The Viva Pinata Hype Thread (that's right, ANOTHER)

[Manny Calavera]

What is it?
A new 'sim' game for the xbox360 that Microsoft is already banking on to become the "next big thing".



Why should I be hyped?
Scroll down and look at those screenshots. Go out and buy Kameo or PDZ for your 360. Look at those screenshots again. Then go play Animal Crossing, and imagine that with a cooler visual flair. That's why.



How do I play it?
Before I begin, I'd like to say that I recognize how bad this genre sounds on paper, but really, you just need to play it to fully understand it. Basically, you play as...no one. You have no "character", you're simply an unseen hand moving about. If you've played Animal Crossing, you'll have a good idea of what to expect, but basically, you're goal is to build your garden to attract new pinata's and to satisfy the ever changing needs of the ones already there, all the while coming up with clever ways to keep the bad pinata's out and unwilling to come back. It could be called a "sandbox" game ala Dead Rising or Oblivion, you simply have far more control over your sandbox here.



How does this game use Xbox Live?
In addition to the usual acheivements and content download (new skins, new garden buildings/tools, new types of pinata's for you to collect/ward off, etc), the game allows people to "observe" your garden from Xbox Live, to "see what you've done with the place". However, as far as anyone outside of Rare knows, that's all they can do, look (and maybe talk if you let them), they can't touch or assist/hinder you in any way. Viva Pinata is strictly a single player only game.



What does the game look like?
Oh, ****ing fantastic, it's easily the best looking game out there. Not on 360, out there period. It has an amazing looking art style that really just makes the whole thing scream 'unique', from the grass thats made to look like paper-mache to simple things like the "hey, it's not photorealistic" color scheme, refreshing for a 360 title. Here, let me show you.

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_14hi.jpg

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_08hi.jpg

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_12hi.jpg

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_18hi.jpg

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_17hi.jpg

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_04hi.jpg



That's unbelievably pretty, no way it's real
It's Real (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=10694&type=mov&pl=game)



This looks kiddy
I guess you think it's childish to have fun? **** off and die of aids :down



I heard this was a crappy cash in on a TV show, any truth to that?
Not unless you're a total idiot. Here's the chain of events:
1) Rare comes up with, designs Viva Pinata, then shows it to Microsoft.
2) Microsoft sees a potential fad, contacts 4Kids entertainment, people responsible for turning pokemon and I think maybe yu gi oh into cults.
3) TV shows and t-shirts are put into products based on the GAME, not the other way around.



When's it come out?
Officially still slated for Christmas season '06, expect to see this delayed until sometime in the Summer of 2007.

[WhatsHisFace]

I think this game is going to be great for what it's meant to do, but still, I fear I won't really "get it". I understand how it's supposed to be played, but... I don't get it.

[Manny Calavera]

Trust me, you'll like it. I've never seen a person give Animal Crossing an honest chance (ie not go in with a slew of "omg this is kiddie I'm 2 kool for dis yo!" crap) and not enjoy it, and this is Animal Crossing x100000. It's going to be a great game, you'll see.

[WhatsHisFace]

I just want my Banjo Kazooie 3. :(

[Manny Calavera]

They're making it, don't worry. They hinted at it in Ghoulies and maybe Conker as well, not sure, and the series was pretty popular AND in a genre that 360 is sorely lacking in and will continue to be lacking in for the foreseeable future, so yeah, it's coming. Don't hate Rare's other games in it's absense :(

[Horrorfan]

Subtitle should be : ''Yes, Microsoft spent money on THIS.''


Should have brought out Take 2/ Rockstar, Billy boy.

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah, Microsoft should have funded another generic looking peice of **** shooter, right? Or maybe another generic looking peice of **** racer? The game is going to be fun. The game is also beautiful, and is by far the best looking game on the system. What else do you need? Oh....I think I know. You need blood and hookers and an M rating to enjoy games, right? "Oh, can't be seen playing anything that someone might say is kiddie, it might hurt my rep yo!"

Tasteless asshat, be gone.

[Horrorfan]

Hey why don't you put on a lil skirt and make up while you are at it, lady boy? :o

[블라스]

So is this like the Sims?

[Manny Calavera]

What? I enjoy having fun more than just playing boring ass generic and derivative crap that others approve as "cool" and "mature" (because playing games for the sole purpose of seeing pixel tits and digital blood is the very definition of the word "mature"), and thus I...wear a "lil skirt"...put on make up...and am a "lady boy"? I'm not really sure which of your various mental short comings I should pin that logical abomination on :confused:

[Horrorfan]

I'm sorry, I don't see how making lil cartoon animals, and feeding them and trying to get them mate is ''FUN'' in any way, shape or form.

If anything it shows me that Rare have pretty much always been overrated (play goldeneye again and see how generic it was).

[Manny Calavera]

So is this like the Sims?
In the sense that you play a "God" and control EVERYTHING and not just one character, yes, but it's still more like Animal crossing, in that your focus is on the environment the characters live in, improving it to keep them happy/to attract more of them, rather than on the characters themselves and making them happy by making them adapt to wherever they are. It's technically the same genre, yes, but they have a different focus. I actually think you might like it if you try it out, THWIP would probably have fun playing it with his wife if he tried it. Everyone just needs to get over the fact that there aren't explosions and guns in the game.

[Horrorfan]

What? I enjoy having fun more than just playing boring ass generic and derivative crap that others approve as "cool" and "mature" (because playing games for the sole purpose of seeing pixel tits and digital blood is the very definition of the word "mature"), and thus I...wear a "lil skirt"...put on make up...and am a "lady boy"? I'm not really sure which of your various mental short comings I should pin that logical abomination on :confused:

Don't be ashamed of being a fairy queen :(

[Horrorfan]

In the sense that you play a "God" and control EVERYTHING and not just one character, yes, but it's still more like Animal crossing, in that your focus is on the environment the characters live in, improving it to keep them happy/to attract more of them, rather than on the characters themselves and making them happy by making them adapt to wherever they are. It's technically the same genre, yes, but they have a different focus. I actually think you might like it if you try it out, THWIP would probably have fun playing it with his wife if he tried it. Everyone just needs to get over the fact that there aren't explosions and guns in the game.

OMG YOU CAN FEED ANIMALS AND TRY TO MAKE THEM HAPPY???? HOW FUN AND WILDLY ORIGINAL!! HELL YEAHZ, NEXT GENERATION GAMING HAS ARRIVED!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Manny Calavera]

I'm sorry, I don't see how making lil cartoon animals, and feeding them and trying to get them mate is ''FUN'' in any way, shape or form.

If anything it shows me that Rare have pretty much always been overrated (play goldeneye again and see how generic it was).
To prove Rare was overrated I should....play a first person shooter, just one of their games out of many that are held up as classics.....nearly a decade after release, taking it totally of the context of when people decided it was so good in the first place? Nearly a decade after every other game copied it's every move, making it seem generic in retro spect? Are you retarded? Do you think LOTR is generic because it has elves and dwarves and stole that from D&D or something? I mean, wow, I don't think I've ever read a dumber post. You probably shouldn't try to share your thoughts anymore.

[WhatsHisFace]

(play goldeneye again and see how generic it was).
Play Perfect Dark and see how freaking amazing it was.

Then, play this teams previous games, Banjo Kazooie 1 and 2. Amazing games and platforming masterpieces.

[Horrorfan]

To prove Rare was overrated I should....play a first person shooter, just one of their games out of many that are held up as classics.....nearly a decade after release, taking it totally of the context of when people decided it was so good in the first place? Nearly a decade after every other game copied it's every move, making it seem generic in retro spect? Are you retarded? Do you think LOTR is generic because it has elves and dwarves and stole that from D&D or something? I mean, wow, I don't think I've ever read a dumber post. You probably shouldn't try to share your thoughts anymore.

Only by gaming snobs who like to pretend they are important because they read Edge and hold everything it says up as the gaming bible.

You're hardcore, you're cool, you're anti-noob and go against the grain you unique rebel you, blah blah blah...happy? It seems to me thats what you were fishing for.

[Manny Calavera]

Don't be ashamed of being a fairy queen :(
Guy who has actually had sex, more than once, and left his partner more than satisfied with his mammoth, god like penis, the kind of penis that people will tell legends about in the future, who is also secure enough in his sexuality and "coolness" to say "hey, this game looks like fun, I'm going to check it out" = 'fairy queen'.

Guy who has a face full of acne, virginity, a lack of the kind of communication skills you'd expect of a prepubescent teen, and the kind of insecurity and paranoia that just screams "yeah, a guy will be fisting me in a few years" = not a, and I quote, 'fairy queen'.

Hmm...something doesn't add up here...

[Manny Calavera]

Play Perfect Dark and see how freaking amazing it was.

Then, play this teams previous games, Banjo Kazooie 1 and 2. Amazing games and platforming masterpieces.
Shhhh, he'll call you a fairy queen, you don't want that :o

[Horrorfan]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/29/goldeneye-tested-on-12-year-old-fails-timeless-test/

Ironic how a 12 year old has more common sense than some people here.

[블라스]

In the sense that you play a "God" and control EVERYTHING and not just one character, yes, but it's still more like Animal crossing, in that your focus is on the environment the characters live in, improving it to keep them happy/to attract more of them, rather than on the characters themselves and making them happy by making them adapt to wherever they are. It's technically the same genre, yes, but they have a different focus. I actually think you might like it if you try it out, THWIP would probably have fun playing it with his wife if he tried it. Everyone just needs to get over the fact that there aren't explosions and guns in the game.

That actually sounds super fun.
Count me in :up:

[Horrorfan]

Guy who has actually had sex, more than once, and left his partner more than satisfied with his mammoth, god like penis, the kind of penis that people will tell legends about in the future, who is also secure enough in his sexuality and "coolness" to say "hey, this game looks like fun, I'm going to check it out" = 'fairy queen'....


Who's this guy?

[Manny Calavera]

Only by gaming snobs who like to pretend they are important because they read Edge and hold everything it says up as the gaming bible.

You're hardcore, your cool, your anti-noob and go against the grain you unique rebel you, blah blah blah...happy? It seems to me thats what you were fishing for.
Gaming snobs read Edge? http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif

[블라스]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/29/goldeneye-tested-on-12-year-old-fails-timeless-test/

Ironic how a 12 year old has more common sense than some people here.

I guess he was a "special" kid :(
That's the only explanation.

[WhatsHisFace]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/29/goldeneye-tested-on-12-year-old-fails-timeless-test/

Ironic how a 12 year old has more common sense than some people here.
That's also like looking at a chair made by early settlers, and then condemning it because today's people (machines and superior, treated wood)build chairs so much better.

[Manny Calavera]

I guess he was a "special" kid :(
That's the only explanation.
Oddly enough, that 12 year old was Horrorfan :confused:

[Horrorfan]

The game's just crap. Anyone who thinks otherwise is blinded by pure nostalgia.

[WhatsHisFace]

I'm sure there are kids these days who like Goldeneye. I mean, how can't you? The music alone is spine-tingling.

[Horrorfan]

Oddly enough, that 12 year old was Horrorfan :confused:


Better watch out since you will probably try and come on to me then...


That's why you like these games huh? It's the old ''candy'' trick with videogames, you sick bastard :(

[블라스]

The game's just crap. Anyone who thinks otherwise is mostly likly blinded by pure nostalgia.

Dude, that mission where you had to protect Natasha while she was hacking or something was so intense :(

[Horrorfan]

Dude, that mission where you had to protect Natasha while she was hacking or something was so intense :(

Its nostalgia gammy :(

[Axid]

Natalia....the worst A.I.-constructed character ever :O

[블라스]

Natalia....

Yeah, her too.

[Horrorfan]

Natalia....the worst A.I. ever :O

Except for Manny :o

[Axid]

That sucked. Put some more effort into it next time :o :down

[블라스]

Its nostalgia gammy :(

I'm pretty sure I can tell nostalgia from good gaming :mad:
I mean, I have good taste, remember?

I'll tell you something, though....I'd rather play Goldeneye than Halo.

[Horrorfan]

I'm pretty sure I can tell nostalgia from good gaming :mad:
I mean, I have good taste, remember?

I'll tell you something, though....I'd rather play Goldeneye than Halo.


It's pure, pure nostalgia :(

Axid, I thought the pedophile/gaming candy one was good :(

[WhatsHisFace]

Natalia....the worst A.I.-constructed character ever :O
Twice I actually had to shoot her to get her to open the door in the "Control Room" level. She just stopped in the middle of the room otherwise, with the door sound playing. :(

[Manny Calavera]

So yeah, everyone can pretty much agree that in addition to be a troll, Horrorfan is an idiot. While he eagerly awaits for his balls to drop, here's some opinions from people who played it, and aren't prepubescent autistic kids with a keyboard.

Well, picture a mix of Pokemon, Harvest Moon, The Sims, and Animal Crossing, and you might have a decent idea. You might.


At the end of the day, Viva Piñata is a change of pace for Rare that may surprise some who've only become acquainted with the developer by its most recent offerings. Longtime fans will merely see the game as the developer revisiting its lighter roots.


It looks deep and interesting, and despite a little hope that died inside me when I first saw it -- that somehow Rare would create the next Banjo-Kazooie or Blast Corps 2, or who knows, the greatest game ever -- the more I watched the demo, the more impressed I was. Perhaps this really is Rare's true calling.

[Horrorfan]

So yeah, everyone can pretty much agree that in addition to be a troll, Horrorfan is an idiot. While he eagerly awaits for his balls to drop, here's some opinions from people who played it, and aren't prepubescent autistic kids with a keyboard.


But don't you dig prepubescent autistic kids? :o

[Manny Calavera]

The only thing I remember really distinctly from that game is getting really pissed off at everything in the room whenever I fought a bot. :down

[Axid]

Twice I actually had to shoot her to get her to open the door in the "Control Room" level. She just stopped in the middle of the room otherwise, with the door sound playing. :(
I always left her locked up in the cell and killed everyone off first in the bunker 2 mission. Stupid whore would run off somewhere or get stuck behind a door

[블라스]

It's pure, pure nostalgia :(

http://home.earthlink.net/~triciamcmillian/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/evilcatfullofloathing.jpg

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah, I always freed her last too. She'd never survive the computer room shootouts long. :(

"Hold on James... must... push... button"

*ten minutes later*

"We HAVE to get out of here!"

[Horrorfan]

http://home.earthlink.net/~triciamcmillian/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/evilcatfullofloathing.jpg

I still dont know where you get these pics :p

[블라스]

I still dont know where you get these pics :p

The internet!!!1 :up:

[Horrorfan]

The internet!!!1 :up:

I shudder to think the sites you must go to what with these crazy images and mediocre looking, big breasted asian chicks :(

[블라스]

I shudder to think the sites you must go to what with these crazy images and mediocre looking, big breasted asian chicks :(

That's where you lost me, sorry :(

[Horrorfan]

That's where you lost me, sorry :(

come on man, you dont look at the faces :(

[블라스]

come on man, you dont look at the faces :(

http://myweb.hinet.net/home8/sky0807/anzu_sayuri020.jpg

[Horrorfan]

Ok shes hot. what about devon akeio or something, the chick in sin city and the doa movie? :up: :up:

[블라스]

I'd do her like a million times, yeah.

[Horrorfan]

I'd do her like a million times, yeah.

kinda prodding for pics :O

[블라스]

Even though she's not as pretty as the Japanese girls I like, I still like her and I'll watch DoA 10 times.

[Horrorfan]

Even though she's not as pretty as the Japanese girls I like, I still like her and I'll watch DoA 10 times.

Pics? :( :(


I think she's super hot.

Im watching doa for all the chicks. I like a variety :up:

[블라스]

http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/8042_21832_4.jpg

http://horror.about.com/library/weekly/SinCity/pages/af06sincity-miho.jpg

[Drakon]

-ahem-

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Bombs and Tits do not a good game make, nor "M" rating a mature gamer. A game like this honestly intrigues me, despite my lack of ability to play it. If you think differently, then perhaps this isn't the place for you.

Horrorfan--I know you don't like this because it's not blood and gore, but if you can't find a reason to dislike the game besides the fact that it's not your cup of tea, then you should find another thread to go post in.

[블라스]

-ahem-

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Bombs and Tits do not a good game make, nor "M" rating a mature gamer. A game like this honestly intrigues me, despite my lack of ability to play it. If you think differently, then perhaps this isn't the place for you.

Horrorfan--I know you don't like this because it's not blood and gore, but if you can't find a reason to dislike the game besides the fact that it's not your cup of tea, then you should find another thread to go post in.

Dave, Sims 2 for ps2 any good?
Kinda want it.

[Drakon]

As a general rule, I avoid recommending PC games on a console unless it's unavoidable. If your PC can handle it, go with that, but if not, it's worth a play-through. And if you've got a girl over, she'd be more likely to connect with you if you play Sims.

[블라스]

I don't have a girl right now LOL.
But yeah, I'll get it to lure Japanese girls to play, when I 'm living in Canada.

[Drakon]

I don't have a girl right now LOL.
But yeah, I'll get it to lure Japanese girls to play, when I 'm living in Canada.

You don't need to HAVE a girl...just have her OVER,if you get my drift.

[WhatsHisFace]

I don't have a girl right now LOL.
But yeah, I'll get it to lure Japanese girls to play, when I 'm living in Canada.
You're going too far north. Stop about half-way and then you're in the good zone.

That girl from Sin City isn't hot.

The Sims 2 is a totally different game on consoles. It's garbage. The only good thing about it is the ridiculously catchy music.

[Manny Calavera]

-ahem-

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Bombs and Tits do not a good game make, nor "M" rating a mature gamer. A game like this honestly intrigues me, despite my lack of ability to play it. If you think differently, then perhaps this isn't the place for you.

Horrorfan--I know you don't like this because it's not blood and gore, but if you can't find a reason to dislike the game besides the fact that it's not your cup of tea, then you should find another thread to go post in.
You're one of the good ones afterall :o

[블라스]

You don't need to HAVE a girl...just have her OVER,if you get my drift.

I think I'm having sex this sunday, and in my house too.
No expensive motels :up:

[블라스]

You're going too far north. Stop about half-way and then you're in the good zone.

Well, I'd be near NY or Seattle, so it wouldn't be that bad?

That girl from Sin City isn't hot.

Yeah, on second thought, she looks good sometimes, but really bad sometimes, she has weird angles I guess.
I love the ones I post a million times more.

The Sims 2 is a totally different game on consoles. It's garbage. The only good thing about it is the ridiculously catchy music.

I've decided to not get that and just get The Punisher instead.

[WhatsHisFace]

I've decided to not get that and just get The Punisher instead.
The Punisher is such a good game. It's just... not good in the typical way.

[Manny Calavera]

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_09hi.jpg
So yeah, this game is the best looking thing anywhere, on anything. I'm glad you said you'd look into it Gamera, hopefully WHF and THWIP make the right decision as well :(

[Horrorfan]

All I said was is that Rare was a HUGE waste of money. I hardly think this game is the one that is making sony **** their pants. Cant I voice my opinion now or something? Do we all have to agree all the time?


I think games like this are pointless. Wow raise an animal. How amazingly fun.

If people enjoy it, thats cool with me, but it still doesn't change the fact that Microsoft could have gotten much better companies. As it is, they may well have poured money down the drain.

But then I never saw the fuss about Rare in the first place.

[hippie_hunter]

So yeah, this game is the best looking thing anywhere, on anything. I'm glad you said you'd look into it Gamera, hopefully WHF and THWIP make the right decision as well :(

You can't be serious. Tons of games look so much better than THAT! Gears of War, Halo 3, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Ninety-Nine Nights, and others.

Why can't Rare just make Banjo Kazooie 3, a Perfect Dark game that lives up to its predecessor, a sequel to Conker instead of a remake, or Killer Instinct 3. Viva Pinata is just looks so f**king retarded.

[Manny Calavera]

It's always refreshing to mingle with the intellectually inferior.

1) Rare was a HUGE waste of money...despite turning a profit for each and every one of their games, something several Microsoft published games can't claim, nor can the Xbox platform itself. And don't even get me started on the fact that they appeal to a demographic that otherwise is largely untouched on the xbox360 platform. Yeah, what a waste.

2) No one said anything about this game making sony "**** their pants". Do you honestly play games based on their ability to help you in your online video game arguments? That is, in all seriousness, the gayest thing I have ever heard.

3) Yeah, I mean, no one likes games like these, look at the piss poor sales and reviews of dog**** games like Sims and Animal Crossing for proof of that. Or proof that your opinions are essentially so unfounded as to be totally invalid. Either one.

4) It's clearly not cool with you. Any attempt at enjoying it is an obvious admission to (and, to anyone who has not yet read this entire thread, I'm not joking, he really is this dumb) being a "pedo", amongst other things. Face facts. You hate it because you think it makes you cool to say "omg kiddiez!1", like people who refused to touch a gamecube for fear of ruining their image (and, let's be honest, people like that likely don't have much to lose in that area), people who won't watch certain movies, read certain books, listen to certain music, etc. You've made it abundantly clear that you're not just here for trolling, but also to somehow look "cool" with your video games, so don't act indignant when no one takes you seriously.

5) They could have gotten "much better" companies? Better than companies who consistently pump out commercial and critical success stories? Better than companies that were selling dirt cheap? OH, that's right, you suggested they buy Rockstar, right? Haha, yeah, because the Xbox line up wasn't already oversaturated with terrible titles aiming at that demographic. I get the feeling that there are people just like you running the business end of every failed company on the face of the earth in the past 20 years.

6) No, they don't. I mean, first of all, we can eliminate quite a few games from that list instantly. Metal Gear Solid 4? Are you serious? It looks like MGS3, only in high def, it's not even a contender. I mean, I know you love it and all, and think that it's some great graphical masterpiece and all that, but yeah, it's not. And Final Fantasy? http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif Are you honestly comparing Viva to a pre-rendered cgi fest that doesn't even look half as good regardless? Seriously? You sure? Hahahaha, wow. Try a little harder to build your lists. For example, when making a list of "graphically superior games", try not to include games that "look like an overhyped soggy bag of ass". The only real contenders there are Gears of War and Halo 3, which only look better from a realism stand point. If you take into account that it's ****ing retarded to compare a stylized visual to something trying to look perfectly real, and take into account that the stylized visuals just make it more interesting to look at, yeah, Viva Pinata beats them both. I mean, it's not even debatable, this is almost as bad as the time when you tried to say Japan was actually the biggest market past 1998http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif


As for why Rare can't make...
Banjo - They can, and will.
A good Perfect Dark - They did, it's just that idiots decided they'd hate it before it came out, and mostly didn't even bother playing it, judging it entirely on months old shots of an even older alpha build of the game, usually making that the basis of their ONLY judgments on the title.
Conker - They will.
KI3 - I'm sure they are.


I mean, so far, the only complaints about this game have been either "I am 12 years old and thus believe myself to be too cool to have fun, despite the fact that I'm, you know, 12 years old" and "I wanted another game, so instead of being disappointed that I didn't get them, I'll be disappointed that I didn't get them and I'll trash this as well, despite the fact that this idea is ****ing retarded." Seriously, I really don't have any problem with someone saying "this ain't my cup of tea", I didn't blow up on WHF or anything, but honestly, if you're going to dislike something, at least give a decent reason, don't pull that "I only play what my friends say is cool, sorry, my hands are tied :(" crap, and for god's sakes don't compare the games visuals to a game like N3, which, despite it's great gameplay, looks like a trashy xbox launch title.

[Drakon]

Seriously, I really don't have any problem with someone saying "this ain't my cup of tea", I didn't blow up on WHF or anything, but honestly, if you're going to dislike something, at least give a decent reason

I used that exact same logic on him--he didn't listen then, and he won't listen now.

[Manny Calavera]

'Smallholding' Gameplay Video (http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/dloads/Pinata_Smallholding_Med.wmv)


'Water Park' Gameplay Video (http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/dloads/Pinata_WaterPark_Med.wmv)


'Wild Country' Gameplay Video (http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/dloads/Pinata_WildCountry_Med.wmv)

[Horrorfan]

It's always refreshing to mingle with the intellectually inferior.

1) Rare was a HUGE waste of money...despite turning a profit for each and every one of their games, something several Microsoft published games can't claim, nor can the Xbox platform itself. And don't even get me started on the fact that they appeal to a demographic that otherwise is largely untouched on the xbox360 platform. Yeah, what a waste.

2) No one said anything about this game making sony "**** their pants". Do you honestly play games based on their ability to help you in your online video game arguments? That is, in all seriousness, the gayest thing I have ever heard.

3) Yeah, I mean, no one likes games like these, look at the piss poor sales and reviews of dog**** games like Sims and Animal Crossing for proof of that. Or proof that your opinions are essentially so unfounded as to be totally invalid. Either one.

4) It's clearly not cool with you. Any attempt at enjoying it is an obvious admission to (and, to anyone who has not yet read this entire thread, I'm not joking, he really is this dumb) being a "pedo", amongst other things. Face facts. You hate it because you think it makes you cool to say "omg kiddiez!1", like people who refused to touch a gamecube for fear of ruining their image (and, let's be honest, people like that likely don't have much to lose in that area), people who won't watch certain movies, read certain books, listen to certain music, etc. You've made it abundantly clear that you're not just here for trolling, but also to somehow look "cool" with your video games, so don't act indignant when no one takes you seriously.

5) They could have gotten "much better" companies? Better than companies who consistently pump out commercial and critical success stories? Better than companies that were selling dirt cheap? OH, that's right, you suggested they buy Rockstar, right? Haha, yeah, because the Xbox line up wasn't already oversaturated with terrible titles aiming at that demographic. I get the feeling that there are people just like you running the business end of every failed company on the face of the earth in the past 20 years.

6) No, they don't. I mean, first of all, we can eliminate quite a few games from that list instantly. Metal Gear Solid 4? Are you serious? It looks like MGS3, only in high def, it's not even a contender. I mean, I know you love it and all, and think that it's some great graphical masterpiece and all that, but yeah, it's not. And Final Fantasy? http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif Are you honestly comparing Viva to a pre-rendered cgi fest that doesn't even look half as good regardless? Seriously? You sure? Hahahaha, wow. Try a little harder to build your lists. For example, when making a list of "graphically superior games", try not to include games that "look like an overhyped soggy bag of ass". The only real contenders there are Gears of War and Halo 3, which only look better from a realism stand point. If you take into account that it's ****ing retarded to compare a stylized visual to something trying to look perfectly real, and take into account that the stylized visuals just make it more interesting to look at, yeah, Viva Pinata beats them both. I mean, it's not even debatable, this is almost as bad as the time when you tried to say Japan was actually the biggest market past 1998http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif


As for why Rare can't make...
Banjo - They can, and will.
A good Perfect Dark - They did, it's just that idiots decided they'd hate it before it came out, and mostly didn't even bother playing it, judging it entirely on months old shots of an even older alpha build of the game, usually making that the basis of their ONLY judgments on the title.
Conker - They will.
KI3 - I'm sure they are.


I mean, so far, the only complaints about this game have been either "I am 12 years old and thus believe myself to be too cool to have fun, despite the fact that I'm, you know, 12 years old" and "I wanted another game, so instead of being disappointed that I didn't get them, I'll be disappointed that I didn't get them and I'll trash this as well, despite the fact that this idea is ****ing retarded." Seriously, I really don't have any problem with someone saying "this ain't my cup of tea", I didn't blow up on WHF or anything, but honestly, if you're going to dislike something, at least give a decent reason, don't pull that "I only play what my friends say is cool, sorry, my hands are tied :(" crap, and for god's sakes don't compare the games visuals to a game like N3, which, despite it's great gameplay, looks like a trashy xbox launch title.


I am not reading a post that long on such a lame game. It's a little sad you actually care about it that much.

Forget the fact that the graphics are kiddy, the whole idea is LAME. Raising ****ing animals? Get real. Y ou would have to be an idiot to find that in a videogame ''fun''. ''Holy ****, he's eating his pedigree chum!!! How UTTERLY THRILLING!!! LOLZ!!!''.

Rare had NO impact last time round, and won't this time either. They are hardly Rockstar.

Of course, you are the ONE spastic who said Gears of War would suck, so I am hardly surprised you are defending a piss poor, pathetic excuse of a game.

[WhatsHisFace]

Forget the fact that the graphics are kiddy, the whole idea is LAME. Raising ****ing animals? Get real.
Yeah, games like that never take off.

1. Monster Ranch series.
2. Pokemon franchise.
3. Tomagachi phenomenon.

Plus, it will bring in more girl gamers than Dead Rising, which is now in my possession.

[Drakon]

^^

Everyday, I lose more and more faith in you, Horrorfan.

[Manny Calavera]

Ok.
I finally understand now...

[Horrorfan]

Yeah, games like that never take off.

1. Monster Ranch series.
2. Pokemon franchise.
3. Tomagachi phenomenon.

Plus, it will bring in more girl gamers than Dead Rising, which is now in my possession.

The target audience???? Kids. Simple.


I dont care who looses faith in me. I don't exactly give a **** if you care about what I say. Im not a guy like some here who goes along with the trend because its the popular opinion around here. I say what I think, so deal or dont.

[Manny Calavera]

After all this, you're honestly trying to present yourself as the guy who doesn't go along with trends and what's "cool"? http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif

[Horrorfan]

After all this, you're honestly trying to present yourself as the guy who doesn't go along with trends and what's "cool"? http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif

No, unlike YOU, who goes along with everyone else's opinions and don't seem to have any of your own . Everything you say has been said before many many many many many times by other people, and better usually.

Ninja Gaiden, KOTOR, Zelda, etc....is there ANY game you like that isn't a cliche ''hardcore gamer's favourite'' (TM)?

You're a cliche. The most cliche guy I have ever come across on any message board.

Now go play pokemon or something like that.

[Manny Calavera]

Or those games are actually fun, which is why people like them. Hahaha, wow, I can't even fully wrap my mind around the irony of being called a "cliche" by the 12 year old who honestly doesn't see what's wrong with playing games solely based on how much blood there is :o

[Horrorfan]

Or those games are actually fun, which is why people like them. Hahaha, wow, I can't even fully wrap my mind around the irony of being called a "cliche" by the 12 year old who honestly doesn't see what's wrong with playing games solely based on how much blood there is :o

No, they AREN'T fun, stupid. You're wrong :o

You and the cliche brigade just need to be sheep.

I'm not saying this game will suck because it doesn't have blood, it's just a ****ty idea. Wow raising animals? **** me, how more next gen can games get??? :o

[Manny Calavera]

Ok.

[WhatsHisFace]

No, they AREN'T fun, stupid. You're wrong :o
You're saying that Ninja Gaiden, KOTOR and Zelda aren't fun?

[Horrorfan]

Ok.

Finally. You're a pretty ok guy when you learn to get under my heel :up:

[Horrorfan]

You're saying that Ninja Gaiden, KOTOR and Zelda aren't fun?

Never played NG, not my type of game. Zelda is not interesting to me graphically or conceputally or in terms of storyline. KOTOR's combat system SUCKED :down

That's before we mention the generic Goldeneye thats held up as some kind of standard.

[Manny Calavera]

You're saying that Ninja Gaiden, KOTOR and Zelda aren't fun?
Yes :o

[Drakon]

That's the thing--you're not a guy who goes along with the trend here. You're a guy who refuses to even touch something that's not rated "M". And, with all due respect, it's THAT kind of mentaility that has ruined games over the last 10 years, ever since gaming has gone really mainstream. And your refusal to accept that something isn't fun to you and NOT call it crap really hurts your case, especially since you don't play the games, so your opinion is flawed and completely unfounded. Just because a game doesn't make you have to go get hookers and blow **** up doesn't mean it's meant for kids. It's meant for people with an open mind.

[WhatsHisFace]

Never played NG, not my type of game. You fail. Zelda is not interesting to me graphically or conceputally or in terms of storyline. How about in adventure structure? It's still the standard for puzzles and dungeons. KOTOR's combat system SUCKED :down And it's story, dialogue, roleplaying and quality are still unmatched by basically everything.
....

[Horrorfan]

That's the thing--you're not a guy who goes along with the trend here. You're a guy who refuses to even touch something that's not rated "M". And, with all due respect, it's THAT kind of mentaility that has ruined games over the last 10 years, ever since gaming has gone really mainstream. And your refusal to accept that something isn't fun to you and NOT call it crap really hurts your case, especially since you don't play the games, so your opinion is flawed and completely unfounded. Just because a game doesn't make you have to go get hookers and blow **** up doesn't mean it's meant for kids. It's meant for people with an open mind.


Read. Im not touching it because it's a ****T IDEA. THE IDEA IS ****TY. RAISING ****ING ANNIMALS IS NOT WHAT I WANT TO PLAY IN A GAME.

Comprende?

[Manny Calavera]

You don't even raise animals in this game, my god, you don't even know what you're attacking anymore :o

[Drakon]

No, unlike YOU, who goes along with everyone else's opinions and don't seem to have any of your own . Everything you say has been said before many many many many many times by other people, and better usually.

Ninja Gaiden, KOTOR, Zelda, etc....is there ANY game you like that isn't a cliche ''hardcore gamer's favourite'' (TM)?

You're a cliche. The most cliche guy I have ever come across on any message board.

Now go play pokemon or something like that.

Are we talking about classic Ninja Gaiden, or XBOX?

KOTOR was great in a lot of aspects, but admittedly, most of it's charms are lost on casual gamers or non-franchise fans. The battle system wasn't bad, but I'm also a tabletop player, so I could appreciate it a lot more than the casual video gamer.

Zelda isn't bad at all. Sure, by now, it's become cliché, but there's a reason for that. Zelda is the original. The original sells. People want money, so they copy the original.

[Manny Calavera]

Hands on impressions from IGN (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706882p1.html)

Hands on impressions from Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/vivapinata/news.html?sid=6150567&mode=previews)


Looking good :up:

[hippie_hunter]

It's always refreshing to mingle with the intellectually inferior.
Jackass

1) Rare was a HUGE waste of money...despite turning a profit for each and every one of their games, something several Microsoft published games can't claim, nor can the Xbox platform itself. And don't even get me started on the fact that they appeal to a demographic that otherwise is largely untouched on the xbox360 platform. Yeah, what a waste.
I never said that in this thread. Yes I do think that Rare was a waste of money considering that they really didn't make anything that great for the original Xbox.

2) No one said anything about this game making sony "**** their pants". Do you honestly play games based on their ability to help you in your online video game arguments? That is, in all seriousness, the gayest thing I have ever heard.
I never said that at all, EVER!

3) Yeah, I mean, no one likes games like these, look at the piss poor sales and reviews of dog**** games like Sims and Animal Crossing for proof of that. Or proof that your opinions are essentially so unfounded as to be totally invalid. Either one.
I never said that either jackass.

4) It's clearly not cool with you. Any attempt at enjoying it is an obvious admission to (and, to anyone who has not yet read this entire thread, I'm not joking, he really is this dumb) being a "pedo", amongst other things. Face facts. You hate it because you think it makes you cool to say "omg kiddiez!1", like people who refused to touch a gamecube for fear of ruining their image (and, let's be honest, people like that likely don't have much to lose in that area), people who won't watch certain movies, read certain books, listen to certain music, etc. You've made it abundantly clear that you're not just here for trolling, but also to somehow look "cool" with your video games, so don't act indignant when no one takes you seriously.
You're damn right it doesn't look cool to me. As a matter in fact it looks really lame. An opinion that is shared among many others.

5) They could have gotten "much better" companies? Better than companies who consistently pump out commercial and critical success stories? Better than companies that were selling dirt cheap? OH, that's right, you suggested they buy Rockstar, right? Haha, yeah, because the Xbox line up wasn't already oversaturated with terrible titles aiming at that demographic. I get the feeling that there are people just like you running the business end of every failed company on the face of the earth in the past 20 years.
I never said that at all either. You are really stretching this.

6) No, they don't. I mean, first of all, we can eliminate quite a few games from that list instantly. Metal Gear Solid 4? Are you serious? It looks like MGS3, only in high def, it's not even a contender. I mean, I know you love it and all, and think that it's some great graphical masterpiece and all that, but yeah, it's not. And Final Fantasy? http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif Are you honestly comparing Viva to a pre-rendered cgi fest that doesn't even look half as good regardless? Seriously? You sure? Hahahaha, wow. Try a little harder to build your lists. For example, when making a list of "graphically superior games", try not to include games that "look like an overhyped soggy bag of ass". The only real contenders there are Gears of War and Halo 3, which only look better from a realism stand point. If you take into account that it's ****ing retarded to compare a stylized visual to something trying to look perfectly real, and take into account that the stylized visuals just make it more interesting to look at, yeah, Viva Pinata beats them both. I mean, it's not even debatable, this is almost as bad as the time when you tried to say Japan was actually the biggest market past 1998http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif
You are nothing but a pathetic Microsoft fanboy if you think that only Xbox 360 games look graphically better than Viva Pinata. The games I have mentioned all look better graphically than Viva Pinata. And I bet that others would agree with me on this.


As for why Rare can't make...
Banjo - They can, and will.
A good Perfect Dark - They did, it's just that idiots decided they'd hate it before it came out, and mostly didn't even bother playing it, judging it entirely on months old shots of an even older alpha build of the game, usually making that the basis of their ONLY judgments on the title.
Conker - They will.
KI3 - I'm sure they are.
Then why the hell haven't they said that they are or will. Why not do it right now. Those games are in much more demand than f**king Viva Pinata.

I mean, so far, the only complaints about this game have been either "I am 12 years old and thus believe myself to be too cool to have fun, despite the fact that I'm, you know, 12 years old" and "I wanted another game, so instead of being disappointed that I didn't get them, I'll be disappointed that I didn't get them and I'll trash this as well, despite the fact that this idea is ****ing retarded." Seriously, I really don't have any problem with someone saying "this ain't my cup of tea", I didn't blow up on WHF or anything, but honestly, if you're going to dislike something, at least give a decent reason, don't pull that "I only play what my friends say is cool, sorry, my hands are tied :(" crap, and for god's sakes don't compare the games visuals to a game like N3, which, despite it's great gameplay, looks like a trashy xbox launch title.
The idea of this game is retarded. PINATAS!!! What the f**k. I don't want to play a video game with pinatas. It just looks like a bad concept.

[hippie_hunter]

Yes :o

You gotta be on something. Those are like some of the best games ever created!

[Manny Calavera]

I never said that in this thread. Yes I do think that Rare was a waste of money considering that they really didn't make anything that great for the original Xbox.
Yeah, I was also responding to Horror Fan, which I thought was obvious, since I was responding to things he said and that you did not, but I guess not. As for Rare being a waste of money...why again? Oh, because they didn't make anything "great" for the Xbox...despite the games they put out not only turning a profit, but being largely well received, and again on 360. Again, what a waste, they should have bought Majesco :rolleyes:


I never said that at all, EVER!
I never said that either jackass.
I never said that at all either. You are really stretching this.

Yes, he did, those exact words as a matter of fact, hence I was talking to him, obviously. "Jackass".


You're damn right it doesn't look cool to me. As a matter in fact it looks really lame. An opinion that is shared among many others.
You know what other opinion is shared amongst many others? That EA's "street" games and "Def Jam" are really "dope". I really couldn't care less how popular one opinion is over another here. The fact is, this game is going to be fun, it is visually interesting, and it's a breath of fresh air from all the ****ty sci fi Halo wanna be shooters and ****ty "action adventure, with GUNS! And now featuring: BLOOD!" almost-games that are flooding the system just like they did the original. And yet, all people can do is tear it down before they even really look at it or know anything about it, which is made obvious by people in this thread attacking things that arern't even in te game. And why is that again? Oh yeah, it's not "cool" enough. Not enough Snoop Dogg and "gats" for it to ever be fun, right? Idiots like you are the reason the industry looks the way it does now :down



You are nothing but a pathetic Microsoft fanboy if you think that only Xbox 360 games look graphically better than Viva Pinata. The games I have mentioned all look better graphically than Viva Pinata. And I bet that others would agree with me on this.
Actually, I said that no games look better than Viva Pinata, only that those two come close, not because they're 360 games, but because they're the only games that come close. If those two happen to be 360 games and that gets your panties in a bunch, go ***** and moan to for pretty much only releasing crap and CG, not me. And no, none of the games you mentioned look better than Viva Pinata, hell, one of the games you mentioned (N3), despite me loving it, looks worse than quite a few games on the original Xbox, much less the graphical flagship of that systems successor. And would others agree with you? Yeah. Would they be agreeing with you because Halo and Gears look more "real" and they can't comprehend any other way to look at graphics besides how "real" they look, totally ignoring how visually interesting something may be? Yeah. Does that totally invalidate your argument? Yeah.



Then why the hell haven't they said that they are or will. Why not do it right now. Those games are in much more demand than f**king Viva Pinata.
Says....who? People like yourself who have had a hate boner for Rare ever since they left Nintendo, because you believe they magically lost all their talent under the "dark" and "evil" leadership of Microsoft? People who are too "cool" for the types of games that Rare excells at anyways? The fact is, Viva Pinata appeals to a crowd that is largely untouched on this system while at the same time offering a lot of fun to anyone not so full of themselves that they'll give it a shot. Banjo does the same...but doesn't launch a huge money making fad for Microsoft. Jet Force Gemini is too niche. Perfect Dark and Kameo were already done. That leaves Killer Instinct, a game that is in a smaller genre that appeals to a crowd already WELL covered on the system. This is why you don't run companies and probably shouldn't in the near future.


The idea of this game is retarded. PINATAS!!! What the f**k. I don't want to play a video game with pinatas. It just looks like a bad concept.
What's so retarded about it? Would they be more acceptable with red bandannas and a gun in their sagging jeans? Maybe green MJOLNIR armor? The pinata's look visually interesting, it's something original that hasn't been done so much that it's become a bad game cliche like the above examples, and wouldn't put off anyone who would have played the game in the first place. The pinata's are fine, the only problems here are your poor reading abilities and your piss poor taste, though I guess that last one isn't that big a deal for you since judging by this thread you have other motivations besides "fun" for playing games.

[Manny Calavera]

You gotta be on something. Those are like some of the best games ever created!
Wow, how dumb could you possibly be?

Pay attention, I'm only going to explain this once.

I want you to go back, and read the entire post you quoted, including what I quoted. Read it again. Read until you understand what was going on.


I WAS SAYING "YES THAT IS WHAT HE IS SAYING", NOT SAYING "YES THAT IS WHAT I THINK"! Jesus :rolleyes:

[Lactophiliac]

Yeah this games looks like it's going to be good at what it does, it just doesn't seem like it's going to do anything I'm all that interested in. I could never get into the Sims or Animal Crossing or any of those types of games that this seems to be in a similar vein to.

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah, it's basically "Rare rips off Animal Crossing" from what I've read, if you tried it and didn't like, this has nothing for you but pretty visuals and more points for your gamer score.

[Lactophiliac]

Yeah, To bad because I really liked the visual style, oh well.

[Spidey-Bat]

It's a shame they made this crap instead of Banjo-Threeie or a new Conker game :o

[Manny Calavera]

Die :(:down

[Lactophiliac]

It's a shame they made this crap instead of Banjo-Threeie or a new Conker game :oYeah because more sequels at the expense of unique and original games is exactly what the videogame industry needs. :rolleyes:

[블라스]

Is there gameplay video for this?

[Manny Calavera]

Yep, here:
'Smallholding' Gameplay Video (http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/dloads/Pinata_Smallholding_Med.wmv)


'Water Park' Gameplay Video (http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/dloads/Pinata_WaterPark_Med.wmv)


'Wild Country' Gameplay Video (http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/dloads/Pinata_WildCountry_Med.wmv)

[블라스]

Thanks, Hodges.
Downloading now :up:

[Manny Calavera]

I'm glad you're at least giving the game a chance :up:

[블라스]

Giving the game a chance?
This is Rare trying out a "Sims" like concept.
They have my money.

[Horrorfan]

LOL I am still tickled grown adults find the concept of raising an in game animal a unique and original concept.

Let's face it, it's Microsoft's attempt to cater to kids and bring in a new market. Nothing wrong with that, but lets not pretend its a noble attempt to break new ground and try something new and amazing when its basically a prettier chia pet or whatever they used to be called.

[블라스]

But it's fun :confused:

[Manny Calavera]

But he's 12, so don't bother. Just nod your head, say 'ok', and continue to have better taste :o

[Lactophiliac]

LOL I am still tickled grown adults find the concept of raising an in game animal a unique and original concept.But that's not what you are doing in this game:confused: :confused:

[Spidey-Bat]

Yeah because more sequels at the expense of unique and original games is exactly what the videogame industry needs. :rolleyes:

unique and original? This is animal crossing with pinatas. I'd rather a sequel to a great game with even even more capabilities and impressive graphics (I know I always say I dont care about graphics, but I want to see the leap from N64 to 360).

[Horrorfan]

But he's 12, so don't bother. Just nod your head, say 'ok', and continue to have better taste :o

Go play with your pokemon while waiting for the tellytubby game to be announced :o

[Manny Calavera]

omg u got me laul!1 :rolleyes:


Anyways, this (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/v/vivapinata/20060517-designerinterview.htm) designer interview (you may need to log in using your .NET passport, not sure, just use the one you used for your gamertag if you do) has some interesting tid bits. I can't wait for TGS and X06, hopefully they show some more of this game :up:

[Horrorfan]

Yeah nevermind resident evil 5, we need viva pinata lol

[Manny Calavera]

^
I'm dead serious, this guy just tried to attack me with not one, not two, not even three, but four aim accounts, and counting. Someone has a hate boner, if you're old enough for those yet http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif

[Horrorfan]

^
I'm dead serious, this guy just tried to attack me with not one, not two, not even three, but four aim accounts, and counting. Someone has a hate boner, if you're old enough for those yet http://media.teamxbox.com/forum/smilies/lol.gif

Actually I was trying to clear the air, but you kept running away lol.
You don't have to be scared you know, I can't punch throw a screen :p


Guess you're too busy hitting on zenien again :o

[Manny Calavera]

Session Start (crystalnynja:Black Heart Ange): Wed Aug 16 18:35:27 2006
[18:35] Black Heart Ange: sup dtr
[18:35] crystalnynja: who are you again?
[18:35] Black Heart Ange: lol
[18:35] Black Heart Ange: horrorfan
[18:35] crystalnynja: oh
[18:35] crystalnynja: goodbye
Session Close (Black Heart Ange): Wed Aug 16 18:35:55 2006
BLOCKED

Session Start (crystalnynja:JamiePoole4): Wed Aug 16 18:36:20 2006
[18:36] JamiePoole4: you always been such a big pussy lol
[18:36] JamiePoole4: kiddy
[18:36] JamiePoole4: viva pinata
[18:36] JamiePoole4: not so clever now
[18:36] JamiePoole4: whatsy our problem anyway?
[18:37] JamiePoole4: all i said was my views on viva pinata
[18:37] crystalnynja: if only I were mature to try and talk to people twice my age about things I had no clue about even when they tried to show me the door, I could be just like you :(
[18:37] JamiePoole4: and you get all pissy
[18:37] crystalnynja: alas, I can not
[18:37] JamiePoole4: all i said was
[18:37] crystalnynja: looks like this is goodbye again
Session Close (JamiePoole4): Wed Aug 16 18:37:25 2006

BLOCKED...again

Session Start (crystalnynja:Vampireskiss2099): Wed Aug 16 18:37:49 2006
[18:37] Vampireskiss2099: dude, i think you're an ok guy- so why being so hostile?
Session Close (Vampireskiss2099): Wed Aug 16 18:37:54 2006

...hmm, oh, yeah, BLOCKED

Session Start (crystalnynja:Jamiepoole2007): Wed Aug 16 18:38:23 2006
[18:38] Jamiepoole2007: dont take it so personally
Session Close (Jamiepoole2007): Wed Aug 16 18:38:31 2006

*sigh*, BLOCKED



I don't know if that just didn't convey the message or what, but I'll try again: You're 12. You have ****ty taste. Every point you make is so bad that it's almost like you're joking, but sadly, I'm not that lucky. There is no reason for either of us to continue this. If you don't like Viva Pinata, feel free to go create a "Uber Blood and Guts IVVIVIVVV Special Edition Hype Thread: Now With Hookers!" and post in there, or better yet, keep posting in here but don't try to talk to me on AIM, because I really, really don't want to have a conversation with you. Read that until you get it. Thanks.

[Axid]

****ing psycho :o

[Horrorfan]

I didn't say any of that??? :confused: :confused:

Nice manip job though.

I simply came on to clear the air, then you **** your pants and ran away.

Don't be ashamed, I'm sure you're not the first to be scared of a guy on the internet, though why you would be scared of someone trying to clear the air is beyond me

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah, you said all of that, that comes straight from Trillian's log files buddy. Sorry, you fail :(

[Horrorfan]

It doesn't even sound like me :confused: :confused:

and whos trillian?

[Manny Calavera]

It doesn't even sound like me :confused: :confused:

and whos trillian?
Sig worthy.

[Horrorfan]

Sig worthy.

I get that a lot.

[Manny Calavera]

Teamxbox E3 Preview (http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1378/Viva-Piata/p1/)

[Manny Calavera]

This is probably my favorite screenshot of this game, it just looks beautiful. If you look, you'll see that the paper-mache effect actually changes with the weather, and they actually look wetted down, and the whole thing just generally looks awesome. Reminds me of a Tim Burton claymation type thing for some reason.

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_02hi.jpg

[Horrorfan]

This is probably my favorite screenshot of this game, it just looks beautiful. If you look, you'll see that the paper-mache effect actually changes with the weather, and they actually look wetted down, and the whole thing just generally looks awesome. Reminds me of a Tim Burton claymation type thing for some reason.

http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/shots/pinata_02hi.jpg

Manny, not sure if you are done ****ting your pants from yesterday, but I will clear the air here since you have an inexplicable fear of me on messenger for some reason...

Ok, even though I believe the primary audience for this title is kids, I have no problem with adults playing it. Where you got confused was you assumed that I did, when all I was trying to point out that the point of this game is to bring the kid's market to the x box, first and foremost. why do you think its being developed into a cartoon as well? Theres nothing wrong with it, but don't deny the core audience of who it was created for.

My only problem with you liking this game is that you tried to make it out as something amazingly new and innovative (which it isn't) which wasn't primarily designed for kids (which it was). Im not saying that means adults cant play and enjoy it, for god's sake, Im simply saying dont deny the reason it exists is to bring a younger market to x box, not to be something new and innovative for all ages.

[Manny Calavera]

That may be the worst backtracking ever. Don't deny the core audience? I've been talking about the core audience being one of the reasons MS green lit the project for several pages in response to you, with you always disagreeing that they should have bought "Rockstar" or some crap like that to appeal to people that are already WELL covered. You're problem with me liking this game isn't that I tried to make it out to be something amazingly new and innovative, because I didn't do that, at best I said it was a breath of fresh air on the 360 platform and that certain visual effects were "innovative". You lose, a million times over, just stop posting here :down

[Addendum]

I'll wait for a Sesame Street game on the 360 ;)

[Manny Calavera]

Ok guys, we get it. You should have been swallowed, you weren't, you're angry, you're taking it out on the internet by flooding it with stupid **** like 'playing fun games isn't nearly as mature as playing a game with hookers, because sex makes me giggle'. We get it, I promise. We got it on page one. It's over now.

[Addendum]

So what's fun about gardening?

[Manny Calavera]

*sigh*
Have you played Animal Crossing, or maybe Sims or Pikmin? It's in that same loose 'genre', to give you an idea of what's fun about it. Like I said in the first post, I know the genre sounds dumb on paper, you just have to play it to understand it.

[Horrorfan]

That may be the worst backtracking ever. Don't deny the core audience? I've been talking about the core audience being one of the reasons MS green lit the project for several pages in response to you, with you always disagreeing that they should have bought "Rockstar" or some crap like that to appeal to people that are already WELL covered. You're problem with me liking this game isn't that I tried to make it out to be something amazingly new and innovative, because I didn't do that, at best I said it was a breath of fresh air on the 360 platform and that certain visual effects were "innovative". You lose, a million times over, just stop posting here :down

So you are actually saying that buying Rare over say rockstar was a good decision? Having fanchises like Conker, Viva Pinata and Perfect Dark is more than equal to say Grand Theft Auto? Hell, GTA ALONE is worth more than all of Rare's output all together in the console war. Microsoft wanted them to make an impact, and did they? No. They made no difference in the console war first time round, and won't this time either. At $250 million, that HAS to be a disappointment.

If you are honestly trying to say that having Viva Pinata as an exclusive is a far better idea than having all future GTA's console exclusive, then I just laugh at you.

Rare has not been as impactful as Microsoft hoped, and the last two games for 360 got mixed receptions, at best, and only sold as well as they did since they were launch titles.

So you fail. Go play with your barbies now :o

[Manny Calavera]

Hmm, why would franchises that previously would NEVER have appeared on the Xbox platform be more valuable than franchises that are ALREADY on it...gee, I wonder. If you were running MS, I have a feeling you would have used the Rare money to just rebuy Bungie. As for the impact...were they supposed to? Rare was purchased for this generation, and this generation, they delivered two critically acclaimed commercially successful launch titles, more than any other Microsoft first party, quite the impact. So yeah, wrong. And the Barbie line pretty much perfectly sums up the reason you pretty much get laughed off now.

[Horrorfan]

Hmm, why would franchises that previously would NEVER have appeared on the Xbox platform be more valuable than franchises that are ALREADY on it...gee, I wonder. If you were running MS, I have a feeling you would have used the Rare money to just rebuy Bungie.

Do you know what exclusive means? If Microsoft brought take two/rockstar, it would have ALL GTAS IN FUTURE EXCLUSIVLY. In case you live under a rock, GTA is pretty much THE system seller, the record shattering game series that would be like having a goldmine in your back yard.

Or are you saying you don't think having all future GTA games exclusive would make a difference?

Or a better question: which will sell more: viva pinata or GTA 4?



And hell, rebuying bungie would be a better idea than spunking cash on the currently useless rare.

[Manny Calavera]

Totally hopeless. Welcome to my ignore list. I wouldn't even put people like Riz, Spiderdogg, or Oregondude on my ignore list, even though I wanted to stab all three in the face for stupidity, just to put that into perspective for you.

[Horrorfan]

Totally hopeless. Welcome to my ignore list. I wouldn't even put people like Riz, Spiderdogg, or Oregondude on my ignore list, even though I wanted to stab all three in the face for stupidity, just to put that into perspective for you.

Does this mean we won't be able to play pokemon this weekend? :(

[Addendum]

*sigh*
Have you played Animal Crossing, or maybe Sims or Pikmin? It's in that same loose 'genre', to give you an idea of what's fun about it. Like I said in the first post, I know the genre sounds dumb on paper, you just have to play it to understand it.
Animal Crossing? Nope. I don't have a Gamecube.

The Sims? No, though I have played SimCity.

Pikmin? I don't have a Gamecube.

[Horrorfan]

Animal Crossing? Nope. I don't have a Gamecube.

The Sims? No, though I have played SimCity.

Pikmin? I don't have a Gamecube.

and plus, you're not eight :p

[Manny Calavera]

Animal Crossing? Nope. I don't have a Gamecube.

The Sims? No, though I have played SimCity.

Pikmin? I don't have a Gamecube.
Hmm...well, this is a totally invalid comparison probably, but I'll make it anyways. You know how in Simcity, you would start with just this ruined patch of dirt and you'd add buildings and more people would come in and you'd have more tax revenue to build better things for more people and how you'd have to build things based on the demands of the people already there? Viva Pinata will sort of be like that.

You start in an almost-desert with just patches of dead grass and ruins around, and you go from there, you just build a garden to attract more and different species, just like you would build your city in SimCity to attract people, but it's a little more complex than that. Certain Pinata's just don't like each other and will fight over resources, some of them will mate and create whole new breeds that might threaten your other stuff, etc. You can also attract "bad pinata's" (I don't know what their actual name is, the red looking evil thing in one of the screenshots I posted is an example though) which will also eat up your resources and other pinata's, which I guess would be comparable to natural disasters in Simcity.

You have to be more creative with ways to get rid of them though, because if you take the direct approach and just cross breed some doomsday pinata to go and kick it's ass, it'll burst and it's candy will go everywhere, and any pinata that eats it has a small chance of going "bad" and causing your problem to just get bigger.

There's also an online enconomy thing with it, with you being able to mail a box back and forth with a friend containing several pinata's. For example, if my friend has a problem with bad pinata's, and I have a problem with...something, I don't know, I could mail him a breed of doomsday pinata's that I've created in exchange for him mailing me the building plans for something new, or a new breed, something like that.


That's a really loose comparison, and there's more to the game than that, but yeah, if you liked Simcity/ever play and like Animal Crossing, you'll like Viva Pinata. You can probably find better info here (http://www.rareware.com/games/upcoming/pinata/pinata_intro.html), if you want it.

[Addendum]

I liked creating a city and then destroying it.

The exploding pinatas sound cool

[Spidey-Bat]

Animal Crossing? Nope. I don't have a Gamecube.

The Sims? No, though I have played SimCity.

Pikmin? I don't have a Gamecube.

You dont need to have a Gamecube to know what they are.

[Manny Calavera]

In hindsight, I don't know why I listed Pikmin, this game doesn't really have much in common with it :confused:

[Horrorfan]

Because you're a lil nancy boy, thats why.


But anyway, well done Microsoft. Nevermind the fact that Rare made no difference whatsoever in the console war first time round and haven't got great reviews in years. DRT says you were worth it so there you go. $250 million vindicated :o

[Addendum]

You dont need to have a Gamecube to know what they are.
I've read about Animal Crossing and Pikmin. I've no interest in playing either.

[Manny Calavera]

If you liked Simcity, you'll probably like Animal Crossing :confused:
Regardless, if you hate Animal Crossing, don't buy this.

[Spidey-Bat]

I've read about Animal Crossing and Pikmin. I've no interest in playing either.

You don't know what you're missing with Pikmin.

[블라스]

http://www.news4gamers.com/xbox360/News-6897.aspx

Viva Pinata TV Show preview.

[WhatsHisFace]

Kid comercials are annoying. :(

But the end was funny.

"NO PROMISES!!!"

[Manny Calavera]

I'll have to wait until X06, but I think this game may actually make it's target 06 release date, which fills me with joy.

[Manny Calavera]

Probably The Boxart
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/727/727550/viva-pinata-20060823111721181.jpg

Couple of new screens from Liepzig
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/727/727550/viva-pinata-20060823111729259.jpg

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/727/727550/viva-pinata-20060823111727462.jpg

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/727/727550/viva-pinata-20060823111725978.jpg

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/727/727550/viva-pinata-20060823111724665.jpg



The first shot really shows off the paper-mache effect, looks really awesome, like the "fur shading" they used in Star Fox Adventures/Conker Live and Reloaded. The 'bad' pinata's are about to eat the sheep/cow thing I guess. I wonder, since I can mail a box back and forth with people on my friends list to trade pinatas and items and stuff, if I can box up all of my bad pinata's and launch an invasion of my friend's garden :confused:

[Addendum]

That pic which may be the boxart looks like the black-lit street fight from Batman Forever.

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah, it does look weird, the colors are wrong and stuff. I just found it in the IGN "new stuff from liepzig" thing and it clearly wasn't the game itself, so I mean, box art is the only thing it could be I guess :confused:

[Drakon]

Jesus, that box art is horrendously ugly.

--Edit: Maybe if someone were to invert the colours?

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah, it is. It wasn't labelled "box art" or anything, but it's obviously not concept art, and it's not a picture from the game, so it pretty much has to be. I don't know what they were thinking, I liked the box art here (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/v/vivapinata/default.htm) better :confused:

[Manny Calavera]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/jcdenton1558/VivaInverted.jpg

Still looks a little off (the 'bad' pinata in the back isn't the right shade, everything's too bright, etc), but at least resembles the actual game. I wonder if someone accidently inverted the colors or something before posting the image :confused:

[Drakon]

I'm not sure. But it seems to work as far as I can tell.

[WhatsHisFace]

That pic which may be the boxart looks like the black-lit street fight from Batman Forever.
Hahahaha, just when I forgot that movie! :D

Yeah, that movie sucked the fat one.

[Manny Calavera]

So WHF, are you buying this, or are you Topdawg: The sequel?

[WhatsHisFace]

Aren't those a bit drastic for a binary future? I mean, can't I just be the Viva Pinataless WHF?

[Manny Calavera]

Viva Pinata. Topdawg: The Next Generation. Those are the options :dry:

[WhatsHisFace]

Okay I'll get the damn game.

Eventually... *sinister laughter.*

[Manny Calavera]

It comes out "eventually", get it then. I'm going to mail you a box of crossbred doomsday pinatas to turn your garden into a pot hole filled waste land.

[WhatsHisFace]

Muahahahah, it's really too bad there aren't guns in this game to kill the evil Pinatas. Don't you have to talk them out of being evil, or something.

[Manny Calavera]

No, you can launch them out of the cannons (I forget what they're called), hopefully at another player's garden but I don't know, just off your island, you can beat them to death with your shovel, build a fence around them and another pinata and then just use your shovel to take away the part of the fence keeping them seperated and have pinata cock fighting, you can build stuff until they're sort of boxed in and have to walk off the island into the water, cross bread some bigger, meaner pinata to just kill them (not the best idea since they can eat the bad candy and become bad themselves), etc. Various options have been talked about/speculated about in various things about the game. I don't think you talk to them though :confused:

[WhatsHisFace]

Oh my gosh, I can't believe this is happening to me. :(

[Manny Calavera]

Buy the game :dry:

[WhatsHisFace]

I'm going to bank on the demo, if there is one. There's just so many places where this game can go horribly, horribly wrong.

I trust the team, oh how I do, but this is just not looking sure-fire.

[Manny Calavera]

1UP still sucks, but it does have some uses. Read this (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3148779&did=1) WHF, this should make you a little more excited about this game and a little less angry about Banjo Threeie.

[WhatsHisFace]

It's a decent read, but I have absolutely no faith in this game.

Peter Moore said two Rare games would be annouced this year. Hopefully at X06 we'll see something that actually has a genre.

[Manny Calavera]

Hopeless, change your avatar :(

[WhatsHisFace]

I forgot about my avatar. :(

I'd just change it to my other Lionhead one. The Christian Bale ones aren't big enough. :(

[Manny Calavera]

GC06: Viva Pinata presentation (http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3393_en.html)

"The Game Convention is now almost over on Xboxyde, so it's time for me to put online this big and long presentation video of Viva Pinata. I've been able to record this footage explaining how the game works, and especially how we are able to get some type of Pinata in our garden. Even if this game is definitely aimed at a younger audience, I was surprised by how complex the interactions between the different types Pinatas could be.
The video can get a bit dark at times, it's completely my fault as I forgot to lock the exposure on my camcorder. It's still very watchable."


HD Cartoon Episode One (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=12691&type=mov&pl=game)

HD Cartoon Episode Two (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=12689&type=mov&pl=game)
(both are also available on Xbox Live Marketplace)

I'll be the first to say "hey, this cartoon sucks and I will not watch it", but it's nice to watch simply because it and the game use the same art assets, and so it's a good example of how visually pleasing the game really is. It also has a few gameplay hints scattered between them, like how to lure in rarer things like a Chewnicorn.

And lastly...
I'm an idiot and heard that the demo was very laggy at that Leipzig thing, is this game going to be delayed/laggy?
No. As BlimBlim (the guy who runs Xboxyde) explains here (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4132143&postcount=53), these huge framerate stutters (which were attacked by people running sites like 1up, because their "gaming journalism" is mostly bull**** and bias) were in fact not because of Viva Pinata, but rather because of the faulty set up of the display units. They had cache writes disabled, while at the same time the nearly finished and smoothly running Viva Pinata kept attempting cache writes, causing the game to occasionally time out, giving way to the stutter you see in some of the liepzig videos.

[Jerry]

Isn't there another game similar to this coming to the 360 as well. I think its called Spore. Except you basically start off by creating a an entire civilization from scratch and build it up into an entire world or something like that. Looks cool, but too bad since Peter Molyneux is making it, it won't be out until the next generation of consoles.

[Fenrir]

Isn't there another game similar to this coming to the 360 as well. I think its called Spore. Except you basically start off by creating a an entire civilization from scratch and build it up into an entire world or something like that. Looks cool, but too bad since Peter Molyneux is making it, it won't be out until the next generation of consoles.

:dry:

Dude, Spore is being made by Will Wright.

[Jerry]

Whatever. I am not too sure about everything about the game, just that its sort of a sim world type deal.

[Shodan]

GDC 06 Video 1 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/xbox360/article/730/730300/vivapinata_02_083106_wmvlowwide.wmv)

GDC 06 Video 2 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/xbox360/article/730/730300/vivapinata_01_083106_wmvlowwide.wmv)

Looking great, and running very smoothly. This is certainly going to make it's Christmas 06 date.

[Horrorfan]

I don't know if it was denton's infectious enthusiasm, but this game is kinda growing on me....

[WhatsHisFace]

Quicktime or bust, sir.

[VicMackey]

GDC 06 Video 1, QT version (http://xbox360movies.ign.com/xbox360/video/article/730/730300/vivapinata_02_083106_qtlowwide.mov)

GDC 06 Video 2, QT version (http://xbox360movies.ign.com/xbox360/video/article/730/730300/vivapinata_01_083106_qtlowwide.mov)

There, watch them. The game doesn't lag at all, much less at the 1-2 frames per second people were claiming after the demo units were all screwed up. And please just give this game a chance Horrorfan, it's going to be fun :(

[WhatsHisFace]

I never thought I'd say this, because I've always wondered "Why don't developers do new genres" but now I'm looking at something made for kids and I don't even understand what to do with it. :(

It looks amazing though. :up:

[AgentDenton]

It does look amazing, the graphics are great. Rare's the undisputed texture king of next-gen. And you have to understand what to do with it by now WHF, think of Animal Crossing or Sim City :(

[WhatsHisFace]

I'll get it during the subsequent game drought.

[Horrorfan]

GDC 06 Video 1, QT version (http://xbox360movies.ign.com/xbox360/video/article/730/730300/vivapinata_02_083106_qtlowwide.mov)

GDC 06 Video 2, QT version (http://xbox360movies.ign.com/xbox360/video/article/730/730300/vivapinata_01_083106_qtlowwide.mov)

There, watch them. The game doesn't lag at all, much less at the 1-2 frames per second people were claiming after the demo units were all screwed up. And please just give this game a chance Horrorfan, it's going to be fun :(

I don't know if your pure enthusiasm wore down my barriers, or made me realise like gammy said that I can be too bull headed sometimes, or if im just dazzeled by the pretty colours, but I am pretty sure I will at least give this game a chance now.

[AgentDenton]

I'll get it during the subsequent game drought.
There shouldn't be a game drought for a while now. Mass Effect and any Christmas slips in the earlier months, I think Blue Dragon is supposed to be getting localized while it's still in development so it should be out by June-Julyish, and then it's the end of the traditional "drought" season anyways. Go preorder :o

[THWIP*]

It does look amazing, the graphics are great. Rare's the undisputed texture king of next-gen. And you have to understand what to do with it by now WHF, think of Animal Crossing or Sim City :(



THE CARTOON PREMIERES TOMORROW. YEEEEHAAAAAWWWW!!

[AgentDenton]

The cartoon is already on Live I think, I posted the videos somewhere in here I think. It's better than most kids shows, but it's still a crappy kids show, it's just less crappy than usual. The good thing though is that the show is using the same art assets as the game itself, (the animation probably isn't as good though), so it provides a nice preview of how the game will look.

[WhatsHisFace]

I think that they're using the same art assets is awesome. It's always wierd when they have a game, and a TV show, and the people look different (Pokemon).

[AgentDenton]

I don't know how a demo would work with this sort of game, but I hope they can release one at X06/TGS on the Marketplace, I need most people are going to need to actually play it to "get it". I just hope it isn't a repeat of Kameo, with a ****ty demo for an awesome game :(

[WhatsHisFace]

The problem with the Kameo demo was that it was a jumbled together action sequence meant to teach the player all of the game mechanics, but it just wasn't that fun.

Should have given us the last battlefield sequence.

[AgentDenton]

They released a new demo that was just a huge battle I think (I don't know, I didn't download it since I had the full game at the time), which they should have done to begin with. No one likes playing tutorials.

[WhatsHisFace]

That's why I never got Civ 4.

[AgentDenton]

Get Civ IV :dry:

[WhatsHisFace]

I want to wait for either C&C 3 or something less turn based for my strategy fix.

[AgentDenton]

So you're getting Civ IV then? :dry:

[WhatsHisFace]

I'm actually thinking of NOT getting Civ 4. AT ALL. Ever.

[AgentDenton]

But you'll get it tomorrow, right?

[WhatsHisFace]

Is that a gun?

[AgentDenton]

X06 can't come soon enough, my threads need new info :(

[WhatsHisFace]

When is X06, a week?

[AgentDenton]

This month, I don't have a date though. I would guess either it or TGS would be next week, hopefully.

[WhatsHisFace]

TGS is going to stink I'm sure of it. It will be PS3 centric, as always, but the PS3 has nothing right now, and wont for two more years.

[WhatsHisFace]

Team Ninja's focus now is just getting DOAX2 out the door, that will be their game on the show floor. Mistwalker just keeps showing the same Blue Dragon footage, even though the game releases in a few months. Capcom will never finish RE5... ugh. Japan is so lousy.

[Mankar Camoran]

Mistwalker will be forced to release more on their games at the show, there simply isn't any other way, the game releases in, at most, 3-4 months, they can't release it on name alone. As for Team Ninja, you may be right, but I'm hoping not. DOAX2 is their soonest to be released game, but they could at least show a movie for one of their other games, or at least define what exactly Code Cronus or Project Progressive are.

[WhatsHisFace]

Seriously. There are so many questions I have about the Team Ninja games that just haven't been answered. Simple things, like the theme, genre, characters, etc...

[Melpomene]

I learned a lot by navingating Dead or Alive wikis :O, especially all the characters

[WhatsHisFace]

Such as?

[Melpomene]

everything :dry:

[WhatsHisFace]

Tell me everything. Starting with genre.

[Melpomene]

Read everything by yourself :cmad:

[WhatsHisFace]

Read everything by yourself :cmad:
Hmmm... I wonder if I'll buy Viva Pinata... maybe hearing some Team Ninja info could convince me...

[BanjoKazooie]

That wasn't me, in case you were trying to use "I might buy Viva" because you thought it was :o

Anyways, Project Progressive is an action game but "not like NG2", that's pretty much all we know about it. Code Cronus is probably an action RPG about Ayane and Hasumi or whatever her name is and why they hate each other or something. That's pretty much all I can give you, and that's only 50% likely to be true :(

[BanjoKazooie]

New (los res) trailer, gameplay footage (http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/c/cdc49c14-b028-4bda-b10e-272642dd16ef/VivaPinata_60_Seconds_360p30_ST_1500kbps.wmv)

[Mr. Credible]

it's a nice looking game... but not my thing. i'll pass.

[WhatsHisFace]

I like this game.

[Conker]

Good, everyone should.

New screens. (http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/817/817355/imgs_1.html)

[CM Punk]

Parts of the TGS Presentation (http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3067_en.html)

EDIT: IGN Hands On From TGS (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/734/734768p1.html). They sound pretty pleased with the game :up:

[CM Punk]

Gamespot TGS 06: Viva Piñata Impressions (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/vivapinata/news.html?sid=6158469&mode=previews&tag=previews;title;4)

[XwolverineX]

Lookin' sexy. :yay:

[Avalanche]

It looks kiddy. :)

[XwolverineX]

It looks kiddy. :)



No, it looks fun. :o

[Avalanche]

No, it looks fun. :o
Sure.

But it 'looks' kiddy.

[CM Punk]

Ocarina of Time looks kiddy, I'm not going to play it. I'd rather play Tony Hawk and Madden games so I can be "mature". Because the "mature" thing to do is to forego fun in favor of image afterall.

[CM Punk]

New awesome video (http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3619_en.html)

They announced Banjo Threeie, you have no excuses WHF :(

[WhatsHisFace]

True, my Rare fan is back in full swing, though I'm really damn pissed there wasn't gameplay, or even actual game graphics (I hope... the style was so... Conker-ish and not Banjo-ish).

[CM Punk]

Pretty good presentation (http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3646_en.html)

[Addendum]

Ocarina of Time looks kiddy, I'm not going to play it. I'd rather play Tony Hawk and Madden games so I can be "mature". Because the "mature" thing to do is to forego fun in favor of image afterall.
Though if one cares about image, then they wouldn't touch video games

[CM Punk]

Because video games haven't become a very popular pass time like movies or television that pretty much everyone touches in one way or another, with games like Madden or GTA, right?

[Addendum]

Who gives a damn about what is popular or what everyone else touches? Shouldn't the games that someone enjoys playing be good enough?

Even if it's just a GTA clone or NFL Roster Update by EA.

[CM Punk]

I'm thinking this conversation has gone totally over your head if that is your response :dry:

[WhatsHisFace]

:(... :(

[Addendum]

If someone wants to play a game rated E, great. Have fun.

If someone else wants to play a game rated M, great. Have fun.

[블라스]

I think CM Punk's point is that some people (mostly teenagers) put down games like 'Viva Pinata' (without actually playing them) just because they look kiddy, and would rather play something like GTA, not because of actual gameplay, but because it has blood and hookers and all that.

[Addendum]

But when you grow out of your teenage years, teenagers don't matter

[CM Punk]

I really hate when people try to be profound, but end up being dumb, usually saying something totally irrelevant or nonsensical. Teenagers don't matter if you're not a teenager.......so when they say stupid things, or do stupid things, you ignore that it's happening. That's great.

[블라스]

But when you grow out of your teenage years, teenagers don't matter

That's true, but that's not the point :huh:

[Addendum]

I laugh at them and continue on with my life. The same applies for everyone else.

[WhatsHisFace]

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1251/Viva-Piata/p1/

Team Xbox reviewed Viva Pinata, gave it an 8.4

[Axid]

IGN gave it an 8.5

Not bad












































for a kiddy game :cmad:


I kid :p












































:ninja:

[WhatsHisFace]

Eh, at least Gears of War was good.

[Spidey-Bat]

There should be a Gears of War/Viva Pinata cross-over game.

[WhatsHisFace]

I agree. Gears of War is so awesome, I'd love to grow a garden that would attract the Cogs, or have a shooter where I chainsaw the crappy games Rare's made.

[Tetragrammaton]

I've taken some time to read back through this thread, and it's really kind of depressing.
We have a moron who's best defense in an argument isn't a fact, or even the usual "ass backwards logic and lies" that you see on here so often, but incoherent nonsense about a skirt and being a "fairy queen".

It reminds me of when I was in the 2nd grade, there was this kid named Ryan, and to get under his skin, we'd all say "she" instead of "he" when referring to him, or tell him to go play with his dolls. I can't remember a single one of us doing anything like that past the 2nd grade.

We have a moron who is proven wrong time and time again, who is owned repeatedly, who is incapable of simply bowing out gracefully and saying "you're right, I'm dumb". As a matter of fact, he can't even do the usual "disappear from the thread for a week or two" act. But what he can do, is fill the thread with more of his mental diarrhea, more incoherent grade school nonsense.

And it only gets worse when the idiot starts ranting on about how overrated a decade old game is, by comparing it to the games of today, and yet somehow manages to evade all the posts that explain why this is stupid, repeating the same crap over and over and over again, as if he doesn't understand how someone could disagree, as if the problem is that we simply didn't understand him the first time.

And all of this, at the time, was very frustrating to me. I've never really developed the ability to tolerate people who are just incredibly stupid the way some of the other long-timers here have. Where as some of you might be able to overlook someone being an idiot and whoring out a mediocre FPS at every chance in favor of being nice because he types the same boring, meaningless apology for being so stupid every time one of you makes an issue about it, I usually can not. So of course, seeing another person being so incredibly stupid got to me.

But after all of that stupidity, you know what the most frustrating thing is? It's seeing this thread bumped, months later, with news of two great reviews...and people still saying that Rare is making crappy games. Their last four games have been very well received, and generally very fun...so they suck? Die WHF :down




Anyways, I didn't get to pick my copy up today, but I did get to play it with my friend, and it's a very well made game. It looks fantastic, better than GoW IMO (unless you put Gears on "vibrant", which looks awesome and should be what everyone is using btw), and it's actually a pretty deep game. I can see myself still playing this game and seeing new content by next month, which is pretty rare for videogames these days. The way they start you off is kind of boring, they probably should have let you use a premade garden instead of making you do everything from scratch, but after about an hour it's pretty good.

[Horrorfan]

I'd like a demo of this.....Im strapped for cash right now, but this looks nice and the more I hear the more interested I am....a demo would be a decider I think.

[Tetragrammaton]

A demo wouldn't really work. It'd be like trying to do an Oblivion demo. And even if they manage to pull off a miracle like they did with Dead Rising and do a demo, I don't think it'd be a good idea. The game isn't that fun until you get the ground work stuff done, which means the demo would probably end right as the game becomes enjoyable.

[WhatsHisFace]

Die WHF :down

I thought you were talking about Horrorfan that whole post! :wow:

[Tetragrammaton]

You both received mention...now stop hating Rare :(

[WhatsHisFace]

I told you, my emotion toward Rare is on hold until I play Banjo Kazooie 3. That is going to be the deciding factor on whether I love them or not, because honestly, my love of Rare started with Banjo, even if the seeds were planted with DKC, so that's where it will return when the time is right.

They are not allowed to mess it up. Banjo is holy ground to me.

[Tetragrammaton]

So I just got back home from picking up my own copies of Viva Pinata and Gears of War CE from EB games, but I haven't opened them yet, I'll probably play them later tonight/tomorrow. Viva Pinata has a really weird case though :confused:

[WhatsHisFace]

I'm so hungry... must eat breakfast...