Rejected designs

[Antonello Blueberry]

http://screenrant.com/archives/rejected-iron-man-movie-armor--1253.html
FYI, here are some Iron Man armor concepts that did not make the cut for the upcoming movie. Personally I think these are fantastic, straddling a line between realism and the comic book world that would really work with the James Bond/Tom Clancy vibe that director Jon Favreau is going for.

hese were designed/rendered by Brandon Perlow who has done TV and movie computer effects work. Brandon met with visual effects supervisor John Nelson who said that although he liked the design and that in some cases it paralleled what they were doing, it did not fit in with their overall direction. They're wanting to go in more of an Adi Granov design direction. It will be interesting to see how the final concept measures up to these. For more of Brandon's work, visit his site: BrandonPerlow.com (http://www.brandonperlow.com/).
http://screenrant.com/images/IRONBIG_FRONT4.jpg

http://screenrant.com/images/IronFlyCity.jpg



http://screenrant.com/images/ironRECOIL3.jpg

[Hades]

Holy **** those are awesome. :wow:

[3dman27]

Holy **** those are awesome. :wow:
andHOW if these are the REJECTS i want to see the ACCEPTED versions:ninja:

[Hades]

andHOW if these are the REJECTS i want to see the ACCEPTED versions:ninja:
I don't know. They could turn out to be worse, though with these designs it seems like the movies in a food direction at least.

[BatB]

those were made by a guy here on the forums

[ultimatefan]

Interesting designs, but from all Favreau has said I think Granov will design the movie armor.

[Hoedowned]

I don't know. They could turn out to be worse, though with these designs it seems like the movies in a food direction at least.

Yeah, remember when we saw a concept maquette of the Thing and then we saw the actual Thing. But then again they've got Granov working on this...so there's still hope.

[WTFimVENOM]

Take a look at the manips thread you guys,
somebody claimed to make those pics himself....
I wouldn't believe that site, anybody could have made those 3d renderings

[Antonello Blueberry]

Take a look at the manips thread you guys,
somebody claimed to make those pics himself....

Brandon Perlow. He's here on the boards, too.

[WTFimVENOM]

Wow really?
I thought Adi Granov was doing all the design work tho???

[vich]

Take a look at the manips thread you guys,
somebody claimed to make those pics himself....
I wouldn't believe that site, anybody could have made those 3d renderings

Yes, those were done by Brandon here on the forum, but he DID meet with the VFX supervisor on the movie and the conversation mentioned on Screen Rant DID take place as written.

Vic (Owner of ScreenRant.com)

[WTFimVENOM]

They're pretty good but Im not sure I like the yellow patterns on the arms and legs

[Spider - Man]

It looks cool, but 2 things I'm not crazy about: The rubber looking suit underneath shows in too many places and the "metal" part of the armor doesn't look metal, it looks like some sort of vacuum-formed material. I'd say it would be a good starting point. If he could just cover more of the body with armor and make it look more like burnished steel, it would be a lot better IMO.

[deathshead2]

Holy crap those are horrible.

[WTFimVENOM]

^
Thats why I was skeptical...

[Ironman24]

Those are awesome pics, I really like that armor, its much more real world, I can't believe they were rejected, you would think Marvel would take these designs and work with them and modify them to make them what they are looking for.
I hope Brandon gets a job on the film, helping with the designs, his work is incredible.

[bperlow]

I met with John Nelson on a cold call to Marvel to show my models of Iron Man. I even did a quickie model of the granov design to see where it can be workable for animation. Im not claiming to be great, just that my designs can work for posing and animation.

The Granov design needs a lot of work that a real person can look good in it and that it can be posed heroicly. I hope they have the right people to make Granovs design work. I was MORE than willing to take Granovs design to fruition. I still think areas like the shoulders, Abs, and Hips are problematic in Granovs design. The hips dont allow for alot of movement, and the knee needs to be segmented well.

ALso take into account a normal human at 6 ft tall is 7-7.5 heads tall. A comic book character is 8.5- 9 heads tall. Care must be taken that Iron Man doesnt look dumpy in the real world. I still believe the flexible armor look is the best way to go for film. I think the suit will look a little different than the normal Granov suit when everything is said and done.

[Morgoth]

http://screenrant.com/archives/rejected-iron-man-movie-armor--1253.html

http://screenrant.com/images/IRONBIG_FRONT4.jpg

http://screenrant.com/images/IronFlyCity.jpg



http://screenrant.com/images/ironRECOIL3.jpgQuite cool, could use some more detail in the face, and the top of the head by the fore head looks a tad too bulky but, still nice.

I hope the movie has a design with as much imagination and is faithful to the comic.

I'm tired of boring comic book movie costumes, like the X-men and all the leather crap. DD's suit would've been so much better looking had it been done like Spidey's.

[Nivek]

They are okay, but looks way too segmented and Robot like instead of armor covering a human being.

Sheesh, after putting Batman in armored battlesuits (whih by definition the character shouldn't even need) I figured everyone would be on the same page on what Iron Man should look like.

[robzass]

i dont see them can someone repost them from photobucket i think they took the site down.

[Antonello Blueberry]

I like thm. I'd prefer a bit more gold and less black and the boots bigger with visibke jets. And the red closer to blood red, like the version posted in the other thread.

[bperlow]

BLueberry, my first iteration did have bigger boots, but a friend of mine who is a VFX supervisior for another company, felt it caused an imbalance and made the hands and arms look small.

The black areas are supposed to be Gunmetal grey.

Red and Gold are 2 strong colors that cant fight each other if not balanced. Grey is a neutral color.

SInce Ultimate IM has dark grey, I tried adding it to him too.

Just to push the design.

It was meant to be an experiment. Its easy enough to change the colors in 3d.

[ultimatefan]

I met with John Nelson on a cold call to Marvel to show my models of Iron Man. I even did a quickie model of the granov design to see where it can be workable for animation. Im not claiming to be great, just that my designs can work for posing and animation.

The Granov design needs a lot of work that a real person can look good in it and that it can be posed heroicly. I hope they have the right people to make Granovs design work. I was MORE than willing to take Granovs design to fruition. I still think areas like the shoulders, Abs, and Hips are problematic in Granovs design. The hips dont allow for alot of movement, and the knee needs to be segmented well.

ALso take into account a normal human at 6 ft tall is 7-7.5 heads tall. A comic book character is 8.5- 9 heads tall. Care must be taken that Iron Man doesnt look dumpy in the real world. I still believe the flexible armor look is the best way to go for film. I think the suit will look a little different than the normal Granov suit when everything is said and done.

Yeah, I agree that Granov´s design as it is in the comics can be hard to translate into movies. People keep forgetting that comic book art and cartoons can cheat in a lot of ways that you can´t in live-action. The difference to a Batman armor is that it´s supposed to be more hi-tech, and yet look flexible enough. It´s a challenge.

[Alchemyst]

Now thats a V.R. Trooper

[bperlow]

Now thats a V.R. Trooper

you mean this?


A lot people love the internet cause they all can say stuff and be insulting. But at least back it up.

http://www.brandonperlow.com/vr_troopers.JPG

[Cyrusbales]

VR troopers was fun, lol

[bperlow]

ALso here are my versions of the Granov suit. Granted I rushed it to show the VF supe , but I got it to pose decently..Im not so egotisical to say my way is better than Granovs. If thats what the director wanted , then I was willing to give him that..
This was made with real human proportions as I use scan data of a real person to build around








http://www.brandonperlow.com/GranovArmorAll.jpg

[WTFimVENOM]

I like everything but the abdominal plates

[Tissues]

That still looks pretty cool.

[tamron]

Man, both sets of designs look awesome.

The only think I don't like about the Granov-style rendering the eye slits look way too narrow.

I like the original design renderings, especially the one of IM crouching, but I must agree with Nivek that it looks more like a robot than a man covered in armor. It reminds me of the samurai inspired design someone posted:

http://tinypic.com/157yfxf.jpg

[ultimatefan]

ALso here are my versions of the Granov suit. Granted I rushed it to show the VF supe , but I got it to pose decently..Im not so egotisical to say my way is better than Granovs. If thats what the director wanted , then I was willing to give him that..
This was made with real human proportions as I use scan data of a real person to build around








http://www.brandonperlow.com/GranovArmorAll.jpg
I like the chest better on this one, but overall I prefer the other one.

[Ironfan72]

I like them both, the second looks more streamlined, if I had to pick from either one of them it would be the second version. Nice work.

[muscaremy]

i like the art of em u did a good job..... but no way do i see the first as iron man...the granov like one is a lil better. haha take that back i like the granov one a lot just not the abs and head...

[joke]

The original design looks like a cross between Iron Man, a Power Ranger and Ultraman. The overall design is too busy and the helmet looks like it has *another* helmet on it. You need to streamline it, make it simpler and add more yellow parts. The red is overwhelming right now. The Granov ones look a lot better, though the red is still too muted. Needs to be brighter, a lesson everyone should learn from Superman Returns. The drawn Iron Man looks even worse. He's like a damn samurai.

[zer00]

I love both designs. I like the yellow pattern, makes it look like heavy machinery. Something they did with Doc Ock's tentacles in SM2. I don't like the head though.

On Granov's design. I don't like how the torso is designed and the shoulders are a bit bulky. Needs some tweaks. but most early designs do.

But frankly I love them both.

[Mr. Credible]

those look like manips of the green goblin armor from spider-man... the body does, at least.

[Mr.Wednesday]

ALso here are my versions of the Granov suit. Granted I rushed it to show the VF supe , but I got it to pose decently..Im not so egotisical to say my way is better than Granovs. If thats what the director wanted , then I was willing to give him that..
This was made with real human proportions as I use scan data of a real person to build around








http://www.brandonperlow.com/GranovArmorAll.jpg

Those are great!!! I really didnt like the first pics showed here but these last ones are just sweet! Just like Gradinov´s design! Im looking forward to this movie... And great job man! Do some more! I know it sounds easy to say but damn youre good! :up:

[3dman27]

Those are great!!! I really didnt like the first pics showed here but these last ones are just sweet! Just like Gradinov´s design! Im looking forward to this movie... And great job man! Do some more! I know it sounds easy to say but damn youre good! :up:
verrry goood

[Gold Samurai]

They're all great,good work from that guy that made these. No creases either that was big compliant from batman begins "armor" :D wonder what programs he used

http://www.brandonperlow.com/GranovArmorAll.jpg


the second picture looks like it could have been for a new game

[Spider - Man]

They're all great,good work from that guy that made these. No creases either that was big compliant from batman begins "armor" :D wonder what programs he used

http://www.brandonperlow.com/GranovArmorAll.jpg


the second picture looks like it could have been for a new game

He used Maya.

[Aquaman]

I think that design is pretty sweet, though the arms seem too short for actual human proportions.

[bperlow]

Aquaman,
on both designs I gave IM "elevator" shoes to make him a bit taller and have plausible space for thrusters.

His arms arent short.

Also the shoulder pads can make the arms seem shorter, at the expense of making him appear broader..

[eXperiment]

personally, I think it would look better without the huge shoulder pads, make them smaller

[bperlow]

Nothing a scale cant fix...

When I get home I might get to it..

[Tony Stark]

I think they got the idea, but I can see why those were rejected. Personally I hope the chest plate has a glowing portal. I always thought of it as sort of a power cell for the whole outfit, and it also makes you very aware of Tony's condition for having to wear the suit in the first place.

In these designs I don't like the little black thing in the center. It just doesn't look as dynamic. But it's certainly a good start.

[Philly Phanboy]

ALso here are my versions of the Granov suit. Granted I rushed it to show the VF supe , but I got it to pose decently..Im not so egotisical to say my way is better than Granovs. If thats what the director wanted , then I was willing to give him that..
This was made with real human proportions as I use scan data of a real person to build around








http://www.brandonperlow.com/GranovArmorAll.jpg

That design looks really cool. Definitely close to what I think that Iron Man should look like.

I have to say that I prefer the boots and the shoulder pads from the first design though. Any way of incorporating them into your latest?

[Aquaman]

Aquaman,
on both designs I gave IM "elevator" shoes to make him a bit taller and have plausible space for thrusters.

His arms arent short.

Also the shoulder pads can make the arms seem shorter, at the expense of making him appear broader..

Its not a general look of shortness. I'm just saying his arms seem to stop closer to the waist than to the knees, which is more proportionate.

Not trying to attack your piece. Its really sweet and all. I just think he's got a stubbed physique.

[jrd550]

glad these were rejected

[chiefchirpa]

Need a better red. Bright red or metallic crimson red (to differentiate IM from Spidey).

Red means money, good business for kids and toys. Superman screwed the red - look what it got for revenue.

[bperlow]

THose were earlier renderings. I photoshoped the reds to be more red,and the gold to be more warm..

[dengueman]

the body is okay but the head isnt...
id rather prefer the one on the teaser poster than that!

[ghost113]

cool designs, anyone ever send this to jon on myspace?

[Leon_0]

I dont like the Helmet On those rejected ones, but everything below the neck looks.."decent" they can do better for sure.

[Leon_0]

ALso here are my versions of the Granov suit. Granted I rushed it to show the VF supe , but I got it to pose decently..Im not so egotisical to say my way is better than Granovs. If thats what the director wanted , then I was willing to give him that..
This was made with real human proportions as I use scan data of a real person to build around








http://www.brandonperlow.com/GranovArmorAll.jpg I deffinetly Like this version alot more though. but I dunno if its just me but, the arms seem really short =/

[gdw]

Wow, this could be the best comic to film costume adaptation.

[explode7]

Since when IM looks like an alien?

[guitarsingerguy]

I prefer your Granov's design a bit more, however I'm not crazy about the ab section and the helmet is a bit too rounded. All in all though awesome job. I can see why Marvel wanted to talk to you.

[explode7]

But it looks plastic and flimsy not like how an iron suit would look.

[not_a_victim]

I deffinetly Like this version alot more though. but I dunno if its just me but, the arms seem really short =/
That, I believe is you eye playing tricks on you. You are probably measuring (with your eyes) from the bottom of the "shoulder pad", to the end of the arm. I thought the same thing when I first saw it, too. Then I made myself focus from the TOP of the shoulder pad to his hand, and it seemed alright.

[not_a_victim]

ALso here are my versions of the Granov suit. Granted I rushed it to show the VF supe , but I got it to pose decently..Im not so egotisical to say my way is better than Granovs. If thats what the director wanted , then I was willing to give him that..
This was made with real human proportions as I use scan data of a real person to build around








http://www.brandonperlow.com/GranovArmorAll.jpg


I'm NOT nitpicking, because this is awesome work, but why do the abdominal plates seem to be out of whack?

[not_a_victim]

Man, both sets of designs look awesome.

The only think I don't like about the Granov-style rendering the eye slits look way too narrow.

I like the original design renderings, especially the one of IM crouching, but I must agree with Nivek that it looks more like a robot than a man covered in armor. It reminds me of the samurai inspired design someone posted:

http://tinypic.com/157yfxf.jpg
I do not like this. The black under layer reminds me of stormtroopers, and the valance around his hips reminds me of samuri armor.

[xwolverine2]

looks like there going in the right direction (@ first post)

[jedimaster]

Damn man- they rejected those? I think they look great!

[Spade]

The first one isn't my cup of tea. It looks way too bulky, and the bicep plates are more akin to the wheels on a tractor trailer than anything else. The helmet protrudes to the point that it looks sort of silly. The second one is much better. It almost screams 'Extremis'. The chest plate looks great, the abdominal plates are really innovative, and the whole thing blends into the background not clashing with it like the first but blending in with it with ease.

All in all- the first is okay, the second one is a grand improvement.

[Kilva]

These rejected designs are normal, and why not the creators take a look to Ultimate Avenges the movie and get some ideas, the armor design looks good for me...

[GoldGoblin]

Glad it got rejected.

[General_Grievous]

bperlow, I love your suit renderings, I think you got the helmet design spot-on but personally I want to see the Iron Man costume look very minimalistic, and very similar to The Ultimates re-design. Bryan Hitch's version is great.

Well perhaps not totally like Ultimate Iron Man, as the helmet for that became more blocky and angular, but I'm interested in seeing how the action of Tony flying around comes off on-screen.

I don't want the suit to look too RoboCop-ish, I think it should be more sleek, almost sexier, than that.

Could someone do a design concept that is literally a 3D semi-realistic version of the teaser poster design?

[conan69]

Dont like it.

Im still hoping they go with the collapsible armor technology instead.

I like the less bulky designs,its more impressive.

[pika122689]

Those are horrible. The design they chose for the teaser poster is perfect.

[James"007"Bond]

Quite cool, could use some more detail in the face, and the top of the head by the fore head looks a tad too bulky but, still nice.

I hope the movie has a design with as much imagination and is faithful to the comic.

I'm tired of boring comic book movie costumes, like the X-men and all the leather crap. DD's suit would've been so much better looking had it been done like Spidey's.

With regards to the pics you posted, awesome design but needs some reconstruction of detail.