View Full Version : Nolan better listen to bat-Fans!
saint sinner x
09-07-2006, 03:04 AM
Ok first of all I just read an interview of Chris Nolan stating this, "I make films that I think would be fun and interesting to watch and I just assume that there are other people like me out there."
I got extremely pissed off at that moment. I know many of you think that Chris Nolan is a god and that he's the best director ever but listen the only reason Batman Begins was successful is because it was an origin story, which we never seen a live interpretation of. Nolan did many things in the movie that I didn't agree with For instance: Batmobile chase, the fighting, the editing, the action and of course katie holmes. I hope Nolan hears batfans because I'm sure that most of you agree with me that the visual style for Batman Begins was boring and plain. He said he will change things up I'm starting to get worried I hope he makes the dark knight a sophisticaded summer blockbuster film, seriously it's the danm Batman, Batman is not a drama queen he's a freakin bad ass.
PLEASE NOLAN MAKE IT MORE COMICAL WITH REALISTIC ELEMENTS INSTEAD OF VICE VERSA. DARK, BRUTAL, EYE CANDY, AND OF COURSE BAD ASS WITH IMPACT!
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=16328
Poetic Chaos
09-07-2006, 03:14 AM
No he should listen to people who actually make movies and comics for a living. Not fanboys who don't know ***** about the industry of making films.
Superman Prime
09-07-2006, 03:15 AM
Chill. The. Hell. Out.
If you didn't like what he did this time, give him a second chance. I trust in him.
Ender Durden
09-07-2006, 03:38 AM
david goyer is fanboy enough. they both make the perfect team. yea, take a chill pill homie
Bathead
09-07-2006, 04:11 AM
Spare me. If Nolan was to listen to fans like I've seen on this and other boards, the only thing familiar left about Batman's world, would be the names.The only people he should be listening to is Goyer and Robinson.
Octoberist
09-07-2006, 04:52 AM
the guy sounds like a desperate guy who needs attention. It's a joke so people should even waste their time with this nerdy fellow.
jimmy
09-07-2006, 05:00 AM
We'll just have to wait until it comes out now, won't we?
heypapajinx
09-07-2006, 05:07 AM
i think everyone is right. Goyer and DC are the only people that he needs to be consulting with. i don't think he thinks "i'm a god" (like Alec Baldwin did in that one movie), but i digress. i think he KNOWS he's on the right track. and plus, if he listened to fans like me, the movies wouldn't be anything but scene after scene of Bale nudity, and a fight scene here and there.
that's right.
i said it.
Fenrir
09-07-2006, 05:11 AM
The fans are a superstitious and cowardly lot that never agree on anything and often have absurd ideas. If any comicbook movie director ever "listened to his fans" while making a movie, he'll never get one made. If Nolan is already consulting with the guys at DC who helped create and nourish this great character and his universe, screw what the fans think.
CConn
09-07-2006, 05:15 AM
the guy sounds like a desperate guy who needs attention. It's a joke so people shouldn't even waste their time with this nerdy fellow.Hmm. Y'know...you're right. So instead of replying to him, I'll reply to some random dude's sig. :up:
* Superman doesn't have the time to be a father. Either he is a devoted father, or he is no father at all. And he can't be devoted to his son, because he is too busy being SUPERMAN!I wouldn't quite say that. Firstly, in real life there are fathers in many lines of work that take them away from their children for very long periods of time - soilders being the most notable. And would you say they're not devoted parents simply because they are - quite admirably - giving large amounts of them time away another good cause? Of course not.
Secondly, and most importantly...you could apply that "he doesn't have time" logic to anything Clark Kent does. "He can't be a devoted husband and Superman!" But he is. "He can't be a successful investigative reporter and Superman!" But, again, he is. Is it unrealistic, a bit illogical? Maybe. But certainly no more so than a dude who can hide himself from the whole world by putting on a pair of glasses.
Octoberist
09-07-2006, 05:19 AM
yes yes, carry on!
The Kid
09-07-2006, 06:16 AM
Don't listen to anyone but me!
El Payaso
09-07-2006, 08:34 AM
Please Nolan don't listen to any of the fans words.
david goyer is fanboy enough. they both make the perfect team. yea, take a chill pill homie
That explains the one liners.
7Hells
09-07-2006, 11:07 AM
What would a comic book adaptation be without one liners?
Mr. Thing
09-07-2006, 11:12 AM
I'm not that bothered about the action to be honest.
El Payaso
09-07-2006, 11:59 AM
What would a comic book adaptation be without one liners?
A great movie. :)
kenellard
09-07-2006, 12:12 PM
I'm not that bothered about the action to be honest.
wow, my monocle fell into my champagne glass when I read that. are you serious? You do realise we're talking about an upcoming BATMAN movie right? If you want pure psychological drama go watch "Memento" which is obviously in another league entirely compared to begins on that front. jeez, fans really don't know what they want!
Mr. Thing
09-07-2006, 12:34 PM
wow, my monocle fell into my champagne glass when I read that. are you serious? You do realise we're talking about an upcoming BATMAN movie right? If you want pure psychological drama go watch "Memento" which is obviously in another league entirely compared to begins on that front. jeez, fans really don't know what they want!
Sorry, I meant to say more action. I thought the amount of action in BB was just fine. I should really check my posts more...
Motown Marvel
09-07-2006, 01:16 PM
when directors of comic book films listen and pander to comic book fans, you end up with bulls#!t like X3....shudder.
Fenrir
09-07-2006, 01:21 PM
wow, my monocle fell into my champagne glass when I read that. are you serious? You do realise we're talking about an upcoming BATMAN movie right? If you want pure psychological drama go watch "Memento" which is obviously in another league entirely compared to begins on that front. jeez, fans really don't know what they want!
Two of the best Batman/Joker stories ever written (in my humble opinion) - Arkham Asylum and The Killing Joke barely have any action at all and are pretty much pure pschological drama.
Although I'm not advocating for little or no action (that would be absurd), I'm just pointing out why some fans wouldn't prioritize it the way others do.
Nolan's not listening to batfans, he's reading the things that matter: the comics. He understands them more than so-called 'fanboys' on this forum, myself included. Let the professional do his bloody job.
It's funny. People are going to be skeptical and suspicious of Nolan and The Dark Knight for a while. And rest assure, when the movie comes out those people will alter their attitudes with congratulatory comments like "It was the best movie ever!" and "Nolan rocks!".
I guarantee it.
patrickbateman
09-07-2006, 02:11 PM
leak the script
Cinemaman
09-07-2006, 02:12 PM
the guy sounds like a desperate guy who needs attention. It's a joke so people should even waste their time with this nerdy fellow.
Truth is thruth.
ROBOCOP CPU001
09-07-2006, 02:17 PM
I think the hype should listen to us fans and stay away from this thread.
Its depressing to think that after the master peice Batman film that was begins..there is still one idiot who persists in trying to say the fans know best.
we dont.
Two-Face
09-07-2006, 02:22 PM
It is impossible to please fans because everybody has different image of Batman or favourite things about him so Nolan can't listen all of us.
ROBOCOP CPU001
09-07-2006, 02:28 PM
It is impossible to please fans because everybody has different image of Batman or favourite things about him so Nolan can't listen all of us.
Exactly:batty:
Superman Prime
09-07-2006, 02:56 PM
Hmm. Y'know...you're right. So instead of replying to him, I'll reply to some random dude's sig. :up:
I wouldn't quite say that. Firstly, in real life there are fathers in many lines of work that take them away from their children for very long periods of time - soilders being the most notable. And would you say they're not devoted parents simply because they are - quite admirably - giving large amounts of them time away another good cause? Of course not.
Secondly, and most importantly...you could apply that "he doesn't have time" logic to anything Clark Kent does. "He can't be a devoted husband and Superman!" But he is. "He can't be a successful investigative reporter and Superman!" But, again, he is. Is it unrealistic, a bit illogical? Maybe. But certainly no more so than a dude who can hide himself from the whole world by putting on a pair of glasses.
Well, that's just it. He has managed to live a life as a reporter, but BARELY. How is he supposed to be Superman - Father. Superman - Hero. Clark Kent - Reporter. Clark Kent - Daily life?
There are only so many things you can fit into your life before you're going to mess up and everyone will find your secret. Plus, even if Superman could visit Jason once in a while, what the hell is he going to do about Richard? Walk up to Jason and say: "You know Richard? The guy who is married to your mom? Yeah. He's not your real dad. I am. Come here, son."
NYUCK NYUCK! HAHA! :joker:
If Nolan listened to the fans we'd have Kevin Conroy as Batman with Mark Hamill as Joker. Then we'd have a seventeen hour movie with no coherent plot or script with Joker cutting people's faces open, recruiting Dawes as Harley Quinn and have Batman fighting Superman.........
Morgoth
09-07-2006, 03:24 PM
Ok first of all I just read an interview of Chris Nolan stating this, "I make films that I think would be fun and interesting to watch and I just assume that there are other people like me out there."
I got extremely pissed off at that moment. I know many of you think that Chris Nolan is a god and that he's the best director ever but listen the only reason Batman Begins was successful is because it was an origin story, which we never seen a live interpretation of. Nolan did many things in the movie that I didn't agree with For instance: Batmobile chase, the fighting, the editing, the action and of course katie holmes. I hope Nolan hears batfans because I'm sure that most of you agree with me that the visual style for Batman Begins was boring and plain. He said he will change things up I'm starting to get worried I hope he makes the dark knight a sophisticaded summer blockbuster film, seriously it's the danm Batman, Batman is not a drama queen he's a freakin bad ass.
PLEASE NOLAN MAKE IT MORE COMICAL WITH REALISTIC ELEMENTS INSTEAD OF VICE VERSA. DARK, BRUTAL, EYE CANDY, AND OF COURSE BAD ASS WITH IMPACT!
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=16328I agree. The first was boring and dull. Could've been better.
I hope it looks better. And the Joker had better look like the Joker.
ultimatefan
09-07-2006, 03:55 PM
Well, I don´t agree with any of this, and if there´s something I learned from SHH boards is there´s more of a point in trying to get Israel to get along with Arabs than to please all fanboys. Nolan has pleased most fans, which is a monstrous task in itself, and the minority of disgruntled ones who´ll ***** and moan, endlessly for years, well, they´ll always exist, Nolan doesn´t need and won´t bother.
batboy99
09-07-2006, 04:16 PM
Nolan did many things in the movie that I didn't agree with For instance: Batmobile chase, the fighting, the editing, the action and of course katie holmes.your opinion,you shouldnt be speaking for all bat-fans
StorminNorman
09-07-2006, 04:22 PM
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dark_b
09-07-2006, 04:24 PM
in nolan we trust.
StorminNorman
09-07-2006, 04:27 PM
If you want a movie made by the fans, watch Snakes On A Plane. If you want a great film - watch a Nolan-made film.
CConn
09-07-2006, 04:34 PM
Well, that's just it. He has managed to live a life as a reporter, but BARELY. How is he supposed to be Superman - Father. Superman - Hero. Clark Kent - Reporter. Clark Kent - Daily life?
There are only so many things you can fit into your life before you're going to mess up and everyone will find your secret.And I say again, the idea of Superman being able to juggle all of those things is anymore ridiculous than him being able to hide behind a pair of glasses?
Plus, even if Superman could visit Jason once in a while, what the hell is he going to do about Richard? Walk up to Jason and say: "You know Richard? The guy who is married to your mom? Yeah. He's not your real dad. I am. Come here, son."
NYUCK NYUCK! HAHA! :joker:Oh, you're talking about the movie relationship specifically rather than just the principle of Superman having a child? Well, in that case, I don't see how his relationship with his son would be any different from any other father who's no longer with their child's mother. Not to mention, Superman's relationship with his own biological father is rather similar to the one he would have with Jason.
thorstone
09-07-2006, 04:57 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/Thriller/The_Prestige/prestige3.jpg
That is picture is really worth a thousand words.
ultimatefan
09-07-2006, 04:57 PM
I can understand fans want to be heard but I don't want Nolan making the movie based off of what we want because I have seen plenty of stupid ideas on these boards that I don't want to happen. I don't think Nolan is the greatest director ever or a God or anything but I thought he did a good job with Batman Begins. True there were parts I didn't like but overall it was good. I trust that he'll do just as good a job with The Dark Knight.
Me too, sometimes the fanboys can come up with stuff that would make Schumacher himself cringe...
Chaos Bringer
09-07-2006, 05:08 PM
What would a comic book adaptation be without one liners?
enjoyable.
7Hells
09-07-2006, 05:34 PM
bah, good one liners are what movies are all about.
They make you laugh, feel connected to the production, serve as a metaphor for the character, and remind you how cool the character is.
Which is exactly what "nice coat" did unless you took the movie too seriously.
In which case, its just a movie...
I love well written one liners in movies as much as I love them in comics.
Im Batman.
batmaluco
09-07-2006, 06:28 PM
It is impossible to please fans because everybody has different image of Batman or favourite things about him so Nolan can't listen all of us.
Totally agreed.
The fact is that there are so many different depictions for Batman in comics, that in the end is the kind of mix that he or any other director do with all the reference material, the choices that he make, is what it counts.
In the end it is impossible to please everybody, not even Jesus did that.
theShape
09-07-2006, 06:45 PM
This is just the stupidest thread.
7Hells
09-07-2006, 06:46 PM
In the end it is impossible to please everybody, not even Jesus did that.
Thats because Jesus didnt cast Christian Bale as Batman :D
theShape
09-07-2006, 06:50 PM
There seem to be a lot of them in The Dark Knight section for some reason.
I know. That's why I only come here to look for news currently.
saint sinner x
09-07-2006, 07:29 PM
First of I just wanted to say is what's up with the name calling? There's no need to start name calling and it is not neccesary, if I rattled some heads in here then I apologize it was not intentional. We and I speak for everybody in here, we are the ones who decides if the next Batman film is a success or not ok we're Nolan's boss because it's the audience who determines if the movie will be a hit or not. Nolan is not a proffesional in my book I consider a proffesional someone who's been in the business and made numerous successful films such as: Martin Scorssese, Spike Lee, Quinton Tarintino, and Peter Jackson. Nolan is a rookie in my book he's made 3 mayor films and memento wasn't even that big, Insomnia sucked and Batman Begins rocks but it had many many mistakes. Nolan should at least listened to the majority of batfans, and I would of prefer david goyer's script over Nolan's remade script of Batman Begins because they did cut out alot of bad ass sequence in the final draft. So that comment that I saw about Nolan should listened to the advisors is irrevelant because jonathan and chris will re-write the script into a less theatrical screenplay.
Nolan is no god niether a proffesional that he my opinion but I do have one question to ask some of you, If Batman1989 would of introduced the Batman would of you liked it better than Batman Begins?
Quinton Tarintino,
Hasn't he only made about four films, and many would argue highly plagarised ones at that!
Of course Nolan is a professional!!!
CConn
09-07-2006, 07:39 PM
Nolan is no god niether a proffesional that he my opinion but I do have one question to ask some of you, If Batman1989 would of introduced the Batman would of you liked it better than Batman Begins?I already like B89 better. :meow:
Nolan has now made 4, going on 5 films. All of which have been well recieved (Insomnia included). And Memento specifically was nominated for an academy award for writing. If you don't consider a director who's done all of that a professional, you really haven't a clue what a professional is.
Oh, and yeah, Tarantino has directed 5 films - the same number Nolan will have directed once The Prestige is released.
theShape
09-07-2006, 07:45 PM
First of I just wanted to say is what's up with the name calling? There's no need to start name calling and it is not neccesary, if I rattled some heads in here then I apologize it was not intentional. We and I speak for everybody in here, we are the ones who decides if the next Batman film is a success or not ok we're Nolan's boss because it's the audience who determines if the movie will be a hit or not. Nolan is not a proffesional in my book I consider a proffesional someone who's been in the business and made numerous successful films such as: Martin Scorssese, Spike Lee, Quinton Tarintino, and Peter Jackson. Nolan is a rookie in my book he's made 3 mayor films and memento wasn't even that big, Insomnia sucked and Batman Begins rocks but it had many many mistakes. Nolan should at least listened to the majority of batfans, and I would of prefer david goyer's script over Nolan's remade script of Batman Begins because they did cut out alot of bad ass sequence in the final draft. So that comment that I saw about Nolan should listened to the advisors is irrevelant because jonathan and chris will re-write the script into a less theatrical screenplay.
Nolan is no god niether a proffesional that he my opinion but I do have one question to ask some of you, If Batman1989 would of introduced the Batman would of you liked it better than Batman Begins?
What a load of bull****.
7Hells
09-07-2006, 07:50 PM
I wasnt even going to reply to it.
Except to reply that I wasnt going to reply...
saint sinner x
09-07-2006, 08:18 PM
I already like B89 better. :meow:
Nolan has now made 4, going on 5 films. All of which have been well recieved (Insomnia included). And Memento specifically was nominated for an academy award for writing. If you don't consider a director who's done all of that a professional, you really haven't a clue what a professional is.
Oh, and yeah, Tarantino has directed 5 films - the same number Nolan will have directed once The Prestige is released.
I already like B89 better. :meow:
Nolan has now made 4, going on 5 films. All of which have been well recieved (Insomnia included). And Memento specifically was nominated for an academy award for writing. If you don't consider a director who's done all of that a professional, you really haven't a clue what a professional is.
Oh, and yeah, Tarantino has directed 5 films - the same number Nolan will have directed once The Prestige is released.
Lol your hilarious by crediting Nolan because memento was nominated for an academy award FOR WRITING, Last time I check it was Nolan and his Brother Jonathan who colloborated on the screen writing of memento. The same thing could be said about Batman Begins it was David Goyer and Nolan who colloborated on the film and I definetly liked Goyer's vision better than Nolan's vision. As for Quantin Tarantino he directed and wrote "Kill Billl vol.1" and just for the record it recieved 39 nominations and 12wins. Quantin wrote and directed it on his own he didn't need an extra hand. Trust me Quantin has a longer resume then Nolan, Quantin has written the script for "Jackie Brown", he wrote the screenplay for "From dusk till dawn" he did the story for "Natural Born Killers" as well as "True Romance" and "Pulp Fiction". He also collaborated on "Sin City" with robert rodriguez and frank miller.
Oh and by the way You don't have a clue on what a proffesional is.
Let's see if you can see the difference between Tarantino's work and Nolan's work:
Quantin Tarintino
Inglorious Bastards (2007) (announced)
Grind House (2007) (filming) (segment "Death Proof")
... aka Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof (USA: poster title)
... aka Robert Rodriguez's Planet Terror (USA: poster title)
"CSI: Crime Scene Investigation"
... aka C.S.I. (USA: short title)
... aka CSI: Las Vegas (USA: syndication title)
... aka CSI: Weekends (USA: promotional title)
... aka Experts, Les (Canada: French title)
- Grave Danger: Part 1 (2005) TV Episode
- Grave Danger: Part 2 (2005) TV Episode
Sin City (2005) (special guest director)
... aka Frank Miller's Sin City (USA: complete title)
"Jimmy Kimmel Live" (1 episode 2004)
- Episode dated 20 April 2004 (2004) TV Episode
Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004)
... aka Kill Bill (USA: closing credits title)
... aka Kill Bill 2 (USA: informal title)
Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
... aka Kill Bill (USA: informal short title)
... aka Kill Bill 1 (USA: informal title)
... aka Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill: Volume One (USA: promotional title)
Jackie Brown (1997)
Four Rooms (1995) (segment "The Man from Hollywood")
"ER"
- Motherhood (1995) TV Episode
Pulp Fiction (1994)
Reservoir Dogs (1992)
My Best Friend's Birthday (1987)
Filmography as: Actor, Producer, Miscellaneous Crew, Writer, Director, Soundtrack, Editor, Self, Archive Footage
Soundtrack - filmography
Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004) (writer: "The Legend of Pai Mai")
... aka Kill Bill (USA: closing credits title)
... aka Kill Bill 2 (USA: informal title)
Filmography as: Actor, Producer, Miscellaneous Crew, Writer, Director, Soundtrack, Editor, Self, Archive Footage
Editor - filmography
My Best Friend's Birthday (1987)
Filmography as: Actor, Producer, Miscellaneous Crew, Writer, Director, Soundtrack, Editor, Self, Archive Footage
Self - filmography
(2000s) (1990s)
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"Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List"
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Make Your Own Damn Movie! (2005) (V) .... Himself
Sin City: The Premiere (2005) (TV) .... Himself
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Tsunami Aid: A Concert of Hope (2005) (TV) .... Himself
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Planet of the Pitts (2004) .... Himself
The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing (2004) .... Himself
A Conversation with Quentin Tarantino & Scott Spiegel (2004) (V) .... Himself
'Pulp Fiction' on a Dime: A 10th Anniversary Retrospect (2004) (TV) (also archive footage) .... Himself
2004 MTV Movie Awards (2004) (TV) .... Himself - Presenter
"Filmland"
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Z Channel: A Magnificent Obsession (2004) (TV) .... Himself
"Tracks"
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John Travolta: The Inside Story (2004) (TV) .... Himself
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"On-Air with Ryan Seacrest"
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Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004) (voice) (uncredited) .... Himself
... aka Kill Bill (USA: closing credits title)
... aka Kill Bill 2 (USA: informal title)
"American Idol: The Search for a Superstar"
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- Episode #3.27 (2004) TV Episode .... Himself
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The Making of 'Kill Bill: Volume 2' (2004) (TV) .... Himself
Double Dare (2004) .... Himself
The 46th Annual Grammy Awards (2004) (TV) .... Himself (Presenter)
"Silenci?"
- Episode dated 18 January 2004 (2004) TV Episode .... Himself
Épreuves d'artistes (2004) .... Himself
... aka Words in Progress (International: English title)
"Charlotte Roche trifft..."
- Quentin Tarantino: Teil 2 (2003) TV Episode .... Himself
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"Rove Live"
- Episode #4.36 (2003) TV Episode .... Himself
"Extra"
... aka Extra: The Entertainment Magazine (USA)
- Episode dated 15 October 2003 (2003) TV Episode .... Himself
"Friday Night with Jonathan Ross"
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The Making of 'Kill Bill' (2003) (TV) .... Himself
"The Tonight Show with Jay Leno"
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"Tinseltown TV"
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2003 ABC World Stunt Awards (2003) (TV) (uncredited) .... Himself
"Biography"
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- Samuel L. Jackson (1999) TV Episode .... Himself
The Class of '92 (2002) (V) .... Himself
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Jackie Brown: How It Went Down (2002) (V) .... Himself
Pulp Fiction: The Facts (2002) (V) .... Himself
Baadasssss Cinema (2002) (TV) .... Himself
All the Love You Cannes! (2002) .... Himself
Sundance 20 (2002) .... Himself
Once Upon a Time: Sergio Leone (2001) (V) .... Himself
Zehn Gebote der Kreativität, Die (2001) (TV) .... Himself
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"Music Behind the Scenes" (2001) (mini) TV Series .... Himself
Hollywood Goes to Hell (2000) (TV) .... Himself
"The E! True Hollywood Story"
- Christopher Jones (1999) TV Episode .... Himself
Intimate Portrait: Pam Grier (1999) (TV) .... Himself
Forever Hollywood (1999) (TV) .... Himself
Jackie Chan: My Story (1998) (V) .... Himself
"Mundo VIP"
- Show nº98 (1998) TV Episode .... Himself
God Said, 'Ha!' (1998) .... Himself
"The Charlie Rose Show"
- Episode dated 26 December 1997 (1997) TV Episode .... Himself
- Episode dated 21 August 1995 (1995) TV Episode .... Himself
Off the Menu: The Last Days of Chasen's (1997) (uncredited) .... Himself
Full Tilt Boogie (1997) .... Himself
"Caiga quien caiga"
- Episode dated 13 October 1996 (1996) TV Episode .... Himself
The Typewriter, the Rifle & the Movie Camera (1996) .... Himself
The American Film Institute Salute to Clint Eastwood (1996) (TV) .... Himself
"Dennis Miller Live"
- Being Single (1996) TV Episode .... Himself
The Anatomy of Horror (1995) (TV) .... Himself
The 67th Annual Academy Awards (1995) (TV) (also archive footage) .... Himself (Winner, Best Original Screenplay)
"American Cinema" (1995) TV Series .... Himself
1995 MTV Movie Awards (1995) (TV) .... Himself
Christopher Nolan
The Dark Knight (2008) (announced)
The Prestige (2006) (completed)
Batman Begins (2005)
... aka Batman Begins: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
Cinema16: British Short Films (2003) (V)
Insomnia (2002/I)
Memento (2000)
Following (1998)
Doodlebug (1997)
Um... Yea Quantin is over qualified compare to Nolan.
Mr. Vice
09-07-2006, 08:24 PM
And just because Quentin Tarantino has more credits than Nolan, it doesn't make him any better.
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Exactly. Just look at Schumacher compared to Nolan.:o
The-Dark-Knight
09-07-2006, 08:27 PM
is that what were refered to as.........BAT-FANS? oh thats sounds so corny, can i not be a gothamite or something?
CConn
09-07-2006, 09:19 PM
Lol your hilarious by crediting Nolan because memento was nominated for an academy award FOR WRITING, Last time I check it was Nolan and his Brother Jonathan who colloborated on the screen writing of memento. The same thing could be said about Batman Begins it was David Goyer and Nolan who colloborated on the film and I definetly liked Goyer's vision better than Nolan's vision. As for Quantin Tarantino he directed and wrote "Kill Billl vol.1" and just for the record it recieved 39 nominations and 12wins. Quantin wrote and directed it on his own he didn't need an extra hand. Trust me Quantin has a longer resume then Nolan, Quantin has written the script for "Jackie Brown", he wrote the screenplay for "From dusk till dawn" he did the story for "Natural Born Killers" as well as "True Romance" and "Pulp Fiction".Are you trying to argue Nolan isn't a good director, or simply that Tarantino is better than him? Cause if it's the latter...that's utterly pointless.
He also collaborated on "Sin City" with robert rodriguez and frank miller.That was a beautifully directed one minute and 37 seconds.
Oh and by the way You don't have a clue on what a proffesional is.At least I know how to spell it. :up:
Let's see if you can see the difference between Tarantino's work and Nolan's work:"And just because Quentin Tarantino has more credits than Nolan, it doesn't make him any better." - M...something or other.
Besides, not only did your listing give no merit to the actual quality or the works, but you listed things as worthless as TV appearances. That shows absolutely no evidence for quality or professionalism. I mean, Paris Hilton technically has more TV apperances than Nolan, does that make her better at her profession?*
And y'know, I'm not saying this because I'm trying to make Tarantino look bad or anything. I love his films. I might actually prefer him as a director to Nolan, but your arguments are just, well, laughably bad.
* Whoring.
7Hells
09-07-2006, 09:32 PM
lol CConn, that was a masterful footnote!
diagonbruce
09-07-2006, 09:32 PM
For the record there are many Batman fans that need help and generally speaking all forums have many types of personalities this way.
Erm, as said before a lot of Tarrintino's stuff is plagarised and he has collaborated with other writers (Avery) on some of his best work like Pulp Fiction. Kill Bill is a four hour homage to his favourite films.
Why did you list all of his guest appearances on Conan O'Brien? I assume Hiedi Klum has been on that show more times than Nolan which makes her more of a professional than Nolan.
When it comes down to films they will both be level at five each, and the Kill Bill films are technically a single film so we could argue it's five-four to Nolan.
Nolan has achieved more than most directors do in a whole career by the age of thirty six. Quite remarkable really.
ChrisBaleBatman
09-08-2006, 03:42 PM
If he listened to every fans request and whimper......well, we'd get a large pile of crap.
I think he should go with his instincts and do what he feels best.
Isn't that how comic book creators do it? Don't they go for what they feel is best instead of going out there and asking every single fan what they want???
We got BATMAN BEGINS.......for the love of God, give the man is due. He did a great job, and the unthinkable.......he gave Batman his balls back.
Superman: Idols
09-08-2006, 09:26 PM
Isn't that how comic book creators do it? Don't they go for what they feel is best instead of going out there and asking every single fan what they want???
Too true. If fans had their way, Frank Miller's Batman would probably look light by comparison.
Cinemaman
09-09-2006, 01:18 PM
If he listened to every fans request and whimper......well, we'd get a large pile of crap.
I think he should go with his instincts and do what he feels best.
Isn't that how comic book creators do it? Don't they go for what they feel is best instead of going out there and asking every single fan what they want???
We got BATMAN BEGINS.......for the love of God, give the man is due. He did a great job, and the unthinkable.......he gave Batman his balls back.
Totaly agreed :up: Nolan deserves trusting :mad:
Alonsovich
09-09-2006, 01:39 PM
I find funny that some people start threads about "director listening to bat-fans" and then tries to shove a "directorial choice" down the throats of those he says the current director should listen to...:o
ChrisBaleBatman
09-09-2006, 01:48 PM
lol....yeah, that is kinda ironic actually.
LadyVader
09-09-2006, 02:43 PM
Chris, you just listen to your mother.
BatJeff7786
09-09-2006, 03:41 PM
Anyone who thought Begins was boring and dull has some serious ADD problems that they need to get checked out.
kenellard
09-09-2006, 04:13 PM
it wasn't that begins was boring, for somebody just to state that as a reason for not liking the film is ridiculous, but there were many areas in which begins fell down, which have been stated on these boards numerous times, so I think it's best to admit that begins is a very popular film that does batman justice to an extent, but there are flaws which can -and hopefully will- be rectified in TDK
I agree Kenellard, i like batman begins alot, but it could of been vastly better considering it fell apart in the last act.
BatJeff7786
09-09-2006, 05:41 PM
I agree Kenellard, i like batman begins alot, but it could of been vastly better considering it fell apart in the last act.I agree that there are a lot of flaws toward the end (mainly just the whole microwave plot and that damn annoying guy at the watermain moniter ("she's gonna blow"), but I think the first 2 acts were good enough to make up for it.
BH/HHH
09-09-2006, 06:58 PM
Hang on you didn't like the Batmobile chase? WTF?
Anita18
09-09-2006, 07:03 PM
And just because Quentin Tarantino has more credits than Nolan, it doesn't make him any better.
You can do as many projects you want but if the majority of them suck, they mean nothing. If most of your work has been good rather than sucking, than you are entitled to be called a professional.
Totally agreed. To me both Tarantino and Nolan are professionals (even though Tarantino's movies are not really to my tastes) because they are both visionaries and they bring a great amount of integrity and dignity to their work. :up: I can't picture either of them selling out to the Hollywood crappy-movie-machine.
Matis17
09-09-2006, 07:18 PM
Why did you list all of his guest appearances on Conan O'Brien? I assume Hiedi Klum has been on that show more times than Nolan which makes her more of a professional than Nolan.Obviously this clown just lazily coppied and pasted his IMDB page.
marcvader
09-09-2006, 07:25 PM
Overall I was satisfied with the tone and look of BB but I will admit that there were some flaws such as too many unclear fight scenes. But this was a minor thing in my book. I have complete confidence that Nolan will give us comic book fans another good flick.
explode7
09-09-2006, 08:44 PM
The thread starter does have an important point that is almost terrifying as well. The point where he said the reason for its success is that it is an origin story. Could this be true???
7Hells
09-09-2006, 08:48 PM
Of course.
But if non comic book fans can appreciate the movie as much as us then the origin has little to do with it.
CConn
09-09-2006, 09:30 PM
The thread starter does have an important point that is almost terrifying as well. The point where he said the reason for its success is that it is an origin story. Could this be true???Well, yeah, he sorta is. The whole point of BB is Bruce becoming Batman and his psychology behind it all, but you have to remember it's Nolan that chose the focus of the film, it's morals, it's structure, and a lot of what makes a film good, or great.
If, y'know, Joel Schumacher made a Batman origin movie, would it have been good simply because it was an origin? Probably not. Because Joel Schumacher simply never had what it took to make a Batman movie. Nolan, obviously does.
It's not really "terrifying" as, if Nolan can find what's interesting and special about Batman's origin, and present it well, I don't see why he couldn't do that with the other Batman stories feature the Joker and Two-Face and whatever lies ahead in TDK and the third film.
L0ngsh0t
09-10-2006, 02:13 AM
Ok first of all I just read an interview of Chris Nolan stating this, "I make films that I think would be fun and interesting to watch and I just assume that there are other people like me out there."
I got extremely pissed off at that moment. I know many of you think that Chris Nolan is a god and that he's the best director ever but listen the only reason Batman Begins was successful is because it was an origin story, which we never seen a live interpretation of. Nolan did many things in the movie that I didn't agree with For instance: Batmobile chase, the fighting, the editing, the action and of course katie holmes. I hope Nolan hears batfans because I'm sure that most of you agree with me that the visual style for Batman Begins was boring and plain. He said he will change things up I'm starting to get worried I hope he makes the dark knight a sophisticaded summer blockbuster film, seriously it's the danm Batman, Batman is not a drama queen he's a freakin bad ass.
PLEASE NOLAN MAKE IT MORE COMICAL WITH REALISTIC ELEMENTS INSTEAD OF VICE VERSA. DARK, BRUTAL, EYE CANDY, AND OF COURSE BAD ASS WITH IMPACT!
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=16328
this guy is a ****ing idiot, what a ****ing scrub
you know what if you ever get to make a batman movie, then by all means, make the comical **** that was already made by burton and schumacher, and we can suffer through the sins of batman, batman returns, batman forever, and batman and robin
people don't like begins because it was just an origin story, they like it because for the first time in over 15 years someone has made a ****ing good batman movie, and that someone is Chris Nolan, who, funny, made what he thought was a good movie the first time, and, funny, he was right....so i am pretty sure the formula will work again
and you may not agree with the editing and sound of batman begins, but people who are paid to distinguish good sound and editing, at a place called the Academy gave Batman Begins best editing and sound of the year, so you can get your bicycle gang together and say what you want
but don't actually, because people may disagree alot about different things, on these boards, but the stupid **** you are hating on is something that i am sure most people unanimously disagree with you
Thespiralgoeson
09-10-2006, 02:20 AM
If, y'know, Joel Schumacher made a Batman origin movie, would it have been good simply because it was an origin? Probably not. Because Joel Schumacher simply never had what it took to make a Batman movie. Nolan, obviously does.
This is sorta off-subject, but Schumacher could've made great Batman movies if he wanted to. Seriously, the guy is a damn good director (Phone Booth- great movie)
But no, WB wanted movies that would sell a lot of happy meals, and he did his best to give them exactly that, and simultaneously make the entire Batman universe overtly homoerotic.
saint sinner x
09-10-2006, 02:54 AM
this guy is a ****ing idiot, what a ****ing scrub
you know what if you ever get to make a batman movie, then by all means, make the comical **** that was already made by burton and schumacher, and we can suffer through the sins of batman, batman returns, batman forever, and batman and robin
people don't like begins because it was just an origin story, they like it because for the first time in over 15 years someone has made a ****ing good batman movie, and that someone is Chris Nolan, who, funny, made what he thought was a good movie the first time, and, funny, he was right....so i am pretty sure the formula will work again
and you may not agree with the editing and sound of batman begins, but people who are paid to distinguish good sound and editing, at a place called the Academy gave Batman Begins best editing and sound of the year, so you can get your bicycle gang together and say what you want
but don't actually, because people may disagree alot about different things, on these boards, but the stupid **** you are hating on is something that i am sure most people unanimously disagree with you
this guy is a ****ing idiot, what a ****ing scrub
you know what if you ever get to make a batman movie, then by all means, make the comical **** that was already made by burton and schumacher, and we can suffer through the sins of batman, batman returns, batman forever, and batman and robin
people don't like begins because it was just an origin story, they like it because for the first time in over 15 years someone has made a ****ing good batman movie, and that someone is Chris Nolan, who, funny, made what he thought was a good movie the first time, and, funny, he was right....so i am pretty sure the formula will work again
and you may not agree with the editing and sound of batman begins, but people who are paid to distinguish good sound and editing, at a place called the Academy gave Batman Begins best editing and sound of the year, so you can get your bicycle gang together and say what you want
but don't actually, because people may disagree alot about different things, on these boards, but the stupid **** you are hating on is something that i am sure most people unanimously disagree with you
Your the ignorant wacko who can't even comprehend on what I am saying now can you?
Hmm.. let's see when the hell did I said The sound of Batman Begins sucked? Please tell me because obviously I can't see where I said that. Did i said I hate begins? No, i simply said the action could of been better and some of the elements. Batman begins is the still the best batman film out there, it had alot of mistakes it wasn't a perfect movie but if you compared it to it's predecesor then yes it was a perfect film. Batman Begins was substance over everything else the way Nolan edited the movie was lame. What? he thinks we can't get a feel of the intensity of a fight I would of prefer if he emphasizes on the impact of a fight e.g. (bourne identity,kill bill vol.2,fighter in the wind,Mission Impossible 3).Instead of shaky camera angles where you can't see crap. Oh and by the way you need to have your eyes check buddy thanx for proving your ignorance your ignorance just made me look good,I believe that's called "ESCALATION" funny how you say "Academy"
because last time I checked Batman Begins was nominated not "Given best editing and sound of the year" but words speak so little and source speaks so much so here feed on this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372784/awards
P.S. Next time do your research and educate yourself you've just won the FANBOY badge now go to your little pathetic lair of depression and stay there.
Punch
09-10-2006, 03:17 AM
I agree that Begins is far from the perfect Batman movie everyone makes it out to be, I still like 89 better, but you can't say that Nolan's filmography is not impressive. We all know Memento got him his major recognition, but Insomnia was a really good movie too. Having both Pacino and Williams in the same movie without either hamming out is a feat unto itself.
(By the way Tarantino is my favorite living director. CConn that one minute and 37 seconds was the best part of Sin City )
We also have to keep in mind that this was his first action movie, and yes the fight scenes sucked, but I think the most important thing was getting the tone right, which he did.
CConn
09-10-2006, 03:38 AM
Why's it always seem like if BB isn't "the best movie ever!!" it's "deeply flawed" (and no, I don't mean you specifically Punch). BB is a very good movie. Hell, maybe even in the Top 100 ever made. But nearly any film - even good ones, even great ones - has it flaws, and BB was no different. I think we can all agree on a few of those flaws, and there's definitely room for them to improvement, and we'd all like to see that.
Y'know, I think that's pretty much what ssx is saying with this thread. Shame it's a point presented so poorly (IMO, at least) as it is quite true.
CConn
09-10-2006, 03:48 AM
This is sorta off-subject, but Schumacher could've made great Batman movies if he wanted to. Seriously, the guy is a damn good director (Phone Booth- great movie)
But no, WB wanted movies that would sell a lot of happy meals, and he did his best to give them exactly that, and simultaneously make the entire Batman universe overtly homoerotic.Oh, I know when he has the right focus Schumacher can make some pretty good films.
Still, I thought it was the best example to give; whether it was from his own poor understanding of Batman and WB's money-whoring, or just WB's money-whoring alone, it's pretty obvious his vision of Batman sucked quite gigantically. :o
Thespiralgoeson
09-10-2006, 03:57 AM
We all know Memento got him his major recognition, but Insomnia was a really good movie too. Having both Pacino and Williams in the same movie without either hamming out is a feat unto itself.
Off subject, but I actually liked Insomnia better than Memento. Although that's certainly not a knock on Memento because Insomnia is one my top 5 favorite movies. Pacino was his typical self, which is stellar. But Williams' performance was especially noteable because it was such a departure for him. Yes, it's not the only time he played a bad guy, but it was just an amazing performance. Dead serious, not funny at all. Just a smart, manipulative murderer. The dialogue, the cutaways that Nolan has become known for, the engaging plot... Just a great friggin movie. Insomnia IMO is this decade's Heat, which I fell is the definitive crime-drama of the 90's (Silence of the Lambs notwithstanding).
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