The Official DC Stupid Question Thread....

[trustyside-kick]

I've been itching to check out Astro City, but was unsure.

With my local comic shop having a half off sale on all back issues, I figured I could check it out with little worry. Any specific issues I should look for to reel myself in?

[yenaled]

I'd go in order.

Life in the Big City.
Confession.
Family Album.
The Tarnished Angel.
Local Heroes.

Dark Age Book 1 is out in May.

Confession and The Tarnished Angel are my favourite ones.

[Anubis]

That Samaritan Special that came out awhile ago if you can find it.

The Beauty Special that came out last week wasn't half bad either.

[JayBirdSlim]

OK I got called on this damn question twice... I finally am posting it in the right place.. yes...I am a moron...

If Hawkman and Hawkgirl got pregnant and the child received recessive genes from both parents would Hawkgirl lay an egg or give birth to a normal human child?

[WompuM]

Do thanagarians hatch? I wasnt under the impression. That's a little too Super Mario Bros. movie for me.

[JayBirdSlim]

Ah WompuM that is the trick though.. since Thanagarians are half bird half man I would assume (based on the current understanding of genetics) that the recessant gene would have to be human or hawk right?

[Varient]

I've been itching to check out Astro City, but was unsure.

With my local comic shop having a half off sale on all back issues, I figured I could check it out with little worry. Any specific issues I should look for to reel myself in?

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[Colossal Spoons]

How is Gotham Underground?

[Obi-John-Kenobi]

I have a question: How does Superman control his ability to fly?

[yenaled]

OK I got called on this damn question twice... I finally am posting it in the right place.. yes...I am a moron...

If Hawkman and Hawkgirl got pregnant and the child received recessive genes from both parents would Hawkgirl lay an egg or give birth to a normal human child?

Hawkgirl is human.

[JayBirdSlim]

she is? when did that happen? well then crap there goes my stupid question which apparently has now been proven to be utterly stupid...ARGH!

[yenaled]

Without too much depth...

In the comics Hawkgirl is human, in JLU she was Thanagarian.

There is a character in the comics called Hawkwoman who is closer to the JLU Hawkgirl.

[Odin's Fury]

I have a question: How does Superman control his ability to fly?


I'm not sure the official reason. Back when he leapt places, he obviously couldn't control it. Sometimes he's shown banking, like a bird.

But I think the official explanation is that he can control his personal gravity. So he can attract his body to different objects in the universe. Anti-gravity doesn't work because he can fly in space.

If anyone has more specific info, please correct my failings.

[WompuM]

He can fly in space? I think in Trinity he talks about having to be careful not to be pilled into a vacuum.

Edit: Nevermind, just remembered Infinite Crisis ending.

[JayBirdSlim]

ahhh thanks for the clarification yenaled... so then the question should be revised for HawkWOMAN... :)

(if you ask me I think they lay an egg)

[Aristotle]

How is Gotham Underground?The best Batman story since Hush.

I have a question: How does Superman control his ability to fly?Same way you control your ability to walk.


she is? when did that happen?When she was born.

[Colossal Spoons]

The best Batman story since Hush.

Wow. Are all his sidekicks in it?

[WompuM]

ummm..... i think eventually yes. except huntress. they are all on the covers at least.

[Aristotle]

All the ones that are still alive, minus Batgirl, plus (apparently) someone dressing up like Spoiler.

[Aristotle]

ummm..... i think eventually yes. except huntress. they are all on the covers at least.Huntress hasn't really been a Bat-family member in awhile now.

[Colossal Spoons]

Cassandra or Barbara Batgirl?

[Aristotle]

Barbara Batgirl doesn't exist anymore. Cassandra Batgirl does, but she's in the Outsiders. She's the only Bat-person not appearing in Gotham Underground.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok cool. Really been enjoying Cass in Outsiders. I saw Oracle in Countdown a while back but I barely read that anymore. :up:

[Spike_x1]

Same way you control your ability to walk.Surprisingly good answer :up:. Whether his flight comes from some personal telekinesis, or some really far-out and complicated explanation, it boils down to the fact that he's an alien and he just can. :o

[The Question]

I've personally been fond of the "super conductive nervous system" theory. Mainly because it also ties into some of his other powers, like speed, strength, and maybe ice breath, which makes them seem a lot less random.

[Aristotle]

I know you want to expand on that theory, and fortunately, I want to hear more about it. What's the deal?

[WompuM]

They went into this a bit in 'Up Up & Away' didn't they?

[The Question]

I know you want to expand on that theory, and fortunately, I want to hear more about it. What's the deal?

As the name suggests, it means that his nervous system is super conductive. Meaning, there is no electrical resistence. In laberatory condictions, some super conductive objects have either levitated or become much heavier depending on the current run through them. The idea is that Superman can manipulate the pull of gravity on his body electro-magnetically through his nervous system, and thus fly. It ties into his strength because it could, if manipulated properly, make objects around him somewhat lighter and increase his already superhuman strength. It ties into his speed because having a super conductive nervous system would also give him super human reaction time and reflexes. It could also tie into his arctic breath as super conductivity has only been observed in incredibly low temperatures, so his arctic breath may involve, to some dregree, venting off some kind of organic coolant his body creates.

[WompuM]

I'm confused by the super strength aspect. If he made objects lighter, would he just need to be in contact with him or would he need to apply force. For instance, if he were touching a boulder, could Jimmy lift it?

[Anubis]

ahhh thanks for the clarification yenaled... so then the question should be revised for HawkWOMAN... :)

(if you ask me I think they lay an egg)

She wouldn't lay an egg because Thanagarian's aren't part bird. They wear a harness on there back made of Nth metal. Those wings are fakes.

[WompuM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95RfjkGwoNU&feature=related
Damn thanagarians.

[The Question]

I'm confused by the super strength aspect. If he made objects lighter, would he just need to be in contact with him or would he need to apply force. For instance, if he were touching a boulder, could Jimmy lift it?

I think it relates to the effect of gravity on his body, so no. It's been a while since the theory was explained to me, so I don't exactly remember some of the wording.

[yenaled]

She wouldn't lay an egg because Thanagarian's aren't part bird. They wear a harness on there back made of Nth metal. Those wings are fakes.

Well, Isamot Kol is Thanagarian and more lizard like - and lizards lay eggs...

[The Question]

Well, Isamot Kol is Thanagarian and more lizard like - and lizards lay eggs...

There are a lot of different intelligent speicese on Thanagar, largely due to immigration. Isamot is a Thanagarian by citizenship, not race.

[trustyside-kick]

I'd go in order.

Life in the Big City.
Confession.
Family Album.
The Tarnished Angel.
Local Heroes.

Dark Age Book 1 is out in May.

Confession and The Tarnished Angel are my favourite ones.

Oh, I thought that each book had a different hero or set of heroes so reading them in order wouldn't matter.

[Anubis]

Certain events do carry over from volume to volume, but it's not necessary to read them in order or anything.

[Kitsune]

She wouldn't lay an egg because Thanagarian's aren't part bird. They wear a harness on there back made of Nth metal. Those wings are fakes.

It would have been funnier if you referred to them as falsies :D

[Anubis]

Or even better..."Those wings are lies!"

[batnkevlar]

There are a lot of different intelligent speicese on Thanagar, largely due to immigration. Isamot is a Thanagarian by citizenship, not race.

Isamot Kol is a Lizarkan Thanagarian...

[Superunknown]

She wouldn't lay an egg because Thanagarian's aren't part bird. They wear a harness on there back made of Nth metal. Those wings are fakes.
Huh...? :wow:

[Anubis]

Yup. They're not real. They might have been in the JL/JLU cartoon, but in the comics, they are falsies. ;)

[Superunknown]

Then how do those guys fly, I'd understand if their meant to glide from high points to low places. But I'm sure we've all seen Hawkman and Hawl girl take from stand still...?

Maybe it's just better not to ask :woot:

[Mister J]

Their belts/harnesses are comprised of Nth Metal, which has anti-gravity properties among others. The wings help them control flight.

[yenaled]

Their belts/harnesses are comprised of Nth Metal, which has anti-gravity properties among others. The wings help them control flight.

Actually that's just the Hawks, the Thanagarian's actually have armour, wings and helmets made out of the stuff.

[CLARKY]

hey could someone name me few of the Hawkman/Hawkgirl's rogues ? I know shadow-thief, gentleman Ghost and Byth of course, but what else ? Vandal savage, Monocle ? I mean isn't there good and solid bad guys?

[Anubis]

Theres quite a few, but the names I have long since forgotten. Theres this big lion guy. This Headhunter guy whose name may or may not be Headhunter. And of course their nemisis, Hath Set.

[Kitsune]

Or even better..."Those wings are lies!"

They could have Nth Metal implants.

[Aristotle]

I had no idea so many people gave a flying **** about the Hawks.

[trustyside-kick]

hey could someone name me few of the Hawkman/Hawkgirl's rogues ? I know shadow-thief, gentleman Ghost and Byth of course, but what else ? Vandal savage, Monocle ? I mean isn't there good and solid bad guys?

- Hath-Set
- Shadow Thief
- Gentleman Ghost (kinda?)
- Vandal Savage (I suppose?)
- Fadeaway Man
- Saint Roch (or whatever that guy ended up calling himself)
- The Pilgrim (I think that is his name)
- Golden Eagle
- Lionmane
- The Headhunter
- Hummingbird
- Some kind of vampire dude, sorry I cannot remember

There are a few more who escape me at the moment.

[Anubis]

I had no idea so many people gave a flying **** about the Hawks.


The Hawks are awesome.

[trustyside-kick]

My memory is groggy...but I was reading some stuff on wiki and it mentioned Captain Nazi being in 52. I don't recall that so I was like "...wait, what?".

Anyone know/remember those issues or at least what happened with him in his appearances? My mind seriously draws blanks.

[WompuM]

hmm..... captain.... nazi.....
I'm drawing a blank. Maybe something dealing with Manheim. Or maybe they are talking about the Nazi Earth panel in the multiverse. I don't remember.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe he was involved in the attack on Metropolis or World War III. You know, something forgettable because practically all the characters were involved.

[BATS N' HORNETS]

i had no idea that outsiders was still around

[Anubis]

Really? They advertise the s**t outta it.

[Manic]

Is Mary Marvel still teetering on the edge of evil, and using Black Adam's powers? I haven't read Countdown since probably week 40-something.

[BrianWilly]

Not any more. During a showdown with Eclipso, she shoved all of that power into Eclipso and became normal again. She then wound up on Apokolips (along with every other character for some reason or another), freed the Olympian gods, and got her "old" powers back, with a marginally altered costume (http://pics.livejournal.com/interrobamf/pic/0000136a).

[Manic]

Why/how'd she get her powers back? Hell, why did she lose them in the first place?

[BrianWilly]

Both she and Freddy Freeman lost their powers in the first place when Billy aka Captain Marvel turned from just Captain Marvel into "Marvel," basically the new Wizard Shazam. Except that he's not called the Wizard Shazam, because Freddy is being called Shazam, or at least he will be whenever he finishes his Trials. Long story, read Trials of Shazam if you care.

Mary got her powers back because because the Olympian gods were imprisoned by Granny Goodness and Darkseid on Apokolips, lord knows why, and Mary freed them, and they thanked her for it by giving her their powers.

[CLARKY]

- Hath-Set
- Shadow Thief
- Gentleman Ghost (kinda?)
- Vandal Savage (I suppose?)
- Fadeaway Man
- Saint Roch (or whatever that guy ended up calling himself)
- The Pilgrim (I think that is his name)
- Golden Eagle
- Lionmane
- The Headhunter
- Hummingbird
- Some kind of vampire dude, sorry I cannot remember
There are a few more who escape me at the moment.
OK, thanks, yeah, I forgot Hath-set, but as I said nothing really transcendental. Too bad. Thanks for the info anyway.

[TheCorpulent1]

Not any more. During a showdown with Eclipso, she shoved all of that power into Eclipso and became normal again. She then wound up on Apokolips (along with every other character for some reason or another), freed the Olympian gods, and got her "old" powers back, with a marginally altered costume (http://pics.livejournal.com/interrobamf/pic/0000136a).
I'm surprised they didn't give her the old red costume back.

[BrianWilly]

White is more symbolic. Just in case we didn't quite understand that she was EVIL WHEN WAS BLACK and GOOD WHEN SHE WAS WHITE.


Where's that tiny child?

[TheCorpulent1]

What's with the gray lightning bolt, then? Is that supposed to symbolize that she's tainted now? No more gold lightning for her; she's been eeeeevil. :huh:

[WompuM]

Hmmm... it is grey isnt it? Didnt notice that.

[yenaled]

Probably a colouring error, Countdown has been full of them.

[TheCorpulent1]

Aw, I like my symbolism theory. :(

[yenaled]

Well you're in luck, it's not a colouring error because in Countdown 9 she has it.

[WompuM]

And the proof is in the pudding.

[sandwraith]

Okay I just got Comic Shop News and there was this add for "Tangent Comics". Stupid question: What the hell is Tangent Comics? A new DC line?

[Aristotle]

Okay I just got Comic Shop News and there was this add for "Tangent Comics". Stupid question: What the hell is Tangent Comics? A new DC line?Tangent was a stupid idea DC had once in which characters and concepts from the DCU were completely reimagined and recreated, usually keeping only the names. Later, Marvel watered that concept down and made it even dumber. They called it Ultimate. It did a lot better.

[sandwraith]

Oh. So its DC's Ultimate universe. Does it have any significance to Final Crisis?

[WompuM]

Yeah, it's a crappy JLA story line coming up spinning into, surprise surprise, a mini-series.

[BrianWilly]

It's really not DC's Ultimate universe. The whole idea was that there's no recognizability between the characters at all except for the name. Both the tangent Flash and GL are women and aren't named after any of the mainstream Flashes or GLs, and have completely different powers.

And it probably won't have too much significance to Final Crisis.

[Hush]

Does Tangent have anything to do with the Just Imagine: Stan Lee crap a long while ago?

[Anubis]

No.

[Hush]

That was simple and conceice thank you.

[Aristotle]

Just Imagine was so bad.

[sandwraith]

Okay,if this was some really old stuff, how come I've never heard about it? I remember freaking Cinder and Ash. Was this pre/post Zero Hour? What do the other heroes look like in Tangent?

[Anubis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent_Comics

[Lobo]

Will these weeklies ever frikkin end? :mad: :(

[Doc Destruction]

Weekly comics?

Damn I hope not. I just hope the writing on them gets better. At least as good as 52.

[Aristotle]

Will these weeklies ever frikkin end? :mad: :(Whyever would you want that?

[sethcohen]

Weekly comics?

Damn I hope not. I just hope the writing on them gets better. At least as good as 52.
and the art! alot of the art on countdown is just god awful...

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, good weeklies are great.

[Lobo]

Whyever would you want that?

I'd rather wait a month and have better quality than crap weekly

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, good weeklies are great.
:up:

[Aristotle]

Right, they made about every misstep possible with Countdown, but they rescued it, it's a pretty darn good comic, and we'll always have 52. I think Trinity will be really good too.

[The Question]

I'd rather wait a month and have better quality than crap weekly

It's really not that dificult to have good weekly comics. I mean, once you take into account the inherent dificulty in writing under a deadline. There are writers in the industry who write the equvalent of one comic a week. They just also happen to write for seperate titles at once.

[TheCorpulent1]

Right, they made about every misstep possible with Countdown, but they rescued it, it's a pretty darn good comic, and we'll always have 52. I think Trinity will be really good too.
I'm considering Trinity. At this point, I don't know if I'll have enough money to buy Trinity.

[Manic]

Again, haven't read Countdown since week 40-something.

Jimmy Olsen. What's the deal with him, these days? Any reason given for those powers? Does he still have them? ect.

[The Question]

Again, haven't read Countdown since week 40-something.

Jimmy Olsen. What's the deal with him, these days? Any reason given for those powers? Does he still have them? ect.

Jimmy's body absorbes the souls of dead New Gods, and as a result he occasionally manifests their powers.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is Mister Miracle dead yet? If so, has Jimmy manifested pure, undiluted awesome?

[The Question]

Is Mister Miracle dead yet? If so, has Jimmy manifested pure, undiluted awesome?

No. He's just become the living embodyment of the anti-life equasion or something like that. But Barda's dead, so I expect Jimmy'll manifest her....specialty any time now.

[Aristotle]

What, big tits?

[Manic]

That, or he's a brick house. Mighty mighty, letting it all hang out.

[The Question]

What, big tits?

That was the messege I intended to get across, yes.

That, or he's a brick house. Mighty mighty, letting it all hang out.

You know, that song is, in fact, about a woman with big tits. I know a girl with the measurements of the woman in the song.

[TheCorpulent1]

No. He's just become the living embodyment of the anti-life equasion or something like that. But Barda's dead, so I expect Jimmy'll manifest her....specialty any time now.
He's obviously not manifesting all the New Gods' powers, then, if Mr. Miracle's dead and Jimmy's not super-awesome. :o

[Aristotle]

Miracle isn't dead. And he's not really manifesting THEIR powers, so much as completely random powers.

[The Question]

He's obviously not manifesting all the New Gods' powers, then, if Mr. Miracle's dead and Jimmy's not super-awesome. :o

Miracle isn't dead. He's one of the few still kicking.

Miracle isn't dead. And he's not really manifesting THEIR powers, so much as completely random powers.

I thought the implication was that a lot of the powers he was manifesting belonged to random ass New Gods who we've never met.

[Aristotle]

Really? I didn't feel that way. I mean, the New Gods never had powers like porcupine-boy. They had good powers. I think Jimmy's just having weird interactions with his metagene as a result of all the New God souls. Of course, they'll never explain WHY he was catching all the souls...not to mention how he's catching them all when they're going to the second Source Wall...

[Superunknown]

Was in the comic shop the other and noticed a book by the name of Red Son, looked interesting. Supes, revamped as a Soviet Hero. Then I strolled into the obnoxiously huge Count Down section... And I preceded to notice something on the cover of one book that looked like a team of DC heroes, well... immersed in the world of Red Son?

Stupid question is... are there a team of guys similar to Marvel's Exiles running through some infinite Earths for some odd reason, that's that only logical conclusion I could draw. The cover looked interesting enough... Is this CD supplement worth picking up?

[Aristotle]

Yeah, there was, kinda, but not really the same except for the group-of-heroes-dimension-hopping part.

But that particular set of tie-ins was pretty good. They were called Search for Ray Palmer, a series of one-shots set in various Elseworlds universes.

[Scarecrow_King]

when i see a bunch of tie-in one shots like that, only one thing goes through my mind: money plot. its stuff that i know i would love to read, but that i know isn't necessary. so i end up wasting a lot of my money on useless stories. grr.

[Aristotle]

Not really necessary at all, no, but fine storytelling.

[TheCorpulent1]

If 1/2 of the Challengers didn't suck and I weren't indifferent to another 1/4th of the team, I might've kept picking up those Search for Ray Palmer one-shots.

[BrianWilly]

I stopped after two of them.

[Aristotle]

I thought they were the most well-done part of Countdown.

[cerealkiller182]

I find the Challengers as a group interesting, but i thought the searh for Ray Palmer stuff was not consistently good.


Does the cowboy Vigilante have anything to do with the other Vigilantes(the Deadshot looking ones) besides name?

I also believe they implied that the cowboy Vigilante was a werewolf in Morrisons Seven Soldiers. Was this true? and if so is this aspect unique to Seven Soldiers?

[BrianWilly]

The first two issues of Ray Palmer were pretty well-written. But I just could not bring myself to care about THE SECRET ORIGIN OF DUELA DENT!!211!!!1~ or the Jokester or whoever got spotlighted, especially considering that both of them just died anyway. And then the reverse-gendered Earth issue just had the most hilariously horrible art.

[Aristotle]

I find the Challengers as a group interesting, but i thought the searh for Ray Palmer stuff was not consistently good.

Does the cowboy Vigilante have anything to do with the other Vigilantes(the Deadshot looking ones) besides name?

I also believe they implied that the cowboy Vigilante was a werewolf in Morrisons Seven Soldiers. Was this true? and if so is this aspect unique to Seven Soldiers?Cowboy Vigilante was the first one, in the original Seven Soldiers team from the Golden Age, if I recall. The hardcorebadass Vigilantes are of no relation whatsoever, as far as I know.

[sethcohen]

The first two issues of Ray Palmer were pretty well-written. But I just could not bring myself to care about THE SECRET ORIGIN OF DUELA DENT!!211!!!1~ or the Jokester or whoever got spotlighted, especially considering that both of them just died anyway. And then the reverse-gendered Earth issue just had the most hilariously horrible art.
it amazes me that *****ty artists get employed at all. i may hate ed benes, but i understand others like his crappy art. but the art in countdown has for the most part been an abortion.

[Superunknown]

What has Vigilante been in lately, I didn't even know about this guy, Booster or The Question until JLU? I liked the way the writers used some of these sidelined and or obscure characters, which is why I found the series so interesting. I was thinking they should write the regular JL books like this, instead of having it revolve around the tribunal of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman at least 60% of the time. But I guess that's why they've kept the JLU book going.

I know I've asked a few people about it, do any of you guys pick that book up? Don't worry, it's ok to admit that you like what you like, despite the fact that some people on here might make fun of you for the rest of your life :woot:

I've actually had it in my hand while waiting on line to pay for the rest of my stuff, but just couldn't bring myself to actually buy it, despite the love I had for the tv series.

[Anubis]

I think he's dead. Died in Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers mini fighting Spider Gods in some great hunt or some such. Though I think he may have survived that some how.

[cerealkiller182]

I think he's dead. Died in Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers mini fighting Spider Gods in some great hunt or some such. Though I think he may have survived that some how.

He returned as a ghost at the end to the new incarnation of Alias the Spider, who went by I,Spyder.

But in that same series they mentioned he carried around a silver bullet just in case, and something about him being a werewolf but I cant remember and I cant find my damn books

[MagicPrime]

Anyone wanting to see the Suicide Squad get their faces smashed in? And something bad happen to Waller...

I know i do.

[The Question]

The first two issues of Ray Palmer were pretty well-written. But I just could not bring myself to care about THE SECRET ORIGIN OF DUELA DENT!!211!!!1~ or the Jokester or whoever got spotlighted, especially considering that both of them just died anyway. And then the reverse-gendered Earth issue just had the most hilariously horrible art.

The Jokester sucked majorly. They just took Morrison's fairly cool version of the CSA and made them, well, pretty damn stupid. And The Jokester's name had to be one of the most uncreative things I've ever heard.

[CBG]

Plus, he died fast.

Waste of an origin space and character.

But it's DiDio after all.

[cerealkiller182]

The Jokester sucked majorly. They just took Morrison's fairly cool version of the CSA and made them, well, pretty damn stupid. And The Jokester's name had to be one of the most uncreative things I've ever heard.

Kinda like how Supermans other self was Ultraman! Its just the way that world works. Ithought the Jokester was an interesting idea since the morality of the alternate reality had switched but it was implemented poorly

[The Question]

Kinda like how Supermans other self was Ultraman! Its just the way that world works. Ithought the Jokester was an interesting idea since the morality of the alternate reality had switched but it was implemented poorly

They still could have come up with something a hell of a lot better than The Jokester. They didn't even put any thought into it. What would have worked a lot better is The Fool, if you're going by the playing card thing. In the Tarot Card game, The Fool has very similar value as The Joker in modern card games, and in the mystical practices of Tarot, The Fool often represents the hero of a new journey, working with the heroic version of The Joker.

[Aristotle]

Somehow, I think "Fool" is not a name anyone would self-apply.

[The Question]

Somehow, I think "Fool" is not a name anyone would self-apply.

Not even a mentally unbalanced, Robin Hood like anarchist highlighting the downfalls and corruption in society through almost vigilante like acts of performance art and high profile pranks?

[Anubis]

Eh, Jokersters just as good as any. Names don't mean as much as the well crafted story around them. (Which I suppose is why the names sounds stupid.) Look at the Silver Surfer.

[The Question]

Eh, Jokersters just as good as any. Names don't mean as much as the well crafted story around them. (Which I suppose is why the names sounds stupid.) Look at the Silver Surfer.

It's a minor thing, I know. But The Jokester's story, and the treatment of the CSA universe in general since Infinite Crisis, has been fairly poor. The name's just kind of symbolic of all of it for me.

[cerealkiller182]

But in that same series they mentioned he carried around a silver bullet just in case, and something about him being a werewolf but I cant remember and I cant find my damn books

Idont know if anyone cares but i finally found my books and they did say Vigilante (Greg Saunders) was a werewolf in Bulleteer #2

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Can Firestorm, Captain Atom or any other superheroes/villains simulate an energy source such as a yellow suns to power superman?

[Anubis]

Probably.

[yenaled]

Yup, during Up, Up and Away they got a bunch of heroes in to try and help repower Superman.

The Ray - obviously - is perfect for that.

[Varient]

Can Firestorm, Captain Atom or any other superheroes/villains simulate an energy source such as a yellow suns to power superman?

Yes.

Firestorm has done that before for Superman.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

How much of their respective powers does it take to get Superman up and running to near top levels?

I know it depends on how drained he is.

[Lobo]

Yup, during Up, Up and Away they got a bunch of heroes in to try and help repower Superman.

The Ray - obviously - is perfect for that.

Lightray has done that before too ;)















:(

[cerealkiller182]

How much of their respective powers does it take to get Superman up and running to near top levels?

I know it depends on how drained he is.


Thats impossible to answer,theres so many factors. Supes always seems to react pretty immediately to Red Sun energy though

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Just curious if the effort they put forth to resupply superman completely drains them or if they hardly use any energy.

[cerealkiller182]

Just curious if the effort they put forth to resupply superman completely drains them or if they hardly use any energy.


Theres just so many factors. Firestorm, Captain Atom, Ray, Lightray all have varying degrees of power levels plus its dependent on their own exhaustion and fatigue coupled with Supes own exhaustion. On top of which it also is determined whether or not the writer will even recognize superheroes getting exhausted or fatigued

[Lobo]

Does anyone believe that the Final Crisis will actually be that? Or do you feel like I do that it will just lead into a new Crisis series? Perhaps the Crisis of the Endless Crisis series? :o

[WompuM]

ummm.... you're a mod so i can't trust you....
but i will venture to bet that it will be the last crisis for a while. at least a decade hopefully.

[Lobo]

I hope so and I can be trusted :hehe:

[CBG]

Next thing we know, we're looking at synonyms for Crisis.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

DC editor crisis?

[Spike_x1]

Next thing we know, we're looking at synonyms for Crisis."Cosmic Problematic Situation"? :huh:

[yenaled]

Final Crisis will probably be the last DC event to use the title for a while.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

What are the best DC titles out right now? Whether it be by DC directly, or Vertigo or any of it's other titles.

[Erik]

Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Checkmate, and Jonah Hex are my favorites. Action Comics and Detective Comics are pretty good too.

[JewishHobbit]

I walk into this DC forum an I feel like I should run out screaming :)

Anyhow, I'm binding some Infinite crisis stuff together into my own little hardback volume. During the Omac Project, Superman mentions having fought an Omac in a city (I think it said Metropolis). The only issue I have with him facing an Omac previous to OP is in an issue when he's fighting in an Amazon.

So my question... what issue did Superman fight an Omac in a city?

Also, does Teen Titans 20 tie in with the arc after that with Dr. Light (21-23)?

Thanks,
JH

[Spike_x1]

I forget the issue number specifically, but Superman fought an OMAC in Metropolis in the issue drawn by Benes that has Zoom and Bizarro racing (in opposite directions) on the cover, where Zoom has a distinct "WTF?" expression on his face.

[BrianWilly]

Superman also fought an OMAC in Metropolis during Adventures of Superman #641, where he visited Pete Ross in prison.Also, does Teen Titans 20 tie in with the arc after that with Dr. Light (21-23)?Yes, the very end of issue #20 ties directly into the Dr. Light arc. Most of the issue doesn't, although it ties into a lot of Identity Crisis stuff, and also some Superboy stuff which has to do with Infinite Crisis.

[Aristotle]

Does anyone believe that the Final Crisis will actually be that? Or do you feel like I do that it will just lead into a new Crisis series? Perhaps the Crisis of the Endless Crisis series? :oOh my God, that's the first time I've ever heard that joke/question.

[Aristotle]

I walk into this DC forum an I feel like I should run out screaming :)Oh c'mon, we're fun!

Anyhow, I'm binding some Infinite crisis stuff together into my own little hardback volume. During the Omac Project, Superman mentions having fought an Omac in a city (I think it said Metropolis). The only issue I have with him facing an Omac previous to OP is in an issue when he's fighting in an Amazon. Oh man, I remember those days. I was working on this massive chronology of Infinite Crisis on my computer, with scans, and I was about 30 scans away from completing this monstergiganticmassivething, and my computer got stolen.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's a funny story. :)

[Green Lantern]

What are the best DC titles out right now? Whether it be by DC directly, or Vertigo or any of it's other titles.Best hands down, is Fables. Try it, its Vertigo.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know if I'd still call Fables the best DC title anymore, myself. Scalped and DMZ give it some pretty stiff competition.

[Green Lantern]

I don't know if I'd still call Fables the best DC title anymore, myself. Scalped and DMZ give it some pretty stiff competition.
Haven't tried them yet... I plan too, just haven't gotten the chance... also want to try Northlanders, is it any good? And Fables is the one book I still make it to the comic shop every month to buy. The Good Prince was an awesome arc.

[TheCorpulent1]

Northlanders is quite good. Not as good as any of those other three, but it's only on its fourth issue.

And yeah, Ambrose is totally one of my favorite characters now. :up:

[SenseiofCheese]

What is the deal with writers often not fully understanding what the hell Heat Vision is? I feel like I see them mix up Supes' heat vision with Cyclops' optic blast, and vice versa.

Not a question, really, just venting.

[TheCorpulent1]

Energy of all kinds tends to knock people back in comics, whether it makes sense or not. It's weird.

[Green Lantern]

Northlanders is quite good. Not as good as any of those other three, but it's only on its fourth issue.

And yeah, Ambrose is totally one of my favorite characters now. :up:The Homeland specific arcs seem to do that... make great heroes out of people you wouldn't expect.. First Blue and then Ambrose? :up:

[Superunknown]

Just picked up issue 0 and 7 of Booster Gold. The reading was the most unique comic reading experince I've had in a long time. This stuff was so well written, the bonds of frienship, the comedy and the plot line -- all of it was great. But one thing I'm confused about is why in issue 0 does it start off as if there was more to Ted Kord's return even the dialogue says this and I certainly didn't see an issue -1 on the rack...?

Next, why at the end of issue 0 does it give a preview for issues 7 but titles it as issue 8? Is issue 7 titles as Booster Gold and Blue Beetle "Back in Action" really the latest issue? And when the heck did Skeetz start working with Black Beetle and Boosters Dad? And one last thing... how is Zero Hour still happening just because Ted didn't die?

[TheCorpulent1]

#0 was just meant in part as a tribute issue to Zero Hour. Chronologically, it comes after #6 and before #7 of the regular Booster Gold series. Think of it as Booster Gold #6 1/2.

[Superunknown]

Well, just in case I'm not able to hunt those other issues down, does Ted still make it out of this alive? I don't see how DC had the heart to break this duo up in the first place. :woot:

[TheCorpulent1]

The story of Ted's return is still going on as of the most recent issue. Bringing him back has led to some unexpected problems in the present, so it's looking like Ted will return to his appointed time and die at the end of it.

[Figs]

When it comes to DC comics I'm pretty much only a Batman fan. I was wondering what JLA or other 'epic' DC crossover stories have had some good Batman stories/events in them?

I wanted to get some more stories with Batman and possibly the Joker for my collection and also at the same time maybe open my eyes to some other DC characters I might get into.

[Green Lantern]

Anything of Morrison or Waid's JLA run is great, as is New Maps of Hell by Warren Ellis.

[Figs]

Thanks

[TheCorpulent1]

Batman and Batgirl factor heavily into Joe Kelly's Justice League Elite, as well. That was good stuff.

[CBG]

Ah. . . Cassandra should have resumed her Kasumi persona when she was on Outsiders.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't have minded that, actually. She was supposed to have graduated beyond the Batgirl identity at the end of her series and finally stepped out from behind Batman, David Cain, Lady Shiva, and everyone else's shadow. Rechristening herself Kasumi as an identity all her own would've been a good way to show that. Instead, we got... Beechen and Johns' character assassination/regression. :o

[batnkevlar]

She should name herself Cain...

[TheCorpulent1]

David Cain already goes by Cain by default. Everyone calls him "Cain," not David.

[CBG]

I wouldn't have minded that, actually. She was supposed to have graduated beyond the Batgirl identity at the end of her series and finally stepped out from behind Batman, David Cain, Lady Shiva, and everyone else's shadow. Rechristening herself Kasumi as an identity all her own would've been a good way to show that. Instead, we got... Beechen and Johns' character assassination/regression. :o

And now Beechen is going to write the Batgirl mini, explaining her behaviour over the lost year.

I fear worst than the absolute worst.

She should name herself Cain...

And be associated with the father she tried to escape from since late childhood?

[TheCorpulent1]

And now Beechen is going to write the Batgirl mini, explaining her behaviour over the lost year.

I fear worst than the absolute worst.
I know. I can't ****ing believe that ****. Why would they put the guy who sparked all the controversy and "Save Batgirl" campaigns on Batgirl again? Get Kelly Puckett or even Anderson Gabrych back for it. Fans would automatically take it a little better coming from them rather than ****ing Beechen, may his innards rot and his bowels be filled with acid. :o

[trustyside-kick]

Did I hear right that they were talking about a Batgirl title after Final Crisis?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but don't get too excited. It's written by Adam Beechen.

[Odin's Fury]

When it comes to DC comics I'm pretty much only a Batman fan. I was wondering what JLA or other 'epic' DC crossover stories have had some good Batman stories/events in them?

I wanted to get some more stories with Batman and possibly the Joker for my collection and also at the same time maybe open my eyes to some other DC characters I might get into.

I also really enjoyed the way Batman was written in JLA: Foreign Bodies, a graphic novel one-shot. It'll also give you a great over-view of the other JLA characters.

ALSO, there are a few Joker storylines in Superman over the years, and most of them have been pretty good. I'm not really sure what issues they were...but I'll search for them.

[CBG]

I know. I can't ****ing believe that ****. Why would they put the guy who sparked all the controversy and "Save Batgirl" campaigns on Batgirl again? Get Kelly Puckett or even Anderson Gabrych back for it. Fans would automatically take it a little better coming from them rather than ****ing Beechen, may his innards rot and his bowels be filled with acid. :o

You think DiDio and co-editors have some common sense. But no. . .

What's worst is that Beechen claims to have read previous BG trades.

Good god, this isn't going to bode well.

Did I hear right that they were talking about a Batgirl title after Final Crisis?

Batgirl-mini, written by the one who ruined her.

[Varient]

Is there a DC appreciation thread?
(Before I start one? DC has come a LONG way since 2002 in my opinion.)

[TheCorpulent1]

A long way down, I guess. :huh:

[Varient]

A long way down, I guess. :huh:

Ouch.

I didn't find it by that name, So I guess you may be right.

[TheCorpulent1]

I preferred pre-Infinite Crisis DC by far.

[WompuM]

Yeah. I just reread the story where Eclipso, umms infects? Superman and then Captain Marvel fights him. Awesome.

[CBG]

I preferred pre-Infinite Crisis DC by far.

This.

Due to a large part on Cassandra Cain's behalf.

[Scarecrow_King]

spinning off the cassandra cain thing, did anybody else thing the Teen Titans: Titans East story line sucked? it was horribly rushed, didn't explain things, and featured a bunch of B- and C-list characters. i thought it didn't do the Titans nearly the justice they deserve.

[CBG]

Titans East started out alright. . . but as it went on, it just devolved into crap. You could blame it on Beechen's involvement.

The Slade-drug explanation. . . well, it could be worse. But yeah, Titans East sucked.

[cerealkiller182]

in general they have really struggled with Teen Titans post-IC. A number of hypesters have pointed out the series of second rate evil titan mirror images. This new batch, Terror Titans, I hope are interesting and maybe stick around as a nemesis of sorts, but they have to move on from that whole concept.

[WompuM]

What's the deal with the hot busted tees models? Boner of the month.

[Manic]

Okay, um... is Spoiler back from the dead?

[BrianWilly]

It would appear so...but of course this being comics, zombies or clones or evil twins or alien dopplegangers can't be ruled out yet. Basically, in the latest issue of Robin, the person who's been running around in the Gotham Underground mini in a Spoiler costume lifted her hood when no one was looking, and it was revealed that she was...

...

...well, technically she looked like every single other generic blond female ever drawn by a comic artist (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i240/CircetheGreat/Other/Wondy10007.jpg). But let's just say that she didn't not look like Stephanie Brown:p. And she also knows Tim's name, so...

...jury's still out, but pretty close to a verdict at this point.

[WompuM]

It's supposed to be revealed in the Spoiler/Robin one shot. $2.99. Surprised they didnt make it a weekly.

[Aristotle]

What's the deal with the Daxamites? On the one hand, in Invasion, they had a very scary space fleet. On the other hand, in Sin Corps War, they're supposedly so xenophobic that they won't even build spaceships. And then this month's Superman issue is solicited as involving "the forces of Daxam!" Seriously, what's going on with this inconsistency? Is there a correct answer?

[Whirlysplat]

What's the deal with the Daxamites?

It's all because of Infinite Crisis; Lots has changed.

[TheCorpulent1]

It sounds like they keep changing it back and forth from what Aristotle describes, though. Much like they did with the post-IC JLA founders.

[Manic]

It's supposed to be revealed in the Spoiler/Robin one shot. $2.99. Surprised they didnt make it a weekly.
Has that come out already?

[TheCorpulent1]

Nope.

[trustyside-kick]

Is that new Titans comic supposed to be a mini-series or ongoing? The comic with like Dick and some of the other originals and second gen. Titans forming a team.

[batnkevlar]

Titans is an ongoing as far as I know...

[J. J. Jameson]

Stupid question from a DCU newb...well, newb to anything other than Batman...

If I wanna get on the boat for Final Crisis how lost will I be if I've read CoIE, Identity Crisis, the Countdown to IC tie-ins (OMAC Project, etc.), and Infinite Crisis itself?

[Artistsean]

Has Captain Marvel, while being Captain Marvel, acted like a big kid? Does he act like Billy Batson while he is Captain Marvel or is he more like an adult superhero when he is Captain Marvel?

[yenaled]

He's like a kid trying to be an adult.

[Scarecrow_King]

I hope it is Stephanie. I thought she was a good character. And I was always rooting for Tim and Steph.

[CBG]

Does anyone here believe Countdown's characterization with Mary Marvel?

[Anubis]

Has Captain Marvel, while being Captain Marvel, acted like a big kid? Does he act like Billy Batson while he is Captain Marvel or is he more like an adult superhero when he is Captain Marvel?

He's like a kid trying to be an adult.

Well, not anymore. He's more like a seventeen year old veteran superhero acting like an ancient God Wizard now.

[yenaled]

I'm still happily ignoring all of that.

[Blader5489]

I've been trying to get more into Batman and just finished Year One for the first time. What should I read next, The Killing Joke or The Man Who Laughs?

[CorpusBlack]

I've been trying to get more into Batman and just finished Year One for the first time. What should I read next, The Killing Joke or The Man Who Laughs?

The Man Who Laughs as well as Long Halloween and Dark Victory.

[Artistsean]

Captain Marvel is like a kid trying to be an adult.

What comics would show a good example of that?

[Spike_x1]

Before coming into his current status, Billy was pretty much a veteran superhero, so it wasn't so much that he was trying to act like an adult; he really had become very mature all by himself after years of experience.

[TheCorpulent1]

Has there been any attention given to the fact that Billy is essentially being robbed of his life at a very young age?

[J. J. Jameson]

Stupid question from a DCU newb...well, newb to anything other than Batman...

If I wanna get on the boat for Final Crisis how lost will I be if I've read CoIE, Identity Crisis, the Countdown to IC tie-ins (OMAC Project, etc.), and Infinite Crisis itself?

Gee, thanks, guys. :whatever:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm still not entirely sure what Final Crisis will be about, to be honest. I think all you'd really need to have read is the last few issues of Countdown.

[BrianWilly]

None of those things have a lot to do with Final Crisis. But you won't be very lost at all, because Final Crisis doesn't have a whole lot to do with anything that's been going on in the DCU lately. Just know that there is a multiverse again, the New Gods have been killed by the Source itself, and...and that's pretty much it.

Do not, under any circumstances, read Countdown to Final Crisis (http://photo.gangus.com/d/26788-2/ackbar.jpg). Anything that it has to do with Final Crisis will be almost perfunctory and self contained; the creators themselves have said as much.

[TheCorpulent1]

What about DC Universe #0? Is that a direct lead-in to Final Crisis or a direct follow-up to Countdown?

[BrianWilly]

According to DiDio (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=146145), that's more of a springboard to all of the upcoming going-ons of the DCU; not just Countdown-related (Countdown's stories themselves end at #1) and not just FC-related. But, yes, since it's written by Morrison and Johns, I imagine that it's going to have a lot to do with Final Crisis.

[TheCorpulent1]

So that should be basically all the prep anyone needs for FC.

[Varient]

Does anyone here believe Countdown's characterization with Mary Marvel?

Well.

IMPO they actually did the first part correctly,.. she was overdue to grow up. That and the base of her powerset being Black Adams instead of Shazam with a harsher code toward evil, I wasn't surprized at the way she started acting.

The heavy paranoia and lashing out at friends for little cause was the only issue I had - now she appears to be on her way back,..

V.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't get why they'd redeem her, then make her evil again within like 2 or 3 issues.

[CBG]

I blame Women in Refridgerators syndrome.

[TheCorpulent1]

Because... if she weren't evil, she would be killed, chopped up, and put in a refrigerator? :huh:

[WompuM]

dont forget eaten by little rat men.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's gotta be one of the dumbest deaths of all time. That's so gruesome that it enters the realm of comedy.

[J. J. Jameson]

So that should be basically all the prep anyone needs for FC.

Righto. Thanks.

[yenaled]

What about DC Universe #0? Is that a direct lead-in to Final Crisis or a direct follow-up to Countdown?

I love the fact that at 52 #52 they wanted to make it 52 pages long and peopel were absolutely clamoring for it.

At Countdown #52 they have taken it away from Countdown brand and given it a different title and a totally different direction. Things really couldn't be different.

What comics would show a good example of that?

There is a really good Green Lantern issue #72 that shows it perfectly.

[Anubis]

Also that Superman/power of Shazam mini from a few years ago. That was a good example, as well as being an all around great Captain Marvel story in general. What was the name, first Thunder I think?

[Hush]

Is there an earth in the Multiverse that dealt with the elseworlds tale were supes had a kid and he developes powers and is a hippy *****?

[CBG]

Because... if she weren't evil, she would be killed, chopped up, and put in a refrigerator? :huh:

I'd also shove in "blatant mischaracterization as direct or supporting means to achieve an end".

Leslie Thompkins, for example.

[WompuM]

Hey, she was superboy punched. And they hinted at her return in Gotham Underground. And if stephanie is really alive, than batman will have nothing to beyotch about.

[Manic]

I wonder if Thompkins just faked Steph's death. I mean, Leslie did say she just wanted to teach Bruce a lesson, right?

[BrianWilly]

Going by Gotham Underground, the fact that Leslie's been pulling a fast one on everyone seems pretty much like what they're going to go for. Who knows if it'll end up being a good explanation, though; apparently GU isn't quite living up to the hype.now she appears to be on her way back,..Mary? You know that they just turned her evil again, right? After she had turned back to good?

[Artistsean]

Are these the Captain Marvel comics in question?
Green Lantern #72
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/sagl72.jpg

and

Are there any specific issues of Superman/Power of Shazam that would be best so that i wouldn't have to buy the whole book?
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/350px-Superman_-_Shazam_3.jpg

[yenaled]

Are these the Captain Marvel comics in question?
Green Lantern #72
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/sagl72.jpg

and

Are there any specific issues of Superman/Power of Shazam that would be best so that i wouldn't have to buy the whole book?
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/350px-Superman_-_Shazam_3.jpg

hehe no. Green Lantern (volume 3) #72 (http://www.dcuguide.com/GL/GL3_072.php) - It's a Kyle Rayner issue. Collected in the first Kyle Rayner tpb - Baptism of Fire.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hey, she was superboy punched. And they hinted at her return in Gotham Underground. And if stephanie is really alive, than batman will have nothing to beyotch about.
Well, he would've still been horribly betrayed by one of his oldest and dearest friends. But, you know, no biggie.

[Scarecrow_King]

I wonder if Thompkins just faked Steph's death. I mean, Leslie did say she just wanted to teach Bruce a lesson, right?

but batman was present when stephanie died. i'm pretty sure he would check to make sure she was really dead.

[Anubis]

Are these the Captain Marvel comics in question?
Green Lantern #72
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/sagl72.jpg

and

Are there any specific issues of Superman/Power of Shazam that would be best so that i wouldn't have to buy the whole book?
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/350px-Superman_-_Shazam_3.jpg

Buy the whole thing, it's f**king Josh Middleton and it's an awesome story to boot.

[Aristotle]

Are there any specific issues of Superman/Power of Shazam that would be best so that i wouldn't have to buy the whole book?I don't know if that's the best way to be reading comics, dude. Just seems a little incomplete and patchy.

[WompuM]

Was thinking about this today in class.

So, Green Lantern. Does he control the temperature of his constructs? For instance, if he makes a cast iron fire poker, can he make it glowing red hot like in Raiders of the Lost Arc?

And also, if Hal Jordan makes a baseball bat construct, would Alan Scott be vulnerable to it?

[The Question]

Was thinking about this today in class.

So, Green Lantern. Does he control the temperature of his constructs? For instance, if he makes a cast iron fire poker, can he make it glowing red hot like in Raiders of the Lost Arc?

And also, if Hal Jordan makes a baseball bat construct, would Alan Scott be vulnerable to it?

Yes, a GL can control how hot or cold their constructs are, and no, because the contructs aren't actually made of what they're shaped as.

[TheCorpulent1]

Alan Scott would not be vulnerable to any constructs another Green Lantern made because those constructs would not be made of wood. They'd be made of GL energy made to look like wood.
Buy the whole thing, it's f**king Josh Middleton and it's an awesome story to boot.
****ing Josh Middleton made Superman and Captain Marvel look pretty goofy on that cover...

[CorpusBlack]

****ing Josh Middleton made Superman and Captain Marvel look pretty goofy on that cover...

They look like they're struggling to see who can produce the sickest fart.

[CLARKY]

Bwahahaha! so true! especially Shazam!
hey does someone have this pic, but bigger ? thanks.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/comicsfvr/hitch-JL.jpg

[JustABill]

As someone who hasn't read DC for a while and wants to get back into it...what are the flagship titles for Bats and Supes now?

[WompuM]

"Detective" and "Action".

"Batman" is knee deep in Morrison right now. Might want to check out Trinity when it comes out.

[CBG]

Did Jericho drop off from the face of the Earth in Teen Titans?

After Titans East, he's virtually missing. Is he STILL in Match's body all this time?

[cerealkiller182]

I think he'll show up in The Titans

[TheCorpulent1]

Did Jericho drop off from the face of the Earth in Teen Titans?

After Titans East, he's virtually missing. Is he STILL in Match's body all this time?
Well, to be fair, Match has much better powers than he does.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Alan Scott would not be vulnerable to any constructs another Green Lantern made because those constructs would not be made of wood. They'd be made of GL energy made to look like wood.

****ing Josh Middleton made Superman and Captain Marvel look pretty goofy on that cover...

Wait, what? Wood?

[CBG]

I think he'll show up in The Titans

Him, along with Tempest would complete the 'nostalgic' Titans line-up.

Well, to be fair, Match has much better powers than he does.

However, he's virtually missing from the pages of Teen Titans, ever since Amazon's Attack months ago. After all that effort Johns did to bring him back, he's pretty much discarded and never heard from again when crap Beechen took the writing reigns of TT since Amazon's Attack.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, Jericho always sucked anyway.
Wait, what? Wood?
Yeah. Alan Scott's vulnerable to it.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well SOB, I never knew that.

[TheCorpulent1]

Did you just call me an SOB for being informative? :cmad:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I would never do that. If I did call you an SOB I would say,

you motor boating SOB you! :D

[TheCorpulent1]

That tears it! I'm a sailboat man, sucka!! :cmad:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So what's a boom jig?

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a really loud jig that leads to Apokolips. Duh.