The Angelina Jolie/Ava Lord thread

[diabolik]

via dvdtalk who read it from the dailynews.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/385843p-327435c.html

If its true, its a safe guess woud be they found Ava.

[moonraker]

If that is true, maybe she is in Sin City 2...

[BT18]

copied for those who don't want to deal w/ the popups:

To wed, or not to wed? That supposedly is the question that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are toiling over.
"We will never marry," Jolie is said to have told "Sin City" director Robert Rodriguez over tea at L.A.'s Bel-Air Hotel on Jan. 17. "If the kids get older and demand that we have a ceremony, we might. But that's a touchy subject with us."

Guess so. The same day, at the Chateau Marmont, Pitt is said to have told "Constant Gardener" director Fernando Meirelles he and Angie were planning to marry "very soon."

Star magazine says both quotes come from earwitnesses.

The reporter who's said to have eavesdropped on Jolie's chat claims the actress told Rodriguez, "We planned on having the baby right near my birthday, June 4. My mom suggested it. She's really into astrology and thought it would be great to have a Gemini like me!

"Brad is going to do a project in July, and we promised that we would trade off movies," so they can always be together as a family on set.

The gender of said family's newest member is the subject of some speculation. Life & Style is reporting that Brad and Angelina are expecting a girl, while Us Weekly claims it's a boy.

Meanwhile, another one of Pitt's babies arrived in Park City, Utah, this week - at the Sundance Film Fest.

The Pitt-produced documentary "God Grew Tired of Us" centers on three Sudanese refugees trying to carve out a new life after their village is ravaged and their families are killed.

Director Christopher Quinn told us that Pitt got behind the movie three years ago, well before Jolie had him diapering Third World orphans. "I was taken by surprise at just how detailed he is," Quinn recalls. "His follow-through was really intense."

Their movie is pretty intense, too. One Sundance audience member was so moved, she wrote a $25,000 check to a complete a clinic in the Sudan.

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Um, did it occur to you that a woman who's pregnant with a baby due from May-to-June can't film a part that requires a rocking, non-pregnant, nude body, in a film that's scheduled to come out in mid-August ?

[Antonello Blueberry]

If she will be Ava Lord, that means we won't see the movie before another year.

[BT18]

Maybe there's a pregnant character in "Grind House".

[TheSpyAssassin]

isnt she due in May?

[BT18]

isnt she due in May?

May or June.

She can't be Ava

[Mr. Socko]

Hmmm....Sounds like a great casting choice but it's still not completely confirmed.

Wonder if she's willing to bare it all...

[Antonello Blueberry]

Hmmm....Sounds like a great casting choice but it's still not completely confirmed.

Wonder if she's willing to bare it all...
Why not, she was naked in more than a couple of movies.

[Lone Wolf]

isnt she due in May?

She's due in June.

I think it's great casting, if it turns out to be true.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Maybe there's a pregnant character in "Grind House".

I find this more interesting than her as Ava. I'm quite looking forward to that.

[Riven]

Why not, she was naked in more than a couple of movies.
She should, I'm still pissed off at Jessica Alba.


The only actresses I can think of to play Ava Lord are Angelina Jolie or Uma Thurman. Actually, I'd prefer Uma.

[Kel]

She should, I'm still pissed off at Jessica Alba.


The only actresses I can think of to play Ava Lord are Angelina Jolie or Uma Thurman. Actually, I'd prefer Uma.

Alba was adamant that nudity was definitely negotiable, if that was how Rodriguez wanted to go. “It absolutely was an option."

Why are you mad at Jessica???, Robert made the call not her...

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Then damn Rodriguez then! And I think Miller had a say too.

Damn them for depriving us of the chance to see the mysterious glory of a first-time-naked Alba! Good god would Kleenex stock skyrocket!

:mad:

[Lone Wolf]

Then damn Rodriguez then! And I think Miller had a say too.

Damn them for depriving us of the chance to see the mysterious glory of a first-time-naked Alba! Good god would Kleenex stock skyrocket!

:mad:

Deal with it.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Then damn Rodriguez then! And I think Miller had a say too.

Damn them for depriving us of the chance to see the mysterious glory of a first-time-naked Alba! Good god would Kleenex stock skyrocket!

:mad:

I'm glad that there are still people on this earth that don't live for nudity.

Unfortunately, you aren't one of them. They let her not be nude because she said she was uncomfortable and her father would have disowned her. Plus, it's not the goods that counts, it's the performance. GET OVER IT.

:mad:

[Kel]

I'm glad that there are still people on this earth that don't live for nudity.

Unfortunately, you aren't one of them. They let her not be nude because she said she was uncomfortable and her father would have disowned her. Plus, it's not the goods that counts, it's the performance. GET OVER IT.

:mad:

Thats not exactly how it went MM....she would have done the nudity had Robert said, this is how we are going to do it......she has said that more than once.....the other quote was simply why...she would have been uncomfortable doing it....not why she didn't do it.....

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I don't live for nudity but apparently unlike yourself and Batman, it is something that greatly interests me. I am a straight male after all so yes, a naked Alba would be nice. And I mean, it isn't like her character IS A DAMN STRIPPER and was naked in the books, right? :rolleyes:

[Game Player]

Angelina would be perfect for Ava, if she wasn't pregnant

[droidwarrior]

i just saw Salma Hayak's dance in from dusk till dawn. when i saw her face and beautifully toned body i remembered something marv said "that there is a dame to kill for"

Salma for ava 1000%

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

meh...what about Sharon Stone? or Carrie-Anne Moss?No, Carrie-Anne for Catwoman!

[Nivek]

Why are you mad at Jessica???, Robert made the call not her...

Y'know, Im probobly not alone in saying this, but I have my doubts about that, concidering the T&A seen throughout the movie he would have a "stripper" wear more clothes than a Parole Officer.

[millyd03]

now that it's not coming out till 2007, i guess angelina is a possiblity again (she can't possibly be pregnant that long)

[Darth Elektra]

I liked Alba.

[Kel]

Y'know, Im probobly not alone in saying this, but I have my doubts about that, concidering the T&A seen throughout the movie he would have a "stripper" wear more clothes than a Parole Officer.

i'm going by his interviews....thats all.....you of course can believe what you want....i'd have to go and listen to the commentary again...but he might have mentioned it there as well....

i posted this earlier, but i guess it was missed....Jessica has said in several interviews that had Rodriguez said....lets go w/ nudity, it would have been done.....BUT it wasn't and thats the reality of it.......moot discussion at this point...moving on...

Alba’s comment on nudity being an option brought out a few loud moans from some male journalists who apparently would have loved to have had Robert Rodriguez go that direction. Alba was adamant that nudity was definitely negotiable, if that was how Rodriguez wanted to go. “It absolutely was an option. Robert said we could do it if we wanted to. Obviously it would have been more authentic.

Source:http://movies.about.com/od/sincity/a/sincityja032405.htm

[Mr. Socko]

Alba didn't want to do nudity from the start, It's obvious Rob Rodriguez didn't want to put any pressure on her so he said it's an entire option. As much of a horny freak that Frank Miller is, I'm sure he was dying for Jessica Alba to do the nude scene.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

It's a shame they went for name recognition. As hot as Alba is, there are many other actresses out there that are hotter, better actresses, and willing to get naked for the camera. Don't get me wrong, she was ok in the role, but they could have done better.

And the reason the nakedness is important is because she is a stripper.

[Kel]

Alba didn't want to do nudity from the start, It's obvious Rob Rodriguez didn't want to put any pressure on her so he said it's an entire option. As much of a horny freak that Frank Miller is, I'm sure he was dying for Jessica Alba to do the nude scene.

Well I guess thats something we will never know...:)

[neemer5]

I'm just glad we got to see so much of Carla Gugino! But yeah, for consistency's sake, they shouldv'e made her naked.

[Bat Attack]

Yeah, Carla Gugino was great to see. :up:

[Malkavian]

It's a shame they went for name recognition. As hot as Alba is, there are many other actresses out there that are hotter, better actresses, and willing to get naked for the camera. Don't get me wrong, she was ok in the role, but they could have done better.

And the reason the nakedness is important is because she is a stripper.

I have to say I am really gettin tried of the moaning about Jessica.She was good in the role and did great.Leave her alone.If Robert and Frank had no problem with it, then you shouldn't either.

But what really chaps my ass is the "being authentic" BS that all the horny males go on about.I do not see you getting upset at the fact that Bruce Willis was not naked for his being hung in the motel room sequence.If you were SOOO upset about authenticity, then you would be equally upset about that and I have not heard one of you even mention it.So the authenticity excuse does not work and just accept that you are only saying it because you are a horny male who didn't get to see some T and A...PERIOD

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Pictures are hung. people are hanged.

But you have a point. Like, Clive Owen had boxers on in BFK, yet, no-ones complaining about that. It's only because we don't get to see boobies or pussy that fanboys are going off.

[Nutshell97]

Also, i remember seeing and interview with (i think) Frank Miller, where he said he thought it was a good idea to have her non-nude, because she is supposed to be the most innocent person in city. A stripper not stripping was supposed to represent the irony of her character. I know that's not how it was in the books but whatever, we got a 95% accurate translation from 3 books to film. That's unheard of, enjoy it and quit *****in...

[Nivek]

Given Jessicas loose morals, I wouldn't doubt she was cast and said at that point said she'd do it nude, but after things were signed her agents and lawyers renegotiated the deal. Given her recent actions against Playboy about using her image on the cover without per permission (even though its a publicity pic from her wet-in-a-bikini flick Into the Blue), I wouldn't put it past her pulling something like that, and rodriguez and Miller having to work with it. I would've just taken the hit and recast, she's a playin a sleazy club Stripper, not a Hooters or Coyote ugly chick. And the "most innocent person in the city" shtick is a crock, concidering she tried to practicly rape Hartigan.

[Kel]

Given Jessicas loose morals, I wouldn't doubt she was cast and said at that point said she'd do it nude, but after things were signed her agents and lawyers renegotiated the deal. Given her recent actions against Playboy about using her image on the cover without per permission (even though its a publicity pic from her wet-in-a-bikini flick Into the Blue), I wouldn't put it past her pulling something like that, and rodriguez and Miller having to work with it. I would've just taken the hit and recast, she's a playin a sleazy club Stripper, not a Hooters or Coyote ugly chick. And the "most innocent person in the city" shtick is a crock, concidering she tried to practicly rape Hartigan.

Silly...:p :rolleyes:

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Yllis...Bruce...Yllis...

[Mr. Socko]

I have to say I am really gettin tried of the moaning about Jessica.She was good in the role and did great.Leave her alone.If Robert and Frank had no problem with it, then you shouldn't either.

But what really chaps my ass is the "being authentic" BS that all the horny males go on about.I do not see you getting upset at the fact that Bruce Willis was not naked for his being hung in the motel room sequence.If you were SOOO upset about authenticity, then you would be equally upset about that and I have not heard one of you even mention it.So the authenticity excuse does not work and just accept that you are only saying it because you are a horny male who didn't get to see some T and A...PERIOD

Pictures are hung. people are hanged.

But you have a point. Like, Clive Owen had boxers on in BFK, yet, no-ones complaining about that. It's only because we don't get to see boobies or pussy that fanboys are going off.

Both statements above make very good point, then again... Robert Rodriguez has said that he wanted the film to get an R rating and not NC-17. Now showing about 3 or 4 different crotch areas automatically gives a film a NC-17 ratings and thats not even with the language and violence. "Boobies" alone will not give a movie an NC-17 rating so he really could have shown alot more of them. There is a real REASON as to why Clive Owens and Bruce Willis were not nude and shown from the waist down. Is there a reason to justify why Alba was not nude? But I'm just trying to state a few points because I thought Jessica did a very good job in the movie and I think she was the best up-and-comer of 2005. But not having her really strip actually did change the character entirely. She was not a stripper in the movie Sin City. What it even said in the movie that Nacy was actually a "stripper." Having her not perform those acts turned her character into a Latino vixen and not a stripper. So that was definitely the biggest change from the comics. But I'm not mad about that.

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Could Jolie be casted as Sally at the beginning of ADTKF??
I think she looks more like her than Ava

[Lil_Flip246]

Here's more gossip on Angelina in Sin City 2: Actress Angelina Jolie has met with director Robert Rodriguez to discuss joining the cast of the sequel to his hit film Sin City.

Jolie caught up with the Desperado director joining Jessica Alba, Clive Owen, Rosario Dawson, Brittany Murphy and Mickey Rourke in the next comic book adaptation.

The film is tentatively called A Dame To Kill For and Jolie is in talks to play the "dame", according to Moviehole.net.

Source: Yahoo

[Halcohol]

I'll go see pretty much anything with Angelina Jolie in it :) I just hope she takes care of herself before shooting the movie and doesn't try to lose the baby fat too fast.

[Bat Attack]

Then damn Rodriguez then! And I think Miller had a say too.

Damn them for depriving us of the chance to see the mysterious glory of a first-time-naked Alba! Good god would Kleenex stock skyrocket!

:mad:
You didn't get to see t!tties, boo hoo.

[Lil_Flip246]

I don't mind if they hold back the movie to include Jolie. As long as Angie's in it.

[spideylover89]

I'll go see pretty much anything with Angelina Jolie in it :) I just hope she takes care of herself before shooting the movie and doesn't try to lose the baby fat too fast.

Check out pictures of her pregnant. With the exception of her belly (which goes away after the pregnancy), there really isn't any baby fat. If anything she's at a healthy weight now because before she was a little too thin.

[The Dark Defender]

The only thing worse than the ugly, untalented, overrated Jolie being in Sin City 2 is actually holding up production to get her in it.
If she's in it, my expectations for Sin City 2 have been driven down like a railroad spike.

[Kel]

The only thing worse than the ugly, untalented, overrated Jolie being in Sin City 2 is actually holding up production to get her in it.
If she's in it, my expectations for Sin City 2 have been driven down like a railroad spike.

Spoken like a true Monica fan...;) Wow...

[The Dark Defender]

Spoken like a true Monica fan...;) Wow...

Actually, I had no expectation of Monica being in the film anyway.

I have no problem with her not being in it, I have a huge problem with Jolie being in it on the other hand.

My disdain for Jolie has nothing to do with Monica. I'd just prefer someone that wouldn't ruin the film, as Jolie does every time she gets a role (though luckily most of the movies she's in are **** anyway).

[Kel]

Actually, I had no expectation of Monica being in the film anyway.

I have no problem with her not being in it, I have a huge problem with Jolie being in it on the other hand.

My disdain for Jolie has nothing to do with Monica. I'd just prefer someone that wouldn't ruin the film, as Jolie does every time she gets a role (though luckily most of the movies she's in are **** anyway).

gotcha...

[spideylover89]

Actually, I had no expectation of Monica being in the film anyway.

I have no problem with her not being in it, I have a huge problem with Jolie being in it on the other hand.

My disdain for Jolie has nothing to do with Monica. I'd just prefer someone that wouldn't ruin the film, as Jolie does every time she gets a role (though luckily most of the movies she's in are **** anyway).

Ironic because most people sre the ****ty films she's in simply because of her...funny how that works. Have you seen Gurl, Interrupted? It would be a complete borefest without her and her oscar performance. :o

[The Dark Defender]

Ironic because most people sre the ****ty films she's in simply because of her...funny how that works. Have you seen Gurl, Interrupted? It would be a complete borefest without her and her oscar performance. :o

Oscars mean nothing to me; and I'm one of the few that liked Alexander, in which she was by far the worst thing about the film, coming off more like a vampire bride in Van Helsing than Greek Queen that she was supposed to be playing.
I don't assume her films are bad simply because she's in them, she simply makes films worse.

[moop501]

Oscars mean nothing to me; and I'm one of the few that liked Alexander, in which she was by far the worst thing about the film, coming off more like a vampire bride in Van Helsing than Greek Queen that she was supposed to be playing.
I don't assume her films are bad simply because she's in them, she simply makes films worse.
How? :confused:

I'd be fine with her as Ava.She's got the looks and the talent.Some people(you) make her seem like the worst actress in the world,when she's definetly not.

[spideylover89]

Oscars mean nothing to me; and I'm one of the few that liked Alexander, in which she was by far the worst thing about the film, coming off more like a vampire bride in Van Helsing than Greek Queen that she was supposed to be playing.
I don't assume her films are bad simply because she's in them, she simply makes films worse.

Angelina was hardly one of Alexander's biggest problems. The fact that it was 3 hours of boring speeches, bad acting, terrible battle camera work, and a plot that was abandoned half way through are what made Alexander bomb. It was one of my least favorite roles that Angelina has played because, yeah, it was too over the top, but the whole movie had problems.

Tomb Raider and Girl Interrupted are good examples of films she made better though. Many people can't stand the Tomb Raider films, but saw them anyway because Jolie was the perfect Lady Croft. I think her biggest problem is she hasn't had the best streak of movies. She is a good actress that always winds up in mediocre films, a lot of it has to do with the fact that she pics a role based on the eccentricity of the character, not the quality of the script. She's just now finally starting to chose her roles more carefully (i.e. The Good Shephard), so I can see her really working out in Sin City. And come on, do you really think Robert would wait for an actress he didn't have 100% faith in?

[Bat Attack]

Angelina was hardly one of Alexander's biggest problems. The fact that it was 3 hours of boring speeches, bad acting, terrible battle camera work, and a plot that was abandoned half way through are what made Alexander bomb. It was one of my least favorite roles that Angelina has played because, yeah, it was too over the top, but the whole movie had problems.

Tomb Raider and Girl Interrupted are good examples of films she made better though. Many people can't stand the Tomb Raider films, but saw them anyway because Jolie was the perfect Lady Croft. I think her biggest problem is she hasn't had the best streak of movies. She is a good actress that always winds up in mediocre films, a lot of it has to do with the fact that she pics a role based on the eccentricity of the character, not the quality of the script. She's just now finally starting to chose her roles more carefully (i.e. The Good Shephard), so I can see her really working out in Sin City. And come on, do you really think Robert would wait for an actress he didn't have 100% faith in?
Well said.:up:

[Kel]

Angelina was hardly one of Alexander's biggest problems. The fact that it was 3 hours of boring speeches, bad acting, terrible battle camera work, and a plot that was abandoned half way through are what made Alexander bomb. It was one of my least favorite roles that Angelina has played because, yeah, it was too over the top, but the whole movie had problems.

Tomb Raider and Girl Interrupted are good examples of films she made better though. Many people can't stand the Tomb Raider films, but saw them anyway because Jolie was the perfect Lady Croft. I think her biggest problem is she hasn't had the best streak of movies. She is a good actress that always winds up in mediocre films, a lot of it has to do with the fact that she pics a role based on the eccentricity of the character, not the quality of the script. She's just now finally starting to chose her roles more carefully (i.e. The Good Shephard), so I can see her really working out in Sin City. And come on, do you really think Robert would wait for an actress he didn't have 100% faith in?

Agree...:up: :up:

[Iambaytor]

How? :confused:

I'd be fine with her as Ava.She's got the looks and the talent.Some people(you) make her seem like the worst actress in the world,when she's definetly not.

She's not the worst actress in the world, but she's still pretty bad. Angelina Jolie does not act, she strikes a sexy pose, and then says a one-liner... rinse and repeat. Plus up until Sky Captain I can't think of a single good movie she was in (Maybe Hackers... MAYBE)

[Mr. Socko]

Although I'd rather Judy Dench as Ava, Jolie will have to work

[Kel]

Although I'd rather Judy Dench as Ava, Jolie will have to work

LMAO.....now thats funny!
















You're kidding right?

[The Dark Defender]

Angelina was hardly one of Alexander's biggest problems. The fact that it was 3 hours of boring speeches, bad acting, terrible battle camera work, and a plot that was abandoned half way through are what made Alexander bomb. It was one of my least favorite roles that Angelina has played because, yeah, it was too over the top, but the whole movie had problems.

Tomb Raider and Girl Interrupted are good examples of films she made better though. Many people can't stand the Tomb Raider films, but saw them anyway because Jolie was the perfect Lady Croft. I think her biggest problem is she hasn't had the best streak of movies. She is a good actress that always winds up in mediocre films, a lot of it has to do with the fact that she pics a role based on the eccentricity of the character, not the quality of the script. She's just now finally starting to chose her roles more carefully (i.e. The Good Shephard), so I can see her really working out in Sin City. And come on, do you really think Robert would wait for an actress he didn't have 100% faith in?

The acting in Alexander, other than Jolie, is terrific, especially from Farrell. The cinematography in the battles is the best job I've seen of putting the audience in the battle outside of LOTR, and I loved alot of the dialogue. His speech to the troops before the Battle of Gaugamala is one of the best rally speeces on film.
Alexander had one big problem, and it's unfortunately the same one that it looks like Sin City 2 is going to have.

I hated Tomb Raider, and her being in it didn't help it; and I didn't say that Robert doesn't have faith in her, I said that I don't.

[The Dark Defender]

How? :confused:

I'd be fine with her as Ava.She's got the looks and the talent.Some people(you) make her seem like the worst actress in the world,when she's definetly not.

Like I said, I don't agree that she has the looks or the talent. The only reason she'd fit in in Sin City is because she's uglier than sin. Her features are disproportiantely large to the rest of her face, her lips are disgusting, they're not even shaped nicely, they're just big and remind me of a fish, and her body is unnaturally thin without a single attractive feature; and I didn't say she's the worst actress in the world, but she's still a bad one.

[The Dark Defender]

She's not the worst actress in the world, but she's still pretty bad. Angelina Jolie does not act, she strikes a sexy pose, and then says a one-liner... rinse and repeat. Plus up until Sky Captain I can't think of a single good movie she was in (Maybe Hackers... MAYBE)

Agree:up: :up: ...other than the part about Sky Captain being good.

[spideylover89]

The acting in Alexander, other than Jolie, is terrific, especially from Farrell. The cinematography in the battles is the best job I've seen of putting the audience in the battle outside of LOTR, and I loved alot of the dialogue. His speech to the troops before the Battle of Gaugamala is one of the best rally speeces on film.
Alexander had one big problem, and it's unfortunately the same one that it looks like Sin City 2 is going to have.

I hated Tomb Raider, and her being in it didn't help it; and I didn't say that Robert doesn't have faith in her, I said that I don't.

Well to each his own. Also I didn't think you said Robert didn't have faith in her, I was just pointing out that if he and Frank are so secure about Jolie then she's probably the right choice. Who knows these characters any better than these two. In the end it's all about personal preference and some will be in the minority, others won't. While you think it sucks they will hold the film for Jolie, someone else can turn right around and say the same thing about Monica Belluci. Unfortnately you just can't please everyone. :/

[Hunter Rider]

I care not for the ramblings of others,Jolie is a good actress and i look forward to her in Sin City 2 if it occurs:up:

[Bat Attack]

I care not for the ramblings of others,Jolie is a good actress and i look forward to her in Sin City 2 if it occurs:up:

What do you mean by that?

[Assassin32]

meh...what about Sharon Stone? or Carrie-Anne Moss?No, Carrie-Anne for Catwoman!

You fool! Sharon Stone is 100 years old, and Carrie-Anne Moss is hideous!

[Iambaytor]

I don't live for nudity but apparently unlike yourself and Batman, it is something that greatly interests me. I am a straight male after all so yes, a naked Alba would be nice. And I mean, it isn't like her character IS A DAMN STRIPPER and was naked in the books, right? :rolleyes:

At least you're honest about it. I don't know how many have said she should have been topless to "preserve the feel of the book" well if that's true then we'd have to see Bruce Willis' cock in the hotel when he's hanging from the ceiling, so keep it in mind.

[GoldGoblin]

You fool! Sharon Stone is 100 years old, and Carrie-Anne Moss is hideous!

^You got that right:up:

[Malkavian]

Although I'd rather Judy Dench as Ava, Jolie will have to work


LOL...hummm, I am thinkin' maybe a little Helen Mirren action!

I have no problem with Jolie as Ava. I do seriously think that the schedule will be messed up waiting for her though.Another thing, the people convinced that she will go naked, I say wait and see.Not that I think she would have a problem getting naked, but with coming right off of having a baby...guys, it is not the weight so much she has to deal with, but the loose skin that accompanies it. Maybe she would not want to show off anything but a perfect body and therefore skip it.But, if she does manage to get into fighting form (which means more time)...Who knows, maybe Robert and Frank might not want to go naked for her character, and thats a maybe.The point being, we just do not know.

And another thing, if they do wait for her, does that not conflict with the filming of the FF4 sequel? I assume they are going to film the Sin City2 like before with actors coming in for a few days or weeks and then are done so it may not be a problem. Just asking...

[Rez]

The reason I didn't ***** about Hartigan being naked or Dwight being naked is because it was completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Dwight was in boxers or naked, we got the same effect- they had just had sex.

Nancy being naked, however, was a punch in the face. It wasn't just so some horny fanboys could get off to a drawn picture. The one good thing left in Hartigan's life had become corrupted in his eyes... could she still be an innocent angel when she was dancing around with all sacred to her bouncing around for strangers to see? The power of that scene was lost on stage.

If the nudity was THAT big an issue, they COULD have alluded to her being nude without actually seeing Alba naked- a straight black and white silhouette shot of her dancing, the camera dancing around her so it avoided the naughty bits.

And yeah, of course I'm a guy, so of course I want to see Alba down to her bones.

[Kel]

The reason I didn't ***** about Hartigan being naked or Dwight being naked is because it was completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Dwight was in boxers or naked, we got the same effect- they had just had sex.

Nancy being naked, however, was a punch in the face. It wasn't just so some horny fanboys could get off to a drawn picture. The one good thing left in Hartigan's life had become corrupted in his eyes... could she still be an innocent angel when she was dancing around with all sacred to her bouncing around for strangers to see? The power of that scene was lost on stage.

If the nudity was THAT big an issue, they COULD have alluded to her being nude without actually seeing Alba naked- a straight black and white silhouette shot of her dancing, the camera dancing around her so it avoided the naughty bits.

And yeah, of course I'm a guy, so of course I want to see Alba down to her bones.

isn't the fact that she's a stripper, pretty much alluding that she gets naked...???? to me i think the guys above examples are correct...if you are going from the pure adaptation from the novel, then they should have been nude as well....whether Jessica was nude or not is not that big of a problem w/ me...but lets not get into a double standard here....if the ladies are nude in the novel and you're upset with one of them not being nude....then you should be upset with the guys as well...

[Darth Elektra]

Im not sure Jolie will go nude, with her being a new mommy.

[Darth Elektra]

Also its a known fact you show a guy naked(front) its allmost cetain that it gets a nc-17 rating... show a female you get a R. I think Alba should have stayed true to the character and went nude. If she didnt want to go nude than she shouldnt have taken the part.

[spideylover89]

Im not sure Jolie will go nude, with her being a new mommy.

She's been a new mommy for the past 4 years, do Mad and Zahara not count because they are adopted or something? :rolleyes:Hell she went nude for Taking Lives even though she had Mad, so I don't think it's a problem.

[Darth Elektra]

Good point I forgot about the adpoted kids. Its just that most new momies dont go nude... But if anyone does Jolie will.

[spideylover89]

Hell yeah, are we all forgeting...it's Angelina freakin Jolie!

[Kel]

Also its a known fact you show a guy naked(front) its allmost cetain that it gets a nc-17 rating... show a female you get a R. I think Alba should have stayed true to the character and went nude. If she didnt want to go nude than she shouldnt have taken the part.

Then be upset w/ Frank Miller and Robert Rodriguez because ultimately the decision was theirs. She didn't look at the novel until after she had the part. And no they could have at least done a butt shot of the guys....sorry but looks like a double standard here, and so far no one's explanations have told me otherwise...as i said before didn't matter to me if she did or didn't...but people's reasons for her doing it just seem double standard to me...

[Darth Elektra]

More guys are into action films, thus you dont put a male nude because guys would be uncomfortable.

[Hunter Rider]

Then be upset w/ Frank Miller and Robert Rodriguez because ultimately the decision was theirs. She didn't look at the novel until after she had the part. And no they could have at least done a butt shot of the guys....sorry but looks like a double standard here, and so far no one's explanations have told me otherwise...as i said before didn't matter to me if she did or didn't...but people's reasons for her doing it just seem double standard to me...

While i personally don't care about Jessica not going nude the fact is a dangling male Penis equals NC17

[Kel]

While i personally don't care about Jessica not going nude the fact is a dangling male Penis equals NC17

Nor did i mention a dangling penis in my post...i believe i mentioned butts.

[Hunter Rider]

Nor did i mention a dangling penis in my post...i believe i mentioned butts.

The original talk was about ppl not complaining over Bruce not doing full frontal,i was just commenting on how it is different from female nudity
Plus in the books im sure there are no male butt shots and RR made the film frame for frame

[Kel]

The original talk was about ppl not complaining over Bruce not doing full frontal,i was just commenting on how it is different from female nudity
Plus in the books im sure there are no male butt shots and RR made the film frame for frame

i understand that, but you quoted me...

My point is fairly simple, i understand the rating system, that was their reason for not using the male nudity...their reason for not having Jessica nude "according to Robert Rodriguez" was....it was an option..."Jessica said, it was an option"...Robert said he decided it was not needed....Now....here are the 2 reasons why they did not do either....both reasons from Robert Rodriguez...some may say he's just saying that...thats ok....i disagree...and i think for some its simply a double standard...and using the NC17 rating is their reason...but i still think for some its a double standard....just my opinion....both had reasons for not doing the nudity, both coming from Robert Rodriguez....if there is blame to be given, which i don't think there is BTW...but to me the blame should fall to Robert Rodriguez....if we are going to argue the "they should have been fully true to the novel"...then they should have gone ahead and gone w/ the NC17...but again, if you want to use true to the panels as a reason....then go all the way....NC17 or not Robert chose "NOT" Robert...chose that...i don't want this to get into a discussion away from the topic....and i apologize for that happening......

i'm glad Angelina is doing this project, i think she will add alot to the cast, w/ or w/o her clothes on....

And just to set the record straight...i don't see the double standard in all posts upset over the nudity or lack of...actually...thats fine...i have a respect for those that truly love Frank Miller's work...and wanted ALL OF it....thats cool! Just another side to the discussion thats all...

[Malkavian]

More guys are into action films, thus you dont put a male nude because guys would be uncomfortable.
LOL... that is just stupid...

BS! Alot of women go and see action films.They do not seem to be concerned if women are uncomfortable with nude women on screen. And what about all the gay men?

Like JMA has said, all the explantions as to why the double standards do not hold water.DOUBLE STANDARD...period.If you cite artistic integrity/being true to the original material, then it applies to ALL scenes and ALL characters, NC17 or not.At least put in butt shots to show what was intended.

Do not hide behind the artistic integrity and being true to the original material rational.If you just want to see Jessica Alba naked, then just say so. Nothing wrong with that.

[TwilightPro101]

As much as I hate to say it the double standards are part of the business brought out by the studios and the people that produce these films.

I personally would have loved to have seen Jessica Alba naked, but the male nudity is just something that is rarely seen. The MPAA has more issues with that particular area for some reason though I do agree with Jessica Alba.

But as always its proof that the business defintely keeps its double standards.

As for Angelina, bring her on!

[Lobster Charlie]

There's been male nudity in films before. Rodriguez is so "indie," I'm sure he could've pulled a lot of it off---if he had the chops. I just think his sensibility is more child-like, and in the face of the cartoonish over-the-top violence (that the audience repeatdely laughed at :(), male nudity would've turned Sin City into more of a comedy than it already was.

In a nutshell: handling nudity in a tasteful manner takes maturity. I don't think RR really has that level of maturity.

[TwilightPro101]

He was falling Sin City scene-for-scene. It invariably came down to the actors and actresses decision on the nudity and exactly how much Robert and Frank wanted to show, but the limitations of the MPAA would have stepped in and limited the film since they were shooting for the main stream audience with the film.

[TwilightPro101]

Edit.

[Mr. Socko]

While i personally don't care about Jessica not going nude the fact is a dangling male Penis equals NC17

EXACTLY! I've been saying this for the longest.

There's been male nudity in films before. Rodriguez is so "indie," I'm sure he could've pulled a lot of it off---if he had the chops. I just think his sensibility is more child-like, and in the face of the cartoonish over-the-top violence (that the audience repeatdely laughed at :(), male nudity would've turned Sin City into more of a comedy than it already was.

In a nutshell: handling nudity in a tasteful manner takes maturity. I don't think RR really has that level of maturity.

What do you mean:confused:

[Lobster Charlie]

RR hasn't really strayed from his "style" of filmmaking, which tends to lean toward over-the-top action and cartoonish characters and situations. I'm not saying I don't like it, I'm saying that if you throw in some good ol' male nudity (in case you didn't already know---naked women are "hot," while naked men are "funny," to most folks), then you've got more comedy, and just another element to water down or tweak Sin City into something that I *personally* wouldn't want--a near-spoof of the source material.

I only frown at the fact that people laughed at this film so much, simply because through the years of reading the comics, I never laughed at the parts that the audience found funny. I just read it, thought it was cool and dark and gritty and bad-assed, but never slapstick. Oh well.

[Kel]

RR hasn't really strayed from his "style" of filmmaking, which tends to lean toward over-the-top action and cartoonish characters and situations. I'm not saying I don't like it, I'm saying that if you throw in some good ol' male nudity (in case you didn't already know---naked women are "hot," while naked men are "funny," to most folks), then you've got more comedy, and just another element to water down or tweak Sin City into something that I *personally* wouldn't want--a near-spoof of the source material.

I only frown at the fact that people laughed at this film so much, simply because through the years of reading the comics, I never laughed at the parts that the audience found funny. I just read it, thought it was cool and dark and gritty and bad-assed, but never slapstick. Oh well.

The people i saw laughing in the theatre while watching Sin City, were idiot 13 and 14 year old boys that somehow got into the theatre...they wouldn't know what was funny or not if it slapped them in the face.

[Mr. Socko]

RR hasn't really strayed from his "style" of filmmaking, which tends to lean toward over-the-top action and cartoonish characters and situations. I'm not saying I don't like it, I'm saying that if you throw in some good ol' male nudity (in case you didn't already know---naked women are "hot," while naked men are "funny," to most folks), then you've got more comedy, and just another element to water down or tweak Sin City into something that I *personally* wouldn't want--a near-spoof of the source material.

I only frown at the fact that people laughed at this film so much, simply because through the years of reading the comics, I never laughed at the parts that the audience found funny. I just read it, thought it was cool and dark and gritty and bad-assed, but never slapstick. Oh well.

Oh, I see. Your right, a beer belly YB with a small yellow penis would have made everyone in the theater burst out laughing.

I like Rob Rod's style but he's too obsessed with CG. He's making crap like Sharkboy and Lava girl just to push the limits of CG, see what he can expand with it, and make movies very shortly. Too much CGI(cartoony goofy images) can be a bad thing. Too bad we'll never see anymore El Mariachi type movies anymore, or D2D.

The master of digital effects has become it's slave.

His buddy Quentin takes his time making his movies the best that he possibly can and succeeds. Quentin's 4 movies are better then Robert's 11.

[Weapon M]

This is getting more interesting by the second.. HA!!! lol

[aaron]

i think of ava as a blonde, and from when angelina was blonde,i dont think it suited, and would angelina go full naked for loads of scenes?

[Assassin32]

What the hell would make you think of Ava as a blonde?

[MalroyChick11]

Like I said, I don't agree that she has the looks or the talent. The only reason she'd fit in in Sin City is because she's uglier than sin. Her features are disproportiantely large to the rest of her face, her lips are disgusting, they're not even shaped nicely, they're just big and remind me of a fish, and her body is unnaturally thin without a single attractive feature; and I didn't say she's the worst actress in the world, but she's still a bad one.

Haha. I have no idea how someone could say Angelina Jolie is ugly, but it is opinion when it comes to looks. I cannot EVER take my eyes off of her onscreen. She's just got that LOOK for me.

I think Angelina's a great actress. Oscars might not mean anything to you, but I think Oscar-winning actress are pretty good.

[Darth Elektra]

I think Angelino Jolie will be a good Ava.

[liesse00]

Well Angelina had her baby, how fast can she get in shape?

[green]

Woohoo she popped the puppy out...now lets get filming.:up:

[kevinpenni]

I'm glad she had her baby... I think she would start filming anything in about 2 months. Hopefully that anything will be Sin City dos.

[TwilightPro101]

Here's to hoping.

[Batgirl2116]

She's not the worst actress in the world, but she's still pretty bad. Angelina Jolie does not act, she strikes a sexy pose, and then says a one-liner... rinse and repeat. Plus up until Sky Captain I can't think of a single good movie she was in (Maybe Hackers... MAYBE)

Thats the biggest piece of crap Ive ever heard of in my life....Angelina Is a great actress who also happens to be one of the hottest women alive...please...one liner my ass...sorry but I strongly strongly disagree

[Batgirl2116]

Oh and yeah...I hope thwe rumors are right and she's casted....would be very nice

[RedCometChar]

I personally think Jolie would make a perfect Ava. She could definitely pull off being a seductress. She really looks like Ava too. Compare the cover from A Dame to kill for with a shot of Jolie for Life of Something like It. The hairstyle and the lips match. If she was a brunette in the film and not a blonde, she would have been identical to Ava. Also, I don't think she would mind the nudity. It is in the source material and I don't think Jolie would really have qualms about it. Plus, if RR can shoot around her until she is ready, she can work out and get back into shape, while the other stories and scenes without her are being shot. Also, while I don't personally like her, I think she is an okay actress and will do the part justice.Also, Alexander sucked because Stone kept rambling on and played up the homosexual part way too much. I mean we get it already, Alexander slept with guys, stop trying to shock us, we get it okay, move on. In regards to Alba not being naked, well, it was breasts and no crotch shots, but if Miller didn't have a problem with it, then we shouldn't either. It is his work and he can do whatever he wants with it. If that means that Nancy keeps the bra on, then so be it. (Even though seeing Alba's breasts wouldn't be a bad thing at all)

[grabmygladys]

I really dislike Jolie. :(

[captain_jimbo]

Who cares, she's hot. Although I wasn't too keen on her kissing her brother the way she did. :eek:

[cardslinger]

I LOVE Angelina Jolie. She is the hottest woman alive(IMHO).http://www.smileys.ws/smls/cheeky/00000033.gif
Has this been confirmed?

[Dangerous]

What I wanna know is will she be getting her tits out in the film?
This is apparantly what will be happening I heard in my comic store...

[liesse00]

What I wanna know is will she be getting her tits out in the film?
This is apparantly what will be happening I heard in my comic store...

You're one classy guy

[Shoemeister]

What I wanna know is will she be getting her tits out in the film?
This is apparantly what will be happening I heard in my comic store...

Oh, well then it certainly must be true.


:rolleyes:

[Kel]

What I wanna know is will she be getting her tits out in the film?
This is apparantly what will be happening I heard in my comic store...

You're having to work WAY too hard to sound heterosexual....

[xwolverine2]

i love angelina!!!

thank god there waiting for her...SHES A BADASS!!

[COME ON !]

i love angelina!!!

thank god there waiting for her...SHES A BADASS!!

I love her too. She's insanely hot, and a good person too. She gives away a third of what she makes to charity and really tries to make the world a better place.

[william_blake05]

Ava's a sex goddess ***** so Jolie would be perfect.

[Sentinel X]

I love Jolie...she awsome in everyway imo. I hope she plays Ms.Lord...she could get the personality down fast

[liesse00]

Rosario Dawson was just on TRL and confirmed Angelina Joli is on board and that they are doing A Dame to Kill For and they are shooting in Austin Texas again.

[imaperson2]

i was just gonna post that!

[Assassin32]

Excellent news.

[Nivek]

well, Jolie post Prenancy looks pretty damn good, so hopefully they wont have to wait that long till they start shooting.

[WebSlingerSlick]

Sin City is my my secod favourite comic book film of all time. I respect Angelina Jolie as an actress greatly. I can really envision Angelina Jolie as Ava Lord in Sin City 2 : A Dame To Kill For. She would be a very good casting choice. I was also very impressed with Jessica Alba's performance as Nancy The character is true to the graphic novels. It should be no different for Angelina Jolie. :marv:

[Assassin32]

Alba's performance impressed you? Seriously? I hope you mean her dancing and not her acting.

[MalroyChick11]

Ah yes! I love Angelina Jolie. She always makes the perfect femme fatale. I can't wait to see Sin City 2.

[kevinpenni]

awesome... so glad it's finally confirmed :up: :D

[Lil_Flip246]

Excellent news. Agreed. I want to see Angelina in more NEW movies!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd love to see her in Sin City!!!

[Lil_Flip246]

Film portrayal
Sin City 2 is the sequel to the 2005 movie Sin City, which was based on Miller's graphic novels. It will be released in 2007, although an exact release date has yet to be confirmed. It was revealed by director Robert Rodríguez that the story for film to be based around would be A Dame to Kill For as well as new stories to be written by Miller.

Although Rosario Dawson has said Angelina Jolie will portray Ava in Sin City 2, an interview with Frank Miller has revealed that there are three rumored frontrunners for the role of Ava Lord: Jolie, Salma Hayek, and Rose McGowan.
Source: Wikipedia

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

No. Jolie.

We've been waiting this long for a sequel for her. She's in it and she'll be good. Otherwise I won't see the film, even though I will.

[Kel]

Film portrayal
Sin City 2 is the sequel to the 2005 movie Sin City, which was based on Miller's graphic novels. It will be released in 2007, although an exact release date has yet to be confirmed. It was revealed by director Robert Rodríguez that the story for film to be based around would be A Dame to Kill For as well as new stories to be written by Miller.

Although Rosario Dawson has said Angelina Jolie will portray Ava in Sin City 2, an interview with Frank Miller has revealed that there are three rumored frontrunners for the role of Ava Lord: Jolie, Salma Hayek, and Rose McGowan.
Source: Wikipedia

LMAO....@ your source...:o

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Wikipedia is so trustworthy when it comes to films :rolleyes:

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Anyway, we would have read the interview with Frank.

If it happened.

[kevinpenni]

Salma Hayek and Rose McGowan don't hold a candle to Angelina Jolie's mass appeal and popularity. No competition.

[cerealkiller182]

Rose, yes. Salma, no. Salma is just as appealing as Angelina. If anything Angelinas recent media buzz has completly overexposed her. Shes turning into the female Tom Cruise, everyone is just sick of hearing from her.

[kevinpenni]

Salma is very famous, but she is not on the Jolie level - and that is partly in fact because of all the recent media buzz Jolie has had.

[SlipknotGoblin]

i just saw Salma Hayak's dance in from dusk till dawn. when i saw her face and beautifully toned body i remembered something marv said "that there is a dame to kill for"

Salma for ava 1000%
sounds good to me

[tard_kart]

anyone who thinks angelina is hotter than salma should turn in their hetero card A.S.A.P:o

[lokisixnine]

hope they do it good

[Bluefire]

meh...what about Sharon Stone? or Carrie-Anne Moss?No, Carrie-Anne for Catwoman!


sharon stone is drenched in wrinkles! ava aint suppose to be a grandmother

[Bluefire]

It's a shame they went for name recognition. As hot as Alba is, there are many other actresses out there that are hotter, better actresses, and willing to get naked for the camera. Don't get me wrong, she was ok in the role, but they could have done better.

And the reason the nakedness is important is because she is a stripper.

why is seeing jessica naked so important to you? besides it adding to your sick perverted fantasies of her. her being toplesss would not enhance the storyline in anyway it would simply have been sleezy and degraded the movie in my opinion which is probably wat director rodriguiez thought and thats why he didnt allow alba to go toplesss.

[Bluefire]

She should, I'm still pissed off at Jessica Alba.


The only actresses I can think of to play Ava Lord are Angelina Jolie or Uma Thurman. Actually, I'd prefer Uma.


uma thurman? that wrinkled up a hoe? i don't think so! angelina all the way!!!

[Bluefire]

The only thing worse than the ugly, untalented, overrated Jolie being in Sin City 2 is actually holding up production to get her in it.
If she's in it, my expectations for Sin City 2 have been driven down like a railroad spike.


how pathetic. could it be any more obvious that you are jealous of the wealth power and beauty angelina jolie has, while you are nothing more then a comic book fangirl probably drenched in pimples flat chested and extremely deprived of love.

[Bluefire]

Oscars mean nothing to me; and I'm one of the few that liked Alexander, in which she was by far the worst thing about the film, coming off more like a vampire bride in Van Helsing than Greek Queen that she was supposed to be playing.
I don't assume her films are bad simply because she's in them, she simply makes films worse.


Foolish statement. you are aware that the woman angelina was playing was acctually thought to have been a witch? or some truly demonic like woman? so from your statments above angelina played the character perfectly.

[Bluefire]

Like I said, I don't agree that she has the looks or the talent. The only reason she'd fit in in Sin City is because she's uglier than sin. Her features are disproportiantely large to the rest of her face, her lips are disgusting, they're not even shaped nicely, they're just big and remind me of a fish, and her body is unnaturally thin without a single attractive feature; and I didn't say she's the worst actress in the world, but she's still a bad one.



o plz like you look any better.

[Assassin32]

why is seeing jessica naked so important to you? besides it adding to your sick perverted fantasies of her. her being toplesss would not enhance the storyline in anyway it would simply have been sleezy and degraded the movie in my opinion which is probably wat director rodriguiez thought and thats why he didnt allow alba to go toplesss.

Robert Rodriguez would have definately allowed Alba to go topless. But, she said she wouldn't.

[kevinpenni]

is this 100% confirmed yet?

[Kel]

Robert Rodriguez would have definately allowed Alba to go topless. But, she said she wouldn't.

This is his actual quote....


Nancy as an Exotic Dancer vs. a Topless Dancer: “Some of the things were just decisions for keeping the sexiness of something, but not necessarily being like it is in the book. There are single panels but when you it in the movie it just keeps going. After a certain point it would look like we’re just filming for our own pleasure, rather than getting the point of the story [across].”
Jessica Alba and Nudity: “She probably wouldn’t have done the topless nudity and also the way the Nancy character was built, she wouldn’t have looked like that anyway. It would have had to have been a special effect anyway. If you look at the book it was just unbelievable. Like, ‘Frank, I think your hand went a little astray here.’ No one really looks like that.
Rodriguez stands by his decision to add some clothing to Nancy for the movie and said he believes Nancy’s sexiness comes across, even without the nudity. “It was very important that we retained the sexiness of it. Like in the world of the comic, they just think that Nancy’s the sexiest person in the world and [addressing his comment to Alba] you did that. That’s all we needed. This works. It gets that across,” explained Rodriguez.

Source: about.com/sin city

[Mr. Socko]

It's a shame they went for name recognition. As hot as Alba is, there are many other actresses out there that are hotter, better actresses, and willing to get naked for the camera. Don't get me wrong, she was ok in the role, but they could have done better.

And the reason the nakedness is important is because she is a stripper.

I completely agree.

why is seeing jessica naked so important to you? besides it adding to your sick perverted fantasies of her. her being toplesss would not enhance the storyline in anyway would simply have been sleezy and degraded the movie in my opinion which is probably wat director rodriguiez thought and thats why he didnt allow alba to go toplesss.

WOW, You are an idiot. The movie has other nude scenes so why would Rob Rod think that. Plus he's made TONS of movies that have nudity and sex scenes in them. Have you ever seen Desperado or From Dusk Till Dawn

[Assassin32]

This is his actual quote....


Nancy as an Exotic Dancer vs. a Topless Dancer: “Some of the things were just decisions for keeping the sexiness of something, but not necessarily being like it is in the book. There are single panels but when you it in the movie it just keeps going. After a certain point it would look like we’re just filming for our own pleasure, rather than getting the point of the story [across].”
Jessica Alba and Nudity: “She probably wouldn’t have done the topless nudity and also the way the Nancy character was built, she wouldn’t have looked like that anyway. It would have had to have been a special effect anyway. If you look at the book it was just unbelievable. Like, ‘Frank, I think your hand went a little astray here.’ No one really looks like that.
Rodriguez stands by his decision to add some clothing to Nancy for the movie and said he believes Nancy’s sexiness comes across, even without the nudity. “It was very important that we retained the sexiness of it. Like in the world of the comic, they just think that Nancy’s the sexiest person in the world and [addressing his comment to Alba] you did that. That’s all we needed. This works. It gets that across,” explained Rodriguez.

Source: about.com/sin city

That really does sound like an excuse he's making so the fans will stop bugging him as much.

[green]

This is from Spideylover89's post in the misc film section on Comic-Con

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243488
Thursday:
First panel I hit wasn't actually a film one, but it could wind up one someday. Rosario Dawson presented a new comic book she helped create called Occult Crimes Taskforce. Since this is about movies, she did happen to mention a few things about Grind House and Sin City 2. Though not much was revealed about Grindhouse (officially the panel is tomorrow) she did mention that the film will have a scratchy, drive-in theatre look and will be one of those "so cheesey it's good" films that QT and RR do so well. She also mentioned Sin City 2 was in fact holding out for Angelina Jolie and Robert was keen on having her star in Dame so she needed to have her baby first. They are shooting for a mid 2007 release date, but nothing is final yet...oh and she is definitely returning for Gale.

:up:

[Bluefire]

WOW, You are an idiot. The movie has other nude scenes so why would Rob Rod think that. Plus he's made TONS of movies that have nudity and sex scenes in them. Have you ever seen Desperado or From Dusk Till Dawn


and you are an *******. i am aware the movie has tons of nude scenes not nearly as much as your pathetic self is making it out to be.But there is a difference between tasteful nudity and simply skanky unattractive nudity. The scene with topless goldey was neccessary to convey her goddess like nature to marv and incase you didn't realise many greek paintings of goddess had them topless. Seeing "innocent" nancy shakin her saggy goodies would not at all have been tasteful it would been quite skanky and degrading movie wise i'm sure many critics would have panned this movie as a porno if they played that scene from the comics directly into the film.

[Lobster Charlie]

Please, dude. The movie contains over-the-top graphic violence, where a man gets his arms and legs chopped off and eaten alive, another gets his penis pull off and pounded into his face, and yet another gets shot to **** with enough bullets to take out 10 men.

And you're saying that seeing a STRIPPER NAKED is somehow distasteful?

For the last time: Crack kills. Put down the pipe.

[Kel]

How about we simply discuss and leave the name-calling somewhere else....

[The Dark Defender]

Foolish statement. you are aware that the woman angelina was playing was acctually thought to have been a witch? or some truly demonic like woman? so from your statments above angelina played the character perfectly.

Not really, since a witch and a vampire bride from Van Helsing are nothing alike. Her performance was more like a ridiculous parody of a demonic woman; and if anybody would know about foolish statements, it's someone that says "o plz..."

[The Dark Defender]

o plz like you look any better.

I'm a guy; and yes I do, as do most.

[The Dark Defender]

uma thurman? that wrinkled up a hoe? i don't think so! angelina all the way!!!

There's no foundation for your "hoe" claim(and it's a term more fitting of the woman that you're praising than you're bashing), and it in no way pertains to the actresses looks or acting ability(and Jolie has more wrinkles than Uma does, even though she's younger).

[COME ON !]

I'm a guy; and yes I do, as do most.

You're a dude and you're calling Angelina Jolie fugly ? I feel for you:( I shall pray for you to change your wicked, misguided ways.

[The Apatow Crew]

You're a dude and you're calling Angelina Jolie fugly ? I feel for you:( I shall pray for you to change your wicked, misguided ways.Hey Everyone has there own opions. like the people who call Jessica Alba ugly or unattractive i don'r get mad well most of the time i don't i don't but i understand thats there opinion. and i'm cool with that.

[The Apatow Crew]

I liked Alba.I think we all know i do. considering my name.:)

[Carnage24]

i dont see how anyone can call these women ugly. Unless you have a you fat woman fetish and like them to sit on your face.

[newwaveboy87]

Film portrayal
Sin City 2 is the sequel to the 2005 movie Sin City, which was based on Miller's graphic novels. It will be released in 2007, although an exact release date has yet to be confirmed. It was revealed by director Robert Rodríguez that the story for film to be based around would be A Dame to Kill For as well as new stories to be written by Miller.

Although Rosario Dawson has said Angelina Jolie will portray Ava in Sin City 2, an interview with Frank Miller has revealed that there are three rumored frontrunners for the role of Ava Lord: Jolie, Salma Hayek, and Rose McGowan.
Source: Wikipedia
you know...i'd like to see all three of those woman in a Sin City film sometime in the future. i know that Salma is just a matter of time because she's appeared in nearly all of RR's films.

[Darth Elektra]

Yea, I hope that Salma is in one of them!

[Mr. Socko]

She'll definitely have some part, same for Trejo.

I was actually surprised when Rourke got the role of Marv and not Trejo.

[newwaveboy87]

oh man...i can't wait for Trejo to show up! that man is a badass. :up:

[Darth Elektra]

True, he rocks.

[Bat Attack]

uma thurman? that wrinkled up a hoe? i don't think so! angelina all the way!!!
Yeah, well it's not like you'll ever get a woman as beautiful or talented as Uma Thurman. :down

[Darth Elektra]

Uma would be good for a role but Angelino Jolie will rock.

[kevinpenni]

Uma could do anything, she's a great actress.

[kevinpenni]

We've heard it for months, and just recently US Weekly confirmed she signed for the film.
http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Angelina-Jolie-isn-t-hurrying-into-marriage-2.jpg


What are your thoughts? The film has such an incredible ensemble cast and I'm excited to see how she will work with them.

[xwolverine2]

wow.........you made a thread for every single crew member having anything to ever do with sincity!!

angelina jolie shall OWN sincity!

[kevinpenni]

Yeah... haha. I'm trying to make this damn board alive.

[xwolverine2]

angelina jolie shall own YOU and your attempts!

[kevinpenni]

I want her to OWN me... i'll put myself up for adoption if I have to. :p

[xwolverine2]

ill adopt HER

[kevinpenni]

Aren't there some great manips of Jolie as Ava? Come on people... post them!

[kevinpenni]

http://www.bartcop.com/angelina_jolie-maddox.jpg :D

[gtkilla]

http://www.ecranlarge.com/images/cinema/news/contenu/ava_lord_02.jpg
http://img233.exs.cx/img233/6861/playstationmagazine070100160vy.jpg
i found these on google :up: :D

[MalroyChick11]

I'd love her for Ava. It's strange, I was reading the book and it almost seemed like Frank Miller based Ava's looks on Angelina. Strange how it seems like that for the rest of the cast (except Jessica Alba) too...

[kevinpenni]

yeah the Sin City films seem to be cast perfectly :up:

[batboy99]

one of the things i love about sin city is that its filled with all sorts of famous actors and actresses

[kevinpenni]

i dont see how anyone can call these women ugly.

I agree :up: they are all hot.

[newwaveboy87]

it's like a Maxim reader's wet dream! :eek:

[newwaveboy87]

darn that Hype slowness.

[kevinpenni]

it's like a Maxim reader's wet dream! :eek:

You know I remember thinking half of the chicks from the film would be on the cover of Maxim to promote but all we got was Brittany Murphy... not that i'm complaining, but three or four is always better than two.

[newwaveboy87]

typical man :mad:



















:p

[The Apatow Crew]

You know I remember thinking half of the chicks from the film would be on the cover of Maxim to promote but all we got was Brittany Murphy... not that i'm complaining, but three or four is always better than two.What you expecting Brittany,Jessica, Rosario and Alexia all on the cover? lol

[kevinpenni]

What you expecting Brittany,Jessica, Rosario and Alexia all on the cover? lol

I would have loved them all to be on the cover, throw in Devon, Jaime and Carla in too.

Actually though, I was expecting Jaime, Brittany and Rosario/Jessica. Semi-similar to the X-Men cover we got with Halle, Rebecca and Famke :up:

[kevinpenni]

Angelina Jolie Avoids Dad at Hollywood Bash
At a Hollywood birthday event for Brad Pitt's co-star, Angelina Jolie refused to enter the party scene until her estranged father had left.

Angelina Jolie and her boyfriend, Brad Pitt, were upset at actor Scott Caan's Hollywood birthday bash, when Angelina Jolie realized that her estranged father, actor Jon Voight, had also been invited.

Angelina Jolie was so determined not to come face-to-face with the her actor father that she and Brad Pitt waited outside in a car for half-an-hour.

Brad Pitt eventually ventured inside alone to send his birthday wishes to Caan-his "Ocean's Thirteen" co-star.

The moment when Pitt entered the venue, Voight left. Angelina Jolie then entered through the back door.

Angelina Jolie has been long estranged from her father — mainly because she blames his cheating on her mother for the break up of their family. In July 2002 Angelina Jolie filed a request to legally change her name to "Angelina Jolie", dropping Voight as her last name

In August of the same year Voight had claimed that his daughter has "serious emotional problems" on Access Hollywood.

In the October 2004 issue of Premiere Magazine Jolie indicated that she was no longer interested in pursuing a relationship with her father, "My father and I don’t speak. I don’t hold any anger toward him. I don’t believe that somebody’s family becomes their blood. Because my son’s adopted, and families are earned."

Jon Voight has not met his grandchildren.

http://toronto.fashion-monitor.com/news.php/toronto_celebrities/2006082705Angelina-Jolie

[newwaveboy87]

....:(
that's so sad

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

It's stupid how Voight and Jolie have been avoiding each other, rather, Jolie been avoiding her father.Voight just wnats her friggin daughter in his arms. That's one thing I hate about Jolie.

I honestly don't care what caused this big fall-out: they're family and should always forgive each other.

[Sentinel X]

Angelina Jolie Avoids Dad at Hollywood Bash
At a Hollywood birthday event for Brad Pitt's co-star, Angelina Jolie refused to enter the party scene until her estranged father had left.

Angelina Jolie and her boyfriend, Brad Pitt, were upset at actor Scott Caan's Hollywood birthday bash, when Angelina Jolie realized that her estranged father, actor Jon Voight, had also been invited.

Angelina Jolie was so determined not to come face-to-face with the her actor father that she and Brad Pitt waited outside in a car for half-an-hour.

Brad Pitt eventually ventured inside alone to send his birthday wishes to Caan-his "Ocean's Thirteen" co-star.

The moment when Pitt entered the venue, Voight left. Angelina Jolie then entered through the back door.

Angelina Jolie has been long estranged from her father — mainly because she blames his cheating on her mother for the break up of their family. In July 2002 Angelina Jolie filed a request to legally change her name to "Angelina Jolie", dropping Voight as her last name

In August of the same year Voight had claimed that his daughter has "serious emotional problems" on Access Hollywood.

In the October 2004 issue of Premiere Magazine Jolie indicated that she was no longer interested in pursuing a relationship with her father, "My father and I don’t speak. I don’t hold any anger toward him. I don’t believe that somebody’s family becomes their blood. Because my son’s adopted, and families are earned."

Jon Voight has not met his grandchildren.

http://toronto.fashion-monitor.com/news.php/toronto_celebrities/2006082705Angelina-JolieI think Jolie needs to at least try...from what I see John seems very sorry and wants to talk to her again. People have to forgive each other no matter how hard it is, there is no point in keeping grudges

[kevinpenni]

Wasn't she the one who wanted him to play her dad in the Tomb Raider films?What the hell happened.

[xwolverine2]

what?

[kevinpenni]

Her real dad was her dad in Tomb Raider, too.

[xwolverine2]

duh

[Sentinel X]

^^^Do you even get what shes talking about??

Shes saying that he suggested her dad to be in Tomb Raider, da movie!!

[Balian]

Seems like she's definitely pregnant again, so if Rodriguez insists on Angelina playing Ava, it may have to be set back another 9-12 months.

http://www.justjared.com/images/2006/08/angelina-jolie-pregnant-again.jpg

[newwaveboy87]

...?

[kevinpenni]

http://www.tmz.com/2006/08/29/voight-to-jolie-regards-to-whats-her-name/

angelina's dad is crazy... :rolleyes: :p

[newwaveboy87]

Seems like she's definitely pregnant again, so if Rodriguez insists on Angelina playing Ava, it may have to be set back another 9-12 months.

http://www.justjared.com/images/2006/08/angelina-jolie-pregnant-again.jpg
she's not pregnant.
check out the photos on the bottom.

http://popsugar.com/26899

[Max J Power]

Angelina Jolie does not have the voice I pictured for Ava.

[kevinpenni]

what did you imagine her sounding like?

[Sentinel X]

I think her voice would be perfect. Ava is suppose to be suductive, which would explain how she gets what she wants. Angelina's voice is defintely suductive imo

[xwolverine2]

^^^Do you even get what shes talking about??

Shes saying that he suggested her dad to be in Tomb Raider, da movie!!
..................???:huh:

[moonraker]

News is really slow for Sin City 2. I wonder what's going on.

[xwolverine2]

karea- you should make your avvy black and white so that it looks like sin city....

it would be funny if angelina jolie wasnt cast...

[The Apatow Crew]

News is really slow for Sin City 2. I wonder what's going on.I know what you mean. Whats the hold up? i'm affraid we won't have SC2 out until 2008 or so.

[xwolverine2]

theres always Grindhouse.... and 300

[gvcool2]

and spider-man

[xwolverine2]

^
doesnt count

[gvcool2]

why not?

[xwolverine2]

because i was talking about RR and Frank millar....

if you include sm3 then i have a huge list waiting!.........bich!

[gvcool2]

i'm much more anticipating Rodriguez's picture than QT's, somehow a murderous car doesn't really float my boat, although christine was pretty good, RR and zombies will definetly own, he did with vampires at least

[xwolverine2]

i'm much more anticipating Rodriguez's picture than QT's, somehow a murderous car doesn't really float my boat, although christine was pretty good, RR and zombies will definetly own, he did with vampires at least
QT could make the simplest story into a masterpiece.............you just wait.

although RR story is good........ im def. waiting for QTs more... especially with kurt russel!:wow:

RR's looks like it will have a bunch of mindless stuff....lol
QT' looks like it will be VERY interesting and sweet.

[gvcool2]

ye I have no doubts QT will deliver, it's just RR's working from the best genre and we know how much he loves his blood...gore+kurt russel = heaven, maybe russel will do some snake style kicking ass

[xwolverine2]

im pretty darn sure QT has spilled more blood than any other director....ever

[gvcool2]

peter jackson > QT (bloodwise)

[xwolverine2]

ummm....... you do realized he used like 8,000 gallons of blood for one movie right?

[gvcool2]

ummmm....you clearly have never Dead Alive

[xwolverine2]

i seriously doubt it out does KILLBILLvol.1.......

[gvcool2]

oh so naive, go check it out before you attempt to confirm that

[xwolverine2]

have you seen KB?

[gvcool2]

yep a number of times, and the rubbish second part

[xwolverine2]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[gvcool2]

it just didn't work well going from a full out gorefest/action movie to a 2 hour talk fest

[xwolverine2]

ugh............................................... ....................

[Sentinel X]

I think the second and first are tied in terms of goodness

[xwolverine2]

^
exactly

[newwaveboy87]

I think the second and first are tied in terms of goodness
i actually liked the second one more

[Lobster Charlie]

They both have their moments, but are just eye-candy flicks. Not QT's best, in fact, I'd say easily his worst. Just silly hyperviolence, but gorgeously shot.

[Rac]

i seriously doubt it out does KILLBILLvol.1....... It does. As far as I remember. There's hellofalotta blood when there's a house full of zombies and you have lawnmover.

And I don't think neither of them (QT and PJ) are The Blood Masters. Some guy who directs only bloody b-horror movies or some crazy Asian guy is The Master.

[Sillabub]

They both have their moments, but are just eye-candy flicks. Not QT's best, in fact, I'd say easily his worst. Just silly hyperviolence, but gorgeously shot.

I agree. Hooray for silly hyperviolence!

[gvcool2]

It does. As far as I remember. There's hellofalotta blood when there's a house full of zombies and you have lawnmover.

And I don't think neither of them (QT and PJ) are The Blood Masters. Some guy who directs only bloody b-horror movies or some crazy Asian guy is The Master.

I think dead alive got a world record for most fake blood used in a movie

[xwolverine2]

i demand the facts!

[gvcool2]

google it

[Sentinel X]

Ooohhh...someone just got told :o

[newwaveboy87]

i demand the facts!
stop spanking it to QT and realize that he's not the be-all end-all god of cinema. he actually rips off a lot of things from other movies, but he does it in a really fun and unique way. he makes it not derivative.

[Darth Elektra]

Im a fan of QT work.

[The Apatow Crew]

i see this is the most posted thread in tghe SC2 board compared to everything else.

[Rac]

i demand the facts!
Watch it.

Or (from IMDb):

Braindead:
- During the lawnmower scene, blood was pumped at five gallons per second.
- 300 liters of fake blood was used in the final scene of the film.
- The movie is said to be the bloodiest of all time (measured in amount of film blood used during the production).

Kill Bill: Vol. 1
- Christopher Allen Nelson, who worked on the special effects, revealed in interview that over 450 gallons of fake blood were used on the two Kill Bill movies.

But none of those say the exact amount of blood used in the movies. http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7544/iconneutralku8.gif

[xwolverine2]

Qt Is God!

[Elisha Cuthbert]

QT would be god if he stopped smoking the ganga and came up with his own films that didn't "homage" a thousand other movies.

[newwaveboy87]

exactly.
QT just rips off a thousand little-known/little-seen films, writes interesting dialogue, and then places his name on it.

he's starting to do with his producing credits too. Hero, i think it was, wasn't a QT film but his name was all over the posters leading one to believe that it was.

[Space Moose]

exactly.
QT just rips off a thousand little-known/little-seen films, writes interesting dialogue, and then places his name on it.

he's starting to do with his producing credits too. Hero, i think it was, wasn't a QT film but his name was all over the posters leading one to believe that it was.
He produced the release in the US. No actual on-set aid.

[newwaveboy87]

that's all he did. :huh:
ALL of the advertisement for that film had his name all over everything. EVERYTHING!

nice way to make your participation in a film seem triple what it really was. :down

QT needs to get over himself and let his ego go.

[AtrophyG4]

that's all he did. :huh:
ALL of the advertisement for that film had his name all over everything. EVERYTHING!

nice way to make your participation in a film seem triple what it really was. :down

QT needs to get over himself and let his ego go.

Thats actually a good marketing idea considering his fan base. That movie might not have been released in the US if he hadn't backed its release. People see that, and see that he was willing to put his own money into funding it's release and think to themselves, "Man, if Tarantino thought this was good movie, it might be worth going to see."

[MrHateYourself]

Thats actually a good marketing idea considering his fan base. That movie might not have been released in the US if he hadn't backed its release. People see that, and see that he was willing to put his own money into funding it's release and think to themselves, "Man, if Tarantino thought this was good movie, it might be worth going to see."

What happens instead is people see his name and assume it's his movie. See:Hostel....or Mighty Peking Man....or Hero...

People simply don't bother to read credits-just ask any whiny high school goth kid what their favorite Tim Burton movie is and they'll all shoot "Nightmare Before Christmas"...inform them that they didn't direct it, and despite having never looked at the credits they KNOW it's him. Damn kids. Get off my lawn!

[AtrophyG4]

What happens instead is people see his name and assume it's his movie. See:Hostel....or Mighty Peking Man....or Hero...

People simply don't bother to read credits-just ask any whiny high school goth kid what their favorite Tim Burton movie is and they'll all shoot "Nightmare Before Christmas"...inform them that they didn't direct it, and despite having never looked at the credits they KNOW it's him. Damn kids. Get off my lawn!

Ignorance of the masses is no excuse for anybody, but it is definatly exploited in advertising. I myself saw the previews and saw QT's name on it. After looking into it I saw it wasn't his film, but one he enjoyed and wanted to share with a group of people that would not see it without outside involvment. I enjoyed Hero and am glad that he backed it. I can't really say the same for Hostel and I have not seen Mighty Peking Man. To put it metaphorically, its not real smart to dive in head first without knowing how deep the water is, and you don't have any right to complain when you crack your head on the ground a foot underwater.

And I hate the little Nightmare, Hot Topic Posers too. :up:

[MrHateYourself]

And I hate the little Nightmare, Hot Topic Posers too. :up:

Love the film, hate the fans.

[newwaveboy87]

Nightmare, that's a film i'd consider to be Burton's despite not having directed.
all of the songs, character/production designs, storylines, hell...he wrote the poem that the movie was based on and actually DID the designs for 95% of the characters, props, and backgrounds. it's his baby.

his doing Batman Returns prevented him from directing it though. but seeing as how it is so much his, i'd consider it his film.

[MrHateYourself]

So, the writers credited for the story/script/songs, and the character designers are there just to share the joy?

The topic came up in an interview around the time of Charlie, I think it was in Premeire.....eitherway, Burton specifically mentioned having only done a few sketches and the original poem it was based on.

But then, Burton has also claimed to have never read a comic book in his life, despite having worked on the Batman films and stating during THOSE interviews that he'd read things....

As original and unBurton as Nightmare is, I'm plenty willing to believe that he did almost nothing for it.

[newwaveboy87]

Nightmare is unBurton? :huh:
rent the dvd and watch the making of featurettes. Danny talks about writing the songs and how Burton would tell him the storyline, what he wanted, and then had to ok them. the script was written from his poem, and he had to ok it. there's also loads and loads of drawings he had done for the characters.

trust me, this is one of my favorite movies...ever. i remember seeing it in theaters when i was younger, read just about everything, seen just about everything.

also, Burton has a tendency to lie during interviews with the press because he hates having to explain/defend his works. that and he just rather hates the whole publicity machine of Hollywood. there's a reason he lives in London now.

[Mr. Socko]

I personally like Rob Rod more then QTip.

[Game Player]

Thats because you're crazy Socko!!!!!!!!

QT owns that fool

[newwaveboy87]

...i guess
it's all a matter of personal taste really

[Mr. Socko]

as for that other guy.......


People simply don't bother to read credits-just ask any whiny high school goth kid what their favorite Tim Burton movie is and they'll all shoot "Nightmare Before Christmas"...inform them that they didn't direct it, and despite having never looked at the credits they KNOW it's him. Damn kids. Get off my lawn!

You fool, The Nightmare before X-Mas is a Tim Burton film and it's about as Tim Burtonish as you can possibly get. He didn't direct it, but if you've ever seen it, you'd know that it's still a Burton movie. Ask anyone what they're favorite Tim Burton movie is and they'll say The Nightmare before Xmas and be completely correct.

[MrHateYourself]

as for that other guy.......



You fool, The Nightmare before X-Mas is a Tim Burton film and it's about as Tim Burtonish as you can possibly get. He didn't direct it, but if you've ever seen it, you'd know that it's still a Burton movie. Ask anyone what they're favorite Tim Burton movie is and they'll say The Nightmare before Xmas and be completely correct.

Yeah, and Empire Strikes Back is as George Lucasish as you can get. :whatever:

Sorry guy-doesn't bear his visual style, isn't written designed or directed by him....watch, say, James And The Giant Peach and tell me that Nightmare is Burtonish?

Ah, but then, there are people in this world who think Rob Zombie's art/animation is "zombie"ish and not a blatent rip...so asking a common dullard their opinion is certainly not a reliable test. Or, as we've been discussing also, QT who's "undeniable style" is recreating scenes and lines...etc.