuM]

Does anyone else find it odd that The black Dossier's ending was so insanely similar to South Park's Imaginationland?

[Artistsean]

Can anyone tell me more about OMAC, the One Man Army Corps?
Wikipedia doesn't have much information about him.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/omac2.jpg

I was wondering what are his powers?
What weapons does he use?
Is there just one of him or is he part of an entire Corps like Green Lantern?

[WompuM]

Let's just all pretend I didnt get wasted and post on here last night.

[JTStarkiller]

What's the story of the Waynes' murder in current continuity? Did Joe Chill do it, and if so does Bruce know he did? Is Chill in prison/dead/loose? Or do we not know?

Thanks in advance.

[hippy fascist]

Given how weak superman gets when he comes into contact with kryptonite couldn't a villain simply chop off his arms and legs and leave him a quadraplegic rather than simply walking away and "hoping" the kryptonite will kill him?

Or even just cut off his head? :huh:

[Manic]

Given how weak superman gets when he comes into contact with kryptonite couldn't a villain simply chop off his arms and legs and leave him a quadraplegic rather than simply walking away and "hoping" the kryptonite will kill him?

Or even just cut off his head? :huh:
You're assuming villains think logically. I mean, these are the idiots who manage to knock out superheroes, and then (rather than shooting them while they're unconscious) strap them to large machinery and attempt to slowly torture them to death. Nevermind how few villains ever bother unmasking heroes when they have the chance...

[CBG]

Kryptonite's effects on Superman has been inconsistent over the years.

For example, compare Superman/Batman with Infinite Crisis.

In S/B, Superman's pretty much incapcitated with Kryptonite shrapnel in the face.

IC, flying through the irradiated remains of Krypton, through Rao, and amongst Kryptonite, he manages to not only stand and move but KO SBP of all characters. Heck, Superman also got Kryptonite smashed in his face too to boot there.

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought Kryptonite wasn't Kryptonite until it was irradiated by yellow sunlight.

[hippy fascist]

could superman still fly if you chopped off his arms and legs? :huh:

[Anubis]

Yes.

[hippy fascist]

why has this not been tried yet? :huh:

the storytelling possibilities are endless :up:

[Anubis]

Not really. Supes flies into people at super speed. That's pretty much it.

[hippy fascist]

but would they grow back?

[Anubis]

Possibly. With the help of a solar lamp and some shots of the purple ray.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Purple Ray is cheating. Superman could regrow his head with that thing. :o

[Anubis]

True, Batman regrew from paste after that beating Supes put on him.

[WompuM]

Is the Purple Healing Ray more, less, or equally as powerful as the Purple Death Ray? And wouldn't the two be easily confused with disastrous results?

[BrianWilly]

Well, basically yes. Which is why the Amazons didn't just pass it around like candy.

[Anubis]

Well, there was that one time that Amazon got whore lip from Hades and in her haste mixed the two up. But that's why they moved it up to the top shelf instead of right next to the Purple Healing Ray. :o

[Artistsean]

Can anyone tell me more about OMAC, the One Man Army Corps?
Wikipedia doesn't have much information about him.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/omac2.jpg

I was wondering what are his powers?
What weapons does he use?
Is there just one of him or is he part of an entire Corps like Green Lantern?
Anyone?

[WompuM]

no idea. buy the omac countdown special.

[Anubis]

Or the OMAC Kirby omnibus.

From what I know, he had super strength, and could pretty much do whatever the situation required, much like the new universe counterparts. There was only one, hence the name One Man Army Corps (duh), and he worked for a clandestine peace keeping force. He was also the grandpa of Kamandi, the last boy on Earth. Of course, what I know about the character is mostly hearsay.

[TheCorpulent1]

His name was Buddy Blank.

[Anubis]

He has a mohawk.

[CorpusBlack]

His boots match his gauntlets.

[TheCorpulent1]

There's an eye on his chest.

[Anubis]

He doesn't like it when people steal water.

[CorpusBlack]

He's got a killer pose.

[TheCorpulent1]

He's completely oblivious to the poor fish dying in front of him.

[Silicon Surfer]

I thought Kryptonite wasn't Kryptonite until it was irradiated by yellow sunlight.

Kryptonite is Kryptonite anywhere but at least formerly it had no effect on non-powered Kryptonians. With all the changes in continuity however...

[Superunknown]

My stupid question for this week... If Mr. Terrific is the 3rd smartest in the world, who's the 1st?

[The Question]

My stupid question for this week... If Mr. Terrific is the 3rd smartest in the world, who's the 1st?

Probably T.O. Morrow or some mad scientist like that.

[hippy fascist]

this may be wrong but I've gotta go with batman on this one :huh:

[Superunknown]

Well if Terrific is the "Reed Richards" of the DCU (which I've heard, how accurate that is I don't know) then I couldn't go with Batman on this one. I've never seen Batman create technology that's boarder lining on magic LOL!

[Anubis]

this may be wrong but I've gotta go with batman on this one :huh:

Not even in the top ten.

If everything is going back to Silver Age status quo, Lex should be the smartest, followed by possibly T.O. Morrow, then Mr. T. After that you got Will Magnus, Niles Caulder, Ray Palmer, and a s**t load of other big brains that you may or may not have heard of. Batman's smart, yes. Smart enough to understand lots of different tech and chemistry stuff. But most of what he has or what he knows, he's gotten from other people. And theres nothing wrong with that. Batman is a jack of all trades, but master of only one, and that's detective skills.

[CBG]

Didn't Bruce himself admit that Wesley Dodds (GA Sandman) was a better detective than he?

[Anubis]

Wes is dead. Guess that makes him #1.

[WompuM]

Detective skills don't equal intelligence. cough*ralph*cough

I never realized T.O.Morrow was that smart. They said in countdown that Ted Kord could never create a universe hopping vest, but Lex Luthor and Ray Palmer could.

How smart is Hank Pym? (say compared to Ted or Ray)

[Anubis]

Considering he created perfect AI in Ultron, i'd say pretty up there. Noble Prize if it weren't for the robot wanting to kill all humans.

[WompuM]

Considering he created perfect AI in Ultron, i'd say pretty up there. Noble Prize if it weren't for the robot wanting to kill all humans.

Who's he referring to here?

[Anubis]

What?

[WompuM]

Who created Ultron is what I was asking.

[Anubis]

Hank Pym.

[Hush]

Who created Ultron is what I was asking.

There is a thread for that kind of stuff its call The Offical Marvel Stupid Question Thread! Jeez!

Anubis you should be ashamed as well for not referring him to that sooner! Infadels.

[Artistsean]

I was just curious about OMAC, I didn't know if he was like Captain America with his powers or Superman, or if his powers came from his costume like Batman Beyond (if the Satellite downloaded stuff into his suit or into him), did he get gills and fins to fight under water?
maybe he is the one man army for Earth while there were others.
Again, just curious. Guess I'll have to find out some other way.
Wouldn't mind getting the Jack Kirby Omnibus.



Anyway,
my next question is:

Has Slade Wilson's, Deathstroke the Terminator's, military background ever been fully revealed? Like was he in the Navy Seals or something?
And what made him become a mercenary?

That part of his past I am a little unclear on.

[Silicon Surfer]

Who's Who in the DC universe says that OMAC had superior strength and hth but the real power was in the satellite Brother Eye. Brother Eye could increase his strength, and durability as well as decrease his density. It could also beam him info and an assortment of special weapons. The satellite was eventually damaged and reduced in power. OMAC was the Grandfather of Kamandi.

[Anubis]

hehehe Deathstroker. Sounds like a snuff porn star.

[Spike_x1]

How smart is Hank Pym? (say compared to Ted or Ray)Considering he created perfect AI in Ultron, i'd say pretty up there. Noble Prize if it weren't for the robot wanting to kill all humans.Who's he referring to here?What?Who created Ultron is what I was asking.Hank Pym.Lawl. :up:

[Varient]

this may be wrong but I've gotta go with batman on this one :huh:

Yup,.. Incorrect.

Batman is the best "Jack" in the DC Universe.

[Artistsean]

Thanks Silicon Surfer.

What is Deathstroke's military background, and what made him leave it to be a mercenary?

[Varient]

Well if Terrific is the "Reed Richards" of the DCU (which I've heard, how accurate that is I don't know) then I couldn't go with Batman on this one. I've never seen Batman create technology that's boarder lining on magic LOL!
I would NEVER put terrific in Reeds class,... He doesn't spend weeks and weeks exploring whatever bit his fancy,... but is a problem solver of very high degree.

Not even in the top ten.

If everything is going back to Silver Age status quo, Lex should be the smartest, followed by possibly T.O. Morrow, then Mr. T. After that you got Will Magnus, Niles Caulder, Ray Palmer, and a s**t load of other big brains that you may or may not have heard of. Batman's smart, yes. Smart enough to understand lots of different tech and chemistry stuff. But most of what he has or what he knows, he's gotten from other people. And theres nothing wrong with that. Batman is a jack of all trades, but master of only one, and that's detective skills.

Ah,... concurrance.

Didn't Bruce himself admit that Wesley Dodds (GA Sandman) was a better detective than he?

Detective skills don't equal intelligence. cough*ralph*cough

I never realized T.O.Morrow was that smart. They said in countdown that Ted Kord could never create a universe hopping vest, but Lex Luthor and Ray Palmer could.

How smart is Hank Pym? (say compared to Ted or Ray)
Meh,.. I'm convinced at this point that Hanks not that smart,........... And Ted Kord has been undervalued,... The Bug itself was a MARVEL of Kord-tech.


Considering he created perfect AI in Ultron, i'd say pretty up there. Noble Prize if it weren't for the robot wanting to kill all humans.

meh some more,... real brains,.. invent an intelligence with the battlecry "destroy all Humans".


V.

[TheCorpulent1]

Also an intelligence that's proven all but unkillable and now has an entire galaxy under its thumb. I'd say Ultron's a bit more impressive than you're giving him credit for. So is Hank, if his Avengers West Coast days are any indication. I'm convinced that Hank's a great scientist but a sucky superhero, myself.

[Varient]

Also an intelligence that's proven all but unkillable and now has an entire galaxy under its thumb. I'd say Ultron's a bit more impressive than you're giving him credit for. So is Hank, if his Avengers West Coast days are any indication. I'm convinced that Hank's a great scientist but a sucky superhero, myself.

Maybe I could bend that from "not so smart" to "Lacking the sense God gave a rock?"


V.

[Silicon Surfer]

Hank also gave the Wasp her powers. He is not the intellectual equal of the polymaths but is nonetheless very smart. I have always seen Hank as Destiny's fall guy.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe I could bend that from "not so smart" to "Lacking the sense God gave a rock?"


V.
I don't know where you get that from, but whatever works for you.

[Superunknown]

New, stupid question. I picked up an issue of Teen Titans yesterday and noticed that it's senior members are now longer in the roster? I wondered why DC had them hang around as "teen titans" for as long as they did up until recently. I'd hypothesize, that they've got to be in their mid 20's by now?

Anyway, I 've been out of the loop for a while. What do Raven, Star-Fire, Beast Boy and Cyborg have going for them right? Hoping to hear that they've got. Hoping to hear that they haven't just dropped off the face of the planet. Are they working on a new book for these guys, graduating them into the JLA or what?

[TheCorpulent1]

They stuck around as teachers, basically. They were there to advise and assist the younger members, but eventually they realized that the younger Titans had things well in hand and moved on to their own stuff. Starfire is now hanging out in space with Adam Strange and Animal Man in Countdown to Adventure, Raven's going to high school (she was reborn in a younger body, so she's physically high school age), and Beast Boy rejoined the Doom Patrol. I don't know what Cyborg is up to presently, but he, Starfire, Raven, Beast Boy, Arsenal, the Flash, and Donna Troy are going to re-form the Titans (no "Teen") in a new book under Judd Winick and Ian Churchill later this year.

[Superunknown]

The Flash aka Wally West? or are they reviving Kid Flash?

[TheCorpulent1]

Nope, Wally. It's supposed to be basically a New Teen Titans/Original Titans (except for Tempest because apparently no one likes him) revival.

[Superunknown]

Nope, Wally. It's supposed to be basically a New Teen Titans/Original Titans (except for Tempest because apparently no one likes him) revival.
Don't know if I have this right but is Wally the original "Kid Flash" then? I'd heard that there were 2 of them, one was called Kid Flah/Impulse not sure if that was Wally or Bart though? Does this mean there's a spot open for a speedster on the JLA? :woot:

I don't know if I'd mess with that dynamic of of a JLA with no Flash, do they ever really do anything with him on there?

[TheCorpulent1]

Wally was the original Kid Flash. Bart called himself Impulse initially and then switched to Kid Flash shortly after joining the Teen Titans.

Wally's probably just gonna pull double-duty on the JLA and the Titans. He literally was in two places at once with the JLA and the Elite before, so I'm sure he could do it again.

[Anubis]

Wally was the first, Bart was the second, after he got knee capped by Deathstroke and nearly lost his leg and decided to get his s**t togther so he went to the San Francisco Library and read every book in there in 20 minutes, then decided to stop running from his grand pappy's legacy and became Kid flash.

He'll probably be on both teams. Wouldn't be the first time. I remember he was on two missions at the same time when he was with the JLA and the JLA:Elite.

[Anubis]

Wow, nearly the exact same thing.

[Superunknown]

Wow, nearly the exact same thing.
Are you two guys sure that you are two different people? :woot:

[TheCorpulent1]

Sometimes I wonder...

[Anubis]

I'm pretty sure. He hates with the passion of a thousands suns, I'm the poster boy for fan boy apathy. Two sides of the same coin maybe....

[TheCorpulent1]

That's true. But I only hate a very few specific things with such intensity. Most of the time my hate only gets up to flashlight level.

[Anubis]

And I simply don't care about most things, but i'm still looking for Niczia or whatever the f**k his name is so I can put my size 11 1/2 up his ass for killing Genis off.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ha, your rage is sweet and aromatic. :up:

[Anubis]

That's because I let it age, and allow it to fester into a mental illness.

[TheCorpulent1]

Not me. I have too much rage to give.

[Anubis]

That's why your rage tastes like goat's piss.

[Lobo]

Did Babs during her time as Batgirl ever team up with the Teen Titans?

[Silicon Surfer]

The first Batgirl did but Barbara didn't pre-crisis. I don't know about post crisis.

[BrianWilly]

Yeah, I don't think so. She never really hung out with that crowd. It was touched on in Birds of Prey, something like how she was too young for the JLA but too old for the Titans and this led to emoness.

[TheCorpulent1]

The first Batgirl did but Barbara didn't pre-crisis. I don't know about post crisis.
There was a Batgirl before Barbara in the pre-Crisis comics? :huh:

[BrianWilly]

Help us, Wikipedia!

...Yes, it says Bette Kane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bette_Kane) predates Babs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Gordon) by five years.

[Primal Slayer]

There was a Batgirl before Barbara in the pre-Crisis comics? :huh:

Ya, I believe it was Ms.Kane (Flamebird), but she went by Bat-Girl. Though nothing big ever happened with the charecter.

[BrianWilly]

Robin turned her down (http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/comics101/images/2003/dec10/justice.jpg) for another woman once. It was the funniest thing ever.

[Lobo]

Yeah, I don't think so. She never really hung out with that crowd. It was touched on in Birds of Prey, something like how she was too young for the JLA but too old for the Titans and this led to emoness.

I just think it would have been interesting to see the Babs/Dick/Kory dynamic and how it would have affected their superheroing

[TheCorpulent1]

Robin turned her down (http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/comics101/images/2003/dec10/justice.jpg) for another woman once. It was the funniest thing ever.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Silicon Surfer]

The first one was Betty Kane, niece of Kathy Kane AKA Batwoman. She retired before Barbara started but briefly came out of retirement to serve with the Titans West.

[WompuM]

Whatever happened to the DC Lounge?

[DawnWarrior]

I've got a question that's giving me trouble:

What does it actually FEEL like to be affected by Kryptonite? Has this ever been covered in a story? It seems to change in every issue and every episode of the every tv show. Does it make Clark feel hot? Does he feel cold? Does he feel lightheaded? Shortness of breath? Is it physically painful? No wonder it's so hard to relate to Superman.

[WompuM]

Of the smallivlle epsiodes i've seen, which has given more kryptonite epsidoes than anyone needs to see, it looks like his blood is literaly bursting out of his veins, a la tge guard in X2. or, like baby spock in star trek 3. but then in Superman Returns, he still lifts a continent.

So who knows. In some circumstanes, it makes him human, like red sunlight. But in some instances, red sunlight acts like kryptonite.

I dont know what to tell you darth.

(btw, 6th friday in a row i've been wasted off my ass. but it'all good cause comic book convetnion tommorow in stl. you going hush?

[Silicon Surfer]

DC used to refer to the effects of Kryptonite as poisoning.

[WompuM]

Hey, has anyone here ever done the whole CGC comic book grading deal? I found a copy of V for Vendetta #1 and didnt know whether or not to bother with the whole grading system.

[Artistsean]

Does anyone know what Slade Wilson's (Deathstroke's) military background is and why he left it?
Did they mention it at all in the comics?

[Superunknown]

Often, when I post, I some how end up comparing and contrasting DC and Marvels' styles of character development and how each company takes a stance on how they run dynamics of their respective universes.

And the stupid question is, how many of you guys that frequent the DC related forums actually read Marvel stuff? I've only noticed a few names, here and there, pop up on the Marvel areas consistently. And why have you chosen to stick with DC brand, what do you find lacks or is just totally un-interesting in the Marvel Universe?

[WompuM]

It's purely financial for me. I canNOT afford to read both companies. I have no problem with marvel. and I will buy the big events, your civil wars, world war hulks, cap #25. etc.

[Silicon Surfer]

Does anyone know what Slade Wilson's (Deathstroke's) military background is and why he left it?
Did they mention it at all in the comics?

I don't remember much but he was a soldier who was experimented on. I think that the government screwed him over somehow and he went into mercenary work instead.

[BrianWilly]

It's purely financial for me. I canNOT afford to read both companies. I have no problem with marvel. and I will buy the big events, your civil wars, world war hulks, cap #25. etc.Why does "not being able to afford both companies" translate into "buying solely and exclusively from one company"?

[WompuM]

Because it's better to have one whole story than half of two stories???

[TheCorpulent1]

You can only buy one comic?

[Darthphere]

Retarded logic?

[WompuM]

No, I mean if I am reading DC Comics, I am going to need to know whats going on throughout the entire DCU. So I get Countdown, JLA, JSA, TT, Dec, Batman, Nightwing, Underground, Sal. Run, etc.

If I am going to read Marvel, I would want to read a lot of it so I know what's going on in the entire Universe. But I dont have the cash to buy Avengers, Spidey, X-Men, Cap, and whatever else.

[Anubis]

yeah, that's still pretty effed up logic.

[Artistsean]

I don't remember much but he was a soldier who was experimented on. I think that the government screwed him over somehow and he went into mercenary work instead.

Thanks for answering my question. I guess the comic doesn't go into it more than that.
I was hoping to find out if he was just like Captain America, a regular soldier or if he was a extremely trained Navy Seal type or something.
If he was experimented on maybe he was part of some covert thing.

Anyway, thanks.


Also I read both Marvel and DC and anything that catches my eye that I have money for, such as the Simpsons comics, Madman, and things like that. But like always it depends on money. I usually only buy one or two comics per week.
Some weeks there will be nothing and the next week there will be about eight comics I wished I could get.

[Lobo]

Thanks for answering my question. I guess the comic doesn't go into it more than that.
I was hoping to find out if he was just like Captain America, a regular soldier or if he was a extremely trained Navy Seal type or something.
If he was experimented on maybe he was part of some covert thing.

Anyway, thanks.


Also I read both Marvel and DC and anything that catches my eye that I have money for, such as the Simpsons comics, Madman, and things like that. But like always it depends on money. I usually only buy one or two comics per week.
Some weeks there will be nothing and the next week there will be about eight comics I wished I could get.

This should help with some of your Deathstroke questions http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/deathstroke.html

[Manic]

No, I mean if I am reading DC Comics, I am going to need to know whats going on throughout the entire DCU. So I get Countdown, JLA, JSA, TT, Dec, Batman, Nightwing, Underground, Sal. Run, etc.

If I am going to read Marvel, I would want to read a lot of it so I know what's going on in the entire Universe. But I dont have the cash to buy Avengers, Spidey, X-Men, Cap, and whatever else.
You know, you'd probably be able to buy about 3 or 4 Marvel books a month if you dropped Countdown. Or are you one of the people enjoying that book?

[WompuM]

yeah, i enjoy countdown enough not to drop it with 10 issues left. And I would rather pick up 4 more DC books than marvel. shocking I know.

[Anubis]

Well, what are you reading? Could you like, post your pull list? Maybe we can help you jam in some marvel or indie books that aren't very continuity heavy that you could just enjoy on there own without having to read every event going on at the moment.

[Manic]

yeah, i enjoy countdown enough not to drop it with 10 issues left. And I would rather pick up 4 more DC books than marvel. shocking I know.
Ah, so it's not just about funds. You really just have a preference for DC. Because really, I can name a few self-contained Marvel books you can read without collecting their whole line. Immortal Iron Fist immediately comes to mind.

[WompuM]

I don't get why I'm on the defensive here because I make mine DC.

[yenaled]

Captain America and Iron Fist are two books that are totally readable on their own.

[BrianWilly]

Because good books are not restricted by company lines, and it always makes baby Jesus cry when people trip into that logic. :(

[WompuM]

And hey, I have actually started reading Cap. since #25. I just really don't care that much about Iron Fist.

[Artistsean]

I said to myself I would buy Iron Fist when it came out in big book form. But I am also low on money, so I always think "well I don't need that right now." And I buy something else. I want to get that but there are more important things at the moment.

[Hush]

Comics used to be cheaper its annoying to spend 3 bucks a book.

[Darthphere]

Comics used to be cheaper its annoying to spend 3 bucks a book.

Actually, no, not at all. Inflation and all that jazz. I mean, back in the time of 75 Cent comics, that was some big money.

[Mee]

TMOB remembers those days.

[Silicon Surfer]

I remember paying 12 cents a comic and thinking that it was a lot of money.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wonder what the prices of those early comics would really be compared to current prices with inflation. Something tells me they still would've been cheaper overall. Comics had a much bigger market back then, after all.

[WompuM]

Well, all things considered, by the nature of the comic book (magazine), their prices are going to be unnatural sticky, compared to say milk, or gasoline. When was the last big spike in comic book prices? It doesn't happen often.

[TheCorpulent1]

The last jump was a few years ago when the standard went from $2.50 to $2.99.

[WompuM]

Crap. Darth&Leaguer closed already.

[BrianWilly]

There was a second Cloverfield monster?

[hippy fascist]

I wonder what the prices of those early comics would really be compared to current prices with inflation. Something tells me they still would've been cheaper overall. Comics had a much bigger market back then, after all.


But to look at it another way, back then you could read a comic without every other page being an ad for a 4X4 or snickers...

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think we less pages of story now, though. Just more ads, increasing the page count overall. But I could be mistaken.

[hippy fascist]

no the story's pretty much the same, but with more ads it does break up the pacing as generally now you'll get one page of story per one page of ads. This means you're much less likely to get a run of three pages of stry in a row.
more ads are probably to compensate for less readers so in reality I doubt prices have changed much since back in the 70s

[TheCorpulent1]

Ah. I don't mind the ads, personally. I've gotten so used to flipping past them that I don't even notice them anymore.

[hippy fascist]

I wish they'd take a bit more consideration for pacing though. sometimes it's good to have 3-4 uninterupted pages for a fight scene/chase sequence/etc

I've actually seen what were essentially splash pages split up by adds. And don't even get me started on the cardboard things that were in EVERY marvel book for a month last year :down:

[sethcohen]

also take into consideration the fact that the paper and printing is much much better quality than it used to be

[WompuM]

Ads have been around forever though. Even on the Spider-Man DVD-Rom with the last 45 years of issues has ads... which is annoying as piss because they could have easily taken them out.

[TheCorpulent1]

But it wouldn't give you as authentic an experience without the ads.

[WompuM]

Ok, maybe a few examples wouldnt hurt but i was pretty sick of them by issue 3. the old school ads are much more annoying than modern ads.

[TheCorpulent1]

I was being facetious. Including the ads in the DVD-ROMs is stupid. Maybe as a special feature to let us have a laugh at the ads that ran back then or whatever, but they shouldn't be inserted into the stories like they were in the printed issues. That's like releasing DVDs of TV seasons with the commercials still in the episodes.

[WompuM]

It sure is.

[Bnightwing]

I wish comics were 12 cents again

[Lobo]

have Lobo and Orion ever met or fought?

[WompuM]

Not to my knowledge but it'd be a helluva fight.

[CorpusBlack]

When exactly was it established that Solomon Grundy comes back with a different intelligence level and personality after each death? I remember him pretty much always being dumb in the older stories. Was this always established or did some writer somewhere down the line come up with it?

[Mister J]

It's think it's been that way for a while; varying personality and levels of strength and intelligence with each reincarnation (though usually somewhat comparable). There's a JSA story that cites it being due to something like different representations of the original Cyrus Gold persona. His appearance in the Meltzer's JLA was the most intelligent I've ever seen him by far.

[CorpusBlack]

It's think it's been that way for a while; varying personality and levels of strength and intelligence with each reincarnation (though usually somewhat comparable). There's a JSA story that cites it being due to something like different representations of the original Cyrus Gold persona. His appearance in the Meltzer's JLA was the most intelligent I've ever seen him by far.

I enjoyed the intelligent version and hope they play with the idea a bit more; possibly during the Black Lantern storyline in 2009. :up:

[Mee]

Is the current Batman/Superman run any good? Also, Batman & the Outsiders?

[BrianWilly]

I find both decent enough. Might not be for all tastes, so proceed with caution.

[Mee]

Mmmmmkay.

[Scarecrow_King]

i'm personally not a big fan of batman/superman. i think it got way too hyped up, and kind of fell apart after the first few arcs because it didn't live up to people's expectations. i haven't read any of the outsiders.

[CorpusBlack]

i'm personally not a big fan of batman/superman. i think it got way too hyped up, and kind of fell apart after the first few arcs because it didn't live up to people's expectations. i haven't read any of the outsiders.

'Batman/Superman' is one of my fav titles.

[WompuM]

Really? The kryptonite filled preview looked good but I havent read any of it since supergirl. I didnt even think it was continuity anymore.

[Scarecrow_King]

i think it started wonderfully, but then after a while i just got tired of it. I feel like they recycle a lot of stories, and the original ones could be better. I'm not saing it's bad by any means, it's definitely worth reading. But i do think that there is room for improvement.

and is anybody else absolutely sick of crises? i mean, come on. enough is enough.

[WompuM]

and what exactly constitutes a crisis?
just the title? are you basing the stories on titles alone? because if i recall, identity crisis was a helluva lot different than Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Or do you constitute a crisis as a massive crossover?
The Sinestro Corp war had a lot of DCU characters. So does every justice league, justice society, or teen titans issue. Not to mention stories like Salvation Run and Gotham Underground.

Then theres the plot point of multiple versions of Earth interacting.
This I can see as being tiresome, what with Crisis on Multiple Earths during the silver age. COIE in '85, and IC in '06. But then again, the two big stories about this, COIE and IC did take place over 20 years apart.
Now Final Crisis will probably deal with the multiverse but it isn't supposed to reboot any contiuity.

In the past, crisises have given us great stories we still talk about today, and the fact that the next crisis is called Final Crisis shoudl be clue enough that they won't call their crossovers crisis anymore.

But then again, this is the company that decided bringing back Monarch from Zero Hour would be neat.

[Varient]

i think it started wonderfully, but then after a while i just got tired of it. I feel like they recycle a lot of stories, and the original ones could be better. I'm not saing it's bad by any means, it's definitely worth reading. But i do think that there is room for improvement.

and is anybody else absolutely sick of crises? i mean, come on. enough is enough.

I was done somewhere between when the sun went out and when The crisis that featured a mad woman killing one of her best friends.


I realize a lot of readers live for these massive "Country/World/Solar System/Galaxy/Universe/Our vibrational Plane/Our dimension going to end unless Superman, Wonderwoman and Batman Pull their heads out and save us stories,...

But I want a break.

Yo DC,... Knock Lois Lane Kent up. We NOW have a way for her to carry to term - that silly watch.

While your at it Leave the Flash alone. Fix his kids and LEAVE THEM ALONE.

Finally,...Get Supergirls head on straight, Give Batgirls one and two a clue, Resolve Blue Beetles Origin issues (GEEZ It's been over a year - resolve it already.)And Fix Conner.

Then:
Give ALL the super teams some down time - To see Bruce wayne smile for real would be nice

Put the Green Lanterns on it.


V.

[WompuM]

I'm unaware of Blue Beetle's origin problems.

[Varient]

I'm unaware of Blue Beetle's origin problems.

Okay.

[Scarecrow_King]

haha, okay. i mean the whole multiverse plots. i think it was cool that they went back and did a sequel to crisis on infinite earths in infinite crisis, but i hate so many spin offs and cross overs. i don't have that much money! and to know whats going on in one book, you have to read 3 others. 52 and countdown make me angry for that reason. and one sequel to crisis on infinite earths was enough. i think they're just milking the "crisis" titles for all their worth now. identity crisis was an exception. it was wonderfully written as a stand-alone, but if you were reading other titles, it just made it even better. it wasn't related to the multiverse crises, even though they are expounding upon elements from the story in the multiverse stories.

i miss the classic crossovers of the 90s. in those, if you were reading the normal monthlies and the crossover miniseries, all it did was enrich the experience, but it wasn't necessary to the plot. the one million arc and final night come to mind. now it just seems like DC is just trying to tie everything in together in an attempt to get us to buy more books.

a lot of that was rambly, so if you didn't understand it, need clarification, or just plain disagree, lemme know. :-)

[WompuM]

Okay.

Could you expand on what they are. Didn't he get the scarab, fight brother eye, spend a year, pretty much hibernating in a pocket demension, come back and find out the scarab is from the reach?

I havent been reading every issue. Whats the problem?

[WompuM]

haha, okay. i mean the whole multiverse plots. i think it was cool that they went back and did a sequel to crisis on infinite earths in infinite crisis, but i hate so many spin offs and cross overs. i don't have that much money! and to know whats going on in one book, you have to read 3 others. 52 and countdown make me angry for that reason. and one sequel to crisis on infinite earths was enough. i think they're just milking the "crisis" titles for all their worth now. identity crisis was an exception. it was wonderfully written as a stand-alone, but if you were reading other titles, it just made it even better. it wasn't related to the multiverse crises, even though they are expounding upon elements from the story in the multiverse stories.

i miss the classic crossovers of the 90s. in those, if you were reading the normal monthlies and the crossover miniseries, all it did was enrich the experience, but it wasn't necessary to the plot. the one million arc and final night come to mind. now it just seems like DC is just trying to tie everything in together in an attempt to get us to buy more books.

a lot of that was rambly, so if you didn't understand it, need clarification, or just plain disagree, lemme know. :-)

Yes but 52 wasn't a necesity to read. It was a year that was skipped over that is hardly referenced outside of Booster Gold. All you need to know is that there's a multiverse again. How often do you hear anyone talk about the effects Mr. Mind has had on the multiple earths? Now for countdown, I havent been reading every crossover and I do okay. Sure, mistakes are made cough*amazonsattack*cough. but i'd say you have a problem with weeklies, not crises. Plus, DC has stated already that the upcoming trinity will be stand alone.

Shti got crazy with countdown but I think they recognize that. What they need to focus on is having books in the Top Ten. Marvel is kicking their ass.

[Scarecrow_King]

yeah, i probably do have a problem with the weeklies, but they were a result of the crises. ipso facto.
marvel has been doing the same thing, too. the civil war leaked into other books too much, as did world war hulk, and now secret invasion is doing the same. the only marvel book i'm really a devout fan of anymore is ultimate spiderman, but more about his belongs in the marvel threads.

[Darthphere]

Is the current Batman/Superman run any good? Also, Batman & the Outsiders?

I like both.

[WompuM]

Darth, rough day on the Hype!?

[Varient]

Could you expand on what they are. Didn't he get the scarab, fight brother eye, spend a year, pretty much hibernating in a pocket demension, come back and find out the scarab is from the reach?

I havent been reading every issue. Whats the problem?

Yes he did all that,... and currently he continues to fight the reach.
He resolves with the Lanterns, Still fighting the reach.
He settles his family issues with his being the Beetle, Still Fighting with the reach.
Saves his girl-friend, gets a girlfriend, settles with the local crime boss (who's the girl-friends aunt)
He gets his info on him, the Scarab, and a handle on how to use this power, STILL FIGHTING WITH THE REACH.
Last issue,.. Learns how to be in three places at once, (sort of), and knocks down a large part of the reach,.. but they have pulled his fangs where he is powerless - and he's still fighting with the reach.

R they going to resolve the reach or is he going to be fighting it forever?


V.

[Hush]

Is the current Batman/Superman run any good? Also, Batman & the Outsiders?

Batman/Superman is my favorit Title out right now.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes he did all that,... and currently he continues to fight the reach.
He resolves with the Lanterns, Still fighting the reach.
He settles his family issues with his being the Beetle, Still Fighting with the reach.
Saves his girl-friend, gets a girlfriend, settles with the local crime boss (who's the girl-friends aunt)
He gets his info on him, the Scarab, and a handle on how to use this power, STILL FIGHTING WITH THE REACH.
Last issue,.. Learns how to be in three places at once, (sort of), and knocks down a large part of the reach,.. but they have pulled his fangs where he is powerless - and he's still fighting with the reach.

R they going to resolve the reach or is he going to be fighting it forever?


V.
Dude, they just revealed that the Reach existed, what, like 4 or 5 issues ago? The story hasn't been running that long.

[CorpusBlack]

Batman/Superman is my favorit Title out right now.

It's definitely in my top 3 or 4. :up:

[Kitsune]

Is Flash still fighting vignianthulu monsters? I got the first issue of Wally back and wasn't really impressed with the kids or "Womanthing" so I stopped following it.

[Anubis]

Yeah, he's done.

[yenaled]

Good twist with the back-ups too.

[TheCorpulent1]

The back-ups were better than the main story. I'm sure part of that had to do with Doug Braithwaite being a much better artist than Freddie Williams.

[Green Lantern]

Often, when I post, I some how end up comparing and contrasting DC and Marvels' styles of character development and how each company takes a stance on how they run dynamics of their respective universes.

And the stupid question is, how many of you guys that frequent the DC related forums actually read Marvel stuff? I've only noticed a few names, here and there, pop up on the Marvel areas consistently. And why have you chosen to stick with DC brand, what do you find lacks or is just totally un-interesting in the Marvel Universe?
I do read a few Marvel comics (Astonishing X-Men, Gunslinger Series, and a few more), but I grew up with DC. The first comic I ever read was Superman 75, and for five years after that I did not miss an issue of or pertaining to Superman. Thats also when I started my Green Lantern run, which is still running til today, 150 issues or so and counting. Mainly the reason Marvel turns me off is their over saturation on Wolverine and X-Men. Every other large event has to do with the mutants, and having what, 19 X-Books? A little overkill I think.

[TheCorpulent1]

There's a ton of other stuff that's not remotely associated with mutants at Marvel, dude.

[CorpusBlack]

There's a ton of other stuff that's not remotely associated with mutants at Marvel, dude.

TONS.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, sorry. There are several tons of other Marvel stuff that are not mutant-related. My mistake.

[CorpusBlack]

Yes, sorry. There are several tons of other Marvel stuff that are not mutant-related. My mistake.

:up: :grin: :cwink:

[Anubis]

You got something on your teeth.

[CorpusBlack]

You got something on your teeth.

The blood of the Disco King! :grin:

[Anubis]

....you do know he had hepatitis.....right?

[CorpusBlack]

....you do know he had hepatitis.....right?

So do I. I gave it to him first.

[seblopez]

I do read a few Marvel comics (Astonishing X-Men, Gunslinger Series, and a few more), but I grew up with DC. The first comic I ever read was Superman 75, and for five years after that I did not miss an issue of or pertaining to Superman. Thats also when I started my Green Lantern run, which is still running til today, 150 issues or so and counting. Mainly the reason Marvel turns me off is their over saturation on Wolverine and X-Men. Every other large event has to do with the mutants, and having what, 19 X-Books? A little overkill I think.

Just like in DC there are a gazillion Superman and Batman titles. If you talk about over-using characters, DC is way way ahead than Marvel in that area.
I do agree there's way too much Wolverine, and recently way too much Iron Man in Marvel, though...

[CorpusBlack]

way too much Iron Man

Gotta promote the movie some how. :up:

[Superunknown]

Hey, I just finished reading the Nightfall arc for Batman, but I want wasn't able to get ahold of Azriel's Batman run. What did Batman have to do to keep his identity secret then when Bane found out? Or was Bane in some strange but honorable so of way, had enough respect to keep it to himself?

Second, anyone know where I could get some "Venom", the baseball players seem to to be able to get away with it... J/K :woot:

[Scarecrow_King]

I'm pretty sure Bane didn't tell anyone, or have any intention to.

[Anubis]

Yeah, he's stupid and noble like that.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or he wanted to save Batman's moider for himself or something. Didn't he also forget for a while?

[Spike_x1]

Well, Bane definitely respects Batman enough to keep a lid on the secret. Although I don't know what happened to Bane's three companions that were following him around in Knightfall; Trog, Zombie, and Bird. Those guys knew that Bruce was Batman too.

[TheCorpulent1]

Azrael probably killed and ate them while he was crazy.

[Spike_x1]

They tasted like chicken.

[WompuM]

Mmmm..... chicken.

[Scarecrow_King]

wait, I don't remember Trogg, Zombie and Bird knowing Batman's identity.

[Spike_x1]

They were right there when Bane said aloud that Bruce Wayne was Batman. :o

[Aristotle]

Is there an Official Superman-Batman Thread? I tried to find one and couldn't.

[Aristotle]

Often, when I post, I some how end up comparing and contrasting DC and Marvels' styles of character development and how each company takes a stance on how they run dynamics of their respective universes.

And the stupid question is, how many of you guys that frequent the DC related forums actually read Marvel stuff? I've only noticed a few names, here and there, pop up on the Marvel areas consistently. And why have you chosen to stick with DC brand, what do you find lacks or is just totally un-interesting in the Marvel Universe?I like the DC Universe better, and how it's handled. I've seen a lot of fans and creators brag that Marvel's stories are better because their heroes are more troubled, that everything's more nuanced, that their heroes can fall, that they can have irredeemable ant-men and an inexplicably evil Tony Stark and a dead Captain America and it's all so much more real.

I don't prefer it. My sig, from Grant Morrison's Aztek, puts my feelings on the subject into words much better than I could. I realize that in this modern world, most of us would rather have our popular mythology and our legends and our fiction narratives give us dark heroes with troubles and foibles so much like our own, to remind us just how subjective and gray the world is, to remind us that we can fall and fail.

But I don't want that. I won't want it even when DC finally collapses and all that's left is Marvel, if that happens. And for me, DC gives me what I want. I want heroes that are heroic, dammit. I want inspiration. I want hope. I want our pop-culture gods to be Superman and Wonder Woman, not Michael Jackson and Wolverine. I want them to be great men and women who show us what we can be, not fallen angels peddling sex, drugs, and death.

There are other, smaller things. I despise Joe Quesada. I despise Stan Lee more than probably any other person who ever made comics. I despise Thor and the Fantastic Four. I'm only a recent X-convert, and although I am a fanatical one, Marvel publishes too many damn X-books, and they have for about twenty years.

And this is not to say there's nothing I can't find to love about Marvel. As I said above, I've recently fallen in love with everything mutant-related (not the usual thing to say, I know.) I'm still reading Captain America, just like I have been for years. I'm still reading Ghost Rider, too. I'm even still reading Blade, when they give him a book. I read the Ultimates, even though the Ultimate Universe concept makes me puke, and I'm fond of a lot of the old Avengers stuff.

But when it comes down to it? I just want superheroes. DC gives me heroes. And the last one Marvel had, well, they just put a bullet in his head.

[Doc Destruction]

Amen.