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The Joker
08-26-2006, 06:27 PM
This is an appreciation thread dedicated to the greatest Batman villain of them all, The Joker. He is certainly my favorite Batman villain, and like with my fav Spidey villain Doc Ock, I'd like to start a fan thread for The Joker.

Discuss all things that is Joker. From the comics, to the cartoons, to the movies.


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I'd like to kick off a topic which I'm sure is on alot of Joker fans minds, and that is Heath Ledger's casting as the Joker. How does everyone feel about that??

Personally, I think he can do it. Physically he's good for the Joker. So that's half the battle. As an actor, from what I've seen of him he is good. nd I know he must of done a hell of a good screen test for Nolan to hire him.

Batnam
08-29-2006, 03:43 PM
Great idea! I think Heath will be fantastic as long as they nail his look. I can't talk crap because Nolan and Bale are saying how great Heath will be. I belive in Nolan.

The Joker
08-29-2006, 08:15 PM
At last, someone shows an interest. I was beginning to think Mr J had no fans around here!

I too have faith in Nolan. He's been the most faithful to the comics than any other comic book movie director. And I like that. He respects the source.

Ok, favorite Joker moments in the comics. A few of mine would be:

-When Scarecrow sprayed him with fear gas in the Knightfall saga. And it had NO effect on him. He just laughed it off. The Joker fears NOTHING!!

-When he beat Jason Todd with a crow bar, and then said afterwards while his hands were dripping in blood "My, but that was fun. Kind of messy though" It's that kind of sick humour that I love about him.

-In the Long Halloween, on New Year's eve when he steals a plane and plans to kill everyone with some lethal gas, so he can kill the Holiday killer, he and Batman are fighting on the plane and Joker says "One question. At midnight do I get a kiss??" :joker:

Keyser Soze
08-30-2006, 09:35 AM
Hey! I was just about to make a thread like this!:up:

When talking about my favourite Joker moments, I can't fail to mention "The Killing Joke". I'd say it's the best comic book ever written.

And here's another awesome pic of The Joker, from "The Man Who Laughs":

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/JokerManWhoLaughs.jpg

Batnam
08-30-2006, 10:13 AM
I loved the joker in "Arkham Asylum". Not only was the art done well, his character was incredible. The first time I saw him in it I almost craped in my pants. That part in "Long Halloween" was great too, Doc Ock. But I also like all of Tim Sale and Jeph Loeb's Batman comics. It seems some of the darker comics such as "The Killing Joke" and "Arkham Asylum" is when the Joker is at his best.

The Joker
08-30-2006, 10:51 AM
Hey! I was just about to make a thread like this!:up:

Hey, welcome Keyser. I was hoping you'd see this thread ;)

When talking about my favourite Joker moments, I can't fail to mention "The Killing Joke". I'd say it's the best comic book ever written.

Defo :up:

The art compliments the dark and gritty story. I think this was a turning point for Joker too. Its where he was shown what he's really capable of. Prior to the Killing joke he was the psychotic madman who terrorized Gotham with his sadistic pranks and crazy schemes. Which was fine. But with this story, he finally stepped over the line and hit Batman where it hurt. He attacked a friend.

And here's another awesome pic of The Joker, from "The Man Who Laughs":

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/JokerManWhoLaughs.jpg

Great story. Very faithful to Joker's original story in Batman #1. My only gripe is that Joker wasn't in it as much as I would have liked.

OtepApe
08-30-2006, 11:12 AM
Hey Ock, too be honest I thought you would have started a thread like this a long time ago.

Some Joker goodness

http://www.marvelfamily.com/images/comics/DCComics/JokerLastLaugh/JokerLastLaugh001.jpg

http://www.marvelfamily.com/images/comics/DCComics/JokerLastLaugh/JokerLastLaugh006.jpg

http://www.mp-shoot.com/comics101/images/2004/mar10/joker.jpg

Batnam
08-30-2006, 02:59 PM
Great pics ^

The Joker
08-30-2006, 04:26 PM
Hey Ock, too be honest I thought you would have started a thread like this a long time ago.

I know, I've been lazy. To be honest, I thought someone around here would have done it years ago. I mean its the Joker. He deserves a thread where he is the king :joker:

Some Joker goodness

http://www.marvelfamily.com/images/comics/DCComics/JokerLastLaugh/JokerLastLaugh001.jpg

http://www.marvelfamily.com/images/comics/DCComics/JokerLastLaugh/JokerLastLaugh006.jpg

http://www.mp-shoot.com/comics101/images/2004/mar10/joker.jpg

Sweet :up:

I never read the Last laugh. Is it any good??

Bathead
08-30-2006, 05:43 PM
What do y'all think of the proposals that some fans have stated they would like to see in TDk, such as -
No bright colors, pale albino like skin, not chalk white. Dark green hair, almost black. Carved smile, carves smiles on his victims, is basally just a serial killer, Doesn't act "zany", etc., all supposedly to fit In Nolan's "realistic" bat-world
Myself, I think they don't get the Joker. As a matter of fact, Nolan probably gets it more than they do. I mean he's Hired Jerry robinson as advisor. and I put forth that there's no-one more qualified as an expert on the Joker than him.

The Joker
08-30-2006, 05:51 PM
What do y'all think of the proposals that some fans have stated they would like to see in TDk, such as -
No bright colors, pale albino like skin, not chalk white. Dark green hair, almost black. Carved smile, carves smiles on his victims, is basally just a serial killer, Doesn't act "zany", etc., all supposedly to fit In Nolan's "realistic" bat-world

Then those people do not want to see the Joker on screen. No bright colours, carves the smile on his victims, doesn't act crazy and zany??

That would be JINO.

Myself, I think they don't get the Joker. As a matter of fact, Nolan probably gets it more than they do. I mean he's Hired Jerry robinson as advisor. and I put forth that there's no-one more qualified as an expert on the Joker than him.

I was very happy to hear he hired Jerry. Nolan seems to respect the comic books. So he should make the Joker exactly what he should be. There is no middle ground with a character like Joker.

Either you do him right or you don't.

Keyser Soze
08-30-2006, 06:03 PM
Nolan also said in an interview that his two main influences on this interpretation of The Joker will be "The Killing Joke", and The Joker's first appearance back in 1941. So that means we'll be getting the Joker we know and love. And as for the whole thing about the white skin and green hair, why is everybody agonising over the logistics? Why worry about whether its make-up, or he's albino, or if he fell in a vat of chemicals. I think it would be cool if it's never explained. He's just The Joker, and that's the way he is. Draw your own conclusions.

And here's a couple of cool manips of Heath Ledger as The Joker:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/826/565kj7.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/cask8er87/heath2.jpg

The Joker
08-30-2006, 06:08 PM
The Joker wasn't very zany in his first appearance. I think Nolan might be taking his lust for killing his victims with style from that one. And hopefully taking the Joker's witty, zany insanity from the Killing Joke. Its one of Joker's most psychologically powerful stories.

As for the manips, I like the 2nd one the best. His hair is not green enough in the 1st one, nor are his lips red enough. Not to mention no purple suit.

Charlie No-One
08-30-2006, 06:52 PM
I, as of recently, just got interested in the Joker. Can't wait for the movie.

Keyser Soze
08-31-2006, 08:07 AM
I, as of recently, just got interested in the Joker. Can't wait for the movie.

You just got interested in The Joker, eh? Well, if you haven't already, check out "The Killing Joke". That will get you A LOT more interested. :joker:

OtepApe
08-31-2006, 08:21 AM
I know, I've been lazy. To be honest, I thought someone around here would have done it years ago. I mean its the Joker. He deserves a thread where he is the king :joker:

I think they have been attempted before, but not lasted very long. let's see if we can make this one just a little different. They obviously didn't have the right people before.

Sweet :up:

I never read the Last laugh. Is it any good??

Ashamed to say I have not read it either.

As far as Joker in TDK, I don't want to see an origin for him. I want it to be left up to our own devices to draw a conclusion of where this man came from. With Nolan saying he's drawing from The Killing Joke aswell, then it leads me to believe we may some kind of origin story for him.

Plus, who thinks he's going to go the Babs Gordon route and paralyse Rachel Dawes?

The Joker
08-31-2006, 04:36 PM
I think they have been attempted before, but not lasted very long. let's see if we can make this one just a little different. They obviously didn't have the right people before.

I'll make it work. Like the Joker, this thread shall not die :joker: :hq:

Plus, who thinks he's going to go the Babs Gordon route and paralyse Rachel Dawes?

Ugh, I hope he doesn't do that. It wouldn't have the same impact as Barbara's crippling did. Joker trying to prove a point with Barbara and her dad. There's no reason to cripple Rachel. Anyway, I don't think the fans care for Rachel nearly as much as they do for Barbara, who has two things going for her:

1. She's Gordon's daughter
2. She used to be Batgirl

So she's special to both Gordon and Batman. Its a double whammy. No, presonally I hope Joker just kills Rachel in his usual theatrical and nasty style.

OtepApe
08-31-2006, 04:43 PM
Ugh, I hope he doesn't do that. It wouldn't have the same impact as Barbara's crippling did. Joker trying to prove a point with Barbara and her dad. There's no reason to cripple Rachel. Anyway, I don't think the fans care for Rachel nearly as much as they do for Barbara, who has two things going for her:

1. She's Gordon's daughter
2. She used to be Batgirl

So she's special to both Gordon and Batman. Its a double whammy. No, presonally I hope Joker just kills Rachel in his usual theatrical and nasty style.

I don't know, I don't think she's going to be just there as fodder for Mr J. I think something will happen to her but it may be killing or it may be the paralysing. To be honest, Nolan strikes me as someone who has originality to him. So it could be something totally different.

I think she may strike up a relationship with Harvey, so then whatever Joker does to her, it will piss both Dent and Bats off.

Although, with Joker doing something to her, I hope it's sick, twisted and downright evil.:joker:

The Joker
08-31-2006, 04:58 PM
I don't know, I don't think she's going to be just there as fodder for Mr J.

Oh I'm not saying she will be. I'm sure she'll have a purpose in the story. She knows Batman's identity now too. So that'll be interesting.

I think something will happen to her but it may be killing or it may be the paralysing. To be honest, Nolan strikes me as someone who has originality to him. So it could be something totally different.

I think she may strike up a relationship with Harvey, so then whatever Joker does to her, it will piss both Dent and Bats off.

As long as she dies, I'll be happy. Joker has to kill someone significant in this movie IMO.

Although, with Joker doing something to her, I hope it's sick, twisted and downright evil.:joker:

Sick, twisted, and evil is all he knows ;)

Just let her try and use her little stun gun on the Joker, she'll regret it :mad:

titan101
08-31-2006, 05:05 PM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/cask8er87/heath2.jpg huh , never saw that one before . it's pretty good!

titan101
08-31-2006, 05:13 PM
http://shdictionary.tripod.com/superheroes/joker.jpg

http://superherouniverse.com/superheroes/images/batman/btas/joker.jpg

http://www.signifier.co.uk/joker/images/joker1_01.jpg


http://batinthesun.com/gallery/Joker's%20purple%20hat.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Jokerkillingjoke.png


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/MikeDeodatoJoker.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/12/HarleyqLG.jpg/479px-HarleyqLG.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/HarleyqLG.jpg)

Mister J
08-31-2006, 05:16 PM
This is a great idea, Ock. :up:

Allow me to cast my vote with the lot who feels The Joker should kill Rachel. The intense dynamic between Batman and The Joker needs to be firmly established. In the comics, it goes beyond just 'good v. evil', primarily because of the personal havoc that Mr. J has wreaked upon Batman. No better way to transfer that relationship on screen than having our dear Clown Prince of Crime murder someone who speaks to both Bruce Wayne and Batman.

The Joker
08-31-2006, 07:42 PM
http://superherouniverse.com/superheroes/images/batman/btas/joker.jpg


LOL! :up: Love it *Right clicks and saves*

This is a great idea, Ock. :up:

Thank you, thank you. And welcome to the Joker's fun house. I can't guarantee you'll get out alive :joker: :hq:

Allow me to cast my vote with the lot who feels The Joker should kill Rachel. The intense dynamic between Batman and The Joker needs to be firmly established. In the comics, it goes beyond just 'good v. evil', primarily because of the personal havoc that Mr. J has wreaked upon Batman. No better way to transfer that relationship on screen than having our dear Clown Prince of Crime murder someone who speaks to both Bruce Wayne and Batman.

Exactly.

There should be no crippling, only death. Joker has to kill a significant character, and a character who really wont be terribly missed. Rachel fits the bill nicely. Plus it makes it seem nastier that he murders a defenseless woman, who was Batman's childhood friend.

How would you guys like her to die?? Joker just shoot her?? Poison her with his smilex?? Lethal handshake??

Charlie No-One
08-31-2006, 07:46 PM
I always thought it would be cool if the Joker used one of Batman's tools, like the batgrapple, changed it so it would be more like a "Joker-Grapple" and shoot it through someone. Not saying I want that to happen with Rachel, but to somebody.

Mister J
08-31-2006, 08:27 PM
I'd like for him to shoot her, but with some style; maybe even a slight resemblence to the scene from The Killing Joke. Someone had an idea awhile back about making the shooting a bigger spectacle. I'm babbling on the rest.

Instead of shooting Rachel when she opens the door, The Joker forces his way inside with a gun drawn on her. Joker goes on a dramtic rant about how she's limiting his fun and how he plans to turn all of Gotham into his stage. After Rachel noticeably feels she's about to die, Joker pulls the trigger only to have the gun seemingly revealed to be a toy equipped with one of those 'BANG' flags. Joker says "Gotcha" starts to laugh maniacally. Rachel looks upon this crazy clown with much confusion and some relief when suddenly Joker pulls the trigger again and the gun impales Rachel with the flag. She falls to the floor and Joker says "Gotcha again" and continues to alternate firing shots and saying "...and again ...and again". The camera is focused on Joker's nearly orgasmic face while he laughs hysterically, then flashes to Rachel's near-lifeless face and then pans out behinds Joker as he reaches into his pocket for something. The camera continues to back out through the still-opened door while the laughter continues.

Upon forwarding to the crime investigation scene, it would be discovered that Rachel was dosed with Joker venom before she finally died, contorting her discolored face into a grotesque smile. A blood-stained Joker playing card would also be left behind.

...or something like that, PG-13 of course. :joker:

OtepApe
09-01-2006, 03:58 AM
I'd like for him to shoot her, but with some style; maybe even a slight resemblence to the scene from The Killing Joke. Someone had an idea awhile back about making the shooting a bigger spectacle. I'm babbling on the rest.

Instead of shooting Rachel when she opens the door, The Joker forces his way inside with a gun drawn on her. Joker goes on a dramtic rant about how she's limiting his fun and how he plans to turn all of Gotham into his stage. After Rachel noticeably feels she's about to die, Joker pulls the trigger only to have the gun seemingly revealed to be a toy equipped with one of those 'BANG' flags. Joker says "Gotcha" starts to laugh maniacally. Rachel looks upon this crazy clown with much confusion and some relief when suddenly Joker pulls the trigger again and the gun impales Rachel with the flag. She falls to the floor and Joker says "Gotcha again" and continues to alternate firing shots and saying "...and again ...and again". The camera is focused on Joker's nearly orgasmic face while he laughs hysterically, then flashes to Rachel's near-lifeless face and then pans out behinds Joker as he reaches into his pocket for something. The camera continues to back out through the still-opened door while the laughter continues.

Upon forwarding to the crime investigation scene, it would be discovered that Rachel was dosed with Joker venom before she finally died, contorting her discolored face into a grotesque smile. A blood-stained Joker playing card would also be left behind.

...or something like that, PG-13 of course. :joker:

That would actually transcend into a damn good scene. I love that idea.

Do we think Joker might kill her in public. To kill someone like that, I would've thought he would want to make it public. For as many people as possible to view it.

CASk8er87
09-01-2006, 04:13 AM
haha awesome first time being in this thread...and my own manip beat me here...haha thats crazy. Im glad to hear you all like my manip. In fact..ill post another of my joker manips for fun :up:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/cask8er87/heath3.jpg

Batnam
09-01-2006, 08:19 AM
Great manip. ^
I think the Joker will be a lot like his first apperance in the comics. He tells everyone what he is going to do, then slips past them. Does anyone think that Nolan will make the Joker a phycical threat to Batman? Such as in hand to hand combat?

The Joker
09-01-2006, 10:31 AM
Woooooo! I got myself an awesome Joker statue today. He's holding a bomb up in the air in his right hand, and holding a gun in his left. And he has the greatest manical smile on his face.

I took a thin strand of cotton wool and stuck it on the fuse of the the bomb, so it looks like he lit it. I'll take a pic of him later.

Does anyone think that Nolan will make the Joker a phycical threat to Batman? Such as in hand to hand combat?

If he wants to stay loyal to the comics then Joker will not be a physical threat. Batman always whups his ass. Joker relies on his nasty toys if Batman gets too close for comfort.

Batnam
09-01-2006, 12:24 PM
What kind of toys do you think he will use?

I just picked up the Joker from Hush. Great toy.

titan101
09-01-2006, 12:33 PM
What kind of toys do you think he will use?

I just picked up the Joker from Hush. Great toy. classic joker venom , electric joy buzzer, jack - in - the - box containing joker venom , etc....

OtepApe
09-02-2006, 09:41 AM
I want to see the razor edged playing cards, although we probably won't see them. But pretty much what titan 101 said.

Two-Face
09-02-2006, 10:10 AM
I want to see Joker venom.

titan101
09-02-2006, 11:59 AM
I want to see the razor edged playing cards, although we probably won't see them. But pretty much what titan 101 said. yeah i'd love some razor edged playing cards , that would be badass.

titan101
09-02-2006, 12:05 PM
we also can't forget the good ol' gun - with - BANG -flag /dart!!!!!:joker:

OtepApe
09-02-2006, 12:30 PM
we also can't forget the good ol' gun - with - BANG -flag /dart!!!!!:joker:

Of course, how could I forget that. It'd work perfectly in the scene described by Mister J.

The Joker
09-02-2006, 04:57 PM
I would love to see Joker use all his nasty toys at some point in the movie. The bang/dart gun would be great to use on some henchman who didn't laugh when he was supposed to.

Joker just hates that. Nolan has a plethora of great gimmicks to use with Mr J. Use as many as you can Chris. They're all gold.

Btw, would you guys be upset if Joker didn't have his classic purple suit in the movie??

OtepApe
09-03-2006, 06:28 AM
Btw, would you guys be upset if Joker didn't have his classic purple suit in the movie??

Well, I would like to see it but as long as they got Mr J's facial appearence and hair right, I think I could live without seeing the purple suit.

Charlie No-One
09-03-2006, 09:20 AM
I think the purple suit is needed at one point. Just as long as you see it for a little bit.

The Joker
09-03-2006, 01:00 PM
Ever since he was created back in 1940, Joker's main and virtually only costume has been the purple suit. It would be criminal to leave it out IMO.


Looky at this. I really, really want this:


http://www.blister.jp/images-item-big/page-4074.jpg

Lex Luthor
09-03-2006, 01:07 PM
^^ that IS uber cool.

Charlie No-One
09-03-2006, 01:19 PM
I hope Harley makes a cameo. She could just be his servant or something...she needs to be there.

Lex Luthor
09-03-2006, 01:23 PM
I would be happy if Harley is at the very least, mentioned somewhere in The Dark Knight. A cameo would be better, yes. But I would settle for Harley just being alluded to.

Just give us something.

titan101
09-03-2006, 02:33 PM
^^ that IS uber cool.it's cooler than cool.:joker:

OtepApe
09-03-2006, 02:59 PM
I would prefer a Harleen Quinzel cameo. It doesn't have to be Harley, but I really think they could easily fit a Dr Quinzel cameo in there.

Hey Ock, who's the design by on that statue?

The Joker
09-03-2006, 03:04 PM
Hey Ock, who's the design by on that statue?

I'm not sure. I got the pic off a japanese website: http://www.blister.jp/item4074.html

So if anyone here speaks japanese, maybe they'll let us know ;) I might have a look around ebay. It might be on there.

OtepApe
09-03-2006, 03:06 PM
The actual design is nice, not a big fan of the paint job though.

The Joker
09-04-2006, 09:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJCirQoWA9I

The many laughs of the Joker

OtepApe
09-05-2006, 05:20 AM
I never thought I would watch a video of someone laughing in different ways, but with The Joker, you just gotta love it.

The Joker
09-06-2006, 04:34 PM
http://www.ueberspitzen.de/allgemeines/download/Bartman.jpg


Bwahahahahahaha :D

Bathead
09-06-2006, 05:54 PM
I have a model kit similar to that statue, the same pose, except both Joker's feet are on the ground, there's no Harley, no base and the chair is not as fancy.

The Joker
09-07-2006, 06:50 PM
I have a model kit similar to that statue, the same pose, except both Joker's feet are on the ground, there's no Harley, no base and the chair is not as fancy.

Is it the Joker sitting on a throne?? Because I saw that the other week on display in one of my comic store windows. It looked amazing.

Kraven
09-07-2006, 07:08 PM
I love the Joker, he's my favorite Bats villain :up:. I'm really looking forward to seeing him in TDK, and sooner than that, how Morrison handles his new take on the character.

Edit to show this picture:
http://images.newsarama.com/dcnew/Nov06/bat_nov/BM_Cv659_solicit.jpg

Bathead
09-07-2006, 08:43 PM
Is it the Joker sitting on a throne?? Because I saw that the other week on display in one of my comic store windows. It looked amazing.
Yes, that's it. Hollow vinyl kit made by Horizon models, no longer in business.

The Joker
09-07-2006, 08:55 PM
I love the Joker, he's my favorite Bats villain :up:. I'm really looking forward to seeing him in TDK, and sooner than that, how Morrison handles his new take on the character.

Hey tom. Welcome to the fun house, where everyone wears a smile whether they like it or not :joker: :hq:

Edit to show this picture:
http://images.newsarama.com/dcnew/Nov06/bat_nov/BM_Cv659_solicit.jpg


Yes, that looks awesome. I am dying to read this, especially after how Morrison kicked off his run by having Joker getting shot in the face.

Yes, that's it. Hollow vinyl kit made by Horizon models, no longer in business.

That's a pity, because it looked awesome. That comic store gets loads of kits in. They did this Joker bust which I got off them earlier this year:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/octopus/Jokerbust.jpg

Superman Prime
09-07-2006, 10:05 PM
I'd like to say that I think the Joker, as a villain/character in literature, has succeeded to be one of the most in-depth and believable characters in comic books. The reason I say this, is because the Joker could be interpreted as the madness each and every one of us feels sometimes.

Like when you've had a rough year, and instead of crying or being angry, you just want to start laughing hysterically. I think that is what the Joker represents: years of repressed anger/fear/anxiety, bursting out to overtake the world in darkness. He also reminds us that we have to keep our own behavior in check: and make the right choices, rather than the ones that -just- benefit us, or ones that are 'funny', but still hurtful.

There's a Joker/Harley Quinn in all of us; we just have to be reminded not to let it take over.

The Joker
09-08-2006, 09:18 AM
I'd like to say that I think the Joker, as a villain/character in literature, has succeeded to be one of the most in-depth and believable characters in comic books. The reason I say this, is because the Joker could be interpreted as the madness each and every one of us feels sometimes.

Like when you've had a rough year, and instead of crying or being angry, you just want to start laughing hysterically. I think that is what the Joker represents: years of repressed anger/fear/anxiety, bursting out to overtake the world in darkness. He also reminds us that we have to keep our own behavior in check: and make the right choices, rather than the ones that -just- benefit us, or ones that are 'funny', but still hurtful.

There's a Joker/Harley Quinn in all of us; we just have to be reminded not to let it take over.

What a wonderfully insightful post :up:

I totally agree. Some of these comic book villains are very psychologically real. That's what can be so scary about them, because there is people with their kind of psychosis everywhere.

Btw, Ledger speaks a little bit about the Joker here, who he says is going to be darker and more sinister: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=249461

Sounds good to me.

Mr. Socko
09-08-2006, 03:22 PM
Ross does some of my favorite Joker works.

Kraven
09-08-2006, 09:52 PM
They have a pretty cool looking figure based on Ross's Joker paintings.

Bathead
09-08-2006, 11:04 PM
I'd like to say that I think the Joker, as a villain/character in literature, has succeeded to be one of the most in-depth and believable characters in comic books. The reason I say this, is because the Joker could be interpreted as the madness each and every one of us feels sometimes.

Like when you've had a rough year, and instead of crying or being angry, you just want to start laughing hysterically. I think that is what the Joker represents: years of repressed anger/fear/anxiety, bursting out to overtake the world in darkness. He also reminds us that we have to keep our own behavior in check: and make the right choices, rather than the ones that -just- benefit us, or ones that are 'funny', but still hurtful.

There's a Joker/Harley Quinn in all of us; we just have to be reminded not to let it take over.

I also think this idea of "choices" is only one of the reasons Joker is such a perfect enemy for Batman. They both had that "One Bad Day", but the choices they each made on how to deal with it are polar opposites. Just like evrything else about them.

The Joker
09-09-2006, 03:59 AM
I also think this idea of "choices" is only one of the reasons Joker is such a perfect enemy for Batman. They both had that "One Bad Day", but the choices they each made on how to deal with it are polar opposites. Just like evrything else about them.

And that was the main focal point of the Killing Joke :up:

The Joker
09-11-2006, 10:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/octopus/rossjoker5tj.jpg


Just had to post this in here. I love Alex Ross' art.

Superman Prime
09-12-2006, 05:47 PM
Woaw. That IS good!

Kraven
09-12-2006, 09:06 PM
Is that from a comic, or just one of his drawings? If it's from a comic, which one?

The Joker
09-13-2006, 11:27 AM
Is that from a comic, or just one of his drawings? If it's from a comic, which one?

I think it's just one of his drawings, inspired by the Killing Joke and various other comics too I'd say.

I'd love to see something like that in the movie sequal.

The Bruce
09-13-2006, 11:46 AM
It's from Batman B&W (Volume 2)

The Joker
09-17-2006, 06:41 PM
^^^ Thank you


http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec06/DTC_Cv826_solicit.jpg


Look who's coming to Detective comics in December. The Boy blunder looks like he's in deep s*** with Mister J.

Kraven
09-17-2006, 07:06 PM
I'll be buying this one for sure. Joker was one of the things that I do remember from B:TAS, and I liked the take on the character.

Doombringer
09-18-2006, 12:36 AM
So im guessin Joker gets shot in the eye? Looks kinda bionic...

Kool-Aid
09-18-2006, 12:42 AM
^^^ Thank you


http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec06/DTC_Cv826_solicit.jpg


Look who's coming to Detective comics in December. The Boy blunder looks like he's in deep s*** with Mister J.



Holy **** that pictures funny.

Cobblepot
09-18-2006, 02:25 AM
I'm looking forward to that issue, so far Dini's run is looking better then Morrison's. But that's just my opinion. I wish Bolland would do a new Joker mini...or Breyfogle.

LEX
09-18-2006, 03:19 AM
I have been reading Joker-related Batman 1 shots as of late and I found them to be exceedingly good. The Killing Joke, The Man Who Laughs and Mad Love, to name a few. Speaking of, The Killing Joke is brilliant. At first, I didn't agree with other people about wanting Rachel Dawes to die in TDK, all for the wrong reasons, but now that I took time to think about it, how else are they going to start the bloody relationship between the Joker and Batman that will rage on for many decades to come, just like in the comics? By taking out those close to Batman. Frankly, I see no other way. Kill her off in a Joker-esque way and you would have a PO Batman on your hands, thus begins the neverending feud. I quite like Mister J's idea and I hope Nolan is smart enough not to give us an ignominious uninspired death. It's not that I don't have faith in Nolan, I do, but if the Joker doesn't have red lips, green hair, white skin or even the purple suit, I would be deeply disappointed. Purple, I could live without, but at least give him a hint of purple. One of the things I hated about Tim Burton's Joker is the frozen smile. I never liked that. And I hope to God Nolan doesn't make the same mistake. Harley should be saved for later. A cameo of Dr. Harleen Quinzel at Arkham Asylum is fine for me, but I want them to first plant the seeds of the beginning of the relationship between the Joker and Batman in TDK before introducing Harley. That is, of course, unless they kill off the character, just as they did with Burton's Joker.

One of the things I love most about the Joker is his flamboyant attitude. It's sick, twisted humour. He talks a lot. It is a MUST for TDK Joker. He needs to talk a lot. Something along line with TMWL Joker. I'd love it if the final showdown between Batman and the Joker in TDK is to be anything like in TMWL, if any.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2200/tmwlcb0.gif

Superman Prime
09-18-2006, 04:58 AM
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2200/tmwlcb0.gif

That's precious! ;)

Cobblepot
09-18-2006, 05:53 AM
But (silence)...

Boy you're really a piece of work.

Whhahahhha, and the expression on Joker's face. Priceless.
I've read TMWL but this is still funny.

LEX
09-18-2006, 06:14 AM
The panel of POOOOM is actually comical when you look at it. The Joker is being overconfident and going on about "Just how do you think you're going to stop me?" Batman pushes the button with that knowingly smirk. The viaduct explodes. A long pause and the Joker says "What did you just do?" Just that pose of his and tone, despite it being on mere paper, hit it home. I couldn't take my eyes off it the first time I read it, let along stop laughing. And the last panel with the Joker's bitter face and the clever dialogue is classic.

Cobblepot
09-18-2006, 06:20 AM
Yes I know, I was imagining the look on Joker's face and his twitching eyebrow...

It's the same storytelling they use in the movies, only here it's just...perfect.

The Joker
09-18-2006, 08:13 AM
So im guessin Joker gets shot in the eye? Looks kinda bionic...

Holy crap, I just noticed that.

Well at least he still has an eye. I wonder if it is a mechanical false eye, because as you said it does look bionic.



http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2200/tmwlcb0.gif

I love this story. Great re-telling of Batman's first encounter with the Joker. The panels at the beginning with all the smiley faced corpses was eerie.

Batman: "I think whoever did this was just practicing on them"

Cobblepot
09-18-2006, 08:35 AM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec06/DTC_Cv826_solicit.jpg

Could that be an eye prostethic or just the artists rendition?
It could be bionic it could just aswell be his gazing look.
I'm not keen on al these covers, Batman's face looks deformed a few times. Take a look at that Poison Ivy cover, his mout looks weird.

LEX
09-18-2006, 08:58 AM
I was just thinking, will they do the Joker's origin at all in TDK? He is undoubtedly going to be killing people after escaping from Arkham Asylum, but I'm worried that he won't be getting the chalk-white skin, red peeled-back lips and green hair in the usual Joker-esque way from falling into a vat of chemicals, from the looks of it, unless I missed something.

The Joker
09-18-2006, 10:53 AM
Could that be an eye prostethic or just the artists rendition?
It could be bionic it could just aswell be his gazing look.


Well look if you look at it, the eye is really wide [especially compared to his left one] and it has scars around it. Could very well be prostethic.

I was just thinking, will they do the Joker's origin at all in TDK? He is undoubtedly going to be killing people after escaping from Arkham Asylum, but I'm worried that he won't be getting the chalk-white skin, red peeled-back lips and green hair in the usual Joker-esque way from falling into a vat of chemicals, from the looks of it, unless I missed something.

Well, since he was already established as the Joker at the end of BB, his origin could only be shown in flashback. And whatever it is Batman obviously cannot be involved.

Bathead
09-18-2006, 02:00 PM
It's not a prosthetic eye, it's just reflected light from the car's instrument panel.

Cobblepot
09-18-2006, 03:11 PM
Holy #$%

http://dialbforblog.com/archives/256/bolland_Joker_sletch.gif

Superman Prime
09-18-2006, 06:12 PM
Guys. I need to know your opinion on something.

Do you think the Joker's smile should be voluntary, or part of the accident? I know it is the latter.... but sometimes I have a problem with a guy getting dumped in chemicals and coming out:

* Green Hair
* Red Lips
* White Skin

* BIG SMILE


That's a little too convenient, I think.

Kraven
09-18-2006, 06:34 PM
Holy #$%

http://dialbforblog.com/archives/256/bolland_Joker_sletch.gif

Yes, Mr. Bolland is definately one of the greatest Joker artists ever, IMO. And I think his smile should be voluntary.

Superman Prime
09-18-2006, 06:44 PM
Guys:

I meant that I had no problems with the chemicals changing his skin, hair, and lip color.

It is the smile that bugs me. How would the chemicals give him a perpetual smile?


NOTE: I'm writing a Bat-fic, and I am re-doing the origins of the Joker.

Dark Phantom
09-18-2006, 08:17 PM
Guys:

I meant that I had no problems with the chemicals changing his skin, hair, and lip color.

It is the smile that bugs me. How would the chemicals give him a perpetual smile?


NOTE: I'm writing a Bat-fic, and I am re-doing the origins of the Joker.

Think of the vat of chemicals as a complex bleach. I mean, have you ever read the side-effects for certain prescription medicines or the dangerous effects of common house hold chemicals? They have different effects on different parts of the body. The specific chemical that the Joker fell into had different effects on the hair and face. It does sound too convenient, but this is why Joker views life as one big joke. Because he resembles a clown in such of a bizzare twist of events, it so uncomprehendable it's funny. Its like God has personally went out to make Joker's life a living joke.

anyhoo, about the smile. I see it as the chemicals drying out the mucus membrane in the lips and stretching it back. Believe me, this makes sense. I use those stridex pads for acne trouble and they have peroxide which can bleach your hair and dry out your skin. it specifically says to avoid your lips or other mucus membranes. Think of Joker's chemicals as going to the extreme and actually strecthing out the lips.

Superman Prime
09-18-2006, 08:38 PM
Think of the vat of chemicals as a complex bleach. I mean, have you ever read the side-effects for certain prescription medicines or the dangerous effects of common house hold chemicals? They have different effects on different parts of the body. The specific chemical that the Joker fell into had different effects on the hair and face. It does sound too convenient, but this is why Joker views life as one big joke. Because he resembles a clown in such of a bizzare twist of events, it so uncomprehendable it's funny. Its like God has personally went out to make Joker's life a living joke.

anyhoo, about the smile. I see it as the chemicals drying out the mucus membrane in the lips and stretching it back. Believe me, this makes sense. I use those stridex pads for acne trouble and they have peroxide which can bleach your hair and dry out your skin. it specifically says to avoid your lips or other mucus membranes. Think of Joker's chemicals as going to the extreme and actually strecthing out the lips.


That makes sense. Thank you. *thumbs up*

Bathead
09-18-2006, 08:52 PM
Well, since he was already established as the Joker at the end of BB, his origin could only be shown in flashback. And whatever it is Batman obviously cannot be involved.
There is nothing in that scene with Gordon that DEFINITIVELY shows that he is already the Joker. Nothing about a guy that looks like a clown. All Gordon says is the the perp has a taste for the theatrical like Batman. That could apply to the Red Hood as easily as the Joker. (black tuxedo, bright red cape with a bright red eyeless hood). Also, from what I understand, a Joker card (sometimes the Ace of Spades) is a warning left behind by the mob at a hit as a warning to others.

DJ Kornphlake
09-18-2006, 11:16 PM
http://batinthesun.com/gallery/Joker%27s%20purple%20hat.jpg


What artist did this one?

:wow:

Superman Prime
09-19-2006, 04:31 AM
It's complete overkill anyway. Don't worry about it.

EDIT: I am familiar with the Joker in the above pic; no one's nose is that big. I am sorry.

Cobblepot
09-19-2006, 06:51 AM
Yes that nose bothers me too. He looks more like Penguin.

The Joker
09-19-2006, 08:03 AM
Holy #$%

http://dialbforblog.com/archives/256/bolland_Joker_sletch.gif

Nice. Bolland rocks. I hear he's doing another upcoming Joker story too. I think it's his origin in the 52 series.

There is nothing in that scene with Gordon that DEFINITIVELY shows that he is already the Joker. Nothing about a guy that looks like a clown. All Gordon says is the the perp has a taste for the theatrical like Batman. That could apply to the Red Hood as easily as the Joker. (black tuxedo, bright red cape with a bright red eyeless hood). Also, from what I understand, a Joker card (sometimes the Ace of Spades) is a warning left behind by the mob at a hit as a warning to others.

I think you're reaching a bit there dude.

Too many coincidences. He's into armed robbery and murder, has a taste for the theatrical, and leaves a Joker card at the scene of his crimes, and yet he's not become the Joker yet??

Doesn't sound right to me at all.

Cobblepot
09-19-2006, 08:16 AM
Can anyone confirm that Bolland is doing an issh of 52 about The Joker?

Cobblepot
09-19-2006, 01:00 PM
I still hope that Nolan presents us with a Joker like this:
http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/websize/ce_joker.jpg

Bathead
09-19-2006, 01:18 PM
I think you're reaching a bit there dude.

Too many coincidences. He's into armed robbery and murder, has a taste for the theatrical, and leaves a Joker card at the scene of his crimes, and yet he's not become the Joker yet??

Doesn't sound right to me at all.
I think it's reaching to assume he's already become Joker on such flimsy "evidence".
Into armed robbery and murder?
So was Red Hood.
Has a taste for the theatrical?
So does Red Hood.
Leaves a Joker card at the crime scene?
As I said in my post, there is historical precedence for leaving a Joker card at the scene of a mob hit as a warning to others not to screw with the mob. Red Hood could be a member of the mob.
Even taking all three of those things into account together does not prove that he has been Jokerized yet. I have just shown that I could take that same evidence and "prove" that it was the Red Hood.
I'm not reaching at all.

Bathead
09-19-2006, 01:28 PM
As far as the perma-smile goes, if you check out Joker's first appearance in Batman #1, you can see that a permanent smile was not a part of the character's original design. Although a permanent grin is actually medically possible, it's not all that necessary to the character. He just needs to grin ... A LOT.

Cobblepot
09-19-2006, 01:44 PM
Hey guys check out my avatar (Thanks to Mr. Lex Luthor)!

The timing in the book is better, funnier. But heh...

Superman Prime
09-19-2006, 06:07 PM
As far as the perma-smile goes, if you check out Joker's first appearance in Batman #1, you can see that a permanent smile was not a part of the character's original design. Although a permanent grin is actually medically possible, it's not all that necessary to the character. He just needs to grin ... A LOT.

Was the Joker's smile in The Killing Joke permanent? It didn't look like it.



nice one, Cobblepot!!

The Joker
09-19-2006, 08:31 PM
I think it's reaching to assume he's already become Joker on such flimsy "evidence".
Into armed robbery and murder?
So was Red Hood.

But the Joker was only the Red Hood once. And he didn't kill anyone in that robbery.

Has a taste for the theatrical?
So does Red Hood.

True. But as I said above, if Nolan is following the comics as closely as he has been, then it wont be the Joker.

Leaves a Joker card at the crime scene?
As I said in my post, there is historical precedence for leaving a Joker card at the scene of a mob hit as a warning to others not to screw with the mob. Red Hood could be a member of the mob.

When did they leave a Joker card at the crime scenes??

Also I might believe that if Gordon had referred to him as "This gang" instead of "This guy". Suggesting Joker is a one man act.

Even taking all three of those things into account together does not prove that he has been Jokerized yet.

Nothing has been proven. But it's highly likely he is already the Joker.

Hey guys check out my avatar (Thanks to Mr. Lex Luthor)!

The timing in the book is better, funnier. But heh...

I love that scene in The Man who Laughs.

Sweet avvy dude :up: :joker:

Bathead
09-19-2006, 08:59 PM
But the Joker was only the Red Hood once. And he didn't kill anyone in that robbery.



True. But as I said above, if Nolan is following the comics as closely as he has been, then it wont be the Joker.



When did they leave a Joker card at the crime scenes??

Also I might believe that if Gordon had referred to him as "This gang" instead of "This guy". Suggesting Joker is a one man act.



Nothing has been proven. But it's highly likely he is already the Joker.
How do we know Red Hood has only committed the one crime? The Red Hood story in the comics, pre-Killing Joke told of a number of crimes comitted by the Red Hood gang.
To clarify further, you've misread me. In my post where I stated that the mob leaves behind Joker cards at hits, I'm talking about real life, NOT THE MOVIE. My point is that he doesn't have to be the Joker to leave behind a Joker card, It's been done before by REAL-LIFE mobsters! It could be that the Red Hood is an independent crook who occasionally does hits for the mob, leaving behind Joker cards as a warning. Or not. That scenario is just as likely as the one that he is already the Joker, based on the same so-called evidence. But, as even you said, NOTHING IS PROVEN. Is He the Joker already? Possibly, yes. Highly likely? I don't think so.

Superman Prime
09-19-2006, 11:36 PM
Is it alright if when I'm done, I post my Joker origins story within this thread?

Granted the story will not be very long. Maybe a thousand words at most. That is, until I get someone to do the art for me. And then I will expand on the story, dialogue, etc.

Cobblepot
09-20-2006, 01:15 AM
In The Killing Joke, The Red Hood is another crook every other scheme. If I remember correct.

Bathead
09-20-2006, 01:10 PM
In The Killing Joke, The Red Hood is another crook every other scheme. If I remember correct.
Maybe.
Remember there is nothing definite about Joker's memories in that story.
(Not sure if this quote is exact, but ...)
According to Joker himself --
"If I am to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice."

Cobblepot
09-21-2006, 01:54 PM
Did anyone manage to buy this:

http://www.superherotimes.com/news/images/JLA.Ross.joker.af.all-01.jpg

Cobblepot
09-21-2006, 01:55 PM
http://www.cartoondepot.com/pages/img/wb/pc/RC1735%20Joker.jpg

http://www.cartoondepot.com/pages/img/wb/pc/RC1736%20Joker.jpg

How'd u like them appels!

LEX
09-21-2006, 01:58 PM
I never liked the bottom version of the Joker.

The Joker
09-21-2006, 03:51 PM
Did anyone manage to buy this:

http://www.superherotimes.com/news/images/JLA.Ross.joker.af.all-01.jpg

Yep, I did. Bought him last month actually. He's awesome. Though I had trouble getting him to hold his cane.

I'm having an awful time trying to find a Hush Harley Quinn figure. I have the Joker one, I just can't find Harley. I've tried everywhere, including ebay. She's a tough little minx to find.

I never liked the bottom version of the Joker.

Me too.

I miss the red lips, and his eyes are too blank.

ghost113
09-21-2006, 04:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJCirQoWA9I

The many laughs of the Joker

I loved it very nice.

Superman Prime
09-21-2006, 07:19 PM
Someone answer my damn question. Please

Kthx.

Kraven
09-21-2006, 10:07 PM
Was the Joker's smile in The Killing Joke permanent? It didn't look like it.
No, it wasn't. I recall specific times when he's frowning. For example, when he is explaining how sad sanity is when Gordon is in the cage towards the end, or when Gordon exits the ride and the Joker says, "God, What a deadweight!" or something to that extent.

And yea, of course it's o.k. if you post your Joker origin story in here. What's it about?

The Joker
09-21-2006, 10:39 PM
Someone answer my damn question. Please


Whoa, keep your shirt on or I'll set the hyenas on you :joker: ;)

What was your question?? Is it the one tom answered there for you??

Carmine Falcone
09-22-2006, 09:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJCirQoWA9I

The many laughs of the Joker

Great video!

BTW: Why didn't I see this thread before? :(

Carmine Falcone
09-22-2006, 09:35 AM
I'll post some pics of one of my favorite versions of the Joker:

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/17.jpg

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/36.jpg

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/78.jpg

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/113.jpg

Cobblepot
09-22-2006, 09:46 AM
nice caps.
The Joker in ROTJ is the best out of the TAS versions.

Bathead
09-22-2006, 10:54 AM
nice caps.
The Joker in ROTJ is the best out of the TAS versions.
I agree. The look, not so much, I prefer his traditional look, but he was deliciously evil in that.

Carmine Falcone
09-22-2006, 11:15 AM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9003/jokerhoofdencc2.jpg

Kool-Aid
09-22-2006, 11:16 AM
Did anyone manage to buy this:

http://www.superherotimes.com/news/images/JLA.Ross.joker.af.all-01.jpg



I almost did, then I said **** it. I don't collect toys, but I almost bought that.

Kool-Aid
09-22-2006, 11:18 AM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9003/jokerhoofdencc2.jpg



Thats really cool. Brian draws the best Joker ever.

Carmine Falcone
09-22-2006, 11:19 AM
Agreed. :up:

ghost113
09-22-2006, 03:43 PM
I'll post some pics of one of my favorite versions of the Joker:

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/17.jpg

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/78.jpg

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/113.jpg

I love these pics and Lustice league unlimited joker is the best animated joker look wise.

Carmine Falcone
09-23-2006, 03:35 AM
Something I did:

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/Facone_Snoek/Joker_compliatie.jpg

First Row:
Cesar Romero - Batman
Jack Nicholson - Batman 1989
Mark Hamill - Batman The Animated Series
Mark Hamill - Batman Betond: Return of the Joker
Mark Hamill - The New Batman Adventures

Second Row:
Kevin Michael Richardson - The Batman
Dave McKean - Arkham Asylum
Dick Sprang - Cover to Batman#23
Jim Aparo - A Death in the Family
Mike Mignola - Cover to A Death in the Family

Third Row:
Frank Miller - The Dark Knight Returns
Neal Adams - The Joker's Five Way Revenge
Bob Kane - Batman v.s the Joker (Batman#1-1940)
Mike Mignola - Batman/Hellboy/Starman
Jim Lee - Hush

Fourth Row:
Doug Mahnke _The Man who Laughs
Brian Bolland - The Killing Joke
Tim Sale - The Long Halloween
Alex Ross - Batman: Harley Quinn

Cobblepot
09-23-2006, 04:43 AM
That Mignola Joker is from Hellboy/Starman.
Alex Ross is the cover from a one-shot Batman: Harley Quinn, it introduced her into the Batman Universe outside TAS.
Out of all these Joker's I really dislike Lee's, he's just to weird.
And I hated those strange shoes he wore.

Carmine Falcone
09-23-2006, 04:49 AM
Thanks. I edited it.

I love the Bob Kane Joker.

Superman Prime
09-23-2006, 06:22 AM
No, it wasn't. I recall specific times when he's frowning. For example, when he is explaining how sad sanity is when Gordon is in the cage towards the end, or when Gordon exits the ride and the Joker says, "God, What a deadweight!" or something to that extent.

Thanks.

I looked back into the book (TKJ) after digging it up from a pile of papers, and you are right. He does frown on several occasions, as I suspected/remembered.

And yea, of course it's o.k. if you post your Joker origin story in here. What's it about?

Well, mainly in this version, the Joker went completely insane LONG before actually becoming Batman's main foil.

It will borrow a certain unique fact (you can guess it, if you think hard enough,) that was exclusive to Burton's 89 Batman movie.

Don't want to give too much away, though. Still need that certain shock value. It will be finished in three days.

Superman Prime
09-23-2006, 06:26 AM
Whoa, keep your shirt on or I'll set the hyenas on you :joker: ;)

What was your question?? Is it the one tom answered there for you??

Sorry. Just didn't want to post the origins story and get reprimanded for it.

Yeah, Tom answered it.

Thanks guys.

The Joker
09-23-2006, 07:14 AM
Something I did:

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/Facone_Snoek/Joker_compliatie.jpg

First Row:
Cesar Romero - Batman
Jack Nicholson - Batman 1989
Mark Hamill - Batman The Animated Series
Mark Hamill - Batman Betond: Return of the Joker
Mark Hamill - The New Batman Adventures

Second Row:
Kevin Michael Richardson - The Batman
Dave McKean - Arkham Asylum
Dick Sprang - Cover to Batman#23
Jim Aparo - A Death in the Family
Mike Mignola - Cover to A Death in the Family

Third Row:
Frank Miller - The Dark Knight Returns
Neal Adams - The Joker's Five Way Revenge
Bob Kane - Batman v.s the Joker (Batman#1-1940)
Mike Mignola - Batman/Hellboy/Starman
Jim Lee - Hush

Fourth Row:
Doug Mahnke _The Man who Laughs
Brian Bolland - The Killing Joke
Tim Sale - The Long Halloween
Alex Ross - Batman: Harley Quinn

HOLY COW!!!

That is just too awesome for words :wow: :wow: You rock Carmine. Seriously. *Right clicks and saves*

Sorry. Just didn't want to post the origins story and get reprimanded for it.

Yeah, Tom answered it.

Thanks guys.

Ah ok.

Sorry, I must have missed your question, otherwise I would have answered it post haste.

ghost113
09-23-2006, 01:05 PM
very cool collage.

Carmine Falcone
09-23-2006, 02:03 PM
Thanks guys :) :up:

Cobblepot
09-24-2006, 03:53 AM
I found this site about the various Joker's.

http://www.jokerfanpage.mynetcologne.de/bilder.htm

Carmine Falcone
09-24-2006, 03:59 AM
Great pic of Sale's Joker

BTW: Did Matt Wagner ever draw Joker?

Cobblepot
09-24-2006, 04:20 AM
Only this cover I think:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6194/robinii1holodwl2.jpg

Carmine Falcone
09-24-2006, 04:27 AM
Very nice :up:

Cobblepot
09-24-2006, 04:45 AM
Yeah I like that one too, he only did the cover.
Maybe we'll see some Joker goodness by him in the future.

Cobblepot
09-24-2006, 04:47 AM
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2145/batmansecrets11024x768av6.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmansecrets11024x768av6.jpg)

Carmine Falcone
09-24-2006, 04:56 AM
Maybe we'll see some Joker goodness by him in the future.

I hope so. Wagner has a really nice style.

The Joker
09-24-2006, 03:26 PM
Only this cover I think:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6194/robinii1holodwl2.jpg

I have that mini. It's pretty cool. Robin [Tim Drake] has to face the Joker on his own for the first time. Batman is out of town, and the Joker has Gotham at his mercy.

Great story.

Btw Carmine, your avvy rocks. I love Sale's rendition of Joker.

Cobblepot
09-25-2006, 03:40 AM
That mini is a pain in the ass. It has so many variant covers, it drove me mad.

Carmine Falcone
09-25-2006, 06:48 AM
This thread should have been called the Joker's ha-hacienda. ;)

The Joker
09-25-2006, 08:52 AM
This thread should have been called the Joker's ha-hacienda. ;)

It still can be. I could ask a MOD to change it for me.

What do you guys think?? Does 'The Joker's ha-hacienda' sound like a better name for this thread??

Cobblepot
09-25-2006, 09:10 AM
Put me up for it.

Cobblepot
09-25-2006, 01:52 PM
I see you had it changed.

Cobblepot
09-25-2006, 01:54 PM
BTW:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joker


http://moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/46.html

The Joker
09-25-2006, 02:10 PM
I see you had it changed.

I did.

I must admit it looks better. Cheers for the suggestion Carmine.

BTW:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joker


http://moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/46.html

I really like the moviepoopshoot link.

Joker actually grieved for the Penguin's death. Wow! "I....was fond of the little fowl!"

Cobblepot
09-25-2006, 02:43 PM
BRAVE AND THE BOLD #191, must find it now...

Carmine Falcone
09-25-2006, 03:07 PM
I did.
Cheers for the suggestion Carmine.


:up: It's one of those puns that balances the fine line between brilliant and awful :p

http://moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/jokersbirthday.jpg

I love it ^

Cobblepot
09-25-2006, 03:11 PM
Joker always was (is) a good recipe for a great comic.

Rynan
09-25-2006, 05:44 PM
What? A Joker topic and no first issue? Shame.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Comics/Jokerintro3.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8846/jokerintro8xo9.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/293/jokerlaughsz2.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3695/jokerclown3nz3.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2497/jokerfacezf2.jpg



Oh, don't forget...



The Joker Mobile!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Jokermobile.jpg
The greatest villain transport ever! Even Luthor digs that sweet ride.

The Joker
09-25-2006, 07:04 PM
http://moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/jokersbirthday.jpg

I love it ^

One of the greatest Joker covers ever [and stories too]. Anyone else read it?? It's in the greatest Joker stories ever told TPB.

What? A Joker topic and no first issue? Shame.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Comics/Jokerintro3.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8846/jokerintro8xo9.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/293/jokerlaughsz2.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3695/jokerclown3nz3.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2497/jokerfacezf2.jpg

Sweet pics. And all heavy influences for the Joker in the new movie according to sources. I'm guessing his murder with smiles is something they're going to take from that story.

Notice how easily Joker whupped Batman the first time they faced off. Don't see that very often.

Oh, don't forget...



The Joker Mobile!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Jokermobile.jpg
The greatest villain transport ever! Even Luthor digs that sweet ride.

LOL!

They even put that in the BTAS, in the episode called Joker's Wild. Though I think it may be a bit too campy for a movie.

Bathead
09-25-2006, 09:31 PM
That second panel with the Joker laughing becuase he's just stabbed himself, that's from his second (and originally last) appearance? Now that's definitely a looney. I love it.

MiracloFiend
09-26-2006, 08:11 AM
"Ha Ha Laugh Clown Laugh Ha Ha..."

Rynan
09-26-2006, 10:14 AM
That second panel with the Joker laughing becuase he's just stabbed himself, that's from his second (and originally last) appearance? Now that's definitely a looney. I love it.

I wonder...

If they should include that in the movie. It would catch people off guard thinking that they once again "Killed" The Joker, only to find out, even after he stabbed himself, he is still alive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Comics/jokerintro7.jpg

Carmine Falcone
09-26-2006, 10:17 AM
I wonder...

If they should include that in the movie. It would catch people off guard thinking that they once again "Killed" The Joker, only to find out, even after he stabbed himself, he is still alive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Comics/jokerintro7.jpg

Yeah. Like that scene in Silence of the Lambs.

Cobblepot
09-26-2006, 10:46 AM
http://www.batleman.org/images/Joker.jpg

Rynan
09-26-2006, 10:50 AM
Hey, does anyone know how to edit pics on wikipedia, cus I want to put this image for The Joker's page there.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2497/jokerfacezf2.jpg

Can someone please help me with this?

Bathead
09-26-2006, 05:40 PM
I wonder...

If they should include that in the movie. It would catch people off guard thinking that they once again "Killed" The Joker, only to find out, even after he stabbed himself, he is still alive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Comics/jokerintro7.jpg
Could be cool. I could see the last scene, as they put the apparently dead bodyt of the Joker in the coroner's van, after they close the door, the camera zooms in on the covered body, you see the hand twitch, cut to the van leaving, and you hear maniacal laughter as the van disappears in to the darkness.
THE END.

Bathead
09-26-2006, 05:45 PM
I wonder...

If they should include that in the movie. It would catch people off guard thinking that they once again "Killed" The Joker, only to find out, even after he stabbed himself, he is still alive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Comics/jokerintro7.jpg
I can imagine them loading the apparently dead body of the Joker into the coroner's van, cut to the van's interior, closeup on his hand, which twitches, cut to the van pulling away, and as it disappears into the darkness, you hear maniacal laughter.
THE END

Something like that.

Cobblepot
09-27-2006, 03:03 AM
Sounds great to me!

Bathead
09-27-2006, 07:40 AM
Or --
Same scene basically, except the van pulls away into the darkness, fade to black
THE END
THEN cue Maniacal Laughter (tm), then roll credits. Which do you think is better?

Cobblepot
09-27-2006, 07:52 AM
Your last option, it's more theatrical.

I'm really anxious to see the look of the Joker in TDK, meybe some of the manips came really close.

The Joker
10-02-2006, 10:25 PM
Anyone have any fav Joker moments from the comics?? I know he has so many great ones, but what are your personal favs??

Cobblepot
10-03-2006, 02:58 AM
I'm not sure there's so many.
I like the scene in The Man Who Laughs and his "origin" in The Killing Joke.
The Animated comics nailed him brilliantly aswell, almost in every book.
I also like Grant & Breyfogle's little Joker story in their Batman run.
I can't really pick one moment...

Kraven
10-03-2006, 09:28 PM
I really liked his lines in TKJ as well as his scene with Batman at the end. Or in Hush, when he is being beaten down and says:
"Stop..... Stop.... Stop me... if you've heard this one before."

The Joker
10-04-2006, 01:04 PM
Ok, a few of my favorites:

-Batman confronting Joker at the end of the Man who Laughs, and Joker is outraged that Batman had the nerve to ruin his scheme of killing the entire city.
-Shooting Barbara Gordon, and then comparing her to a library book.
-Batman trying to reason with Joker, and offer him help at the end of the Killing Joke.
-Bashing Jason Todd with a crowbar, then saying "My that was fun. Kinda messy though" :joker:
-Shooting Sarah Essen in the head at point blank range.

Carmine Falcone
10-04-2006, 03:12 PM
Ok, a few of my favorites:
-Shooting Barbara Gordon, and then comparing her to a library book.


That is such an Alan Moore moment. Very good. :up:

Superman Prime
10-09-2006, 06:33 PM
Writer's block resulted in me not being finished with my new Joker origin. I apologize... and in turn, I present you with these classic Joker moments from Batman89. Heath Ledger says he himself will be even more dark and sinister in his version of the Joker...


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/siriussnape_/segment2.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/siriussnape_/segment1.jpg

ghost113
10-09-2006, 09:35 PM
those scenes were pretty cool i don't remember him shocking or electrocuting that guy to death though

The Joker
10-10-2006, 08:51 AM
Ledger has some big shoes to fill after Jack Nicholson's turn as Joker.

He freakin' rocked.

Batman*
10-10-2006, 06:17 PM
Yeah Jack was great, though my personal favorite was Mark Hamill

Some of my favorite Joker pics

http://tinyrevolution.com/mt-static/images/joker.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3d/JokercolorLG.jpg/225px-JokercolorLG.jpg

http://img.search.com/5/53/300px-Jokerkillingjoke.png

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/joker/08.jpg

And my favorite Heath Ledger manip

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8044/21njgusrv5.jpg

And just to add, I hope in The Dark Knight The Joker's grin is voulentary, I once thought the premise of a man with a hideous grin permanantly formed in his lips was creepier.

But if you think about it more, the idea that a man can kill an inoccent woman, break into her husbands house disable his daughter, kidnap her father show him pictures of her body whilst trying to drive him insane, kidnap a woman beat her son halfway to death and then kill both him and his mother at the same time and then come out of all of it still voulentarily grinning and genuanly finding it all funny is a hell of a lot creepier that the permanant grin idea.

Kraven
10-10-2006, 07:01 PM
Yea, I agree. I don't know if Heath can outdo Jack... he was my highlight for Batman 89.

Bathead
10-11-2006, 01:23 AM
I don't know where, other than Burton's movie (or even from Conrad Veidt's movie), anyone got the idea that Joker's smile was permanent. Unless my memory fails me, I don't recall it ever being portrayed that way in the comics.

Superman Prime
10-11-2006, 03:37 AM
http://tinyrevolution.com/mt-static/images/joker.jpg

That looks so absolutely creepy.

I'm curious myself:


Someone track down where the idea of a permanent smile originated, so we can see just how far it goes back, if very far at all.

Cobblepot
10-11-2006, 04:10 AM
It's up to anyones imagination really.
Some artist depict him with a permanent smile (Jim Aparo did en Tim Sale does) and some don't (Brian Bolland, Neal Adams). But he is smiling constantly and even if he is pouting he's still grinning.

ghost113
10-11-2006, 05:48 AM
that jack pic of the joker is so very creepy, NICE

Cobblepot
10-15-2006, 05:02 AM
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4499/thekillingjokeyg0.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thekillingjokeyg0.jpg)

Cobblepot
10-15-2006, 05:26 AM
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1284/themanwholaughsos4.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=themanwholaughsos4.jpg)

Superman Prime
10-17-2006, 12:59 PM
Old age is going to treat the Joker terribly. Think how much he smiles... all the wrinkles that will create. Plus the furrowed brow he usually has.

The Joker
10-20-2006, 11:07 AM
The Joker will never get old. He'll come back in a different body like he did in Batman Beyond :cwink:

ghost113
10-20-2006, 04:09 PM
or he'll die.

Kraven
10-20-2006, 04:15 PM
Preview art for the Dectective issue with the Joker in December:
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Detective/presscon/dini_didio.html

ghost113
10-20-2006, 04:22 PM
sweet previews that was tim drake right.

Kraven
10-20-2006, 04:45 PM
Yeah, Tim Drake is the current Robin.

The Joker
10-20-2006, 05:14 PM
Preview art for the Dectective issue with the Joker in December:
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Detective/presscon/dini_didio.html

LOL! That looks great. Did you see the Joker run over some poor pedestrian??

Nasty :joker:

Bathead
10-20-2006, 09:20 PM
Yeah Jack was great, though my personal favorite was Mark Hamill

Some of my favorite Joker pics

http://tinyrevolution.com/mt-static/images/joker.jpg

Never noticed this in this pic before. See how the white makeup is rubbing off on his collar? Wow! Pretty sloppy quality control there! It's been so long since I've seen the movie, I wonder if it's like that in the film. Anybody know?

ghost113
10-20-2006, 09:57 PM
wow, what a mistake

Kraven
10-20-2006, 10:38 PM
No, it was quite a bit sharper in the actual film.

LOL! That looks great. Did you see the Joker run over some poor pedestrian??

Nasty :joker:

Oh yea that was sweet. I can't wait to read this issue, I've heard great things about Paul Dini's run, and I did like BTAS, so this should be good. Wonder what he has in store for Harley Quinn, also.

Cobblepot
10-23-2006, 04:39 AM
Never noticed this in this pic before. See how the white makeup is rubbing off on his collar? Wow! Pretty sloppy quality control there! It's been so long since I've seen the movie, I wonder if it's like that in the film. Anybody know?

You can see it clearly in the first Joker scene where he shoots Grissom.

The Joker
10-23-2006, 10:21 AM
You can see it clearly in the first Joker scene where he shoots Grissom.

Really?? I never noticed it.

I'm looking thru pics of him from the movie, and I don't see any signs of the make up rubbing off his collar.

That photo above is a publicity pic. Maybe it was just a one off.

Red
10-23-2006, 10:23 AM
I never noticed that, lol.






Oh and my contribution to the thread is below.

Cobblepot
10-23-2006, 10:24 AM
Go watch that seen, you'll see...

Kraven
10-23-2006, 09:06 PM
So I watched ROTJ the other day, and it was wickedly awesome. I haven't seen it for quite a while, and hopefully my new avy will be from that movie. End rant.

The Joker
10-24-2006, 08:31 AM
ROTJ is wicked awesome.

I think my fav part is the flashback to the past, where we see what the Joker did to Robin. An especially eerie bit is when Batman and Batgirl are moving thru the wrecked halls of Arkham, and you hear Harley's voice echoing thru the halls singing 'Hush little baby don't say a word'.

Loved that bit :hq:

Boom
10-24-2006, 12:29 PM
"What's the matter, Batman? No witty comeback? No threat? Then I'll provide the narration. I'll begin with how I peeled back the layers of the boy's mind. Though he bravely tried to fight it at first. You would've been proud to see him so strong. But all too soon the serums and the shocks took their toll, and the dear lad began to share such secrets with me. Secrets that are mine alone to know, Bruce. It's true, Batsy. I know everything. And kinda like the kid who peaks at his Christmas presents, I must admit it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the stern and batarangs, you're just a little boy in a play-suit crying for mommy and daddy. It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Ah what the heck I'll laugh anyway!"

Carmine Falcone
10-24-2006, 12:39 PM
I'll begin with how I peeled back the layers of the boy's mind.

That line seriously disturbs me. Maybe I should get the unrated version to.

Rynan
10-24-2006, 02:58 PM
ROTJ is wicked awesome.

I think my fav part is the flashback to the past, where we see what the Joker did to Robin.


Joker Jr. was creepy as hell. He was an infinately better way to attack Batman than the infamous "Jason Todd and a Crowbar" bit.

Instead of killing Robin, The Joker assimilated him.

Superman Prime
10-24-2006, 03:10 PM
"What's the matter, Batman? No witty comeback? No threat? Then I'll provide the narration. I'll begin with how I peeled back the layers of the boy's mind. Though he bravely tried to fight it at first. You would've been proud to see him so strong. But all too soon the serums and the shocks took their toll, and the dear lad began to share such secrets with me. Secrets that are mine alone to know, Bruce. It's true, Batsy. I know everything. And kinda like the kid who peaks at his Christmas presents, I must admit it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the stern and batarangs, you're just a little boy in a play-suit crying for mommy and daddy. It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Ah what the heck I'll laugh anyway!"

I love that part! :woot:

The Joker
10-24-2006, 04:30 PM
"What's the matter, Batman? No witty comeback? No threat? Then I'll provide the narration. I'll begin with how I peeled back the layers of the boy's mind. Though he bravely tried to fight it at first. You would've been proud to see him so strong. But all too soon the serums and the shocks took their toll, and the dear lad began to share such secrets with me. Secrets that are mine alone to know, Bruce. It's true, Batsy. I know everything. And kinda like the kid who peaks at his Christmas presents, I must admit it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the stern and batarangs, you're just a little boy in a play-suit crying for mommy and daddy. It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Ah what the heck I'll laugh anyway!"

Excellent narration indeed :up: :joker:

The last couple of lines are the best. Pure Joker.

Joker Jr. was creepy as hell. He was an infinately better way to attack Batman than the infamous "Jason Todd and a Crowbar" bit.

"We couldn't adopt legally, then we remembered you always had a few spare kids hanging around. So we borrowed one. He needed a little moulding at first. What kid doesn't?? But soon, we came to love him as our own. Say hello J.J."

Instead of killing Robin, The Joker assimilated him.

Heh, you make him sound like the Borg :D

Superman Prime
10-24-2006, 04:36 PM
There are things far worse than death. For instance, the Joker taking Robin, and instead of killing him, corrupting him.

Yep. :)

Rynan
10-24-2006, 05:01 PM
There are things far worse than death. For instance, the Joker taking Robin, and instead of killing him, corrupting him.

Yep. :)

Robin was Batman's son. The Joker took Robin and made him into his son. Considering the emotional scarring for Tim, Bruce and Barbra, it was an outcome far, far worse than death.

And a lasting testiment to The Joker insane genius...

Kraven
10-24-2006, 06:02 PM
That scene is my favorite also. The Joker was really badass in that movie, good twist at the end with Tim Drake too. You could tell Batman was ready to kill him that time, like when he threw the knife at his head and Joker ducked and rode off. The Joker in the flashback was my favorite looking Joker in all of the Batman Animated Series versions.

Boom
10-24-2006, 06:14 PM
I agree. That should've been how The Joker looked throughout the New Batman Adventures series.

Kraven
10-24-2006, 06:26 PM
Speaking of that scene, you can find it divided between these two parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q_VCla-7xo&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atP3XVBGnQA&mode=related&search=

Kraven
10-26-2006, 08:51 PM
I can't wait for the issues featuring the Joker in upcoming comics... but with the delay just happening on Batman, do you think the Joker issue will be pushed back by much too? Either way, I really like how A.K. has drawn him.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2639/jokerbatman1su9.jpg

The Joker
10-27-2006, 10:48 AM
Speaking of that scene, you can find it divided between these two parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q_VCla-7xo&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atP3XVBGnQA&mode=related&search=

Greatness :up:

"Hahahahaha a bird in the hand...."

I can't wait for the issues featuring the Joker in upcoming comics... but with the delay just happening on Batman, do you think the Joker issue will be pushed back by much too? Either way, I really like how A.K. has drawn him.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2639/jokerbatman1su9.jpg

One of my fav Joker images. Too cool.

And what is this talk of delays?? I thought only 'All star Batman and Robin' was delayed.

Kraven
10-27-2006, 03:22 PM
And what is this talk of delays?? I thought only 'All star Batman and Robin' was delayed.

Well ASB&R certainly is delayed to a much greater extent, but Batman usually comes out on the last week of the month (since #655). Batman #658 should've come out this week, but it's been pushed back to November 8th. Not nearly as bad as the "1 issue per year" delay ASB&R has had, but still makes me wonder how much the next issue will be delayed. Incidentally, 659 is the issue that I've been anticipating most in the Batman title so far.

Kool-Aid
10-28-2006, 01:32 AM
Nice thread. Props Ock.

superman05
10-31-2006, 06:10 AM
My Joker Costume
I was escaped convict Joker on Friday. Tomorrow I'll wear the whole purple getup. I needed a break because I did the Mark Hamill Joker voice and laugh for a while and lost my voice. I was in character for four hours, skipping around accosting people, especially those dressed as Batman characters. Hopefully the pictures below do my costume justice.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1147.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1146.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1145.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker-2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker2-1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1169.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1154.jpg

superman05
10-31-2006, 06:10 AM
More pics:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1186.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1164.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1171.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1172.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/IMGP1189.jpg

The Joker
10-31-2006, 08:49 AM
Dude, that is awesome :wow: You even coloured your fingernails. All you need now is Harley Quinn by your side, and you're set :joker: :hq: Please show us some pics of you in the purple suit if you can.

Your mate Spidey, has a pretty cool costume too.

El Payaso
10-31-2006, 11:26 AM
I don't know where, other than Burton's movie (or even from Conrad Veidt's movie), anyone got the idea that Joker's smile was permanent. Unless my memory fails me, I don't recall it ever being portrayed that way in the comics.

Conrad Veidt's movie.

Kool-Aid
10-31-2006, 12:55 PM
I want a Batman shirt like that kids.

Rynan
11-04-2006, 10:12 AM
Conrad Veidt's movie.

Nah, I think he got it from Cesar Romero.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/Joker%20taunt/joker-stress.jpghttp://www.dfi.dk/dfi/undervisning/fatomfilm/grafik/joker.jpg

superman05
11-04-2006, 11:21 AM
More Halloween pics, with some of the rest of the rogues gallery:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker2-2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker3-1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker4.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker5.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker6.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker7-1.jpg

Thanks for the comments, guys. I appreciate it.

The Joker
11-04-2006, 12:12 PM
Those costumes rock :up:

You look great in the purple duds dude. And tell your mate that his Two Face make up looks really cool. Complete with bleached hair and a coin.

Did Pengy have a brolly?? I don't see one in the pics.

superman05
11-04-2006, 01:07 PM
Thanks man. Unfortunately, penguin did not have an umbrella because the sheriffs were out on full force halloween night and were confiscating anything that could be used as a weapon, so we opted to not unleash the brolly. We posed with one at home though, seen here:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker8.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/prayingmantis05/joker9.jpg

:batty: :bat: :joker:

superman05
11-04-2006, 01:07 PM
:batty: :bat: :joker:

Kraven
11-04-2006, 03:35 PM
Thought I'd post this here, it's an avy I made. (with the help of a program that OctoHaz mentioned in the Spidey forum) It's my first one, and it turned out better than I expected. Especially since I have never made one before, nor did I know how to resize pictures correctly.

http://gickr.com/results/anim_52d57101-a599-23c4-29b0-7d86f2158d62.gif

Made a second one also, some of them are too pixilated to look cool, but dang this is fun.

http://gickr.com/results/anim_8d5f3d21-af36-2374-31a5-407fd13c9da8.gif

Sam_298
11-07-2006, 11:12 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/cask8er87/heath2.jpg
Haha, Emo Joker. Though curiously he could act like that sometimes...:huh:

Carmine Falcone
11-07-2006, 12:57 PM
^props for the House avatar.

ghost113
11-07-2006, 03:12 PM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/cask8er87/heath2.jpg
Haha, Emo Joker. Though curiously he could act like that sometimes...:huh:

One of the best and simpliest manips of ledger yet.

Sam_298
11-08-2006, 03:08 PM
^props for the House avatar.
Thanks :D

Nepenthes
11-19-2006, 07:19 AM
Well, since he was already established as the Joker at the end of BB, his origin could only be shown in flashback. And whatever it is Batman obviously cannot be involved.

Not true. Nolan can still connect the Jokers origin to Batman *within the events of BB*...

Remember the scene where Batman attacks Crane and his henchman at the Asylum? He's throwing guys around like rag dolls....and the place is full of deadly chemicals.

You can also tie TKJ and the RedHood and angle into this. Kind of. The Joker was some schmuk forced into working for Crane at the Asylum, mixing chemicals and releasing them into the sewer. Can also explain how Joker became knowledgable in chemistry.






http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/ngorsh01/bat/888888ledgerjoker.jpg

Emo Joker! lol
Apart from the clothes this is my favourite manip so far. Hope he looks like this.

The Joker
11-19-2006, 09:32 AM
Not true. Nolan can still connect the Jokers origin to Batman *within the events of BB*...

Remember the scene where Batman attacks Crane and his henchman at the Asylum? He's throwing guys around like rag dolls....and the place is full of deadly chemicals.

Are you trying to tell me that you'd like the Joker to be one of Scarecrow's former henchman??

Good god, NO! :down Nolan and his team could not be that uncreative with the Joker.

You can also tie TKJ and the RedHood and angle into this. Kind of. The Joker was some schmuk forced into working for Crane at the Asylum, mixing chemicals and releasing them into the sewer. Can also explain how Joker became knowledgable in chemistry.

No, just no. In my opinion, that is a horrible origin for Joker. Scarecrow's lackey who Batman dunked into some chemicals??

Nolan's Batman is no killer right?? So he's not going to throw or toss anyone into some chemicals. In the comics, Joker fell in there himself when running from from Batman.

And if I remember correctly, there was no chemical vats in that scene in BB. All they were making there was Scarecrow's fear toxin, which was being dumped into the water supply.

Nolan said he was using The Killing Joke and Batman #1 as strong source material for Joker. So hopefully that means we're getting the proper Joker origin.

Kraven
11-19-2006, 09:37 AM
Agreed, I don't want the Joker to be one of Scarecrow's henchmen. It just isn't right. Also, it appears that GM's Joker issue has been delayed. I thought it would be, but I didn't realize it would go all the way back to February. :( I'm guessing Andy Kubert is having trouble with the art, but I'm interested in seeing what this guest artist can do.
Here's the newly-colored cover and solicit:

http://images.newsarama.com/dccomics/Feb07/b_man/BM_Cv663.jpg
BATMAN #663
Written by Grant Morrison
Art by John Van Fleet
Cover by Andy Kubert
Writer Grant Morrison continues his acclaimed run on BATMAN! After the shocking event of BATMAN #655, in which the Joker was shot point-blank in the face, the Crown Prince of Crime makes his triumphant return to Gotham to wreck havoc on the city and take his revenge on Batman! And as citizens of Gotham City will soon discover, the Joker’s reappearance is no laughing matter.
On sale February 14 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

The Joker
11-19-2006, 09:40 AM
Also, it appears that GM's Joker issue has been delayed. I thought it would be, but I didn't realize it would go all the way back to February. :(

Wait, so the next issue of Batman isn't out until Febuary?? :wow:

Damn. Well, Joker's also showing up in Detective next month, torturing the bird boy at Christmas. So, hopefully that'll be fun :joker:

Kraven
11-19-2006, 09:49 AM
No, the next issue of Batman is going to be the start of a 4-part arc called Grotesk, by Tom Mandrake and John Ostrander. It was originally supposed to be after the Joker issue, but they bumped it up an issue and bumped the Joker one back four issues.

On the second note, yea, Paul Dini rocks. :up: BTAS was one of the best cartoons I've probably ever seen, and he really can write the Joker well. That issue should definately be excellent, I'll be buying it for sure.

The Joker
11-19-2006, 11:50 AM
No, the next issue of Batman is going to be the start of a 4-part arc called Grotesk, by Tom Mandrake and John Ostrander. It was originally supposed to be after the Joker issue, but they bumped it up an issue and bumped the Joker one back four issues.


You sure??

The latest issue of Batman, the final part of the Talia/Batman's son arc, says that next issue is the Joker's issue. When was this push back announced??

Kraven
11-19-2006, 12:11 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Nov06/previews/nov22.html

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Feb07/solicitations.html

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=91064

Those are the sources I have that make me fairly confident. It was just announced not too long ago, when they released the solicits.

The Joker
11-19-2006, 12:17 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Nov06/previews/nov22.html

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Feb07/solicitations.html

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=91064

Those are the sources I have that make me fairly confident. It was just announced not too long ago, when they released the solicits.

Damn it. I was really looking forward to reading Morrison's Joker next month. They have it announced as the next issue in #658 and all :cmad:

Still, we have his appearance in Detective next month.

Isn't Morrison's story supposed to explain all that stuff we saw a while back, with Gordon being poisoned by Joker, the fake Batman he killed, the kids he kidnapped etc??

Kraven
11-19-2006, 12:24 PM
Yeah, and Morrison has said he plans on bringing a new, scarier Joker back after being shot. I'm guessing his appearance in Detective is supposed to take place before he gets shot or something. It's also supposed to show the new & improved Batmobile too, I think, unless that was shown in #658 (I haven't read it yet). Honestly though... I'm not sure which one I'm anticipating more. Both stories look to be great.

The Joker
11-27-2006, 08:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmKIirjYknM

Here's a great clip from the video game Batman Vengence. It's the intro sequence where we see Joker planning his caper with Harley and their gang.

Great graphics, and you gotta love Mark Hamill's voice talent.

Bat Attack
11-27-2006, 08:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmKIirjYknM

Here's a great clip from the video game Batman Vengence. It's the intro sequence where we see Joker planning his caper with Harley and their gang.

Great graphics, and you gotta love Mark Hamill's voice talent.
Mark Hamill always cracks me up as Joker (except for ROTJ when he was really creepy). :up:

Kraven
11-27-2006, 10:01 PM
Yeah, he's probably my definite Joker, if only voice-wise. That game looks kinda old. Can anyone that's played it say if it's any good?

bestever23
11-28-2006, 09:27 AM
loved in hush payback,ca'nt remember it all but Hush goes into a bar and say "1000 dollars for anyone that can bring me joker" then they all point to joker and he goes "man you just wasted 1000 dollars" lol love that line

The Joker
11-28-2006, 09:44 AM
Mark Hamill always cracks me up as Joker (except for ROTJ when he was really creepy). :up:

Love your avatar dude. Where is that pic from??

Yeah, he's probably my definite Joker, if only voice-wise. That game looks kinda old. Can anyone that's played it say if it's any good?

Yeah, I have it. It's a great game. It only has a handful of villains though: Joker, Harley, Mr Freeze, and Poison Ivy. Being based on the animated series, I was hoping they'd go all out and include loads of villains.

All the voice cast are in it.

loved in hush payback,ca'nt remember it all but Hush goes into a bar and say "1000 dollars for anyone that can bring me joker" then they all point to joker and he goes "man you just wasted 1000 dollars" lol love that line

Hush Payback??

They made another Hush story?? I didn't like what they did in Hush Returns, screwing with Joker's origin, involving the Riddler in it, and having the Joker's name revealed as Jack.

Bat Attack
11-29-2006, 03:45 PM
Love your avatar dude. Where is that pic from??
Thank You :), I don't know where it's from though, I randomly typed in "Christmas Batman" on google and it came up.

ghost113
11-29-2006, 04:21 PM
cool avvy BatAttack

Bat Attack
11-29-2006, 04:48 PM
Thank you. :batman:

ghost113
11-29-2006, 04:51 PM
anybody got any holiday themed joker pics besides the one batattack has

The Joker
11-29-2006, 06:25 PM
anybody got any holiday themed joker pics besides the one batattack has

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/DoctorOck/Xmasjoker1.jpg?t=1164846275
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/DoctorOck/Xmasjoker3.jpg?t=1164846312
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/DoctorOck/Xmasjoker2.jpg?t=1164846296

Kraven
11-29-2006, 06:55 PM
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7334/btlh31bi3.jpg

There's also a pretty good one of him with a Santa hat and everything, from this very comic, but I couldn't find it.

cjk1938
11-29-2006, 06:59 PM
ok, tried posting this in a thread titled high heels, won't be doing that again, so here's a cut and paste instead:

hi guys, this is my first ever post to these boards, i've just joined. i would have started a new thread actually but for some weird reason i can't do that, don't know why, kinda worried about it, maybe tech glitch, maybe problem with my account, dunno, anyway, just stopped by to say i've opened up a whole load of yahoo groups for comic book superheroes, and i'd really like as many of you who have ever joined a yahoo group to come along and check them out. as is, there's nothing on them yet, i've just set them up, cept of course my co-owner of my superman and batman groups has posted about 200 pics of his own in the pics sections, but part from that, nothing, and, last time i checked, my hulk group has only one member part from me, so it'd be great if you could come check em out and join em if you feel so inclined,
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/001SupermanUltimate
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/002BatmanUltimate
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/003IncredibleHulkUltimate
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/004SpiderManUltimate
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/005XMenUltimate
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/006GhostRiderUltimate
oh, and here's a bond one too, and i'm about to set up an iron man, star trek and star wars one
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/007JamesBondUltimate

Bat Attack
11-29-2006, 08:30 PM
You can't make a thread until you have a certain amount of posts, I think. You should go to the FAQ thread in the Technical Support section, or email a mod if you have questions.

The Joker
11-29-2006, 08:31 PM
There's also a pretty good one of him with a Santa hat and everything, from this very comic, but I couldn't find it.

Well, here's the action figure of him wearing it:


http://www.hillcity-comics.com/toys/long_joker.jpg


Great figure. Love that scene, where he had the family tied up with Xmas lights, and stole their tree and all their presents :joker:

Kraven
11-29-2006, 09:07 PM
Yeah, great scene. I also liked it went he tussled it up a bit with Dent. The Long Halloween is easily one of the best Batman stories out there.

Carmine Falcone
11-30-2006, 02:21 AM
There's also a pretty good one of him with a Santa hat and everything, from this very comic, but I couldn't find it.

http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/3p15.jpg

ghost113
11-30-2006, 09:11 PM
This one has to be my favorite and then the one of him in the san ta chair.

The Joker
12-01-2006, 12:34 PM
Does anyone buy this theorey that in the 616 comics, the Joker knows Batman is Bruce Wayne??

Kraven
12-01-2006, 11:12 PM
I don't think he does myself, but if you could show me an incident where he might have somehow deduced it (not sure how he would) then I might buy it.

The Joker
12-07-2006, 10:30 AM
HO HO HO Joker fans, be sure to get the latest issue of Detective comics. Joker has himself a rollickin' good time this christmas, with poor Robin as his reluctant audience.

Seriously, the things he does in issue #826 are viciously evil. Couldn't love that clown more if I tried :joker: :cwink:

Kool-Aid
12-08-2006, 07:16 AM
It was hilarious.