The Official DC Stupid Question Thread....

[TheCorpulent1]

I hate seeing connections between heroes' parents and grandparents and all that kind of stuff. It makes the superhero world feel very limited, like Batman and Superman were somehow fated to be best buddies because their families were buddies before they were even born.

[Varient]

I just read the solicit for Superman/Batman #50, and this is what it said;

"Celebrate fifty blockbuster issues with this extra-sized extravaganza as we reveal the untold tale of Thomas Wayne's meeting with Jor-El and how it shaped Gotham City's future! You don't dare miss this one!"

My question, regarding the above solicitation, is "WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUU**?"

LLOOLL

Based on DC comics history,.. You have to WONDER how the council on Krypton could ignore the multitude of aliens coming to visit Jor-El During the hassle with him telling them that the planet would go BOOM.

If Jor-El were Hawkings and Krypton was Earth,... WE WOULD BE TAKING HIS BEHIND SERIOUSLY IF SPACE ALIENS KEPT VISITING HIS BEHIND AFTER HAWKINGS TOLD US THE PLANET WAS ABOUT TO EXPLODE.

[anrrd_2]

oh dear lord...we are going to find out through some strange sequence of events that jor-el told thomas wayne about his eventual death, and that he had to do it because of what kind of man it would make bruce. so now thamas wayne is made out to be a hero and some sort of martyr.

[TheCorpulent1]

Why would Jor-El know the future?

[anrrd_2]

Why would Jor-El know the future?

stranger things have happened

[yenaled]

It's probably just going to explore how Thomas Wayne built up his financial empire or maybe the spark that set it off - Kryptonian medical knowledge maybe?

For such an important character Thomas Wayne is vastly unknown - the guy must have been quite interesting to be such a prolific entrepreneur. Exploring Wendell Rand in Iron Fist worked out really well it might be quite interesting to explore Thomas Wayne.

[TheCorpulent1]

Sure, but they're exploring Wendell Rand in the established context of his established life story. Outside of traveling with Orson--who's still intricately tied to the Iron Fist legacy that looms over Rand's whole life--we knew the broad strokes of most of what we've seen. Brubaker and Fraction merely fleshed it out and gave us a definitive telling of it; it didn't just spring an "oh, by the way, Wendell Rand just happened to be best friends with Luke Cage's dad, too!!!!" revelation on us out of nowhere.

Here, they're basically shoehorning Jor-El and Thomas Wayne into each other's lives, ostensibly because their sons happen to be friends. It just sounds like a bad idea right from the start.

[yenaled]

Oh I don't disagree with that it's a silly little coincidental thing that makes fictional universes seem a little more fake.

Just saying not every father story (be it Jor-El, Thomas Wayne, Wendell Rand or Raymond Hauser/Aaron Rayner) is necessarily a bad story even if it is a retcon.

Also I'm proud that I didn't have to look up Kyle Rayner's father's name :D

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree, it doesn't necessarily have to be bad just because it involves major characters' fathers. This particular story featuring major characters' fathers, however, does seem like it would be bad.

[moose1132]

I don't exactly have a question, but I'm more or less looking for suggestions. I recently bought a few trade book collections (I think that's what tbc stands for right? ... there's my stupid question). This is the first time I've ever read any kind of comics. Anyway, the two DC comics I got were The Long Halloween and the Killing Joke. I espicially loved the Long Halloween and ended up reading the whole thing in less than a day.

So here's why I'm lost now. I've been looking into getting more of these tbc's since I've enjoyed the first bunch I bought so much. Now, I know I want to get Dark Victory since it's a sequel to the Long Halloween and I think I'll also get Hush and Year One as far as Batman stuff goes. But does anyone have any other suggestions for me? I'm mainly looking for a Justice League story or a solo Superman one. I'd like something that isn't crazy complex; since like I said, I'm a total newbie here with comic reading. Feel free to make a long list. :)

[yenaled]

Even though it isn't continuity I'd suggest All Star Superman for a nice Superman introduction. It comes with no strings attached and is just great Superman stories.

[TheCorpulent1]

Keep in mind that Clark Kent isn't really that much of an idiot all the time, though. ;)

[CBG]

Even though it isn't continuity I'd suggest All Star Superman for a nice Superman introduction. It comes with no strings attached and is just great Superman stories.

Superman For All Seasons and Superman: Peace on Earth are also stories I recommend to new Superman readers.

[Varient]

I was really thinking about a "Lois Lane" just becuase thread because I really want to showcase my hate for the character.

You think it would float? would others contribute to a hate thread?

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably, although I think you'll get more arguments for why Lois ain't so bad. To be honest, she's kind of a non-entity these days. Superman's life as Clark has been so completely ignored in favor of his Superman stuff that Clark Kent himself feels like a bit of a non-entity.

[moose1132]

Ok thanks, I'll look into those. How is "Justice"? I read the description and it sounded like it takes place early on in the Justice League years. Plus it looks like the artwork is amazing.

[The Eagle Host]

Justice sucked. Terrible characterizations and horrendous dialogue.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's Alex Ross painting over Doug Braithwaite's pencils, so its art certainly is amazing. It's not in continuity, though. It's basically Alex Ross' take on the Super-Friends cartoon. Reaction to it around here was mixed, but I think most people liked it.

[The Eagle Host]

No one liked it. It sucked.

[Varient]

It's Alex Ross painting over Doug Braithwaite's pencils, so its art certainly is amazing. It's not in continuity, though. It's basically Alex Ross' take on the Super-Friends cartoon. Reaction to it around here was mixed, but I think most people liked it.

???

First "Tact",
Now "Charity?"


Are U feeling Okay Corp?

[yenaled]

Keep in mind that Clark Kent isn't really that much of an idiot all the time, though. ;)

It's only really the first story where he is written as a dolt.

[TheCorpulent1]

???

First "Tact",
Now "Charity?"


Are U feeling Okay Corp?
The guy's asking for honest recommendations and I'm giving them to him. I am capable of some degree of objectivity when the mood strikes. :o

[DawnWarrior]

I don't exactly have a question, but I'm more or less looking for suggestions. I recently bought a few trade book collections (I think that's what tbc stands for right? ... there's my stupid question). This is the first time I've ever read any kind of comics. Anyway, the two DC comics I got were The Long Halloween and the Killing Joke. I espicially loved the Long Halloween and ended up reading the whole thing in less than a day.

So here's why I'm lost now. I've been looking into getting more of these tbc's since I've enjoyed the first bunch I bought so much. Now, I know I want to get Dark Victory since it's a sequel to the Long Halloween and I think I'll also get Hush and Year One as far as Batman stuff goes. But does anyone have any other suggestions for me? I'm mainly looking for a Justice League story or a solo Superman one. I'd like something that isn't crazy complex; since like I said, I'm a total newbie here with comic reading. Feel free to make a long list. :)
JLA: New World Order by Grant Morrison.
JLA: Year One by Mark Waid.
DC: New Frontier by Darwyn Cooke. This one's outside continuity, for the most part; it basically takes the Silver Age DC heroes and tells a story set firmly in the late-50's, early 60's, McCarthyist, space-exploring, Cold-War-paranoia-filled era that these characters were first created in. I haven't read it yet, but I have seen the movie which, I've heard, pares things down quite a bit.

[Spike_x1]

I don't exactly have a question, but I'm more or less looking for suggestions. I recently bought a few trade book collections (I think that's what tbc stands for right? ... there's my stupid question). This is the first time I've ever read any kind of comics. Anyway, the two DC comics I got were The Long Halloween and the Killing Joke. I espicially loved the Long Halloween and ended up reading the whole thing in less than a day.

So here's why I'm lost now. I've been looking into getting more of these tbc's since I've enjoyed the first bunch I bought so much. Now, I know I want to get Dark Victory since it's a sequel to the Long Halloween and I think I'll also get Hush and Year One as far as Batman stuff goes. But does anyone have any other suggestions for me? I'm mainly looking for a Justice League story or a solo Superman one. I'd like something that isn't crazy complex; since like I said, I'm a total newbie here with comic reading. Feel free to make a long list. :)Superman: Birthright is a pretty good modern origin story.
I'm definitely not a fan of the problems surrounding it and it's pseudo place in continuity, but it's still a very nice book.

[CBG]

Here's a question:

Whatever happened to the Green Lantern whose domain involved the planet Krypton? He dead or active now?

[BrianWilly]

Tomar-Re is dead. Tomar-Tu, his son, is currently active as that sector's GL. There's no Krypton anymore, of course:oldrazz:.

[ObakeTora]

Why for the love of cheese, grits and gravy can't they adapt Suicide Squad? Im a Marvelite and this comic has made me into a DC fool.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Shouldn't the Wisdom of Solomon make Captain Marvel a fairly competent sorcerer? I mean, I know he's The Wizard now, but before, I mean. Many legends say that Solomon was a proficient sorcerer, capable of summoning and controlling demons, djins, and angels. So, I guess I'm asking: Has Billy ever shown any skill in the mystic arts, besides knowing enough about certain demons to know how hard to punch them?

No disrespect but I dont see how having the "Wisdom" of Solomon translates into having the knowledge or abilities of Solomon.

[BrianWilly]

It depends on the writer. Some interpret as intuition, others interpret it as a voice in your head telling you what to do, others interpret it as literal information that you possess. Or all of the above.

[TheCorpulent1]

I interpret it as just having the common sense to not come off like a kid in an adult's body. That always made the most sense to me.

[BrianWilly]

It should do more than just make him think like an adult, though. The average adult doesn't have the wisdom of Solomon, after all; Shazam's gifts should be extraordinary.

[TheCorpulent1]

So he comes up with a stupendous insight every now and then on top of it. The Wisdom of Solomon is all but ignored in his power set anyway, given that there's not a lot of room for wisdom when your response to almost everything--like every other superhero--is to pummel it until it stops being a problem.

[BrianWilly]

Johns highlighted it quite a bit. One of the best uses I've ever seen for it was when it forced him to break up with Stargirl. And then Mary had a great line later when she told him Solomon's wisdom wasn't that great, since it told her to stop listening to rock music.

STUPID ****ING COUNTDOWN

[TheCorpulent1]

lulz, I don't remember that Mary Marvel thing. Silly Wisdom of Solomon.

[CBG]

Mary Marvel will remain bad until her showdown with Supergirl in FC.

I hate these ridiculous character directions. . .

[TheCorpulent1]

I keep hoping everything'll be set right again after FC. But I doubt it will be.

[WompuM]

Well, which would you rather have;

Mary turn evil/good/evil/good?

or

Jason Todd turn brat/dead/alive/evil/octopus/noble/evil?

You decide.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd rather have character arcs that make sense. I think someone involved in the whole Countdown cluster**** actually said, "Jason Todd is back where he started. Sometimes character arcs are circular." No, mother****er, they're not. If they were they'd be called character ****ing circles. :o :o :o :o :o :o

[MyPokerShirt]

Can you show me a DC book (not Vertigo) that will prove to me DC doesn't suck? This is an honest request and not a dig. I honestly want to stop thinking DC sucks. Oh and you cannot say 52. (Read most of it and I'll get to the rest eventually.) I want something current.

[MyPokerShirt]

I'd rather have character arcs that make sense. I think someone involved in the whole Countdown cluster**** actually said, "Jason Todd is back where he started. Sometimes character arcs are circular." No, mother****er, they're not. If they were they'd be called character ****ing circles. :o :o :o :o :o :o

I believe when they say arc you should think of a protractor. You started at 0 degrees and have gone through 180 degrees but end where you started. It makes sense, man.

[Manic]

I believe when they say arc you should think of a protractor. You started at 0 degrees and have gone through 180 degrees but end where you started. It makes sense, man.
You end up back where you started when you go 360 degrees. That's a circle.

180 degrees puts you across from where you started. That is an arc.

[TheCorpulent1]

And if Jason Todd went 180 degrees from where he started, we'd know because he'd actually be a good character. :o

[MyPokerShirt]

You end up back where you started when you go 360 degrees. That's a circle.

180 degrees puts you across from where you started. That is an arc.

Oh jeez, I'm not arguing maths here. What I was trying to say was a 180 degree arc leaves you at the same level you were on before. You've moved across, but not changed by any degree. Look, whatever, I was just trying to illustrate what they meant and I think you know what I meant. I did a maths degree though, so this is an embarassing convo *sigh*

[Manic]

Oh jeez, I'm not arguing maths here. What I was trying to say was a 180 degree arc leaves you at the same level you were on before. You've moved across, but not changed by any degree. Look, whatever, I was just trying to illustrate what they meant and I think you know what I meant. I did a maths degree though, so this is an embarassing convo *sigh*
Actually, I'm having a hard time figuring out what you're saying. Drop the analogy.

[Doc Destruction]

Can you show me a DC book (not Vertigo) that will prove to me DC doesn't suck? This is an honest request and not a dig. I honestly want to stop thinking DC sucks. Oh and you cannot say 52. (Read most of it and I'll get to the rest eventually.) I want something current.

Well that's tough right now, everyone is bracing for Final Crisis and hoping it's more COIE and less Countdown.

But, it's probably a good starting point for you. Other than that, Green Lantern books are pretty ace right now.

[Spike_x1]

Oh jeez, I'm not arguing maths here. What I was trying to say was a 180 degree arc leaves you at the same level you were on before. You've moved across, but not changed by any degree. Look, whatever, I was just trying to illustrate what they meant and I think you know what I meant. I did a maths degree though, so this is an embarassing convo *sigh*You might be on the same level, but you're not in the same place as you started, which is what they were talking about. To be in the same place, you'd need a circle. Fact. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Well that's tough right now, everyone is bracing for Final Crisis and hoping it's more COIE and less Countdown.

But, it's probably a good starting point for you. Other than that, Green Lantern books are pretty ace right now.
I hate not being able to recommend Blue Beetle or Checkmate in good conscience anymore. :(

Booster Gold's solid, though. Kind of steeped in DC continuity for a beginner, but a good read all the same.

[The Eagle Host]

No. It's not.

[Calavera]

nvm this question sucks

[TheCorpulent1]

No. It's not.
Not everything can be written by Morrison. :o

[yenaled]

It could be, if you only believe.

[Calavera]

i have a question that i already wanted to turn into a thread

what i want to know is...


why is the joker still alive?

the things hes done in killing joke, death in the family and the end of no man's land justify killing him imo. the man is hopeless and its gotten old. why doesent he just die off already?


btw didn't magog get aquitted of killing him in kingdom come?

[TheCorpulent1]

Batman doesn't kill, nor does he tolerate killing on his watch. That's why.

[The Question]

Also, there are no legal grounds to execute him. He is genuinely insane.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. Insane like a fox.

A crazy fox.

[Manic]

If anyone should kill the Joker, it's Jason Todd.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or, even better, the Joker could kill Jason Todd again and then laugh.

[shapeshifter]

If anyone should kill the Joker, it's Jason Todd.
Jason Todd is just crazy enough to think that maybe Batman should kill Joker for what he has done.
If Batman were to kill the joker he would be no better than him (in his eyes anyway).

[WompuM]

corp, your new avitar. i dunno man. i'm gonna miss those squirrels.

[Hush]

I would love if the Joker killed Jason Todd again I think that would be the best.

[CBG]

Or, even better, the Joker could kill Jason Todd again and then laugh.

I'd laugh like heck if that happens.

[Mister J]

Or, even better, the Joker could kill Jason Todd again and then laugh.
I'd write Didio a thank you letter if that happened.

I'd also send a picture of a middle finger to Winick, with 'HA HA' written all over it.

I may do that last one anyway.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know, reviewers finally seem to be catching on that Winick sucks. His career may get a picture like that soon.
corp, your new avitar. i dunno man. i'm gonna miss those squirrels.
Ira Glass is classier than squirrels. :oldrazz:

[Manic]

Like I keep saying, Winick isn't a horrible writer. Most of the stuff I've read by him starts off pretty decently, but teeters out later. He just needs to be given his own corner of the DC universe, like if he was only allowed to write about Green Arrow's family. Except Connor, who needed to join a trimmed down JSA.

[TheCorpulent1]

My problem with Winick is that, for the past few years, you can't even talk about his work without a "but." Like, Green Arrow was pretty good for a while but it tanked after One Year Later. Green Arrow and Black Canary is good now, as far as I hear, but it started off badly and Winick decided the best use for Connor was to make him a vegetable. Titans brings all the classic characters back together but Winick's handling them really badly. Et cetera, et cetera. That's actually the same problem I had with Chuck Austen back when he was working on comics. He had some good ideas but he was terrible at following through on them. Winick may have started out as a good writer on Exiles and Outsiders and earlier Green Arrow stories, but he seems to be falling more and more off his game these days.

[Ibn]

Under the Hood was a dark, emotional, poetic reunion story. Yeah the circumstances were shifty, but Judd Winick, through the use of just good literary technique, did a GREAT job in handling that story. Some of the most powerful moments in recent Batman history are in those books. The only problem about those stories is that they opened the floodgate for brand new craptastic Jason Todd stories.

I got a question. WHy the hell did they give Grant Morrisson the reigns to Batman's son's story? THAT sucked.

[The Question]

I got a question. WHy the hell did they give Grant Morrisson the reigns to Batman's son's story? THAT sucked.

Because Morrison is usually a good writer.

[TheCorpulent1]

Under the Hood was a dark, emotional, poetic reunion story. Yeah the circumstances were shifty, but Judd Winick, through the use of just good literary technique, did a GREAT job in handling that story. Some of the most powerful moments in recent Batman history are in those books. The only problem about those stories is that they opened the floodgate for brand new craptastic Jason Todd stories.

I got a question. WHy the hell did they give Grant Morrisson the reigns to Batman's son's story? THAT sucked.
I know it was just weirdly coincidental timing, but Brubaker's Captain America did basically the exact same plot about a billion times better than "Under the Hood" right around the same time. Plus, nobody liked Jason Todd anyway. That's the whole reason he died in the first place.

[Hush]

Ok so i read that horrible piece of crap that was Ressurection of Ras and yeah is he still alive? God that story sucked.

[yenaled]

Winick is a horrible writer everything he touches turns to crap.

[TheCorpulent1]

Except Exiles.

[Kitsune]

Or, even better, the Joker could kill Jason Todd again and then laugh.

Or we could all vote to have him killed again. But Michigan and Florida would only get half their delegates counted.

[TheCorpulent1]

And, of course, the option to kill Jason would be removed from the ballot, just to spice things up.

[Kitsune]

corp, your new avitar. i dunno man. i'm gonna miss those squirrels.
Is that Ira Glass? I remember hearing him talk about watching a movie on TV with his wife once and it surprised me because I always thought he was gay.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's Ira Glass with his crazily positioned desk. I thought he was gay until I heard him talk about his wife, too. I think it might be the nasally voice.

[Kitsune]

Yeah, it's Ira Glass with his crazily positioned desk. I thought he was gay until I heard him talk about his wife, too. I think it might be the nasally voice.

She could be a beard.

[TheCorpulent1]

Possibly. I couldn't find anything on the subject. I did learn that he's 49 now, though. He really, really doesn't look 49. :wow:

[Kitsune]

Possibly. I couldn't find anything on the subject. I did learn that he's 49 now, though. He really, really doesn't look 49. :wow:

Maybe he has a picture hanging in his wall that looks age 49.

[WolfCypher]

Last I read, Danny Cassidy was no longer Blue Devil anymore...now he is. WTF is up with that and what issue did he go back to BD?

[Ibn]

Because Morrison is usually a good writer.


Oh nah I like Grant Morrison. I'm just saying, if anyone should have been handling that story it's Mark Waid. Ibn al Xuffasch was such a dope ass character. Batman's son kinda became his baby in a way. They should have atleast had him guest write or something. Hell, I dont see how a "Son of Batman" arc isn't big enough to have a couple writers, ala 52.

[yenaled]

Last I read, Danny Cassidy was no longer Blue Devil anymore...now he is. WTF is up with that and what issue did he go back to BD?

I believe, but could be wrong, he just was Blue Devil again in Day of Vengence. No explanation just ignored what happened to him.

[WompuM]

So who do you guys think is more powerful?

Dr. Manhattan or Dave from 2001: Space Oddesey?

[TheCorpulent1]

Dave's a ****ing fetus. Dr. Manhattan would eat him.

[Varient]

Last I read, Danny Cassidy was no longer Blue Devil anymore...now he is. WTF is up with that and what issue did he go back to BD?

??

I thought he pulled out an old BD suit from his days as a stunt man,... and is using that instead of being the real thing.

Did I miss an issue?

[Doc Destruction]

Nope, he did.

And got his hell powers back in the last issue - #25.

[WompuM]

Dave's a ****ing fetus. Dr. Manhattan would eat him.

He's not a regular fetus. He's a superfetus.

[TheCorpulent1]

He's a star fetus. Dr. Manhattan eats stars for breakfast.

[WompuM]

You don't give Dave enough credit. He turned Jupiter into a star. Dr. Manhattan turns some sand into glass.

[TheCorpulent1]

Dr. Manhattan's glass would kick Dave's star's ass. :o

[WompuM]

Okay, I say we have Alan Moore fight the reanimated corpse of Alan C. Clarke. Wnner takes all.

[Manic]

Well, Alan Moore is Grigori Rasputin, so we know there's nothing anyone could do to kill him.

[The Question]

Well, Alan Moore is Grigori Rasputin, so we know there's nothing anyone could do to kill him.

....****. That just explains everything.

[WompuM]

I meant Arthur C. Clarke btw. My bad.

[ObakeTora]

Countdown;


Am I the only one that doesnt like the whole Jimmy Olsen gaining superpowers/fighting Darkseid, being called Supes pal and having a stupid girlfriend who is a rip off of my third favorite Virtua On character Fei Yen and calls him Olsenbug?
Or wait, am I the only one here who just doesnt like Jimmy Olsen?

[CBG]

Countdown;


Am I the only one that doesnt like the whole Jimmy Olsen gaining superpowers/fighting Darkseid, being called Supes pal and having a stupid girlfriend who is a rip off of my third favorite Virtua On character Fei Yen and calls him Olsenbug?
Or wait, am I the only one here who just doesnt like Jimmy Olsen?

I also dislike the Jimmy Olsen storyline in Countdown.

In addition, I never liked the character period.

[TheCorpulent1]

I like Jimmy, but his Countdown storyline seemed stupid and, now that he's regressed to his 1970s self in Action Comics, pointless.

[Manic]

I haven't kept up with Superman or Countdown, but let me guess: Jimmy is no longer a Pulitzer winning star journalist?

[TheCorpulent1]

Jimmy is fetching Perry's coffee again.

[ObakeTora]

I got something he can fetch.

https://www.candydirect.com/html/cleanimages/candybars/almonbar.jpg

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I like Jimmy, but his Countdown storyline seemed stupid and, now that he's regressed to his 1970s self in Action Comics, pointless.

Not to mention that the neglected to resolve the issues that Jimmy must now know who Batman is.

[Jawn]

I've got a question about Pariah.

I read Infinite Crisis a while ago (trade paperback edition) and recently was skimming some wikipedia. There, I read that Pariah was killed in the Infinite Crisis. I had no memory of this. A google search showed me that this apparently occurred in Infinite Crisis, Issue 2. However, leafing through my tpb, I couldn't find anything to indicate Pariah was there, let alone killed. Can anyone help?

[CBG]

He was killed in Villains United.

He's been brought back to life by one of the Monitors, in one of the Supergirl issues.

[TheCorpulent1]

You just can't keep a lavender-haired emo dude down.

[WompuM]

So they brought him back to kill him? God DC's plot points go nowhere most of the time. For instance, Bart and Boomer being brothers and yet never interacting before Bart died.

[TheCorpulent1]

The whole DC universe is pretty disorganized right now. Whoever established they were brothers probably intended to follow it up but got the rug pulled out from under them.

[CBG]

Not to mention that the neglected to resolve the issues that Jimmy must now know who Batman is.

I doubt anyone in DC remembers that, least the trainwreck that was Countdown.

[WompuM]

Yeah, they really shouldn't waste the time and money publishing trades for it.

[SonOfCthulhu]

I've got a question about Pariah.

I read Infinite Crisis a while ago (trade paperback edition) and recently was skimming some wikipedia. There, I read that Pariah was killed in the Infinite Crisis. I had no memory of this. A google search showed me that this apparently occurred in Infinite Crisis, Issue 2. However, leafing through my tpb, I couldn't find anything to indicate Pariah was there, let alone killed. Can anyone help?

Do you think there's some "Crisis" rule book at DC? Like maybe certain things have to happen in a story for it to be called a "Crisis"

1. Pariah has to die
2. A Superman Family hero has to die fighting the good fight
3. A Flash has to disappear into the speed force
4. ....

Can anyone help me out with the rest?

[Anubis]

Something has to f**k up the Multiverse.

[WompuM]

Red skies.

[Anubis]

Dead Z listers.

[Green Lantern]

Do you think there's some "Crisis" rule book at DC? Like maybe certain things have to happen in a story for it to be called a "Crisis"

1. Pariah has to die
2. A Superman Family hero has to die fighting the good fight
3. A Flash has to disappear into the speed force
4. ....

Can anyone help me out with the rest?Only one of those three happened in the second major Crisis... Zero Hour: A Crisis In Time. Wally disappeared, but he came back.

[SonOfCthulhu]

Only one of those three happened in the second major Crisis... Zero Hour: A Crisis In Time. Wally disappeared, but he came back.

That wasn't a real Crisis! It was more like a Crisis's annoying kid sidekick. :yay:

[WompuM]

Mmm... More like a Crisis's Sci-Fi channel cheap knock-off.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I doubt anyone in DC remembers that, least the trainwreck that was Countdown.

Point taken.

[DawnWarrior]

Do you think there's some "Crisis" rule book at DC? Like maybe certain things have to happen in a story for it to be called a "Crisis"

1. Pariah has to die
2. A Superman Family hero has to die fighting the good fight
3. A Flash has to disappear into the speed force
4. ....

Can anyone help me out with the rest?
All the super-villains band together to declare war on the heroes.

[WompuM]

George Perez?

[WompuM]

Ok I have been doing Flash research all day and have come up with the idea that Bart Allen is inbred. Let's start at the beginning.

Barry Allen is born, and unknowingly at the same time, his twin brother Malcolm, aka Cobalt Blue, is also born. Now Malcolm is adopted by the Thawnes and becomes a Thawne.

Then it is reveiled that Zoom, Eobard Thawne is a descendent of Malcolm Thawne.

And Bart is the son of Melani Thawne and Don Allen. Don is the son of Barry Allen and Iris West (who were living in the 30th century). Melani Thawne is the descendent of Eobard Thawne, whom if you remember is a descendent of Malcolm Thawne, Barry's twin brother.

Paternal
Barry
|
|
|
Don+Melanie
|
Bart

Maternal
Malcolm
|
Eobard
|
Melani+Don
|
Bart

Since Barry and Malcolm are brothers, and Malcolm is truly an Allen not a Thawne, then the Thawne/Allen fued has truly always been a civil war in the Allen family. This means Bart's great uncle Malcolm (on his paternal side) and great^10 uncle Malcolm (on his maternal side) are the same guy. And Capt. Boomerang Jr. is the great^10 nepher of Barry Allen. Confusin eh?

Did I get all this right?
And also, why was Wally in the future during Zero Hour?

[The Eagle Host]

I'm so turned on right now.

[DawnWarrior]

Whatever happened to Gateway City, Wonder Woman's old stomping ground?

[TheCorpulent1]

Ok I have been doing Flash research all day and have come up with the idea that Bart Allen is inbred. Let's start at the beginning.

Barry Allen is born, and unknowingly at the same time, his twin brother Malcolm, aka Cobalt Blue, is also born. Now Malcolm is adopted by the Thawnes and becomes a Thawne.

Then it is reveiled that Zoom, Eobard Thawne is a descendent of Malcolm Thawne.

And Bart is the son of Melani Thawne and Don Allen. Don is the son of Barry Allen and Iris West (who were living in the 30th century). Melani Thawne is the descendent of Eobard Thawne, whom if you remember is a descendent of Malcolm Thawne, Barry's twin brother.

Paternal
Barry
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Don+Melanie
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Bart

Maternal
Malcolm
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Eobard
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Melani+Don
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Bart

Since Barry and Malcolm are brothers, and Malcolm is truly an Allen not a Thawne, then the Thawne/Allen fued has truly always been a civil war in the Allen family. This means Bart's great uncle Malcolm (on his paternal side) and great^10 uncle Malcolm (on his maternal side) are the same guy. And Capt. Boomerang Jr. is the great^10 nepher of Barry Allen. Confusin eh?

Did I get all this right?
And also, why was Wally in the future during Zero Hour?
I think the Thawne bloodline had diverged enough by Melanie's time that it can't really be considered inbreeding.

[WompuM]

Yeah, but still. Kinda raunch. Especially with the time traveling.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, that's how superhero breeding goes. Don't knock it 'til you've time-traveled to sire your own inbreeding future-kids. :o

[anrrd_2]

Well, that's how superhero breeding goes. Don't knock it 'til you've time-traveled to sire your own inbreeding future-kids. :o

been there, done that....its over rated.:cwink:

[Lobo]

Well, that's how superhero breeding goes. Don't knock it 'til you've time-traveled to sire your own inbreeding future-kids. :o

This reminds me of when Fry traveled back in time to become his own Grandfather :o

[The Eagle Host]

Back to the Future could have been a very different movie.

[Fenryr]

Has anyone ever attempted to give Barbara Gordon the use of her legs back? With all the technology and magic and everything else in the DCU, surely someone could, or is she kept in the chair out of respect for Alan Moore?

[Anubis]

It's been tried a few times. Recently Braniac took over her body and she's now got some feeling in her legs again and can kinda walk a little, but she wont be running across rooftops anymore.

[Lobo]

Has anyone ever attempted to give Barbara Gordon the use of her legs back? With all the technology and magic and everything else in the DCU, surely someone could, or is she kept in the chair out of respect for Alan Moore?

The latter.

[moraldeficiency]

she's like daredevil in that her disability is now part of her character, I doubt she'll ever permenantly get use of her legs back. Maybe for a while, but then she'll be traumatized again by the joker or something.

[Fenryr]

And here I was, hoping for some Batgirl vs. Batgirl fights.

[Anubis]

Not necessary, she'd get her ass handed to her.

[Fenryr]

I can't be the only person who wants to see Cassandra get her ass kicked by the original.

[CLARKY]

has the picture (done by E.Van Sciver) "the day evil won" been explained ?
BTW I thought there was a thread about Green Arrow and Black Canary, where the hell is it ? :huh:

[Anubis]

I can't be the only person who wants to see Cassandra get her ass kicked by the original.


The only way that would happen is if she kicks her ass while she's asleep. Cass could kick Batman's ass. She's beaten Lady Shiva. Barbara wouldn't stand a chance. Working legs or not.

[Varient]

I can't be the only person who wants to see Cassandra get her ass kicked by the original.

unless cassandra is seriously handicapped first,... it will never happen - even with a fully healed Bab's.

Now,... Cyborg her a bit,.. speed up her reaction time and retrain her to a black canary level fighting style,...

then we can talk.

[CBG]

I can't be the only person who wants to see Cassandra get her ass kicked by the original.

Barbara could only beat Cassandra if Cassandra had her complete guard down and a huge time window for Barbara to take opportunity.

If the simulated fights proven, Cassandra would defeat Barbara easily, in mere seconds.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ooh, ooh, let me try...

Okay, Barbara could only beat Cassandra if Cassandra had her arms and legs eaten by sharks first, and even then her bleeding torso would still give Babs a run for her money! Eh? Eh? :D

[moraldeficiency]

Oracle would kick her ass in an endurance dance competition.

[Manic]

Barbara could only beat Cassandra if Cassandra had a bad case of narcolepsy, food poisoning, and temporary paralysis in her limbs. Just to be safe, Barbara might still have to use Spoiler as a human shield.

[Fenryr]

Now,... Cyborg her a bit,.. speed up her reaction time and retrain her to a black canary level fighting style,...

That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Not going overboard and turning her into a cyborg, per se. But she should definitely be going through some kind of physical therapy. Even if she doesn't don the cowl again, there doesn't seem to be a solid reason to keep her in the chair.

[Silicon Surfer]

If you want Cassandra beaten by the original Batgirl, it would be Betty Kane. Barbara was the second.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Not going overboard and turning her into a cyborg, per se. But she should definitely be going through some kind of physical therapy. Even if she doesn't don the cowl again, there doesn't seem to be a solid reason to keep her in the chair.
I like the fact that she's handicapped and still kicks ass in a different way. I've never understood Batgirl fanboys who want Babs to put back on the suit. She's a better character as Oracle.

[Manic]

If you want Cassandra beaten by the original Batgirl, it would be Betty Kane. Barbara was the second.
Bette can't beat obscurity, let alone Cassandra. Besides, isn't she only Flamebird in post-Crisis DC?

[BrianWilly]

I like the fact that she's handicapped and still kicks ass in a different way. I've never understood Batgirl fanboys who want Babs to put back on the suit. She's a better character as Oracle.Fanses are weird, and love the regressions; forget Peter and MJ, people still whine that Clark and Lois should be separated, and **** like that.

Still, I do understand the complaint that, in a world like the DCU, it's a bit weird for a person like Babs to be 100%, nuh uh, no way, absolutely not ever able to recover from a spinal injury. Which is basically her lot, minor improvements notwithstanding.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense that Zatanna can't just go "Pu dnats Arabrab!" and fix her. But I still like her as the handicapped whirlwind of badassery that is Oracle.

[Franklin Richards]

When The Enchantress offered to repair Dr. Doom's face, he said that he knew the hidden "price" for such an act.

Maybe Zatanna isn't willing to put Barbara in the same position. Maybe she'd owe a favor to some demon or angel somewhere if she did.


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, they probably would throw some arbitrary price in there. That's generally not much of an issue for Zatanna, though. She rewrote people's memories and personalities and the only price was guilt, and she's rebuilt cities and stuff for less.

[Varient]

Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense that Zatanna can't just go "Pu dnats Arabrab!" and fix her. But I still like her as the handicapped whirlwind of badassery that is Oracle.

Well,... if you go by the "Brand New Age O' Magic" That DC has been smacking us between the eyes with,... If Zat cures Barbara the equiv will happen to an innocent elsewhere.
(Sources: The JSA oneshot with Thunderbolt, The Short run Shazam Lotto, The Black Adam Booty Quest,...And of course the wildly enjoyed Wax-on/Wax-off/Evilon/Eviloff Mary Marvel.)

So Barbara gets a magic heal,... someone somewhere else loses the ability to walk.


V.

[TheCorpulent1]

So? That other person probably wasn't even using their ability to walk in the first place. :o

[Manic]

What if it's the Flash?

[TheCorpulent1]

The Flash was still able to run with both his legs broken, so he'll be fine.

[Manic]

For real? Damn, that's an amazing power.

[Silicon Surfer]

If someone else loses their ability to walk, that's fine. They just have to make sure that the other person is the Joker. The Joker would probably appreciate the humor.

[Manic]

Come to think of it, couldn't Zatana run around casting spells to cripple criminals, giving tons of crippled people around the world the ability to walk?

[WompuM]

Didnt gordon blow out joker's kneecaps after no man's land? how'd he get better?

[TheCorpulent1]

For real? Damn, that's an amazing power.
He made a suit out of pure Speed Force energy to support himself.
Come to think of it, couldn't Zatana run around casting spells to cripple criminals, giving tons of crippled people around the world the ability to walk?
Genius. Someone needs to write that story, like, yesterday.

[WompuM]

That's like some scewed version of Pushing Daisies. You know, a talented writer could write such a story and then find a way out of it, returning everything to the sitcom-like status quo. It's a shame really. OWuld love an Oracle/Zatanna crossover.

[CLARKY]

has the picture (done by E.Van Sciver) "the day evil won" been explained ?
BTW I thought there was a thread about Green Arrow and Black Canary, where the hell is it ? :huh:

[TheCorpulent1]

has the picture (done by E.Van Sciver) "the day evil won" been explained ?
Yeah, Darkseid essentially beats everyone and wins early on in Final Crisis. I think around #3, but that's just a guess based on what I've read in interviews and such.

[shapeshifter]

so what is jason todd doing now? did he retire to florida or what?

[TheCorpulent1]

He had one of Countdown's infamous character circles (as opposed to arcs) and is now back to being the most obnoxious anti-hero on New Earth. May we never see his useless ass again. The end.

[shapeshifter]

ah greeeeeeaaaaaat. thanks corp.

[Varient]

He had one of Countdown's infamous character circles (as opposed to arcs) and is now back to being the most obnoxious anti-hero on New Earth. May we never see his useless ass again. The end.

LOL
Even brought back from the Dead,.. Jason gets no love,...

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, he was the resurrection that no one demanded. People hated him enough to vote to kill him in the '80s and they still hate him now. I wish DC would put up another poll...

[WompuM]

I didn't mind him when he was actually developing in Countdown. The idea of him meeting an alternate batman that actually went crazy from his death was interesting. And I wasnt even opposed to the Red Robin idea. But now he is one step away from Octo-Todd

[shapeshifter]

the red robin thing fit. It seemed like a decent evolution of the character. if the earth 51 batman had not died he should have just stayed there. he would have been happier.

[TheCorpulent1]

Stranding him on another Earth would definitely have been nice.

[WompuM]

and not even a permant stranding. have him come back in Final Crisis as a legitimate character. have earth-51 destroyed. gives him the loss that drives batman and the epic scope of loss that drives superman, and an acutal interesting story.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or just have him die when Earth-51 is destroyed. That would work.

[WompuM]

I feel like the idea of Jason Todd has potential. A rogue Bat-family member. That's a great concept. He kills but has bat-diplomatic immunity. A good relationship with Tim and Dick. A connection with the Joker. There is potential there.

[TheCorpulent1]

Why would he have any sort of immunity, though? Batman kicked Huntress off the Justice League for attempting to kill someone. If he condones Jason killing people, he's a flat-out hypocrite. And why the hell would Tim or Dick give a rat's ass about Jason when he's tried to kill both of them? All the potential associated with Jason Todd is bad. He needs to be back in the ground yesterday.

[CBG]

Why would he have any sort of immunity, though? Batman kicked Huntress off the Justice League for attempting to kill someone. If he condones Jason killing people, he's a flat-out hypocrite. And why the hell would Tim or Dick give a rat's ass about Jason when he's tried to kill both of them? All the potential associated with Jason Todd is bad. He needs to be back in the ground yesterday.

There's also Cassandra when she went 'bad'.

[Harlekin]

Throw the Todd onto the Suicide Squad.

[TheCorpulent1]

Okay, now that could work.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

There's also Cassandra when she went 'bad'.

Yeah but she was drugged.

[TheCorpulent1]

And after the drugs wore off, she tried to kill Slade. Still counts.

[CBG]

Yeah but she was drugged.

You kind of figure, if a former Batman sidekick goes over the line, Batman would be the first to go after him/her.

But no, all he does is call Cassandra "disturbed".

Damn Beechen.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

And after the drugs wore off, she tried to kill Slade. Still counts.

Not the way I see it.

Even Batman has come close to killing the Joker and Alex Luther.

Trying to kill Slade after the Drugs wore off may have been a bit rouge but understandable considering the events that proceeded it.

And who's to say that the Drugs were completely out of her system???

Even an overdose of your most slandered recreational drugs can stay in your system and effect your judgment for up to 2 weeks after a person has taken them.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

You kind of figure, if a former Batman sidekick goes over the line, Batman would be the first to go after him/her.

But no, all he does is call Cassandra "disturbed".

Damn Beechen.

Thats because Batman only likes "Boys" for his sidekicks.:whatever:

[CLARKY]

Yeah, Darkseid essentially beats everyone and wins early on in Final Crisis. I think around #3, but that's just a guess based on what I've read in interviews and such.
Your answer looks like a "no". I was expecting something more specific. :huh: Has Dan Didio explained the picture ? That was my question. And if yes, where ?

[yenaled]

Let's say no.

[TheCorpulent1]

Not the way I see it.

Even Batman has come close to killing the Joker and Alex Luther.

Trying to kill Slade after the Drugs wore off may have been a bit rouge but understandable considering the events that proceeded it.

And who's to say that the Drugs were completely out of her system???

Even an overdose of your most slandered recreational drugs can stay in your system and effect your judgment for up to 2 weeks after a person has taken them.
Fair point. But the solicitations for her upcoming mini-series make it sound like she's still hunting down Slade for vengeance. Whether that means she'll try to kill him again is something we'll have to wait and see, but knowing Beechen, I wouldn't be surprised.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Fair point. But the solicitations for her upcoming mini-series make it sound like she's still hunting down Slade for vengeance. Whether that means she'll try to kill him again is something we'll have to wait and see, but knowing Beechen, I wouldn't be surprised.

True enough.

[WompuM]

Your answer looks like a "no". I was expecting something more specific. :huh: Has Dan Didio explained the picture ? That was my question. And if yes, where ?

If you were talking about all the villians on the statue of darksied's head, Didio has explained that. It pretty much went like this...

"Granny Goodness was Hippolita in Amazons Attack... it wasnt as good as we thought it was going to be.

Trickster was going to turn on Piper in Countdown... it didnt turn out as good as we hoped.

There were broken skiis because of the death of the new gods...which didnt turn out as good as we hoped."

[CBG]

Fair point. But the solicitations for her upcoming mini-series make it sound like she's still hunting down Slade for vengeance. Whether that means she'll try to kill him again is something we'll have to wait and see, but knowing Beechen, I wouldn't be surprised.

I imagine that other than trying to 'redeem himself', Beechen will try his damndest to justify his characterization of Cassandra Cain.

[TheCorpulent1]

Which is, of course, a folly. Just retcon it by revealing it was some ho posing as Cassandra.

[CLARKY]

If you were talking about all the villians on the statue of darksied's head, Didio has explained that. It pretty much went like this...
Yeah, 'cause I read the explanation of the first pic a while back, on newsrama, but I didn't see the second one. I'm not a very frequent newsrama user either.OK thanks.

[WompuM]

it should be in newsarama archives somewhere. wanst that great.

[moraldeficiency]

Hey - Im new to DC comics, have only collected one ongoing and that was Catwoman (for 2 years), apart from that I havent bought another DC title. Was looking for some big events to get into in trade paper - anyone got any suggestions? Thanks alot

Now there's a lot of Crisis' you could check out, though if you're new they'll just confuse and put you off to the characters. The one I would recommend is Identity Crisis which while having far reaching events is pretty self contained and you wouldn't need to be an encyclopedia of the DCU to understand. Along with that Justice is all in trade and that was pretty great. Kingdom Come is also very good but it might confuse the hell out of you until you read more DCU books.

World War Three is collected and that was one of the last "good" DC events, along with the Sinestro Corps War (though that kinda needed you to know more than you probably do at this point).

For an ongoing Trinity just started and it looks to be a rather good weekly with the core characters of the DCU so that would be a good book to jump on and get a taste of DC.

[moraldeficiency]

Cheers for the help, I'm gonna start with Identity Crisis I think as Ive heard the name mentioned before. It sounds right, as my knowledge of the DC universe is pretty much non existant. Hopefully I'll enjoy that and then look into the othe titles :) - thanks for the start.

No problem, I think you'll really enjoy it. The art is pretty stunning and there's some very good characterization and character development. If you have any particular characters you like I'm sure we could give you some more suggestions.

[WolfCypher]

Anyone know what "Reign in Hell" is about?

[TheCorpulent1]

Neron and, I think, Satanus are basically fighting for control of Hell.

[CBG]

Times like this, I wish Lucifer was back. . .

[WompuM]

It doesnt even take times like this for me to want Lucifer back. Hell, I just want Morpheus back.

[The Question]

Even though it would be horribly anti-climactic, I would find it hilarious if at the end of reign in hell, in the middle of a massive bloody battle with half of the mystical characters in the DCU, Lucifer just walks in, glares at everyone, says "children, please, play nice," and walks out, effectively ending the whole thing.

[The Question]

Wasn't it once revealed that the New Gods are in fact, on average, the size of citities, and the reason that they're human sized on Earth is because the Boom Tubes shrink them down to scale to allow them to interact with other species?

[CBG]

Yep.

[rzatherazor]

How does a Green Lantern's ring affect a "Yellow Lantern"?

[cerealkiller182]

it can kill them so im pretty sure they can do a number of other things.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it affects them the same way it affects anything else unless the Green Lantern can't overcome their own fear.

[primemover]

Has a super powered being every participated in the Olympics in the DC Universe, either incognito or with permission?

[CBG]

Superman in some super-Olympics in DC One Million.

[batnkevlar]

Has a super powered being every participated in the Olympics in the DC Universe, either incognito or with permission?

Cissie King, aka Arrowette, was in the Olympics for archery during Young Justice...

[WompuM]

She's not super-powered though I thought.

Somehow, I could see a great Bart Allen story of him participating in the Olympics and losing, a la Eric Cartman in the Special Olympics.

[Manic]

She's not super-powered though I thought.

Somehow, I could see a great Bart Allen story of him participating in the Olympics and losing, a la Eric Cartman in the Special Olympics.
That analogy doesn't make any sense. Eric Cartman participated in physical games for people with mental disabilities, and lost because he's horribly out of shape and assumed the other participants would be too stupid to know how to run in a straight line. Basically, he assumed that despite being a fatass, he could beat someone in a physical challenge because he's smarter. That'd be like Dr. Sivana participating in the Olympics and acting surprised when he lost.

[Spike_x1]

That analogy doesn't make any sense. Eric Cartman participated in physical games for people with mental disabilities, and lost because he's horribly out of shape and assumed the other participants would be too stupid to know how to run in a straight line. Basically, he assumed that despite being a fatass, he could beat someone in a physical challenge because he's smarter. That'd be like Dr. Sivana participating in the Olympics and acting surprised when he lost.I shall treasure this mental image always. :heart:

[WompuM]

That analogy doesn't make any sense. Eric Cartman participated in physical games for people with mental disabilities, and lost because he's horribly out of shape and assumed the other participants would be too stupid to know how to run in a straight line. Basically, he assumed that despite being a fatass, he could beat someone in a physical challenge because he's smarter. That'd be like Dr. Sivana participating in the Olympics and acting surprised when he lost.

Really? A whole paragraph because a South Park analogy didn't work?

[moraldeficiency]

Really? A whole paragraph because a South Park analogy didn't work?

Hey, there's real life important stuff and then there's important stuff on the internets.

[Phenomenal]

Did Superboy-Prime with the Sinsestro corps/GL ring make an appearence yet or do we still have to wait?

[BrianWilly]

He didn't ever get a Sinestro Ring.

[shapeshifter]

so is the kingdom come superman still with the JSA, or was that just a temp thing?
don't read JSa, just curious

[CBG]

Still with them.

According to KC Superman, Earth-22 was destroyed in the explosion.

[shapeshifter]

has the "regular" superman met him...self

[CBG]

Yeah. In JLA and in JSA.

[shapeshifter]

he must be getting really sick of that.

thanks

[primemover]

What is the most ubiquitous power in the DC Universe.

[BrianWilly]

Using a power ring, because there's 7200 Green Lanterns and now 7200 Sinestro Corps members and soon to be more. Seven Corps times 7200 is...50400 people with power rings.

On Earth alone, flight is probably the most common single power.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, everybody in the DC universe can fly. It's almost an afterthought at this point--when you get powers, you get x, y, and z... oh, and you get to fly, of course.

[batnkevlar]

You think that's bad... what about the LEGION?

"Kid, you can turn invisible? Here's a ring. Now you can turn invisible AND fly."

[Kitsune]

You think that's bad... what about the LEGION?

"Kid, you can turn invisible? Here's a ring. Now you can turn invisible AND fly."
My invisibility ring got stolen by this guy http://foreverloyal.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/gollum.jpg

[Lobo]

Whatever happened to The Guardian? Last I remember of him was he a baby being taken care of by Conner in Superboy comics.

[yenaled]

Grant Morrison made him awesome again in SSoV.

[Lobo]

Wasn't that the Manhattan Guardian? Does Jim harper have anything to do with that story?

[BrianWilly]

Nope.

[yenaled]

Jim Harper disappeared years ago. I think Waller was involved.

That was the end of him.

[warren_sparta27]

Haven't been keeping track with any comics lately cause i moved and there aren't any comic shops in the town i moved to.
I was just wondering what happened to Aqauman? i heard his own title was cancelled and wanted to know what he's up to at the moment, has he joined the JL or the outsiders?

Also, is Batwoman appearing in any titles at the moment? or has she been forgotten about?

[yenaled]

The original Aquaman (Orin) is currently dead.

The new Aquaman (AJ or Joseph as he is going by now) had his series cancelled, he was kind of meant to join Outsiders but there has been quiet a lot of creative changes on that book and he kind of just forgot to join.

So really DC have just put Aquaman into limbo till DC lets anyone try again - Azzarello has been pretty open about wanting to write an Aquaman series I'd be really happy if that happened.

Batwoman showed up in Rucka's the Question mini (Five Tales of Blood) - I never read it but BrianWilly suggests we all should.

She'll be showing up in Rucka's Final Crisis: Revelations mini and will be in Robinsons Justice League book later in the year.

[warren_sparta27]

So Batwoman is joining the justice league?

has Plastic Man been seen anywhere or has he just been forgotten like Aquaman?

[Anubis]

He's currently helping Green Arrow and Black Canary search for their son in Green Arrow/Black Canary.

[yenaled]

So Batwoman is joining the justice league?

Robinson's JUstice League is kind of a splinter group the to the JLA.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's basically another go at Batman and the Outsiders or Justice League Elite, only with Robinson's name providing the necessary boost for potential success that those other titles lacked. :o

[Anubis]

Anybody catch the first issue of his Superman run?

[yenaled]

I did yeah, it was odd really.

Some of the dialogue with Hal was just downright weird but the stuff with the Science Police was really cool.

[Anubis]

I thought it was okay, but Supes missing out on kicking giant monster ass to play with his Dog in space is kinda....weird.

[yenaled]

lol yeah it was. I did like Krypto's internal dialogue though.

[CBG]

Question: is the new Booster Gold series an on-going or a limited series?

[Manic]

On-going.

[Aristotle]

Has DC announced who's taking over The Spirit after the current team leaves?

[Hush]

lol yeah it was. I did like Krypto's internal dialogue though.

I loved that issue, thought it was really cool, that was a definite cover buy. lol

[Manic]

Has DC announced who's taking over The Spirit after the current team leaves?
Someone readable, I hope.

[Dr. Fate]

I'm behind on my Superman stories. What's Supes up to lately?

[anrrd_2]

I'm behind on my Superman stories. What's Supes up to lately?

he's in hell...a hooker made a crack about him being faster than a speeding bullet so he ripped her in half like a phonebook

[Aristotle]

Someone readable, I hope.If they haven't announced it, I've got some news...

[Aristotle]

he's in hell...a hooker made a crack about him being faster than a speeding bullet so he ripped her in half like a phonebookA phone book? Do a lot of people rip phone books in half? Couldn't you have made a more apt comparison?

[anrrd_2]

A phone book? Do a lot of people rip phone books in half? Couldn't you have made a more apt comparison?

its a "family guy" quote...

also....back in the day ripping a phonebook in half was considered a common way to show of physical strengh. but phonebooks were alot thinner then.

[Blacklight]

What has been going on with Kyle Rayner since the whole Ray Palmer Multiverse thing? Any news on him ditching those corny, Hal-ripped off white gloves?

[BrianWilly]

The horrterrible gloves are still there, but Kyle is fortunately costarring in the excellent Green Lantern Corps series, written by Peter Tomasi, alongside Guy Gardner as Honor Guard Lanterns.

[TheCorpulent1]

Kyle's new costume is really terrible. I mean, really, really bad. You can tell whoever came up with that piece of s*** was like, "I gotta design a whole new costume? F*** it, this dude's got, like, three GL costumes already. I'll just slap them b****es together and no one'll ever tell the difference." They should've just gone back to the costume Jim Lee designed. It fit Kyle perfectly and it blends in pretty well with the standard GL Corps uniform.

[Aristotle]

Kyle's new costume is really terrible. I mean, really, really bad. You can tell whoever came up with that piece of s*** was like, "I gotta design a whole new costume? F*** it, this dude's got, like, three GL costumes already. I'll just slap them b****es together and no one'll ever tell the difference." They should've just gone back to the costume Jim Lee designed. It fit Kyle perfectly and it blends in pretty well with the standard GL Corps uniform.Kyle's original costume for the win.