FORZA2 Screens.

[Mentok]

4 new screenshots :up:

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/743/743956/imgs_1.html

[THWIP*]

4 new screenshots :up:

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/743/743956/imgs_1.html



I SAW THESE YESTERDAY.........ALONG WITH NEWS THAT'S IT'S NO LONGER AN '06 RELEASE. :mad:
THEY'LL BE ANNOUNCING THE NEW RELEASE DATE AT 'X06'. :o

[Mentok]

I was a tad upset that the date had slipped. It was looking like a bit of an expensive christmas anyway without adding FORZA2 and the new Steering Wheel package.

[WhatsHisFace]

At first I was looking at the real pictures, thinking that was what the graphics would be.

I was kinda let down. :(

[THWIP*]

At first I was looking at the real pictures, thinking that was what the graphics would be.

I was kinda let down. :(


IT STILL LOOKS GREAT........MUCH BETTER THAN 'FORZA 1'.

I JUST WISH 'MS' COULD MAKE A RACING GAME, THAT HAD REALISTIC LIGHTING ON THE CARS. ALL OF THE PGR GAMES, AND NOW BOTH FORZA GAMES, HAVE CARS THAT LOOK LIKE BIG SKITTLES, WITH WHEELS..........SHINY, PLASTIC-LOOKING, AND BOLD, BRIGHT COLORS. THEY NEVER SEEM TO GET THE "NATURAL" LIGHTING RIGHT, LIKE THEY CAN WITH SOME OTHER GENRES. :confused:
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT 'GT4' EXCELS IN........REALISTIC LIGHTING. THE REST IS MEDIOCRE, AND UNREALISTIC AS HELL. :o

[WhatsHisFace]

I think PGR always has really bright lighting, nothing wrong with that. And PGR is the best racing game ever. Gran Turismo is crapful. Forza is better than GT, but not as good as PGR. :(

Anyways, I think PGR3 has really good graphics. Spin that camera!

[THWIP*]

I think PGR always has really bright lighting, nothing wrong with that. And PGR is the best racing game ever. Gran Turismo is crapful. Forza is better than GT, but not as good as PGR. :(

Anyways, I think PGR3 has really good graphics. Spin that camera!


THEY JUST NEED TO INCORPORATE AN INTERNAL "FILTER", TO TAKE THE EDGE OFF OF THE CARS. IF YOU LOOK AT 'GT4', IT HAS AN ALMOST GRAINY LOOK......YET IT LOOKS MORE REALISTIC. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO A RACE.....OF ANY KIND.......YOU'D KNOW THAT THERE'S A TON OF DEBRIS AND POLLUTION IN THE AIR. YOU'LL NEVER SEE THE CARS THAT VIVIDLY. IT'S LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DAY-TIME SOAP OPERAS, AND BIG-BUDGET HOLLYWOOD MOVIES........THE CAMERA/LIGHTING IS WORLDS APART, BETWEEN THE TWO.

[WhatsHisFace]

So you want PGR: Killzone? :(

[THWIP*]

So you want PGR: Killzone? :(


NO......'KILLZONE' OVERUSED THE SMOKE/FOG EFFECTS TO COVER UP A SH**TY GAME, WITH EVEN SH**TIER GRAPHICS AND LEVEL DESIGN. 'GT4' JUST HAS SUPERIOR LIGHTING.........THE BEST ON THE 'PS2', AND MAYBE LAST-GEN, IMO.

AND THIS FROM A GUY WHO HAS CONSISTENTLY STATED HOW MUCH THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE SUCKS, GAMEPLAY-WISE. 'POLYPHONY DIGITAL' DOES AT LEAST KNOW HOW TO MAKE A REALISTIC LOOKING GAME. :o

[Fenrir]

The cars in PGR3 look as if they've just been taken out of the showroom floor - so clean, so pretty, so shiny, so beautiful...

[Addendum]

Looks good. If I liked racing games, I'd get it

[THWIP*]

The cars in PGR3 look as if they've just been taken out of the showroom floor - so clean, so pretty, so shiny, so beautiful...


EXACTLY......AND THE LIGHTING IS ALWAYS THE SAME. EVEN WITH REFLECTIONS, THE LIGHTING IS NEVER "REALISTIC"; IT HAS THE LOOK OF A FLUORESCENT LIGHTING.

[WhatsHisFace]

NO......'KILLZONE' OVERUSED THE SMOKE/FOG EFFECTS TO COVER UP A SH**TY GAME, WITH EVEN SH**TIER GRAPHICS AND LEVEL DESIGN. 'GT4' JUST HAS SUPERIOR LIGHTING.........THE BEST ON THE 'PS2', AND MAYBE LAST-GEN, IMO.

AND THIS FROM A GUY WHO HAS CONSISTENTLY STATED HOW MUCH THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE SUCKS, GAMEPLAY-WISE. 'POLYPHONY DIGITAL' DOES AT LEAST KNOW HOW TO MAKE A REALISTIC LOOKING GAME. :o
I'm pretty sure PGR has a lighting system that can blow every past GT game, as well as the upcoming PS3 one, out of the water.

Stencil shadows, soft shadows... I mean, have you ever walked around your garage? :eek:

[THWIP*]

I'm pretty sure PGR has a lighting system that can blow every past GT game, as well as the upcoming PS3 one, out of the water.

Stencil shadows, soft shadows... I mean, have you ever walked around your garage? :eek:




TECHNICALLY, YES.....IT'S SUPERIOR.........BUT THE LIGHTING IS STILL OFF. IT'S A VERY BASIC THING, THAT STANDS OUT (TO ME, ANYWAY), IN SPITE OF ALL THE OTHER AWESOME EFFECTS BEING USED/DISPLAYED.

[Fenrir]

I'm pretty sure PGR has a lighting system that can blow every past GT game, as well as the upcoming PS3 one, out of the water.

Stencil shadows, soft shadows... I mean, have you ever walked around your garage? :eek:

Exactly. I mean, the lighting and reflection in PGR3 is pretty much the best part of the visuals. Look at how the cars look in your first barn garage, then see how different the lighting and reflection are when you get the big mansion garage - especially when you put your rides outdoor. I mean, I had taken a couple of snaps of my McLaren F1 in the mansion garage outside and a friend of mine was flabbergasted as to how real it looked to him.

[THWIP*]

Exactly. I mean, the lighting and reflection in PGR3 is pretty much the best part of the visuals. Look at how the cars look in your first barn garage, then see how different the lighting and reflection are when you get the big mansion garage - especially when you put your rides outdoor. I mean, I had taken a couple of snaps of my McLaren F1 in the mansion garage outside and a friend of mine was flabbergasted as to how real it looked to him.


THE PROBLEM IS, THEY LOOK THE SAME DURING THE RACE, AS THEY DO IN THE GARAGE......WHICH IS EXACTLY MY POINT WITH THE "FLUORESCENT LIGHTING" COMMENT. :confused:

[WhatsHisFace]

TECHNICALLY, YES.....IT'S SUPERIOR.........BUT THE LIGHTING IS STILL OFF. IT'S A VERY BASIC THING, THAT STANDS OUT (TO ME, ANYWAY), IN SPITE OF ALL THE OTHER AWESOME EFFECTS BEING USED/DISPLAYED.
That's a very "Zenien" thing of you to say.

[Fenrir]

THE PROBLEM IS, THEY LOOK THE SAME DURING THE RACE, AS THEY DO IN THE GARAGE......WHICH IS EXACTLY MY POINT WITH THE "FLUORESCENT LIGHTING" COMMENT. :confused:

The cars look shiny, yes, but the reflection and lighting during the race are dependent upon the track itself. You won't see "flourescent lighting" during evening and night time. This is especially evident when you get your third garage.

[THWIP*]

That's a very "Zenien" thing of you to say.


WEIRD, HUH? AND YET, WE'D STILL DISAGREE, EVEN ON THIS SUBJECT; SHE CAN'T STAND TO ADMIT I'M RIGHT. :dry:


BTW........I THINK IT'S CUTE HOW SHE THINKS SHE'S FOOLING EVERYONE WITH HER 'ARAN' ACCOUNT. :o

[THWIP*]

The cars look shiny, yes, but the reflection and lighting during the race are dependent upon the track itself. You won't see "flourescent lighting" during evening and night time. This is especially evident when you get your third garage.


http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/6742/duhgarfieldss3.jpg

[TheCardPlayer]

Am I alone thinking that this could run on XBox?

[THWIP*]

Am I alone thinking that this could run on XBox?


YES........IF YOU COMPARE THIS, TO 'FORZA'.......WHICH PUSHED THE 'XBOX' PRETTY HARD.......THERE'S NO F***ING WAY THIS COULD RUN ON IT. THEY'RE DOING FULL DAMAGE MODELING AND PHYSICS, THIS TIME.....NOT THAT SIMULATED BULLS**T THEY DID WITH THE FIRST ONE. COMBINE THAT WITH MUCH HIGHER POLYS, BETTER TEXTURES, ETC......WELL YOU GET THE IDEA. :o

[TheCardPlayer]

I don't know...I think it looks slightly crappy...That's all.

[THWIP*]

I don't know...I think it looks slightly crappy...That's all.



THOSE ARE THE FIRST SCREENS THEY'VE RELEASED........YOU SHOULD CHECK OUT THE GAMEPLAY VIDEOS (I'VE GOT A THREAD SOMEWHERE IN THE 'MS' SECTION).

[WhatsHisFace]

WEIRD, HUH? AND YET, WE'D STILL DISAGREE, EVEN ON THIS SUBJECT; SHE CAN'T STAND TO ADMIT I'M RIGHT. :dry:


BTW........I THINK IT'S CUTE HOW SHE THINKS SHE'S FOOLING EVERYONE WITH HER 'ARAN' ACCOUNT. :o
Aran should be banned, bombed and beaten.

[Topdawg]

I think its a good thing they delayed it, the screens were kinda dissapointing.

[Mentok]

YES........IF YOU COMPARE THIS, TO 'FORZA'.......WHICH PUSHED THE 'XBOX' PRETTY HARD.......THERE'S NO F***ING WAY THIS COULD RUN ON IT. THEY'RE DOING FULL DAMAGE MODELING AND PHYSICS, THIS TIME.....NOT THAT SIMULATED BULLS**T THEY DID WITH THE FIRST ONE. COMBINE THAT WITH MUCH HIGHER POLYS, BETTER TEXTURES, ETC......WELL YOU GET THE IDEA. :o

The Full damage model effects everything with the car... Thats going to be awesome.

The PS3 Gran Turismo wont even have a simulated damage model :down

[THWIP*]

The Full damage model effects everything with the car... Thats going to be awesome.

The PS3 Gran Turismo wont even have a simulated damage model :down


YEAH, IT'S JUST AN HD PORT OF GT4........LAME X INFINITY. :down:o


BTW..........WHAT THE F*** HAPPENED TO YOU TONIGHT? :mad: :confused: :(

[Mentok]

BTW..........WHAT THE F*** HAPPENED TO YOU TONIGHT? :mad: :confused: :(

EVERYTHING happened to me :( :down :erotic:

I will 100% totally be on tomorrow.

[Mentok]

http://xs305.xs.to/xs305/06355/5d63d47474f57ea87d420c179fb4088a.jpg

[Mentok]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/tomchoucrew/forza20.jpg

[Mentok]

Looks great...

Remember it will be running at 720p and 60fps. Add the HDR lighting that is lacking from these screens and you have a game that will looks absolutley stunning.

[Mentok]

Q: We’ve announced that FM2 will be 60fps at 720p. Can you talk a bit about some of the other techniques we’ll be employing to make FM2 look next-gen?

JW: "We’re really taking full advantage of the immense graphics horsepower of the Xbox 360 to do some incredible things visually. Of course we’re 60fps at 720p, as you mention, but we’re also adding effects and features such as 4X anti-aliasing (no jaggies!), motion blur, high dynamic range lighting, global illumination and per-pixel car reflections updated at full frame rate. I could go on and on. Really a ton of stuff. Too much to list here."

Q: Actually, we should probably stop here or else we'll get caught by the fuzz. So are all the cars and tracks getting a boost in polygon counts in the models?

JW: "For sure. Nothing is making it into FM2 without significant work to make it truly "next-gen." This includes not only considerably more polygons but also a lot more texture resolution. This meant that we had to go back and recreate a lot of our textures from scratch, no simple “up-scaling” here. I can’t stand it when games combine new content that is of a noticeably higher visual quality and detail with older content that shipped in the last version."

Plenty of detail.

[WhatsHisFace]

Well, if the graphics took a cut for 60 fps, that's a noble justification. I think they could be a lot better though. I mean, just look at Forza 1. :(

They actually look the same. :(

[Mentok]

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/609/609884/forza-motorsport-20050506040413132.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/609/609884/forza-motorsport-20050503063616051.jpg

Now no more 'It looks like FORZA1' talk :cmad:

[AgentDenton]

You guys are insane if you think that looks like Forza 1. That last "Forza 2" shot Mentok posted was insane. I hate racing games, so I'm not going to bother with this, but the game is certainly graphically impressive.