Wii's Short life cycle........

[MaximumSpider]

I'm definately going to be buying a wii on launch day but I was thinking and I think it will have the shortest lifecycle out of the three consoles. The average lifecycle of a console is 4 to 5 years i believe. As sucky as the price is the ps3 is future proof for at least 4 years. The thing about it, the more Hd becomes the standard and the cost of hd tv's come down. the more people are going to be buying 360's and ps3's while the wii is still perfecting the regular tv market. I think nintendo may release a new console 3 years after wii that has motion sensor controls and hd. Just a thought. What do you guys think. New Console by 2010?

[hippie_hunter]

I think the Wii will last as long as the Playstation 3 and the Xbox 360. Though I do think that the next console that Nintendo puts out will not only be innovative gameplay wise, but also on par with the Playstation 4 and the Xbox 720

[Cold2daToucH004]

Its possible. Your thinking of next-gen as a graphics upgrade though. Who says next-gen is only a graphics update? Why can't next gen be a gameplay upgrade?

So, the most future proof console, from looking at it like that... is most likely the Wii. Because the controls are 'next gen'.

[Mentok]

I'm definately going to be buying a wii on launch day but I was thinking and I think it will have the shortest lifecycle out of the three consoles. The average lifecycle of a console is 4 to 5 years i believe. As sucky as the price is the ps3 is future proof for at least 4 years. The thing about it, the more Hd becomes the standard and the cost of hd tv's come down. the more people are going to be buying 360's and ps3's while the wii is still perfecting the regular tv market. I think nintendo may release a new console 3 years after wii that has motion sensor controls and hd. Just a thought. What do you guys think. New Console by 2010?

There is no such thing as 'Future Proof' All technology is outdated the moment it goes on sale.

[Spidey-Bat]

You're assuming HD-DVD and/or Blu-Ray even catches on. They may very well be the next Betamax or Laserdisc. The only thing the Wii lacks is HD support, which is not a huge, important feature outside of the fanboy community.

[Mr. Credible]

You're assuming HD-DVD and/or Blu-Ray even catches on. They may very well be the next Betamax or Laserdisc. The only thing the Wii lacks is HD support, which is not a huge, important feature outside of the fanboy community.

you're right, hd isn't that important. but you're still wrong, the only thing the wii lacks is the ability to compete with the other 2 next gen syestems graphically.

so, in response to the thread, yes. i think it will be outdated in about 3 years, maybe less. i just don't see how nintendo can keep people interested in waving their arms around for that long, there're only so many different things you can do with it. it's just not that interesting a feature, and without the graphics to back it up, it'll be all that more overlooked soon enough.

imagine how much better the eyetoy would have done if it's games hadn't looked like n64 titles... then apply that formula to the wii.

[Spidey-Bat]

you're right, hd isn't that important. but you're still wrong, the only thing the wii lacks is the ability to compete with the other 2 next gen syestems graphically.

It really won't make enough of a difference to drastically shorten the Wii's life span.

so, in response to the thread, yes. i think it will be outdated in about 3 years, maybe less. i just don't see how nintendo can keep people interested in waving their arms around for that long, there're only so many different things you can do with it. it's just not that interesting a feature, and without the graphics to back it up, it'll be all that more overlooked soon enough.

I love it when people assume they've thought up of everything for the Wii controller. Everyone thinks of some different way to use the Wiimote when they look at it which makes it great. The Wii will have a long life not due to technology, but being able to provide something new with every new game. That's going to make people keep supporting it. Playing Twilight Princess is a completely different experience than playing Red Steel or Metroid Prime. That's what Nintendo is aiming for.

imagine how much better the eyetoy would have done if it's games hadn't looked like n64 titles... then apply that formula to the wii.

Comparing the Eye Toy and Wiimote is absolutely stupid. The Eye Toy was a piece of crap developed by Sony. It had what, 5 games that could use it, all of which sucked. It was an accessory no one wanted or needed and therefore no one cared about. The Wiimote is a completely different story. It's the main feature of the Wii and completely different in everyway, shape and form, from the Eye Toy. Unlike the Eye Toy, you can actually good, intereactive games with it.

[hippie_hunter]

I liked Eye Toy :(

[Galactus]

I'm definately going to be buying a wii on launch day but I was thinking and I think it will have the shortest lifecycle out of the three consoles. The average lifecycle of a console is 4 to 5 years i believe. As sucky as the price is the ps3 is future proof for at least 4 years. The thing about it, the more Hd becomes the standard and the cost of hd tv's come down. the more people are going to be buying 360's and ps3's while the wii is still perfecting the regular tv market. I think nintendo may release a new console 3 years after wii that has motion sensor controls and hd. Just a thought. What do you guys think. New Console by 2010?

I think there's also the possibility that if Wii flops it could be their last stationary console.

[WhatsHisFace]

I think the Wii will run it out. I think Nintendo's next console will need to be much, MUCH more powerful though. People will be tired of the "revolution" by the time the PS4 rolls out.

[Sandman138]

you're right, hd isn't that important. but you're still wrong, the only thing the wii lacks is the ability to compete with the other 2 next gen syestems graphically.

so, in response to the thread, yes. i think it will be outdated in about 3 years, maybe less. i just don't see how nintendo can keep people interested in waving their arms around for that long, there're only so many different things you can do with it. it's just not that interesting a feature, and without the graphics to back it up, it'll be all that more overlooked soon enough.

imagine how much better the eyetoy would have done if it's games hadn't looked like n64 titles... then apply that formula to the wii.

People said the same thing about the DS.

[WhatsHisFace]

That's because they were expecting the PSP to be a worthwhile system.

[Spidey-Bat]

I think the Wii will run it out. I think Nintendo's next console will need to be much, MUCH more powerful though. People will be tired of the "revolution" by the time the PS4 rolls out.

The Wii is powerful enough now. Nintendo has never put power as the top priority in their systems. They want to provide something powerful but also affordable to anyone.

The PS4 may never see the light of day.

[The Riddler]

you honestly think the ps4 won't get made?

sony could lose a lot of ground, but sony isn't going broke.

as for the wii; yes it's powerful enough to look decent, but honestly, i find myself dissapointed after seeing some ps3/360 games.

[AgentDenton]

you honestly think the ps4 won't get made?

sony could lose a lot of ground, but sony isn't going broke.

as for the wii; yes it's powerful enough to look decent, but honestly, i find myself dissapointed after seeing some ps3/360 games.
"S&P said. Sony's total debt stood at 6.71 trillion yen ($61 billion) on June 30. 2004"
link (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=aiimIU_uzAs0&refer=asia)


And that was before they had to start taking huge losses on the PS3 hardware. Sony isn't going broke, they're already there :o



And why does this thread exist? Why would the Wii have a short life cycle? If anything, it'll have a longer life cycle than the 360 and PS3. As it's not competing with those two, and isn't trying to be the most graphically advanced system on the market, it isn't going to need to change up it's technology every 5-6 years like the other two, it could easily stay out for 8 years or more without a problem.

[Spidey-Bat]

you honestly think the ps4 won't get made?

sony could lose a lot of ground, but sony isn't going broke.

If Blu-Ray tanks, Sony is definately going to lose a huge chunk of their money.

as for the wii; yes it's powerful enough to look decent, but honestly, i find myself dissapointed after seeing some ps3/360 games.

How can you say that? No Wii game will make full use of the system for years to come. The graphics look great IMO, but I couldn't care less since I'm not buying the system for it's visuals.

[AgentDenton]

If Blu-Ray tanks, sony won't exist anymore, read the link I posted. They have more debt than Microsoft has excess money, if they don't win the format wars they have no way to pay their bills.

[LongDong]

Sony will not go away, if this happens they will probably just file Bankruptcy and restructure. They still have many viable products produced. They are a major player in home electronics.

[AgentDenton]

Maybe you didn't see the "b", they're 60 billion in debt. If Blu-Ray falls flat, Sony as we know it will cease to exist.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I think there's also the possibility that if Wii flops it could be their last stationary console.


i doubt it. the way ds lite sells im pretty sure nintendo can last about oh i dunno 3-4 console generations.

[GoldenAgeHero]

"S&P said. Sony's total debt stood at 6.71 trillion yen ($61 billion) on June 30. 2004"
link (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=aiimIU_uzAs0&refer=asia)


And that was before they had to start taking huge losses on the PS3 hardware. Sony isn't going broke, they're already there :o



And why does this thread exist? Why would the Wii have a short life cycle? If anything, it'll have a longer life cycle than the 360 and PS3. As it's not competing with those two, and isn't trying to be the most graphically advanced system on the market, it isn't going to need to change up it's technology every 5-6 years like the other two, it could easily stay out for 8 years or more without a problem.


i would'nt go that far and say 8 years 5 tops. but eventually nintendo will have to update those graphics.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Sony will not go away, if this happens they will probably just file Bankruptcy and restructure. They still have many viable products produced. They are a major player in home electronics.

not anymore, the ipod kicked them right in the nuts. thier computer department is barely hanging on. its about macs,hps,and dells.

[LongDong]

"S&P said. Sony's total debt stood at 6.71 trillion yen ($61 billion) on June 30. 2004"
link (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=aiimIU_uzAs0&refer=asia)


And that was before they had to start taking huge losses on the PS3 hardware. Sony isn't going broke, they're already there :o



And why does this thread exist? Why would the Wii have a short life cycle? If anything, it'll have a longer life cycle than the 360 and PS3. As it's not competing with those two, and isn't trying to be the most graphically advanced system on the market, it isn't going to need to change up it's technology every 5-6 years like the other two, it could easily stay out for 8 years or more without a problem.

Be nice to see current numbers. Wonder if it changed much

[AgentDenton]

In between then and now, they've had to fund the research of blu-ray and CELL, both of which have yet to make returns, and lost ground and face in the games market, so I doubt it's changed for the better. Even if by some miracle they made 20 billion in profit between then and now, that's still $40 billion of debt. That's more debt than Microsoft has money, still.

[WhatsHisFace]

And why does this thread exist? Why would the Wii have a short life cycle? If anything, it'll have a longer life cycle than the 360 and PS3. As it's not competing with those two, and isn't trying to be the most graphically advanced system on the market, it isn't going to need to change up it's technology every 5-6 years like the other two, it could easily stay out for 8 years or more without a problem.
It still needs to compete with shelf space. By the time the next systems come out, if Nintendo doesn't have something, the Wii isn't going to hold then. It can barely hold now.

[Spidey-Bat]

It still needs to compete with shelf space. By the time the next systems come out, if Nintendo doesn't have something, the Wii isn't going to hold then. It can barely hold now.

It's not even out so how can you even say it can barely hold?

[hippie_hunter]

Maybe you didn't see the "b", they're 60 billion in debt. If Blu-Ray falls flat, Sony as we know it will cease to exist.

You apparently completely ignored what LongDong said. If Sony does go under they will most certainly will file for bankruptcy and reorganize.

Sony is still considered to be a good brand for TVs, DVD players, etc.

The Playstation brand is at the moment the leading video game brand. And it also has game developers that it could still use even if Sony decides not to go with the Playstation 4.

Columbia Pictures and MGM own a rather large film library and rather good film franchises such as Spider-Man, James Bond, the Adam Sandler movies, Pink Panther, etc.

Sony BMG Music is one of the leading record labels

[WhatsHisFace]

It's not even out so how can you even say it can barely hold?
Sorry, I was just using the Gamecube as an estimation of the Wiis performance. I forgot for a moment that the GC is basically dead but the Wii has a large launch lineup.

Forgive me, I had zombie moment.

[terry78]

The DS could keep Nintendo afloat if that's all they had out. That's how good it's doing.

[kainedamo]

you're right, hd isn't that important. but you're still wrong, the only thing the wii lacks is the ability to compete with the other 2 next gen syestems graphically.

so, in response to the thread, yes. i think it will be outdated in about 3 years, maybe less. i just don't see how nintendo can keep people interested in waving their arms around for that long, there're only so many different things you can do with it. it's just not that interesting a feature, and without the graphics to back it up, it'll be all that more overlooked soon enough.

imagine how much better the eyetoy would have done if it's games hadn't looked like n64 titles... then apply that formula to the wii.

Amazing. Amazing how short sighted people can be. The Wiimote's motion feature is a total replacement of an anologue stick. As well as that, my short sighted friend, there are MORE possibilities with a Wii controller than a regular controller.

Look at it this way. The Wii controller does everything a normal controller does. But, with most Wii games, functions that would usually be used for one of the two analogue sticks on recent controllers will instead be used with the motion function of the Wii. In addition, the nunchuck device also has a motion function.

When Link will go fishing, you'll be using the nunchuck like that thing you use to reel in fish, while using the "wand" like a fishing line, throwing it out to water and pulling it in.

When Link will be using the bow and arrow, you point the wand, and pull back with the nunchuck... just like an actual bow and arrow.

The possibilities with the Wii controller are phenomenal. It's a gaming experience people aren't used to. And like what has been pointed out, each game will take advantage of the Wiimote in different ways.

How the hell can you be so short sighted? Explain it to me.

How can you compltely fail to see this?

[kainedamo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6d1yw8CBm4

Look at that trailer and tell me with a straight face that they'll run out of things to do with the controller in 3 years.

[kaylee]

I think the Wii is going to rock. I'll be getting on on launch day if at all possible (I want to play Twilight Princess with the Wiimote so bad).

I think that the PS3 will be a great system but is going to have problems over the long run with building an audience outside of hardcore gamers (the DS is the best example of why that is importnat, look at all the 'non-gamers" who are into the DS), because of that prohibitive pricetag. Ican't see that many parents dropping $600 on a gaming system for little Timmy this Christmas if the Wii is substantially less. And the Wii selling more units will mean that the developers will want to make more games for it, so they sell more, I'd imagine.

ANd if I was a developer I'd want to work on a game for the Wii, just to design for the controller.

[MaximumSpider]

Amazing. Amazing how short sighted people can be. The Wiimote's motion feature is a total replacement of an anologue stick. As well as that, my short sighted friend, there are MORE possibilities with a Wii controller than a regular controller.

Look at it this way. The Wii controller does everything a normal controller does. But, with most Wii games, functions that would usually be used for one of the two analogue sticks on recent controllers will instead be used with the motion function of the Wii. In addition, the nunchuck device also has a motion function.

When Link will go fishing, you'll be using the nunchuck like that thing you use to reel in fish, while using the "wand" like a fishing line, throwing it out to water and pulling it in.

When Link will be using the bow and arrow, you point the wand, and pull back with the nunchuck... just like an actual bow and arrow.

The possibilities with the Wii controller are phenomenal. It's a gaming experience people aren't used to. And like what has been pointed out, each game will take advantage of the Wiimote in different ways.

How the hell can you be so short sighted? Explain it to me.

How can you compltely fail to see this?

Well I see where you're coming from too but the reason I started the thread was becasue I do see all the possibilities with the controller and if people have open minds I think it will do good. But The thing is I believe as more people by HD tv's they will want a HD console also. Nobody is goingto kick out that much money on a HD tv and not want to take adavantage of all the possibilities. So what I was trying to get across is that I don't think the wiimote will get boring or become a fad, I just think that in 3years nintendo is going to keep the motion sensing and add Hd to compliment it. That way they'll satisfy everyone, true gamers and graphic whore's.

[terry78]

Most people will go for the "if it's more expensive" it must be better mindset this holiday season, so Wii will have to showcase why they're better than the other two systems. And little Timmy will whine about getting a PS3 if all his friends have one, that's always how it works.