Alan Wake.

[WhatsHisFace]

Who? Remedy, the developer behind the highly successful and celebrated Max Payne titles.

What? Alan Wake, a psychological thriller (think Max Payne's dream sequences) with an interesting "Am I insane" story in which you can expect a fantastic twist, perhaps that there is no twist.

Where? Published by Microsoft, you can expect this to be Xbox360 only until way down the line someone ports it to Microsoft Vista.

When? Before Halo 3, but your guess is as good as mine. It's expected very early next year, but Remedy did blow Max Payne 1's deadline by four years. (Max Payne 2 arrived early though, so don't try to guess).

Why? Classic action/adventure gameplay, an incredible "Silent Hill" meets "Amber" type story, probably existencial philosophy knowing Remedy, and...

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[Manny Calavera]

Yeah, this game looks pretty good, a thousand times better than that Resistance crap :down:o

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah, this game looks pretty good, a thousand times better than that Resistance crap :down:o
Resistance has to compete with Bioshock, being as they're both time-period pieces of shooter/RPGs. (Sony loses)

Killzone has to compete with Halo. (LOL)

Sony's competition for this game is probably Silent Hill 5, even though that will be on the 360 as well. So basically, this just crushes the PS3 just because it can, or wants to. No competition for this baby, at least none we know of.

[Manny Calavera]

Hahaha, Resistance vs Bioshock, what a joke :D



Anyways, yeah, I forgot about this game for a while, then thought it would suck, but I'm pretty happy about it now, I think it's going to kick ass. I'm erratic like that.

[THWIP*]

Hahaha, Resistance vs Bioshock, what a joke :D



Anyways, yeah, I forgot about this game for a while, then thought it would suck, but I'm pretty happy about it now, I think it's going to kick ass. I'm erratic like that.



I WAS JUST TALKING WITH BLAS ABOUT THAT VERY THING, LAST NIGHT. :dry:

[WhatsHisFace]

Hahaha, Resistance vs Bioshock, what a joke :D



Anyways, yeah, I forgot about this game for a while, then thought it would suck, but I'm pretty happy about it now, I think it's going to kick ass. I'm erratic like that.
It will actually kick ass. Remedy is an awesome developer, and this time, their writer was in on the game concept, so he's basically set free. He's a darn good writer, and he's not pidgeonholed into a Matrix-styled gun game, so this game WILL have an amazing story.

[Manny Calavera]

The graphics are nice, is it another UE3.0 title?

[WhatsHisFace]

The graphics are nice, is it another UE3.0 title?
No actually. Remedy has great programmers. It's all proprietary except for the physics, which of course, are Havok.

But man, this is a great looking game. If Mass Effect didn't exist, I'd say it was the best looking game out there (it's a freeroaming world, remember. This graphically competes with GTA games, not Gears of War games with smaller areas).

[Manny Calavera]

That last shot looks...wrong, I don't know what it is, but it just looks more "fake" than the other pictures, I can't put my finger on why :confused:

The bridge shot is fantastic though, nearly photorealistic.

[WhatsHisFace]

That last shot looks...wrong, I don't know what it is, but it just looks more "fake" than the other pictures, I can't put my finger on why :confused:

The bridge shot is fantastic though, nearly photorealistic.
The paint on the banister and the house is perfect, while the paint on the porch is cracked and dry. Also, the doors look wierd until you realise they're windowed doors with ray-traced shadows on them.

[Horrorfan]

This game will rock when it eventually comes out.

[Manny Calavera]

The paint on the banister and the house is perfect, while the paint on the porch is cracked and dry. Also, the doors look wierd until you realise they're windowed doors with ray-traced shadows on them.
No, I think it's that certain parts of the picture look photorealistic like the rest of the shots, but then some parts just...don't, it's like two different sets of art assets were just mixed together for that :confused:

[Addendum]

I'm sold on this game, Bioshock and GTA4.

I'll wait for a pricedrop on the 360, then I'll buy it.

[Mentok]

Another reason to get a 360 :up:

[XwolverineX]

I'm sold on this game, Bioshock and GTA4.

I'll wait for a pricedrop on the 360, then I'll buy it.


Mass Effect, Gears of War, Halo 3, Fable 2... Get ready.

[Addendum]

Gears of War and Mass Effect are maybes.

I have yet to play Fable 1, even though I bought it a month ago.

As for Halo, I'm still on Halo 1 and need to find a reason to continue playing it.

[XwolverineX]

Gears of War and Mass Effect are maybes.

I have yet to play Fable 1, even though I bought it a month ago.

As for Halo, I'm still on Halo 1 and need to find a reason to continue playing it.


Mass Effect and Gears of War both look unbelievable, especially Mass Effect. Go play Fable now, it's really good, but Fable 2 will be even better. And a reason to play Halo is that it kicks ass. :confused::up:

[Addendum]

Halo looks cool, but the story bores me.

[Manny Calavera]

The target audience for American Idol reveals itself...

[THWIP*]

The target audience for American Idol reveals itself...


OUCH.......THAT WAS A BIT HARSH. :O


:p

[Addendum]

The target audience for American Idol reveals itself...
What is American Idol :confused:

And I've gotten tired of playing games where I have to "save humanity"

[Manny Calavera]

Because that's the entire game and story. Master Chief on one end of the field, an elite on the other, and a big waving flag that says "kill him to save humanity!". Nope, nothing else there, nothing at all :dry:

[Addendum]

Oh, I forget. Because everyone else likes the damn game means that I HAVE TO like it.

Even though I've lost interest in it.

[hippie_hunter]

That game sure looks pretty graphically

[Manny Calavera]

No, it's just nice to hear actual reasons instead of "I'm sick of stories where there's a person and he has a goal but there's something standing in the way, you know, ALL stories" or Gamera's famous "I don't like alien guns". It'd be like me saying I hate grand theft auto games because of the box art.

[블라스]

I'm famous :O

[Manny Calavera]

I'm famous :O
For hating a future classic because of alien guns :(

[Addendum]

If you don't like GTA because of the box art, I don't care. That has no effect at all on my enjoyment of the games.

Aside from gameplay elements in Halo which are cool, like actually having a limit to the amount of weapons you can carry, the story hasn't hooked me.

The gameplay may be amazing, the graphics may be jaw-dropping, but if the story doesn't hook me then I stop playing.

[블라스]

Still famous!
And I'll get Halo 3 if it's good.

[Manny Calavera]

Hopeless :dry:

And yes, you'll get Halo 3, because it'll be 10/10 and because I want to use a shotgun on your face over the internet :O

[블라스]

Good enough :O

[WhatsHisFace]

Does anyone know if Alan Wake will be at X06?

30000th post! Woot!

[AgentDenton]

It should be, X06 should be Microsoft pulling out all the stops, and since this is 2nd party, it should be a given that it'll be there. X06 is Microsoft's chance to execute Sony before they launch. Come on Shenmue III exclusive, I know you'll be there...

[THWIP*]

Does anyone know if Alan Wake will be at X06?

30000th post! Woot!


IF IT ISN'T, I'M FLYING TO REDMOND, AND BURNING DOWN THE 'MS' HQ. :marv:

[WhatsHisFace]

It should be, X06 should be Microsoft pulling out all the stops, and since this is 2nd party, it should be a given that it'll be there. X06 is Microsoft's chance to execute Sony before they launch. Come on Shenmue III exclusive, I know you'll be there...
Shenmue 3, I hate to say, is less likely to happen than the return of Steve Irwin.

[Addendum]

Impatiently waiting for Alan Wake...

[AgentDenton]

Shenmue 3, I hate to say, is less likely to happen than the return of Steve Irwin.
I await it's announcement at every gaming convention, it's something I've been doing since 2002, let me be :(

[WhatsHisFace]

I await it's announcement at every gaming convention, it's something I've been doing since 2002, let me be :(
What a horrible existence. They had a few areas, but ended development.

You can thank Sony for that.

[Addendum]

I saw a copy of Shenmue 2 at Gamestop 2 weeks ago

I passed over it and got both Fatal Frames and both Max Paynes.

[AgentDenton]

Which is why satan will laugh as he boils your testicles in hell.

[Addendum]

I don't have a Dreamcast with a copy of Shenmue. And I don't like jumping into a series with the second game

[AgentDenton]

It has a DVD that explains everything to you. Enjoy your date with satan, you passed up your only chance at salvation, sucker :dry:

[Addendum]

I don't want a DVD that explains everything. I want to play the first game and experience it for myself.

Since I'm an atheist, salvation is a meaningless concept

[AgentDenton]

Dreamcasts are like, $10, and so is a copy of Shenmue. No excuses, only hell fire.

[Addendum]

There aren't any at gamestop, and I just need a Dreamcast, a memory card, and a copy of Shenmue.

All the ebay auctions have other **** I don't need or want.

And to quote Iron Maiden

"Hell ain't a bad place
Hell is from here to eternity"

[AgentDenton]

If they include a dreamcast, VMU memory card, and a copy of Shenmue, other stuff you don't need or want is acceptable.

[Addendum]

But I just want Shenmue. I don't want Sonic, Grandia, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, NFL2K, NBA2K, NHL2K, Soul Calibur, or other Dreamcast games :(

[AgentDenton]

You actually do want all those games, since they help you along towards your goal of playing Shenmue and not sucking off the devil in the after life. Anyways, Alan Wake, how do I play it? So far, all I know about it is that it looks pretty, do I actually do anything in the game? :confused:

[Addendum]

Alan Wake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Wake)

[THE LIZARD#1]

Why did we lose this game:( Damn you Sony, these are some of the most impressive graphics I have ever seen!

[WhatsHisFace]

Microsoft stole Alan Wake, Sony stole Heavenly Sword.

Microsoft made the much better move, but they have more experience with this kind of thing.

[WhatsHisFace]

Microsoft stole Alan Wake, Sony stole Heavenly Sword.

Microsoft made the much better move, but they have more experience with this kind of thing.

[THE LIZARD#1]

^hahahahahahah

Thats awesome, but wait I thought Heavenly Sword was always an exclusive. Dude how come Sony doesn't do the exclusive games, they are jackassess and give up some sweet games to Microsoft.

I mean Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's Creed, Alan Wake ect. Why won't they grow a back bone and tell them to screw off?

[WhatsHisFace]

What do you mean?

[Mentok]

^hahahahahahah


I mean Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's Creed, Alan Wake ect. Why won't they grow a back bone and tell them to screw off?

JESUS ****ING CHRIST :rolleyes:

[THWIP*]

^hahahahahahah

Thats awesome, but wait I thought Heavenly Sword was always an exclusive. Dude how come Sony doesn't do the exclusive games, they are jackassess and give up some sweet games to Microsoft.

I mean Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's Creed, Alan Wake ect. Why won't they grow a back bone and tell them to screw off?


BECAUSE THE "EXCLUSIVE FAIRY" HAS IT IN FOR 'SONY'..........IT'S A PERSONAL THING BETWEEN HER, AND KRAZY KEN. :dry:

[Zenien]

Have we seen much of this game beyond the E3 stuff from like 2 years ago? Any interviews, details on the game system?

Microsoft stole Alan Wake, Sony stole Heavenly Sword.

Microsoft made the much better move, but they have more experience with this kind of thing.

I just need to correct you here and say that Heavenly Sword was never planned as an Xbox 360 release, they severed ties with Microsoft prior to the project starting.

[THWIP*]

Have we seen much of this game beyond the E3 stuff from like 2 years ago? Any interviews, details on the game system?



I just need to correct you here and say that Heavenly Sword was never planned as an Xbox 360 release, they severed ties with Microsoft prior to the project starting.


...AND HAVE BEEN REGRETTING IT EVER SINCE, MOST LIKELY. :o

[Zenien]

They went with Sony because Sony offered them total development freedom and support, other publishers like Microsoft didn't, so I highly doubt the devs have regretted their decision to go with Sony.

[Fenrir]

Too bad their game doesn't look half as intriguing as Alan Wake so I doubt Microsoft has lost any sleep over it.

[THE LIZARD#1]

What do you mean?

What i'm trying to say is, Xbox has all of these amazing games like Halo, Gears of War, Alan Wake, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Condemned, Bio Shock*Maybe* ect.

Then Sony gets games like Assassin's Creed and its cool to have an exclusive because Xbox has so many of them and thats what makes a system sell, look at the Xbox I wonder where it would be if it didn't have the amazing exclusive known to mankind as Halo.

My point being, Sony needs to fight back and secure some games, not allow them to go over to 360. I mean when we found out Assassin's Creed was going over to 360 so many people were like, hey I can just buy a 360 and not wait for that awesome game on PS3.

Sony needs to have an awesome exclusive to really bring over the fans, I can already think of one game:D But thats not what we are talking about.

[XwolverineX]

Yeah, Lizard, you have to buy a 360. Are you honestly going to miss out on: Halo 3, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Alan Wake, Bioshock and Fable 2?

[THE LIZARD#1]

^I really don't like you:( Way to kick me in the nuts when i'm already down.
















































:D

[Horrorfan]

Lizard, just buy a 360. It has the best exclusives, is cheaper and wont make you buy a blu ray player you don't need. not to mention games will be cheaper. so assasins creed on 360 will be $60 (i think thats the price for games in the us right?) and for ps3, $70 plus dollars.


Just think about it logically.

Honestly, Im not saying this to spite ya dude, i like you, but Resistance won't be anything more than a generic fps that everyone will have forgotten about by the time halo 3 roles around.

then you have the unsurpassed 360 exclusives....dead rising, lost planet, alan wake, halo 3, gears of war, bioshock, crackdown, smackdown vs raw 2007.

Then you have great multiplatform games that look no different but are cheaper on 360 like alone in the dark, resident evil 5, , frontlines fuel of war, splinter cell, the darkness, interstellar marines,etc.


You really have to question your loyalty when sony's best awnser to the excellent exclusives is god of war with a chick and a sub splinter cell spy series and super generic fps.


not to mention sony dont even have timed excluisivty on assasins creed and gta4, and they will both be cheaper on 360.

Honestly? Unless you are dead set on getting any of the sony exclusives (which imo arent very good at all) then I dont see any advantage of waiting for a ps3.

[Axid]

look at the Xbox I wonder where it would be if it didn't have the amazing exclusive known to mankind as Halo.
Halo is not Xbox exclusive :dry:

[AgentDenton]

Yes it is. The series doesn't get released onto the PC for a looooooong time, I mean, Halo 3 is likely to be gearing up for a release by the time Halo 2 vista comes out, that's not multi-platform, that's releasing bargain bin PC titles when you have no use for the real version anymore. Kind of like how you can go to target and find copies of Sonic the Hedgehog or the original Resident Evil on PC.

[Axid]

It's still not exclusive :o

[Fenrir]

Honestly, Im not saying this to spite ya dude, i like you, but Resistance won't be anything more than a generic fps that everyone will have forgotten about by the time halo 3 roles around.


Heh, Gears of War has already made Resistance obsolete. Halo 3 will only mutilate it's corpse. :)

[AgentDenton]

It's still not exclusive :o
Yes it is. That'd be like someone saying that Nintendo has never had an exclusive game in their entire history until the Wii, since all of their past exclusives will be on it. There's a cut off point between "port" and "cheap cash in hand me down" :o

[Axid]

Its still not exclusive :o

[AgentDenton]

Its still not exclusive :o
Yes it is. That'd be like someone saying that Nintendo has never had an exclusive game in their entire history until the Wii, since all of their past exclusives will be on it. There's a cut off point between "port" and "cheap cash in hand me down" :o

[Axid]

.............







































It's still not exclusive :o

[WhatsHisFace]

Have we seen much of this game beyond the E3 stuff from like 2 years ago? Any interviews, details on the game system?
No, after it was announced by Remedy, it disappeared because Microsoft was working on getting it, and now Microsoft has it and they're waiting to "unveil" it.

It hasn't been displayed since the Microsoft deal, and may not for a while.

I just need to correct you here and say that Heavenly Sword was never planned as an Xbox 360 release, they severed ties with Microsoft prior to the project starting.
The game was on development on a PC since devkits weren't out but was expected to go to both consoles. It unquestionably would have had Sony not picked it up.

I think Sony made a mistake. They should have gotten something from a better developer.

They went with Sony because Sony offered them total development freedom and support, other publishers like Microsoft didn't, so I highly doubt the devs have regretted their decision to go with Sony.
Maybe that's because they messed up their first Xbox game horrendously. I have read interviews from developers and they have all said Microsoft was a joy to work with, Epic, Lionhead, Bioware, tons of XBLA developers, etc.

So basically, if they're having problems with MS, it has to be because they really suck. Their last game was horrible.

Not that I care, because Heavenly Sword looks like garbage, especially compared to Too Human, but you obviously care, so you need to know.

[THE LIZARD#1]

Lizard, just buy a 360. It has the best exclusives, is cheaper and wont make you buy a blu ray player you don't need. not to mention games will be cheaper. so assasins creed on 360 will be $60 (i think thats the price for games in the us right?) and for ps3, $70 plus dollars.


Just think about it logically.

Honestly, Im not saying this to spite ya dude, i like you, but Resistance won't be anything more than a generic fps that everyone will have forgotten about by the time halo 3 roles around.

then you have the unsurpassed 360 exclusives....dead rising, lost planet, alan wake, halo 3, gears of war, bioshock, crackdown, smackdown vs raw 2007.

Then you have great multiplatform games that look no different but are cheaper on 360 like alone in the dark, resident evil 5, , frontlines fuel of war, splinter cell, the darkness, interstellar marines,etc.


You really have to question your loyalty when sony's best awnser to the excellent exclusives is god of war with a chick and a sub splinter cell spy series and super generic fps.


not to mention sony dont even have timed excluisivty on assasins creed and gta4, and they will both be cheaper on 360.

Honestly? Unless you are dead set on getting any of the sony exclusives (which imo arent very good at all) then I dont see any advantage of waiting for a ps3.

Very good points, I don't know I might buy a 360, I think it would be cool to play against all of you guys. However I'm still leaning towards a PS3 but not by much anymore.

And Horrorfan I know you aren't bashing Resistance to hurt me like most people so thats cool:D

I guess only time will tell if I end up with a 360 or a PS3.

[XwolverineX]

Lizard, I don't know how much money you have, but buy a 360 this christmas, and a PS3 after a price drop. MGS4, DMC4 and FFXIII are the big 3 for PS3, and they all look to be releasing somewhere along the expected price drop. And 'till then, you have Mass Effect, Lost Planet and Gears of mother ****ing War. 3 omg AAA games for 360. PS3 won't have that untilll next holiday season. Not to mention Oblivion..

[WhatsHisFace]

The PS3 won't be a good console until Ico does something.

[AgentDenton]

Good consoles need more than a good game :(

[Zenien]

WHF, You've never even played ICO OR Shadow of the Colossus :dry:

Very good points, I don't know I might buy a 360, I think it would be cool to play against all of you guys. However I'm still leaning towards a PS3 but not by much anymore.

And Horrorfan I know you aren't bashing Resistance to hurt me like most people so thats cool:D

I guess only time will tell if I end up with a 360 or a PS3.

Lizard: Just going to have to point out, Horrorfan said two things that were incorrect:

1. (although why in gods name this game would be worthy of mention) Smackdown Versus Raw 07 is not a 360 exclusive.

2. There's no proof that PS3 games are going to cost more then 360 games. Zip, nadda, zilch.

[WhatsHisFace]

WHF, You've never even played ICO OR Shadow of the Colossus :dry:
I'm sorry. :( I watched a lot of gameplay vids. :(


Lizard: Just going to have to point out, Horrorfan said two things that were incorrect:

1. (although why in gods name this game would be worthy of mention) Smackdown Versus Raw 07 is not a 360 exclusive.
Isn't it a next-gen exclusive though? No PS3 version.


2. There's no proof that PS3 games are going to cost more then 360 games. Zip, nadda, zilch.
There's no proof, just the logic, since Blu-Ray disks are more expensive than DVDs, and because Phil(e) Harrison or someone like him said something about $70 games.

[Horrorfan]

Actually, zenien, seems to me you were dancing around the fact that ps3 will NOT get smackdown vs raw this year, and probably no new installment till the next installment. So the ONLY place to play next gen smackdown is 360 for at least a year.

And the reason it's ''worthy of mention'' is because that it sold like hotcakes and was one of ps2's biggest selling franchises. I thought you of all people would know that.

See a lot of people think I am a sony hater....but I just hate the fact they treat the customers like idiots who buy their lies, and people like zenien, who should know better, just make excuses for them, and try to force feed people the lies.. It's like the blind leading the blind.


If PS3 honestly had more advantages over 360, I would mention them. But so far, they have much worse games (IMO anyway), its double the price, its forcing an uneeded blu ray player onto you, and when head honchos at sony say the games will cost more than $60 but slightly less than $100, well that should be proof in itself.

I am a damn proud owner of a psone, which was genius on the part of sony and is responsible for game's evolution into what it is today. I own a ps2 which I love and it had great exclusives (God of War, Ghost Hunter, all the Smackdown games, the definitive version of RE4, etc). I love my psp too.....while nintendo keeps making refined game boy advances with gimicks, sony squashed a whole ps2 onto a handheld whjich was an amazing achievement. So if PS3 was a console worth a damn, I would say so.

But the fact is, it isn't. It's just an overpriced excuse to get blu ray into peoples homes.




zenien, why dont you tell lizard about this 4d stuff krayzy ken was talking about?

[TheCardPlayer]

1. (although why in gods name this game would be worthy of mention) Smackdown Versus Raw 07 is not a 360 exclusive.

It is. PS3 will only get 2008.

[Zenien]

The PS2 version is identical in every way except for the graphics, and it's not like the 360 version is anything but a port up, not an entirely new version or a graphical landmark.

[Zenien]

Actually, zenien, seems to me you were dancing around the fact that ps3 will NOT get smackdown vs raw this year, and probably no new installment till the next installment. So the ONLY place to play next gen smackdown is 360 for at least a year.

A next gen exlusive of what amounts to a port of the PS2 version.

See a lot of people think I am a sony hater....but I just hate the fact they treat the customers like idiots who buy their lies, and people like zenien, who should know better, just make excuses for them, and try to force feed people the lies.. It's like the blind leading the blind.

I agreeds with a lot of what you said abotu the PS3 situation and Sony treating the customers badly relative to Nintendo and Microsoft (but we're just cattle to Microsoft as well, and Nintendo to a degree), but when it comes to this whole attacking me part, you're way off.


zenien, why dont you tell lizard about this 4d stuff krayzy ken was talking about?

Hey Horrorfan how about you grow a brain? I'm not a slave to Sony, moron.

[Horrorfan]

The PS2 version is identical in every way except for the graphics, and it's not like the 360 version is anything but a port up, not an entirely new version or a graphical landmark.

It would be like choosing to play the original pong over rockstar's table tennis in terms of graphics though.

And as far as I know , the new fighting mechanics are only on 360 too (using anologue for grappels and whatnot).

Why do you always defend sony like a mindless zombie?

The FACT is, OF all the next gen consoles, the only one getting a next gen smackdown. The others are all marked downs.

[Fenrir]

Hey Horrorfan how about you grow a brain? I'm not a slave to Sony, moron.

*looks at Zenien's custom title*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D

[Zenien]

It would be like choosing to play the original pong over rockstar's table tennis in terms of graphics though.

Hyperbole much?

And as far as I know , the new fighting mechanics are only on 360 too (using anologue for grappels and whatnot).

Quick check confirms both versions use it.

The FACT is, OF all the next gen consoles, the only one getting a next gen smackdown. The others are all marked downs.

WHich doesn't mean much with the PS2 constantly outselling the 360 on a worldwide basis + in America (obviously) each and every month. The next gen exclusive of Smackdown is going to make no difference and it's not even worth mentioning as a 'exclusive'. It's a trash game anyway.

[Horrorfan]

I agreeds with a lot of what you said abotu the PS3 situation and Sony treating the customers badly relative to Nintendo and Microsoft (but we're just cattle to Microsoft as well, and Nintendo to a degree), but when it comes to this whole attacking me part, you're way off.




Hey Horrorfan how about you grow a brain? I'm not a slave to Sony, moron.

If anything,, the ps2 version is a marked down port of the 360 version..


You ARE a slave to sony. In fact, part of me wonders if sony hasn't ****ed up deliberatly partially to see if you will still stay loyal to them (and you did). You defend EVERY SINGLE BAD DECISION sony makes. You defend every **** up, every incident of treating its customers (including you) like an idiot. If that doesnt make you sony's butt*****, what does?


What is disappointing about you is I KNOW you're not an idiot. I know your not a topdawg esque braindead moron, which makes your excusing them time after time inexcusible. Maybe you genuinely dont see how you come off as sony's butt monkey. But I like to think you're more intelligent than that.

Maybe we are cattle ot ms and mnintendo too. but at least they pretend t o care about us. at least they dont seem outright arrogant and contempuous of us. and at least they donty treat us like idiots. That, my sweet zenien, is the difference.

[Horrorfan]

WHich doesn't mean much with the PS2 constantly outselling the 360 ona worldwide basis and in America each and every month. The next gen exclusive of Smackdown is going to make no difference and it's not even worth mentioning as a 'exclusive'.

You don't say einstien. But how long has ps2 been out again? it has a bigger libary and is much cheaper and has been out FAR longer. In that case, let's just say that x box 360 is outselling ps3 right now.

[WhatsHisFace]

WHich doesn't mean much with the PS2 constantly outselling the 360 on a worldwide basis + in America (obviously) each and every month.
Which doesn't mean much with the PS2 being a third the cost and with the 360 having fewer big hits over the summer. We'll be seeing 360 sales pick up before too long.

[WhatsHisFace]

Hey dooshes.

http://sithgamer.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/interview-with-robbie-bach/

Alan Wake will be at CES.

Thank you for being a doosh.

[ProjectPat2280]

Hey dooshes.

http://sithgamer.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/interview-with-robbie-bach/

Alan Wake will be at CES.

Thank you for being a doosh.


Holy *****...... i still say this game is never coming out.

Cool read tho, loved how MS views the Wii.

[WhatsHisFace]

"OLY BOBOOBOBOBOBOBO it iss!!!!! it even has cloud stirfe in it so PS3 fans will JERK IT BABY!!!

[ProjectPat2280]

"OLY BOBOOBOBOBOBOBO it iss!!!!! it even has cloud stirfe in it so PS3 fans will JERK IT BABY!!!


Hmm, nope, its still not gonna make it to consoles.......but i really, really, really want it to.

Did i mention that i really want this game to come out?

[WhatsHisFace]

The game is published by Microsoft themselves, which suggests that it's probably in cross-platform development right now. I'm sure it's doing just fine, in both versions.

[ProjectPat2280]

The game is published by Microsoft themselves, which suggests that it's probably in cross-platform development right now. I'm sure it's doing just fine, in both versions.


Well, im gonna go out on a limb and take your word for it....maybe.

[WhatsHisFace]

Microsoft is known for getting things done. Crimson Skies, Brute Force, Fable... all looked like vaporware at one point. Yet here they are.

B.C. was their only real **** up. :(

[GFreeman]

And Duality.

[WhatsHisFace]

Duality was Phantagram. Microsoft didn't start getting in touch with Phantagram/Blueside until they wanted Kingdom Under Fire on the console...

I'm pissed about Strident, too. That looked awesome. :(

[GFreeman]

Strident and Duality, I remember those being all the rage...and then they just sorta disappeared. That, and I think Citizen Zero. Those were the games that originally got me hyped and not a single one of them showed up :csad:

[WhatsHisFace]

Citizen Zero was just an MMORPG with a good-evil gimmick with a Mass-Effect style universe. I don't think it would have been as good as Fable or KotOR.

Strident and Duality, however, looked amazing. Strident was like a cyberpunk Ninja Gaiden with incredible lighting, and Duality was looking like Korea's attempt at an Ion-Storm type game. It was like Anachronox with real-time combat. :(

[GFreeman]

At least Bloodwake and Wreckless came out...

[WhatsHisFace]

I'm so happy we got Azurik too. That game would have been so good with a complete overhaul from a company who could design a good control scheme. And some serious QA testing.

[Dark_Lord]

The official site (http://www.alanwake.com/) has been updated with some new pics and a new trailer.

[BizarroAids]

The official site (http://www.alanwake.com/) has been updated with some new pics and a new trailer.

Trailer looks fantastic!! That really is quite photo-realistic. Glad to see this game didn't get canned. When is the official release date?

[ProjectPat2280]

Trailer looks fantastic!! That really is quite photo-realistic. Glad to see this game didn't get canned. When is the official release date?

No official release date at the moment, at least i havent heard of one.

[Dark Victory]

God I've been waiting four years for this game. Hopefully, it will all pay off "when it's done."

[ProjectPat2280]

Guess this thread can finally be bumped.

Here is a hands on from IGN:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/989/989278p1.html

[KevanG]

At least it's not like Duke Nukem Forever :p

[ProjectPat2280]

Haha. Vapor ware? Not this, hah.

[Timstuff]

Looks kind of like what I wanted Resident Evil 5 to be. Hopefully, by some miracle my laptop is capable of running it the PC version (assuming that the PC version hasn't been canned)...

[ProjectPat2280]

I wanna know if its still has the open world feel to it. I remember early reports saying the game was gonna be really open. Wonder if thats still intact.

[[A]]

That 5min video from IGN looks great. I also been waiting for this game.. too bad I won't be able to play it :hehe:............:csad:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm dying to get this game after seeing the E3 demo. I love noirish stories and really immersive gameplay, and Alan Wake looks poised to deliver both really well.

[Dark Victory]

Finally after waiting almost three years. Of course, right after we get footage my xbox dies. :cmad:

[ProjectPat2280]

Finally after waiting almost three years. Of course, right after we get footage my xbox dies. :cmad:

Better now than right before the game comes out, haha.

[MetalGear7]

Alan Wake looks more like Alone in the Dark with its importance on light, and frankly that game just sucked....so if that game is similar we can only hope for average at best

[Teardrop]

Well Alone In The Dark use to be quite good back in the day, so that's not so bad. Plus, the playable demo at the conference we saw already seemed better then the newest Alone In The Dark

[KevanG]

Finally after waiting almost three years. Of course, right after we get footage my xbox dies. :cmad:

Same here, I feel your pain :(

[Paradyme]

I can't remember if I posted this already or thought of posting it but Alan Wake will be everything Alone in the Dark wasn't.

[TheCorpulent1]

As I recall, the vast majority of problems with Alone in the Dark were the crappy controls and buggy, unfinished nature of the game as a whole. Alan Wake doesn't seem to be buggy and I haven't noticed any complaints from hands-on articles about the controls.
Finally after waiting almost three years. Of course, right after we get footage my xbox dies. :cmad:
Wow, I guess it's good that I totally forgot Alan Wake existed before seeing that footage, then. It was just a cool new game to me until I started reading about how it'd been in development hell for years, which jogged my memory of hearing something about it a long time ago.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Lots of bad people seem to be tossing at this game just because of the Alone in the Dark comparisons.

Which is unfair, I think.

[Teardrop]

Especially since Alone In The Dark use to be pretty good for it's time and has a really cool idea behind it. Though I guess only people seem to know about the new one :/

[TheCorpulent1]

I've been seeing more "Silent Hill but better" comparisons than Alone in the Dark ones, to be honest. Which is pretty good.

[Teardrop]

I hadn't even thought of Silent Hill to be honest, but the story does kind of seem like one that would come from those games. Tormented horror writer apparently with wifey problems having to live through his own nightmarish writings.

[TheCorpulent1]

The comparisons with Alone in the Dark seem kind of silly anyway. What similarities are there, really, beyond it's dark, you play as some everyman dude, and scary s*** happens? That's basically every survival horror game ever.

[Teardrop]

I think it's mostly the way you use light in Alan Wake. From the demo it looked as if light was a weakness for the creatures (or whatever you were fighting) since you were fighting with a gun and a flashlight. That's pretty much how the Alone in the Dark mechanic always worked

[TheCorpulent1]

Ah, I see. I never played past like 5 minutes into the demo. Even the demo was buggy as hell.

[Teardrop]

Yeah, the new Alone in the Dark isn't very good, and most of the older ones are probably too dated for most people to stomach. Though, for the time, they were pretty good, and the whole light vs dark aspect was a pretty cool one. I'm sure Alan Wake will put it to good use

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I like the tagline.

I am AWAKE.

[TheCorpulent1]

It seems like they might be overusing the "awake" thing to me. I mean, his wife says "Alan, it's time to wake up" like 3 times in the E3 trailer. It works, but I hope they slow down with that a bit before it gets old.

[Teardrop]

I wonder if the whole 'Awake' aspect will have any significance in the end or if they are just playing around with it for not real reason but to build up mystery/suspense

[TheCorpulent1]

No clue. I hope it's not all a dream, though. That's just lame.

[Teardrop]

I didn't even think of that. God, I really hope that's not what it is. I mean surely with all this emphasis on waking it wouldn't be so obvious

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, it's the same guys who wrote Max Payne, so I doubt it'd be anything that lame. They clearly know how to construct a damn fine story. Dreams played a role in Max Payne too, but they thankfully spared us any "it was all a dream!" revelations there.

[MetalGear7]

The comparisons with Alone in the Dark seem kind of silly anyway. What similarities are there, really, beyond it's dark, you play as some everyman dude, and scary s*** happens? That's basically every survival horror game ever.

Are you kidding me? the reliance on light and dark places, enemies that are sensitive to light in particular is copying the hell outta alone in the dark, "It will also feature a previous episode recap and a cliffhanger ending, hopefully propelling you through the overall story by providing plenty of thrills along the way. This is a format that people may remember from Alone in the Dark, and while the developers do acknowledge the similarities..." http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6211095/alan-wake-impressions Give me a break

[Teardrop]

Are you kidding me? the reliance on light and dark places, enemies that are sensitive to light in particular is copying the hell outta alone in the dark, "It will also feature a previous episode recap and a cliffhanger ending, hopefully propelling you through the overall story by providing plenty of thrills along the way. This is a format that people may remember from Alone in the Dark, and while the developers do acknowledge the similarities..." http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6211095/alan-wake-impressions Give me a break

Hmm, I didn't know Alan Wake was doing that as well. Well, Alan Wake was in development way before the newest Alone In The Dark (we are only talking about the new one right? Did some of the older ones do it too?). It's entirely possible that the idea came during this near 5 year long development.

I doubt it's a full rip, though, I mean both are good ideas and people are always borrowing ideas from one another in the entertainment biz. Though I didn't realize there were that many similarities

[TheCorpulent1]

In the end, who cares if it did rip off some stuff from Alone in the Dark. If it takes elements from a s***ty game and improves them, I don't see how it's any different from shooters or action games like Devil May Cry and God of War refining loads of the same elements across multiple franchises. If it's fun and it's got a good story, I'm down.

[Teardrop]

In the end, who cares if it did rip off some stuff from Alone in the Dark. If it takes elements from a s***ty game and improves them, I don't see how it's any different from shooters or action games like Devil May Cry and God of War refining loads of the same elements across multiple franchises. If it's fun and it's got a good story, I'm down.

But Alone in the Dark use to be good:csad:

Though I agree, this kind of stuff happens a lot. Gears Of War essentially took the cover system from Kill.Switch and refined it to be better. So maybe this will be a similar system

[TheCorpulent1]

Light and darkness are common themes in a lot of horror games, too. Hell, in a lot of games from any genre.

[ProjectPat2280]

In the end, who cares if it did rip off some stuff from Alone in the Dark. If it takes elements from a s***ty game and improves them, I don't see how it's any different from shooters or action games like Devil May Cry and God of War refining loads of the same elements across multiple franchises. If it's fun and it's got a good story, I'm down.


Exactly.

[BlackLantern]

can I have a pretty pink flashlight??

[KevanG]

I wonder if the whole 'Awake' aspect will have any significance in the end or if they are just playing around with it for not real reason but to build up mystery/suspense

Awake

A. Wake

Alan Wake???

OMG IT'S ALL CONNECTED!!! *head kerplodes getting brain matter all over the sofa*

[Teardrop]

Awake

A. Wake

Alan Wake???

OMG IT'S ALL CONNECTED!!! *head kerplodes getting brain matter all over the sofa*

If you think that's crazy, look at this:

Alan kind of, sort of looks like Alone. Where do you usually Wake at? In The Dark

Alan Wake = Alone In The Dark. See, Remedy is taunting

[TheCorpulent1]

His wife's name is Allison, right? So she's A. Wake as well. :) Or maybe she's dead and Alan will have A. Wake for her at the end of the game. :csad:

[Teardrop]

His wife's name is Allison, right? So she's A. Wake as well. :) Or maybe she's dead and Alan will have A. Wake for her at the end of the game. :csad:

Ah damn. Wait, now, Allison. In the song Allison by The Pixies they said that when the planet hits the sun it's Allison. So, Allison is the sun:wow:

Yeah, I don't know where I'm going with that

[BlackLantern]

I got it...Allison is the sun, that means that Alan must be the moon....and the moon influences the tides....A wake is the effect of a boat moving through water....that must mean....

Aquaman is behind it all

[TheCorpulent1]

The game would instantly be 20 times more awesome.

[XxDelta09xX]

This Game looks awesome cant wait to play it.

[KevanG]

I got it...Allison is the sun, that means that Alan must be the moon....and the moon influences the tides....A wake is the effect of a boat moving through water....that must mean....

Aquaman is behind it all

I'm sure thousands would buy the game just to find out what the **** is going on...

[BlackLantern]

I could see the tagline now

Darkness....Light....Good...Evil....

Aquaman

[Shaolin Kenobi]

I'm excited for it.

[czoom]

Game is amazing. Loved the E3 footage!

[Dark Victory]

Wow, I guess it's good that I totally forgot Alan Wake existed before seeing that footage, then. It was just a cool new game to me until I started reading about how it'd been in development hell for years, which jogged my memory of hearing something about it a long time ago.


Yeah, it's been a haul. I remember it took half a decade for Max Payne. I've been waiting for this game for so long that I'll probably save up enough money and reboot my "xbox experience."(buy an elite, new gamertag, etc.)

[imaperson2]

I'm confused as to what the plot of the game is-can anyone enlighten me? All i know is that he uses light as a weapon :O

[TheCorpulent1]

A writer goes on vacation with his wife to get past his writer's block, but wakes up to find his wife missing and stuff from a forgotten novel--a thriller--coming to life.

[imaperson2]

Ooh that sounds fantastic...from what i've seen of gameplay, the stylization helps in giving the thriller vibe off.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it for the story more than anything else. The fact that he can't remember the novel that the horrors of the game are coming from hints that there's a lot more going on with the story and the character that we don't know about, and Lake's proven he can do great stuff with video game narratives (and that he apparently really loves titles that are puns ;)) in the Max Payne games.

[imaperson2]

No ****ing idea that it was being done by him...in that case, I am most definitely buying this...oh how I love Max Payne(although I'm skeptical about part 3). So we are going to unwrap the story as we go along? sounds so great.

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably. I imagine we'll start hearing a lot more news about it after holiday games come and go. It's supposed to be released sometime next year.

[Bruce Banner]

I have complete faith In remedy and look foward to it even thou I have a ps3. I will be buying it for X Box just to play it at a friends house.

[Dark_Lord]

Some new gameplay videos at GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/alan-wake/1608).

[Dark Victory]

Some new gameplay videos at GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/alan-wake/1608).

Thanks, Dark Lord. I just fixed my xbox so I now have a chance of playing this game. Can't wait.