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Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 07:10 AM
What is it?
Mass Effect is an Xbox360 exclusive trilogy of sci-fi action RPGs from Bioware and Microsoft Game Studios.



Why should I be hyped for it?
Because it's being made by Bioware, who also made games like "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic", "Jade Empire", "Neverwinter Nights", and "Baldur's Gate", and is a guarenteed 9 or higher. If you like RPGs at all, or even just games, there's an excellent chance that these three games will be in your top ten for this generation.



Is it turn based, real time, or a KotOR-type mixture of both?
The game features a fully real time combat system, that even features your party members reacting in perfectly realistic ways, using squad-tactics and generally not just leaping around attacking what they can ala Jade Empire. With that said, this is an RPG, so you can expect character skill to have just as big an impact on your performance as your own skill, lending you various bonuses (more accurate with certain weapons, less recoil, more damage, etc) depending on how you build your character.



How will the game utilize the Xbox Live service?
Although Mass Effect is entirely a single player RPG (as in, no multiplayer deathmatch guys), the game will use every other aspect of Xbox Live, from the standard acheivements to planned content downloads that contain MUCH more actual content than most. The current plan is for each game to feature an Xbox-Live only "Mass Effect 1.5/2.5" between them to bridge events between the annual release of the three games, with full stories, new characters/voice acting, and basically more than just a few maps and a weapon or two which you've probably come to expect from other games.



What does the game look like?
Thanks to Bioware using a heavily customized version of the Unreal 3.0 engine, it looks like this...

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen001.jpg

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen005.jpg

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen007.jpg

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen011.jpg

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/930279_20060510_screen001.jpg

Notice how in that last picture you can actually pick out individual hairs on his head.



I don't believe that's real time!
Well then, feast your eyes on this (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=11790&type=mov&pl=game), the real time, in-game demo shown at the E3 '06 conference to a live audience which wowed all who saw it and led to Mass Effect receiving much praise afterwards. Please note that if you have Xbox Live and a 360, there is a 720p version of this video available there that will probably give you a more accurate representation of the visuals due to it being seen on the same TV that Mass Effect will be played on, rather than a monitor.



Well then how come that looks better than everything I have or ever WILL see on the PS3?
Couldn't tell you. Rumor has it that Microsoft stole some of the magic pixie dust that Sony used to make their magical hardware last gen to give it "hidden power" that Bioware has "unlocked". Didn't hear that from me though.



When can I play these classics?
Bioware staff have, on their forums, hinted at a March/April '07 release for the first game, though that may be pushed back to Summer or even Christmas '07. As far as I know, the plan is to release each game in the trilogy a year after the previous one, with the Xbox Live content will be released inbetween those dates. Bioware has stated that the series will span the entire life cycle of the 360.


Now, get hyped.



EDIT: The Mass Effect FAQ (http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=489430&forum=104)

Axid
08-10-2006, 08:45 AM
Awsome. Any news on what kind of custom head stuff you can do?

Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 08:48 AM
You can customize your character, but that's pretty much the only thing known. No idea if you can pick gender, or if the customization is done like KotOR, where you pick from several presets, or Oblivion, where you do everything your self, or some variation of the two. You're not stuck with the bald guy, that's just the one they're using to show the game, like when they used the Furious Ming character in all the Jade Empire shots.

Axid
08-10-2006, 08:51 AM
Or like when they show the picture of the guy who didn't get on DOA :o

Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 08:52 AM
You'll be able to adjust the appearance of your character, right down to facial shapes, skin tones, eye colors, and hair styles. And you'll determine your character class and set up your initial abilities. You can be a standard Soldier class, or an Adept (powerful with dark energy attacks), or an Engineer (able to do deadly tech-based attacks). And there will be other classes that combine the abilities of these three.

You'll also be able to do some things that take customization to a new level, like making choices about the kind of experiences you've had before the game started, like where you were born, and the kind of military service you've performed.

And over the course of the game, you'll continue to develop and improve your character – as well as each of the other characters in your squad – by adding new abilities, armor, and weapons that will make your experience in Mass Effect different from everyone else's.



Yup you can choose to play a female. I haven't had a chance to take a look at how much you can customize your character but I'm willing to bet that choosing gender is one of the first steps.

So yeah, you can customize.

Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 08:55 AM
Or like when they show the picture of the guy who didn't get on DOA :o
Oh yeah :(

Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 01:37 PM
Everyone stop invading the damn Sony forum and talk about how awesome this game is :(

블라스
08-10-2006, 02:26 PM
This is going to have ballistic weapons, yes?

Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 02:28 PM
Yes, but it's also going to have aliens and they will probably have weapons too, so yeah.

WhatsHisFace
08-10-2006, 02:30 PM
I can't handle the amazing graphics.

블라스
08-10-2006, 02:30 PM
I saw the gameplay video and loved it.
Plus, it's Bioware.
I just hope they make KOTOR3 and JE2 :(

WhatsHisFace
08-10-2006, 02:34 PM
JE2 should be outsourced to Day 1 so they can put in a great combat engine and a really crappy story.

KotOR should remain at Obsidian.

Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 02:34 PM
They're in preproduction for JE2 right now supposedly, as is Obsidian with KotORIII (Bioware only does their own IPs now, so they won't be doing another star wars game, but Obsidian has pretty much the same employees and talent, so it's ok), so no worries about that. Bioware is also doing an unnamed FPRPG for the 360 and an MMORPG for the PC, in case you were wondering. Also, if you liked KotOR, and it seems that you did, you'll be interested to know that the KotOR team is the one that's doing this one.

블라스
08-10-2006, 02:35 PM
Sweetah Bananaaa :up:

WhatsHisFace
08-10-2006, 03:02 PM
Is Dragon Age the crappy MMO? MMOs need to die already.

Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 03:06 PM
Dragon Age is the awesome single player RPG for the PC. The MMO is totally unknown aside from the fact that it's being made by the new Bioware Austin studio and that it's an MMO, and on the PC. The FPRPG is pretty much the same, save for it's being made by the original Canadian studio and is on 360. And the MMO won't be crappy, it's Bioware, they don't make crappy games.

Lactophiliac
08-10-2006, 03:08 PM
It they can get the combat in this game right there will be no stopping it. Bioware rocks and so will this game, the only question is how much.

Manny Calavera
08-10-2006, 03:32 PM
Biomechanical creatures like this are, as far as anyone outside of Bioware knows, the primary "enemy" in the game, and looming threat you hear about during the demo walkthrough video when the alien talks about the "machines" returning.

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen015.jpg



I like how even at this distance, you can see blades of grass.

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen008.jpg



As for the combat, I'm certain they're going to get it right. From what little I saw in the videos, the whole "squad tactics" deal seems to already be well along in development, which should make your party members FAR more valuable in a fight than they are in most other real time RPGs (Jade Empire, the few allies you get at certain times during Oblivion), and the player combat itself looks as well developed as any dedicated 3rd person shooters. I doubt anything will go wrong with the combat :up:

XwolverineX
08-10-2006, 06:31 PM
Goty '07.

The Last Meatbag
08-10-2006, 10:34 PM
These graphics are super incredible :O

Do you know if the combat system is going to be like KOTOR's where it's just choose what attack and hit A, or where you actually run up yourself and press the correct button to perform your attack combinations?

Manny Calavera
08-11-2006, 12:47 AM
These graphics are super incredible :O

Do you know if the combat system is going to be like KOTOR's where it's just choose what attack and hit A, or where you actually run up yourself and press the correct button to perform your attack combinations?
100% real time, with squad based tactics available for you to use in conjunction with your party members. It won't be a twitch shooter though, there's still a lot of consideration to give to skills and equipment, like any other good RPG.

WhatsHisFace
08-11-2006, 05:31 AM
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen015.jpg:up:
That is the best design I have ever seen.

Lactophiliac
08-11-2006, 01:35 PM
I’m excited about how the conversations in this game are going to play out. I’ve always hated that I have to pick less then ideal things to say to people in the games. I like to have a character that I sick to, but often times I’m forced into saying or doing things the character wouldn’t do, simply because I have no options that seem right. I hope this eliminates some of that, it’ll certainly make less frustrating for me.

Manny Calavera
08-11-2006, 03:34 PM
I haven't kept up with that, how's it different from KotOR?

Lactophiliac
08-15-2006, 07:28 PM
You don’t actually pick what you want to say; you just choose the emotion of what you want to say. If I remember correctly the D pad or one of the analog sticks (something at any rate) is mapped to different emotions or styles of response, I guess, like positive, hostel, negative, and such and you just press the way you’d like to respond. You can even select the way you’d like to respond while the character you are talking to is still talking, which should make it more dynamic.

Manny Calavera
08-15-2006, 07:31 PM
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen004.jpg

It's hard to imagine a better looking game.


Gamespot E3 Preview (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/news.html?sid=6150171&mode=previews)

IGN E3 Preview (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706601p1.html)

IGN E3 Preview, Part Two (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/707/707270p1.html)



Sounding very good, even this early in development.

Manny Calavera
08-15-2006, 07:33 PM
You don’t actually pick what you want to say; you just choose the emotion of what you want to say. If I remember correctly the D pad or one of the analog sticks (something at any rate) is mapped to different emotions or styles of response, I guess, like positive, hostel, negative, and such and you just press the way you’d like to respond. You can even select the way you’d like to respond while the character you are talking to is still talking, which should make it more dynamic.
That sounds great. I think I remember reading about "A Bard's Tale" having something like that, but I never played it so I don't know for sure.

GL1
08-16-2006, 01:19 PM
You don’t actually pick what you want to say; you just choose the emotion of what you want to say. If I remember correctly the D pad or one of the analog sticks (something at any rate) is mapped to different emotions or styles of response, I guess, like positive, hostel, negative, and such and you just press the way you’d like to respond. You can even select the way you’d like to respond while the character you are talking to is still talking, which should make it more dynamic.

Interrupting people would be fun... and cinematic. Also, not having to read the whole line could only speed up the process, I think that's darn near genious.

That said, the character customization sounds fun, I hope the firefights are fluid and action packed... too much duck and cover can get boring. I wonder if the relationships with your team change over the course of the game based on how you relate to them. Hmm...

Sounds like a winner to me...

Lactophiliac
08-16-2006, 01:24 PM
I wonder if the relationships with your team change over the course of the game based on how you relate to them. Hmm...
I believe IGN said that team members would actually leave your party if you keep doing things they don't agree with.

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 01:34 PM
Yes, your party member relationships will change a LOT, they're using a much deeper version of the influence system that Obsidian put into KotORII. I don't think all of them will leave your party, but certain party members will depending what type of person you are relative to them. Just depends on how important they are to the story.

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 01:45 PM
The Stuff In Zenien's Inferior Knock Off Thread
Go 1UP/Bioware. I can't wait for this game.

http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/kimpak/news/200608/16/media_01.jpg
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Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 01:45 PM
The Rest Of It
http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/kimpak/news/200608/16/media_08.jpg
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A couple more here and two new vids?? check it out
http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=9836

Speedball
08-16-2006, 03:07 PM
This game deserves two threads, more if possible.

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 03:09 PM
This is the only thread this game needs, it's beautifully crafted and perfect, please just us it :(

Speedball
08-16-2006, 03:12 PM
Anyway...
This game is absolutely gorgeous.
It's definantly a system seller.
This, Dead Rising, and Elder Scrolls are the three games that I MUST have when I get a 360, which should be pretty soon.

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 03:14 PM
This game is actually three games, Bioware is planning a trilogy to span the entire 360 life cycle, which makes it all the better. Bioware's also putting out a FPRPG and Jade Empire 2 sometime during all that, so yeah, the RPG scene on the xbox360 has gotten much better compared to the token showing the xbox had.

블라스
08-16-2006, 03:14 PM
Anyway...
This game is absolutely gorgeous.
It's definantly a system seller.
This, Dead Rising, and Elder Scrolls are the three games that I MUST have when I get a 360, which should be pretty soon.

Condemned and Hitman are great!

Speedball
08-16-2006, 03:17 PM
Condemned and Hitman are great!
*shrugs*
Not my type of games. I played Hitman 2, and thought it was ok. It's fun, but It just kind of bored me.

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 03:19 PM
So, would you guys prefer your character's stats to continue through each of the three games + DLC expansions, a restart, a totally new character each time, what?

블라스
08-16-2006, 03:23 PM
*shrugs*
Not my type of games. I played Hitman 2, and thought it was ok. It's fun, but It just kind of bored me.

Oh :(

블라스
08-16-2006, 03:24 PM
So, would you guys prefer your character's stats to continue through each of the three games + DLC expansions, a restart, a totally new character each time, what?

Hmm...good question.

Speedball
08-16-2006, 03:24 PM
It would be cool if your stats did continue, that's what KOTOR II was missing. I would have liked to have seen what happened to Revan.
Are we going to be able to create a character?

Lactophiliac
08-16-2006, 05:13 PM
So, would you guys prefer your character's stats to continue through each of the three games + DLC expansions, a restart, a totally new character each time, what?What I’d really like is for the world to carry over. Like for instance with the ending of Knights of the Old Republic either Revan is now some dark ruler of the universe or the savoir of the universe. I’d like the next game to reflect that directly, say if you load up an ending save from the evil ending the plot starts with a group of people trying to defeat Revan, and if you load up a save from the good ending you’re trying to stop the sith from taking over the universe (or course you could choose to help either side) I dunno maybe that would be to complicated but I think it would be cool. And maybe it’s something to do with DLC or something.

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 05:36 PM
Listen to an interview with Mass Effect Project Director Casey Hudson in a podcast hosted by Official XBox Magazine. The Mass Effect part begins at the 20:24 mark. (http://go.bioware.com/?linkgo=1&linkID=3003)

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 07:02 PM
The Original X05 Teaser Trailer (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/viewer.aspx?productId=1382&assetTypeId=2&shotId=0). It still looks better than most games out there, but you can really see the graphical improvements Bioware was able to make in less than a full year, watch this and then watch the E3 walkthrough, huge difference. I can only imagine the kind of quality we can expect from the final release.

Speedball
08-16-2006, 07:07 PM
What I’d really like is for the world to carry over. Like for instance with the ending of Knights of the Old Republic either Revan is now some dark ruler of the universe or the savoir of the universe. I’d like the next game to reflect that directly, say if you load up an ending save from the evil ending the plot starts with a group of people trying to defeat Revan, and if you load up a save from the good ending you’re trying to stop the sith from taking over the universe (or course you could choose to help either side) I dunno maybe that would be to complicated but I think it would be cool. And maybe it’s something to do with DLC or something.
It would be complicated because you would have 3 different games in you hand. One with Revan as a Sith, one as a Jedi, and another for new players who have never played KOTOR.
but...
It's possible to do.

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 07:19 PM
I'd rather just smaller things carry over. A huge "three games in one" thing would cause each story to suffer, the games to be shorter, and would take forever to make, and really, if it works like Jade Empire and KotOR did, the conclusions of each will be the same for the universe, the only thing it will effect will be your character and your party members. If I'm going to be Shephard in each game, I'd like an option for my experience and equipment to carry over into each game and have the game's difficulty adjust depending on whether or not I do that. However, what I'd most prefer is a new character with each game. To me, that's the easiest solution on the developers, and that's the solution that gives the player the most freedom in each game to make their character and what makes the games easiest to just 'pick up' for newer players.

Lactophiliac
08-16-2006, 07:33 PM
But by the end of the game I'd imagine your character is going to be something of a major character, so if you are playing the same guy in the second game I'd like to at the very least see characters react accordingly. Perhaps you'll have a reputation, which is something they can ignore for new characters and just give them a basic middleground rep until they start to do stuff. Like if you played the big ass kicker in the first game, when you walk into the bar some people with recognize you and know some ass kicking is going down.

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 10:02 PM
One quest that has to be in this game is a chance to go down to some crappy, primitive planet and convince the cavemen there that you're a god with all your technology and stuff, there's no way Bioware would leave something this obvious out :o

Manny Calavera
08-16-2006, 11:57 PM
For anyone who missed it, here (http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3144257&type=game&sec=VIDEOS) is the 1UP mass effect footage.

Lactophiliac
08-17-2006, 12:04 AM
One quest that has to be in this game is a chance to go down to some crappy, primitive planet and convince the cavemen there that you're a god with all your technology and stuff, there's no way Bioware would leave something this obvious out :oAnother quest I’d like to see, getting captured by a “superior” alien race and being forced to fight other aliens for their amusement. Then you can escape or convice all the other aliens to rebel or whatever, there would obviously be different ways to beat the quest.

Manny Calavera
08-17-2006, 12:33 AM
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2989769&type=lg

http://www.1up.com/media?id=2989770&type=lg

I really wish this were a Christmas '06 game :(

Lactophiliac
08-17-2006, 10:18 PM
I really wish this were a Christmas '06 game :(When is it set to come out?

Fenrir
08-17-2006, 10:44 PM
Is there any word on how many DVDs exactly is this going to ship on? I know all Oblivion took was a single double layer DVD (and even that wasn't close to being completely filled up) but this game looks so much more massive. Watching the increasingly dense intergalactic navigation in the trailer was overwhelming to say the least. :up:

Speedball
08-17-2006, 11:45 PM
on IGN it says:
US: TBA 2006
Europe: January 12, 2007.

1up: 03/15/2007

and on Gamestop: Q2 2007.

It looks like no one has a clue

Manny Calavera
08-18-2006, 12:14 AM
When is it set to come out?
People on the Bioware boards have told me Aprilish 07 due to a few dev posts that I've never seen, and I've heard other dates, so I don't really know. Anywhere from April to August 2007 seems likely.

Is there any word on how many DVDs exactly is this going to ship on? I know all Oblivion took was a single double layer DVD (and even that wasn't close to being completely filled up) but this game looks so much more massive. Watching the increasingly dense intergalactic navigation in the trailer was overwhelming to say the least. :up:
Just one DVD, for each of the three games, with each of the inbetween DLC expansions probably being pretty huge, a gig or more.

블라스
08-18-2006, 12:16 AM
Hodges, I haven't listened to your msg :(

Manny Calavera
08-18-2006, 12:19 AM
It's just me telling you that we don't play any of the same games on live so we'll have to wait for gears or something, using my sexy and awe inspiring voice.

Speedball
08-18-2006, 12:19 AM
Hodges, I haven't listened to your msg :(
?
I didn't send you a msg?(;) to Manny)

블라스
08-18-2006, 12:20 AM
It's just me telling you that we don't play any of the same games on live so we'll have to wait for gears or something, using my sexy and awe inspiring voice.

Gears it is!

블라스
08-18-2006, 12:20 AM
?
I didn't send you a msg?(;) to Manny)

http://blogs.indiewire.com/reverseshot/archives/confused.jpg

Fenrir
08-18-2006, 12:22 AM
Just one DVD, for each of the three games, with each of the inbetween DLC expansions probably being pretty huge, a gig or more.

Nice. But doesn't that equate HD-DVD and Blu-Ray to being a premature financial waste considering such massive storage capacities won't be utilized at all, especially if games as seemingly massive as Mass Effect can fit on a single DVD? Why even bother with next-gen formats? :confused:

Speedball
08-18-2006, 12:22 AM
http://blogs.indiewire.com/reverseshot/archives/confused.jpg
We have the same last name.
We discussed it in another thread.(the Stickied Xbox Live name one)

Manny Calavera
08-18-2006, 12:26 AM
Nice. But doesn't that equate HD-DVD and Blu-Ray to being a premature financial waste considering such massive storage capacities won't be utilized at all, especially if games as seemingly massive as Mass Effect can fit on a single DVD? Why even bother with next-gen formats? :confused:
Sony is using the PS3 as a trojan horse for Blu-Ray. You see, sometime soon, studios are going to decide whether they support HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. And sony's thinking is, when they do that, they're going to look at the number of HD-DVD players sold, and they're going to look at the number of Blu-Ray players sold and PS3's sold, and they believe that this number will be much greater and will help Blu-Ray to win the format war, getting Sony a ton of money. The Blu-Ray offers no REAL advantage or solves any REAL problems with next gen game development, it's not really there to benefit games at all, it's there to help Sony's other divisions. People telling you that the Blu-Ray is some giant advantage that the PS3 has over all other gaming platforms are putting a little too much faith into Sony's PR.

블라스
08-18-2006, 12:27 AM
We have the same last name.
We discussed it in another thread.(the Stickied Xbox Live name one)

Oooooooooh! :O :up:

Substance D
08-18-2006, 11:08 AM
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2989769&type=lg

http://www.1up.com/media?id=2989770&type=lg

I really wish this were a Christmas '06 game :(

bioware has some of the most talented and creative artists working in the biz. i love how everything looks grounded in reality and functional, yet far out and unique at the same time.

Manny Calavera
08-18-2006, 07:36 PM
Bioware has some of the most talented anythings in the biz. Their name alone guarantees this will at least be a 9/10 game or higher.

XwolverineX
08-18-2006, 10:08 PM
Bioware has some of the most talented anythings in the biz. Their name alone guarantees this will at least be a 9/10 game or higher.

I don't care what it scores, it'll prolly be my favorite game of all-time. Kotor is close, and I hate turn-based. Bioware = As close to perfection as it get's. :up:

GL1
08-20-2006, 11:47 AM
Hmmm... is it three part members or four... I seem to remember four from before, but lately I've been hearing three...

As much as I think I'm going to love this game, it still irks me to have nine party members and field 3... especially when I have to switch them out midfield with little explanation or animation as to where the one went or where the new one is coming from...

Manny Calavera
08-20-2006, 03:43 PM
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/130/930279_20060511_screen002.jpg

That earlier screenshot shows two party members and Shephard, just as you had two party members and Revan/Exile in the KotOR games.

블라스
08-20-2006, 03:56 PM
Yeah, this game looks fantastic.

Manny Calavera
08-20-2006, 04:01 PM
I agree. Use your martial arts skills on anyone who doesn't :o

블라스
08-20-2006, 04:02 PM
I can't, it goes against everything Hapkido stands for :(

But I will spit on people who don't agree :up:

Mentok
08-20-2006, 04:29 PM
I agree. Use your martial arts skills on anyone who doesn't :o

I just cant get excited for this game :(

Manny Calavera
08-20-2006, 04:36 PM
Spit on Mentok :mad:

Mentok
08-20-2006, 04:38 PM
He cant... He loves me :(

블라스
08-20-2006, 04:38 PM
Mentok is special :(

Manny Calavera
08-20-2006, 04:41 PM
Mentok, please be excited for this game, it's better than anything you'll ever play/have played, it's from Bioware, it looks stunning, has an awesome soundtrack, is very immersive, great story, cool setting, what more do you want? :(

WhatsHisFace
08-21-2006, 11:29 AM
Mentok likes good things, but hates the BEST things. Like Batman Begins.

Manny Calavera
08-21-2006, 04:46 PM
Mentok why do you hate the best RPG ever made in Mass Effect? :(

WhatsHisFace
08-22-2006, 08:49 AM
I guess it's just too hot for him to handle.

WhatsHisFace
08-22-2006, 08:51 AM
I guess it's just too hot for him to handle.

Manny Calavera
08-22-2006, 09:33 PM
So, what does everyone think, will this game be better than every game that's ever been on a Sony console, or just all the ones that will be on ps3? :o

Speedball
08-22-2006, 09:37 PM
So, what does everyone think, will this game be better than every game that's ever been on a Sony console, or just all the ones that will be on ps3? :o
This game will be better than any game on any console. It's gonna, literally, make every other game look like work done by amatuers.

Manny Calavera
08-22-2006, 09:47 PM
I agree. The book of revelations was writen in anticipation of this game's release.

Manny Calavera
08-24-2006, 02:41 AM
There's actually a chance that this could make Christmas '06, awesome :up::confused:

Fenrir
08-24-2006, 03:35 AM
There's actually a chance that this could make Christmas '06, awesome :up::confused:

*Goes to bet on Mass Effect for 2006 Game of the Year*

Addendum
08-24-2006, 03:44 AM
I'll consider it, though I'm slowly getting bored with RPGs

WhatsHisFace
08-24-2006, 08:27 AM
You probably play FF a lot, that's why.

Manny Calavera
08-24-2006, 08:37 AM
I dont know how you've gotten bored of RPGs, it's the best genre of all time :(

WhatsHisFace
08-24-2006, 08:41 AM
Sometimes action-packed action games surpass even the best RPGs.

Manny Calavera
08-24-2006, 08:47 AM
That has never happened :dry:

WhatsHisFace
08-24-2006, 08:49 AM
I thought Max Payne was better than KotOR, actually.

And I think Riddick is pretty much insurmountable.

Manny Calavera
08-24-2006, 08:50 AM
Nothing is better than KotOR, but of all the games, Max Payne? :(

WhatsHisFace
08-24-2006, 08:53 AM
Max Payne was amazing.

Manny Calavera
08-24-2006, 08:56 AM
Does someone wanna make a Mass Effect avatar that doesn't suck because of the tiny 50x50 limit I have? :confused:

WhatsHisFace
08-24-2006, 09:01 AM
I was just thinking, if Mass Effect turns out horrible, we can call it "Ass Defect". Wahahahah loloololololololollololol

Manny Calavera
08-24-2006, 09:01 AM
:dry:

WhatsHisFace
08-24-2006, 09:21 AM
Well, it's a big "if". But isn't it funny?

Bioware probably named their kids "Marty" (Farty) and other easily make-funable names. Walalalal!

Manny Calavera
08-24-2006, 09:22 AM
Bioware is making Mass Effect. References to it being bad are incomprehensible :(

WhatsHisFace
08-24-2006, 09:27 AM
What are some other makefunable names?

Matty (Fatty) I guess. Pat (Fat) too.

Addendum
08-24-2006, 01:53 PM
You probably play FF a lot, that's why.
The only FF I've played and beaten was the first FF. I've tried FF2 which is also on FF Origins and I've not touched it in 3 years. The other FF's are gathering dust in my closet.

Mentok
09-03-2006, 02:48 AM
I apologise for ever saying this game was nothing special. I just watched all the footage for it that has been released.


:eek:

Im sorry.

This looks better than OBLIVION.

WhatsHisFace
09-03-2006, 10:14 AM
What changed your mind?

XwolverineX
09-03-2006, 12:18 PM
This actually looks better then any game ever made.

Mentok
09-04-2006, 01:43 AM
What changed your mind?

I guess I just dismissed it because I didnt like the KotoR games. I saw one of the first videos and some screens and nothing really interested me. I hit Youtube the other day and checked out all the footage and read a few developer interviews... It looks awesome.

Mentok
09-04-2006, 01:43 AM
This actually looks better then any game ever made.

Oblivion in space = Awesome.

XwolverineX
09-04-2006, 09:49 AM
Oblivion in space = Awesome.

Kotor > Oblivion
Mass Effect > Kotor

Mentok
09-04-2006, 09:58 AM
OBLIVION > KotoR :cmad:

Axid
09-04-2006, 10:24 AM
I thought it was for the first 2 weeks, but after that.....:down :(

Shodan
09-04-2006, 06:12 PM
Yeah, KotOR > Oblivion. I've went back to Oblivion and found that it's actually pretty good if I'm not going in expecting it to at least be as good as Morrowind. But as far as length (this is actual CONTENT, as in quests, not just wandering around doing nothing for the sake of making the game seem longer), story, soundtrack, and all the other stuff that makes a good RPG good, KotOR stomps it. Morrowind and KotOR could go toe to toe...but not this. They dropped the ball with this :(

Anyways, despite being wrong about KotOR's superiority compared to Oblivion, I'm glad that you finally came around Mentok, you'd missing out on one of the biggest reasons to own a 360 if you didn't play these.

WhatsHisFace
09-05-2006, 11:20 PM
Stop getting banned.

Mentok
09-06-2006, 12:47 AM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/730/730609p1.html

Its official. Release is set for Q1 2007 up:

XwolverineX
09-06-2006, 07:15 AM
Goodies.

WhatsHisFace
09-06-2006, 01:37 PM
Well the 360's just getting one hit after another starting next month.

Finally! :D Oblivion and the Rare games can't hold me forever. (I need Condemned)

Addendum
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
Starts saving up for a 360...

AgentDenton
09-07-2006, 08:34 PM
If this gets a Feb 2007 release, I hope they speed up their release schedule (so long as they don't sacrifice quality of course) and get Mass Effect 2 out by Christmas 2007, and the final game in the trilogy by the Summer. I don't want an annual release schedule, that's too long to wait considering the first two games will probably end in cliff hangers :(

WhatsHisFace
09-07-2006, 11:26 PM
I don't know if it was Silicon Knights or Bioware speaking on their trilogy, but one of them DEFINITELY does not have any cliffhanger endings.

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 02:05 PM
Hopefully it's Mass Effect. Too Human's story is based on pre-existing Norse stuff, I could find it's ending if I looked really hard. Mass Effect would just be unfinished for several months.

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 03:28 PM
But Mass Effect will have episodic content (even if it's just a mission somewhere) to keep players going.

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 03:31 PM
Yeah, but that's released between the games, so it's still a wait. And the episodic content isn't just a mission somewhere, they're supposed to be entirely new "main quest" sized things. They're going to bridge the story between the three games, which is an awesome idea I think. Hopefully they aren't much more expensive than most PC expansions, I don't really wanna spend upwards of $20 on something like that, even though I would if they charged it.

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 03:33 PM
I think they'll end up being shorter than that. Bioware just might let you down if their episodic content isn't huge. :(

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 03:34 PM
Bioware never lets people down. The company is run by Jesus :dry:

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 03:52 PM
I sometimes wish Jesus would make a game engine. We'd never need another console.

But anyways, Bioware let me down with Jade Empire. So...

But Mass Effect is already too awesome to believe. One of the many reasons the 360 is the best next-gen console.

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 03:53 PM
Bioware didn't let you down with Jade Empire, you just suck. What kind of complaint is "it has a lot in common with KotOR, a game that is universally regarded as Christ"? :(

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 03:55 PM
Because they might as well have just made KotOR 2. They made a new IP, Jade Empire, to do something new, but ended up making it exactly the same, minus real-time fighting, which was horrifically done.

I mean, it was a good game, but I was expecting the next Shenmue, not the next KotOR.

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 03:58 PM
The fighting wasn't horrifically done, the focus was just on switching styles rather than long combo's within each style. And why would you expect the game to be the next Shenmue? Because they were both "asian"? :confused:

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 04:02 PM
No, because the announcement video basically made it look that way. The eventual story had nothing to do with revenge, or even Furious Ming's ability to crack rocks.

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 04:04 PM
The eventual story had everything to do with revenge, did you even play the game? And the announcement video didn't look anything like Shenmue, the only thing in common was that they both had a dojo in some capacity. Jade Empire didn't fail you, you failed Jade Empire :(

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 04:12 PM
No, Jade Empire promised an interesting main character wi... *breaks into tears* I just wanted Shenmue 3, okay? I was young and hopeful *sniffle* I didn't mean to make Jade Empire a rebound game *snort* things just went so fast and *gulp* one thing lead to another! *runs of screaming*

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 04:13 PM
Jade Empire was fantastic (and has a sequel in the works, go to Bioware's website and under games there is "unannounced next gen game" that is 100% likely to be it, rejoice Gamera!), and Mass Effect will be the rapture. All is well.

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 04:17 PM
Okay, hopefully Bioware learns stuff from Pandemic, like how to make an open world and how to make a fighting engine, so that I can enjoy the game instead of walking down paths.

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 04:19 PM
Bioware.....learn something.....from Pandemic? Get out :dry:

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 04:22 PM
They said they've learned lots from each other. Pandemic's learning story delivery and character development, while Bioware's learning about how to make larger worlds and pick-up-and-play game mechanics.

AgentDenton
09-08-2006, 04:24 PM
Oh wait, Pandemic merged with them or something didn't they? Oh, nevermind. But Pandemic learns from Bioware, not the other way around. Bioware has nothing left to learn :dry:

WhatsHisFace
09-08-2006, 04:25 PM
You N'Wah. Just look how great Mass Effect is! Yes, I know they were well into it before the merge, but I bet the sequels are better. And JE2 will probably be better too.

AgentDenton
09-09-2006, 05:21 PM
All the Mass Effect games are going to be instantly perfect, and yet still improve with each release :confused:

WhatsHisFace
09-09-2006, 05:23 PM
I bet Mass Effect 1 will have some kind of stupid little problem that isn't fixed until three, like weapon selection irritations or something.

AgentDenton
09-09-2006, 05:26 PM
I can't wait to see more of this at X06, they need to do another huge gameplay walkthrough video like they did at E3, or better yet, give us a "first hour of the game" demo to hold me over until Febuary.

WhatsHisFace
09-09-2006, 05:29 PM
I'd love to play this game. I really wish this made 2006, but oh well. I have Gears of War, SplinterCell, Superman Returns, and other games, which hopefully include Too Human, to hold me over.

My most wanted game is Superman though, so all else will fall into place after that happens.

AgentDenton
09-09-2006, 05:30 PM
Gears of War, Splinter Cell, Too Human....and you're most wanted is Superman? :(

But yeah, I wish this had made 2006 as well. I shouldn't have been so optimistic, I knew that developers never make release dates anymore :(

WhatsHisFace
09-09-2006, 05:35 PM
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/supermanreview.jpg

I'm sorry, but Superman just does so much for me, and it's a freeroaming game where you can be Superman!

Gears of War and Too Human are about tied. SplinterCell will be good but it's not going to be Gears of War exciting!

XwolverineX
09-09-2006, 06:12 PM
Haha, SR should be called S642.

AgentDenton
09-09-2006, 06:19 PM
Yeah, anyways, moving away from all the retard in that post...

In response to a query by 1UP.com, Project Manager Casey Hudson explained the term 'Mass Effect' as follows:

"Inside the game universe, mass effect is a newly-discovered (for humans anyway) physics phenomenon that has properties along the lines of other physics forces such as gravity and electromagnetism. It's what physicists in real life are currently calling "dark energy," as an explanation for the accelerating expansion of the universe -- which has only recently been discovered and flies in the face of the previous notion that the universe's expansion should be slowing down because of gravity."[2]

Thus, mass effect is possibly akin to the theorized fifth force.

In the same article, Hudson explains that certain beings are able to sense and manipulate mass effect much like some real-life creatures (such as sharks and eels) can sense and manipulate electromagnatism. These abilities will be augmentable via implants, and the manipulation of mass effect is referred to as 'Biotics'.
I'm glad to have seen that, I always wondered what the game's title was for :confused:

WhatsHisFace
09-09-2006, 06:50 PM
In real life medicine, "Mass Effect" is when flesh is displaced by an object, like water bloating or a brain tumor. Because of this, I thought the game's title was suggesting a story about brain implants or just anything cybernetic, considering the game's style.

But it may be both. I mean, there IS a doctor working at Bioware.

AgentDenton
09-09-2006, 06:54 PM
So which shooting method would you prefer in this game
A more RPG style (like Deus Ex), where how accurate you are/can be and how damage you can cause is directly tied into your equipment and character skills.

Or a more FPS style (like Halo), where how accurate you are depends much more on player skill rather than character skill, and the damage is flat and not effected by character development.


I personally hope they go with the first model, RPGs are about character development/character skills, but it's an action RPG so I know the second model could make it in as well. I'm sure there are those who would prefer stuff like that, but I hate seeing it, it's just another way RPGs are getting watered down for the Madden crowd.

WhatsHisFace
09-09-2006, 06:57 PM
I would also prefer the first option.

I believe SplinterCell, Rainbox Six, and Ghost Recon have shown developers that the Deus Ex method can work in an action game, and to a great effect.

It would not only give the game more depth, but it would also make each players experience different, which is what Bioware usually tries to aim for anyways, so it makes sense.

I'll be happy either way, but I believe the Deus Ex way works better.

Mankar Camoran
09-10-2006, 05:13 PM
I just hope that with all these "action RPGs" (Jade Empire 2, Mass Effect 1-3, Unannounced FPRPG) that Bioware ports over Dragon Age or something as well. Action RPGs are great games, but I still prefer the real thing.

Zenien
09-10-2006, 05:18 PM
I would prefer the first option, I want the satisfaction of levelling my characters properly and using the right strategy to take down a rancor, not just using my fast trigger finger to break the game, which is what I think can easilly happen when you swing an "action RPG" too far to the action sie of things.

WhatsHisFace
09-10-2006, 10:12 PM
Don't reference StarWars. :(

BanjoKazooie
09-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Star Wars is great, just accept it.

DACMAN
09-13-2006, 02:42 AM
Graphics look amazing. Type of gameplay "meh".

XwolverineX
09-13-2006, 07:51 AM
Graphics look amazing. Type of gameplay "meh".

You = Moron

WhatsHisFace
09-13-2006, 10:43 AM
You = Moron
DACMAN > Adolf Hitler > You. DACMAN actually has fantastic taste in games, he'll see something he likes about this game before long.

DACMAN, I know this is a Bioware RPG, but this time the gameplay is actually smooth. It looks to play a lot like SplinterCell, only with more weapons and of course, the conversation system.

Don't write it off just yet. X06 is only two weeks away! :woot:

BanjoKazooie
09-13-2006, 11:14 AM
While I find it hard to consider people who don't praise all Bioware games to be human beings, he has shown good taste in the past, so I won't try to find his home address and mail bomb it.

WhatsHisFace
09-13-2006, 11:23 AM
When there are more than two videos for this game, one showing more than three seconds of shooting, more interest will ensue.

BanjoKazooie
09-13-2006, 11:33 AM
I think it's kind of sad that "more shooting" needs to be shown to get interest for this game. I'm frankly kind of tired of games where all I do is shoot stuff, there are hundreds upon hundreds of them out there, we don't need anymore, and we certainly don't need any more people who play them exclusively. I really hope Bioware remembers what made them their money and what put them on the map to begin with, and doesn't start watering down it's game for the twitch crowd.

WhatsHisFace
09-13-2006, 11:35 AM
But other than that we've only seen the conversation system, and if this game turns out 90% conversations, like Jade Empire, it will generate less interest than if it had some good action.

BanjoKazooie
09-13-2006, 11:41 AM
Jade Empire wasn't 90% conversations, what are you talking about? It was the most 'action' oriented game Bioware had done up to that point, and probably the first game where action outweighed story and characters. It's like people think that's the only type of video game that should ever be made, it's ridiculous, and it's not just a 'difference of opinion' either, it's almost immature. I've watched people playing Splinter Cell and get frustrated that they can't run and gun through the levels, and say "oh man, what a ****ty game, hahaha" and go jack off to some ****ty WW2 shooter that's been made 20 times before. People scream and cry for something new and fresh and innovative, and Viva comes along....and what, no guns or blood or M rating? Pffft, pass. I've watched people see Spore, get disappointed that it's not about controlling a predator and killing things, and just say "oh man this game is trash lolololololol!" It's pretty easy to see where the news media get's it's gamer stereotypes. I mean, my god, what is wrong with you people, it's like you only want one game, just released over and over and over and over and over again. Oh look, first/third person sci fi war shooter #4091321292301 just came out, let's go check it out man, we can take it back to the frat house to play! Goddamnit, stop killing the games industry :(.....

WhatsHisFace
09-13-2006, 11:45 AM
Conversations are to Jade Empire as Barrels are to NeverWinter Nights. There're just too many of them. I'm not saying they're bad in and of themselves, it's just that they can be overused.

BanjoKazooie
09-13-2006, 11:46 AM
You really don't need to be playing RPGs, seriously. If you thought Jade Empire of all games had too many conversations, then the genre is not for you :dry:

WhatsHisFace
09-13-2006, 11:51 AM
When I need to hear a 20 minute conversation just to ask someone for spicey tea, it's an issue. I don't mind long conversations if they have meaning, but junk like "outsmarting" the people in the garden, and stuff like that... it's all very poor.

BanjoKazooie
09-13-2006, 11:54 AM
The debate with the Knight was actually one of the most beloved segments of the game, and in addition to that was totally unnecessary. The conversation could have ended at any time the player choose, as was the case was 90% of the conversations in that game. In addition to that, 90% of the conversations were entirely voluntary. Don't want to talk to Black Whirlwind? Then don't. Don't want to converse with Dawn Star? No one makes you. There was nothing "poor" about it. If all you want is action, play another genre, RPGs are not for you. There's more to the genre than just tapping a and x fast. Saying there are too many conversations in Jade Empire is like saying there's too much saving in Oblivion. Faulting a game for a totally voluntary action is dumb, especially when the only reason to initiate those conversations is if you're interested in story in the first place.

WhatsHisFace
09-13-2006, 11:57 AM
You can stop with this Snooty Frenchman stuff whenever you like. I know what you're saying, I'm just telling you that if all Bioware shows of Mass Effect is it's conversations, not as many people are going to give a damn as when they actually see what PLAYING the game is like.

BanjoKazooie
09-13-2006, 12:05 PM
If they show people playing the game, they aren't going to care, they're going to say the same **** they say about every other good game that comes out, more action, more explosions, multiplayer, turn it into an MMO, head shots, and all the other stupid suggestions they have. I'm not being "a snooty frenchman", whatever that is, I'm just pissed off that most of my fellow xbox gamers seem to be content with the same damn thing over and over. I mean, my god, I can't be the only person that is ****ing sick of first and third person shooters, or ****ing sick of boring generic "murderthon 3000: the sequel" m-rated games getting hyped up or everyone playing the 15th iteration of "Storm Normandy" on the 231st WWII game.

Playing the game IS the conversations, it's gaining and spending experience and building your character and party, and following the story. That's what an RPG is, it's not shooting stuff, it's all that "boring" fluff that some of you seem to hate so much. If shooting things is all you want to see, or all you want to do in the game, then for God's sake don't waste your time with it, go buy Gears of War or one of the three shooters that are released on any given month. There's no reason for RPGs to continue to be dumbed down and turned into "action-adventure games with RPG elements".

WhatsHisFace
09-13-2006, 12:15 PM
I agree with you on most of your points, which are all very good.

Mass Effect is first and foremost an RPG, and that's why I want it. But they're not showing much of the world, they're showing a bar conversation and the different paths it can lead to. It's interesting, sure, but that's the kind of stuff I want to experience in the game myself, not have the gameplay demo quota filled up with something that doesn't show much of the world.

Seeing action gameplay shows off much more about the game. Animations, how menus work, etc. Much more interesting and much more informative. I already know how conversations work, I just want to see what the game is like because I'm interested in it.

BanjoKazooie
09-13-2006, 07:04 PM
Meh :confused:

WhatsHisFace
09-14-2006, 12:33 PM
Teh geh.

블라스
09-14-2006, 12:50 PM
Wait, Jade Empire is fantastic in every sense of the word :confused:

WhatsHisFace
09-14-2006, 01:00 PM
Wait, Jade Empire is fantastic in every sense of the word :confused:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/The_ORLY_Owl/villianowl.jpg

블라스
09-14-2006, 01:02 PM
Hopefully I haven't, you rock :O :up:

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 02:45 PM
DACMAN > Adolf Hitler > You. DACMAN actually has fantastic taste in games, he'll see something he likes about this game before long.

DACMAN, I know this is a Bioware RPG, but this time the gameplay is actually smooth. It looks to play a lot like SplinterCell, only with more weapons and of course, the conversation system.

Don't write it off just yet. X06 is only two weeks away! :woot:
Thanks WHF. The only RPG I've ever loved has been Fable. Not much for'em. But, what's that?... Splinter Cell you say? I'll give it another look.:woot:

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 02:46 PM
You = Moron
What're like 12?

WhatsHisFace
09-14-2006, 02:56 PM
DACMAN, you're a married man now, right? What's that like?

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 03:07 PM
Great! I love my woman so much. We were high school sweet hearts. She's not much of a gamer, but she'll play the Sonic Plus Mega Super collection or whatever it's called. She also loves HULK ultimate destruction. We have a house, we bought it about 4 or 5 months before we were married. We fixed it up and she moved in. Then after the wedding I moved it. I used to work at an armored car company for about 2 years but got layed off ( it's all good though they gave my a big severence pay and a letter of recemendation...I think I spelled that wrong, whatever ). I'm now working for a company that makes solar pannels. Great issurance, decent pay. But anyway she's my best friend, everythings great. We pray together, and read God's word together. I love it. It'll be a year this October. She's just about done with school. She'll have a 2 year degree in buisness management.

What about you? How you doin?

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 03:08 PM
Here, let me find a picture of us. I think there's one of the internet somewhere.

블라스
09-14-2006, 03:17 PM
Sorry for butting in, but she sounds like an awesome person, you big True Crime lover :up:

THWIP*
09-14-2006, 03:26 PM
Here, let me find a picture of us. I think there's one of the internet somewhere.


I MAY HAVE SEEN YOU GUYS AT SWINGERS.COM. :wow: :oldrazz:

Mentok
09-14-2006, 03:29 PM
We need new pictures for the GoW thread :cmad:

THWIP*
09-14-2006, 03:42 PM
We need new pictures for the GoW thread :cmad:


SOON.........TGS AND X06 ARE BOTH LATE SEPTEMBER, SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS SHOULD BE INSANE. :word:

WhatsHisFace
09-14-2006, 04:51 PM
I'm so happy to hear that DACMAN, you know I'm always wishing you the best.

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 07:58 PM
Sorry for butting in, but she sounds like an awesome person, you big True Crime lover :up:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I SAID TRUE CRIME WAS GOOD! IT WAS OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woot:






It's not even in my top 100 best games ever.

Call me Halo lover, HULK UD lover, Far Cry lover, Doom lover, Fable lover, or even Clancy lover, but I sold my True Crime years ago and thought it was decent. I've never even played the new one.



I'm never going to hear the end of this am I?

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 08:00 PM
I'm so happy to hear that DACMAN, you know I'm always wishing you the best.Thanks buddy. The pictures I was going to get have been pulled of the internet. They were at my churches offical site and I have no idea how to upload pictures. I'll ask my wife if she knows how when she gets back from class tonight. So how've you been?

Conker
09-14-2006, 09:31 PM
it's like Splinter Cell
No, it's not, it is absolutely nothing like Splinter Cell, it has zero in common with Splinter Cell, nothing, nadda. If you're not interested in this game just from Bioware putting their name on it, then you probably need to just go ahead and pass. If it takes "it's like Splinter Cell, head shots and light meters!", a blatant lie, to get you interested, you need to pass. It's not going to be anything like Splinter Cell, or Halo, or Gears of War or anything like that. It's an RPG, not an action game, not a FPS, an RPG.

XwolverineX
09-14-2006, 09:37 PM
DACMAN > Adolf Hitler > You. DACMAN actually has fantastic taste in games, he'll see something he likes about this game before long.

DACMAN, I know this is a Bioware RPG, but this time the gameplay is actually smooth. It looks to play a lot like SplinterCell, only with more weapons and of course, the conversation system.

Don't write it off just yet. X06 is only two weeks away! :woot:


Lemme guess, he has good taste because like you, he's too poor to afford more then one console, so he bashed MGS in favor of SC. :huh:

블라스
09-14-2006, 09:43 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SAID TRUE CRIME WAS GOOD! IT WAS OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woot:
It's not even in my top 100 best games ever.
Call me Halo lover, HULK UD lover, Far Cry lover, Doom lover, Fable lover, or even Clancy lover, but I sold my True Crime years ago and thought it was decent. I've never even played the new one.
I'm never going to hear the end of this am I?

I don't know why I always think of you when I hear about True Crime :(
But yeah, Hulk:UD lover will do, since that game KICKS ASS :ninja:

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 11:37 PM
Lemme guess, he has good taste because like you, he's too poor to afford more then one console, so he bashed MGS in favor of SC. :huh:
I'm sure I make more in a month than you make in a year.

And it's called having a life and not buying every fricken game and system out there but the select few great games. Xbox has always been the better system. They also have more of the games I like. Why do you always get so offensive? Are you feeling all right?

Conker
09-14-2006, 11:38 PM
He's like 12 or 13 I think, so he actually doesn't make anything in a year:dry:

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 11:44 PM
Well, then I'm sure I make more just thinking about work then he's made his entire life. :D

DACMAN
09-14-2006, 11:45 PM
Love your name BTW.

WhatsHisFace
09-15-2006, 12:29 AM
If he knew how much money I have, he'd explode. :dry:

WhatsHisFace
09-15-2006, 12:30 AM
If he knew how much money I have, he'd explode. :dry:

Conker
09-15-2006, 04:03 AM
Who would? And what does your money have to do with anything? :confused:

WhatsHisFace
09-15-2006, 11:39 AM
Because he's an idiot and thinks the reason MGS sucks is because I "can't afford a PS3" when in reality I could buy a new car if I wanted to, cash.

Conker
09-15-2006, 09:46 PM
You can buy a new car cash, and I ride a transit bus and can't get my damn financial aid checks....**** you WHF, **** you :(

Addendum
09-15-2006, 11:19 PM
I'm sure I make more in a month than you make in a year.

And it's called having a life and not buying every fricken game and system out there but the select few great games. Xbox has always been the better system. They also have more of the games I like. Why do you always get so offensive? Are you feeling all right?
I've found video games to be more interesting than people

Conker
09-15-2006, 11:20 PM
The AI in doom 1 is smarter than most of the people I know :(

CM Punk
09-27-2006, 06:17 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_012.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_015-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_052.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_040.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_039.jpg[/QUOTE]

Is there any level of ownage that X06 won't reach?

블라스
09-27-2006, 06:28 PM
Holy **** :eek:

WhatsHisFace
09-27-2006, 10:17 PM
Like, I understand why Sony doesn't make games like this, but what I don't understand is why they HAVE TO SUCK SO MUCH.

DACMAN
09-27-2006, 10:29 PM
HA! Hello new quote.

WhatsHisFace
09-27-2006, 10:39 PM
I'm honored. :D

Fenrir
09-28-2006, 12:28 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_012.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_015-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_052.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_040.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ApeX56592/X06Batch01_039.jpg
Is there any level of ownage that X06 won't reach?

This game makes me cry with it's awesomeness...:(:up:

WhatsHisFace
09-28-2006, 01:15 PM
Mass Effect is going to rule.

XwolverineX
09-28-2006, 09:03 PM
Yeah, how come so many games on 360 are going to rule? It's definately the best system ever, without a doubt.

WhatsHisFace
09-28-2006, 09:09 PM
I thought the Xbox 1 was a darn good system, because it really was, but the 360's already taking it over.

XwolverineX
09-28-2006, 09:13 PM
I liked Xbox alot aswell, probably equal to PS2, and far above GC. Riddick, Kotor, Fable, Halo, Jade Empire, Ninja Gaiden, DOA3, and the fact the all Multi-plats were best on 360 = Awesome system.


And yep, 360 is even better. Fable 2, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Halo 3, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Gears of War, Lost Planet, BIOSHOCK = Homg, wow.

CM Punk
09-29-2006, 05:02 PM
IGN talking about Mass Effect being the best game of all time (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/736/736346p1.html).

블라스
09-29-2006, 05:05 PM
This game will heal the sick.

WhatsHisFace
09-29-2006, 05:48 PM
But will it forgive us of sin?

블라스
09-29-2006, 05:49 PM
Maybe not, that's God's job.
But God will be playing this, I'm sure.
So in a way? Yeah.

Mr. Vice
09-29-2006, 07:06 PM
Maybe not, that's God's job.
But God will be playing this, I'm sure.
So in a way? Yeah.

Another reason for me to buy this game.:woot: :csad:

CM Punk
09-30-2006, 10:28 PM
http://masseffect.bioware.com

The new site has lots of new info, and story tidbits. The game's release is coming soon, Jan-Feb at the latest.

WhatsHisFace
09-30-2006, 11:47 PM
Maybe not, that's God's job.
But God will be playing this, I'm sure.
So in a way? Yeah.
Well if God's playing it, I want to play it too. Maybe I'll get an invite. :woot:

xwolverine2
10-02-2006, 01:55 PM
this game makes me horny:eek:!!!!!

Substance D
10-02-2006, 02:00 PM
the geth? bioware couldn't have come up with a better name?

xwolverine2
10-02-2006, 02:05 PM
the geth?
what are u talking about?

Substance D
10-02-2006, 02:06 PM
what are u talking about?

isn't that what they're calling the race of machines that's out to harvest the universe? pretty unimposing.

xwolverine2
10-02-2006, 02:13 PM
how do they look like?..have pics of them been released?

Substance D
10-02-2006, 02:23 PM
http://masseffect.bioware.com/galacticcodex/geth.html

thank god, i was wrong. they're just bad guys, but not the main bad guys. i shouldn't have doubted bioware, the people who brought us such badassly named foes as sarevok, darth malak and irenicus.

xwolverine2
10-02-2006, 02:44 PM
dont look much like robots...... but still awesome

WhatsHisFace
10-02-2006, 02:47 PM
Are those the awesome looking things? The white musculoskeletal beings with cameras attached to their heads?

I love those things. Absolutely amazing art direction.

블라스
10-02-2006, 02:49 PM
Sci-Fi at its best, no doubt.

Substance D
10-02-2006, 02:51 PM
Are those the awesome looking things? The white musculoskeletal beings with cameras attached to their heads?

I love those things. Absolutely amazing art direction.


well they started out as machines and evolved into semi organic beings.

yeah, bioware has always had awesome art direction. i've always liked how their characters look like real people, and not steroid injected musclemen. i just read on their website that they hire 2d artists if you're good enough and then they'll train you for 3d. i think i'm going to start working on my portfolio, it's about time i got off my ass and did something...

WhatsHisFace
10-02-2006, 03:40 PM
well they started out as machines and evolved into semi organic beings.

yeah, bioware has always had awesome art direction. i've always liked how their characters look like real people, and not steroid injected musclemen. i just read on their website that they hire 2d artists if you're good enough and then they'll train you for 3d. i think i'm going to start working on my portfolio, it's about time i got off my ass and did something...
Damn, I'm sending an application!

GL1
10-04-2006, 03:38 PM
I think this game is going to buy me, instead of the other way around.

WhatsHisFace
10-04-2006, 03:51 PM
This game is going to buy freedom for all the slaves on this earth.

Fenrir
10-04-2006, 04:00 PM
BIOSHOCK IS RAPTURE, MASS EFFECT IS PARADISE.

THE PROMISE OF THE LORD FULFILLED. :up:

xwolverine2
10-04-2006, 06:01 PM
^
mass effect = jebus:eek:

GL1
10-05-2006, 12:13 PM
Is anyone else on their forums? They've got some crazy discussions going on over there... blowing up stars and stuff... but the Company stickied it... looks like we might not have those 50 planets for the whole game :)

WhatsHisFace
10-05-2006, 12:16 PM
You just hexed Mass Effect. Now God is going to make it stink, or Bioware will be struck by so much lightning it will burn.

WhatsHisFace
10-05-2006, 10:11 PM
http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/1325/full-res/1160089987.jpg
http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/1325/full-res/1160089856.jpg
http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/1325/full-res/1160089735.jpg
http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/1325/full-res/1160089734.jpg

Master Chief
10-06-2006, 12:18 AM
Gawd I can't wait, this will consume more of my time than Oblivion did. :(

Substance D
10-06-2006, 12:45 AM
pretty amazing looking. that chick in the white is giving me an erection. can't wait to unequip all her armor.

WhatsHisFace
10-06-2006, 03:57 AM
LOL Darth_Coolius used to do that in KotOR.

GuntherHermann
10-06-2006, 04:20 AM
Bastilla loves me :O

Anyways, newer shots...

http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4372/904_0001.jpg

http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4372/904_0004.jpg

WhatsHisFace
10-06-2006, 04:29 AM
Ew, do those red things walk around?

GuntherHermann
10-06-2006, 04:30 AM
The squids? I would assume so, unless they float, which would be cool...

WhatsHisFace
10-06-2006, 04:31 AM
I will be ethnically cleansing Mass Effect of those little creeps.

GuntherHermann
10-06-2006, 04:35 AM
You probably get a chance to ethnically cleanse at least one planet, which is another reason this game is amazing.

WhatsHisFace
10-06-2006, 04:38 AM
It's too bad I won't get a chance to "cleanse" Carth Onasi in this game.

GuntherHermann
10-06-2006, 04:39 AM
If you were a female you got that chance in KotOR, so meh.

WhatsHisFace
10-06-2006, 04:39 AM
The problem with playing KotOR as a female is that you have to be a woman.

GuntherHermann
10-06-2006, 04:44 AM
At least you get to kill Carth. And you aren't allowed to vote on any of the planets.

WhatsHisFace
10-06-2006, 04:46 AM
Thank goodness. Otherwise I'd probably elect some jackass electorate just because of his "personality" which couldn't be caught on TV anyways.

Tetragrammaton
11-16-2006, 10:54 AM
http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/?source=TLD_games.mtv.com

WhatsHisFace
11-16-2006, 12:33 PM
Most ads ever.

Fenrir
11-16-2006, 01:36 PM
http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/?source=TLD_games.mtv.com

Holy crap...:eek: :eek: :eek:

Just watched the exclusive footage and I can't believe my eyes. I know Bioware is making Mass Effect as an RPG but the action (especially the dunebuggy sequences) are better than most other action games. :ninja:

Folks, wait till everything on that page loads, then click on the Mass Effect flash tab in the middle right. It will take you to the Mass Effect page - from there, go to downloads and download the HD version of the exclusive MTV footage. Oh and make sure there's something soft sitting on the table or the floor to break the fall of your jaw as it drops with superspeed velocity after viewing the footage.

:up: :up: :up:

WhatsHisFace
11-16-2006, 01:45 PM
:eek:!!!

Tetragrammaton
11-16-2006, 02:05 PM
:wow: