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Goddamn_Batman

09-12-2006, 12:15 AM

Sorry if there's a thread on this already; I didn't see one. Anyways, for those that don't know, DC is going to start publishing "Batman Confidential," a new series that is sort of taking the place of "Legends of the Dark Knight." Since Infinite Crisis cleaned up a lot of Batman's history, this title will fill in that missing continuity with new stories. Whilce Portacio is doing the art for the first arc, and this is the cover to the first issue, found on his website:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/dohboy212/batmanconfidential.jpg

What do you guys think?

KingOfDreams

09-12-2006, 01:35 AM

He looks downright evil there.

Edd Extraordinaire

09-12-2006, 02:02 AM

I really like it actually.

bestever23

09-12-2006, 08:35 AM

awesome new cover....i like it

Superman: Idols

09-12-2006, 09:02 AM

That's different...cool:yay:

Two-Face

09-12-2006, 10:01 AM

Great cover! :batty:

Cobblepot

09-12-2006, 10:52 AM

I hate it...
I dislike, Lee, Turner, A.Kubert and this looks likes another clone...
I wish they did something like Mazzuchelli or put Goran Parlov on a series.

http://lambiek.net/artists/p/parlov_goran.htm He had a great run with Punisher.

I mean Batman is the stuff off legends then put legendary artist on it, dammit!

ChrisBaleBatman

09-12-2006, 12:50 PM

Another clone? I dunno.....those three a pretty different enough.

I like the cover. Looks very animalistic.

batmaluco

09-12-2006, 01:35 PM

I liked it. :up:

The Bruce

09-12-2006, 01:40 PM

When's it coming out?

Mee

09-12-2006, 01:50 PM

The head/face really bothers me. And the rest looks way too much like Kubert's Batman. So...meh.

CrimsonMist

09-12-2006, 02:56 PM

Goddamn_Batman

09-12-2006, 03:45 PM

i dont like the face either...there should be a bit more light around the mouth or something.

and am i the only one, or does anyone else not like it when using the BAT logo, they make it grey when it's in shadows? They should just use the oval. Other than that, i like it.

now, is this in continuity? Im unaware of all the continuity added back in from the crisis. So can someone fill me in on what happened and how this might affect Batman: Year One?

From what I've read, this series is in continuity because it will be telling stories from Batman's early years that either haven't been told or have been changed due to IC. I doubt it will negate any classic stories (Year One, Man Who Laughs, etc.), it will just add on. For example, the first arc will revolve around Batman's first encounters with Lex Luthor.

Two-Face

09-12-2006, 03:49 PM

So Superman is in it too?

The Bruce

09-12-2006, 03:53 PM

Andy Diggle will be writing the Dark Knight’s first arc with art by Whilce Portacio.

“That story will really touch upon the return of Bruce Wayne,” said DiDio, “from his travels before he first puts on the bat suit and his reclaiming of Waynehood.”

The Bruce

09-12-2006, 03:59 PM

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UADeAiYYHMv!ZniVkDyzsSb8da56O5CPz0FKBkssarY3JHjMl LSYs9INS8uP2UZyrgjzhH5ElLb9OAb5OScTZYXQeK4rg3cwVo8 bsL8NOxHkGEYRQjGBFHSCuSkAcLkp/SD04-Batman001.bmp?dc=4675482973510394061

Cobblepot

09-12-2006, 04:08 PM

U got to be kiddin' me...

Cobblepot

09-12-2006, 04:17 PM

What about Jordi Bernet or Gorlan Parlov or Ron Wagner?

Two-Face

09-12-2006, 04:19 PM

Very cool, I like it! :up:

Two-Face

09-12-2006, 04:20 PM

Very cool, I like it! :up:

Cobblepot

09-12-2006, 04:29 PM

You're nuts Two Face, that pic is hideous.

The Watchman

09-12-2006, 04:33 PM

Portacio isn't bad, and his interiros look different from his covers but he definately has that Image style. Hell you could almost mistake that for Joe Q. In any event the real news is Diggle writing Batman, as he's a writer right on the cusp of a breakout hit, guy'll be a superstar soon enough.

Cobblepot

09-12-2006, 04:36 PM

But what's with that sudden image hype?
Howcome Superman Conf. gets Tim Sale and Batman Conf. has a lesser high profile artist?

CrimsonMist

09-12-2006, 05:21 PM

From what I've read, this series is in continuity because it will be telling stories from Batman's early years that either haven't been told or have been changed due to IC. I doubt it will negate any classic stories (Year One, Man Who Laughs, etc.), it will just add on. For example, the first arc will revolve around Batman's first encounters with Lex Luthor.

Ah, alright. thanks for clearing that up.

and in regards to the second picture, WTF?

Andy Diggle did the first 6 issues of the revamped Swamp Thing series, collected now as BAD SEED. I didn't really like his writing much. It didn't really capture the essence of the character. It was more of a straight up horror/sci-fi arc, but nothing more. No real drama, there was unneseccery foul language that seemed to simply be there becuase it's a Vertigo title, and it didn't really represent Swamp Thing the way i knew the character.

im not saying Andy Diggle sucks at writing, but im not really exicted about him writing this.

CConn

09-12-2006, 05:27 PM

You should try The Losers. Or Adam Strange: Planet Heist. Those are Diggle's real accomplishments.

The Watchman

09-12-2006, 06:07 PM

Christ Yes, Silent Dragon was pretty good too, but Adam Stange should have turned into a damn ongoing and The Losers was the most under-rated Vertigo series of all time. Not to mention he's a kickass guy, chat him up at Millarworld sometime. :up:

Kraven

09-12-2006, 06:40 PM

I'm undecided on this as of right now, but sweet cover.

LinternaVerde

09-13-2006, 12:53 AM

mazzuchelli is really good. that's the kind of art i want to see in a batman confidential
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Batman407.png
or matt wagner style
http://www.stallonezone.com/z021306batman.jpg

Two-Face

09-13-2006, 06:30 AM

You're nuts Two Face, that pic is hideous.

Everybody's got opinion so I like it and you can't stop me from like it.:whatever:

Ceb-Man

09-13-2006, 07:25 PM

I like the cover.

Cobblepot

09-14-2006, 06:53 AM

I respect your opinions, but what do u guys like about it?

His face looks weird, and he's lost his right ear. His right thumb is out of place not to mention his nose.
The bats look even weirder and they all have the same pose.
And we are getting a lot of simulair images of Batman with Bats around him lately...

droogiedroogie2

09-21-2006, 02:48 AM

kenellard

09-22-2006, 07:45 AM

Ooooh! A great excuse for them to Batman Beginsify the real Batman! Great!

****in' punkass mother****ers.

yeah, what the friggin' hell? If I so much as hear about a black rubber sumo-suit or a batmo-tank I'm gonna top myself

Cobblepot

09-22-2006, 09:11 AM

What's the next team going to be on this book?

joke

09-22-2006, 12:29 PM

yeah, what the friggin' hell? If I so much as hear about a black rubber sumo-suit or a batmo-tank I'm gonna top myself
I doubt they'd mention anything about the suit being rubber or black. I'm pretty sure it will be gray/black like always and when they introduce it, it will be some pseudo-armor material.. obviously. And about the car.. Morrison already alluded to a new car, that Batman said will be special. Also, what's wrong with a more tank-like car instead of a sleek sportscar?

batbat_29640

09-22-2006, 03:22 PM

I like it. I've always liked Whilce's work. And Cobblepot . . . man just go to a thread where people don't like dynamic art. And you're right . . . Mazzuchelli is a friggin' great artist. But that's not what they're going for here. Lee, Whilce, Turner. and Sylvestri, have very different art styles. All of which I love and have great respect for. One question though, Cobblepot . . . Can you even draw? No? Then I guess that's why Whilce got the job and you didn't.

Cobblepot

09-23-2006, 04:53 AM

I can manage:

cut

But I'm nowhere near as good as Jim Lee, but I just don't like that certain style.

batbat_29640

09-23-2006, 06:10 PM

Okay
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25810176/?qo=6&q=by%3Abatbat29640&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25847356/?qo=5&q=by%3Abatbat29640&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26080225/?qo=2&q=by%3Abatbat29640&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25765971/?qo=7&q=by%3Abatbat29640&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps

Cobblepot

09-24-2006, 03:28 AM

Okay :huh:

Kraven

10-04-2006, 05:49 AM

Preview:
http://comics.ign.com/articles/736/736998p1.html

Cobblepot

10-04-2006, 06:12 AM

The inside art looks even worse, just look at the last panel on page 2.
And what happended to his ear in the first panel on pages 4.

Look Im not saying I can draw better (I can't) but I can suer as hell draw a better cowl than him.

CConn

10-04-2006, 06:13 AM

That's not too bad. His Batman design is pretty hideous, but his art overall is nice, and the writing seemed pretty good - although it may have went a bit too far into the realm of the "Goddamn" Batman.

Cobblepot

10-04-2006, 06:18 AM

Can you tell what he is looking at with his binoculars?

CConn

10-04-2006, 06:31 AM

A building, a guy jumping off the building, and landing on another, lower building. I want to say it looks like Lex's battlesuit, but I dunno.

Cobblepot

10-04-2006, 07:37 AM

I'm not sure.
Anyway I though Dc wanted to take Batman back to how he was in the 70's and in the early 90's. But with this book (We're not sure, but that's how it looks in these 4 pages.) and with Allstar they are going 180 degrees from it.

Cobblepot

10-04-2006, 09:11 AM

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7725/batmanconfidential20061003113307359vh5.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2826/batmanconfidential20061003113306500np2.jpg

Cobblepot

10-07-2006, 01:26 PM

All of a sudden this thread is really quit...

Mee

10-07-2006, 01:33 PM

Bats looks constipated.

Cobblepot

10-09-2006, 06:59 AM

Batbat 29640, seriously now you have seen some off the art what do you think about it?

And really this is not to diss you or anything, I would like to hear your opinion on it.

ChrisBaleBatman

10-13-2006, 04:52 PM

I dunno....maybe I'm just a slave to Lee's art.....but I'm on the fence about this artwork.

I mean, his cowl.....looks odd. It looks like he wanted to go for a more kevlar feel, may even a Batman Begins take.....yet he seemed to have backed off and tried to make a mesh between that and the comics....and we get an odd looking thing.

I'm not too keen on his backgrounds either. I mean, it's al right...but the last page, 3rd panel....is Gotham like covered in smoke? Is there something happening to the city, cause there's lines indicating something. And the final panel, the red in the background...looks like blood....but I know it's not...so, why's it there?

And the first age opening shot....he could have drawn a better "man jumping off building" design, I think.

But, the art got better from the first page on....and not bad overall, I'd say.

That's my 2 cents.

The Watchman

10-13-2006, 05:00 PM

They should have used Lee Bermejo for this...

ChrisBaleBatman

10-13-2006, 05:22 PM

That's what I was thinking. It looks like he was trying to do a Bermejo attempt at the armor and cowl.

Cobblepot

10-17-2006, 09:22 AM

OMG

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/6592_400x600.jpg

Look at the size of that Batarang and notice how leisurly (sp?) Bat's is standing there, he should be tumbling down in that position.

Mee

10-17-2006, 10:01 AM

Yeah, I'm not interested in this.

Superman Confidential may be good though, Cook and Sale.:up:

CConn

10-17-2006, 01:54 PM

Yeah, that's hideous. :up:

ChrisBaleBatman

10-27-2006, 10:46 PM

I dunno.....I mean, it's got a certain "THE BATMAN" quality.

Wait.....fanboys hate that show......oh crap......

It looks like the dude is trying to be ala Jim Lee....and is failing...badly. While also adding some kind of helmet like quality to the cowl. I appreciate the attempt- but it just fails horribly I think. You need the the nose of the cowl, it's a feature that's as important as the ears. He probably should try what Simone Bianchi has done, which as been to sort of make the cowl more like Batman Begins. Atleast, if he's trying to make the cowl more like a helmet....that'd be the best way to go.

CConn

10-27-2006, 10:56 PM

Well...I like the coloring.

Saint

10-28-2006, 01:50 AM

Great cover, but I'd like it a lot more if he was black instead of blue.

batbat_29640

10-29-2006, 01:42 PM

Great cover, but I'd like it a lot more if he was black instead of blue. Indeed! I'm so sick of blue "Uniformed" Batman. I mean what happened to the whole "creature of the night" aspect ? Ya can't take a creature of the night, try to turn him into a "superhero' and expect it to be cool. That's how we got Batman & Robin. I apologise for any nausea I may have caused anyone.

batbat_29640

10-29-2006, 01:51 PM

Batbat 29640, seriously now you have seen some off the art what do you think about it?

And really this is not to diss you or anything, I would like to hear your opinion on it. Well, at first I was excited to see Portacio's name on Batman but I must say that I am dissapointed. He's lost his style. His old style was really good. back when he was doing X-Factor his style was more streamlined and not (as I've heard it said) "All marked up like some Goddamn Image book." I mean this guy has drawn one of the best Wolverine pics I've ever seen! But ChrisBaleBats is right . . . It looks too much like THE BATMAN . . . I mean haven't we suffered enough with B&R?

Hellstormer

10-29-2006, 06:55 PM

double

Hellstormer

10-29-2006, 06:57 PM

I think I might pick this up, it could be interesting.

OMG

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/6592_400x600.jpg

Look at the size of that Batarang and notice how leisurly (sp?) Bat's is standing there, he should be tumbling down in that position.That gives me a serious "The Batman" vibe, the mask, the bigass batarange everything.

Sorry if there's a thread on this already; I didn't see one. Anyways, for those that don't know, DC is going to start publishing "Batman Confidential," a new series that is sort of taking the place of "Legends of the Dark Knight." Since Infinite Crisis cleaned up a lot of Batman's history, this title will fill in that missing continuity with new stories. Whilce Portacio is doing the art for the first arc, and this is the cover to the first issue, found on his website:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/dohboy212/batmanconfidential.jpg
What do you guys think?
....I tihnk I just **** my pants.

Crowforge

10-29-2006, 07:03 PM

I really like the cover, Black cowl would have made it perfect

Saint

10-29-2006, 09:21 PM

I think I might pick this up, it could be interesting.

That gives me a serious "The Batman" vibe, the mask, the bigass batarange everything.

Actually, I'd wager the reason you're getting that vibe is because the cowl on that cover has no indentation under the brow, at the bridge of the nose. It's the same smooth shape as the cowl from "The Batman," and is a stylistic element introduced by the show.

Motown Marvel

10-29-2006, 09:34 PM

They should have used Lee Bermejo for this...
bermejo should be used for everything.

The Watchman

10-29-2006, 09:44 PM

including nude sexy parties.

ChrisBaleBatman

10-29-2006, 10:31 PM

What's up with that? It looks like lately DC has brought Batman back into that deep blue color. For a while, it seemed more dark blue....now it's straight on blue. I kinda wish they'd take another crack at the Black.

Cobblepot

11-02-2006, 07:39 AM

Well, at first I was excited to see Portacio's name on Batman but I must say that I am dissapointed. He's lost his style. His old style was really good. back when he was doing X-Factor his style was more streamlined and not (as I've heard it said) "All marked up like some Goddamn Image book." I mean this guy has drawn one of the best Wolverine pics I've ever seen! But ChrisBaleBats is right . . . It looks too much like THE BATMAN . . . I mean haven't we suffered enough with B&R?

Can you post some of his Wolverine work?
I understand your view, maybe the inker is messing things up here...
IMO opinion Neal Adams has teh same problem, his 70's work was great but his recent work looks more like unfinished sketches. It feels like he hasn't gotten better...:csad:
So I'm looking forward in seeing his work on Allstar, I hope he delivers.
Man why isn't Breyfogle or Blevins on Batman now that was beautiful, it looks like DC has these guys Blacklisted. And a guy like Liefeld can still get a job :cmad:, it pisses me off.

batbat_29640

11-02-2006, 02:03 PM

Can you post some of his Wolverine work?
I understand your view, maybe the inker is messing things up here...
IMO opinion Neal Adams has teh same problem, his 70's work was great but his recent work looks more like unfinished sketches. It feels like he hasn't gotten better...:csad:
So I'm looking forward in seeing his work on Allstar, I hope he delivers.
Man why isn't Breyfogle or Blevins on Batman now that was beautiful, it looks like DC has these guys Blacklisted. And a guy like Liefeld can still get a job :cmad:, it pisses me off. Yeah man I feel ya on the Liefeld. I honestly think Liefeld had to buy his way into another job, though. I don't have the Wolvie work but a friend of mine had a promo poster for Marvel's fan club back before Image was even out. Man, it was the sweetest Wolverine I've seen. I'll see if I can dig up some images of it. Yeah man, I miss Breyfogle. Thanks to him and Grant Morrison I saw how dark and serious Batman was supposed to be. Dude, Neal Adams is old! but yeah I can see where he falls short, but I doubt any of us are gonna be as good as we were when we get over 50.

SpideyInATree

11-05-2006, 11:15 AM

So, what's this first issue supposed to be about? I couldn't find any information on it other than the first cover, which looks rather bad ass by the way. :o

Kraven

11-05-2006, 11:25 AM

The entire first arc is about Batman's first confrontation with Lex Luthor.

SpideyInATree

11-05-2006, 11:38 AM

Yeah, that's right. I'll have to check this book out. Definitely interested to see how the first meeting goes between Luthor and Bats, or Wayne and Luthor...however it happens.

Bullseye

11-05-2006, 06:27 PM

I'm not to thrilled about the art for this book. However, the story sounds interesting enough where I might just have to get this book.

Cobblepot

11-06-2006, 12:39 PM

I'll buy it anyway, I can't stop myself.

batbat_29640

11-12-2006, 11:07 AM

Hey Cobby . . . I couldn't find the Wolverine I was talking about but I did happen to find some of his earlier work.http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/smclrwp.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/xmen.jpg

batbat_29640

11-12-2006, 11:15 AM

Also found this . . . ops?http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/batmanbwpg5.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/batmanbwpg7.jpg

Cobblepot

11-13-2006, 04:24 AM

Still not sure what to think of it.
It looks better than the other pages though.

Kraven

11-13-2006, 08:04 PM

February's issue:

http://images.newsarama.com/dccomics/Feb07/b_man/BMCON_Cv3_bw.jpg
BATMAN CONFIDENTIAL #3
Written by Andy Diggle
Art and cover by Whilce Portacio & Richard Friend
Part 3 of the 6-part “Rules of Engagement,” written by Andy Diggle with art by Whilce Portacio & Richard Friend!
The Bat-Plane is launched as Lex Luthor steps up his bid to own Gotham City like he does Metropolis. Luckily, Batman is bringing his own technological wonders to the battle against LexCorp!
On sale February 28 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

batbat_29640

11-13-2006, 09:48 PM

CConn

11-13-2006, 11:25 PM

Well, that's at least better than the first two covers Portacio's done. I still just can't get all that excited about this title...even with Andy Diggle's usually fantastic writing.

Red Mask

12-01-2006, 02:05 AM

I hope this better than ASB. The Image artists feel so yesterday.

Kraven

12-02-2006, 09:12 PM

Preview for the first issue:
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec06/previews/dec6th.html

I'm tempted to check this out, but I'll probably just wait for the trade.

CConn

12-03-2006, 10:55 AM

Batman still seems a bit too much like Miller Batman for my taste, but other that, that preview actually looks pretty awesome.

Two-Face

12-03-2006, 11:09 AM

Batman looks like a monster rather a guy in a Batsuit.

Clerk

12-03-2006, 02:29 PM

Why the hell does he have a batarang that's the size of a Hummer's hood and is that a smile?

Cobblepot

12-03-2006, 03:15 PM

Horrific.

Saint

12-03-2006, 04:04 PM

You're all delusional, the art is great. Thank God they didn't assign another bloody Jim Lee clone to this book; I'm tired of that crap.

Saint

12-03-2006, 04:06 PM

OMG

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/6592_400x600.jpg

Look at the size of that Batarang and notice how leisurly (sp?) Bat's is standing there, he should be tumbling down in that position.
Which is why he's holding a line in his right hand, anchoring him.