After re-watching "Transformers the Movie" Last Night

[blackcobra]

What a ****ing abomination. Michael Bay couldn't damage the franchise as much as that movie did. They took the heart and soul, out of the most prized franchise of it's time, and riped it to oblivion. Im sorry but you can't have a true Transfomers Movie by killing off the Characters that made the series what it was. Killing Prime, Starscream, Megatron (I know, but Galvatron Sucks compared to Megs) Prowl, Iron Hide, Wheeljack, Skywarp, Thundercracker, basically the main cast. Then replaced it with a bunch of newcomers. They were ok, but I rather have Ironhide and Wheel jack instead of Hotrod, Blur, Arcee and Kup. So to everyone who's saying Michael Bay is a hack. Just remember what that Movie did to the franchise. It was all downhill after that movie. Once they realized the errors they made. They tried to bring Starscream & Prime back, but it was to late, the ratings were dismal, and the show was cancelled.

[JStorm]

So when major characters die in a story/show/movie that you like, the movie automatically sucks?

[Golgo-13]

LOL! I'm watching it right now! And yes as much as i love the movie, i do agree that killing off the main characters was a ridiculous mistake. The Tf franchise as a whole went downhill from then on. It's like killing off Jack Bauer from the show '24', or Jennifer Garner character from 'Alias' and expect people to keep watching.:confused:

[TigerClaw]

What a ****ing abomination. Michael Bay couldn't damage the franchise as much as that movie did. They took the heart and soul, out of the most prized franchise of it's time, and riped it to oblivion. Im sorry but you can't have a true Transfomers Movie by killing off the Characters that made the series what it was. Killing Prime, Starscream, Megatron (I know, but Galvatron Sucks compared to Megs) Prowl, Iron Hide, Wheeljack, Skywarp, Thundercracker, basically the main cast. Then replaced it with a bunch of newcomers. They were ok, but I rather have Ironhide and Wheel jack instead of Hotrod, Blur, Arcee and Kup. So to everyone who's saying Michael Bay is a hack. Just remember what that Movie did to the franchise. It was all downhill after that movie. Once they realized the errors they made. They tried to bring Starscream & Prime back, but it was to late, the ratings were dismal, and the show was cancelled.
Not only that, Also the controversy surrounding one of the episodes in the shows third season after that movie, Cause Casey Kaysem to quite the show causing Cliffjumper to never be heard from again.

[Spark]

I don't think they should've killed everyone off either but some of those new characters became fan favourites, and if you think toy politics hasn't effected the designs in this movie you're living in cloud cuckoo land. Notice how even simple colour scheme decisions were screwed up to distinguish them from the originals.

Infact I'm amazed Brawl will be a double turreted green tank.

[Destructicus]

If you want to ***** about the movie so much watch the japanese episodes of old school transformers. The japanese transformers line never saw the movie so everyone that died in the movie was still in the show. I liked that some of the guys died, but if they could bring Prime back then they could of brought some of the old ones back. I would of liked to see Prowl and Iron Hide get fixed by the quintison. Btw I still liked the movie.

[zer00]

...wow. That was an interesting post.

oooo Optimus died. oooooooo

oh whatever happened to artistic integrity and showing a good story. Prime dying and the autobots having to function without him:(

meh people died. It was a story. It's toys. Granted Rodimus does suck.

[shigsy2003]

While it does suck that most of the awesome characters died (hey they left the Dinobots alone so I was happy) they had no choice. They wanted to introduce a new line of toys and you ain't doing that with Prime and the lads still running about. Not a good justification I know but hey thats toys for you :)

[TigerClaw]

They brought back Optimus Prime in 3 episodes and he was brought back to life in full form in the last two. However, After that show ended, Another one came out after it called Transformers: Headmasters, It took place after the series and featured Spike and his son Daniel as the only human characters. That series had Optimus Prime on it, However in one episode, He was killed off. Unfortunately, This series was never released in the US and was only available in Japan.

[nimbus]

Hehehe, "Head"masters...

[Stringer]

If they didnt kill off any characters they would be sacrificing the story. Obviously the makers felt it was time for a change so they killed some characters off, any good writer has to be willing to kill off characters(even main or fan favs) if the story comes to that point.

[undraftedpacker]

They brought back Optimus Prime in 3 episodes and he was brought back to life in full form in the last two. However, After that show ended, Another one came out after it called Transformers: Headmasters, It took place after the series and featured Spike and his son Daniel as the only human characters. That series had Optimus Prime on it, However in one episode, He was killed off. Unfortunately, This series was never released in the US and was only available in Japan.

Actually I remember a few episodes airing here but then no more.

[Hotwire]

Honestly, what better way to put new characters in without getting to cluttered. Just kill off the old ones.

[Boiiinng]

What a ****ing abomination. Michael Bay couldn't damage the franchise as much as that movie did. They took the heart and soul, out of the most prized franchise of it's time, and riped it to oblivion. Im sorry but you can't have a true Transfomers Movie by killing off the Characters that made the series what it was. Killing Prime, Starscream, Megatron (I know, but Galvatron Sucks compared to Megs) Prowl, Iron Hide, Wheeljack, Skywarp, Thundercracker, basically the main cast. Then replaced it with a bunch of newcomers. They were ok, but I rather have Ironhide and Wheel jack instead of Hotrod, Blur, Arcee and Kup. So to everyone who's saying Michael Bay is a hack. Just remember what that Movie did to the franchise. It was all downhill after that movie. Once they realized the errors they made. They tried to bring Starscream & Prime back, but it was to late, the ratings were dismal, and the show was cancelled.

It's called drama. Perhaps you should try it some time.

[Mr. Credible]

any movie that plays the touch by stan bush at the end fight scene in the movie automatically does not suck.

[Jimmy, GL]

any movie that plays the touch by stan bush at the end fight scene in the movie automatically does not suck.

And with an awsome intro guitar solo in the main theme of course it's a good movie. (And they used a Wierd Al song in it. "Dare to be Stupid."

The best part of the movie, for me, was the space suits that Sam and his dad had. Those were awsome. Galvatron being voiced by Leanord Nemoy was also very cool. Soundwave was in the movie the whole time right?

[nogster]

i loved that movie when it came out in the cinemas.
i remember being absolutley gutted when prime died.
i wasnt expecting it. same with ironhide, brawn etc..very emotional.
i agree the movie falters a bit once they retreat from earth. but still that opening 30mins were just awesome!
soundwave vs blaster!
constructicons vs dinobots!
the arrival of galvatron!
some great moments.
the season after that didnt grab me like the previous either. the quintessons story was pretty cool but it became a show in new toylines. some hit and some miss.

[collegedudejcr01]

One thing that I thought was strange is that they always blasted each other in the show...yet no one died. Then in the movie when they get blasted they die. I also hated that Optimus died and Megatron really didn't...it always seemed to me that even if Megatron hadn't become Galvatron he still would have survived since he told Starscream before he threw him out of Astrotrain "I still function". That being said I still loved the movie, and can't wait for the Special Edition DVD.

[Stringer]

Well Megatron didnt take 6 blasts to the chest like Prime did, but I see your point.

[The Kid]

I didn't like this movie either. this new one looks to be a little better but really the designs of the robots and vehicles are rather disheartening for me personally. I'll see it but golly I didn't expect them to go out of that far and changing them into bionicle toys etc.

[nosebleed.]

I remember seeing it in 1986 and it was pretty shocking to see so many autobots get killed. And my fave, Wheeljack, didn't even have an onscreen death...nice tribute. Prime dying really messed me up but I accepted the new bots with no problem. Sure Rodimus was weaksauce compared to Optimus but it was a movie aimed towards kids and everyone knows that kids are more ready to accept new things than their set-in-their-ways parents.

I guess my reaction to the movie would be the same also if I had just watched it for the first time again in 20 years. But I've watched the move more or less regularly over the years and it is now part of my DNA structure.

[Arcturus]

I love Transformers the Movie, and I can't wait for the special edition which is coming out soon.

[ben_reilly_s_s]

Transformers was way longer:

Transformers season 1
Transformers season 2
Transformers The Movie
Transformers season 3
Transformers season 4 - 3 episodes.

Transformers: HeadMasters
Transformers: MasterForce
Transformers: Victory
Transformers: Zone - 1 episode

That is all of Generation 1.

[Destructicus]

Was season four only 3 episodes? I thought it was longer.

[TigerClaw]

Transformers was way longer:

Transformers season 1
Transformers season 2
Transformers The Movie
Transformers season 3
Transformers season 4 - 3 episodes.

Transformers: HeadMasters
Transformers: MasterForce
Transformers: Victory
Transformers: Zone - 1 episode

That is all of Generation 1.
In the US, We only had Season 1, 2, The Movie and Season 3. Season 4, Headmasters, Master Force, Victory, And Zone never got released in the US and are only available in Japan.

[ben_reilly_s_s]

In the US, We only had Season 1, 2, The Movie and Season 3. Season 4, Headmasters, Master Force, Victory, And Zone never got released in the US and are only available in Japan.

Actually, we got 3 episodes of season 4.

HeadMasters is season 4.

And I have all the episodes.

Was season four only 3 episodes? I thought it was longer.
you have that backwards - it's 3 season 4 episodes.
lol

[Knightsaber Priss]

They brought back Optimus Prime in 3 episodes and he was brought back to life in full form in the last two. However, After that show ended, Another one came out after it called Transformers: Headmasters, It took place after the series and featured Spike and his son Daniel as the only human characters. That series had Optimus Prime on it, However in one episode, He was killed off. Unfortunately, This series was never released in the US and was only available in Japan.

Oh no no no no no. Optimus Prime was never killed of at al in the Headmasters saga, which I own two versions of, a Canadian release in movie form and the original episodes shown on T.V. Maybe you're thinking of the Japanese Headmasters series?

[Super78]

I didn't have a problem with killing off some of the original characters to make way for the newbies (at that time).

But they shouldn't have killed off Prime and made Megatron into Galvatron.

That sucked bigtime.

Kill anyone else off, but keep the two leaders the same -- they were the driving force of the Transformers in the first place.

[GhostPoet]

I like change. I like it when they kill characters off.

But the way they did it (thanks to upper management, not the writers) in the movie was horrible and just plain LAME. You don't kill off all the main characters in one movie....you need to do it over time and slowly.

They may as well as just had all the main originals in one single ship and just blew it up at the beginning of the movie. :)

[Golgo-13]

I think they should have just upgraded Megatron and Primes bodies a bit. Have Prime look the way he did as a Power Master or Head Master, instead of killing him. Same with Megatron.

[the_ultimate_evil]

what annoyed me was i just re-watched it, at the very end they say prime will return, did it say that when it was in cinemas, cause that is extremley daft what was the point of killing him if they were just gonna annouce he was coming back. at least make it some what of a surprise

[nogster]

if i recall. they did say that in the cinemas.
damn long time ago though but i remember the joy i felt after hearing it.

[ixtraker]

It sucks tha prime was killed so as many other autobots, but come on!....weren't you all excited when this movie hit the cinemas back in 1986,uh?...i still can remember that day, as it was yesterday, so i guess that that feeling overcomes on what the movie really was. No matter what i still love transformers the movie, and i own the dvd. At least this one has the spirit of the transformers, something that i´m not sure seeing it on Bay's version. F%&$·%·K Michael bay!!!, i'm just hoping for the best, so far it doesn´t look good to me at all. The newcomers weren´t the same, but i embraced them anyway, i know deep inside ya´ll did. ..admit it

[ixtraker]

i think it's on the spanish version of the film bro. Yeah...i heard it too. Maybe to cheer us up a little bit cause they know the reaction that Optimus Prime's death will cause to everybody, maybe

[Golgo-13]

Well when the movie came out , i was living in the U.K and it saids something to the effect of:

"The galactic battles of the Transformers will continue.....and Optimus Prime will return".

Also at the beginning of the film, instead of getting the opening credits where you see the voice actors names, like Judd Nelson and co, i saw a Star Wars-like opening crawl, that said something to the effect of:

"An evil planet has entered tthe universe, unicron".Then goes on to say "The Decepticons have chased the Autobots, from Cybertron to Earth, and back again."

I really thought it was cool. Now i live in the U.S and both those aspects are missing from the dvd.

All you U.K Hypster, could you gimme the actual words? It's been so long, i'm just reciting off the top of my head from memory. It would also be cool if they included these in the U.S version scheduled for release this coming November.

[nosebleed.]

I saw it in the theaters in 1986 and I don't even remember them saying Prime will return at the end of the movie. Plus there was no Star Wars type intro at the beginning of the movie like on the Rhino DVD. I think a lot of that stuff was added later.

[nosebleed.]

Well when the movie came out , i was living in the U.K and it saids something to the effect of:

"The galactic battles of the Transformers will continue.....and Optimus Prime will return".

Also at the beginning of the film, instead of getting the opening credits where you see the voice actors names, like Judd Nelson and co, i saw a Star Wars-like opening crawl, that said something to the effect of:

"An evil planet has entered tthe universe, unicron".Then goes on to say "The Decepticons have chased the Autobots, from Cybertron to Earth, and back again."

I really thought it was cool. Now i live in the U.S and both those aspects are missing from the dvd.

All you U.K Hypster, could you gimme the actual words? It's been so long, i'm just reciting off the top of my head from memory. It would also be cool if they included these in the U.S version scheduled for release this coming November.

What you described is exactly what is on the Rhino dvd. I do not remember any of that stuff when I saw it in the theater in 1986.

[Golgo-13]

I have the collectors edition Rhino dvd, and NONE of that stuff is on the one i have:confused:. You live in the U.S nosebleed? I always thought that the stuff i described above was on the U.K or international versions because people like Judd Nelson and Eric Idle weren'n very known the people overseas so there was no point in putting their names in the opening credits....

[nosebleed.]

I have the collectors edition Rhino dvd, and NONE of that stuff is on the one i have:confused:. You live in the U.S nosebleed? I always thought that the stuff i described above was on the U.K or international versions because people like Judd Nelson and Eric Idle weren'n very known the people overseas so there was no point in putting their names in the opening credits....

Well...ok...I don't have the Rhino DVD. But I DO have the Rhino VHS (I don't think they would be different would they?) and it has the Star Wars intro and Optimus hint at the end...both of which I don't remember watching in the theaters and on home vid when I was a kid.

I prefer the movie without the intro and the Optimus hint...because that's how I remember it.

[Golgo-13]

I also have the VHS and mine doesn't have that stuff on it.:confused: Maybe you bought your VHS a while back, before it was re-released back in 97-98(?)...don't know, sounds a little odd.

I prefer mine with the opening crawl on it because that's how 'i' remember it.

[nosebleed.]

I also have the VHS and mine doesn't have that stuff on it.:confused: Maybe you bought your VHS a while back, before it was re-released back in 97-98(?)...don't know, sounds a little odd.

I prefer mine with the opening crawl on it because that's how 'i' remember it.

Hmm...weird. My brother did buy it for me a while back. The opening crawl takes away from the "cinema-like" effect for me, and the Optimus hint at the end just makes all the drama go away. Kind of like if you have never read Lord of the Rings and at the end of Fellowship of the Ring it had a voiceover that stated, "And Gandalf SHALL return!".

[Hotwire]

I have the VHS from Rhino, copyright is 1999 and I have the Star Wars type intro and the Prime teaser at the end.

[Golgo-13]

I have the VHS from Rhino, copyright is 1999 and I have the Star Wars type intro and the Prime teaser at the end.

O.K i just looked at my VHS case and it's dated 1995-which DOES NOT have the scroll. So i guess the newer releases have the opening Star Wars scroll. My collectors edition dvd however is dated 2000, but it also is missing the scroll...don't know what to make of that. Maybe only the newer VHS has the scroll..?

[Psionic Force]

Thought I would post this here. I started a thread about it in the Products forum as well....

Article found here -----> http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=192&itemid=10184



Full Transformers The Movie Lenticular Cover Unveiled

http://www.transformersthemoviedvd.com/images/Transformers-DVD3.gif



TRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT!! SONY BMG MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT UNVEILS LENTICULAR COVER FOR TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE 20TH ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL EDITION DVD

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[Golgo-13]

what annoyed me was i just re-watched it, at the very end they say prime will return, did it say that when it was in cinemas, cause that is extremley daft what was the point of killing him if they were just gonna annouce he was coming back. at least make it some what of a surprise
I think they went the G.I Joe route. In G.I Joe the Movie they killed off Duke, an Optimus type character. Then later decided the fans might hate them for doing it, so they added some dialogue from the characters at the end saying that he was alive....

[CFlash]

I think they went the G.I Joe route. In G.I Joe the Movie they killed off Duke, an Optimus type character. Then later decided the fans might hate them for doing it, so they added some dialogue from the characters at the end saying that he was alive....

I always hated Duke in the cartoon. Hawk was the leader of G.I. Joe. Duke was just the field sarge. *steps off comic book geek podium*

Then again the cartoon was an utterly and completely different universe than the comic (in almost every way). It'll be interesting to see fans debate if that movie ever goes into production.

[Golgo-13]

The opening sequence at the Statue of Liberty along with that kick a$$ theme song, is the only reason i watch G.I Joe:The Movie. The movie was cool once i watched it a few times, and it actually got me watching a couple of eps of the series-which were bland compared to it. Before the movie, i had never bothered watching G.I Joe-period.

I heard on the TF dvd coming out that they will be deleted scenes on there. I'm really curious to see those. I hope they're scenes taken from the beginning battle at Autobot City. Maybe we'll actually get to see some major characters actually getting killed? I always wished that battle was longer.

[nosebleed.]

I think they went the G.I Joe route. In G.I Joe the Movie they killed off Duke, an Optimus type character. Then later decided the fans might hate them for doing it, so they added some dialogue from the characters at the end saying that he was alive....

It still blows my mind that they had that "Prime will return" in your version that showed in the theater. Just FYI for people here, I saw this in the theater in 1986 in the US and the Star Wars scrolling wasn't there nor was the "Prime will return" hint at the end. Golgo13 has seen this also in the theater back in the day and remembers both of these elements. Any other people who watched this when it first came out in theaters? What do you remember?

[Golgo-13]

^Remember i saw mine in the U.K (England) not here in the U.S.A.

[nosebleed.]

^Remember i saw mine in the U.K (England) not here in the U.S.A.

Oh yeah, I knew I forgot an important detail. You may publicly thrash me if you ever meet me.

[riggs]

I always thought that the stuff i described above was on the U.K or international versions because people like Judd Nelson and Eric Idle weren'n very known the people overseas so there was no point in putting their names in the opening credits....

Well that's just silly as Eric Idle is British, so of course they know who he is there.

Anyway I quite like the 1986 Transformers movie but it is far from a masterpiece of a film. It was set 20 years after the cartoon series so not surprising they've killed a lot of the original cast off. It's just a kid's movie, though - it's not aimed at adults so if you're not under 10 and can't understand what's to like about it then that's why.

[Golgo-13]

Well that's just silly as Eric Idle is British, so of course they know who he is there.

Anyway I quite like the 1986 Transformers movie but it is far from a masterpiece of a film. It was set 20 years after the cartoon series so not surprising they've killed a lot of the original cast off. It's just a kid's movie, though - it's not aimed at adults so if you're not under 10 and can't understand what's to like about it then that's why.

Well this movie IS geered toward kids like you said, i sure as hell didn't know or cared who Eric Idle was when the movie was out...still don't.:o

[Hotwire]

Eric Idle was a member of Monty Python!! How could anyone here not know or care who he is. I figured a love for Monty Python would be something everyone here would share. As for Judd Nelson, I don't think anyone knows who is even now.

[Headless Knight]

Eric Idle was a member of Monty Python!! How could anyone here not know or care who he is. I figured a love for Monty Python would be something everyone here would share.

Word.

As for Judd Nelson, I don't think anyone knows who is even now.

http://www.judd-website.co.uk/images/juddasbender.jpg

"Don't you... forget about me..."

[Knightsaber Priss]

Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh.......Judd Nelson in the Breakfast Club......I wonder if asked would he ever do the voice of Hot Rod again?

[Avangarde]

He doesn't do much now I think but I have seen a recent pic of him with short hair.

[Knightsaber Priss]

Well, the question would be whether or not Hasbro would allow an animation company to pick up where the G1 series left off, which I admit isn't very likely.

[Avangarde]

^
This has been confirmed, not sure if it will be any good though.

[Golgo-13]

So a G1 cartoon is in the works? Got a link?

[Avangarde]

There is no official website so just google Transformers Hero's

[Killgore]

Reading this thread put that "other" transformer song in my head...

You've got the touch...
You've gotthePOWER!!!!YEAH!!!!

Did anyone notice it that MArky Mark was singing it in Boogie Nights?

[Avangarde]

Reading this thread put that "other" transformer song in my head...

You've got the touch...
You've gotthePOWER!!!!YEAH!!!!

Did anyone notice it that MArky Mark was singing it in Boogie Nights?

Yeah I laugh when I saw it or the first time.

[Golgo-13]

You know on the Collections edition dvd, Vince Dicola (the guy that did the score for Transformers) said he called Stan Bush (the guy who wrote and sang 'The Touch), and told him him that he heard his song in Boogie Nights. Stan told Vince he never got compensated or credited for the song..:confused:

...Vince Dicola is also confused why the score itself was never released, as fans keep asking him for it.

[Knightsaber Priss]

There is no official website so just google Transformers Hero's

Well, what I read is pretty ambiguous. It doesn't say one way or another the series is a direct sequel of the G1 cartoon at all. If you're referring to the DVD release of the American Headmasters series which bears that name, I don't think that is what Transformers: Heroes will be based upon.

[deathshead2]

Well, what I read is pretty ambiguous. It doesn't say one way or another the series is a direct sequel of the G1 cartoon at all. If you're referring to the DVD release of the American Headmasters series which bears that name, I don't think that is what Transformers: Heroes will be based upon.From that short vague plot line we have for heros im pretty sure it has nothing to do with G1. And will never get past one season.:(

[Knightsaber Priss]

From that short vague plot line we have for heros im pretty sure it has nothing to do with G1. And will never get past one season.:(

Well, the mere fact they've only asked for 26 episodes is pretty discouraging.

[Avangarde]

Eric Idle was a member of Monty Python!! How could anyone here not know or care who he is. I figured a love for Monty Python would be something everyone here would share. As for Judd Nelson, I don't think anyone knows who is even now.

I watched The Holy Grail again the other day for the first time in ages, god I love that movie.

[bluejake01]

Well, the mere fact they've only asked for 26 episodes is pretty discouraging.

That is the typical Cartoon Network order...they go about half what the "networks" do for a first season...they get burned a lot.

[Knightsaber Priss]

That is the typical Cartoon Network order...they go about half what the "networks" do for a first season...they get burned a lot.

As opposed to the usual 56 episode runs the other series' were granted?

[bluejake01]

As opposed to the usual 56 episode runs the other series' were granted?I said most networks order twice that amount normally...Cartoon Network operates differently. They are notorious for ordering small first runs.

[Knightsaber Priss]

Yeah, and canceling popular entertaining shows like Justice League Unlimited.

[Boiiinng]

You know on the Collections edition dvd, Vince Dicola (the guy that did the score for Transformers) said he called Stan Bush (the guy who wrote and sang 'The Touch), and told him him that he heard his song in Boogie Nights. Stan told Vince he never got compensated or credited for the song..:confused:

...Vince Dicola is also confused why the score itself was never released, as fans keep asking him for it.

I have it. :confused:

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B00000I01C/sr=1-1/qid=1157813352/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8522093-8115309?ie=UTF8&s=music

[Golgo-13]

I think Vince was referring to the score from the ENTIRE movie, minus the songs. There's a few songs from the score on the album but not the whole thing.

[Boiiinng]

I think Vince was referring to the score from the ENTIRE movie, minus the songs. There's a few songs from the score on the album but not the whole thing.

Well, they're the good ones, and they're used more than once in the film. Definitely worth the purchase.

[Red]

I love Transformers the Movie, and I can't wait for the special edition which is coming out soon.

:up: Same here

[Golgo-13]

I think i mentioned this before but i wonder what the deleted scenes will be?

[Hotwire]

I think i mentioned this before but i wonder what the deleted scenes will be?
It will be an after credit scene. It's already been leaked onto the web. Most of us here have seen it. It's over at youtube. Just search for "The rude awakening of Optimus Prime.":oldrazz:

[ryan dube]

don't bother with the youtube suggestion, it is only a juvenille audio redub that has Prime cursing and swearing a lot...

That's all

The only deleted scenes I can think of that will probably be included is the Metroplex alternate Decepticon attack

[Avangarde]

don't bother with the youtube suggestion, it is only a juvenille audio redub that has Prime cursing and swearing a lot...

That's all

The only deleted scenes I can think of that will probably be included is the Metroplex alternate Decepticon attack

Yes we know, it was a joke.

[Hotwire]

Yes we know, it was a joke.
And I thought it was a funny one, too. Oh, well. Some jokes are lost on those who take them too seriously.

[Hotwire]

I have to say, after re-watching "Transformers:The Movie", I noticed a bad animation flub when Ultra Magnus put the matrix in his chest. It opens and the matrix is already in there, then it's gone and he put it in his chest. Anyone else spot this?

[Boiiinng]

I have to say, after re-watching "Transformers:The Movie", I noticed a bad animation flub when Ultra Magnus put the matrix in his chest. It opens and the matrix is already in there, then it's gone and he put it in his chest. Anyone else spot this?

Yeah, 20 years ago.

[Golgo-13]

^lol!

[Avangarde]

I have to say, after re-watching "Transformers:The Movie", I noticed a bad animation flub when Ultra Magnus put the matrix in his chest. It opens and the matrix is already in there, then it's gone and he put it in his chest. Anyone else spot this?

The Matrix didn't fit well so he had to refit it :D

[Peter_Porker]

I noticed that when the movie came out also, another one is at the very first when Unicron eats the planet, and it starts powering up, there is both an audio and video blip.

[Avangarde]

I noticed that when the movie came out also, another one is at the very first when Unicron eats the planet, and it starts powering up, there is both an audio and video blip.

Cant say I remember that one.

[gkokujin]

the Ik-yak story from Kup is the only deleted scene i know about.

[y2jversion1]

The Matrix didn't fit well so he had to refit it :D

Yea that's how I saw it.. Prime gives Magnus the Matrix, and Magnus just carelessly tosses it in. Then I guess it didn't fit properly so he had to adjust it.

Silly Magnus. :woot:

[Peter_Porker]

Cant say I remember that one.

Definately re-watch the first of the movie, it is even before the opening credits.

[Golgo-13]

Did anyone notice that when Hot Rod spotted the hole in the ship and starting firing at the Decepticons from atop of 'look out mountain' with Daniel, Sunstreaker is one of the Autobots along side Kup, yet when Optimus Prime arrives, Sunstreaker is one of the autobots with him, just arriving from moon base 1?

[acidxburn]

And when Soundwave dispatches all 4 tapes to jam Blaster's transmission... there are 2 Frenzy(s)?

[Golgo-13]

^Yep.

[the_ultimate_evil]

I think they went the G.I Joe route. In G.I Joe the Movie they killed off Duke, an Optimus type character. Then later decided the fans might hate them for doing it, so they added some dialogue from the characters at the end saying that he was alive....


i thought that was the idea, and please man you said you grew up in the uk so call it by its proper name, ACTION FORCE:woot:

[Golgo-13]

i thought that was the idea, and please man you said you grew up in the uk so call it by its proper name, ACTION FORCE:woot:
Hahaha! Your so right! The theme song at the beginning of the movie 'GI Joe', and i was thinking to myself "What the hell are they talking about?":woot:

I had never seen Action Force/GI Joe until i saw the movie.

[Theweepeople]

Here is a negative movie review of transformers. I think it sums up everyone's displeasure quite nicely.

http://www.builtstlouis.net/tf/manic/s-movie.html

[Psionic Force]

Did anyone notice that when Hot Rod spotted the hole in the ship and starting firing at the Decepticons from atop of 'look out mountain' with Daniel, Sunstreaker is one of the Autobots along side Kup, yet when Optimus Prime arrives, Sunstreaker is one of the autobots with him, just arriving from moon base 1?

please... what about all the times you hear the voice of one character talking but it is coming from a different robot? That happens all the time in the cartoon.... there are so many flubs its funny to watch.

[Avangarde]

please... what about all the times you hear the voice of one character talking but it is coming from a different robot? That happens all the time in the cartoon.... there are so many flubs its funny to watch.

LMAO those TF bloopers use to make me laugh, ahh good times.


BTW grats on 20,000 posts TF posters :woot:

[WompuM]

"Oh *****, what are we gonna do now???"

[cryptic name]

"Oh *****, what are we gonna do now???"

best line in the movie. i love realistic responses

[Boiiinng]

best line in the movie. i love realistic responses

Same with Magnus saying "Open...damn it, open!!!"

[Avangarde]

Galvatron: Coronation Starscream, this is bad comedy.
Starscream: Megatron, is that you?
Galvatron: Here's a hint
Kabloooowie

[Golgo-13]

please... what about all the times you hear the voice of one character talking but it is coming from a different robot? That happens all the time in the cartoon.... there are so many flubs its funny to watch.

I hate it even worse when they paint the characters wrong. I was watching one ep on dvd and Skywarp was painted in Starscreams colors.:csad:

On Amazon.com for the upcoming dvd (which i've already pre-ordered:woot: ) it's listed that one of the features is color correction. I wonder if this mean that the scene where Soundwave ejects his for cassettes to 'jam Blasters transmission' they're re-painted the extra Frenzy as Rumble because there's 2 Frenzy's to start with....?

[xwolverine2]

somebody better upload the spielberg/TFmovie interviews when the dvd comes out.........

lol

[Golgo-13]

I got an idea about the deleted scenes that soppose to be on the upcoming TF dvd. In the closing credits for the movie, Inferno, Gears and Dirge are listed with the voice actors that did their voice but they don't appear in the movie. Maybe the deleted scenes involve these charcaters?

[Boiiinng]

From Botcon: Don Figueroa is drawing a page or two for the new comic adaptation that describes what other Transformers were doing during the Autobot City battle.

[Avangarde]

I got an idea about the deleted scenes that soppose to be on the upcoming TF dvd. In the closing credits for the movie, Inferno, Gears and Dirge are listed with the voice actors that did their voice but they don't appear in the movie. Maybe the deleted scenes involve these charcaters?

Yeah I never understood why they were listed in the credits, you might have a point there.

[Duo Prime]

From Botcon: Don Figueroa is drawing a page or two for the new comic adaptation that describes what other Transformers were doing during the Autobot City battle.

That sounds F****** Sweet!!!! Do you know when this is coming out?

[Boiiinng]

That sounds F****** Sweet!!!! Do you know when this is coming out?

They didn't know for sure but they said it would be with the summer movie promotions, probably along with the live-action movie prequel comics they are doing, too.

[manicmyk]

Anyone have a clue what the Easter Eggs are going to be that are listed on the special features for the anniversary DVD? I can't imagine what else they could put on there, they have a ton of content listed already.

[*Dead*End*]

For Your viewing pleasure only:
http://www.imageupload.com/uploads/1c227_20th01.jpg
http://www.imageupload.com/uploads/0fe98_20th02.jpg
http://www.imageupload.com/uploads/ea2ca_20th03.jpg
http://www.imageupload.com/uploads/a8712_20th04.jpg

[roach]

For Your viewing pleasure only:
http://www.imageupload.com/uploads/1c227_20th01.jpg
http://www.imageupload.com/uploads/0fe98_20th02.jpg
http://www.imageupload.com/uploads/ea2ca_20th03.jpg
http://www.imageupload.com/uploads/a8712_20th04.jpg

what's this from????
I must own this comic

[Lord Blackbolt]

In the US, We only had Season 1, 2, The Movie and Season 3. Season 4, Headmasters, Master Force, Victory, And Zone never got released in the US and are only available in Japan.

Why won't they release them in the US now?

Yet they released those other crappy Japanese versions that aren't even a part of Generation 1???

[Avangarde]

what's this from????
I must own this comic

Its a 4 part series of the movie being released by IDW.

[Boiiinng]

You think they would have fixed some of the dialogue but they made it worse. Ironhide has never called Optimus by his full name, it's always been "Prime."

[Golgo-13]

I've heard him call Prime, Optimus before...

[Boiiinng]

I've heard him call Prime, Optimus before...

Maybe just Optimus or Prime but never together. There's a certain friendship way of talking amongst soldiers that was always apparent between Prime and his company. Like when military guys call each other by their last name.

[nosebleed.]

Like when military guys call each other by their last name.

or, "Hey ****face!"

[y2jversion1]

Probably for the TF Universe noobs.

It still sounds stupid though.

[Avangarde]

The release of the 20th anniversary edition is only 3 weeks away, they have stated that there will be content related to the 2007 live movie in the bonus'. Will it be anything new we don't know about? Perhaps confirmation on some character designs or maybe those Bay tv spots.

[chosen1]

What a ****ing abomination. Michael Bay couldn't damage the franchise as much as that movie did. They took the heart and soul, out of the most prized franchise of it's time, and riped it to oblivion. Im sorry but you can't have a true Transfomers Movie by killing off the Characters that made the series what it was. Killing Prime, Starscream, Megatron (I know, but Galvatron Sucks compared to Megs) Prowl, Iron Hide, Wheeljack, Skywarp, Thundercracker, basically the main cast. Then replaced it with a bunch of newcomers. They were ok, but I rather have Ironhide and Wheel jack instead of Hotrod, Blur, Arcee and Kup. So to everyone who's saying Michael Bay is a hack. Just remember what that Movie did to the franchise. It was all downhill after that movie. Once they realized the errors they made. They tried to bring Starscream & Prime back, but it was to late, the ratings were dismal, and the show was cancelled.

"Cocaines a hell of a drug." -- Rick James

[manicmyk]

The release of the 20th anniversary edition is only 3 weeks away, they have stated that there will be content related to the 2007 live movie in the bonus'. Will it be anything new we don't know about? Perhaps confirmation on some character designs or maybe those Bay tv spots.

The Features list says TRANSFORMERS 2007 Live Action movie trailer and
special Sneak Peek so, I would guess it is the full trailer that will be in theatres and some behind the scenes stuff.

[Golgo-13]

I find it hard to believe that we'll get a full trailer on the dvd, seeing as how the movie just wrapped a week or so ago and the cgi cannot possibly be close to finished. And then with the talk of Re-designs. I believe we'll get the old teaser on the dvd.....

[Avangarde]

I find it hard to believe that we'll get a full trailer on the dvd, seeing as how the movie just wrapped a week or so ago and the cgi cannot possibly be close to finished. And then with the talk of Re-designs. I believe we'll get the old teaser on the dvd.....

I agree, either they have been putting in some serious overtime just to get this trailer ready or its going to be rubbish that doesn't show much.

[cryptic name]

I find it hard to believe that we'll get a full trailer on the dvd, seeing as how the movie just wrapped a week or so ago and the cgi cannot possibly be close to finished. And then with the talk of Re-designs. I believe we'll get the old teaser on the dvd.....

the cgi for the movie and for the trailer are different things. they could've been working on the trailer for a long time using predesignated footage and some cg done just for the trailer. i do think it will just be the "anouncement" trailer on the dvd, but a real teaser is not out of the question.

[manicmyk]

the cgi for the movie and for the trailer are different things. they could've been working on the trailer for a long time using predesignated footage and some cg done just for the trailer. i do think it will just be the "anouncement" trailer on the dvd, but a real teaser is not out of the question.

I think it is standard practice now to work the CGI on specific scenes designated for the trailer in advance. I don't think it will be the full three minute trailer that will hit theatres a month before the movie but, I think a 90 second that is a little more than a teaser is not out of the realm of possibility.

[Lazlo Panaflex]

I saw the movie at the tender age of 10 and I admit I was shocked at seeing all the '84 Autobots die, but I figured it was a necessity to move the story along and to distance the Transformers from the more kid-friendly rivals the GoBots.

If you watch the interview with writer Flint Dille on the box sets even he admits that in one way it was good doing away with the '84 line because the 3rd season episodes didn't seem so repetitive as the earth bound stories were.

[Boiiinng]

It was also a good foreshadowing to show that the movie was going to deal with a lot more serious themes than the normal afternoon cartoon.

[nosebleed.]

Well, I am looking forward to the DVD release.

On a side note...I was doing some reading about how the movie has developed so far and something Lorenzo Di Bonaventura said really truly irked me. If this was the attitude of the producers from the start then we know that they had zero intentions of being faithful to the look of G1.

Optimus Prime and all the characters will be in there, they wont look…I hope they don’t look the same because I think those characters wont hold up on motion pictures. I think that’s why that animated movie never worked.

One man's view of how they "should" look is better than 20 years worth of history of how they have looked.

[Crowforge]

I remember holding ironhide while watching ironhide get killed, I'd rented it myself, it was my first solo rental.
Music sucked too.

[Boiiinng]

Hmmm...last time I checked, the animated movie...worked.

[GhostPoet]

I liked it. I liked the music and I liked all the new transformers.

Didn't like the killing of the old ones.

[Spark]

Well, I am looking forward to the DVD release.

On a side note...I was doing some reading about how the movie has developed so far and something Lorenzo Di Bonaventura said really truly irked me. If this was the attitude of the producers from the start then we know that they had zero intentions of being faithful to the look of G1.



One man's view of how they "should" look is better than 20 years worth of history of how they have looked.
It's funny because of all the reasons the animated movie actually failed, this is the first time I've Lorenzo's rather lame excuse. Infact the visuals themselves were one of the better aspects of the movie.

Although what can you expect from someone who'd probably hire Clooney over Cullen?

[Orion Pax]

I liked it too but I don't think the movie got great reviews or did very well in the box office. Peter Cullen even makes mention of that in one of his interviews.

[nosebleed.]

It's funny because of all the reasons the animated movie actually failed, this is the first time I've Lorenzo's rather lame excuse. Infact the visuals themselves were one of the better aspects of the movie.

Although what can you expect from someone who'd probably hire Clooney over Cullen?

Exactly. I cannot find the particular quote but I do remember reading him saying something like, "Why would anybody want the original voice actors? That's silly/ridiculous". It goes to show that most people in the Hollywood big machine think that anything that is too faithful to the source material will be crap on film.

[Avangarde]

I don't get it, they don't think the original voices are modern enough? Please, I'm all for modernising the series for the big screen but certain aspects of the original Transformers still have a modern relevance. I still don't know why they didn't keep with the whole "draining earth's fuel resources" that IMHO is very revelant to today.

[CFlash]

I don't get it, they don't think the original voices are modern enough? Please, I'm all for modernising the series for the big screen but certain aspects of the original Transformers still have a modern relevance. I still don't know why they didn't keep with the whole "draining earth's fuel resources" that IMHO is very revelant to today.

And to me at least... it went to the very heart of Transformers.
But, I wouldn't expect that sort of stuff in a Bay movie... quite the opposite.... http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showarticle.php3?ID=7 (posted before but worth repeating).

[Avangarde]

And to me at least... it went to the very heart of Transformers.
But, I wouldn't expect that sort of stuff in a Bay movie... quite the opposite.... http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showarticle.php3?ID=7 (posted before but worth repeating).

Is Michael Bay on G.W. Bush's payroll?

[The Guardian]

(PREVIOUSLY POSTED IN THE PRODUCTS FORUM.)

HY GUYS, I JUST GOT BACK FROM BEST BUY, AND TO MY SURPRISE THEY HAD THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY DVD,:eek::D:up: SO IF YOU LIVE IN MY AREA(MIAMI) GO TO THE BEST BUY NEXT TO THE 826 PALMETO EXPRESSWAY BEHIND 49TH STREET, THEY HAVE IT THERE IN THE ANIME SECTION, OH AND BY THE WAY THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY ROCKS!!!:D:up:

[bunk]

(PREVIOUSLY POSTED IN THE PRODUCTS FORUM.)

HY GUYS, I JUST GOT BACK FROM BEST BUY, AND TO MY SURPRISE THEY HAD THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY DVD,:eek::D:up: SO IF YOU LIVE IN MY AREA(MIAMI) GO TO THE BEST BUY NEXT TO THE 826 PALMETO EXPRESSWAY BEHIND 49TH STREET, THEY HAVE IT THERE IN THE ANIME SECTION, OH AND BY THE WAY THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY ROCKS!!!:D:up:

Well come on dude, what kind of stuff do they show having to do with live action movie?!:wow:

[The Guardian]

Well come on dude, what kind of stuff do they show having to do with live action movie?!:wow:

THEY SHOW THE TEASER TRAILER WE'VE ALL SEEN AND A SMALL FEATURETTE ON THE FILM THAT HAS STEAVEN SPIELBERG, MICHEAL BAY, AND SOME BEHIND THE SCENES SHOTS OF SOME OF THE STUNT WORK, IT'S SHORT BUT SWEET.:D:up:

[CFlash]

...certain aspects of the original Transformers still have a modern relevance. I still don't know why they didn't keep with the whole "draining earth's fuel resources" that IMHO is very revelant to today.

And to me at least... it went to the very heart of Transformers.
But, I wouldn't expect that sort of stuff in a Bay movie... quite the opposite.... http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showarticle.php3?ID=7 (posted before but worth repeating).

Is Michael Bay on G.W. Bush's payroll?

More like on his christmas card list. He gets invited to all the cocktail parties.

And to think that article was probably written before Pearl Harbor... not to mention The Island, which is a statement on stem cell research among other things (http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/index.php?p=601).

[Avangarde]

THEY SHOW THE TEASER TRAILER WE'VE ALL SEEN AND A SMALL FEATURETTE ON THE FILM THAT HAS STEAVEN SPIELBERG, MICHEAL BAY, AND SOME BEHIND THE SCENES SHOTS OF SOME OF THE STUNT WORK, IT'S SHORT BUT SWEET.:D:up:


Nothing new?.............................................. ...Disappointing:csad:


Still the cleaned version of the movie is what I want to see :up:

[Golgo-13]

How well does the movie lok compared to the older released versions, The Guardian?

Plus i knew we wouldn't get alot of movie stuff on here. Like i've mentioned time and time again, filming just wrapped-there's no way we could get anything half decent so soon...

[bunk]

I didn't think we'd get any cg clips, I'm mostly interested in Spielberg's commentary.

[Guyverjay]

TF: The Movie rocked my cock

[roach]

Hmmm...last time I checked, the animated movie...worked.

The movie didnt do well commercially since too many parents complained that their kids were crying over Optimus Prime.....It's one of the reasons why the G. I. Joe movie went straight to video and Duke survived being stabbed in the heart with a snake....

[bunk]

TF: The Movie rocked my cock


Guyverjay, I watched those x-men anime intros and they are truely bad ass! Never seen em before but they have cooler action then an entire episode.

[Arcturus]

I can't wait for the new dvd! Btw, I forgot the date it's coming out, I know it's in November, but day exactly?

Thanks!

[Avangarde]

I can't wait for the new dvd! Btw, I forgot the date it's coming out, I know it's in November, but day exactly?

Thanks!


NOW!!! (if you live in the states)

[Saint]

I don't know what the quality of TFTM has to do with the quality of Michael Bay's forthcoming cinematic abortion.

[zanos]

So they killed all the original autobots in the film because to wanted to introduce a new toyline? What a travesty. I admit I still loved the movie though. They did manage to develop some great characters like hot rod, kup, arcee, etc. But it kind of serves them right the film failed so miserably.

[Golgo-13]

^. Yeah, but the film, despite it's B.O failure, grew into the epic/classic it is today....

[Niño Manga]

^. Yeah, but the film, despite it's B.O failure, grew into the epic/classic it is today....
I still dance when i hear the galactic salutation song! Ba Wihp! Ganna Wihp! Nini Bom! HAHAHA