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Speedball
08-22-2006, 04:45 PM
I'll start it off with an interview from 1up.


Reinventing a franchise is never an easy task -- especially when that franchise is notorious for starting out great and slowly sinking into mediocrity. But now that former developer/publisher Acclaim is long gone (at least in terms of the company -- the name lingers on via a Korean company), new publisher Buena Vista and developer Propaganda Games are attempting to revive the Turok license and showing a lot of potential in the early stages. We checked in with Propaganda's Josh Holmes to get an update on the game before its second press showing at Games Convention starting tomorrow in Leipzig, Germany. Also be sure to check out exclusive new screens of the game on our media page.


1UP: The main character seems to be quite different from what was in the old games. Why did you guys decide to make this shift but retain the Turok name?
JH: The first Turok game on N64 was inspired by the classic comic book series and managed to capture the spirit of those comics while establishing all new characters, an original storyline and a mythology all its own. The result was a fantastic game that captured the imagination of gamers everywhere. We want to take a similar approach with this game, moving it in an exciting new direction while remaining faithful to the spirit of the original property. The main character of Joseph Turok fits in perfectly with this vision, while retaining many of the characteristics that made the original Turoks so compelling.

1UP: Obviously the new Turok is very different from the old Turok, but are there any specific elements from the old games you are bringing back to add some nostalgia? Maybe an Easter Egg or two?
JH: As a big fan of the original games, I'm confident that die-hard Turok lovers will recognize many familiar elements incorporated into this new game. http://www.1up.com/flat/Images/490_round_corners_top.gif
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2997103 (http://www.1up.com/do/media?cId=3150132)While seemingly effective, we're not so sure it's smart to use a flamethrower in a jungle. Just a thought. Click the image above to check out all Turok screens.http://www.1up.com/flat/Images/490_round_corners_bottom.gif

1UP: Along those same lines, are there any particular elements from the old game you are consciously leaving out of the next-gen game, maybe that feel dated or out of place?

JH: Turok was a groundbreaking game when it first came out on the N64, but as the series progressed the enemies became increasingly outlandish and far-fetched. We are pursuing a much more believable vision. We're dropping the gun-wielding dinosaurs and cyborg zombies and going with terrifying creatures and human enemies that use a combination of advanced tactics to hunt you down.
Our initial calculations show that this results in a game experience that is approximately 1.7 billion times cooler. The numbers don't lie!

1UP: In recent years, it seems like King Kong has probably gotten the most credit for being a good dinosaur game. Was there anything in particular from that game that impressed you or that influenced Turok?
JH: King Kong came out after we were well into the design phase for Turok, so most of our ideas were solidified at that point. It was a good game, and we were most impressed by the sense of immersion achieved by stripping away the interface graphics (or HUD), allowing the player to focus on the action without the distraction of game elements like health bars or ammo counts. This was a design choice also reflected in Call of Duty 2, another fine game released at around the same time. It's a very effective approach for first-person games where immersion is such a key to the experience, and after playing these two games we made the decision to implement a damage system that does not use a traditional health bar. We're very happy with the results.

1UP: One of the elements in King Kong game was that the player often felt overpowered by dinosaurs around him as a human. Are you planning for scenes like this in the game, where the creatures are so large that it's better to avoid them than attack head on?
JH: Take a second to think about what it would be like to actually face dinosaurs in a hostile jungle environment... it would be absolutely terrifying. Your first impulse would be to get the hell out of there and keep those things away from you at any cost. This becomes increasingly apparent the larger the dino is that you are facing. Can you imagine purposely engaging something as large and powerful as a T-Rex? You'd have to be at least marginally insane.
This sense of intense fear was something we wanted to convey with all of our creatures. Dinosaurs in Turok are terrifying beasts of prey and in some cases the best solution is to avoid them or -- better yet -- trick them into attacking your enemies. That said, with the right amount of firepower nothing is impossible... and we give you access to a lot of firepower.

1UP: Some of the visuals we've seen from the game have reminded us of Gears of War. Obviously both games run on Unreal Engine 3, but do you guys see the art styles as being similar?
JH: We're flattered to draw comparisons to an exciting title like Gears of War, especially considering that Turok is coming out in the second half of next year, long after Gears is scheduled to release. That said, the two games are very different from one another and each has its own distinct visual style. Turok features many large open areas with an emphasis on lush outdoor environments. While the Unreal Engine 3 is a powerful suite of tools and technology, we've invested a lot of time at Propaganda expanding the capabilities of the engine to suit the look and feel of our game. http://www.1up.com/flat/Images/490_round_corners_top.gif
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2997104 (http://www.1up.com/do/media?cId=3150132)Everyone loves a good minigun for taking out swarms of enemies -- though maybe less so in multiplayer. Click the image above to check out all Turok screens.http://www.1up.com/flat/Images/490_round_corners_bottom.gif

1UP: Any plans for multiplayer in the game, either co-op or competitive?

JH: One of our objectives for the game is to deliver a unique multiplayer (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3152985#) experience with lots of depth, and we've applied substantial effort toward this goal. We aren't ready to reveal any details at this stage, except to say that it will kick ass.
Your ass to be exact.

1UP: The game is planned for release on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, but not Wii. Any particular reason for focusing on those first two?
JH: When we first began development on Turok, we focused on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 platforms based on the capabilities of those systems to deliver a truly next-generation experience. Like most gamers, we're looking forward to the Wii, but we have no plans to bring Turok to Nintendo's new console (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3152985#).

1UP: What can you tell us about what you'll be showing from the game at the Leipzig Games Convention [starting tomorrow]? JH: We're still keeping the game pretty close to vest at this point. We'll be showing the same demo that we showed at E3, along with a new sequence featuring a massive new creature. [We'll] also be showing the Germans that Canadians know how to drink beer (although I have to admit -- I'm secretly worried about our ability to keep up).

More pics to come in the next post.

Speedball
08-22-2006, 04:51 PM
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2999722&type=lg
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2999721&type=lg
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2871702&type=lg
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2871701&type=lg

Speedball
08-22-2006, 04:51 PM
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2871700&type=lg
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2871699&type=lg
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2871698&type=lg
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2871697&type=lg

Speedball
08-22-2006, 04:52 PM
I never really liked the original games, but I must say, this is very, VERY impressive looking.

Horrorfan
08-22-2006, 05:23 PM
Add this to another

''Horrorfan cared about this before anyone else though his thread was neglected'' pile, along with bioshock, dead rising, frontlines and a few others :(

It does look awesome though. I never liked the originals but this made me sit up and take notice.

Now its off to make an alone in the dark thread again before anyone jumps on that bandwagon :(

XwolverineX
08-22-2006, 06:47 PM
Add this to another

''Horrorfan cared about this before anyone else though his thread was neglected'' pile, along with bioshock, dead rising, frontlines and a few others :(

It does look awesome though. I never liked the originals but this made me sit up and take notice.

Now its off to make an alone in the dark thread again before anyone jumps on that bandwagon :(


Alone in the Dark looks like sex x 2.

Speedball
08-22-2006, 07:10 PM
Alone in the Dark looks like sex x 2.
sex times infinity.

Horrorfan
08-23-2006, 12:57 AM
It's started :(

Speedball
08-23-2006, 01:07 AM
I'll post stuff from Liepzig tomorrow(or today)

Edd Extraordinaire
08-23-2006, 03:06 AM
I really wish they'd make a game with a great knife.

WhatsHisFace
08-23-2006, 07:07 AM
This game looks garbageful. I doubt it will compare to the games of 2007.

Mentok
08-23-2006, 07:09 AM
I Iliked the first TUROK... It would be nice if this game was as much fun as the first one and not crap like all the others.

WhatsHisFace
08-23-2006, 07:20 AM
I personally thought Turok 1 was crap, Turok 2 was amazing and Turok 3 was decent.

Horrorfan
08-23-2006, 12:53 PM
This game looks garbageful. I doubt it will compare to the games of 2007.


You're kidding, right?


Thus far, this blows Too Human out of the water...

But then, I do have a dinosaur bias.

Speedball
08-23-2006, 01:03 PM
You're kidding, right?


Thus far, this blows Too Human out of the water...

But then, I do have a dinosaur bias.
ugghh...
Too Human looks really poor to me.
The collision detection in the videos was pretty much non-existant. And from a video I saw on G4, the camera angles are fixed and suck ass.

I think I have a Dinosaur bias as well. Why don't they just call this Jurassic Park, then I will be a VERY happy person.

WhatsHisFace
08-23-2006, 02:19 PM
ugghh...
Too Human looks really poor to me.
The collision detection in the videos was pretty much non-existant. And from a video I saw on G4, the camera angles are fixed and suck ass.
Please, just get informed on Too Human. Just... please.

Advanced Dark
08-25-2006, 12:23 AM
I loved these games. Evoloution was a blast though the frame rate sucked...still I enjoyed all the levels after the 3rd. This however looks freaking amazing.

WhatsHisFace
08-25-2006, 07:17 AM
I liked the three main N64 Turoks. This game seems to take itself too seriously though.

Advanced Dark
08-25-2006, 07:32 AM
Evoloution was actually a great game but the first 3 levels were so bad most people put it down. Level 4 reminded me of Rambo quite a bit, the weapons were bad ass, and the levels were very large and challenging. Those first 3 levels though...blah. However the frame rate was disgusting at times.

villejo
08-25-2006, 12:07 PM
This will be an awe inspiring game. It combines fantastic weapons with crazy ass dinosaurs. And it is beautiful. How could it be bad?

Mr. Vice
08-25-2006, 12:23 PM
How could it be bad?

If it has the same production team the last game had.:o

WhatsHisFace
08-26-2006, 06:16 AM
I'm a gambling man, so I bet this game turns out mediocre.

Advanced Dark
12-31-2007, 03:55 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/video/930158/6179020/turok-gameplay-movie-4

http://www.gamespot.com/video/930158/6184132/turok-gameplay-movie-15

Advanced Dark
12-31-2007, 03:56 PM
If it has the same production team the last game had.:o

The last game had some awesome gameplay, level design, and enemy AI. The problem was it was too much for the sytem to handle. Actually the 1st few levels were really poor, but after that they were really fun. The sniping was a blast.

Isildurīs Heir
12-31-2007, 03:58 PM
Iīm really hoping for this game to go right

Isildurīs Heir
01-15-2008, 09:07 AM
:mad: :mad:

It figures, the moment my 360 died, is the time the demo came out.
Just fu**ing great...

So, is it any good?

WhatsHisFace
01-15-2008, 10:22 AM
I'll give it a whirl and let you know in a few hours.

Apollo
01-15-2008, 11:52 AM
wait... the demos out on xbox live today!?!?

Isildurīs Heir
01-15-2008, 12:18 PM
Yep.
Everywhere exceot Japan and US

Apollo
01-15-2008, 12:32 PM
Yep.
Everywhere exceot Japan and US

Wonderful!! :cmad: :csad:

Spider-Vader
01-15-2008, 09:27 PM
Might get this game if I here good things about. Shooting Dinos sound fun!

ProjectPat2280
01-15-2008, 11:43 PM
Yep.
Everywhere exceot Japan and US

You ruined my day :csad:

Timstuff
01-16-2008, 12:59 AM
I am really looking forward to this game. I think it should be a solid re-launch of a classic franchise (which unfortunately lost it's street cred after people saw a Confederate soldier riding a T-Rex). I hope it's good, and I think it will be.

But why isn't this thread in Multiplatform games? It's on PS3 and PC too, ya know.

Apollo
01-16-2008, 12:16 PM
its going to be two player right?

Timstuff
01-17-2008, 10:46 PM
I just finished playing the Turok demo on PSN. It's pretty awesome indeed, and it feels a lot like a good 80's action movie like Predator. The graphics are very good, and the AI manages to stay consistent and provide a good challenge, which I figured would be the game's biggest hurdle if it was going to work the way the developers wanted it to. I'll probably be picking this game up once it's availible.

BTW, why is this thread still in the Xbox forum?

Lord of Flies
01-17-2008, 10:55 PM
Because no one loves the PS3. :csad:

Sort of like Tiny Tim.

WhatsHisFace
01-17-2008, 10:56 PM
Because it's about the 360 demo.

Lord of Flies
01-17-2008, 11:12 PM
I want the demo. :csad:

ProjectPat2280
01-17-2008, 11:16 PM
BTW, why is this thread still in the Xbox forum?

Dude, let it go. How much does Sony pay you man???

Lord of Flies
01-17-2008, 11:17 PM
Too much. :csad:

ProjectPat2280
01-17-2008, 11:19 PM
So why is this demo not out in the US for the 360....that blows, hard.

Timstuff
01-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Just to PO you guys I'm gonna start a "new official thread" in the multiplat section. :hoboj:

Lord of Flies
01-17-2008, 11:45 PM
I don't care, really. Go ahead. :heart:

WhatsHisFace
01-17-2008, 11:48 PM
We'll just make a "The True Official Thread" in the Superman Products forum.

Timstuff
01-18-2008, 12:01 AM
Hey, it's a free country. Well, unless Hilary gets elected.

WhatsHisFace
01-18-2008, 12:01 AM
I should start making an evacuation plan just in case she does.

Lord of Flies
01-18-2008, 12:08 AM
Then it's every man for himself. Which candidate said that they would ban violent video games the moment they got into office, anyways?

Oh yeah, and some of the quotes from Republican candidates are just as hilarious. Mitt Romney was quoted as saying that he would "Bar Muslims from my cabinet", Giulani said that "Freedom is about authority", Fred Thompson said that, "Federal judges seem intent on eliminating God from the public schools in ways that would astound the Founding Fathers" (Fun Fact: Most of the Founding Fathers were Deists, some were Atheists, only a few were actually hardcore Christians, almost all were wary of religion) Mike Huckabee said that: "Most" of the founding fathers were clergymen. (Same fun fact as before, plus only 1 out of 56 was a clergyman) and said he would quarantine AIDS patients. McCain: Voted for a bill that abolished rights of foreign detainees.

As you can see, they're all quality candidates just itching to enhance our personal freedoms.

ProjectPat2280
01-18-2008, 11:34 AM
Guys, stop with the political crap, keep that garbage somewhere else. We dont need the clutter in this section.

Lord of Flies
01-18-2008, 01:19 PM
Sorry, when the topic is brought up I have to discuss... :csad:

ProjectPat2280
01-18-2008, 03:08 PM
Sorry, when the topic is brought up I have to discuss... :csad:


You really didn't discuss, u just posted a bunch of out of context quotes in hopes to start a flame fest. I dont blame you but we all need to keep that junk to a minimum in this forum.

Anyway, I have a subscription to OXM and I'd like to know why they refuse to send me a demo disc. This usually doesnt bug me, but this month the Turok demo was on it. So does anyone know when/if the demo is gonna hit the marketplace??

WhatsHisFace
01-18-2008, 03:10 PM
Forget the OXM and just download demos online.

블라스
01-18-2008, 03:13 PM
This game looks like the ****tiest **** ever **** upon Earth.
Call it a Dinosaur "Army of Two/GHOST RECON 2", if you will.

WhatsHisFace
01-18-2008, 03:15 PM
I hate what's happening to the Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six franchises. They're just the same towns over and over again.

Mexico and Las Vegas. Over and over again until next-generation consoles.

WhatsHisFace
01-18-2008, 03:16 PM
I hate what's happening to the Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six franchises. They're just the same towns over and over again.

Mexico and Las Vegas. Over and over again until next-generation consoles.

블라스
01-18-2008, 03:35 PM
GR2 can throw itself off a building and land on Byrkree (2 birds, 1 stone).

WhatsHisFace
01-18-2008, 03:40 PM
I wish SplinterCell was more of the traditional stealth game that the series originated as... but if you compare it to Ubi's other franchises which are just re-using old assets, I'll take Conviction's route over any of them.

블라스
01-18-2008, 03:43 PM
I'm guessing Bourne Conspiracy will be better than all of the Tom Clancy games combined.

WhatsHisFace
01-18-2008, 03:44 PM
Yeah, um... I'm gonna hafta err... go ahead and disagree with you there. Peter's been really flakey lately...

But really, Bourne is being made by a lame developer, isn't it?

블라스
01-18-2008, 03:51 PM
No! High Moon Studios did DARKWATCH, which has a 77.4% on Gamerankings.
Take THAT.

WhatsHisFace
01-18-2008, 03:53 PM
Do you merely want an "above average" Bourne game? :(

블라스
01-18-2008, 03:56 PM
Yes.

WhatsHisFace
01-18-2008, 04:02 PM
Well in order to dethrone SplinterCell it needs to be exemplary!

블라스
01-18-2008, 04:03 PM
Not really :(
It just needs not to suck :up:

Spider-Vader
01-18-2008, 04:14 PM
Hey, it's a free country. Well, unless Hilary gets elected.

DON'T SAY THAT! You're gonna give me nightmares.

ProjectPat2280
01-18-2008, 04:32 PM
Forget the OXM and just download demos online.


Yea thats what iv always done but this month Turok was on the demo disc so thats kinda why I brought it up.

Timstuff
01-19-2008, 07:03 PM
There you have it-- the demo wasn't released on the US XBL because obviously they want people to buy the Xbox Magazine to play it, and probably have a deal to postpone the XBL release of it. Case solved.

ProjectPat2280
01-19-2008, 07:14 PM
There you have it-- the demo wasn't released on the US XBL because obviously they want people to buy the Xbox Magazine to play it, and probably have a deal to postpone the XBL release of it. Case solved.


Ah, well the game looks like it kinda sucks so its not too big of a deal.

Purple Prancer
01-19-2008, 07:16 PM
Kinda? KINDA?

Spider-Vader
01-19-2008, 10:06 PM
There you have it-- the demo wasn't released on the US XBL because obviously they want people to buy the Xbox Magazine to play it, and probably have a deal to postpone the XBL release of it. Case solved.
Heh heh. A free magazine redemption form came with my 360 I sent it in, so it should be here soon. :woot:

Timstuff
01-19-2008, 10:08 PM
Just make sure you follow these handy instructions.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6591/20070718xo7.jpg

Spider-Vader
01-19-2008, 11:25 PM
Lol.

ProjectPat2280
01-19-2008, 11:35 PM
I still never received a demo disk with any of my magazines. 12 issues, no discs, but everything on the disc ends up on the marketplace anyway.

WhatsHisFace
01-24-2008, 08:04 PM
Just make sure you follow these handy instructions.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6591/20070718xo7.jpg

That is so true. OXM is/was a horrible magazine.

cookiva
01-24-2008, 08:06 PM
Turok Is Like Tur Cock...it Will Suck

WhatsHisFace
01-24-2008, 08:15 PM
Will suck factor is only at about 64% as of now... I've seen worse.

Of course, I've seen better suck as well.

ProjectPat2280
01-24-2008, 08:26 PM
Turok Is Like Tur Cock...it Will Suck


Yea, i gotta second this.

Fran
01-26-2008, 09:51 PM
I played the demo from OXM the other day. It's not bad. But not "OMG AMAZING" either.

Very solid graphics. And Ron Perlman too.

WhatsHisFace
01-26-2008, 10:15 PM
Ron Perlman didn't save Conan. He won't save this.

deathshead2
01-26-2008, 10:33 PM
Ron Perlman didn't save Conan. He won't save this.
What you talking about Whatshisface?

WhatsHisFace
01-26-2008, 10:36 PM
Ron Perlman voiced Conan in the recently released videogame, called Conan. It wasn't very good, even with Perlman's efforts.

deathshead2
01-26-2008, 10:37 PM
I see.
I thought you were talking about his Conan red nails dtv moive thing he did.

guitarsingerguy
01-27-2008, 06:30 PM
Ron Perlman voiced Conan in the recently released videogame, called Conan. It wasn't very good, even with Perlman's efforts.

As much as I love Ron Perlman I honestly thought his voice work in that game demo was pretty bad. :(

WhatsHisFace
01-27-2008, 07:23 PM
He was great in Riddick and the Halo sequels.

guitarsingerguy
01-27-2008, 07:29 PM
He was great in Riddick and the Halo sequels.

Sadly I never played Riddick, but he was great in Halo.

ProjectPat2280
01-27-2008, 08:10 PM
As much as I love Ron Perlman I honestly thought his voice work in that game demo was pretty bad. :(


Yea, and it was even worse in the full game. Come to think of it, that whole game was just down right bad.