PES6 and FIFA 360 will be next-gen exclusives for 12 months.

[WhatsHisFace]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66873

Hooray for people who actually like the sport.

[Mentok]

Nice :up:

[Avalanche]

Evo and FIFA are both massive in the UK, and I suspect the rest of Europe.

[My Liege]

Gay.

[Aiden]

Awesome news. PES is far superior to FIFA though :/

[Fenrir]

Soccer moves a lot of systems in Europe and Japan. If both Pro Evolution Soccer/Winning Eleven and FIFA are 360 exclusives for the next 12 months, it will sell a lot of 360s in the region to junkies who want desperately want their soccer fix for Christmas.

[TheCardPlayer]

MEGATON!


Soccer moves consoles in Europe. This news freaking rocks!

[My Liege]

Dude, people shouldn't need to pay in excess of £300 just to play the new FIFA. It's a horrible idea thought up by horrible people.

[TheCardPlayer]

Dude, people shouldn't need to pay in excess of £300 just to play the new FIFA. It's a horrible idea thought up by horrible people.Sony boards ---------->

[My Liege]

EDIT: Double post.

[My Liege]

Sony boards ---------->
What the... are you, like, special or something? Can you not see how it's bad idea?

I'm going to go right ahead and assume that all who approve already own a 360, right? In which case, of course it's a good idea as you get to carry on as normal. But I bet you'd be over the hill if some bright spark decided that Insert Your Fave Movie Here DVD would be next gen exclusive for 12 months.

Oh, and please don't be a smart arse by saying that you already own the next gen equivelent of a standard DVD player as I could just as easily used a cinema release as European/American exclusive for 12 months.

Yeah, I'm gonna get a 360, but in my own time and because I'm the natural progression of gaming consoles, but not because of some below the belt money grabbing tactics employed at MS.

[Zenien]

It's only exclusive as far as Nextg Gen consoles go, the PS2 version will still be available, and there won't be any gameplay difference between them (or if Fifa is EA there stands a good chance that they'll strip features out of the next gen version :rolleyes:).

[Horrorfan]

What the... are you, like, special or something? Can you not see how it's bad idea?

I'm going to go right ahead and assume that all who approve already own a 360, right? In which case, of course it's a good idea as you get to carry on as normal. But I bet you'd be over the hill if some bright spark decided that Insert Your Fave Movie Here DVD would be next gen exclusive for 12 months.

Oh, and please don't be a smart arse by saying that you already own the next gen equivelent of a standard DVD player as I could just as easily used a cinema release as European/American exclusive for 12 months.

Yeah, I'm gonna get a 360, but in my own time and because I'm the natural progression of gaming consoles, but not because of some below the belt money grabbing tactics employed at MS.

Have some common sense mate.

There are millions of 360 owners out there. Why should we suffer because your cheap ass wants to wait for a price drop?

Plus, the only other place you will eventually get to play fifa and pes is ps3, and that will cost you close to £500. You tell me which is better.

[Manny Calavera]

Great way to sell consoles I guess, but I don't really give a **** about soccer, so meh. I was sort of hoping that this Leipzig thing would give us some better news, but I guess I'll have to wait for X06.

[imdaly]

so is this Leipzig thingy in Europe or something? Cause it seems like all the news so far really caters mainly to Europeans and not so much anyone else.

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah, it's in Germany I think. It was hyped as the "next E3!11", but so far it just sucks :confused:

[Fenrir]

Soccer rocks! :):up:

[My Liege]

There are millions of 360 owners out there. Why should we suffer because your cheap ass wants to wait for a price drop?
Spaz, why would you be suffering? It would still be readily available on the 360... but you've just confirmed my initial suspicion that all in favour already own said console, in which case, why are you bothered either way?
I'm not saying it should be on one or the other, but rather on both. It makes no sense. If anything, EA/Konami will lose money on this one, as I doubt there are that many people daft enough to buy a 360 just for the football. If anything, moves like this make me not want to buy the damn thing. The preasure on parents from kids is going to be ridiculous.

Oh, and it's not being a 'cheap ass', it's not being a chump.

[WhatsHisFace]

Spaz, why would you be suffering? It would still be readily available on the 360... but you've just confirmed my initial suspicion that all in favour already own said console, in which case, why are you bothered either way?
I'm not saying it should be on one or the other, but rather on both. It makes no sense. If anything, EA/Konami will lose money on this one, as I doubt there are that many people daft enough to buy a 360 just for the football. If anything, moves like this make me not want to buy the damn thing. The preasure on parents from kids is going to be ridiculous.

Oh, and it's not being a 'cheap ass', it's not being a chump.
Riz.

[Manny Calavera]

Is it him? Better go ahead and dig in here...

[My Liege]

Riz.
Huh? Look, no-one has provided any sort of argument as to why this is a good thing. Please, I'm dying to know. Ideally, I'd like to hear from non 360 owners who are being smart, sorry, cheap asses, by not bending over and taking it.

I own the original XBOX and find it to be a cool little machine. I will be buying a 360. That's not the issue. The issue is the question of the exclusivity of next gen football titles, which I find, quite frankly, to be appalling, for the reasons that I have stated in the above posts.

This is the part were someone at least attempts to counter the argument.

[WhatsHisFace]

Huh? Look, no-one has provided any sort of argument as to why this is a good thing. Please, I'm dying to know. Ideally, I'd like to hear from non 360 owners who are being smart, sorry, cheap asses, by not bending over and taking it.

I own the original XBOX and find it to be a cool little machine. I will be buying a 360. That's not the issue. The issue is the question of the exclusivity of next gen football titles, which I find, quite frankly, to be appalling, for the reasons that I have stated in the above posts.

This is the part were someone at least attempts to counter the argument.
Dope.

[My Liege]

Dope.
Seriously, what is your problem?

Could somebody please tell me why Fifa2007 and PES6 being next gen exclusive is a good thing? as this concept of discussion is clearly alien to this guy...

That's all I ask.

[Manny Calavera]

Wow, "ideally I'd only like to hear from people who are going to agree with me", what a joke. It's good because it means the game will take more advantage of the hardware it's on rather than being a more vanilla port. It's good for Microsoft because it will sell more consoles, which leads to it being good for gamers as it will cause their console to get more support and games. It's good for various reasons, and is certainly not bad, unless you DON'T own a 360, which goes into the reasoning behind the deal, to get you to buy one. If you don't want the game enough for a 360, then hey, great, you obviously won't miss it and thus it's of no consequence that you can't play it on your favorite system and you won't need to continue discussing it.

[WhatsHisFace]

Wow, "ideally I'd only like to hear from people who are going to agree with me", what a joke. It's good because it means the game will take more advantage of the hardware it's on rather than being a more vanilla port. It's good for Microsoft because it will sell more consoles, which leads to it being good for gamers as it will cause their console to get more support and games. It's good for various reasons, and is certainly not bad, unless you DON'T own a 360, which goes into the reasoning behind the deal, to get you to buy one. If you don't want the game enough for a 360, then hey, great, you obviously won't miss it and thus it's of no consequence that you can't play it on your favorite system and you won't need to continue discussing it.
Don't give him the time, he's not worth any of it.

[My Liege]

Wow, "ideally I'd only like to hear from people who are going to agree with me", what a joke. It's good because it means the game will take more advantage of the hardware it's on rather than being a more vanilla port. It's good for Microsoft because it will sell more consoles, which leads to it being good for gamers as it will cause their console to get more support and games. It's good for various reasons, and is certainly not bad, unless you DON'T own a 360, which goes into the reasoning behind the deal, to get you to buy one. If you don't want the game enough for a 360, then hey, great, you obviously won't miss it and thus it's of no consequence that you can't play it on your favorite system and you won't need to continue discussing it.Okay, finally someone with a response, a little half-hearted and albeit slightly condescending, but we're getting somewhere...

Okay, a game taking advantage of the hardware is good yes, but by that logic, we'd never get PSP or DS conversions of games, as they're clearly inferior machines. Yes, the selling of consoles is good, as we all want to see the market succeed as higher demand will lead to an increase in availabilty of products and an increase of resources available to the development of software, but the bottom line is that those too cheap* are going to miss out. I just don't see that as good. Sorry if sticking up for the little guy isn't cool enough, but it's the way I see it. Do we really believe that EA/Konami/MS need more money? This isn't some anti-MS rant as like I stated earlier, I own an XBOX and will be buying a 360.

Again though, for those it doesn't affect in the slightest, I fail to see how you can present any sort of argument at all, and the idea that I'm looking for a response from those who will agree with me is nonsense, but I'm willing to bet that those who are directly affected by this nonsense just might.

[Manny Calavera]

It drives me up a wall when people don't understand simple things.


Okay, a game taking advantage of the hardware is good yes, but by that logic, we'd never get PSP or DS games, as they're clearly inferior machines.
No, that's not "by any logic" that I presented. Taking advantage of the hardware means that it isn't being ported around as much and as such has fewer systems to run on, meaning it will be built entirely on the strengths and weaknesses of the 360 rather than the weaknesses of both the ps3 and the 360 and then whatever strengths they have in common, like a port. It has nothing to do with one machine being inferior to another, nothing at all.



I'm going to complain about spending money because big companies have more of it than me already
Then don't buy it maybe?


a snipped justification of only wanting people to agree
Totally wrong in about 200000 different ways. I don't need to be "directly effected" by something to see plainly visible facts and come to the only logical conclusion available from those facts.

[My Liege]

I am not affected in the slightest and therefore carry absolutely no weight with whatever argument I put forth.
Fair enough, I'm all for the adavancement of technology and gaming experiences, but c'mon, it's not like it's going to built entirely on the strengths of more competent machinary. It's going to come out on both systems anyway! It has nothing to do with that, it's clearly a device to sell more units at a higher price, which should not be applauded. As everyone seems to be missing this, I'm going to put it in bold and at a higher font size...

I WILL BE BUYING A 360.

I aplogise if this isn't clear enough, but wouldn't want to make the font size any higher in fear of being rude.

Look, I can appreciate how you want the best for the best, and yeah, maybe I am failing to understand, but I can't see it any different that what it is on the face of it, which is that those who cannot afford next gen machines will not be able to play FIFA2007 and PES6 for at least a year.

It reminds me of when GTA had Sony exclusive for all those months, boy there was outcry in Microsoft's corner then.

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah WHF, I think you're right, this guy has to be Riz :(

[WhatsHisFace]

Which means what he says is worth about as much as what an magic Eight-Ball from third grade said when you shook it really hard. Don't say more than one word to him.

[Manny Calavera]

HAhah, do you happen to still have his picture anywhere? :D

[My Liege]

Who the hell is Riz? For your (currently incorrect but that's nothing new) info, my previous handle was Flame On!

If you don't have a valid argument, then that's fine, I understand, but jumping to ridiculous conclusions makes you look a little bit silly.

[Manny Calavera]

Ok.

[Avalanche]

Who the hell is Riz? For your (currently incorrect but that's nothing new) info, my previous handle was Flame On!
Good heavens. That sounds like a handle that didn't win you any friends. :confused:

[WhatsHisFace]

HAhah, do you happen to still have his picture anywhere? :D
Yeah, I'll find it somewhere.

[My Liege]

Good heavens. That sounds like a handle that didn't win you any friends. :confused:
I kinda liked it, as not only was it (an admittedly geeky) comic book reference, but it also had a double meaning in terms of message board posting.