The Official Darkseid Thread

[GreenKToo]

Michael Clark Duncan for me...thoughts??
I know we prolly won't get Darkseid, but you never know.

[lordofthenerds]

I'd rather have Braniac in this one, Darkseid could come later.

But if they were to use him as a villain Duncan would be a good choice.

[green]

I think that I remember hearing that they dont have the rights to use Darkseid.

[GreenKToo]

awwwww man,that sux if its true....I think that I remember hearing that they dont have the rights to use Darkseid.

[Eddie Dean]

Personally, I would go with Dennis Haysbert. He's got the voice, the commanding presence, and not to mention the acting skills.
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Or if you want to go with the obvious choice, there's Michael Ironside.
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[Steelsheen]

whoever's gonna be Darkseid has got to be tall and quite imposing. a lot of his features will most likely be made up of prosthetics but they cant easily fake height and built.

what about the guy who played Lurtz in LOTR, Lawrence Makoare> not sure if he could pull off the voice, but perhaps they could hir another actor for that, like Jeremy Irons as you suggested.

[Frodo]

Michael Clarke Duncan would be good even though he's already played Kingpin.

[Superfreak]

Michael Clarke Duncan would be good even though he's already played Kingpin.

with JEJ as the voice, that's a lock for sure

[Eddie Dean]

Michael Clarke Duncan would be good even though he's already played Kingpin.
I can never buy Duncan as a villain, there's just something about him that doesn't seem very imposing.

Lawrence Fishburne would be another good choice.
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[Lobo]

Michael Clarke Duncan would be my choice for Darkseid

[DavidTyler]

Michael Clark Duncan.....

I can't think of anyone better. He'll just need to do some voice coaching. Darksied needs to sound Shakespearian .. or at least like Michael Ironside (who, btw, was my original choice a long time ago but he's much too old now).

[Eddie Dean]

Darksied needs to sound Shakespearian .. or at least like Michael Ironside (who, btw, was my original choice a long time ago but he's much too old now).
What does age matter? Ironside could just do the voice and someone else could be the body.

[DavidTyler]

What does age matter? Ironside could just do the voice and someone else could be the body.


While that worked fine for Darth Vader, it would be an insult to Duncan. An actor's expressions are directly tied to his delivery of lines. Duncan is very much a good actor and can handle the role unaided. He will just need a good vocal coach to help him develop that regal and deadly voice I feel the character should have.

It wouldn't be bad to put Ironside in all the heavy make-up to play Darksied but I don't know if he'd do it at his age. I would love to see it, though. In lieu of Ironside - Duncan.

[Eddie Dean]

You have a point, but Duncan still doesn't work for me. Maybe it was his role in The Green Mile, but he never seems very imposing to me. Haysbert and Fishburne would be much better choices.

[DavidTyler]

You have a point, but Duncan still doesn't work for me. Maybe it was his role in The Green Mile, but he never seems very imposing to me. Haysbert and Fishburne would be much better choices.

How did you feel about him in 'Planet of the Apes'?

[Eddie Dean]

Never seen it.

[DavidTyler]

Never seen it.

Duncan is the evil Thade's gorilla general. I found him to be both imposing and a bit like Darksied.

He's buried in heavy facial make-up but he still manages to punch through it. Not every actor can emote under all that rubber and have it reflected in his 'face'.

[Eddie Dean]

Cool, I'll have to see it.

[DavidTyler]

Word of warning: Burton's re-imagining of 'Apes' was not everyone's cup of tea. I didn't mind it. It's OK. Love the make-up in it. This is the first time I've ever seen it done so well that the human actors actually look like apes.

[Kid_Kaos]

I'd go with Duncan but wouldn't mind complete CGI either.

[M.O.Steel]

who is this michael ironside? can we get a pic?

[deathshead2]

iron sides just CGI him up a little bit he already has the voice sense he did them in the cartoons.

[deathshead2]

who is this michael ironside? can we get a pic?Top of the page 2nd pic.

[M.O.Steel]

Top of the page 2nd pic.

haha...sorry, it didn't load up the first time.

I'm not sure why you guys want him, just because he does Darkseid's voice. Unless Darkseid will be completely CG (which i sincerely hope it's not), i don't see the point, unless you honestly see him as darkseid in person. I personally don't.

While i believe from the list that michael clark duncan is most physically matching darkseid, I don't see him as that character either. He's always smiling and goofy, and it worked for kingpin because he's a charming charcter and businessman, but darkseid is the most serious conqueror. Doesn't fit as well.

[deathshead2]

ironside has the headshape and build. Well he did a few years ago but thats what costumes are for.

[KaptainKrypton]

I'd go for Clancy Brown or Michael Clarke Duncan. I'm sure there are some others who could do the job, but these are my top candidates off the top of my head. Or, you could have a solid actor of any height (preferably with a great voice) do motion capture and voice work for a CG version of Darkseid. I checked my Encyclopedia and his height is listed at 8'9" and his weight at 1,815 lbs so if he was to be constructed along those lines there couldn't be a real actor to play him so he'd have to be constructed ala the Hulk. If building him according to the source material isn't a priority, then just find an actor who's as tall or taller than Routh.

[Eddie Dean]

Clancy Brown would be good also.

[lujho]

Darkseid would either be:

- CGI with a voice actor (and possibly mo-cap of that actor, ala Gollum, Kong)
- Man in suit/make-up doing own voice (ala The Thing, Hellboy)
- Man in suit/make-up being dubbed by someone else (ala Darth Maul)
- SUPERMARIONATION

Now, man in suit could either be unaltered in size, in which case he'd have to be a big guy (Nathan Jones or Lawrence Makoare type guy), OR - and people don't usually think of this one - it could be a normal sized guy in a suit BUT made larger by use of forced perspective, larger body doubles and digital compositing. Remember Hyde in LXG? Like that. And of course these techniques were used copiously in the Lord of the Rings movies.

ANYWAY.... there are a lot of good voice guys - Clancy brown would be great but I'd really like to keep him handy if Lex were ever recast :)

A great voice guy is Keith David, who is just a great guy for these kind of voices. He's the cleric in Pitch Black, among other things, but he's done a lot of voices for games and animation. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0202966/

[Eddie Dean]

Ohh, Keith David is a great choice.

[Zigno]

darkseid will never be in a superman action live movie

[Kroc1138]

Michael Clarke Duncan would be good even though he's already played Kingpin.
He's My Number 1 for Darkseid.

[Kroc1138]

with JEJ as the voice, that's a lock for sureWhile JEJ has a great Darkseid Voice, MCD does as well. He did a Stroke PSA some years back and I thought damn he'd be perfect for Darkseid.

Check it Out! (http://video.yahoo.com/video/search?p=Michael+Clarke+Duncan+Stroke+PSA&x=33&y=13)

[Kroc1138]

While that worked fine for Darth Vader, it would be an insult to Duncan. An actor's expressions are directly tied to his delivery of lines. Duncan is very much a good actor and can handle the role unaided. He will just need a good vocal coach to help him develop that regal and deadly voice I feel the character should have.Well, he did sound very regal in Planet of the Apes. It was a Lousy Remake but his performance was top notch. I'm not too sure if a vocal Coach is necessary. (But I don't see it hurting either)

[Eddie Dean]

Duncan should stick to protagonist or comedy roles, I just can't buy him as a villian.

I still think Haysbert would be awesome as Darkseid.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Clancy Brown could be good or they could use a wrestler and have Michael Ironside do a voice over.

[Lightspeed]

Michael Ironside's voice in the cartoon was perfect IMO. They should do CGI with his voice.

[TKing]

darkseid will never be in a superman action live movie

And why not?

[Superfreak]

While that worked fine for Darth Vader, it would be an insult to Duncan. An actor's expressions are directly tied to his delivery of lines. Duncan is very much a good actor and can handle the role unaided. He will just need a good vocal coach to help him develop that regal and deadly voice I feel the character should have.

It wouldn't be bad to put Ironside in all the heavy make-up to play Darksied but I don't know if he'd do it at his age. I would love to see it, though. In lieu of Ironside - Duncan.

In this situation, that is one of the dumbest things I've ever read... Facial expressions and bla bla bla. Just like Vader, MDC would be seriously makeuped for the role. To the point where it's not MDC. I mean this is DS here people. If MDC were to play the body, the make up approach would be something like they did for Hellboy, just DS.

but I agree with the poster who you were replying too. MDC does not have, and will never have the right voice for Darksied. He should be brilliantly civilized and totally evil. MDC has the voice of a 400 pound child IMO.

Making DS a double role, one for the body, and one for voice is the way to go.

[Eddie Dean]

I'm going to go with any of these people:

Dennis Haysbert
Lawrence Fishburne
Keith David
Clancy Brown
Michael Ironside

[dpm07]

I think Michael Clarke Duncan would be the best option for Darkseid.

That said, as much as I'd love to see Darkseid in a Superman film, based on what Singer has done with the Superman franchise, I don't see it happening. I think he's probably leaning more toward bringing in Zod, or bringing in a rogue Kryptonian family.

[The Kid]

I don't even know why this thread was made. Guaranteed, we WILL be seeing Zod Return in another singer Supes film.

It's what he seems to want to do and it's what I just know many will want regardless of what it means for superman in this modern era, why, heh... I have some theories. Can't wait for Bruce timm's movie.

[November Rain]

ironside actually has a face for darkseid...as well as the attitude and stature...

not to mention the voice...

however his current age may be an issue, if he looked like he did in top gun, then this would be a no-brainer...


second choice would be alan dale, who played caleb nichol in the OC and more famously Jim Robinson in Neighbours

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he definitely has the stature (being tall) and the face for darkseid as well as the built in authorative figure and a voice for it.

he would make a great darkseid for me

[dpm07]

The only way we'd see Darkseid in a film is if Bruce Timm/Paul Dini wrote the story.

Unfortunately, that will not happen as Singer wouldn't be able to control them, and Singer's ego would not allow anyone to do the story other than his whack pack of writers, Harris & Daugherty.

[Eddie Dean]

Sad, but tue. :down

[Klor-El]

Darkseid is a villian with a lot of character so CGI wouldnt do him justice! They used CGI on the Hulk because he was just a roaring big beast who didnt say anything! Bruce Banner was the real character!

Bryan Singer has hinted he may include Darkseid over the course of future Superman films and has also hinted he would like Micheal Clarke Duncan to play him.

[Kroc1138]

Darkseid is a villian with a lot of character so CGI wouldnt do him justice! They used CGI on the Hulk because he was just a roaring big beast who didnt say anything! Bruce Banner was the real character!I agree with the General Sentiment. But for different reasons. Mainly b/c an actor actually playing the character generally works so much better than CGI.

Bryan Singer has hinted he may include Darkseid over the course of future Superman films and has also hinted he would like Micheal Clarke Duncan to play him.You better have a source or you should stop lying like that. Seriously, it's not funny to play with my emotion like that.

[Weadazoid]

For the voice I would still go with Vin Diesel

[thorstone]

I have no idea who to cast for the voice, I hope it will be computer enhanced; and I hope they cast someone whom they can base the face of their Darkseid on (cgi or stop motion animation).

Darkseid could never be played by a guy in a suit; he has to be like 12 foot tall.

[lujho]

I have no idea who to cast for the voice, I hope it will be computer enhanced; and I hope they cast someone whom they can base the face of their Darkseid on (cgi or stop motion animation).

Darkseid could never be played by a guy in a suit; he has to be like 12 foot tall.

It's just as easy to make a normal guy look 12 feet tall as to use a CG character. ANd probably cheaper, and just as effective.

[rduce]

whoever's gonna be Darkseid has got to be tall and quite imposing. a lot of his features will most likely be made up of prosthetics but they cant easily fake height and built.

what about the guy who played Lurtz in LOTR, Lawrence Makoare> not sure if he could pull off the voice, but perhaps they could hir another actor for that, like Jeremy Irons as you suggested.

First of all, they can certainly fake build and height. Have you ever seen “The Green Mile”? In that film Michael Clarke Duncan’s character towered over everyone else and was over twice as broad, all the time being merely an inch taller than the tallest actor playing next to him (David Morse). This was all done with camera angles and forced perspective photography, no CGI.
Now for any upcoming sequel, should there be one, the budget is going to be reduced considerably and this will force them to trim SFX and CGI particularly, ala Superman IV and we all know how that turned out. Darkseid, Doomsday and to a lesser extent Brainiac are, in my opinion, heavy CGI opponents, so I do not expect to see them in the next installment.

[The Question]

Brainiac isn't havy CG. All you need is a fellow with green make up and what looks like electronic bits sticking out of him. If you're going with his comic book powers, vast telepathy, telekenisis, energy manipulations, and the ability to interface with machines, then all you need CG for is the energy blasts.

[KaptainKrypton]

Brainiac isn't havy CG. All you need is a fellow with green make up and what looks like electronic bits sticking out of him. If you're going with his comic book powers, vast telepathy, telekenisis, energy manipulations, and the ability to interface with machines, then all you need CG for is the energy blasts.
:up: I'm all for more physical FX when it comes to Brainiac, man. Let Stan Winston have a crack at designing him. I wouldn't mind if they did a mixture of the different incarnations...or even if they gave him the funky little mustache...


...well, maybe I'd mind that.

[The Question]

Well, here's how I see Brainiac happening: He starts off as a deep space probe sent out by the empire of Colu. Colu wanted to perfect their society, and so they pacified it. Essentially, they lobotomized their entire population and implanted computerized parts into their brains so they could be controlled. To increase their technology and overall knowledge and to spread order to the rest of the universe, they sent out several probes to carry out those tasks. Eventually, the people of Colu rebelled and regained their free will (although they retained their techno/organic brains, resulting in their vast inteligence), and destroyed all of the deep space probes. Except one. That probe, after monitoring events on Earth and learning of the Kryptonian technology there, came to our planet. It was found by a carnival psychic and magician named Milton Fine. The probe killed fine and latched onto his body, taking it as it's own. It then began using Fine's stage name, Brainiac, to identify itself.

Brainiac vastly enhanced Fine's meager psychic abilities, giving it vast telekenisis and telepathy and the ability to generate massive energy blasts. Way I see it, through the film, Brainiac slowly converts Fine's body into that of a techno/organic life form throughout the film, causing it's skin to turn green, it's eyes to look more mechanical, and wires to be visible underneath it's skin. More obvious electronic parts out be sticking out of it's skin, primairily three red dots on it's forehead and certain tools on it's forarms.

[KaptainKrypton]

^Cool concept. I also wouldn't mind Brainiac having a takeoff of some of the features of the Terminatrix from T3 (i.e. onboard weaponry and shapeshifting ability). I figured, that if they ripped it off for Smallville...why not do it in the movie? If this didn't happen though, no big deal.

[KaptainKrypton]

Now for any upcoming sequel, should there be one, the budget is going to be reduced considerably and this will force them to trim SFX and CGI particularly, ala Superman IV and we all know how that turned out.

They won't trim the budget like that movie. That movie had millions removed at the last second so they began with A-list pre-production and principal photography, and it was finished like a Roger Corman masterpiece. Warner will give enough money to get the thing done. Especially now that they don't have to do everything from scratch the second time around.

[Kroc1138]

I have no idea who to cast for the voice, I hope it will be computer enhanced; and I hope they cast someone whom they can base the face of their Darkseid on (cgi or stop motion animation).

Darkseid could never be played by a guy in a suit; he has to be like 12 foot tall.Why would Darkseid need to be that tall? He's only 7 feet tall in the comics.

[The Question]

I really don't think Darkseid should apear as a villain in a Superman movie. It would just diminish the character, I thinl. Darkseid's a threat to the entire DCU, not just Superman.

[Lobo]

I really don't think Darkseid should apear as a villain in a Superman movie. It would just diminish the character, I thinl. Darkseid's a threat to the entire DCU, not just Superman.
I agree he'd end up being Darkseid lite. Thats why i'd much rather see Mongul ina Superman movie. How about James Avery as the voice?

[Andy C.]

I think Darkseid would be a terrible choice for a villain. For one, if he's at his original "I can wipe you from existence just by looking at you" power level, then there's no convincing way for him to lose. If they trim down his powers so they can have him actually fight, then the fans will constantly whine and moan about his powers being neutered (like they already do about the STAS Darkseid) And to be honest, his whole background story just sounds kind of silly if it's presented as a stand-alone story and not part of the larger DCU.

Plus, I can't imagine Darkseid being presented on the big screen without looking stupid. There are just some things that, while they may look cool when drawn, just don't translate when they're done in 3-D. That's why the Green Goblin looked like a bad Power Rangers villain in the first Spider-Man movie. That's why Milton Fine is never shown as regular ol' Brainiac on Smallville. That's why they'll likely never make a movie with Bizarro or Mr. Mxyzptlk. I know he's one of Superman's most important villains, but I can't conceive a three-dimensional version of him not looking goofy.

[The Question]

I don't see how he'd look bad on screen. But here's something more important: He is not a "Superman villain." Writers these days have treated him as such, and writers these days suck at writing Darkseid. Darkseid is a thread to the DCU entire. Superman should matter just as much to him as any other member of the JLA.

[Andy C.]

I'm not going to get into that argument, because frankly I've never been a fan of the character, and I find it amusing that people complain about Superman being "too powerful," but then immediately say that Darkseid should be able to take on the entire DCU by himself.

But either way, whether he's all but omnipotent or Superman's personal punching bad, he shouldn't be put into movie form. There are plenty of other villains better suited for a one-on-one with Supes that can be done without compromising the character. And if you must do Darkseid, save it for a JLA movie.

[The Question]

I'm not going to get into that argument, because frankly I've never been a fan of the character, and I find it amusing that people complain about Superman being "too powerful," but then immediately say that Darkseid should be able to take on the entire DCU by himself.

Because Superman and Darkseid fill completely different roles in the DCU. Darkseid's suposed to be a threat to everyone, wheras Superman still deals with his own personal rogues gallary who would not threaten the DCU entire as a team.

But either way, whether he's all but omnipotent or Superman's personal punching bad, he shouldn't be put into movie form. There are plenty of other villains better suited for a one-on-one with Supes that can be done without compromising the character. And if you must do Darkseid, save it for a JLA movie.

Nope. If you're doing Darkseid, save it for a Fourth World movie.

[Kroc1138]

I really don't think Darkseid should apear as a villain in a Superman movie. It would just diminish the character, I thinl. Darkseid's a threat to the entire DCU, not just Superman.I disagree. While you are right about him being a JLA villain, I still don't see why he should premier in a Superman film. If the WB can keep all their Superhero franchises together then they can have a JLA Film with many of the JLA Villains including Darkseid.
It depends on How he is implemented.

[The Question]

I disagree. While you are right about him being a JLA villain, I still don't see why he should premier in a Superman film. If the WB can keep all their Superhero franchises together then they can have a JLA Film with many of the JLA Villains including Darkseid.
It depends on How he is implemented.

No. Darkseid's enimity of Superman should only be a side interest for the character. As in, he dislikes Superman and fights him from time to time, but he's not exclusively a Superman villain. Besides, he should apear in a Fourth World movie.

[Kroc1138]

No. Darkseid's enimity of Superman should only be a side interest for the character. As in, he dislikes Superman and fights him from time to time, but he's not exclusively a Superman villain. Besides, he should apear in a Fourth World movie.Who said he was? I didn't. I actually think that he should be a Villain in Numerous other Superhero films first. Superman being the first since they are often associated with each other. Wonder Woman would be another cadidate as well. I don't what's so wrong with having him appear as a Villain in some movies and then have his own storyline in another movie.

[The Question]

Who said he was? I didn't. I actually think that he should be a Villain in Numerous other Superhero films first. Superman being the first since they are often associated with each other. Wonder Woman would be another cadidate as well. I don't what's so wrong with having him appear as a Villain in some movies and then have his own storyline in another movie.

I guess. But I think it would be simpler to just have him in a New Gods/Fourth World film.

[Kroc1138]

I guess. But I think it would be simpler to just have him in a New Gods/Fourth World film.I'm not against that.

[zanos]

Anyone can play darkseid. It's the voice you have to get right.

[thorstone]

I would make Darkseid very powerful but also show his wisdom as he brings kryptonite to deal with Superman-- I would have him kill Superman in one movie and bring him back in the sequel.

[GL1]

Duncan. Ironside isn't going to be doing anything more than Dubbing if he gets involved. I think Lawrence Fishburne has the closest to the total package and a Hellboy-like suit with a slight character redesign would be the best way to go.

That said, i don't think Darkseid is the best way to go for this franchise. Darkseid can be done, he can be depowered or Superman can be powered up, or a balance can be made, little storyline things that allow Superman not to get obliterated and accomplish his goal even if he can't beat Darkseid up... but I don't think Darkseid would do any good. SR is about character relationships first and foremost. You can't just ignore all of that and shoot the franchise into space with a villain that has no connection to anyone or anything.

And lets be honest... there's not going to be a "Fourth World" movie... so lets just drop that point right now.

[The Question]

And lets be honest... there's not going to be a "Fourth World" movie... so lets just drop that point right now.

Then Darkseid should never apear on film.

[batman7289]

good picks yall

[GL1]

Then Darkseid should never apear on film.

Well fine then. Be that way. :word:

[Lando81]

How about Michael Clarke Duncan?

[The Question]

Well fine then. Be that way. :word:

If by "that way" you mean "right," then yes, of course I will. :o

[WhatsHisFace]

Superman movies are "Superman in the real world" so no Darkseid.

[Speedball]

Christopher Judge of Stargate.
Perfect Build, perfect voice for Darkseid.

[batlovescatDC]

I don't even know why this thread was made. Guaranteed, we WILL be seeing Zod Return in another singer Supes film.

It's what he seems to want to do and it's what I just know many will want regardless of what it means for superman in this modern era, why, heh... I have some theories. Can't wait for Bruce timm's movie.


Zod was originally going to be in S.R.... but Singer refused to do Zod if Jude Law wasn't going to play him. Jude Law turned down the role 3 TIMES! He has said before that he will not do a comic book film, when he was being rumored for Harvey Dent back when Batman Begins was being cast. So if Singer still has the same mind-setting about casting Zod... things are looking like there will be no Zod in the sequel(s).

Ralph Fiennes as Brainiac and Michael Clark Duncan as Darkseid should be the villains...

[Eddie Dean]

Christopher Judge of Stargate.
Perfect Build, perfect voice for Darkseid.
Actually, that's really good. I would say that he looks way too feminine, but that doesn't really mater if he's playing Darkseid.

[GreenKToo]

The guy from the X-files, Bryan thompson I think thats his name.. He was in mortal combat 1 or 2 as well. He prolly couldnt pull it off, but he's got a great voice for it.

[GreenKToo]

thought I would bump this up, since it looks like we 'MAY' get Darkseid.

[Sharkfestation]

I think that I remember hearing that they dont have the rights to use Darkseid.


Actually, Alex Ford did have Darkseid in mind in the last flim of his franschise. Only problem was that John Peters didn't know who all of these Superman villains that were going to appear in Alex Ford's Superman franschise. Darkseid did appear in Superman:TAS. For all of those who are going to say Darkseid was created by another person. So they can't use. But this doesn't make sense because Brainiac, Metallo, Parasite, Doomsday, and even Zod were created by different people. Even if they had to buy the rights to the New Gods charectors, it wouldn't be as expenisive because the New Gods aren't as popular as Jack Kibry's other creations like the Hulk, Capiton America, and Fantasic Four.

Sorry for spelling and grammer.

[Iron Fist]

Save Darkseid for the next movie after the sequel. Brainiac would be a much better choice imo.

[Showtime]

There is a good chance you could see Darkseid in a JLA movie.

[Iron Fist]

^ Yeah, it could happen.

[RouthIsSuperman]

I though that Darseid was mainly a Justice League villain.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

There is a good chance you could see Darkseid in a JLA movie.

A very good chance, but the movie would have to be 4 hours long just to explain everything!

[Matt]

Which is why the White Martians would be more likely in a JLA origin movie. Were there a sequel, Darkseid is probably the number one contender for villian.

And of course Warners owns the rights. They own DC comics, they own every Superman character.

[COMPO]

I wonder fi they'll ever use Ultra-Humanite. but, yeah i think it's too early for Darksied. Maybe after a few villians have shown up like Brainiac or Metallo then maybe?

[Kabuki_Jo]

There is a good chance you could see Darkseid in a JLA movie.

That'd be awesome too.

[Iron Fist]

I though that Darseid was mainly a Justice League villain.

Nope, he is apart of Superman's rouges gallery.

[Tron5000]

And of course Warners owns the rights. They own DC comics, they own every Superman character.

Apparently not the rights to Superboy. That kinda blows.

[dark_b]

ok first we need an easie badguy. darkside is to much.
there is a bigger chance that schumacher will be the director of batman 3 than having darkside. IMO

[Ibn]

Save Darkseid for the next movie after the sequel. Brainiac would be a much better choice imo.



Yep. And I cant think of anyone besides MCD either. Has a great voice too. Superman going to Apokolips would be badass.:wow:

[Steelsheen]

There is a good chance you could see Darkseid in a JLA movie.

yeah he would be of better use there.

[GreenKToo]

I would want a trilogy if they did J.L., with of course DARKSEID...

[Iron Fist]

Yep. And I cant think of anyone besides MCD either. Has a great voice too. Superman going to Apokolips would be badass.:wow:

My thoughts exactly. :up:

[capedcrus8r]

Michael Clarke Duncan already played Kingpin in Daredevil.... Besides it's already been leaked that they ARE planning to put Darkseid in the movie played by Laurence Fishburne...

[GreenKToo]

Laurence Fishburne already voiced the silver surfer.

[VenomsMom]

Darkseid would be a good launch for a JL francise. But how about Amazo?

[GreenKToo]

Amazo?? I dunno. He doesnt have that wow factor, at least to me anyway.

[capedcrus8r]

Laurence Fishburne already voiced the silver surfer.

Yeah but you wouldn't know it unless you read it in the credits.

[VenomsMom]

Yeah but you wouldn't know it unless you read it in the credits.
I could recognize it right away that it was Fishbourne without knowing it. He has a unique voice.

[Ibn]

Michael Clarke Duncan already played Kingpin in Daredevil.... Besides it's already been leaked that they ARE planning to put Darkseid in the movie played by Laurence Fishburne...


Laurence is kinda...... small though.:ninja:

[Kebab gud]

Michael Clarke Duncan already played Kingpin in Daredevil.... Besides it's already been leaked that they ARE planning to put Darkseid in the movie played by Laurence Fishburne...
and when did this happen?

[Sharkfestation]

This also a storyline for the Man of Steel also. Just because Superman and Lois slept together doesn't mean they had sex. Also just because Jason has super powers doesn't mean he is Superman's son. My idea is based a little on Richard Donner's the Last Son and with elements from Superman/Batman: Supergirl. After Superman dispearence from Earth, a spacecraft lands in the bay near Richard White and Lois Lane's house. Richard is very surprised to discover a young boy come out of the water. Richard Lois adopt him as their son. Superman judging by Jason's poweres and remebering what he problemy did to Lois makes him think Jason. However, its turns out in the Man of Steel, Jason is from Apokolips and his biological parents are Darkseid and Lashina. Darkseid sent Jason to Earth to conquer Earth, find the Anti-Life Equation (he believes it is on Earth), and get revenge on the Last Son of Krypton without him wasting his armies and minions on a "speck in the universe". Krypton is going to replace New Genesis as the planet that kept Apokolips in check. After Krypton was destroyed, Darkseid terrorized the universe by conquering planet after planet. Then he found out that a Kryptonian was still alive on Earth. He wanted to get revenge of Krypton's Last Son, so he sent one of his sons to do it. Thinking that Jason was diead, he and his armies go to Earth to do all the things that Jason was supposed to do. Only to find out that Jason was alive and was turned "soft and weak". Darkseid kidnaps Jason and brain washes him to attack Superman. Superman is forced to fight a battle against Darkseid's minions,armies, Darkseid, and the closes person he had as a son, Jason.

[wellsy]

A pretty well thought-out plot, to be honest.

However, its still the cliched "turn the kid evil" mixed in with "make him not Superman's son" plot, and they get bandied about a lot here.

Thats not to say its bad - its far better than most of the other suggestions put here (and fairly original in the use of characters). But just not what I'd like to see in MoS.

[Wolfman]

Just because Superman and slept together doesn't mean they had sex.

Lol. I guess it's possible, but why wouldn't they had sex? And if they didn't... Superman is still a virgin? I feel sorry for him then..

[dpm07]

While I would love to see Darkseid in a Superman film, I can't see Singer doing him.

Furthermore, I would rather not think of Lashina as the mother. Maybe Granny Goodness, but not Lashina.

I always liked Lashina the most of the Female Furies.

[Justice Bringer]

Lol. I guess it's possible, but why wouldn't they had sex? And if they didn't... Superman is still a virgin? I feel sorry for him then..

They were in a relationship so they obviously slept together more than once. His story says he never impregnated her though.

This is interesting but what happened to the kid at the end of The Last Son arc?

The only problem negating this idea is Lois already told Superman that Jason was his son.

[hippie_hunter]

This is interesting but what happened to the kid at the end of The Last Son arc?

The story is still ongoing thanks to Adam Kubert's lateness. The last chapter will happen in Action Comics Annual #11.

Last chapter revealed that the kid is indeed the biological son of Dru-Zod and Ursa and that he was born in the Phantom Zone, hence why he's immune to it's effects and has aged within the prison dimension. His Kryptonian name is Lor-Zod and he hates his parents due to their horrible mistreatment of him.

[manofsteel4life]

The story is still ongoing thanks to Adam Kubert's lateness. The last chapter will happen in Action Comics Annual #11.

Last chapter revealed that the kid is indeed the biological son of Dru-Zod and Ursa and that he was born in the Phantom Zone, hence why he's immune to it's effects and has aged within the prison dimension. His Kryptonian name is Lor-Zod and he hates his parents due to their horrible mistreatment of him.
but the question i have for you is....do you think Singer is thinking that way with Jason or is he just keeping him as kind of the next coming to supes, maybe when he dies or something....what do you think?

[Dope Nose]

but it's Lois who tells Superman that Jason is his son. it's what she whispers to him at the hospital. or at least that's always been my understanding. and even if she didn't, don't you think she would have mentioned the whole 'finding Jason in a spaceship' thing to Superman at some point during Returns?

[manofsteel4life]

but it's Lois who tells Superman that Jason is his son. it's what she whispers to him at the hospital. or at least that's always been my understanding. and even if she didn't, don't you think she would have mentioned the whole 'finding Jason in a spaceship' thing to Superman at some point during Returns?
yea i know...reading all these threads and people's comments make me sometimes forget what happened in the movie

[Sharkfestation]

While I would love to see Darkseid in a Superman film, I can't see Singer doing him.


Furthermore, I would rather not think of Lashina as the mother. Maybe Granny Goodness, but not Lashina.


I always liked Lashina the most of the Female Furies.


Lashina is far more attractive then Granny Goodness. Audiences chould see why a powerful guy like Darkseid would be attracted and would have sex with Lashina better then Granny Goodness. It also seems like in comics and in the cartoons, that Granny and Darkseid respect each other greatly but don't really like each other. However, I could be wrong about this idea.

[VenomsMom]

This also a storyline for the Man of Steel also. Just because Superman and Lois slept together doesn't mean they had sex. Also just because Jason has super powers doesn't mean he is Superman's son. My idea is based a little on Richard Donner's the Last Son and with elements from Superman/Batman: Supergirl. After Superman dispearence from Earth, a spacecraft lands in the bay near Richard White and Lois Lane's house. Richard is very surprised to discover a young boy come out of the water. Richard Lois adopt him as their son. Superman judging by Jason's poweres and remebering what he problemy did to Lois makes him think Jason. However, its turns out in the Man of Steel, Jason is from Apokolips and his biological parents are Darkseid and Lashina. Darkseid sent Jason to Earth to conquer Earth, find the Anti-Life Equation (he believes it is on Earth), and get revenge on the Last Son of Krypton without him wasting his armies and minions on a "speck in the universe". Krypton is going to replace New Genesis as the planet that kept Apokolips in check. After Krypton was destroyed, Darkseid terrorized the universe by conquering planet after planet. Then he found out that a Kryptonian was still alive on Earth. He wanted to get revenge of Krypton's Last Son, so he sent one of his sons to do it. Thinking that Jason was diead, he and his armies go to Earth to do all the things that Jason was supposed to do. Only to find out that Jason was alive and was turned "soft and weak". Darkseid kidnaps Jason and brain washes him to attack Superman. Superman is forced to fight a battle against Darkseid's minions,armies, Darkseid, and the closes person he had as a son, Jason.
Not a bad idea Sharkfestation. However Singer should keep his hands off of Darkseid. And I am not really into Jason being the love child of Darkseid and Lashina-a character you have made a strong desire to see. But I am glad someone else is seeing the possibilities of Jason being another person's son. I have preached on this in many of my posts. And like someone pointed out there is a current story arc with Supes and Lois raising Zod's son. I think there is a huge twist invoving Jason as we will find out. Yes....you are on to something here. Jason will be used by this alien villain. I kinda understand what you are saying about Supes and Lois and there so called night of passion that concieved Jason. Did it really happen? Is someone brainwashing Lois into thinking she gave birth? The powers we have seen Supes use on Lois such as erasing her mind and turning back the hands of time? Is it possible? Someone else can possess these powers and much more hiding the mere fact. This villain is just idly waiting on their chance to wreak havok planting their seed on earth watching it grow from a far. Counting down the days to annihilation. Yes Shark...you are on to something.

[VenomsMom]

Let us not forget that scene in Returns where Jason conveniently steamrolls Brutus with that piano. Was it because his mother was about to be dealt a deathblow to her head? Probably. But could Jason may have enjoyed what he had done? Is it a sign of things to come. A bad seed that has been planted? What seem like an innocent move intended to help may have indicated much more. If this is what Singer had in mind then this kid was a good idea. Otherwise if you all want to see Lex kidnap him and they threaten to kill the boy if Supes does not meet the demands of Lex and this alien villain, then we have all predicted the obvious.

[manofsteel4life]

Let us not forget that scene in Returns where Jason conveniently steamrolls Brutus with that piano. Was it because his mother was about to be dealt a deathblow to her head? Probably. But could Jason may have enjoyed what he had done? Is it a sign of things to come. A bad seed that has been planted? What seem like an innocent move intended to help may have indicated much more. If this is what Singer had in mind then this kid was a good idea. Otherwise if you all want to see Lex kidnap him and they threaten to kill the boy if Supes does not meet the demands of Lex and this alien villain, then we have all predicted the obvious.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Spiderine]

Not a bad idea Sharkfestation. However Singer should keep his hands off of Darkseid. And I am not really into Jason being the love child of Darkseid and Lashina-a character you have made a strong desire to see. But I am glad someone else is seeing the possibilities of Jason being another person's son. I have preached on this in many of my posts. And like someone pointed out there is a current story arc with Supes and Lois raising Zod's son. I think there is a huge twist invoving Jason as we will find out. Yes....you are on to something here. Jason will be used by this alien villain. I kinda understand what you are saying about Supes and Lois and there so called night of passion that concieved Jason. Did it really happen? Is someone brainwashing Lois into thinking she gave birth? The powers we have seen Supes use on Lois such as erasing her mind and turning back the hands of time? Is it possible? Someone else can possess these powers and much more hiding the mere fact. This villain is just idly waiting on their chance to wreak havok planting their seed on earth watching it grow from a far. Counting down the days to annihilation. Yes Shark...you are on to something.
That could be very interesting. The whole notion being a set up for this villain. Jason possibly being something else. We have seen Lois's mind tampered with on a number of occasions. It would make for a huge twist in the movie. Never really thought about it. But I like it.:up:

[Spiderine]

Let us not forget that scene in Returns where Jason conveniently steamrolls Brutus with that piano. Was it because his mother was about to be dealt a deathblow to her head? Probably. But could Jason may have enjoyed what he had done? Is it a sign of things to come. A bad seed that has been planted? What seem like an innocent move intended to help may have indicated much more. If this is what Singer had in mind then this kid was a good idea. Otherwise if you all want to see Lex kidnap him and they threaten to kill the boy if Supes does not meet the demands of Lex and this alien villain, then we have all predicted the obvious.
I remember that scene. Funny you mentioned that because it seems he develops this power when upset or angered. Like what that thug was about to do. When Lois and Jason were trapped he tried to open that door and failed. What happened to the power? It works on emotion and he will learn to use it with his anger. Good point.

[manofsteel4life]

this is what makes me so anxious, because there are a number of possiblites that could happen with the sequel.....just imagine how this would change people's views on Singer and SR haters if this was the real outcome of Jason.....im telling ya man....stop doubting Singer!!

[Billy Batson]

this is what makes me so anxious, because there are a number of possiblites that could happen with the sequel.....just imagine how this would change people's views on Singer and SR haters if this was the real outcome of Jason.....im telling ya man....stop doubting Singer!!

http://bp0.blogger.com/_uWcHP8ZU9kw/RsJ0EnZ2AZI/AAAAAAAAAGw/rwfOOhwoPpY/s320/postersuperkid.jpg

[Wolfman]

http://bp0.blogger.com/_uWcHP8ZU9kw/RsJ0EnZ2AZI/AAAAAAAAAGw/rwfOOhwoPpY/s320/postersuperkid.jpg
LOL!!!

[Motown Marvel]

well, considering superman obviously believes jason is his son, and since it STRONGLY implies thats what lois told him in the hospital...i think its pretty safe to say they they had the sex. also, it'd look really cheap if they came back in the sequel and were essentially like "surprise! its not supermans kid! its an alien that landed in lois' backyard!"

[TBadora]

http://hallofheroes.free.fr/Images/Vilains/darkseid2.jpg


I have always wanted to see Darkseid make an appearance in a Superman film. To this day, my wish has not come true. I would like to know how many people on Superhero Hype share my view. I have been watching the villain polls and I have noticed most people would like have Darkseid as a villain, for those of you who haven't voted, here's your chance to post your opinion. Most important of all, I would like to see some opinions on which actor you'd think would make the best Darkseid. I'd also like to see how he can be incorporated into the current Superman film's storyline.

[Dope Nose]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=249172

[hippie_hunter]

I feel that a Superman film is below Darkseid. Justice League is the way to go for his use.

[Lead Cenobite]

With the way a lot of people are reacting at the news of a Justice League movie, I'd think it's the exact opposite, hippie_hunter. Besides, we're talking about Superman, the first superhero. Darkseid's not above that. :oldrazz:

[GreenKToo]

Brainiac as the main villain in M.O.S., but with a strong hint of Darkseid at the end to either set up J.L. or the 3rd Superman film.

[bgshw44]

Brainiac as the main villain in M.O.S., but with a strong hint of Darkseid at the end to either set up J.L. or the 3rd Superman film.


agreed, but if MOS makes big bucks i dont see wb scrapping a third to make a JLA film right away

[thegameq]

I feel that a Superman film is below Darkseid. Justice League is the way to go for his use.

ya know...I kinda agree. Darkseid is Galactus territory. Darkseid is bigger than just one character, one story. Way to complicated and it would require a major big screen presentation ($$$$$) to get all that encompasses Darkseid right.

I would love to see it, but as with Galactus: do it right or not at all. Frankly, I just don't see it happening. Darkseid would be a huge undertaking without scaling the character back big time.

[hippie_hunter]

Well, in my opinion, Darkseid should be far more powerful than Superman. Far more strategic and smarter than Dr. Doom. He's a freaking god for crying out loud. He should be used in a Justice League film.

[I Am The Knight]

He needs more setup.....I agree with the JL idea. He would be a great villain for the League to face.

[Gustavs01]

I would like to see Darkseid in a film, I do agree even he might be a bit to much for just Supes to take on, So if they ever did a Justice movie he would seem almost like a shoe in for the villian, and if that so Michael Clarke Duncan would be perfect he has a awesome voice plus he is a big guy, And I know some would say he is not tall enough well easy fix there remember how they made him look huge in the Green Mile?! There you go.

[Docker2.0]

Brainiac as the main villain in M.O.S., but with a strong hint of Darkseid at the end to either set up J.L. or the 3rd Superman film.

That's what I was thinking. Even throw a hint of him in TDK, don't show him but just throw a small bone that fanboys will know what it is about.

[EagleVision]

Sure, eventually I would love to see Darkseid, instead of Lex Luthor a million more times as a head villain. I'd also like seeing Doomsday, Brainiac, and Bizarro in a Supes film. And I don't think Mr. Mxyptzlk is a good on-screen villain for a Supes film, but he is one of Supes most toughest villians. Maybe they could make him work, but I doubt we'll ever see it.

[KaptainKrypton]

I'd love to see Darkseid on the big screen. If I had my druthers, though, it'd be in JLA. Mainly because I'd want his supporting cast of villains as foils for the League. It would be one hell of a sight to see Darkseid built to scale and looking like the ultimate tough guy zappin' foos with his Omega Effect.

[SuperDaniel]

Sure, eventually I would love to see Darkseid, instead of Lex Luthor a million more times as a head villain. I'd also like seeing Doomsday, Brainiac, and Bizarro in a Supes film. And I don't think Mr. Mxyptzlk is a good on-screen villain for a Supes film, but he is one of Supes most toughest villians. Maybe they could make him work, but I doubt we'll ever see it.

Have you ever read "Whatever happened to the man of tomorrow?" The great Alan Moore made the joke Mr Mxyzptlk into the most dangerous Superman villain ever.

[The Guard]

Darkseid can be done in one film. His IMPACT, like in the comics, should be felt through multiple films if he's a JLA villain, but he doesn't require massive setup to work well. It's not a complex story. It just involves putting the following elements in the script/onscreen.

Darkseid, his power, goals and motivations
Darkseid's minions (Desaad, Kalibak, Parademons, etc)
Apokolips, and its history with New Genesis
Darkseid's plot
Orion if you want to see him involved.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Always thought Dennis Haysbert has a great voice and facial shape for Darkseid if done right.

http://www.wvah.com/programs/24/dennishaysbert.jpg

[TBadora]

You all might think this sounds a bit wierd, but I have always thought that Randy Couture looks alot like Darkseid. If I had to pick a non-actor who looks alot like Darkseid I'd say it's Randy Couture. He's got the roughed up face, and the build, the only thing is his height and his voice. They can always make him look huge like they did with John Malkovich in 'Of Mice and Men'.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2929/darkseidiu7.png

http://www.supermansupersite.com/darkseid1.png

[Lobo]

Always thought Dennis Haysbert has a great voice and facial shape for Darkseid if done right.

http://www.wvah.com/programs/24/dennishaysbert.jpg

excellent casting idea :up:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

excellent casting idea :up:

Dream casting for me ever since I saw "Now and Again"

I think he's perfect for it ala Hellboy style (CGI not needed imo for Darkseid)

[Lobo]

Dream casting for me ever since I saw "Now and Again"

I think he's perfect for it ala Hellboy style (CGI not needed imo for Darkseid)

Dude :wow: , i made a thread in the JL forum over at TP and said the EXACT same thing :up:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Yeah it could really work well... But how often do they listen to us small time fans? :-/

[bgshw44]

i thought Hellboy loooked awful, definately CGI needed

[mythicalheroes]

Lets see if Darkseid sends Kalibak to destroy Superman and he will capture him and make him prisoner to his home of Apokolips. First of all Darkseid makes Kal-El a slave and gets beaten up by Kalibak. And throws him a dungeon to one of hungriest pets. Superman sees one of Darkseid's Gigantic beasts coming up to him and ready to eat him for dinner. Superman grabs a bone while he is grabbed by the clutches to the monster's hungry jaws.

[hippie_hunter]

This scene would be awesome for Darkseid:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x315/tsukiwriter/Comic%20Scans/RacerX-Countdown40-p13.jpg

[Hypestyle]

This scene would be awesome for Darkseid:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x315/tsukiwriter/Comic%20Scans/RacerX-Countdown40-p13.jpg


uh, wow.. he is a bastard.. it would be a great scene to include..

as far as actors.. ooh.. if they can convince Haysbert, fine..
other options:

Lawrence Fishburne
Michael Clarke Duncan

[hippie_hunter]

Fishbourne should be the Martian Manhunter.

[dark_b]

fishbournes voice is like 99% perfect for darkseid IMO.

[hippie_hunter]

No, that belongs to Michael Ironside.

Fishbourne's voice is 99.5% perfect for the Martian Manhunter.

[AndrewGilkison]

Michael Clark Duncan could potentially rock as Darkseid. Put him in make up, or give him the ILM "Davey Jones" treatment, and it could work.

[Sharkfestation]

Michael Clark Duncan could potentially rock as Darkseid. Put him in make up, or give him the ILM "Davey Jones" treatment, and it could work.
I would rather have the one and only Michael Ironside do Darkseid's voice. However, Michael Clark Duncan would be my second choice. I agree with you that ILM "Davy Jones" treatment would give Darkseid and other Superman villains like Brainiac and Doomsday justice. Some people say that using heavy make-up like Thing and Hellboy should be used to created Darkseid. It would only make Darkseid silly and pretty much take away the scariness of the character.

[Dangerous]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=249172

This thread is better.

[KrypJonian]

Much as I would love to see Darkseid in the JLA movie, I would rather see him in a two part Supes movie than anything, long as they make the Supes movies back to back

[kirbyfan]

Darkseid definitely belongs in a Superman movie, and he's the villian that they should use next!

It wouldn't take a whole lot to bring him to the screen, the costume is simple and it's one that doesn't need to be changed in anyway at all, unlike most superhero costumes.

Apokolips and the parademons could be done CGI, what's really interesting is who would you guys suggest to play Desaad. If you've got Darkseid you absolutely must have Desaad.

Man, this is the movie they should make no doubt about it, we're talking serious butt kicking action.

[Lead Cenobite]

I would rather have the one and only Michael Ironside do Darkseid's voice. However, Michael Clark Duncan would be my second choice. I agree with you that ILM "Davy Jones" treatment would give Darkseid and other Superman villains like Brainiac and Doomsday justice. Some people say that using heavy make-up like Thing and Hellboy should be used to created Darkseid. It would only make Darkseid silly and pretty much take away the scariness of the character.

Maybe Doomsday and Darkseid need to be CGI'ed, but why Brainiac? He's basically the same size as a human and the only really unusual thing about him is the green skin and diodes.

[Sharkfestation]

However, just painting the actor's skin green and puting bolts on his head would look silly on screen. The heavy make up like Thing and Hellboy wouldn't do the character justice as well.

[Sharkfestation]

Darkseid definitely belongs in a Superman movie, and he's the villian that they should use next!

It wouldn't take a whole lot to bring him to the screen, the costume is simple and it's one that doesn't need to be changed in anyway at all, unlike most superhero costumes.

Apokolips and the parademons could be done CGI, what's really interesting is who would you guys suggest to play Desaad. If you've got Darkseid you absolutely must have Desaad.

Man, this is the movie they should make no doubt about it, we're talking serious butt kicking action.

Jeffrey Combs as Desaad.

[hippie_hunter]

Much as I would love to see Darkseid in the JLA movie, I would rather see him in a two part Supes movie than anything, long as they make the Supes movies back to back

I'm sorry but Superman is below Darkseid. :o

Darkseid is a god and should be treated as such.

[Nelson]

what's really interesting is who would you guys suggest to play Desaad.

Might be a little too much Star Trek but Brent Spiner would make a good Desaad and Michael Dorn would be a good Kalabak

Darkseid and crew more than likely won't happen, but we can dream

[kirbyfan]

Yes we can, and Superman isn't below Darkseid. In the comics Darkseid is always trying to beat Superman, so why not in the movies?

This is the next Superman movie they should make, and we should try to let them know it.

[kirbyfan]

I disagree, Singer should put his hands all over Darkseid. Darkseid is what this weak and timid franchise needs.

[kirbyfan]

Fishburne is totallly wrong for Darkseid. MCD all the way, and Darkseid is the villian they should do next!

[The Joker_1000]

As said above, Michael Clarke Duncan could probably pull off Darkseid.

[The Joker_1000]

I agree that Laurence would be wrong as Darkseid & that MCD would be a better choice but Darkseid should be set-up towards the end of this film & should be the main villain in the third Superman movie.

[SuperDaniel]

I would do Darkseid like an intergalactic Hitler, with Apocolyps being like a huge concentration camp. Parallels with the 2nd world war and we`ll have a great movie.

[The Joker_1000]

No, he should stay the same as in the comics.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Again Dennis Haysbert.

Btw I wish there WAS a single official Darseid thread. We've had many before this one, and ones after :down

[Spiderine]

There is a good chance you could see Darkseid in a JLA movie.
Right where he belongs anyways.

[Spiderine]

I disagree, Singer should put his hands all over Darkseid. Darkseid is what this weak and timid franchise needs.
I don't know about that.

[The Joker_1000]

Well, I wouldn't mind if he didn't get in a Superman movie. As long as he gets into a movie period, I'm happy.

[hippie_hunter]

Darkseid definitely belongs in a Superman movie, and he's the villian that they should use next!

It wouldn't take a whole lot to bring him to the screen, the costume is simple and it's one that doesn't need to be changed in anyway at all, unlike most superhero costumes.

Apokolips and the parademons could be done CGI, what's really interesting is who would you guys suggest to play Desaad. If you've got Darkseid you absolutely must have Desaad.

Man, this is the movie they should make no doubt about it, we're talking serious butt kicking action.

In my opinion, Darkseid should be far more powerful than Superman and be more for him to handle on his own. Hence, the Justice League.

[TBadora]

What they can do is put darkseid in a Superman movie, in which Superman does not end up defeating Darkseid (ie: leave and open ending, or a 'to be continued' ending). In the sequel they can introduce Justice League which then helps Superman overcome and defeat Darkseid temporarily.

[kirbyfan]

Put Darkseid in all kinds of DC movies if you ask me, but he should be in the next Superman movie first.

[Sharkfestation]

Darkseid could die in the end of the movie. However, shouldn't Superman didn't kill him. He should be killed by the ship exploding like in Justice League episode,Twilight. Then he brought back to life by accident by the Legion of Doom in a sequel to the Justice League movie like in the JLU episodes, Alive and Destroyer. He then invades Earth and takes revenge on Superman.

[Silver Lantern]

My choice to play Lord Darksied is Michael Clarke Duncan. He has the muscle and the deep voice and the way he can bring the darkness to the character with the right effects and more would be awsome to see. I wouldnt want the main villain in Man of Steel to be him but a cameo from Darkseid where Supes fights him would be awsome.

[SUPERSEBAS]

Michael Clarke Duncan would be perfect !!!!!!!!!! he is big, have a deep voice and a good face to. :yay:

[markaudette]

The whole Superman movie franchise needs to open up it's universe a hell of a lot more.

For a charatcer that has ties to the universe itself and whose whole birthright spans the area of several galaxies, all the movies take place on just Earth and the moon. The creative department has one of the widest, most encompassing canvasses to build upon. But hasn't used practically any of it.

Well, if Superman is only as good as his villain, then Darkseid is one of the most logical choices.

[darkseid26]

i've heard they have casted me for Darkseid

[Matt]

Again Dennis Haysbert.

Btw I wish there WAS a single official Darseid thread. We've had many before this one, and ones after :down

Oh man, I've said it before JC, and I'll say it again. Your casting calls are spot on. Haysbert has the perfect voice.

[Matt]

Michael Clarke Duncan already played Kingpin in Daredevil.... Besides it's already been leaked that they ARE planning to put Darkseid in the movie played by Laurence Fishburne...

No it hasn't. :huh:

As for Fishburne, his voice is too soft.

[Matt]

Laurence is kinda...... small though.:ninja:

Size doesn't matter for the role. Chances are, Darkseid would be done like Davy Jones...where an actor provides movement and some facial features, but for the most part is CGI.

[Batman1987]

I pick the fat dude from "Lost" :o :o :o

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/media/L/lost/jorge.jpg

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Oh man, I've said it before JC, and I'll say it again. Your casting calls are spot on. Haysbert has the perfect voice.

:up: COOL

[The Joker_1000]

Darkseid needs to be really muscular & defined if he's in a Superman film. That's all I ask. Oh & that he has a really deep voice.

[Spike_x1]

Nope, he is apart of Superman's rouges gallery.Yeah, the same way that the Joker is. Sure, Darkseid's fought Superman before, but he shouldn't be considered a Superman rogue, unless all you've seen is the cartoon and the Jeph Loeb-written comics.

[The Joker_1000]

If he's fought Superman more than once & has been featured in stories with Superman, he's part of his rogue's gallery. Get over it.

[Spike_x1]

If he's fought Superman more than once & has been featured in stories with Superman, he's part of his rogue's gallery. Get over it.So Batman is a Superman rogue? :huh:

[ChickenScratch]

So where are the manips of MCD as Darkseid? So many have mentioned it, let's see it!

[The Joker_1000]

So Batman is a Superman rogue? :huh:

That's a really dumb comparison since Batman is a hero.

[Spike_x1]

That's a really dumb comparison since Batman is a hero.Hey, it's your definition of a Superman rogue, not mine.

[The Joker_1000]

No, my defintion of someone being in any heroes rogue gallery is if they've had a lot of bad blood with that hero & has even had storylines with that hero.

Anyway, I'd love to see Darkseid in the MOS movie, it'd be a real treat to get some fight scenes between Darkseid & Superman.

[Spike_x1]

This is the definition given earlier. Make up your mind.If he's fought Superman more than once & has been featured in stories with Superman, he's part of his rogue's gallery. Get over it.

[The Joker_1000]

Dude, I said the same thing twice, one was just longer & worded differently.

[Spike_x1]

Yeah, worded so differently that they're not the same definition.No, my defintion of someone being in any heroes rogue gallery is if they've had a lot of bad blood with that hero & has even had storylines with that hero.The second part of that definition is quite redundant, but whatever. I didn't expect much more from someone who thought Batman was a Superman rogue. :o

[The Joker_1000]

When did I ever say Batman is a Superman rogue? You need to learn how to read but until then, shut the hell up.

[Spike_x1]

Calm down, kiddo. You said it right here. I thought we'd already been over this. :huh:If he's fought Superman more than once & has been featured in stories with Superman, he's part of his rogue's gallery. Get over it.Those are the parameters you gave for someone being a Superman rogue. Get over it. :o

[The Joker_1000]

Dude, you obviously lack common sense. Batman is a superhero, Darkseid is a villain & whenever Superman & Batman have fought, it's been because one or the other was under mind control. Common sense is not something you can learn to have & you obviously don't have it.

[Spike_x1]

Says the person who actually thinks I've been serious this whole time. Talk about irony.

[The Joker_1000]

Don't care if you were serious or not.

[Spike_x1]

So? You're still a hypocritical idiot either way. Learn some common sense, sport. :o

[The Joker_1000]

Thanks for flaming me.

[Dew k. Mosi]

Both of you calm down or I will give you each a week off

[Spike_x1]

I'm calm; just laughing pretty hard. I'll stop picking on the kid, though. :up:

[The Joker_1000]

You're not picking on anyone, you're just making yourself look foolish.

[Spike_x1]

You're the one who came up with his faulty definition of a Superman rogue. All I did was point it out. Plus, you thought I was being serious apparently, and yet I'm supposedly the foolish one. :o

This is the last time I'll use your own flawed logic against you in this thread, however easy it may be. Any more childish comebacks you have for me will be ignored in this thread, so unless you're just trying to prove something by posting publicly, if you've got something more to say, PM me.

[TBadora]

That would be way too much for movie goers to grasp

[The Guard]

Explosions are so passe.

SUPERMAN
What are you doing?

ORION
Far too many worlds have suffered. I will not allow it to happen again.
Orion presses a series of studs on Mother Box.

An escalating PINGING noise, a ROLL OF THUNDER, and a WORMHOLE SPIRALS OPEN behind Darkseid. A VIOLENT VORTEX. Swirling WINDS and LIGHTNING. Darkseid regards Orion.

DARKSEID
You...are my son.

ORION
You have no son. You will have no empire.

Beneath his silver helm, hatred burns in Orion's eyes. Darkseid gazes at his son, defeated. Orion SNAPS open his blade. Then, grasping the weapon in both hands, Orion PLUNGES it into Darkseid's chest, driving it deep. Darkseid doesn't make a sound. He just LURCHES BACKWARD, the evil light beginning to fade from his amber eyes.

Orion watches his dying father STUMBLE toward the vortex. Darkseid, REELING, reaches up and grasps the spear in his massive hand. He glares out at Orion and the League.

DARKSEID
I...will not perish...I...cannot.

With a final feat of strength, Darkseid PULLS the spear from his chest and drops it, one hand covering his wound.

DARKSEID (CONT’D)
I...am a God.

ORION
Not anymore.

As life leaves him, Darkseid STAGGERS. And the force from the vortex
CATCHES HIM and SUCKS Darkseid’s limp form into the cosmos.

[TBadora]

very nice.

[The Guard]

There's a NEW GODS thread in the DC Films forum. Some interesting points. THE NEW GODS would make a hell of a franchise.

[Wally West]

I'd rather see Darkseid in JLA. But a galactic threat might be just what the superman returns sequel needs. Kal -El can fly off into space to handle Darkseid and ignore the questionable storylines from the previous film that await on Earth :)

[TBadora]

I'd rather see Darkseid in JLA. But a galactic threat might be just what the superman returns sequel needs. Kal -El can fly off into space to handle Darkseid and ignore the questionable storylines from the previous film that await on Earth :)

I, for one, have had enough of Lex Luthor. It's time to move onwards and upwards. :cool:

[Showtime]

The Official Darkseid Thread...

[Dark Knight]

Explosions are so passe.

SUPERMAN
What are you doing?

ORION
Far too many worlds have suffered. I will not allow it to happen again.
Orion presses a series of studs on Mother Box.

An escalating PINGING noise, a ROLL OF THUNDER, and a WORMHOLE SPIRALS OPEN behind Darkseid. A VIOLENT VORTEX. Swirling WINDS and LIGHTNING. Darkseid regards Orion.

DARKSEID
You...are my son.

ORION
You have no son. You will have no empire.

Beneath his silver helm, hatred burns in Orion's eyes. Darkseid gazes at his son, defeated. Orion SNAPS open his blade. Then, grasping the weapon in both hands, Orion PLUNGES it into Darkseid's chest, driving it deep. Darkseid doesn't make a sound. He just LURCHES BACKWARD, the evil light beginning to fade from his amber eyes.

Orion watches his dying father STUMBLE toward the vortex. Darkseid, REELING, reaches up and grasps the spear in his massive hand. He glares out at Orion and the League.

DARKSEID
I...will not perish...I...cannot.

With a final feat of strength, Darkseid PULLS the spear from his chest and drops it, one hand covering his wound.

DARKSEID (CONT’D)
I...am a God.

ORION
Not anymore.

As life leaves him, Darkseid STAGGERS. And the force from the vortex
CATCHES HIM and SUCKS Darkseid’s limp form into the cosmos.



Nice! :up:

[darkseid26]

yeah, I got my own thread!!! :grin::grin:

[GreenKToo]

This is a blast from the past.

[I Am The Knight]

Thanks for flaming me.

:hehe::grin::hehe::grin::hehe:

[xero1186]

This is how they should do Darkseid for a Superman film...

http://i37.tinypic.com/2yvjo7l.jpg

But Galactus is going to be a cloud so they should at least make Darkseid an anomaly of nature too.

:whatever:

[kirbyfan]

Darkseid should definitely be in the next Superman movie!

I like the idea of Darkseid coming to invade earth with his Parademons, Kalibak, Desaad, Kanto, Granny Goodness and Steppenwolf. Orion and Lightray show up to help Superman out, and this could be a trilogy for the Superman franchise.

[GreenKToo]

I think the former writers pitched Darkseid, and it was rejected by the brass at W.B.

[I Am The Knight]

I think the former writers pitched Darkseid, and it was rejected by the brass at W.B.

Morons, they are, I tell you.

[GreenKToo]

Yup. Prolly thought it was too sci fi or something.

[Nightwing1977]

If you ask me, I rather Darkseid be in JL film than Superman IMHO. It just he is almost more powerful than Superman, that he should face against more than one hero. Just like in JL toon on Cartoon Network. I want that kind of Darkseid.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

I would love to see Darkseid. That would give WB a darker Superman movie that they want but still sticking to what makes Superman, Superman.

[darkseid26]

this thread need pics.

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs22/i/2008/006/3/2/Darkseid_by_7th_Seal.jpg

http://www.comicbooknews.us/IMGs/supermanbatman42.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1609/supermanbatman13pg109es.jpg

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

this thread need pics.

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs22/i/2008/006/3/2/Darkseid_by_7th_Seal.jpg

http://www.comicbooknews.us/IMGs/supermanbatman42.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1609/supermanbatman13pg109es.jpg

What comic is that last pic from please?

I think Darkseid could work in a Superman movie, but not in the first one, he should be the mighty climax of a Superman franchise.

If he is in a Superman movie, him and Superman should fight 3 times, each time Superman tries to beat Darkseid with brute force, and loses badly, but at the end of the 3rd fight, Superman defeats Darkseid, ONLY by managing to turn his Omega Beams against him. This would be more than acceptable to Darkseid fans IMO, as I am one of them.

[darkseid26]

What comic is that last pic from please?

I think Darkseid could work in a Superman movie, but not in the first one, he should be the mighty climax of a Superman franchise.

If he is in a Superman movie, him and Superman should fight 3 times, each time Superman tries to beat Darkseid with brute force, and loses badly, but at the end of the 3rd fight, Superman defeats Darkseid, ONLY by managing to turn his Omega Beams against him. This would be more than acceptable to Darkseid fans IMO, as I am one of them.

last pics from Superman/Batman:supergirl pretty good read. :cwink:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

last pics from Superman/Batman:supergirl pretty good read. :cwink:

You wont believe this but I have that TPB waiting upstairs to be read. I'll have to give it a read, soon.

[BATZARRO WWD]

Darkseid and Apokolips have too much of their own mythology to carry out in a first movie, I think. I'd save Darkseid for the sequel.

[Lobo]

I'd prefer Darkseid in JLA or in the last Supes movie that leads into JLA either way, I'm a HUGE supporter of Dennis Haysbert for the role.

[GreenKToo]

Dennis Haysbert would be great.

Remember the guy from X-files that was always cast as the alien? Brian Thompson was his name. He'd make a good Darkseid as well IMO.

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0859921/

[Rust]

Tyler Mane with an enlarged prosthetic jaw and matching helmet.

http://www.filmedge.net/Halloween/graphix/TylerMane.jpg


Maybe voiced by Haysbert.

[VenomsMom]

I'd prefer Darkseid in JLA or in the last Supes movie that leads into JLA either way, I'm a HUGE supporter of Dennis Haysbert for the role.
Could not agree more. He should not set foot in the next Superman movie.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He just doesnt belong in the first movie, period, he needs to be built up for at least one movie before he actually appears IMO.

[Rust]

You're probably right. Brainiac it is then!

[S.A.A.D]

I think the former writers pitched Darkseid, and it was rejected by the brass at W.B.

I don't want to call you a liar,but what is your source for this info??

[Lobo]

^IESB reported Singer and Co wanted Darksied next but the powers that be felt he was too fantastical given how SR was.

[dark_b]

i think the problem was not the script. they just wanted to get rid of singer so they said NO.

[S.A.A.D]

^IESB reported Singer and Co wanted Darksied next but the powers that be felt he was too fantastical given how SR was.

Thanks man.


That blows,maybe they could have made a compromise. If they didn't of course. Let's hope Brainiac will be allowed to be used. I find Lex Luthor to be pretty boring to be honest. Superman deserves a better class of villians in his movies. :o :hehe:

[I Am The Knight]

Darkseid would have to be CGI. Isn't he huge like Hulk?

Normally he's not that huge. But definitely bigger than Superman.

[manofsteel4life]

i heard the reason why Singers pitch for Darkseid didnt fly was cause the story didnt fit with SR:huh:

[BATZARRO WWD]

Patrick Warburton in a suit for Darkseid!

Also, you guys are confusing me. I heard Singer wanted Zod(in another thread)

[I Am The Knight]

I don't think the Zod rumor had any thruth to it, honestly.

[Gamingboy]

Darkseid should not appear in a Superman movie, esp. the first one of a new series. If DC/WB is going the Marvel Route, however, it would be very wise to hint at Darkseid first in Superman movies only for him to show up in a JLA movie.


Intergang is the perfect way to do this. STAS did it right, how they slowly hinted at it by having Intergang show up. They're a gang with super-high-technology, and would be perfect for a "Just Another Day For Superman" Action Sequence, but could also be used for a main plot: suppose everyone thinks that Lex Luthor is providing them with the weapons (a good hypothesis). Lex could use these libelous accusations to his own good. Then some other threat (probably from Lex) would come up, and so Intergang would be pushed away from the forefront to be explored in a sequel. Or maybe for a cliff-hanger.

I mean, imagine this: Lex is in jail, and some SCU guys bring in some Intergang stuff. Lex studies it, and tells Superman and the SCU guys that he wishes he could have made this stuff, that it is clearly alien in origin. Ooooh, spooky.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Lex could be good in a Superman movie if used right (though I liked his portrayal in SR to be honest), but he needs Metallo or Bizarro with him to give Superman a physical threat.

[Gamingboy]

^Lex could be good in a Superman movie if used right (though I liked his portrayal in SR to be honest), but he needs Metallo or Bizarro with him to give Superman a physical threat.

I was sort of getting to that up there when I said that the threat was probably "from Lex", and not "Lex". He'd probably create Metallo or Bizarro or something.


Anyway, back to Darkseid. I think Darkseid may have been best summed up by Grant Morrison in the "Rock of Ages" arc. "Darkseid Is." There you go, Darkseid is literally the Dark Side. He's evil power incarnate. The only thing he can't control is life itself, which is why he wants the Anti-Life equation (which is paradoxically both extremely simple and extremely complex, sort of like PI).

Darkseid also cannot be defeated. He can be delayed. He can be stopped. But you can't throw him in jail, not even the source wall can contain him. But like our own dark sides, Darkseid will be back. He's a god, he's got time. So what if Superman slapped his ass to next Tuesday, Darkseid still has next Wednesday to try again. If the Justice League holds him off for this century, maybe the Legion of Superheroes will be less fortunate. Not even death can stop him, he's just that evil. And he's all kinds of evil: He's the corrupt evil, the chaotic evil, he's the necessary evil (just think of how horrible anybody to take his place would be!), and he's all the evils rolled together.

[thorstone]

Darkseid claims to be a god but this is his Satanic flaw, he believes that he is a god, destroyer of worlds, alpha, omega-- god just by sake of being present as Jehovah said to Moses, "I am." What further argument do you need.

The character is elemental, and the battle between he and Superman is the archetypal battle of Beowulf between nature and man-- in Beowulf, the dragon is slain but so is the hero.

I would develop this film with the idea of creating prequels-- not sequels. You jump into the middle of things like in Star Wars.


^IESB reported Singer and Co wanted Darksied next but the powers that be felt he was too fantastical given how SR was.


In Superman Returns he carves an island from the rock bed of the ocean and carries it into orbit-- that in my opinion is too fantastic.

[M.O.Steel]

you can't ever really get rid of lex. He's more than just a villain. He's more like a supporting character. yeah i agree he needs the tools which is where the supervillains come in.