Zelda

[Galactus]

Miyamoto: Zelda Wii controls improved
Monday 21-Aug-2006 11:38 AM We will be able to wield a Wii-mote like a sword after all- phew! Plus GC games benefit...

Shigeru Miyamoto, in an interview with Nintendo Dream, has revealed that Nintendo has reworked the control system for the Wii version of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Now, as with Ubisoft's Red Steel, Zelda: Twilight Princess will let you wield the Wii remote as a sword.

The version of Twilight Princess shown at E3 forced players to operate Link's sword by pressing the B button, but the actual game will now let players make like Errol Flynn, which in turn frees up the B button for firing arrows (at E3, the D-Pad was used for archery).

In the interview, Nintendo's revered, perpetually grinning, resident genius also said: "I'm also thinking I can remake some of my GameCube games for Wii, making use of the Wii-mote. Of course you can wander into a second hand shop and buy a lot of these games still, so I don't think we can release these games at full price. Since a lot of the development cost has already been accounted for, we'll be able to release these at a much more affordable price."

The prospect of cheap GameCube games re-engineered for the Wii-mote should make Nintendo fan-boys come over all unnecessary. And stay tuned for further Ninty revelations from Leipzig on Wednesday.

[Brainiac 8]

Sounds cool, getting Gamecube games for cheap with re-worked controls sounds promising.:up:

[hippie_hunter]

Woo-hoo!

[Mentok]

I knew they would change that by the release. They said at E3 that pressing the button to attack was kinda defeating the whole purpose of having the wiimote.

[TheGrayGhost]

Here's the article from IGN.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/726/726748p1.html

This is amazing news.

[Future Prez]

Nice. I have officially changed my mind and am getting TP on Wii. This is gonna be sick.

[Manny Calavera]

Very awesome. Does anyone know if this means the distracting fairy-cursor is gone?

[TheGrayGhost]

No. But the fairy cursor will only be used to navigate menus, so it isn't much of a problem.

[Brainiac 8]

Isn't it funny how Nintendo was going the way of Sega, the path of legendary has-beens, but now it's one of the most highly anticipated releases coming.

And every time Nintendo releases more info about the system and games, it just makes more people jump on the Wii bandwagon.:up: :)

[hippie_hunter]

I'm still really hoping that the Link used in Twilight Princess is the Hero of Time. If not, I'm hoping that they'll continue the Hero of Time's adventures on the DS just like they have with the Hero of the Winds Link's adventures.

[Kipobe]

LttP's Link was the best of all Links.

Also, I heard that they were thinking of reworking it. I love how Nintendo listens to their audience... the E3 showing left alot of people unenthused about no sword-swinging. That's the last of the imperfections from this game as far as I can see.

That article doesn't state it, but they also reworked the sub-menus which alot of people didn't like before. Very happy about this... and it looks like the distinction between the GC version and the Wii version is clear.

Now, the only thing I can hope for is either a battle between Dark Link and Link (with quickness on the Wiimote being the key to success) or Fierce Deity Link... or BOTH! :yay:

[Brainiac 8]

That's one thing Nintendo has above many like companies, is they do seriously take fan input, and work with it.:up:

[hippie_hunter]

Does anyone think that it would be a good idea to remake the Legend of Zelda, Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and A Link to the Past for the Nintendo DS.

Miyamoto and Eonuma have said that they want to create a definete timeline with the games to give it a more epic feel. And what better way to solve the timeline issues if those games were remade for the DS. Keep A Link to the Past exactly the same but with the graphics of the DS (which would be easy to do, just convert the game into the semi 3D that Phantom Hourglass has), but add in more story into the first two games.

[Mentok]

The last Zelda game I finished was OTT... I am looking forward to finishing TWW when I pick up a Wii (along with a bunch of other CG games I never ended up playing)

[Kipobe]

How far did you get in WW?

[Kipobe]

Haha, World War Question Mark. :word:

[Mentok]

How far did you get in WW?

I played about 1/3rd of it.

[The Don Killuminati]

is there any other info so far on TP?is it set after OOT? different link? GANON anywhere? Zelda anywhere or the "new Princess?" i hear the game is extremely long taking about 15 hours to beat JUST the part where Link is a wolf, and supposedbly that is about 1/8th of the game. this should be interesting having a game that will last you possibly weeks to beat, not to mention side quest and all the little things every one likes to go back and do.

[XwolverineX]

Oh for **** sake, I'll just get a mother****ing Wii. ****. Damn. I have no money. ****.

[Spidey-Bat]

Does anyone think that it would be a good idea to remake the Legend of Zelda, Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and A Link to the Past for the Nintendo DS.

I'd only want a remake of Zelda II. That game is so un-Zelda like.

[hippie_hunter]

is it set after OOT?
Yes, Twilight Princess is set after Ocarina of Time.

different link?
Hard to say. Originally Nintendo was saying that this was a sequel to the Wind Waker. Now they are saying that this is set decades after Ocarina of Time, which would mean that it is a different Link. Nintendo has said that it is a different Link.

Though there is some evidence that this is the Hero of Time Link.
- Some screenshots of the begining of the game show Link in posession of the Triforce of Courage which the Hero of Time Link posesses.

- One of the trailers showed Kaporea Gaebora the giant owl that helped the Hero of Time in Ocarina of Time.

- Link is riding Epona which is the horse of the Hero of Time. Navi, the fairy of the Hero to Time

- Navi, the fairy of the Hero of Time, is in the Wii version of the game. In the Gamecube version, Link if fairyless (Navi left Link after Ocarina of Time and Link was looking for her in Majora's Mask but ended up in Termina)

- The game is set in Ancient Hyrule, the setting of Ocarina of Time

Nintendo has said that this game is the link between Ocarina of Time and The Wind Waker. The biggest question that has developed from the Wind Waker was that how did Ancient Hyrule get flooded. Where was the Hero of Time? Nintendo has said that this is the darkest Legend of Zelda game ever made. My personal opinion is that we will be playing as the Hero of Time, grown up once again but will fall and lose, forcing the gods to flood Hyrule so that Gannondorf will be unable to take over the land. This is my personal opinion however and I could be completely wrong.

EDIT: Further proof that makes me think that we are playing the Hero of Time is how Link looks in Twilight Princess:

Twilight Princess Link:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/E3_link_art.jpg/335px-E3_link_art.jpg

Completely identical to the Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask, Hero of Time Link
http://c-uncut.com/media/oot-link04.gif
http://c-uncut.com/media/oot-link05.gif

Notice that the other Links have their own somewhat distintive looks:

Legend of Zelda/Adventure of Link, Link:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Link_LOZ_with_items.png

A Link to the Past/Link's Awakening, The Hero of Legend Link
http://web.ecomplanet.com/HANC9839/ServerContent/MyCustomImages/HANC9839CustomImage3275676.jpg

The Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass, The Hero of Wind Link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Linkfromtlozww.jpg

EDIT 2: The new footage of Twilight Princess shows Link pulling the Master Sword out of a pestal at what appears to be a ruined Temple of Time, the same location where the Hero of Time pulled out the Master Sword

GANON anywhere?
Nintendo has confirmed Ganon's appearance in the game and that he will be the villain. Hopefully this game will explain how he was able to break the seal of the Sages, another question that developed from the Wind Waker.

Zelda anywhere or the "new Princess?"
Zelda is in the game.

i hear the game is extremely long taking about 15 hours to beat JUST the part where Link is a wolf, and supposedbly that is about 1/8th of the game. this should be interesting having a game that will last you possibly weeks to beat, not to mention side quest and all the little things every one likes to go back and do.
Nintendo has said that the game should take over 100 hours to beat. Yes, it will be a long game.

[hippie_hunter]

I'd only want a remake of Zelda II. That game is so un-Zelda like.

I want a remake of the first three games.

Like I said keep A Link to the Past exactly the same. No changes need to be made. Just have it be a graphical remake.

However, I would like the first two games to be remade so a deeper story can develop and some timeline and continuity issues can be settled.

[Spidey-Bat]

The horse in TP isn't Epona. The player chooses the horses name in the game.

LttP shouldn't be remade. LoZ1 should but wont be b/c of nostalgia.

[hippie_hunter]

The horse in TP isn't Epona. The player chooses the horses name in the game.
Just like we can choose the name of Link in the game. He's still Link though.

LttP shouldn't be remade. LoZ1 should but wont be b/c of nostalgia.

Why not? Like I said give the same damn game the graphics of the DS

[The Don Killuminati]

is there a release date yet? I hear for the Wii it comes out with the Wii's Launch, but for GC is sometime in October, confirmation?

[Hudson]

It comes out as a launch title for Wii.

[hippie_hunter]

How about a remake of Link's Awakening. My DS doesn't play Game Boy Color games :(

[XwolverineX]

Yes, Twilight Princess is set after Ocarina of Time.


Hard to say. Originally Nintendo was saying that this was a sequel to the Wind Waker. Now they are saying that this is set decades after Ocarina of Time, which would mean that it is a different Link. Nintendo has said that it is a different Link.

Though there is some evidence that this is the Hero of Time Link.
- Some screenshots of the begining of the game show Link in posession of the Triforce of Courage which the Hero of Time Link posesses.

- One of the trailers showed Kaporea Gaebora the giant owl that helped the Hero of Time in Ocarina of Time.

- Link is riding Epona which is the horse of the Hero of Time. Navi, the fairy of the Hero to Time

- Navi, the fairy of the Hero of Time, is in the Wii version of the game. In the Gamecube version, Link if fairyless (Navi left Link after Ocarina of Time and Link was looking for her in Majora's Mask but ended up in Termina)

- The game is set in Ancient Hyrule, the setting of Ocarina of Time

Nintendo has said that this game is the link between Ocarina of Time and The Wind Waker. The biggest question that has developed from the Wind Waker was that how did Ancient Hyrule get flooded. Where was the Hero of Time? Nintendo has said that this is the darkest Legend of Zelda game ever made. My personal opinion is that we will be playing as the Hero of Time, grown up once again but will fall and lose, forcing the gods to flood Hyrule so that Gannondorf will be unable to take over the land. This is my personal opinion however and I could be completely wrong.


Nintendo has confirmed Ganon's appearance in the game and that he will be the villain. Hopefully this game will explain how he was able to break the seal of the Sages, another question that developed from the Wind Waker.


Zelda is in the game.


Nintendo has said that the game should take over 100 hours to beat. Yes, it will be a long game.

What do you like more, Zelda or MGS? :huh:

[hippie_hunter]

What do you like more, Zelda or MGS? :huh:

I really don't know. They're both equal in my eyes.

[WhatsHisFace]

There can be only one!

[hippie_hunter]

There can be only one!

Damn :cmad:

Fine, I choose The Legend of Zelda on account that I am playing A Link to the Past at the moment.

I'll probally like Metal Gear more when Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops comes out.

[XwolverineX]

So I guess that's why you're going PSWii.. But.. but Mass Effect! Halo 3! Bioshock! Alan Wake! Fable 2! Gears of War!

[hippie_hunter]

So I guess that's why you're going PSWii.. But.. but Mass Effect! Halo 3! Bioshock! Alan Wake! Fable 2! Gears of War!

That's exactly why I am going PSWii, because of Metal Gear and the Legend of Zelda. I'm a diehard fanboy of those two franchises.

[XwolverineX]

But jeez. 360 has lotsa great series. Halo.

[hippie_hunter]

Why not? Like I said give the same damn game the graphics of the DS

Now that I think about it, A Link to the Past shouldn't be remade at all. Nintendo should use their Virtual Console to remake Legend of Zelda, Adventure of Link, and Link's Awakening however with a more fleshed out story and graphics similar to A Link to the Past's

[hippie_hunter]

But jeez. 360 has lotsa great series. Halo.

Halo is not Metal Gear or the Legend of Zelda. I was originally going to get an Xbox 360, until I hear about the overblown price of the Playstation 3 :csad:

[XwolverineX]

Halo is not Metal Gear or the Legend of Zelda. I was originally going to get an Xbox 360, until I hear about the overblown price of the Playstation 3 :csad:


That has to be the worst reason ever. :o Just get all three, I am, and I have no ****ing job. You can too. :cmad: Plus, I am a Hippie. Hunt me online.

[hippie_hunter]

That has to be the worst reason ever. :o Just get all three, I am, and I have no ****ing job. You can too. :cmad: Plus, I am a Hippie. Hunt me online.

I was going to get all three, but I really just don't want to spend over $1000 on consoles that will eventually get outdated. I have other needs that need my much earned money also, such as comic books, DVDs, buying actual video games, and needing money when it is required. Plus I'm getting enough crap from my dad for wanting the Playstation 3 and Wii (he thinks having the Playstation 2 is just enough), and b***hing from a parent for stupid reasons is just plain annoying :o

It's a damn shame too, unlike the original Xbox, I actually liked the Xbox 360 :( I was actually pretty close to getting an Xbox 360, but the shortage was so severe where I live at that Target never had any (I had enough in gift cards to get a Premium model), even when they announced the price of the Playstation 3. A few weeks after announcing the Playstation 3's price and deciding not to get one (thanks a whole f**king lot Sony), Target had plenty of them dammit :cmad:

[XwolverineX]

I see, yeah. Did you ever have an Xbox? I agree, PS2 was better. But KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden, Halo, Halo 2, Riddick, Jade Empire, Fable all the Splinter Cell's. 'Twas still a kickass system.

[Spidey-Bat]

KOTOR is overrated and Ninja Gaiden is ass-rapingly difficult.

[Melpomene]

Blasphemer :cmad:

[XwolverineX]

KOTOR is overrated and Ninja Gaiden is ass-rapingly difficult.

Kotor is unbelievable and who cares? It is hard, but that's good.

[hippie_hunter]

I see, yeah. Did you ever have an Xbox? I agree, PS2 was better. But KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden, Halo, Halo 2, Riddick, Jade Empire, Fable all the Splinter Cell's. 'Twas still a kickass system.

No, I loathed the original Xbox. Mostly because the controller sucked ass. Luckily the Xbox 360 fixed that.

[Spidey-Bat]

Kotor is unbelievable and who cares? It is hard, but that's good.

KOTOR is unbelieveably slow at times. The only reason people kept playing and wanted to keep playing is because of the story. It would have been much better as a movie and not a game.

Ninja Gaiden is aggravating in its difficulty. It would be better if there was an option for choosing a difficulty.

[kainedamo]

That has to be the worst reason ever. :o Just get all three, I am, and I have no ****ing job. You can too. :cmad: Plus, I am a Hippie. Hunt me online.


You expect your parents to buy all three consoles?? That's really selfish, especially considering the price of the PS3. Get a job.

[hippie_hunter]

You expect your parents to buy all three consoles?? That's really selfish, especially considering the price of the PS3. Get a job.

I don't think he was saying that. He was saying that I should get an Xbox 360 and the great games it has on top of the Playstation 3 and Wii I am getting. But like I said I really don't want to spend $1,000+ on consoles that will eventually get outdated.

PSWii for me.

[XwolverineX]

You expect your parents to buy all three consoles?? That's really selfish, especially considering the price of the PS3. Get a job.


Who the **** are you again? I've allready bought the 360 with my money.

[Kipobe]

There's a little Zelda snippet from yesterday. The video looks phenominal visually speaking, but it was grainy because of low video quality.

Link was shown pulling the master sword and swinging it. :heart:

Also, Wii's TP will have Link as either a righty or a lefty for obvious reasons. GC's TP will have Link as the standard left-hand.

[XwolverineX]

So, we can choose left or right handed? I'm left handed, so that'd be cool.

[Mentok]

The freestyle nature of the Wiimote suggests that you will pick left or right handed I guess.

[XwolverineX]

Coolioso.

[Galactus]

http://www.planetgamecube.com/media/11449/1/2.jpg

[Kipobe]

There's some nice online images, I must say.

Right now, I just want to hear something from Nintendo about the cables that will be bundled... any word on if they're gonna put component cables in the bundle? Or no?

[Kipobe]

http://www.thehylia.com/cutenews/data/upimages/zeldaTPratedT.PNG

Don't particularly like this... but not really anything I can say, because the trailers alone kinda previewed a "T" taste. I especially don't like all the teeny-boppers coming online in different forums and saying things like 'yes, now I can finally like this game' :whatever: Ugh.

Hope it doesn't mean they're trying to do too much with Zelda. Then again, I have to remember games like NBA Street(?) and NFS consistantly get T ratings.

[Kipobe]

Also, IGN reviewed the controller for Wii with Zelda, and they say it's a smashing success and fits the physical emotion of the player perfectly. If they want to act theatrical, it'll respond well... if they want to play nonchalant, it will again respond accordingly. :up:

Also, Link will only be right-handed in the Wii version. He'll only be left-handed in the GCN version... so Link's sword hand might change now. GC's launch is 3 weeks after Wii, but it doesn't matter to me anymore, because I'm convinced that it's gonna be Wii-only for me.

[Mentok]

From ign...

http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732877p1.html

Nintendo's new controller is, of course, a perfect fit for the fishing option in the game. Gamers merely hold down the Wii-mote's A button, pull the pointer back and then cast it forward as they would if they were really out there doing it. Wide, exaggerated gestures will work just fine, but players who would prefer minimal movements can choose simple flicks of the wrist to do the same thing. The Wii-mote is indiscriminate in the way that it processes motion. The controller rumbles to let players know that they've cast a line. Bigger and faster motions will cause the line to travel farther and vice versa.

Awesome :up:

[TheGrayGhost]

New gameplay footage. It's beautiful.

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748589/vids_1.html

[Spidey-Bat]

http://www.thehylia.com/cutenews/data/upimages/zeldaTPratedT.PNG

Don't particularly like this... but not really anything I can say, because the trailers alone kinda previewed a "T" taste. I especially don't like all the teeny-boppers coming online in different forums and saying things like 'yes, now I can finally like this game' :whatever: Ugh.

Hope it doesn't mean they're trying to do too much with Zelda. Then again, I have to remember games like NBA Street(?) and NFS consistantly get T ratings.

T means nothing anymore. Melee got a T and that didn't affect it financially.

[kainedamo]

It is meant to be a darker game, afterall.

[Spidey-Bat]

A few days ago, GameStop called about my reservation for Twilight Princess. I had reserved it for Gamecube back in January when it was still expected to come out in the Summer. I called them back asking if I could switch my reservation over to the Wii version. They said they have Wii games able to be reserved, but Twilight Princess is not one of them. They said the soonest they'd know about when they'll take preorders is a day or 2 before.

[TrailerCues]

Wow they started Wii Game Preorders but not System Pre Orders ? Bastards :down They are probably waiting for all of the bundle crap info from Nintendo

[Spidey-Bat]

Actually, they've only started preorders for some games. The girl told me that they got a list of Wii games that they can take preorders on, but Twilight Princess was not on the list and they probably won't get any more info until sometime next week.

[TKing]

It is meant to be a darker game, afterall.

Yeah, the darkest in the entire Zelda series. Looks great! :yay:

[VaderRISE]

You know, I'm glad we'll also have Phantom Hourglass on the DS to play. As much as I love "older" Zelda, I like "fun loving cartoon" Zelda as well. It will be nice to switch between the two.

Granted, I think every "console" Zelda should follow in TP's footsteps, and leave the cel-shaded one's on the DS.

[TheGrayGhost]

A few days ago, GameStop called about my reservation for Twilight Princess. I had reserved it for Gamecube back in January when it was still expected to come out in the Summer. I called them back asking if I could switch my reservation over to the Wii version. They said they have Wii games able to be reserved, but Twilight Princess is not one of them. They said the soonest they'd know about when they'll take preorders is a day or 2 before.

Interesting. My house received a message from my local GameStop not too long ago and informed us that we could switch our TP pre-oder to the Wii version the next day.

[Spidey-Bat]

They probably said that when they called. Unfortunately my mom was on the phone, she didnt bother writing it down so she had absolutely no clue as to what the hell they were talking about.

[CantThinkOfAName]

http://www.thehylia.com/cutenews/data/upimages/zeldaTPratedT.PNG

Don't particularly like this... but not really anything I can say, because the trailers alone kinda previewed a "T" taste. I especially don't like all the teeny-boppers coming online in different forums and saying things like 'yes, now I can finally like this game' :whatever: Ugh.
I hope this doesnt become a regular thing with the Zelda franchise. While I get it with this game they were trying to for a dark, immerseful (is that a word?) and mature world, so Im ok with it here I guess. But E is the way to go with Zelda games. OoT was pretty mature in its look and Majora's Mask was pretty dark, so its not like it cant be done without a T rating. I consider Zelda to be like Chronicles of Narnia or something, its a deep and intricate thing but is still open to everyone:up:

[CantThinkOfAName]

Granted, I think every "console" Zelda should follow in TP's footsteps, and leave the cel-shaded one's on the DS.
Meh. The Zelda franchise is big enough to have a variety of tones and atmosperes. I certainly hope future Zelda games do something different each time.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Also, IGN reviewed the controller for Wii with Zelda, and they say it's a smashing success and fits the physical emotion of the player perfectly. If they want to act theatrical, it'll respond well... if they want to play nonchalant, it will again respond accordingly. :up:

Also, Link will only be right-handed in the Wii version. He'll only be left-handed in the GCN version... so Link's sword hand might change now. GC's launch is 3 weeks after Wii, but it doesn't matter to me anymore, because I'm convinced that it's gonna be Wii-only for me.I was going to play with my left hand before, not because im left-handed, but because i care that much. Look like Nintendo took the tradition option right out my hand :csad:




haha, "out of my hand," i didnt even know i was being funny:)

[kainedamo]

"Tradition"? You're not serious, are you? You can't possibly be that much of a sad fanboy.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Its ok, we all can't understand the intricacies of humor. :csad:

[kainedamo]

Sarcasm can be hard to detect on the Internet.

[hippie_hunter]

I'll be playing it left handed (I'm a lefty)

[Spidey-Bat]

I was reading the GameStop forums and they said the game was mirrored since most people are righties. I have a feeling you'll have an option considering Miyamoto prefers his left hand.

[CantThinkOfAName]

I dont think its too big a deal either way. I mean, the game isnt supposed to have exact one-to-one matching of the slashes (like Red Steel is going to), whichever hand you play it with shouldnt matter.



Come to think of it, is the control stick add-on going to be geared for both right and left-handed people?:confused:

[Aiden]

I think the Gamecube version has been delayed...

[Kipobe]

Some reports aren't favorable about the Wii's remote for slashing with the sword... but it was the feel of no 1:1 control after playing a Red Steel demo. I'm still interested in it, but I'm sure Zelda's sword mechanics will be totally overhauled by the next Zelda game.

Anyway, for all you crazy cats and hip, happening bastards out there, here goes the official Wii box-art:

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/ZeldaTwilghtPrincessCoverArtUS.jpg

[TheGrayGhost]

OOOO. Pretty...

[hippie_hunter]

Some reports aren't favorable about the Wii's remote for slashing with the sword... but it was the feel of no 1:1 control after playing a Red Steel demo. I'm still interested in it, but I'm sure Zelda's sword mechanics will be totally overhauled by the next Zelda game.

Anyway, for all you crazy cats and hip, happening bastards out there, here goes the official Wii box-art:

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/ZeldaTwilghtPrincessCoverArtUS.jpg

You know, that is the best cover art for a Zelda game yet!

[Mentok]

This is the official cover art.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/9/928519_67607_front.jpg

[Dissonance]

I just had a nerdgasm.

[Kipobe]

This is the official cover art.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/9/928519_67607_front.jpg
That's a fan/company mockup. Not a bad guess though... they all were pretty close, but the gold is Official Nintendo. Look for sites to start changing soon.

[XwolverineX]

Wow, I'm thinking of buying a Wii for this game only. :o

[Spidey-Bat]

The gold cover sucks. You can barely make out the whole logo and

[Axid]

And..... you didn't even finish the sentence :o

It's awsome, Zelda covers need gold :cmad:

[Kipobe]

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/ZeldaTwilghtPrincessCoverArtUS.jpg
Box-Art correction:

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/wii_zelda.jpg

A little darker. Kinda like the first one. :csad:

[CantThinkOfAName]

I like the first one too. Gold is Zelda man!:cmad:

I also dont like how part of the Zelda logo is covered up by the Wii panel on top:(

[XwolverineX]

The gold is soooo sexy.

[Kipobe]

Box-art correction again. I like this one the least!

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/733/733464/igns-nintendo-wii-faq-20060919055746566.jpg

[Spidey-Bat]

The thing that sucks about that one is the two-tone. It should be all brown-tan (link side), not gray (wolf side). Also Link and Wolf should match up perfectly.

The 2nd correction is the best. You can make out the faint design of the TP logo and it is all one color and the darker gold is better.

[Kipobe]

Also, the third one sucks the most as well because I thought the twilight world wasn't gonna be black and white anymore? This suggests otherwise.

:down

[Future Prez]

Alright, this isn't a matter of opinions? Which cover is it?!

I'm hoping it's the gold, Zelda has almost always been gold. That's almost a trademark, going all the way back to the NES's gold cartridge.

[DACrowe]

Well the gold one looks the best and fits the tradition so I am hoping for that one, but this is a MUST have for me though.

[WhatsHisFace]

The box art needs a bit more contrast. Just a bit though.

[DACrowe]

IGN just confirmed this is the official box art, and I am relieved and happy:

http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/735/735577/img_3946712.html

[Delusive]

WIN! I ALWAYS thought that handling the Wiimote like a sword is just awesome. I am fully convinced that getting the Wii when it comes out with Twilight Princess WON'T be a mistake.

[Kipobe]

No 1:1 controls... not this time around anyway. I still think both versions will have their higher points... but the Wii version sounds great. Either way, I can't wait.

[Kipobe]

New Trailer coming either tomorrow or Wednesday.... (description may contain spoilers)

Aussie-Nintendo, as well as other sites, are reporting that the Australian Wii Party attendees are being treated to a brand new Twilight Princess trailer. I first saw this on GoNintendo, but as I ventured around, several other sites are confirming this report. Also, it appears this trailer, as well as new screenshots, are due out either tomorrow or Wednesday during the Nintendo of America, Inc., Zelda event in Redmond, WA.

Source: Aussie-Nintendo

Starts out with some Twilight Creatures in some sort of dark castle (Hyrule Castle?)

Goes to Cowboy Link, Epona, Colin and a couple of unidentified people. One has a sword. Epona's loaded up with wood for some reason or another. Colin goes with the man with the sword over a rope bridge, while Link (in his cowboy outfit) smiles at him.

Next up is the transformation sequence. Cowboy Link is walking through a path, when suddenly it turns into the Twilight Realm. He transforms into a Wolf, and is dragged away. We see Midna, and next wee some gameplay of Wolf Link and Midna attacking some Twilight Creatures. There's more gameplay, nothing particularily new but a town scene is shown with about 20 people in it, very impressive. Also, Link canoes down a rushing river, now in his classic outfit.

Few quick cuts of cutscenes, showing (among others) PRINCESS ZELDA! Zelda is casting some sort of elaborate spell, very pretty effects.

The trailer ends with Link pulling out the Master Sword and holding it up. The sword is quite a bit longer than any other game.

Sounds great, can't wait!!

Plus, new artwork:

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/userpics/10001/Linkonhorse.jpg (kinda big)

Also, Nintendo promises to keep extremely tight-lipped about the story of this game. So much so, that those who'll be playing the game as part of the press this week won't have a complete version of the game. They want absolutely NO spoilers to be leaked.

[jaydawg]

Good. I don't want to know whats going to happen when I take on Ganon. Hopefully this is as sexy as Ocarina.... and by all accounts, it will be.

[Kipobe]

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/userpics/10001/3112_net_046e7c7c9c9e13671f80dddea6936c47.jpg

[블라스]

Some people will have trouble grasping just how awesome this game is going to be.

[Silvermoth]

This is the only reason I'm getting a wii as yet

[jaydawg]

I think I just jizzed a little bit.

[블라스]

Why? What's the big news??

[Kipobe]

Some people will have trouble grasping just how awesome this game is going to be.
Those people will be caged and dropped into the ocean. :heart:

[AirKnight82]

The game looks freakin awesome that was the first preview I saw of the Wii, then that silly rabbit thing (i was more like wtf did I just see).

I'm getting this game, Smash Brawl, and probably Mario Galaxy to test it out. Oh plus red steel (guns and a sword, need I saw more!)

[블라스]

Those people will be caged and dropped into the ocean. :heart:

Best solution ever :meow:

[kainedamo]

New Trailer coming either tomorrow or Wednesday.... (description may contain spoilers)

Aussie-Nintendo, as well as other sites, are reporting that the Australian Wii Party attendees are being treated to a brand new Twilight Princess trailer. I first saw this on GoNintendo, but as I ventured around, several other sites are confirming this report. Also, it appears this trailer, as well as new screenshots, are due out either tomorrow or Wednesday during the Nintendo of America, Inc., Zelda event in Redmond, WA.

Source: Aussie-Nintendo

Starts out with some Twilight Creatures in some sort of dark castle (Hyrule Castle?)

Goes to Cowboy Link, Epona, Colin and a couple of unidentified people. One has a sword. Epona's loaded up with wood for some reason or another. Colin goes with the man with the sword over a rope bridge, while Link (in his cowboy outfit) smiles at him.

Next up is the transformation sequence. Cowboy Link is walking through a path, when suddenly it turns into the Twilight Realm. He transforms into a Wolf, and is dragged away. We see Midna, and next wee some gameplay of Wolf Link and Midna attacking some Twilight Creatures. There's more gameplay, nothing particularily new but a town scene is shown with about 20 people in it, very impressive. Also, Link canoes down a rushing river, now in his classic outfit.

Few quick cuts of cutscenes, showing (among others) PRINCESS ZELDA! Zelda is casting some sort of elaborate spell, very pretty effects.

The trailer ends with Link pulling out the Master Sword and holding it up. The sword is quite a bit longer than any other game.

Sounds great, can't wait!!

Plus, new artwork:

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/userpics/10001/Linkonhorse.jpg (kinda big)

Also, Nintendo promises to keep extremely tight-lipped about the story of this game. So much so, that those who'll be playing the game as part of the press this week won't have a complete version of the game. They want absolutely NO spoilers to be leaked.


Where is this new trailer?

[Kipobe]

Still hasn't been released, apparently. I haven't seen it myself, but quite a few people who've seen it are spreading the word on separate sites. As soon as I see it, I'll link it.

[Kipobe]

Told you I'd be back. :o Kipobe always delivers the goods.

Of course, there's a very minimal spoiler warning... but I don't like spoilers and this doesn't bother me.

NEW TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqUqxVKd5q0)

OPENING TITLE SCREEN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y88M-AQztl0)

:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

[MaximumSpider]

You just made my morning pal

[Cold2daToucH004]

Simply amazing.

[DareDemon]

I'm at school and we aren't doing anything in the computer lab. That trailer was awesome.

[Kipobe]

Don't know how I missed these small little gameplay videos.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/topics/interview/vol5/movie03.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/topics/interview/vol5/movie04.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/topics/interview/vol5/movie05.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/topics/interview/vol5/movie06.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/topics/interview/vol5/movie07.html

[Blaster Master]

No amount of sex can equal the feeling those vids gave me.

[Blaster Master]

One Word WOW!!!!!

[Kipobe]

wmv file versions (saveable)

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/videos/twilight_princess/Zelda_Wii_AttractMovie_small.wmv

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/videos/twilight_princess/Zelda_Wii_OpeningMovie_small.wmv

Plus there's tons and tons and tons of spoilers leaked all over the net despite Nintendo's attempts to keep them under wraps. Find and read at your own risk. Personally, I insist on not touching the forbidden fruit before November 19th! :cmad:

[MaximumSpider]

wmv file versions (saveable)

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/videos/twilight_princess/Zelda_Wii_AttractMovie_small.wmv

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/videos/twilight_princess/Zelda_Wii_OpeningMovie_small.wmv

Plus there's tons and tons and tons of spoilers leaked all over the net despite Nintendo's attempts to keep them under wraps. Find and read at your own risk. Personally, I insist on not touching the forbidden fruit before November 19th! :cmad:
So who has the juiciest spoilers? what websites? pm me if you want. These Vids are making it hard to wait until the 19th. I'm taking a week off work.

[jaydawg]

Link is oh so sexy. 17 days? I can wait. Definitely going to avoid all spoilers.

[DareDemon]

Golden chicken with human head=scariest thing I've seen in my life

[TheGrayGhost]

I'm not ashamed to admit that I cried when I saw those videos.:csad:

[Spidey-Bat]

It looks like the Master Sword plays the role of the Moon Perl, allowing Link to retain his human form in the Twilight Realm.

The second video shows an environment that puts Oblivion to shame.

[DACrowe]

Wow. Just wow. That trailer made me cry a little. They BETTER put this in cinemas in front of big Christmas and November flicks like Nintendo did for OOT and MM. This looks so....GOOD.

[Spidey-Bat]

I hope you can change the pointer icon. The fairy is very annoying.

[블라스]

Wow. Just wow. That trailer made me cry a little. They BETTER put this in cinemas in front of big Christmas and November flicks like Nintendo did for OOT and MM. This looks so....GOOD.

I was about to post the exact same thing :up: :(

[Kipobe]

I hope you can change the pointer icon. The fairy is very annoying.
She flies around a little too flamboyantly for my liking, I must admit... but there's something about seeing Link with a fairy that just feels like home. Theres fer things I look at OoT for as being the standard for what a Zelda game SHOULD be, considering that LttP set most of the parameters... but it feels right seeing Link with a fairy. Somehow it's almost like he's the chosen one with that thing flying around him.

:huh::huh:

[MaximumSpider]

Thanks for the link Kipobe. Did you notice thatat the end of the gameplay trailer it looks like link pulls the master sword out of the ruins of the Temple of time from Oot

[Kipobe]

I didn't. :csad: Spoilers make me want to murder a baby deer. :csad:

[hippie_hunter]

Thanks for the link Kipobe. Did you notice thatat the end of the gameplay trailer it looks like link pulls the master sword out of the ruins of the Temple of time from Oot

I noticed that quite some time ago. I'm still hoping that this is going to be the Hero of Time Link that we played in Ocarina of Time.

[MrHateYourself]

I noticed that quite some time ago. I'm still hoping that this is going to be the Hero of Time Link that we played in Ocarina of Time.

....does it really make any difference? He looks the same and plays the same.

Seriously, when did this crazy attempt to miniaturize and connect the Zelda games happen?

[jaydawg]

Um.... since Link to the Past came out?

[DACrowe]

Well it is VERY OBVIOUS THAT Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, A Link to the Past and Wind Waker are all on the same time line and in that order. However the other games makes it much more tricky, if not impossible to put them all in the same storyline and I can see Twilight Princess throwing A Link to the Past out of whack. My guess is there will end up being two timelines, 2D Zelda and 3D Zelda though.

[Mentok]

70 freaking hours of gameplay? CHECK!

9 freaking Dungeons? CHECK!

Hyrule 5 times the size of OoT? CHECK!

TP FTW :up:

www.kotaku.com

The boys wasted no time in whipping out a whopping 9 dungeons, 70 hours of gameplay and boasted of a Hyrule field five times as big as the map in Ocarina of Time. They also assure us that there are a lot more side quests so that the game doesn't end up becoming and endless string of dungeons one after the other.

[MrHateYourself]

Well it is VERY OBVIOUS THAT Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, A Link to the Past and Wind Waker are all on the same time line and in that order. However the other games makes it much more tricky, if not impossible to put them all in the same storyline and I can see Twilight Princess throwing A Link to the Past out of whack. My guess is there will end up being two timelines, 2D Zelda and 3D Zelda though.

And the Game Boy games, and the CDi games, and the DS game, and Four Swords, and....Link's Awakening, for instance, clearly is a direct follow up to LTTP. And where does LTTP connect to ANYTHING else?

Very few of them have direct ties, or even thin references, to connections with other games in the series. What is peoples' obsession with giving some kind of overarching "continuity"? Does it make it feel more "epic" or some crap to you? Is the concept of multiple unrelated ideas with a similar subject not being related confuse people?

Next up, an attempt to canonize and give continuity to the Mario games!

[MrHateYourself]

70 freaking hours of gameplay? CHECK!

9 freaking Dungeons? CHECK!

Hyrule 5 times the size of OoT? CHECK!

TP FTW :up:

www.kotaku.com
70 hours, I doubt that. Maybe 70 hours if you chase after every single possible thing to do, MAYBE, but I wouldn't expect mostly straight gameplay to take even 50.

9 dungeons? Awesome. Awesome.

5 times the size? So, still tiny, and I suspect smaller than WW as well. A nice increase though over the cramped and bland OOT Hyrule.

[hippie_hunter]

Well it is VERY OBVIOUS THAT Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, A Link to the Past and Wind Waker are all on the same time line and in that order. However the other games makes it much more tricky, if not impossible to put them all in the same storyline and I can see Twilight Princess throwing A Link to the Past out of whack. My guess is there will end up being two timelines, 2D Zelda and 3D Zelda though.

Actually It's

Ocarina of Time - takes place in ancient Hyrule

Majora's Mask - sequel to Ocarina of Time

Twilight Princess - takes place in ancient Hyrule

The Wind Waker - this game takes place in the sea above ancient Hyrule, heavily connected to the Hero of Time

Phantom Hourglass - sequel to the Wind Waker

A Link to the Past - this game takes place in a new Hyrule, the one that the Hero of the Winds and Tetra went out to discover

Link's Adventure - sequel to A Link to the Past

the Legend of Zelda - A Link to the Past was said to take place before the first Legend of Zelda game

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link - sequel to the Legend of Zelda

[hippie_hunter]

And the Game Boy games, and the CDi games, and the DS game, and Four Swords, and....Link's Awakening, for instance, clearly is a direct follow up to LTTP. And where does LTTP connect to ANYTHING else?

Very few of them have direct ties, or even thin references, to connections with other games in the series. What is peoples' obsession with giving some kind of overarching "continuity"? Does it make it feel more "epic" or some crap to you? Is the concept of multiple unrelated ideas with a similar subject not being related confuse people?

Next up, an attempt to canonize and give continuity to the Mario games!

Shigeru Miyamoto treated the Legend of Zelda much like the Mario games, with the games he developed (Ocarina of Time, A Link to the Past, the Legend of Zelda, and Zelda II: the Adventure of Link), continuity wasn't very important

Eiji Aonuma however on the other hand, is the one who wants to develop a coherent timeline within the games. And with him being in charge of the series, this is what is happening.

Now onto the stuff you mentioned about what is in continuity:

- The CDi games are not in continuity because Nintendo wasn't even involved in the production of the game. Also they sucked ass and it's best to forget about them.

- Phantom Hourglass and Link's Adventure are definetly in continuity.
1. They were developed by Nintendo EAD

2. They continue the adventures of the Hero of the Winds and the Hero of Legend

- As for the games developed by Capcom's Flagship (Oracle of Ages, Oracle of Seasons, the Four Swords, and the Minish Cap) their position in continuity is up for debate. Personally, I don't consider them in continuity because:
1. They weren't developed by Nintendo EAD

2. They throw the timeline completely into whack if you try and logically put them somewhere in the timeline.

The Official Timeline (position is not up for debate)
the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (young Hero of Time Link)
the Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (continues the adventures of young Hero of Time Link)
the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (adult Hero of Time Link)
the Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (new Link)
the Legend of Zelda: the Wind Waker (Hero of the Winds Link)
the Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (continues the adventures of Hero of the Winds Link)
the Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (Hero of Legend Link)
the Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (continues the adventures of the Hero of Legend Link)
the Legend of Zelda (original Link)
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (continues the adventures of original Link)

[jaydawg]

Well.... aside from the fact that the events of Adult Ocarina never happened.

[hippie_hunter]

Well.... aside from the fact that the events of Adult Ocarina never happened.

The Wind Waker specifically states that the events of Adult Ocarina did happen.

Here's what is known as the Time Loop Theory

Ocarina of Time Loop Theory
According to this theory, nothing in the past or future is changed by Link's time travel, and there is not a split timeline. When Link is sent back at the end of OoT by Zelda, instead of replacing himself in the past or being sent to an alternate timeline, he co-exists with his past self at the same time, in the same timeline. Link A is what Link is called before to being sent back by Zelda. Link B is what his "double" is called after being sent back by Zelda. We will now follow the events of both Link A and Link B step by step, starting with Link A:
1. Link A leaves Kokiri forest, meets Zelda, collects the stones, and pulls the Master Sword.
2. Link A sleeps in the Temple of Light for seven years.
3. Link A gathers Forest, Fire, and Water medallions. (Lets just say that three days pass. I'm just throwing out a number, though, so don't be offensive if you think it took him longer )
4. Link A replaces the MS and travels to three days after he previously pulled the MS as a kid, creating a "clone."
5. Link A goes to the well and gets the Lens of Truth. (One day passes. Again, random number)
6. Link A pulls MS and returns to one day after he replaced the MS at point 4.
7. Link A gathers Shadow Medallion. (One day passes. You get the drill.)
8. Link A replaces MS and returns to one day after he pulled the MS at point 6.
9. Link A helps Nabooru at the Spirit Temple. (One day passes.)
10. Link A pulls the MS and returns to one day after he replaced it at point 8.
11. Link A gathers Spirit Medallion.
12. Link A seals Ganon.
13. Zelda sends Link back to where he is doing the well or Spirit Temple. Link A now becomes Link B.
Now, this is where it gets confusing. Link A, after being sent back, although he is, in essence, the same person, will now be called Link B so that we can tell Link A and Link B apart. Link A and Link B exist At The Same Time, In the Same Timeline. If you can get that, then you should understand the theory. We will now follow the events of Link B step by step. Please remember that the follow events are happening at the same time in the same timeline as the above events.
1. Link B goes to Zelda in the courtyard. He possibly tells her about the future events to come. That may be how Shiek seems to have near infinite knowledge of Link A's whereabouts.
2. Link B does his own thing in the shadows for a few months
3. Link B borrows Epona while Link A is napping.
4. Link B goes to Termina.
5. Link B returns from Termina three days later and returns Epona to Lon Lon Ranch so Link A will be able to ride her.
6. Link B does his own thing in the shadows while, at the same time, the above events (Link A's actions) are happening.
7. Link A is sent back. He no longer exists in the future after this point. Only Link B is left. He continues into the future until he dies of natural causes (or bigfoot, aliens, or mimes).

[Kipobe]

Hey guys,

Zelda is cool

Fin

:heart: Kipobe

[Spidey-Bat]

Wow, hippie, never saw it that way.

The creating a double thing is easy to comprehend since it was in BTTF. When Marty went back to 1955 in Pt. II, he didn't replace himself as he was in Pt. I.

[TheGrayGhost]

70 hours, I doubt that. Maybe 70 hours if you chase after every single possible thing to do, MAYBE, but I wouldn't expect mostly straight gameplay to take even 50.

9 dungeons? Awesome. Awesome.

5 times the size? So, still tiny, and I suspect smaller than WW as well. A nice increase though over the cramped and bland OOT Hyrule.

According to most if not all journalists playing it as we speak, that figure is a conservative estimate. I'm skeptical, too, but either way we're getting the best game ever.

As for you closing comments, go to hell.:o

[MrHateYourself]

According to most if not all journalists playing it as we speak, that figure is a conservative estimate. I'm skeptical, too, but either way we're getting the best game ever.

As for you closing comments, go to hell.:o

70 hours would be nice, but big RPGs typically don't even cram that much in....

As for my closing comments, sorry you disagree....but Hyrule was small expanses of hills, a few trees, and a castle. There was nothing in it and nothing even to look at. Small wouldn't be a problem if it had something....and bland, well...that's the N64's hardware's fault really.

[hippie_hunter]

....does it really make any difference? He looks the same and plays the same.
I just want to see the Hero of Time's adventures come to a close. The Wind Waker made it seem like there was a specific end for the Hero of Time, also the adult version of the Hero of Time is the only version of Link that has not had a sequel made for him.

[Spidey-Bat]

1. Link B goes to Zelda in the courtyard. He possibly tells her about the future events to come. That may be how Shiek seems to have near infinite knowledge of Link A's whereabouts.
2. Link B does his own thing in the shadows for a few months
3. Link B borrows Epona while Link A is napping.
4. Link B goes to Termina.
5. Link B returns from Termina three days later and returns Epona to Lon Lon Ranch so Link A will be able to ride her.
6. Link B does his own thing in the shadows while, at the same time, the above events (Link A's actions) are happening.
7. Link A is sent back. He no longer exists in the future after this point. Only Link B is left. He continues into the future until he dies of natural causes (or bigfoot, aliens, or mimes).

Could #6 include the events of Twilight Princess?

[hippie_hunter]

Could #6 include the events of Twilight Princess?

No. If it is the Hero of Time in Twilight Princess, it would take place after the events of Ocarina of Time. Nintendo themselves have said that it takes place after the Ocarina of Time.

[hippie_hunter]

Well, read the IGN preview, it is definetly not the Hero of Time :(

[TheGrayGhost]

Well, read the IGN preview, it is definetly not the Hero of Time :(

Yeah, it took a while to adjust to the idea of a new Link, but it isn't a bad thing in the least, I just wish that the Hero of Time had a conclusion. He is, after all, the original Link in the timelines, as far as I am concerned. It's strange, though, that this game is reported to take place several decades after MM. If this game is supposed to bridge the gap between Majora's Mask and Wind Waker (and therefore explain how Hyrule was lost in the depths of the sea), I'm not sure how they're going to do it without the Hero of Time.

I happen to agree with your timeline, but the new timeline championed by Zelda enthusiasts now a days is that Minish Cap is first in the timeline.

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, it took a while to adjust to the idea of a new Link, but it isn't a bad thing in the least, I just wish that the Hero of Time had a conclusion. He is, after all, the original Link in the timelines, as far as I am concerned. It's strange, though, that this game is reported to take place several decades after MM. If this game is supposed to bridge the gap between Majora's Mask and Wind Waker (and therefore explain how Hyrule was lost in the depths of the sea), I'm not sure how they're going to do it without the Hero of Time.

They did say that the Hero of Time did not show up, allowing Ganondorf to take over. My guess, this Link tries to step up to the Hero of Time's plate but fails.

I happen to agree with your timeline, but the new timeline championed by Zelda enthusiasts now a days is that Minish Cap is first in the timeline.
But the Minish Cap is part of the Four Swords storyline, which I personally don't consider as part of continuity. Also, the game was developed by Flagship, and in my opinion, only the games developed by EAD are in continuity. It all depends on how you view things.

[Spidey-Bat]

where do games like Link to the Past, Awakening, Seasons, and Ages fall into this?

[hippie_hunter]

where do games like Link to the Past, Awakening, Seasons, and Ages fall into this?

A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening were developed by EAD and take place after the Wind Waker in a new Hyrule

Seasons and Ages are like the Four Swords series, try and put them somewhere and it just fudges things up. That's why I really don't consider the Flagship games to be in continuity.

[Spidey-Bat]

LA could take place in New Hyrule since it was about Link stranded on an island. But LttP I disagree with.

Here is a site that lists a possible chronology.

[hippie_hunter]

LA could take place in New Hyrule since it was about Link stranded on an island. But LttP I disagree with. I think that has to happen sometime before New Hyrule.

The Link from A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening are the same Link.

Also if you compare the two Hyrules of Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past, they are completely different.

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/ootimages/Map.gif

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/images/alttp/misc_2.jpg

Notice a lot of differences.

[MrHateYourself]

Ugh. It's like Trek and the difference in Klingon appearances; Doctor Who and the difference in Dalek appearances; etc.....different production teams with different ideas. It's that simple in most cases.

[DACrowe]

Well I know most fans have their theories, but I honestly don't think Hyrule is supposed to rise again after Wind Waker.

I just replayed that game and it is made very clear that the land Zelda (Tetra) and Link are going to find will NOT be Hyrule at the king's request and demand, but a new land for the future. Hyrule is dead and buried forever.

Which to me makes all 2D Zelda games besides A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening (which was a dream anyway) very hard to place.

My theory is becoming more and more that there is a different timeline for 3D Zelda games.

First of all I never bought into that alternate timeline BS, I think hippie hunter nailed on the head what I thought of the ending for the last 7 years to Ocarina of Time. After that, Majora's Mask clearly follows. And Wind Waker is clearly the descendants of OOT as that story is the one specified in the opening sequences and when you go down to Hyrule (old Hyrule) besides clues down there of it being the obvious (including the Hero of Time's statue) there is the stained glass windows of the Six Sages from OOT.

Now the gap is when Hyrule was flooded. My guess is Twilight Princess is about the new Link taking place over the old Hero of Time who has passed away (whether with Zelda or not) and his failings to save Hyrule and would thus connect the saga and complete the 3D Zelda world.

Now considering that GAnon was locked away in the Sacred Realm at the end of OOT and he escapes and plunges the world into darkness in A Link to the Past to me that would fit wondedrfully between MM and TP though it would disagree heavily with WW's legend.

And you can tack Link's Awakening in the dreamlike state onto that with it and even Fourswords/Minsh Cap if you want (though I consider it a non-entity). Which only leaves out the ORacles, which I don't count, Phillips, which I also don't count and the NES games. And much like the ORacles games I think despite his cyncism that HateMyself was quite right some of it is just branched off of itself as the same idea with different storylines and that is the NES games and Orcale games then.

Just my theory though.

BTW the map in OOT was awesome for its day and is still great fun to explore. Though it is dated I still get a kick out of more than the much more populated and much bigger but far duller Great SEa world of Wind Waker though.

[hippie_hunter]

Well I know most fans have their theories, but I honestly don't think Hyrule is supposed to rise again after Wind Waker.

I just replayed that game and it is made very clear that the land Zelda (Tetra) and Link are going to find will NOT be Hyrule at the king's request and demand, but a new land for the future. Hyrule is dead and buried forever.

Which to me makes all 2D Zelda games besides A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening (which was a dream anyway) very hard to place.

My theory is becoming more and more that there is a different timeline for 3D Zelda games.

First of all I never bought into that alternate timeline BS, I think hippie hunter nailed on the head what I thought of the ending for the last 7 years to Ocarina of Time. After that, Majora's Mask clearly follows. And Wind Waker is clearly the descendants of OOT as that story is the one specified in the opening sequences and when you go down to Hyrule (old Hyrule) besides clues down there of it being the obvious (including the Hero of Time's statue) there is the stained glass windows of the Six Sages from OOT.

Now the gap is when Hyrule was flooded. My guess is Twilight Princess is about the new Link taking place over the old Hero of Time who has passed away (whether with Zelda or not) and his failings to save Hyrule and would thus connect the saga and complete the 3D Zelda world.

Now considering that GAnon was locked away in the Sacred Realm at the end of OOT and he escapes and plunges the world into darkness in A Link to the Past to me that would fit wondedrfully between MM and TP though it would disagree heavily with WW's legend.

And you can tack Link's Awakening in the dreamlike state onto that with it and even Fourswords/Minsh Cap if you want (though I consider it a non-entity). Which only leaves out the ORacles, which I don't count, Phillips, which I also don't count and the NES games. And much like the ORacles games I think despite his cyncism that HateMyself was quite right some of it is just branched off of itself as the same idea with different storylines and that is the NES games and Orcale games then.

Just my theory though.

BTW the map in OOT was awesome for its day and is still great fun to explore. Though it is dated I still get a kick out of more than the much more populated and much bigger but far duller Great SEa world of Wind Waker though.

Link's Awakening is in continuity despite being a dream. Despite never actually happening, it still somewhat happened within the Hero of Legend's mind.

[kainedamo]

One of the Zelda games was all a dream?? Oh boy!

[Mentok]

Have no fear people, 15 minutes of playing TP on the Wii and I am convinced its amazing.

[TheGrayGhost]

Have no fear people, 15 minutes of playing TP on the Wii and I am convinced its amazing.

Jesus Christ! Where the hell do you live and how are you able to play it?

[Lackey]

Hey guys,

Zelda is cool

Fin

:heart: Kipobe



I almost got lost in this thread, but Kipobe was there to help me find my way. :heart::dryhump::o

[War Party]

http://i1.tinypic.com/mkaetw.jpg

[JustABill]

:wow:

What the h-e-l-l is that cool badass mothertrucking thing? :wow:

[War Party]

:wow:

What the h-e-l-l is that cool badass mothertrucking thing? :wow:

It's fake. I was pretending it was real, but then I was afraid I would get in trouble with a mod. I edited some of my posts. But it's still cool, but I would never play with it.

[JustABill]

It's very cool for a fake. I can just imagine the shield being motion senstivie and rising over your face to have Link protect himself. :)

It'd be badass, but you'd like even more retarded than you already will with the Wii Mote.

[MrHateYourself]

It's fake. I was pretending it was real, but then I was afraid I would get in trouble with a mod. I edited some of my posts. But it's still cool, but I would never play with it.

CRUEL. I would still call it a ridiculous idea, but that's a NICE shield replica.

[Kipobe]

Some new screenshots out today, but here's just a couple:

Looks as though this'll be one of Link's alternate shields:

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/screens/twilight_princess/ZELDA_WII_APPROVED_SESSION_2_(9).jpg

Pure beauty:

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/screens/twilight_princess/ZELDA_WII_APPROVED_SESSION_2_(8).jpg

[Spidey-Bat]

That looks like the initial one (probably Hero's Sheild). Then you get the Hylian one followed by the good 'ol mirror shield.

[Axid]

Great videos (updated throughout tonight and the weekend) on IGN. Awsome video of a path in Hyrule and Twilight castle settings

[TheGrayGhost]

Great videos (updated throughout tonight and the weekend) on IGN. Awsome video of a path in Hyrule and Twilight castle settings

SPOILER WARNING

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748589/vids_1.html

That's the link, in case anyone else is interested.

[AirKnight82]

I just can't wait for Wii and this killer sweet game! thanks for the pixs peoples

[Electro UK]

Just pre-ordered my Gamecube copy.

[Spidey-Bat]

I've had my GC copy preordered since January.

[Electro UK]

I've had my GC copy preordered since January.

Well I'm not such a big a fan as everyone else.

Hence not posting in here really. This game will go down as one of the best ever, but I've never got too into the series.

[kainedamo]

Never too late to get into it. What makes you so sure that this will go down as one of the best ever when you're not a big fan of Zelda? Can you just see the buzz other people are making?

[Electro UK]

Never too late to get into it. What makes you so sure that this will go down as one of the best ever when you're not a big fan of Zelda? Can you just see the buzz other people are making?

Because, in my books Orcarina of Time is one of the best games ever, I've just never really gotten into the series. Never bothered with any handheld titles, passed on Majora's Mask and 4 Swords etc.

I've been hearing a lot from people that this will be better than OoT, and if its anywhere near as awesome as that, it'll still be one of the best games ever imo.

[kainedamo]

Technically, it should be the superior game.

TPs music will be done entirely by orchestra, which will be awesome.

It will be graphically superior. Link looks to be very detailed. It looks like a lovely game graphically.

It will be much larger, with more dungeons than ever. And they're saying it's gonna take, what was it? 40 minutes to ride around Hyrule on horse??

The Wiimote will add a whole new factor. The fishing looks incredible. They've made it so the movement of the controller will swing Link's sword, and you will be able to aim your bow and arrow with the controller. Who knows what else they'll do with the Wiimote.

Am I missing anything?

[Spidey-Bat]

I think it's 40 minutes on Epona to completely explore Hyrule.

[블라스]

This game makes me weak in the knees :(

[JustABill]

40 minutes? Jesus tap dancing christ!

[kainedamo]

40 minutes? Jesus tap dancing christ!


I wish they'd do a MAX Spider-Woman series :(

[JustABill]

Why? It's not like Max automatically makes the book better? :rolleyes:

[kainedamo]

Think about it... Max... what they could get away with in a Max book... lol.

[hippie_hunter]

Think about it... Max... what they could get away with in a Max book... lol.

LAME

[JustABill]

Yes. Jessica is a sexy woman, but my god.....she's a cartoooooooon.

[Electro UK]

40 minutes? Jesus tap dancing christ!

Yeah, I don't want it do be TOO big. WW had me so bored just waiting to get from place to place, eneimes you fought on the way only annyoed me more cause they slowed you down on about what was already a 5 minute journey of just looking at the screen.

[Axid]

I hope its all of Hyrule, not just the field :o

[Axid]

Combat Training video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uttOtQ3f7Ts

[JustABill]

Hmm. I can't wait to get this game. <3

[Spidey-Bat]

I hope I can get it when I get my Wii. It MUST be the very first Wii game I play. I will not play ANY game on my Wii until TP is the very first one.

[JustABill]

Zelda is gonna be very hard to find during the holidays. I think it's the one game that Nintendo will have trouble making enough of.

[Spidey-Bat]

I disagree. They know it will be the hottest game and they will be sure to have enough out.

[comicman]

Well, I have to say, Epona looks amazing. Very detailed.

The way things are going, this could very well knock OOT off the top spot as best game ever made.

[MrHateYourself]

TThey've made it so the movement of the controller will swing Link's sword

Or rather, a slight twitch left or right, Not actually swinging, nor will it replicate your movements. So a twitch of the wrist instead of a twitch of the thumb.

and you will be able to aim your bow and arrow with the controller.

By pressing a button and aiming. So basically the same as a traditional controller as well.

Am I missing anything?

You forgot about raising your shield by pressing a button, just like on a traditional controller.

If it tracks aiming like the Wii Sports shooting minigame, it'll be great for aiming the bow and hookshot......but other than that?

[Shifty]

https://store.nintendo.com/wcsstore/NOASTORE/noaimages/NC57753.jpg

https://store.nintendo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&langId=-1&currency=USD&ignoreCrumbs=N&crumb1=&crumb1Ignore=&crumb2=&crumb2Ignore=&crumb3=&crumb3Ignore=&translateFrom=%25C8%25C9%25C7&translateTo=EEC&usrSearchText=&searchText=&selSrchType=&page=&view=&productId=115707&categoryId=14712&lastAction=ProductDisplay&orderTotal=null
You’ll get a one year (12 issues) subscription to Nintendo Power Magazine, the Zelda: Twilight Princess Player’s Guide and Zelda: Twilight Princess Soundtrack CD! Please allow 4 to 6 weeks for delivery of your first issue.

The Zelda: Twilight Princess Player’s Guide will begin shipping the week of November 19, 2006 and will take 4-6 weeks for delivery.

The Zelda: Twilight Princess Soundtrack CD will begin shipping the week of January 22, 2007 and will take 4-6 for delivery.

The Zelda: Twilight Princess Player’s Guide features:

* Complete, detailed walkthrough
* Maps of every region and dungeon
* Detailed boss-slaying strategies
* Find every Piece of Heart, insect, and Poe’s Soul

The Zelda: Twilight Princess Soundtrack CD includes the following tracks:

* The Legend of Zelda: Orchestra Piece #2
* Hyrule Field Main Theme
* Odron Village
* Kakariko Village
* Death Mountain
* Midna’s Theme
* Ilia’s Theme

[MrHateYourself]

.....soundtrack, you say? My morals tell me that downloading it is wrong, and I shouldn't.....but on the other hand, is it any more immoral than subscribing to NP?!

[SLYspyder]

Well, I have to say, Epona looks amazing. Very detailed.

The way things are going, this could very well knock OOT off the top spot as best game ever made.

wind waker should not be overlooked

[SLYspyder]

Actually It's

Ocarina of Time - takes place in ancient Hyrule

Majora's Mask - sequel to Ocarina of Time

Twilight Princess - takes place in ancient Hyrule

The Wind Waker - this game takes place in the sea above ancient Hyrule, heavily connected to the Hero of Time

Phantom Hourglass - sequel to the Wind Waker

A Link to the Past - this game takes place in a new Hyrule, the one that the Hero of the Winds and Tetra went out to discover

Link's Adventure - sequel to A Link to the Past

the Legend of Zelda - A Link to the Past was said to take place before the first Legend of Zelda game

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link - sequel to the Legend of Zelda

makes sense to me

[jaydawg]

Holy ****balls!! The Poes are back!

[SLYspyder]

wmv file versions (saveable)

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/videos/twilight_princess/Zelda_Wii_AttractMovie_small.wmv

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/videos/twilight_princess/Zelda_Wii_OpeningMovie_small.wmv

Plus there's tons and tons and tons of spoilers leaked all over the net despite Nintendo's attempts to keep them under wraps. Find and read at your own risk. Personally, I insist on not touching the forbidden fruit before November 19th! :cmad:

i just love the feeling i get when I hear that zelda theme in the 4th quarter of the trailer.

is why i have most of the score from Wind Waker and OOT on CD.

[DACrowe]

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time = Best game ever made.

10,000 posts now! :p

[jaydawg]

Properly post as well.

I wonder if my pre order will actually hold the game......

[hippie_hunter]

Ganondorf looks so badass in this game!

[TheCardPlayer]

Damn...I didn't preorder a Wii, nor Zelda.


I hope there will still be some available...

[JustABill]

I don't believe I've seen Ganondorf nor Zelda.

Well, I take that back I saw the picture of Zelda holding the sword, but I haven't actually seen her in game.

[hippie_hunter]

I don't believe I've seen Ganondorf nor Zelda.

Well, I take that back I saw the picture of Zelda holding the sword, but I haven't actually seen her in game.

Princess Zelda

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Tloztp_princesszelda.jpg

Ganondorf
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/SolidusSnake/IMG_1330.jpg

[JustABill]

Looking at pretty graphics like that makes me want an epic live action Zelda movie. :(

[Spidey-Bat]

It looks like they dropped the big eared, big nosed version of Ganondorf from OoT. Now it's like a OoT graphic version of the Wind Waker version. :up:

[jaydawg]

I love OoT Ganondorf way more than the WW look. I'll take Persian influences over Japanese ones anyday. They seem to blend better IMO with Hyrule.

[Spidey-Bat]

Perisan influence? What was Persian?

[hippie_hunter]

It looks like they dropped the big eared, big nosed version of Ganondorf from OoT. Now it's like a OoT graphic version of the Wind Waker version. :up:

Ganondorf from the Wind Waker possess big ears and a big nose

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Ganon_ww.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Ganondorf.jpg

If you ask me he looks more like the Ocarina of Time version with the Wind Waker version's beard. The Wind Waker version also looked much, much older and less evil.

[Axid]

Pretty fat :o

[jaydawg]

Ganondorf just had an Ancient Persia feel to him. The colors, the designs and patterns on his wardrobe. It felt very much like a Persian theif in the Zelda world.

[Spidey-Bat]

Ganondorf from the Wind Waker possess big ears and a big nose

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Ganon_ww.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Ganondorf.jpg

If you ask me he looks more like the Ocarina of Time version with the Wind Waker version's beard. The Wind Waker version also looked much, much older and less evil.


WW Ganondorf has a roman-esque nose and not as noticeable ears. OoT Ganondorf had REALLY noticeable ears and weren't the elven shape and had a HUGE nose.

[jaydawg]

I love it when people think I'm Jewish. Then I tell them I'm Greek and then they're all "Oh yeah, you have a Roman nose." WTF?

But I digress. Give me lighting ball throwing Ganondorf than Kitanna twirling Ganondorf anyday.

[Spidey-Bat]

Why was the fat Ganondorf the expert swordsman?

I think the TP Ganondorf combines the ferocity of OoT Ganondorf with the less ugly WW Ganondorf.

[CantThinkOfAName]

I love it when people think I'm Jewish. Then I tell them I'm Greek and then they're all "Oh yeah, you have a Roman nose." WTF?

But I digress. Give me lighting ball throwing Ganondorf than Kitanna twirling Ganondorf anyday.
Great, I wasnt sure, but now i can make jokes about how OOT Gannon is a total Jew:up:




I mean, King of Thieves, COME ON!

[TheCardPlayer]

I'm calling it....



BEST GAME EVER.


I know I'm right.

[jaydawg]

Great, I wasnt sure, but now i can make jokes about how OOT Gannon is a total Jew:up:




I mean, King of Thieves, COME ON!
Ha ha, this racism is always gold!

[Lackey]

I love it when people think I'm Jewish. Then I tell them I'm Greek and then they're all "Oh yeah, you have a Roman nose." WTF?

But I digress. Give me lighting ball throwing Ganondorf than Kitanna twirling Ganondorf anyday.


Greeks are just Jews without money. :csad:

[Electro UK]

Aw nuts, I didn't wanna know if Ganondorf was in it or not. I was generally really surprised to see him in Wind Waker.

Nuts. :(

[Kipobe]

Hey, to whoever was asking me about picking up Twilight Princess BEFORE launch:

http://www.thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1163633667&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4&

[Spidey-Bat]

Damn. I wish my Best Buy wasn't so far out of the way.

[VaderRISE]

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v325/bigopinion/TPManual/

Twilight Princess Manual^^^

[Spidey-Bat]

I looked at some pages but stopped. I dont want to be spoiled.

[jaydawg]

Greeks are just Jews without money. :csad:
Does that mean all those rich Greek families I know are secretly Jewish? :wow:

[The Don Killuminati]

yes an epic movie is definately needed....preferbly a 5 part , 2h 30m each, peter jackson or gore verbinksi,

who would you cast for this, if it were to happen

Link- Orlando Bloom (terrible choice i know, but i cant really think of anyone else to play link)

Gannondorf - Mickey Rourke? this is a real tough one to cast.

Zelda- Scarlett Johannson, Kate Winslet or Biel, all could work.

Darunia - John Goodman, makeup and costume of course

Syria - Dakota Fanning (only young girl actress i could think of)

Ruto - Jessica alba (yes terrible, but who else?)

Nabooru - Angelina Jolie, imagine her in a sexy thief outift,,damn.

Impa - Chyna (dont know her real name but was in the WWF)

[Spidey-Bat]

Mickey Rourke or Ron Perlman for Ganondorf. Chyna for Impa? She cannot act.

[Silvermoth]

I dislike Orlando Bloom, hes such a wet actor. Gore Verdinski as a director is pretty cool though. Here are my choices, just to play along, set to Ocarina of Time...

Adult Link - Shane West
Adult Zelda - Sarah Carter
Young Zelda - Dakota Fanning
Young Link - Oliver Davis
Adult Malon - Emily Blunt
Young Malon - Kate Mara
Gannondorf - Liev Shreiber
Rauru the Sage - Bernard Hill
Saria the Sage - Georgie Henley
Darunia the Sage - Brian Blessed
Adult Princess Ruto the Sage - Shirley Henderson
Impa the Sage - Jada Pinkett Smith
Nabooru the Sage - Lucy Lawless
Young Princess Ruto - Heather Matarazzo
King Zora - Jim Broadbent
Anju (Cucco Lady) - Tasha de Vasconcelos
Navi (Voice) - Jennifer Garner
Great Deku Tree (Voice) - Patrick Stewert
Deku Tree Sprout (Voice) - Cameron Bright
Talon - Robbie Coltrane
Ingo - John Leguizamo
Mido - Thomas Sangster

[Kipobe]

GREAT preview video up over at Gametrailers.com if you haven't seen it already:

http://moses.gametrailers.com/streambuilder.php?type=wmv&streamtext=ad:black_short::m:t_zelda_twilightprinc ess_vp_gt::m:black

Note, there are minor spoilers there... for example, I saw Link in a different Tunic that I thought was only a rumored possibility in the game... but looks like it's a reality... but it's really an impressive look.

One thing to remember for everyone who attacks Nintendo's graphics so much: Ocarina of Time was N64 graphics... TP is GC graphics.... only ONE generation between them. Look at the difference between the two games in terms of beauty. There's a quick cut to OoT in this preview, and the difference is stunning.

And like I said, that's GC's graphics. When TP first showed up, it was promising to knock off RE4 as the most beautiful GC game and one of the greatest games that gen... the Wii will be able to step things up even more.

If this is what we're getting now, imagine what we'll recieve down the line with a Zelda game built from scratch for the Wii with possible 1:1 controls (or at least a control scheme specifically designed for the Wii) and Wii-powered graphics.

:heart:

[Kipobe]

*edit - dead link. Try this one:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15086&type=wmv&pl=game

[Not Jake]

Oh em gee this game is going to be the end of me and my D-grades:csad:

[Lackey]

it's more important than education :up:

[SLYspyder]

GREAT preview video up over at Gametrailers.com if you haven't seen it already:

http://moses.gametrailers.com/streambuilder.php?type=wmv&streamtext=ad:black_short::m:t_zelda_twilightprinc ess_vp_gt::m:black

Note, there are minor spoilers there... for example, I saw Link in a different Tunic that I thought was only a rumored possibility in the game... but looks like it's a reality... but it's really an impressive look.

One thing to remember for everyone who attacks Nintendo's graphics so much: Ocarina of Time was N64 graphics... TP is GC graphics.... only ONE generation between them. Look at the difference between the two games in terms of beauty. There's a quick cut to OoT in this preview, and the difference is stunning.

And like I said, that's GC's graphics. When TP first showed up, it was promising to knock off RE4 as the most beautiful GC game and one of the greatest games that gen... the Wii will be able to step things up even more.

If this is what we're getting now, imagine what we'll recieve down the line with a Zelda game built from scratch for the Wii with possible 1:1 controls (or at least a control scheme specifically designed for the Wii) and Wii-powered graphics.

:heart:


are you sure TP is on GC graphics? i thought the graphics were upgraded for the Wii. Anyways, we'll know when it comes out from the GC and we see those screenshots.

[Orko Is King]

I heard that graphically, the GC and Wii versions were more or less the same.

[Spidey-Bat]

The Wii version is definitely better.

[Kipobe]

There's something you guys are missing though... as much as the Wii version will look clearer and cleaner (maybe), at best it's still a GC title because you can only improve so much at that point in development.

Every report out there says the same thing... it's a marginal boost. Imagine porting a NES game to the Wii. How much better will it really look? It wasn't built for it, so graphically it's not gonna use up all the power the newer system has.

Marginal difference... it's still a GC/last gen title. But I'll be damned if it's not sexy as hell. The Wii has yet to really show what it can do visually.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Greeks are just Jews without money. :csad:
I cant believe I didnt go for that one:eek::csad:

[CantThinkOfAName]

it's more important than education :up:
and SIDS. I mean, if you're not a baby:csad:

[Kipobe]

Heh, SIDS is baby cancer.

That's not a joke, more of a PSA really.

[MrHateYourself]

Casting.....Jared Leto has that Link look.

[Spidey-Bat]

Ugh. I have tried as hard as I can NOT to get the strategy guide, but I am stuck and there are no FAQs online. Right now I have a small key in the Forest Temple, but cannot pass through this one area b/c of the tile monsters. I cannot cross a gap b/c the bridges don't align and I haven't saved enough monkey's.

[Shifty]

Ugh. I have tried as hard as I can NOT to get the strategy guide, but I am stuck and there are no FAQs online. Right now I have a small key in the Forest Temple, but cannot pass through this one area b/c of the tile monsters. I cannot cross a gap b/c the bridges don't align and I haven't saved enough monkey's.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928519&topic=31888862

[terry78]

Ugh. I have tried as hard as I can NOT to get the strategy guide, but I am stuck and there are no FAQs online. Right now I have a small key in the Forest Temple, but cannot pass through this one area b/c of the tile monsters. I cannot cross a gap b/c the bridges don't align and I haven't saved enough monkey's.
:dry:

I will assume because I have yet to play that's some integral part of the game.

[Kipobe]

Heh, it sounds weird if you didn't spend your whole morning looking for monkeys.

[Kipobe]

Anyway, I went against what I said and I popped in Zelda despite not having the component cables yet. This game is stunning. I love the opening moments with Link sitting on the ground talking to Rusl.

I'm really taking my time with this one, and trying to immerse myself in the whole experience. I've logged 9 hours 15 mins between yesterday and today, and I've only just completed the first dungeon, starting on the second. Great game so far.

[Spidey-Bat]

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928519&topic=31888862

That doesn't help me. I don't even have the Gale Boomerang. I need it but I have no clue as to where to go.

EDIT: I am an idiot. You can cross certain tiles.

[Speedball]

Casting.....Jared Leto has that Link look.
Yeah he does. He's not very tall, same height as me actually, 5 foot 10 inches. And he's thin. Too bad he's old, he's in his thirties.

[Fran]

Link's name in my game: LuGWit

Epona's name in my game: Borat :up:

[Speedball]

HAHAHAHA!!!
wait...that's not really funny. poor horse. I bet she wishs LuGWit would send her to the glue factory.

[Zenien]

I'm sitll in the main village and about all that I've done so far is gotten the fishing rod and knocked down the bees nest. Why does fishing suck so badly, seriously. I'm trying to catch a fish because that's apparently what I'm suppose to do to tempt the cat or something and it's retarded. THe fishign instructions don't even match up with what it tells me in game since the instructions say 'Hold down A' and use the A button for everything yet the A button is the automatic quit button. WTF.