Who in DC or Marvel would give Goku a good fight?

[Gotenks]

But 100 years down the line goku will be dead... hes still a mortal and thats a BIG weakness.... Superman is not.. Its been said 100 years from now superman will still be alive.. and he will only be like in his 50s... If that makes any sense..

Sayians cant die of old age! so that would not matter!

[Warhammer]

When is it stated that a Saiyan can't die of old age?

Not trying to dog on you, but I am curious.

:cool:

[Gotenks]

His friends, family, and innocent people also.

I dont think of that as a weakness. It would just fuel his anger.

[Gotenks]

When is it stated that a Saiyan can't die of old age?

Not trying to dog on you, but I am curious.

:cool:


Well vegeta has said it about a million times and if i can recall i think raditz has said it.


Dont worry i will counter anything u throw at me!:)

[Warhammer]

Can you give me an episode or a quote, Mr. Arrogance?

Because, I dont remember.

[Gotenks]

Can you give me an episode or a quote, Mr. Arrogance?

Because, I dont remember.

Thats not my fault but try the last episode or the one before it. Its before they enter the tournament.

[Sachsmachine]

I don't buy the not dying thing. Most warrior races don't consider dying of old age to be a respectable death so it's unlikely any Saiyan has seen a natural death. When it comes to their lifespan though Wikipedia's entry on Saiyans covers it in a paragraph quite well:

Saiyans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiyan)
Saiyans and Saiyan-Human Hybrids also have substantially longer life spans than humans. They also have reduced aging comparatively throughout their lives. ChiChi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChiChi) complained of this in DragonBall GT when Goku was reduced to a child thus making the fact that she was getting older faster that much more apparent. Vegeta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegeta) explains in the final chapter of Dragon Ball Z (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z) that Saiyans stay younger longer so they can fight even more. This is seen when Nappa who was Vegeta's attendant when he was a child is in his prime still long after Vegeta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegeta) has become an adult but in actuality Nappa is 50 years old. This is again demonstrated in the GT finale when Pan is seen one hundred years later still strong but with grey hair despite being only a quarter Saiyan.

[DBZ Master]

Sayians cant die of old age! so that would not matter!

Gotenks, you are wrong. Saiyans are not immortal.
Saiyans do not stay alive forever if they are not killed in battle.
Use sense and logic.

[DBZ Master]

Well vegeta has said it about a million times and if i can recall i think raditz has said it.


Dont worry i will counter anything u throw at me!:)

Stop living off of the dub lines.

[blah]

then what did he say in the undubbed version,
Oh, Great and Powerfull DBZ Master?

[Warhammer]

edit.

[DBZ Master]

give me a break
I doubt anyone said that a saiyan would be able to live forever and not die from old age.

[blah]

How about from other Manga? Who would give goku a good fight from those?
Since Goku died a couple of times, I'm guessing he fought great battles with soul reapers like Ichigo from bleach.

[buutenks]

I don't buy the not dying thing. Most warrior races don't consider dying of old age to be a respectable death so it's unlikely any Saiyan has seen a natural death. When it comes to their lifespan though Wikipedia's entry on Saiyans covers it in a paragraph quite well:

Saiyans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiyan)
Saiyans and Saiyan-Human Hybrids also have substantially longer life spans than humans. They also have reduced aging comparatively throughout their lives. ChiChi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChiChi) complained of this in DragonBall GT when Goku was reduced to a child thus making the fact that she was getting older faster that much more apparent. Vegeta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegeta) explains in the final chapter of Dragon Ball Z (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z) that Saiyans stay younger longer so they can fight even more. This is seen when Nappa who was Vegeta's attendant when he was a child is in his prime still long after Vegeta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegeta) has become an adult but in actuality Nappa is 50 years old. This is again demonstrated in the GT finale when Pan is seen one hundred years later still strong but with grey hair despite being only a quarter Saiyan.

Well Goku at the end of dbz was 57 years old but he looked like 25-29 years old.

[Sachsmachine]

Exactly, but do you not agree that it would be very unlikely for a Saiyan to die of natural causes... except maybe a heart condition hehehehe

[blah]

"GRR "
*Bulge*
*Twitch*
"OW, my heart"
:D

[buutenks]

Exactly, but do you not agree that it would be very unlikely for a Saiyan to die of natural causes... except maybe a heart condition hehehehe

I don't think that there is a sayan that had a natural death.

[Warhammer]

Sayians cant die of old age! so that would not matter!

Saiyans aren't immortal. They will die eventually, although very unlikely to die until at least 100 - 150 years or so.
And by the way, I watched the last 4 episodes just to prove a point and Vegeta never said that Saiyans don't die from old age.
He said "We saiyans evolved as a warrior race, We retain our youthfulness so we can fight longer.''

He didnt say they didnt die.

[Warhammer]

I don't think that there is a sayan that had a natural death.

Yeah, lol.

I dont think so either, but it still doesnt rule out that they can possibly die from natural causes or old age.
Very thin, but they arent immortals.

:D

[buutenks]

Yeah, lol.

I dont think so either, but it still doesnt rule out that they can possibly die from natural causes or old age.
Very thin, but they arent immortals.

:D

They can die from old age,but there was no one who died from old age,the only sayans that probably will die of old age will be Goku and Vegeta.Gohan and the others are only half sayans.

[Warhammer]

Agreed. :up:

[buutenks]

SPC vs Green Lantern,who wins?

[Corinthian™]

have you thought of Scarlett Witch vs. Goku?

She can make it so that goku slips on his SSJ3 hair, develops cancer from the fall and dies of accelerated ki or something like that...


Scarlett witch is perhaps one of the most powerful characters ever. And she doesn't use prep time

[Gotenks]

Gotenks, you are wrong. Saiyans are not immortal.
Saiyans do not stay alive forever if they are not killed in battle.
Use sense and logic.

yeah do u think im that stupid warhammer.......yes i said warhammer u just made another account its so obvious i was not talking to u but u came at me like we were talking all through this thread and u only have 8 or 10 post so u just wanted another person on ur side



Amost everything u said warhammer was wrong.

[Gotenks]

Saiyans aren't immortal. They will die eventually, although very unlikely to die until at least 100 - 150 years or so.
And by the way, I watched the last 4 episodes just to prove a point and Vegeta never said that Saiyans don't die from old age.
He said "We saiyans evolved as a warrior race, We retain our youthfulness so we can fight longer.''

He didnt say they didnt die.

Well then i caught u right there casue he does say it.

[Warhammer]

No he didnt.

[Warhammer]

Edit.

[Gotenks]

You knew because you know me outside of the Hype.
DBZ Master was because I got bored. :)



And what did I say that was wrong?
Except for the ''stupid dub lines'', I was kidding there.

Yes but i didnt know about ur other account i saw that with clues! u tried to fool me but it didnt work lol.

o well if u were kidding then nvm but still u have no knowledge of sayians dying of old age because it has never happened so im going off of the anime and manga

[Gotenks]

No he didnt.


.......................look and listen closer. i dont know what else to tell u except that u can believe what u want!

[Warhammer]

I respect your opinion.
I will go off what I know, and you can go off what you know.
Because I still never heard Vegeta say they cant die of old age. :D

[Gotenks]

I respect your opinion.
I will go off what I know, and you can go off what you know.
Because I still never heard Vegeta say they cant die of old age. :D

.................And i respect urs. u will soon learn the truth lol :cool:

[SsM]

I think Gotenks is just biased towards Goku :/ I like DragonBallZ and I like Superman... But the logical thing would be without kryptonite..... Goku doesnt stand a chance against superman.,. But really? who would win... Noone will ever say for sure.. Because they will never face off against each other, But if they did.. Man that would be a great fight :)

[Warhammer]

It would be a Clash of the Titans.

[Gotenks]

I think Gotenks is just biased towards Goku :/ I like DragonBallZ and I like Superman... But the logical thing would be without kryptonite..... Goku doesnt stand a chance against superman.,. But really? who would win... Noone will ever say for sure.. Because they will never face off against each other, But if they did.. Man that would be a great fight :)

Im not going to lie goku is my fav but biased come on its not like his my best friend. i also like superman im not saying he is weak. yes it would be a great fight, but on the outcome me and u have are differences. no one will ever no who will win so i hope this stops all the threads that lead to '' hey guys who do u think will win superman or goku'' and thats all i have to say about that............so who will win tien or batman lol jk jk jk!:D

[SsM]

Yeah.. Thats my problem with these threads :/ i said a few posts back that its pointless to argue about it :/ but then i thought about it for a while.. The real question would be.. why the hell are goku and superman fighting each other at all??? theyre both heroes... IMO none of the dc villains could take on goku nor the marvel villains.. even the great devourer of worlds galactus gets defeated by the F4 :/ Superman would be the only challenge for Goku... but they wouldnt fight each other...

[Gotenks]

edit

[M-Dogg]

nobody can beat goku

[Sachsmachine]

Goku has been beaten. Get over yourself.

[Gotenks]

Lol

[SsM]

Goku has been beaten. Get over yourself. :)


BAM! nuff said..

[Captain Kirk]

nobody can beat goku
Yeah, one can it's:supes:
Seriously, Pre-Crisis Superman flys into the SUN to clean his suit.
He moves so fast he brakes the fourth dimension(time travel).
He pushes planetary bodies with ease.
He doesn't need air in space.
He has been hit, shot, and charged with every deadly weapon the galaxies have to offer, and their all just trophies displayed in his Fortress of Solitude. He can take ANYONE!

[Sachsmachine]

Yes Superman is the ultimate munchkin, so he would not make a Good fight for Goku. A good fight to me is a long and hard faught battle, regardless of the victor. Honstly, I know Superman makes your pants feel tight but thats a personal problem and I really don't wanna know about it. So if anyones got any ideas for a good fight why don't you post that and give a little summary on how the battle may go. Or we could continue beating a dead horse, nothing wrong with the status quoe.

[Captain Kirk]

Yes Superman is the ultimate munchkin, so he would not make a Good fight for Goku. A good fight to me is a long and hard faught battle, regardless of the victor. Honstly, I know Superman makes your pants feel tight but thats a personal problem and I really don't wanna know about it. So if anyones got any ideas for a good fight why don't you post that and give a little summary on how the battle may go. Or we could continue beating a dead horse, nothing wrong with the status quoe.

:D Ha Ha ha!! Good comeback my friend! But Kirk's a ladies man,and repulsed by all that aren't! How about Captain Marvel versus Son Goku(pick a stage) These would make an interesting duel in the fact that Son and Billy both have a very innocent child-like mentallite! Could be interesting!

[Tsunulia]

hehehehe here's a fun match up

Goku vs
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8751/dbz200x200w2bj.jpg

the Sailor Scouts
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5734/sailorsenshi9ya.png

[ster]

he would pork them all. nuff said.

[My vengeance]

Nevermore.

[chaz jin]

superman
to see some shueisha vs marvel
and shuisha vs d.c.
pictures....
http://seyajin.invisionplus.net

[chaz jin]

http://www.geocities.com/high_energy_manga/songokucbto3copy.jpg

[ElectroFlare]

Whoa that art is cool!

What are those stages beyond SSJ4? You make them up yourself, or borrow the concept from someone else?

[Mogies]

No one. Goku is on a whole other level than everyone in the Marvel/DC universe.


thats just what i was gonna say Goku is on a whole nother level.

[Ultra-Herald9]

No one. Goku is on a whole other level than everyone in the Marvel/DC universe.


thats just what i was gonna say Goku is on a whole nother level.

Dude Silver-Age Superman. ssj4 Goku has trouble with half a city Superman when he was a boy could move 12 planets chained together through the universe. He could hear and see across the universe and blow out super nova's like candles with his freeze breath and move to distant galaxies in less than the time it takes to blink not to mention take blasts of anti-matter. All these things i've mentioned easily tower over all feats Goku has done in even his most impressive momments and the thing is PC- Supes could do all these things in a row and wouldn't even be phased.

And the thing is there are plenty of characters stronger than Silver-Age Superman in fact a pissed off Silver Surfer could probably do the things I listed above.

[Jplaya2023]

Dude Silver-Age Superman. ssj4 Goku has trouble with half a city Superman when he was a boy could move 12 planets chained together through the universe. He could hear and see across the universe and blow out super nova's like candles with his freeze breath and move to distant galaxies in less than the time it takes to blink not to mention take blasts of anti-matter. All these things i've mentioned easily tower over all feats Goku has done in even his most impressive momments and the thing is PC- Supes could do all these things in a row and wouldn't even be phased.

And the thing is there are plenty of characters stronger than Silver-Age Superman in fact a pissed off Silver Surfer could probably do the things I listed above.

who cares about moving planets thats irrelevant.

In a fight goku beats superman's ass end of story.

[Ultra-Herald9]

who cares about moving planets thats irrelevant.

In a fight goku beats superman's ass end of story.

Well if PC-Supes could move a planet that means he could put his fist clean through Goku and PC-Supes certainly has the speed to do it before Goku even thinks about dodging.

[Jplaya2023]

Well if PC-Supes could move a planet that means he could put his fist clean through Goku and PC-Supes certainly has the speed to do it before Goku even thinks about dodging.

Come on dawg lets be real. Goku can sense when superman is attacking and when. Superman would NEVER lay a ahnd on goku as long as goku gives an effort.

Superman is strong but whats the use if you cant hit your opponent. Likwe the flash and hulk argument

[War Lord]

Come on dawg lets be real. Goku can sense when superman is attacking and when. Superman would NEVER lay a ahnd on goku as long as goku gives an effort.

Superman is strong but whats the use if you cant hit your opponent. Likwe the flash and hulk argument


However, Superman is highly intelligent and adaptable and he would seek ways to overcome Goku's abilities. Perhaps he'd over load Goku by sending in all the Superman robots.

Remember, Superman is a being who has an above average Kryptonian IQ and is well versed in all possible known sciences and such.

[SsM]

Jesus dude........ I thought we settled this argument :x

[Jplaya2023]

However, Superman is highly intelligent and adaptable and he would seek ways to overcome Goku's abilities. Perhaps he'd over load Goku by sending in all the Superman robots.

Remember, Superman is a being who has an above average Kryptonian IQ and is well versed in all possible known sciences and such.

that isnt superman's style. His ego would push him over the edge knowing he couldnt touch goku he would more than likely kill himself

[SsM]

How would you figure he couldnt touch goku???? even though this is hypothetical :/

[Jplaya2023]

How would you figure he couldnt touch goku???? even though this is hypothetical :/

goku is faster, stronger, more battle tested, can trace superman move's before he makes them. Superman's punches doesnt harm him etc.......

Superman really cant hang with no one frmo dbz except weaklings like kui zarbon and dodoria

[SsM]

I dont see how you figure that.. :/ CRAP im getting sucked in >_<

[Jplaya2023]

I dont see how you figure that.. :/ CRAP im getting sucked in >_<


Becuase goku trains 24 hours a day while superman never trained a day in his life maybe once or twice. Goku's skills are always sharp. Superman was born strong so he's lazy and complacent.

[SsM]

DC and Toriyama should teamup and settle this once and for all with a DTV SUperman/Goku Crossover :)

[War Lord]

that isnt superman's style. His ego would push him over the edge knowing he couldnt touch goku he would more than likely kill himself

Superman is probably the least egotistical superhero in DC comics.

[SsM]

Superman is probably the least egotistical superhero in DC comics. That's true... Superman Is def not an egotistical character like say Lex or even Batman :/

[Tsunulia]

DC and Toriyama should teamup and settle this once and for all with a DTV SUperman/Goku Crossover :)

Then they'll all get buddy/buddy and they'll never determine a winner :(

[SsM]

Then they'll all get buddy/buddy and they'll never determine a winner :( exactly. You know why? SUperman and GOku would Never fight. Both of them are smarter in instincts to know that the other wouldnt mean harm. SO the whole superman v Goku argument is completely useless :/

[Ultra-Herald9]

Come on dawg lets be real. Goku can sense when superman is attacking and when. Superman would NEVER lay a ahnd on goku as long as goku gives an effort.

Superman is strong but whats the use if you cant hit your opponent. Likwe the flash and hulk argument


Ya dawg lets be real.:) Modern age Supes would have trouble hitting Goku but he could still do it but i'm talking about the near invicible PC-Superman. Pre-Crisis Superman can move WAY faster than Goku and I'm not just making this stuff up. PC-Supes is annoyingly powerful he could pretty much do anything if he tried and if he couldn't he'd just make up a new super power that allowed him to do it.
:supes:

[Ultra-Herald9]

goku is faster, stronger, more battle tested, can trace superman move's before he makes them. Superman's punches doesnt harm him etc.......

Superman really cant hang with no one frmo dbz except weaklings like kui zarbon and dodoria


Dude modern Supes is physically stronger than even ssj4 goku. Goku's most impressive feat(lifting half a city if we are counting GT and if not pushing to halves of a mountain) is nothing compared to modern age Supes who throws mountains the size of metropolis into the orbit of space and moved 1/3 of the earth along with Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter not to mention Supermans invunerability by far trumps Goku's. Saying that Superman can't hurt Goku when Superman would have physical strength comparable to a ssj4 is just stupid.

I would give Goku the edge on speed but if modern Supes was really trying he could REALLY hurt Goku in just a couple of blows thus making it hard for Goku to retain his most powerful stages. And Goku tracing the moves of his opponents is just stupid. He can see there joints moving a dodge but completely predicting their moves is not what Goku does. And when it comes to battle testing Superman by FAR has more experience under his belt because Goku fights a worthy opponent periodically while the DC universe is full of worthy adversaries(Mad Geniuses,Cosmics,Gods,Mystic entities and crap)that are always messing wit Supes.

[Ultra-Herald9]

Then they'll all get buddy/buddy and they'll never determine a winner :(

Indeed. They could probably never take eachother truly seriously. They would probably end up going to dinner and Superman would be astonished by Goku's limitless hunger.

[Harlekin]

Man, this was one thread that didn't need to return.

[Red X]

And yet It did.

[buutenks]

Ya dawg lets be real.:) Modern age Supes would have trouble hitting Goku but he could still do it but i'm talking about the near invicible PC-Superman. Pre-Crisis Superman can move WAY faster than Goku and I'm not just making this stuff up. PC-Supes is annoyingly powerful he could pretty much do anything if he tried and if he couldn't he'd just make up a new super power that allowed him to do it.
:supes:

Superman is faster then Goku.

[Jplaya2023]

Ya dawg lets be real.:) Modern age Supes would have trouble hitting Goku but he could still do it but i'm talking about the near invicible PC-Superman. Pre-Crisis Superman can move WAY faster than Goku and I'm not just making this stuff up. PC-Supes is annoyingly powerful he could pretty much do anything if he tried and if he couldn't he'd just make up a new super power that allowed him to do it.
:supes:

come on goku's IT >>>>>>> superman's speed

[SsM]

how can you say one is faster than the other though? I like both characters so I think i'm pretty un-biased towards either or. They are in separate fictional universes :/ you will NEVER be able to say that Superman's speed would trump Goku's Instantaneous movement :/ nor could you say it the other way around.

[Sachsmachine]

Listen, though in actual distance over time I'd have to agree that IT is better than any means supes has to travel by. But there is one problem with instant transmission. It takes a couple moments for Goku to focus, moments are all supes needs. Don't get me wrong, I like them both. Supes is quicker on the get go but Goku could definatly beat him to any location that was a good distance away.

[ElectroFlare]

Listen, though in actual distance over time I'd have to agree that IT is better than any means supes has to travel by. But there is one problem with instant transmission. It takes a couple moments for Goku to focus, moments are all supes needs. Don't get me wrong, I like them both. Supes is quicker on the get go but Goku could definatly beat him to any location that was a good distance away.

That's a fair assesment. I think I agree with that.

[Gotenks]

i thought me and ssm finished this arguement. Even if there were a crossover do you think the creater would want the othe character to win if they both have super stregnth, they are both fast, they both know how to think on thier feet,and they are both determined. I mean unless goku can get a hold of some kryptonite and superman has some needles in his back pocket (goku's weakness). I think they would be fighting for days.

[Sachsmachine]

Well what you think and what is truth can be two different things.

[Gotenks]

Dude all im trying to say is that it would be a good fight. What i say is the truth!

[Tsunulia]

i thought me and ssm finished this arguement. Even if there were a crossover do you think the creater would want the othe character to win if they both have super stregnth, they are both fast, they both know how to think on thier feet,and they are both determined. I mean unless goku can get a hold of some kryptonite and superman has some needles in his back pocket (goku's weakness). I think they would be fighting for days.

hehehe

(Goku in his tough voice) - You're not going to win this fight so give up. I don't want to hurt you.

(Superman with a smirk) - I'm not going to win huh? (pulls out needle)

(Goku) - Neeeeeeedle!!!!! AAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! (starts crying)

:D :p I laffed at this thought...........

[Gotenks]

LoL That was funny. Im sure thats exactly what goku would say.

[ghostrider4ever]

Goku trumps superman anyday of the week.

[dnno1]

Goku trumps superman anyday of the week.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/SupermancarriesGoku.png
Artwork by Joel Ojeda-Lopez

There are those who don't think so.

[ghostrider4ever]

http://www.dangergirl.4mg.com/images/prev_wizard_133_s.jpg



That's B.S. Did you draw that anyway? By the way, that's not logical.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

That's B.S. Did you draw that anyway? By the way, that's not logical.
Nope Superman aint supose to have ripped clothes after that fight.

[Jplaya2023]

superman sucks

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Indeed he does... But not as much as Gokou.

[Jplaya2023]

Indeed he does... But not as much as Gokou.

you're being irrational as always. Goku = G.O.A.T

[majortom1981]

Somebody who doesnt have one of those stupid weaknesses.

Example goku would only have to figure out that kryptonite is supermans weakeness.

Plus what do you call winning a fight. I superman and goku knew they both are for good they would not fight each other. these topics are stupid.

[Harlekin]

And how do you propose Gokuu would even find that out?

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Somebody who doesnt have one of those stupid weaknesses.

Example goku would only have to figure out that kryptonite is supermans weakeness.

Plus what do you call winning a fight. I superman and goku knew they both are for good they would not fight each other. these topics are stupid.
He have a weakness to make it interesting, otherwise he own everybody in the series would get trashed.

In pre-crisis mode he could juggle planets.
Fly so fast that he warped through time.
None of the DB-chars have even reached the speed of light.

And now lets go over to an even more powerful version of the man of steel,gold, namely Superman Prime he manage with his power ensnare the fragments of planet Krypton and remake it, and also revive every being that was on it before it was destroyed.
He also brought Lois Lane back to life and grant her immortality ect.
May I also add that he's immu to kryptonite.
And possesses the last and most powerful Green Lantern ring.
Time and space bend infore the will of this god.

And there's even beings far superior to him...

[SsM]

I think this thread has lasted waaaay too long..... I dabbled in it myself... But theres never going to be an outcome everyone likes.. and everyone who disagrees with one person's opinion is going to bash said person :/ maybe we should stop reviving it.

[saiyan jedi]

And there's even beings far superior to him...
yea liek goku
hahahahahahha


sorry
couldn't help myself

[SsM]

:( **sigh**

[dnno1]

http://www.dangergirl.4mg.com/images/prev_wizard_133_s.jpg



That's B.S. Did you draw that anyway? By the way, that's not logical.

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/th_SupermanvsGoku.jpg (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/SupermanvsGoku.jpg)
My Favorite Panel
(click to enlarge)

No. Some aspiring Mexican artist by the name of Joel Ojeda wrote and drew up a 16page manga style comic (http://www.thekryptonian.com/showthread.php?t=3782) of the contest just to display his talents. Apparently it is his long life dream to be a comic book artist but he isn't sure how to go about getting a job with one of the mainstream magazines. His work is pretty good though. You shold see some his versions of the JL (http://mistermoster.deviantart.com/gallery/).

[red-five]

:( **sigh**
lol
i think its kinda funny seeing fanboys
bicker like this

[Tsunulia]

lol
i think its kinda funny seeing fanboys
bicker like this

Yes, but when you've sat through over 80 pages over it, you begin to wish it would die a horrible and painful death :(

[SsM]

:up:Yes, but when you've sat through over 80 pages over it, you begin to wish it would die a horrible and painful death :(

[Warhammer]

All man.
End this Goku vs. Superman crap.

Talk about something new.

[SsM]

how about..... Goku vs Mr. Mxyzptlk

[Warhammer]

That is 1000000 times better than Goku vs. Superman.

:)

....Except, then people will start b****ing about it.
Then it will eventually go back to Goku vs. Superman or something else altogether.

:( :down

[SsM]

I dont think it's better than superman vs goku... I just think.... Superman vs goku is like a really great song that is overplayed on the radio :) after about a month it loses its greatness up until when someone hears the song... they instantly cringe :(

[Warhammer]

Actually, I'd like to never see another Goku Vs. ??? Thread, again.
Too much crap and never ending arguments.

[saiyan jedi]

just dont post in them
its as simple as that

[Jplaya2023]

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/th_SupermanvsGoku.jpg (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/SupermanvsGoku.jpg)
My Favorite Panel
(click to enlarge)

No. Some aspiring Mexican artist by the name of Joel Ojeda wrote and drew up a 16page manga style comic (http://www.thekryptonian.com/showthread.php?t=3782) of the contest just to display his talents. Apparently it is his long life dream to be a comic book artist but he isn't sure how to go about getting a job with one of the mainstream magazines. His work is pretty good though. You shold see some his versions of the JL (http://mistermoster.deviantart.com/gallery/).

Although he's a superman dyckrider, his drawings were hot forreal i like them ****s forreal. When goku went ssj though superman shouldnt been able to damage him no more, oh well.

[dnno1]

Although he's a superman dyckrider, his drawings were hot forreal i like them ****s forreal. When goku went ssj though superman shouldnt been able to damage him no more, oh well.

Hey, even at SSj2, Goku is vulnerable. Many times he has been injured at that level (take for instance by Pikkon or Brolly). If Superman has fought and defeated gods, I don't think it would not be unreasonable to think that he couldn't hurt Goku as a SSj.

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/th_Superman.png (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/Superman.png)
My Second
Favorite Panel
Supes Not Impressed
(view from SSj2 Goku's POV -
click to enlarge)

[ghostrider4ever]

He have a weakness to make it interesting, otherwise he own everybody in the series would get trashed.

In pre-crisis mode he could juggle planets.
You are seriously crazy if you think that he can do that. He can move them not juggle them.
Fly so fast that he warped through time.
He isn't as fast as the flash, so no.
None of the DB-chars have even reached the speed of light.
Lmao. They already surpassed it in the frieza saga. So you proved yourself wrong once again.
And now lets go over to an even more powerful version of the man of steel,gold, namely Superman Prime he manage with his power ensnare the fragments of planet Krypton and remake it, and also revive every being that was on it before it was destroyed.
Your point being. Has he ever fought anyone. Goku can bring worlds back in less than a second if we take the goku after gt. It just takes a wish, and bang. Besides, goku becomes immortal at the end of gt. So supes is pretty much screwed more than 9 ways to 1.:down
He also brought Lois Lane back to life and grant her immortality ect.
May I also add that he's immu to kryptonite.
And possesses the last and most powerful Green Lantern ring.
Time and space bend infore the will of this god.
Prove it. Superman is immortal meaning that he doesn't age , not that he can't die. You really need some help. Stop pulling information out of your ass.

And there's even beings far superior to him...
Like the spectre i guess.


You need to do some research on every version of supes because you are painfully mistakened, and are a fanboy of his.

[ghostrider4ever]

Hey, even at SSj2, Goku is vulnerable. Many times he has been injured at that level (take for instance by Pikkon or Brolly). If Superman has fought and defeated gods, I don't think it would not be unreasonable to think that he couldn't hurt Goku as a SSj.

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/th_Superman.png (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/Superman.png)
My Second
Favorite Panel
Supes Not Impressed
(view from SSj2 Goku's POV -
click to enlarge)

That's not what wizard said. He said that he will beat supes at ss1. They had a good drawing too. At the least it was better than those fake drawings. Obviously a supes fanboy did that. Wizard said Goku wins so deal with it.

[Jplaya2023]

Hey, even at SSj2, Goku is vulnerable. Many times he has been injured at that level (take for instance by Pikkon or Brolly). If Superman has fought and defeated gods, I don't think it would not be unreasonable to think that he couldn't hurt Goku as a SSj.

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/th_Superman.png (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/Superman.png)
My Second
Favorite Panel
Supes Not Impressed
(view from SSj2 Goku's POV -
click to enlarge)

goku never fought brolly or pikkon at ssj2. He only fought majin vegeta at ssj2. The buu fight at ssj2 is filler

And no superman cannot "hurt" goku because he isnt fast enough to hit goku.

[dnno1]

That's not what wizard said. He said that he will beat supes at ss1. They had a good drawing too. At the least it was better than those fake drawings. Obviously a supes fanboy did that. Wizard said Goku wins so deal with it.

Face it. Both these stories were written by fan boys of their respective heroes and and and not cannonical. But if you look at the history of these two and the feats that they have performed you will see that Superman is better than Goku (even at the non cannon SSj4). Failure to realize that is true ingnorance of the facts.

[dnno1]

...And no superman cannot "hurt" goku because he isnt fast enough to hit goku.

Who said that? Superman can travel to other galaxies in a matter of seconds... and that's when he's not trying hard. Why, he can travel so fast that he can go backwards in time. That has to be faster than anyone can think for that matter. Superman has done that many times before. It's quite obvious that either you do not know your Superman history and have been brain-washed within the last decade by Funimation, or you are deliberately being ignorant and blind to the facts here because you do not want to know the truth.

[Jplaya2023]

Who said that? Superman can travel to other galaxies in a matter of seconds... and that's when he's not trying hard. Why, he can travel so fast that he can go backwards in time. That has to be faster than anyone can think for that matter. Superman has done that many times before. It's quite obvious that either you do not know your Superman history and have been brain-washed within the last decade by Funimation, or you are deliberately being ignorant and blind to the facts here because you do not want to know the truth.

I'm talking about fighting speed its alot different than "travel" speed. But goku with his IT technique is still faster than superman is. Tell me something, how many people have superman fought against that can move faster than the speed of light. I would guess less than 3 if that many at all. Ever since goku fought vegeta all his foes has had that ability. Superman just doesnt fight people like that for long periods of time he doesnt have the experience of fighting someone faster than him, and i dont think he could adjust.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

I'm talking about fighting speed its alot different than "travel" speed. But goku with his IT technique is still faster than superman is. Tell me something, how many people have superman fought against that can move faster than the speed of light. I would guess less than 3 if that many at all. Ever since goku fought vegeta all his foes has had that ability. Superman just doesnt fight people like that for long periods of time he doesnt have the experience of fighting someone faster than him, and i dont think he could adjust.
Not realy, It took Majin Buu-han at least a minute to get to Gokou and Bejiita, with the speed of light you can lap the world around 3 times a sec.
Db's clearly in the speed of sound...

[saiyan jedi]

[QUOTE=SSJ4_Mikael]Not realy, It took Majin Buu at least a minute to get to Gokou and vejiita.[QUOTE=SSJ4_Mikael]
when?

[SSJ4_Mikael]

[quote=SSJ4_Mikael]Not realy, It took Majin Buu at least a minute to get to Gokou and vejiita.[quote=SSJ4_Mikael]
when?
Why just people don't trust my Thanos, Why

Oh, well guess I've gotta prove it...
http://www.nfsupreme.com/hostees/dranet/mangas/showimg.php?file=/Dragon%20Ball%20%26%20DBZ%20Manga/volume42/Db42ch01/420109.gif

[dnno1]

I'm talking about fighting speed its alot different than "travel" speed. But goku with his IT technique is still faster than superman is. Tell me something, how many people have superman fought against that can move faster than the speed of light. I would guess less than 3 if that many at all. Ever since goku fought vegeta all his foes has had that ability. Superman just doesnt fight people like that for long periods of time he doesnt have the experience of fighting someone faster than him, and i dont think he could adjust.

Superman can fight that fast as well since he can move at super speed. Instant transmission is irrelevant when you can travel through time and faster than the speed of light (which Superman can do). Superman has also fought opponents that were just as fast as he, but you are not going to find many who are faster. Here is a list of some:

Bizzaro
Doomsday
Mon-El (and any Daxamite)
General Zod.

I also disagree with your insinuation that Superman could not adjust or maintain a fight at super speed. He does not really tire so if at all he did stop it would be because he is changing strategies or the battle is already over.

[Jplaya2023]

Superman can fight that fast as well since he can move at super speed. Instant transmission is irrelevant when you can travel through time and faster than the speed of light (which Superman can do). Superman has also fought opponents that were just as fast as he, but you are not going to find many who are faster. Here is a list of some:

Bizzaro
Doomsday
Mon-El (and any Daxamite)
General Zod.

I also disagree with your insinuation that Superman could not adjust or maintain a fight at super speed. He does not really tire so if at all he did stop it would be because he is changing strategies or the battle is already over.

Goku has been fighting like that his entire life, IT is what it is instant, faster than any speeds superman can reach. Lol @ Doomsday being fast are you serious??? When has Doomsday been able to fight or go as fast as the speed of light get serious. And general ZOD?? The DC version of the hulk does not fight at the speed of light. I'll give you Bizarro because he's the retarded superman and i never heard of Mon-El.

Superman never had to fight like that for long periods of time, so we really dont know the limits of his stamina and how long he can maintain those types of speeds before he wore down. I guarantee you goku would of already killed superman before he changed strategies

[red-five]

[quote=saiyan jedi][quote=SSJ4_Mikael]Not realy, It took Majin Buu at least a minute to get to Gokou and vejiita.
Why just people don't trust my Thanos, Why

Oh, well guess I've gotta prove it...
http://www.nfsupreme.com/hostees/dranet/mangas/showimg.php?file=/Dragon%20Ball%20%26%20DBZ%20Manga/volume42/Db42ch01/420109.gif
all that is taking place almost instantaneasously(cant spell)
ex.
ssj gku vs 100 freiza
took five mins
and yet they all moved so fast there
was time for freiza to gain
the upper hand, goku to start fighting better,
goku appear to have died,gohan sensed this as flies to frieza
freiza toys with him, goku comes back,goku gains the upper hand,
frieza launches his destructo disks,frieza gets sliced by one,
and beggs for mecry, goku gives him some energy and takes off
freiza attacks him,goku blasts the basterd, and flies off the freiza space ship which is broken, so he takes of in some saiyan pod.
all this was in FIVE mins and like 5 or 6 episodes
AND they still had time to taunt each other.
so that buu scene u posted would been like 2 secs long

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Goku has been fighting like that his entire life, IT is what it is instant, faster than any speeds superman can reach. Lol @ Doomsday being fast are you serious??? When has Doomsday been able to fight or go as fast as the speed of light get serious. And general ZOD?? The DC version of the hulk does not fight at the speed of light. I'll give you Bizarro because he's the retarded superman and i never heard of Mon-El.

Superman never had to fight like that for long periods of time, so we really dont know the limits of his stamina and how long he can maintain those types of speeds before he wore down. I guarantee you goku would of already killed superman before he changed strategies

Seru out-speeded Gokou even though he used instanttranslockation.
Cause it have to slow cooldown.
Beside I already proved that DBZ are soundspeed, and Supes in lightspeed.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

[quote=SSJ4_Mikael][quote=saiyan jedi]
all that is taking place almost instantaneasously(cant spell)
ex.
ssj gku vs 100 freiza
took five mins
and yet they all moved so fast there
was time for freiza to gain
the upper hand, goku to start fighting better,
goku appear to have died,gohan sensed this as flies to frieza
freiza toys with him, goku comes back,goku gains the upper hand,
frieza launches his destructo disks,frieza gets sliced by one,
and beggs for mecry, goku gives him some energy and takes off
freiza attacks him,goku blasts the basterd, and flies off the freiza space ship which is broken, so he takes of in some saiyan pod.
all this was in FIVE mins and like 5 or 6 episodes
AND they still had time to taunt each other.
so that buu scene u posted would been like 2 secs long
You cannot base it on anime, It's non-cannon.
And Gokou cannot talk in the speed of..agh...you get it.
Yeah, the Fruiza vs Gokou battle was kinda intence.
But if it was in slow-motion as you claim, how come rocks and dust -part of enviorment- is effected in normal speed.
Beside, if they flied faster than sol they would be to fast for the light and unable to see eachother.

[red-five]

[quote=red-five][quote=SSJ4_Mikael]
, if they flied faster than sol they would be to fast for the light and unable to see eachother.
they do it the same way supes does it
but its all fiction anyway so that really shouldn't pose a problem 4 them



and the rocks like everthing else LOOKs like normal speed but
its really not

[SSJ4_Mikael]

[quote=SSJ4_Mikael][quote=red-five]
they do it the same way supes does it
but its all fiction anyway so that really shouldn't pose a problem 4 them



and the rocks like everthing else LOOKs like normal speed but
its really not
Man if you are trying to defend do it propobly like this.
http://www.nfsupreme.com/hostees/dranet/mangas/showimg.php?file=/Dragon%20Ball%20%26%20DBZ%20Manga/volume42/Db42ch02/420212.gif
They are not using their eye's in the fight, they have other sences.

That was a one time favor.

[dnno1]

Goku has been fighting like that his entire life, IT is what it is instant, faster than any speeds superman can reach. Lol @ Doomsday being fast are you serious??? When has Doomsday been able to fight or go as fast as the speed of light get serious. And general ZOD?? The DC version of the hulk does not fight at the speed of light. I'll give you Bizarro because he's the retarded superman and i never heard of Mon-El.

Superman never had to fight like that for long periods of time, so we really dont know the limits of his stamina and how long he can maintain those types of speeds before he wore down. I guarantee you goku would of already killed superman before he changed strategies

The one drawback about IT is that you have to think about where you want to go before you can actually do it. If you are in a super speed fight with :supes:, I gauratee you you won't have time to think about going anywere.

[Guyverjay]

The one drawback about IT is that you have to think about where you want to go before you can actually do it. If you are in a super speed fight with :supes:, I gauratee you you won't have time to think about going anywere.


Yeah because you know the speed of thought is really slow:o

With that rationale you might as well say Goku won't have time to move at all since you know his brain has to send the signals to his body:rolleyes:

[dnno1]

Yeah because you know the speed of thought is really slow:o

With that rationale you might as well say Goku won't have time to move at all since you know his brain has to send the signals to his body:rolleyes:

Yes, that's right.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Yeah because you know the speed of thought is really slow:o

With that rationale you might as well say Goku won't have time to move at all since you know his brain has to send the signals to his body:rolleyes:
Anime's non-canon, none of the dbz character's where ever able to break sol.

[Guyverjay]

Anime's non-canon, none of the dbz character's where ever able to break sol.


When did I even mention sol?:rolleyes:

Yes, that's right.

Only in magical Superman fanboy land

[Jplaya2023]

Not realy, It took Majin Buu-han at least a minute to get to Gokou and Bejiita, with the speed of light you can lap the world around 3 times a sec.
Db's clearly in the speed of sound...

he wasnt traveling at the speed of light playa.

I never seen so much overt superman dyckriding in my life. Its like logic is thrown out the window in regards to superman

[SSJ4_Mikael]

But he's still faster...

[Jplaya2023]

But he's still faster...

yeah buu can move faster.

But superman is not faster than goku

kidd buu located goku's and vegeta's ki and IT in a matter of thought. Thats speed

[dnno1]

Not realy, It took Majin Buu-han at least a minute to get to Gokou and Bejiita, with the speed of light you can lap the world around 3 times a sec.
Db's clearly in the speed of sound...
More like seven and a half times. The speed of light is a little over 186,000 miles per second and the circumference of the earth is almost 25,000 miles.
he wasnt traveling at the speed of light playa.

I never seen so much overt superman dyckriding in my life. Its like logic is thrown out the window in regards to superman

Hey, we're just stating the facts. Superman has done some phenomenal things over the last 60 years that Son Goku and crew have yet to even try. I really think you guys need to go to the local comic book store and read up on superman.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

yeah buu can move faster.

But superman is not faster than goku

kidd buu located goku's and vegeta's ki and IT in a matter of thought. Thats speed
chibi Boo's weaker than shin Boo.

Superman was faster than Gokou ever was.

[Jplaya2023]

chibi Boo's weaker than shin Boo.

Superman was faster than Gokou ever was.

chibi buu used IT, shin buu didnt use IT thats why chibi's was faster

Superman is no where near goku in speed

IT >>>>> anything supes can do.

SHow me scans of superman fighting someone at light speed

[dnno1]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg

[Jplaya2023]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg

thanks

[red-five]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg
hes just moving fast enough to leave
images

ppl from Dragonball could do that

[SSJ4_Mikael]

hes just moving fast enough to leave
images

ppl from Dragonball could do that
Yes but not in dbz... did they become slower.

[Guyverjay]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg


LOL so an artist draws after images and its automaticallly light speed?

bwhahahaaaaaaaaaa

I guess Spider-man must be light speed as well:rolleyes:

Never mind that actually going light speed on earth would **** up the planet and Supes wouldn't do that

Hell we can use your logic, Torayama drew after images all the time, that must mean light speed:eek:

Hell we know that Ki blasts can exceed the speed of light, after all both Picollo and Roshi blew up the moon from earth in about 1 second:up:

[SSJ4_Mikael]

LOL so an artist dawn after images and its automaticallly light speed?

bwhahahaaaaaaaaaa

I guess Spider-man must be light speed as well:rolleyes:

Never mind that actually going light speed on earth would **** up the planet and Supes wouldn't do that

Hell we can use your logic, Toratama drew After images all the time, that must mean light speed:eek:

Hell we know that Ki blasts can exceed the speed of light, after all both Picollo and Roshi blew up the moon from earth in about 1 second:up:
He didn't prove SoL he proved fighting style.
We all know pre-crisis went through time with his speed.

Beside it's Toriyama...

[Guyverjay]

He didn't prove SoL he proved fighting style.
We all know pre-crisis went through time with his speed.

Beside it's Toriyama...



Jplaya asked for proof of supes fighting at light speed and those scans are what he replied with

I wasn't talking about pre crisis, since when is OWAW pre crisis?:rolleyes:

[hulkamania85]

People who would give Goku a fight:

Superman
The Hulk
Flash
Shazam
Batman (he'd make anti-chi spray)
Spider-Man

[SsM]

People who would give Goku a fight:

Superman
The Hulk
Flash
Shazam
Batman (he'd make anti-chi spray)
Spider-Man

alright great.. we have a list... END OF DISCUSSION :)

[Jplaya2023]

People who would give Goku a fight:

Superman

owned in seconds

The Hulk

lmaoooooo fugg outta here. Without the green skin the hulk is the blob

Flash

hell no

Shazam

lol @ shaq

Batman (he'd make anti-chi spray)

Nooooooooooope They friends they not fighting

Spider-Man

see batman

[SsM]

batman and goku are friends?

[Jplaya2023]

batman and goku are friends?

Yes they are, according to this article (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6964170&postcount=154)

[TheVileOne]

Simple fact:

Against super power saiyans, basically anyone in the DC universe would be screwed.

[hulkamania85]

lol at shaq

That's Kazaam!

Shazam is Captain Marvel, the guy that has given Superman trouble before. He could beat Goku pretty easily.

The Hulk would defeat Goku. Sure Goku would fly but Hulk can be patient. Body like stone! Mind like meatloaf!

[dnno1]

Yes they are, according to this article (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6964170&postcount=154)

Somthing you wrote?

[dnno1]

Simple fact:

Against super power saiyans, basically anyone in the DC universe would be screwed.

The thing is that Sayajins are mortal and can be killed. The Vision could phase his hand into Goku's heart and take him out. End of story.

[Jplaya2023]

That's Kazaam!

Shazam is Captain Marvel, the guy that has given Superman trouble before. He could beat Goku pretty easily.

The Hulk would defeat Goku. Sure Goku would fly but Hulk can be patient. Body like stone! Mind like meatloaf!

Captain Marvel lol nah he cant even beat cell he not messin with goku

[Gotenks]

Omg the Hulk vs Goku are you serious?
The Hulk is nobody compared to Goku.
Maybe superman ,but def not the hulk

[SsM]

:( that everyone is still arguing about this :(

[Warhammer]

^Haha.

BTW, Superman would crush Hulk due to overpowering and unlimited energy source.

[Jplaya2023]

Somthing you wrote?

its in continuity though

[Gotenks]

^Haha.

BTW, Superman would crush Hulk due to overpowering and unlimited energy source.

I meant superman having a chance to beat goku.
I know superman would beat hulk.

[Jplaya2023]

I meant superman having a chance to beat goku.
I know superman would beat hulk.

the only reason superman can beat the hulk is he will fly 1 million miles above hulk and own him with laser vision.

[Warhammer]

Please.
Superman would beat down Hulk, and even if he didn't, Superman would outlast Hulk due to unlimited energy source.

[Jplaya2023]

Please.
Superman would beat down Hulk, and even if he didn't, Superman would outlast Hulk due to unlimited energy source.

unlimited nergy source isnt cannon. Fan Boy wet dream

[dnno1]

unlimited nergy source isnt cannon. Fan Boy wet dream

Since it will last for 5 billion years as it is, our sun is virtually an unlimited energy source. So long as Superman is in the proximity of a yellow sun we could safely assume that he can tap into that (unlimited) source.

[SsM]

Since it will last for 5 billion years as it is, the our sun is virtually an unlimited energy source. So long as Superman is in the proximity of a yellow sun we could safely assume that he can tap into that (unlimited) source. He has a point :/

[ghostrider4ever]

Since it will last for 5 billion years as it is, our sun is virtually an unlimited energy source. So long as Superman is in the proximity of a yellow sun we could safely assume that he can tap into that (unlimited) source.

What's to stop goku from destroying a sun? Brolly wiped out a Galaxy one time and he isn't even stronger than a fully powered ss2. Superman is probably the most overrrated hero that this forum has to offer. You guys like riding on his "S" shield.:supes: Goku with the dragonballs has a unlimited source of power.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
Superman has no fighting style whatsoever. He's a brawler for crying out loud.

[ghostrider4ever]

He has a point :/

What point, that he needs the sun inorder to be super.:(

[ghostrider4ever]

Please.
Superman would beat down Hulk, and even if he didn't, Superman would outlast Hulk due to unlimited energy source.

Have you even read the incredible hulk vs superman. Now tell me, who won that battle? You're such a fanboy of supes that it's disturbing.:thing: Supes leaving the battlefield isn't likely due to that it will make him look like a wimp, which he isn't.

[Gotenks]

What's to stop goku from destroying a sun? Brolly wiped out a Galaxy one time and he isn't even stronger than a fully powered ss2. Superman is probably the most overrrated hero that this forum has to offer. You guys like riding on his "S" shield.:supes: Goku with the dragonballs has a unlimited source of power.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
Superman has no fighting style whatsoever. He's a brawler for crying out loud.

Wow I hope your playing dumb.
Maybe the fact that the planet would freeze over!
I also think superman has no chance against goku.

[Warhammer]

Have you even read the incredible hulk vs superman. Now tell me, who won that battle? You're such a fanboy of supes that it's disturbing.:thing: Supes leaving the battlefield isn't likely due to that it will make him look like a wimp, which he isn't.

Ok, so what if I like Superman more than Goku.
Why is it so important to you?
I'm automatically a Superman fanboy and he automatically became my favorite superhero because I voted for him instead of Goku?
It makes you mad that I didn't pick Goku?

Don't ever quote me again unless you have something logical to say.


Stupid.

[SsM]

ok... So goku has unlimited power with the dragonballs..
Superman had unlimited power with the sun..


STANDOFF... NOONE WINS.

end of story please :)

[War Lord]

ok... So goku has unlimited power with the dragonballs..
Superman had unlimited power with the sun..


STANDOFF... NOONE WINS.

end of story please :)

The end cannot happen on page 87.

A minimal of 100 pages is needed.

[1987olds442]

I love Dragonball, but there are too many characters to list that could go toe to toe with Goku and even beat him.

[Warhammer]

SsM, these battles will continue forever.
It's the only thing left in the Anime forum, and it got old a long time ago.

:(

[SsM]

yeah... I know.. and I hate to be labeled a "troll" but I mean come on... It has to end sometime...

[red-five]

Ok, so what if I like Superman more than Goku.
Why is it so important to you?
I'm automatically a Superman fanboy and he automatically became my favorite superhero because I voted for him instead of Goku?
It makes you mad that I didn't pick Goku?

Don't ever quote me again unless you have something logical to say.


Stupid.
youre a supes fanboy because
u say supes wins in every vs thread

[SsM]

Theres nothing wrong with being a fanboy.

I am a Batman fanboy myself :)

[ghostrider4ever]

Ok, so what if I like Superman more than Goku.
Why is it so important to you?

Believe it or not, I don't really care who you like. It's just that you are being very bias when it comes to debates like this. You can judge one character over another because you like him better. How is that even debatable?
I'm automatically a Superman fanboy and he automatically became my favorite superhero because I voted for him instead of Goku?
It makes you mad that I didn't pick Goku?
Like i said, i could care less who you like. The thing is that you are being very bias. You are using feats that superman has done and are ignoring some of the things that a saiyan is capable of doing.

Don't ever quote me again unless you have something logical to say.
I just did.

Stupid.
Ok, i see that insulting the otherside is your only speciality


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif sorry dude.

[ghostrider4ever]

youre a supes fanboy because
u say supes wins in every vs thread


That's exactly my point. Liking one character doesn't put him on top of another character. Popularity doesn't mean ****.:o

[ghostrider4ever]

Theres nothing wrong with being a fanboy.

I am a Batman fanboy myself :)

The Bats has beaten supes too, so ya he's pretty cool. The Dark knight returns, right.:eek:

[ghostrider4ever]

I love Dragonball, but there are too many characters to list that could go toe to toe with Goku and even beat him.

Yes, but not supes.

[1987olds442]

Yes, but not supes.Wow you must really love Superman, as much as you bring him up in post that don't even mention him...

[SsM]

he just prefers dbz over dc from what I've seen.. and theres nothin wrong with having your own opinion :P

[1987olds442]

he just prefers dbz over dc from what I've seen.. and theres nothin wrong with having your own opinion :PThat there isn't, but he keeps bring up Superman in post that don't even mention him...

[SSJ4_Mikael]

People that can beat Gokou.
In marvel.
Thanos w/ HotU / tOAuA
Living Tribunal
Thanos w/ IG
Eternity / Infinity / Galactus ul/ max potential
Oblivion
Beyonder
Galactus

oh, this will take too long time...:o

[SsM]

didnt the molecule man kill the beyonder??? has he come back or something?

[SSJ4_Mikael]

didnt the molecule man kill the beyonder??? has he come back or something?
Perhaps but Beyonder would be able to kill him...
If he were alive.
It's like saying; Majin Buu-han wasnt able kill anyone b/c he's dead.

[Warhammer]

he just prefers dbz over dc from what I've seen.. and theres nothin wrong with having your own opinion :P

Yes there is.
He calls anyone who favors Superman over Goku a fool and talks s***. He also continually quotes me in every single thread like he can prove something.

[Warhammer]

That's exactly my point. Liking one character doesn't put him on top of another character. Popularity doesn't mean ****.:o

We also so don't proof, so Goku or any other DBZ character don't automatically win, as well as any DC/Marvel character. :o
All we have is opinion.

[Speedball]

Robin could kick Goku's ass.
Dragonball Z is so boring now.

[SsM]

Robin could kick Goku's ass.
Dragonball Z is so boring now.


wh.......what????? evidence??

which robin?

Dick Grayson(Now Nightwing)

Jason Todd(now undead)

Tim Drake(current Robin)

[Speedball]

I'm talking about Tim Drake.
and he wins because he's not LAME.

[Gotenks]

Robin could kick Goku's ass.
Dragonball Z is so boring now.

He's is just a regular human he has no chance against Goku.
What are you smoking?

[Speedball]

Why the hell would they be fighting anyway?
plus, Robin always wins, just like Batman.

[Gotenks]

Batman with the help of robin cant beat Goku!

[Speedball]

according to you, but not to the writers.

[Speedball]

ok, i know who would win, actually, there are two.
Franklin Richards and Scarlet Witch.
They can erase Goku from reality if they really wanted to. or could leave him powerless.(which is what they would probably do.)

[SsM]

true.. scarlet witch would...... but erasing his existence isnt a good fight :P

[Speedball]

it is to her. lol.

[SsM]

yeah... I guess... But poor no longer existing goku :(

[dnno1]

didnt the molecule man kill the beyonder??? has he come back or something?

You know, he didn't list the molecule man.

[dnno1]

What point, that he needs the sun inorder to be super.:(

No the point (which was actually a rebuttal) is that the sun could be considered an ulimited power source. It will be around beyond any of our lifetimes (even Superman's). This supports the claim that Superman would have an unlimited power source. Aside from reading the posts, try to understand them ok?

[Warhammer]

ok, i know who would win, actually, there are two.
Franklin Richards and Scarlet Witch.
They can erase Goku from reality if they really wanted to. or could leave him powerless.(which is what they would probably do.)

Oh wow.
I forgot about Franklin Richards.

Nice.

[Speedball]

lol, thanks.
those two are possibly the most powerful in any universe. imagine if they teamed up and were evil. Imagine the hell they could create.

[Warhammer]

lol, thanks.
those two are possibly the most powerful in any universe. imagine if they teamed up and were evil. Imagine the hell they could create.

Heck yeah.
They'd be nearly unstoppable.

[Speedball]

Anyone else thinking What if...?

[hulkamania85]

Everyone would give Goku a good fight.

As it turns out if Goku were to be transported to other realities, he would end up, due to a difference in scale, the size of a bug, like that fleet in Hitchhiker's Guide that was eaten by a small dog.

[SsM]

Everyone would give Goku a good fight.

As it turns out if Goku were to be transported to other realities, he would end up, due to a difference in scale, the size of a bug, like that fleet in Hitchhiker's Guide that was eaten by a small dog. ..... elaborate.. Because I have no idea what you are talking about... But i'm interested 0.o

[narutofan236]

lol

[Phenomenal]

Dude modern Supes is physically stronger than even ssj4 goku. Goku's most impressive feat(lifting half a city if we are counting GT and if not pushing to halves of a mountain) is nothing compared to modern age Supes who throws mountains the size of metropolis into the orbit of space and moved 1/3 of the earth along with Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter not to mention Supermans invunerability by far trumps Goku's. Saying that Superman can't hurt Goku when Superman would have physical strength comparable to a ssj4 is just stupid.

Uh.. Supes may have great lifting Strength but Goku is no slouch either in that department. Goku split a mountain in half then shattering it, Goku also has lifted the "Densest" material in the Dragonball universe. This fight is not about pushing or lifting, it is about PUNCHING strength. Goku's punches has created shockwavs that destroys mountains and the enviornment while in combat. I have seen no such thing from Superman. I would say that both can hurt each other but Goku's Martial arts will edge out Superman.


I would give Goku the edge on speed but if modern Supes was really trying he could REALLY hurt Goku in just a couple of blows thus making it hard for Goku to retain his most powerful stages. And Goku tracing the moves of his opponents is just stupid. He can see there joints moving a dodge but completely predicting their moves is not what Goku does. And when it comes to battle testing Superman by FAR has more experience under his belt because Goku fights a worthy opponent periodically while the DC universe is full of worthy adversaries(Mad Geniuses,Cosmics,Gods,Mystic entities and crap)that are always messing wit Supes.


How did you come to the conclusion that Superman has more combat experience than Goku? Goku has been fighting ever since he was twelve years old while Clark as a child has been moving tractors and chasing after Lana Lang in high school.

Superman is not putting Goku down with a couple of punches Goku has great durability in his own right. Goku wins over Superman!

[Warhammer]

Arguing doesn't need to start again in this thread, because obviously it will become a war against:

- DBZ people/fanboys who know little to nothing about comics and think Goku is unstoppable.
- Comic people who are biased of DBZ and think it's stupid.
- People who dont know enough about both to even pick a winner. :o

[Sloth7d]

A fight between Goku and Superman would be good....Goku would kill him, but it would still be good:D

OK!! ok, I dont mean "Kill" as in literally Kill cos goku is too nice :D but spues would well and truley get his ass kicked

A fight between Krillen and Spiderman would be really great tho:D
I pray that is a joke.
None of the earthlings,save Uub, could even compete with ultra powerful kryptonian.:super:

[Ultra-Herald9]

Uh.. Supes may have great lifting Strength but Goku is no slouch either in that department. Goku split a mountain in half then shattering it, Goku also has lifted the "Densest" material in the Dragonball universe. This fight is not about pushing or lifting, it is about PUNCHING strength. Goku's punches has created shockwavs that destroys mountains and the enviornment while in combat. I have seen no such thing from Superman. I would say that both can hurt each other but Goku's Martial arts will edge out Superman.



How did you come to the conclusion that Superman has more combat experience than Goku? Goku has been fighting ever since he was twelve years old while Clark as a child has been moving tractors and chasing after Lana Lang in high school.

Superman is not putting Goku down with a couple of punches Goku has great durability in his own right. Goku wins over Superman!

Once Goku starts flying through Stars then he could posssibly take on Supes but until then Goku's chances of taking Supes punches are Slim considering he still gets hurt when flying through mountains. Plus I woild say that Superman's Thousand years of fighting in Ragnarok give him the edge in the experience department.

As for punching strength......Superman was shattering reality around him in infinite crisis when he was fighting earth-2 Superman.

[Warhammer]

The Phenomenol is the perfect example of why people's opinions shouldn't matter unless you have comic and DBZ knowledge.

[Sloth7d]

But Ultra herald is also underestimating a character, something that often happens in these versus threads.

[Gotenks]

Very true.

[Ultra-Herald9]

But Ultra herald is also underestimating a character, something that often happens in these versus threads.

Oh...... i'm underestimating.:whatever: Why because I don't say "Goku instantly wins against Superman with only his power aura" or "Goku would just blink the galaxy away with an eye-blast" or my personal favorite "Goku would just hink him away with the Dragon Balls"?

I'm only using facts and logic yet I'm uccused of underestimating characters! Its not like i'm running around saying that Daredevil and Captain America would kill Goku cause that would be true underestimation! I just use feats to back up my opinions.

I highly doubt that you guys have even read about half the characters you say Goku could beat yet you talk like you know all about these guys and when a person defends that character and backs up his opinion with feats you guy's throw the "you guys are underestimating Dbz!" flag and suddenly we are the bad guys.

[Sloth7d]

Oh...... i'm underestimating.:whatever: Why because I don't say "Goku instantly wins against Superman with only his power aura" or "Goku would just blink the galaxy away with an eye-blast" or my personal favorite "Goku would just hink him away with the Dragon Balls"?

I'm only using facts and logic yet I'm uccused of underestimating characters! Its not like i'm running around saying that Daredevil and Captain America would kill Goku cause that would be true underestimation! I just use feats to back up my opinions.

I highly doubt that you guys have even read about half the characters you say Goku could beat yet you talk like you know all about these guys and when a person defends that character and backs up his opinion with feats you guy's throw the "you guys are underestimating Dbz!" flag and suddenly we are the bad guys.
I wouldn't debate if I didn't read about the characters he's pitted against.
You said Goku can't fly through mountains without getting hurt. On DB he crashed his head through robots without so much as a scratch. Superman has gone through buildings and gotten hurt, but not because a building>superman. It was the guy who hit him through it that did the damage. So by your logic a mountain>Goku. By that same logic a bulding >Superman. Which neither scenario is true.

[Ultra-Herald9]

I wouldn't debate if I didn't read about the characters he's pitted against.
You said Goku can't fly through mountains without getting hurt. On DB he crashed his head through robots without so much as a scratch. Superman has gone through buildings and gotten hurt, but not because a building>superman. It was the guy who hit him through it that did the damage. So by your logic a mountain>Goku. By that same logic a bulding >Superman. Which neither scenario is true.


good point. I'm merely just trying to say that based on the feats Goku has achieved his Durability is not even in Superman's League.

[Sloth7d]

It can be argued to a point. Because there hasn't really been anything that could damage Goku outside of another being who is stronger than him. But at the same time we never saw him stepp into the path of a nuclear war head and walk it off like nothing. However we have seen him bust through a metal robot with his head without so much as a scratch.

[Ultra-Herald9]

It can be argued to a point. Because there hasn't really been anything that could damage Goku outside of another being who is stronger than him. But at the same time we never saw him stepp into the path of a nuclear war head and walk it off like nothing. However we have seen him bust through a metal robot with his head without so much as a scratch.

And Superman doesn't count as a stronger being at least physically?

[Sloth7d]

And Superman doesn't count as a stronger being at least physically?
I have trouble debating the strenth factors. I think Akira Toriyama was smoking herbs when he wrote Goku struggling with 40 tons. I wonder how could he lift a ton in Dragonball, but when he's about 1000x stronger in DBZ he needed SSj form to lift 40 tons. But yeah. By manga standards he IS weaker than Supes. Supes is recorded being at a strenth level of 40 billion tons. Base Goku struggled lifting 40 tons. Ssj is a atleast a 50x powerup. So in Ssj he should be able to lift around2000 tons. And the power ups from fpssj to SSj3 are unknown. So its hard to determine, but unlikely to max out to the billions.

[Ultra-Herald9]

I have trouble debating the strenth factors. I think Akira Toriyama was smoking herbs when he wrote Goku struggling with 40 tons. I wonder how could he lift a ton in Dragonball, but when he's about 1000x stronger in DBZ he needed SSj form to lift 40 tons. But yeah. By manga standards he IS weaker than Supes. Supes is recorded being at a strenth level of 40 billion tons. Base Goku struggled lifting 40 tons. Ssj is a atleast a 50x powerup. So in Ssj he should be able to lift around2000 tons. And the power ups from fpssj to SSj3 are unknown. So its hard to determine, but unlikely to max out to the billions.

and this is why I tell people not to try to caculate DBZ powerlevels. It just doesn't work and thats why Akira stopped doing the Power level system but fans wanted exact numbers on their characters so people started making educated guesses. Thats why some people estimate someone like SSJ3 Goku powerlevel to be anywhere from 30 million to 300 million. The truth is that their powerlevels are anything Toriyama wants them to be. If he wants Goku to struggle with 40 tons then he does and thats that yet fans still argue that he's so much more powerful and Toriyama should be sLapped for ever making Goku so weak but dems da breaks............

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Ehh...
Gokou (after kanzai): 3,000,000
Fruiza: 530,000
2nd Fruiza: 1,060,000
3rd Fruiza: 2,120,000
Final Fruiza: 4,240,000

When Fruiza goes 50% Gokou turns on KaiOken 10.
But Fruiza is still superior.
3M * 10 = 30M < 50% Fruiza

It's first when Gokou turns on factor 20 of the KaiOken he stalemates 50% Fruiza and give him a scratch.
3M * 20 = 60M = Fruiza 50%

It's safe to say that 50% Fruiza is around 60M in pl.
100% Fruiza would be 2 times as strong as 50%.
100% Fruiza = 120M
SSJ Gokou toyed with 100% Fruiza
Which makes SSJ Gokou around 150M.
So 150M/3M = 50
In other words SSJ Gokou was 50 times as strong as his base form, which was at 3M.

[Ultra-Herald9]

[quote=SSJ4_Mikael]Ehh...
Gokou (after kanzai): 3,000,000
Fruiza: 530,000
2nd Fruiza: 1,060,000
3rd Fruiza: 2,120,000
Final Fruiza: 4,240,000

When Fruiza goes 50% Gokou turns on KaiOken 10.
But Fruiza is still superior.
3M * 10 = 30M < 50% Fruiza

It's first when Gokou turns on factor 20 of the KaiOken he stalemates 50% Fruiza and give him a scratch.
3M * 20 = 60M = Fruiza 50%

It's safe to say that 50% Fruiza is around 60M in pl.
100% Fruiza would be 2 times as strong as 50%.

*sigh* its completely useless.......

I believe Freeza's power level never topped 10m even at 150%.

[DACrowe]

Stupid ideas.

And why is this forum I discover a Goku/DBZ (hardly the greatest show in the world) forum?

Anyway off the top of my head:

Galactus
Dark Pheonex (actually she would kick Goku's ass as she can summon as much power as him in seconds while it takes him a full ****ing 30 damn episodes of screaing to get half that power as all the other characters just kinda' watch on bug-eyed)
Silver Surfer
Thor

[Sloth7d]

Stupid ideas.

And why is this forum I discover a Goku/DBZ (hardly the greatest show in the world) forum?

Anyway off the top of my head:

Galactus
Dark Pheonex (actually she would kick Goku's ass as she can summon as much power as him in seconds while it takes him a full ****ing 30 damn episodes of screaing to get half that power as all the other characters just kinda' watch on bug-eyed)
Silver Surfer
Thor
It doesn't take anyone 30 minutes to power up. Thats just filler time in the series. In the actual manga it only takes one panel for them to powerup.
Besides... Goku would kick all their arses.

[Jplaya2023]

Ehh...
Gokou (after kanzai): 3,000,000
Fruiza: 530,000
2nd Fruiza: 1,060,000
3rd Fruiza: 2,120,000
Final Fruiza: 4,240,000

When Fruiza goes 50% Gokou turns on KaiOken 10.
But Fruiza is still superior.
3M * 10 = 30M < 50% Fruiza

It's first when Gokou turns on factor 20 of the KaiOken he stalemates 50% Fruiza and give him a scratch.
3M * 20 = 60M = Fruiza 50%

It's safe to say that 50% Fruiza is around 60M in pl.
100% Fruiza would be 2 times as strong as 50%.
100% Fruiza = 120M
SSJ Gokou toyed with 100% Fruiza
Which makes SSJ Gokou around 150M.
So 150M/3M = 50
In other words SSJ Gokou was 50 times as strong as his base form, which was at 3M.

Umm these levels are wrong

frieza at 100% = 12 million

goku after frieza's rejuvination chamber = 300,000

ssj goku (weak) = 15 million

[Jplaya2023]

Stupid ideas.

And why is this forum I discover a Goku/DBZ (hardly the greatest show in the world) forum?

Anyway off the top of my head:

Galactus
Dark Pheonex (actually she would kick Goku's ass as she can summon as much power as him in seconds while it takes him a full ****ing 30 damn episodes of screaing to get half that power as all the other characters just kinda' watch on bug-eyed)
Silver Surfer
Thor

you're an idiot, never post in this thread again

[Ultra-Herald9]

you're an idiot, never post in this thread again

You're the idiot! The first three characters on that list could transmute Goku into a pair of denim pants with a thought. Whats Goku ganna do to counter that? And Thor is WAY more Durable and strong than Goku and his godblast makes the kamehameha look like a flashlight. Thor would just rip Goku's ams off.

[Warhammer]

you're an idiot, never post in this thread again

Not trying to hate, but Phoenix can wipe the floor with Goku. Goku is a beast, but Phoenix is too unbelievably powerful.

[Ultra-Herald9]

Not trying to hate, but Phoenix can wipe the floor with Goku. Goku is a beast, but Phoenix is too unbelievably powerful.

Charles Xavier could mindwipe Goku with a thoughtblast and he's said that phoenix's psychic powers are infinite compared to him. She is the amalgamation of all the psychic power in the universe plus the mother of the fundemental energies that hold the universe together.

[Jplaya2023]

Not trying to hate, but Phoenix can wipe the floor with Goku. Goku is a beast, but Phoenix is too unbelievably powerful.


doubt it phoenix would get humiliated trying to fight goku who is basically omnipotent.

[Jplaya2023]

Charles Xavier could mindwipe Goku with a thoughtblast and he's said that phoenix's psychic powers are infinite compared to him. She is the amalgamation of all the psychic power in the universe plus the mother of the fundemental energies that hold the universe together.

Goku is a psychic as well not to the extent of xavier but goku has his moments.

[Sloth7d]

"Omnipotent".........
Not a word I would use to describe him. Not at all.
But I don't think phoenix could beat Goku either.
And I know she has destroyed a galaxie before and devored suns, but my man Goku is way more than twice as strong as Cell. Who stated he could destroy a solarsystem.

[War Lord]

"Omnipotent".........
Not a word I would use to describe him. Not at all.
But I don't think phoenix could beat Goku either.
And I know she has destroyed a galaxie before and devored suns, but my man Goku is way more than twice as strong as Cell. Who stated he could destroy a solarsystem.

And a solar system is bigger than a galaxy, right?

[Warhammer]

^Lol.

There are probably tens of thousands of solar systems in one Galaxy, Sloth7d.

:oldrazz:

[Warhammer]

Goku is a psychic as well not to the extent of xavier but goku has his moments.

I don't remember Goku mindwiping people. The only thing we know is that he can read thoughts. We havent seen him do anything amazing, so Xavier puts the beatdown on Goku, let alone, Dark Phoenix.

I hope you aren't basing any opinions of anyone from their alternate selves. (Phoenix from X-Men: The Last Stand, etc.)

[Keollyn]

RahXephon
The Hulk
Laharl
Id
New Sun
Gladiator
Eiko Magami
Thor
Lenneth Valkyrie
Gabriel
Pyron
Burori
Karate Kid
Iceman
Popeye
Onslaught
Beyonder
Dark Schneider
Parallax
Lobo

Alot of those characters would decimate Goku without even trying. Yes I know this was supposed to be "a good matchup" and yes, I know this was suppose to be "Marvel/DC characters" but I don't care. Goku is grinding on my last nerves.

[Gotenks]

RahXephon
The Hulk
Laharl
Id
New Sun
Gladiator
Eiko Magami
Thor
Lenneth Valkyrie
Gabriel
Pyron
Burori
Karate Kid
Iceman
Popeye
Onslaught
Beyonder
Dark Schneider
Parallax
Lobo

Alot of those characters would decimate Goku without even trying. Yes I know this was supposed to be "a good matchup" and yes, I know this was suppose to be "Marvel/DC characters" but I don't care. Goku is grinding on my last nerves.

I know your trying to prove a point, but come on lets be real. Lets face it Goku is amazing. I know he cant beat those god-like characters like beyonder, etc, etc. Goku has defeated countless enemys he has proven himself time and time again. Give him his props he's a sayian..........and if you think about it what does kill him makes him stronger.

[Keollyn]

Why did you bold those four characters?

[Gotenks]

Cause Goku would whoop those guys!
Hulk wont go down as easy, but he would lose.

[Keollyn]

How would he beat Burori?

Karate Kid's feats make Goku's look childish in comparison.

Iceman CANNOT be beaten as long as there is moisture in the air.

Popeye has reality-warping abilities in his PUNCHES.

Goku's not messing with none of them.

[Gotenks]

Are you refering to Broly? I might be mistaken because thats how some people spell his name.

Karate kid might know his stuff about martial arts, but Goku could probably mimic it in an instance.

Iceman is nothing compared to goku......what? He will get frozen and goku will bust out of that easliy.

My bad for also mistaking "popeye" for "popeye the sailor man".

[Keollyn]

Yeah, that's him. The terribly dubbed translation of his name.

Do me a favor. Read this (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t399057.html)

And might I ask what Goku would do to Iceman?

Yeah, I'm talking about the "sailor man"

[Ultra-Herald9]

Yeah, that's him. The terribly dubbed translation of his name.

Do me a favor. Read this (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t399057.html)

And might I ask what Goku would do to Iceman?

Yeah, I'm talking about the "sailor man"


He's rght. Karate Kid could go toe to toe with pre-crisis Superboy and Karate Kid has the power to see the weak points in ANY object so he could potentially kill Goku and Karate Kid makes Goku's skill look like a joke.

Iceman is an Omega-Level mutant with COMPLETE power over any type of moisture. Goku in GT got OWNED by the Ice Dragon who lost because he was playing around to much.He had Goku frozen for awhile.

And popeye........Its not even a contest. Looney toons, Popeye,and other assorted cartoon characters constantly bend the laws of reality! Ever heard of the infinite pocket? With spinach Popeye is invincible.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Dialmformonkey.jpg


heres another great character for Goku to fight. Monkey will probably lose but hed put up one hell of a fight!

[Gotenks]

Yeah, that's him. The terribly dubbed translation of his name.

Do me a favor. Read this (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t399057.html)

And might I ask what Goku would do to Iceman?

Yeah, I'm talking about the "sailor man"

OK then I was right. How you ask seeing that he has done it before even tho it wasnt canon.

Well I already knew who he was and what he can do, but I did learn something new. I still say Goku can win.

Thermokinesis, Hydrokinesis, enabling local and body temperature reduction, and Cryokinesis. Thats pretty much what Iceman can do. Right? I would say Iceman would win maybe 4 out of 10 times against goku because he is just to much for him.

Popeye has strong punches, but he has only really faced people weaker then him. So his attacks wont hurt someone with equal strength or possibly stronger then him.

[Gotenks]

He's rght. Karate Kid could go toe to toe with pre-crisis Superboy and Karate Kid has the power to see the weak points in ANY object so he could potentially kill Goku and Karate Kid makes Goku's skill look like a joke.

Iceman is an Omega-Level mutant with COMPLETE power over any type of moisture. Goku in GT got OWNED by the Ice Dragon who lost because he was playing around to much.He had Goku frozen for awhile.

And popeye........Its not even a contest. Looney toons, Popeye,and other assorted cartoon characters constantly bend the laws of reality! Ever heard of the infinite pocket? With spinach Popeye is invincible.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Dialmformonkey.jpg


heres another great character for Goku to fight. Monkey will probably lose but hed put up one hell of a fight!


Whats the point you guys are pretty much making fun of goku.
Its a shame.

[Jplaya2023]

Whats the point you guys are pretty much making fun of goku.
Its a shame.


they just mad their favorite superhero cant beat goku

[Jplaya2023]

Yeah, that's him. The terribly dubbed translation of his name.

Do me a favor. Read this (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t399057.html)

And might I ask what Goku would do to Iceman?

Yeah, I'm talking about the "sailor man"


umm goku could vaporize him totally leaving no trace with the kamehameha wave.

He could beat iceman into submission

he could teleport him to a black hole

he could melt iceman by simply charging his ki

etc.. etc.. etc...

[SsM]

man.. hate to be a troll.....
but this thread has given me this:
superman sucks
goku sucks
batman sucks(sorry :( )
spiderman sucks
captain america sucks
phoenix sucks
EVERY BODY SUCKS

YOU GUYS HAVE KILLED ALL OF MY LOVE FOR ANIME/COMICS







THANKS A ****ING LOT!

[Keollyn]

OK then I was right. How you ask seeing that he has done it before even tho it wasnt canon.

Well I already knew who he was and what he can do, but I did learn something new. I still say Goku can win.

Thermokinesis, Hydrokinesis, enabling local and body temperature reduction, and Cryokinesis. Thats pretty much what Iceman can do. Right? I would say Iceman would win maybe 4 out of 10 times against goku because he is just to much for him.

Popeye has strong punches, but he has only really faced people weaker then him. So his attacks wont hurt someone with equal strength or possibly stronger then him.

When has Goku ever beaten Burori?

Goku could never rumble with Superboy, let alone have him fall to one knee.. but Goku would beat someone who did? WTF!?

Goku can't put away Iceman, yet he has a 6/10 chance of winning?

Popeye's done far more impressive things than Goku has ever done. Surviving in zero atmosphere is one of them.

[Avalanche]

Scarlet Witch. She would remake reality so that Goku had no powers at all.

[Warhammer]

they just mad their favorite superhero cant beat goku

You just get mad because you can't handle Goku losing to anyone, to the point that you make up ridiculous excuses like Goku automatically winning just because he has faster "battle-speed".

[Jplaya2023]

When has Goku ever beaten Burori?

Goku could never rumble with Superboy, let alone have him fall to one knee.. but Goku would beat someone who did? WTF!?

Goku can't put away Iceman, yet he has a 6/10 chance of winning?

Popeye's done far more impressive things than Goku has ever done. Surviving in zero atmosphere is one of them.

you must be from that other site, stupidity like this should have u blocked