New Superman Returns X360 screens!

[WhatsHisFace]

http://images.ea.com/games/superman_returns/_img/screens/091406/4_full.jpg

http://images.ea.com/games/superman_returns/_img/screens/091406/5_full.jpg

http://images.ea.com/games/superman_returns/_img/screens/091406/3_full.jpg

http://images.ea.com/games/superman_returns/_img/screens/091406/2_full.jpg

[SouLeSS]

God that's an ugly rendor of well...everything I guess.

[WhatsHisFace]

Oh come on. It looks better than Saints Row.

[Sabretooth]

That third pic is ugly. But Superman himself looks kinda cool. :up:

[Mentok]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247363&page=6

A few more new pics.

[Hudson]

well his muscles have improved?

[WhatsHisFace]

So has the amount of action!

[WhatsHisFace]

So has the amount of action!

[Mentok]

So has the ammount of double posting :dry:

[Mentok]

The YOUR FACE thing is soooo old :(





and so is Your face!

:cmad:

[WhatsHisFace]

So has the ammount of double posting :dry:
Remember my 125 post glitch?! :woot:

[Hudson]

that was... insane. I shudder when I think back to it.

[Majik1387]

Looks pretty cool.

[TrailerCues]

Good Screens

[WhatsHisFace]

I think he's a bit too defined... he looks more like a Schumacher Batman... but oh well.

[Mr. Credible]

it's a free roaming game... about superman.

it'd be hard to screw this game up.

[WhatsHisFace]

I agree. Usually developers behind Superman games are awful (Tidus) but EA Tiburon is mediocre, so this game ought to be pretty decent.

[Edd Extraordinaire]

It'll probably be good.

[Zenien]

That looks pretty meh.

[BatFitz]

so does the PS3

[WhatsHisFace]

This game actually looks better than the PS3.

[ProjectPat2280]

AH, HOLY HELL!!! Im loving it!!!! Looks fanfreaking-tastic!!!!!! Damn i cant wait for this game, HELLZ YEA!

[Joker]

the model looks a bit clunky, and I wish the cape was brighter, but Metallo and the city look f**king beautiful

[Jerry]

Looks more like SuperGlossyMan.

[WhatsHisFace]

It looks like shut the H-E-Double Hockey Sticks up.

[Mr. Vice]

Looks like that delay really helped out.:up:

[THWIP*]

Looks like that delay really helped out.:up:


INDEED.......IT HELPED TO DELAY THE DISAPPOINTMENT AND NAUSEA. :oldrazz:

[Mr. Vice]

INDEED.......IT HELPED TO DELAY THE DISAPPOINTMENT AND NAUSEA. :oldrazz:

:cwink: True.

[Lando81]

I AM THE ONLY ONE looking FORWARD TO THIS GAME.

[ProjectPat2280]

I AM THE ONLY ONE looking FORWARD TO THIS GAME.

No youre not, this is my number 1 most anticipated game this yr. If i could have only 1 game this yr, itd be this one.

[BatFitz]

I'm really excited for this game! This is actually the reason I bought the 360...seriously...

[WhatsHisFace]

INDEED.......IT HELPED TO DELAY THE DISAPPOINTMENT AND NAUSEA. :oldrazz:
Not as much nausea as Spider-man 2's awful graphics caused.

[BatFitz]

I wasn't too disappointed by Spider-Man 2's graphics...I mean..at the time I'm sure that they were just trying to create a big city environment....I thought most of the building textures were okay...but the AI civilians were awful! Let's hope that the SM3 game will be a more realistic city as far as the map goes!

[ProjectPat2280]

I wasn't too disappointed by Spider-Man 2's graphics...I mean..at the time I'm sure that they were just trying to create a big city environment....I thought most of the building textures were okay...but the AI civilians were awful! Let's hope that the SM3 game will be a more realistic city as far as the map goes!

Oh, SM3 will be great, just like SR.

[DACMAN]

it's a free roaming game... about superman.

it'd be hard to screw this game up.
Never played Superman the man of steel (Xbox) have you?

And yes, it was free roam. There was even a function in the game called "Free Roam".

[DACMAN]

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/554412.asp?q=SUperman

[DACMAN]

http://www.gamerankings.com/screens5/930272/6.jpg I've never seen this one posted before.

[WhatsHisFace]

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/554412.asp?q=SUperman
That game was so hard. I barely beat that sucker. It was pretty bad, but still much better than Superman 64.

[DACMAN]

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/superman_061702_03.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/superman_061702_12.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/superman_061702_04.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/Shot020x-approved.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/superman_031502_04.jpg

[DACMAN]

That game was so hard. I barely beat that sucker. It was pretty bad, but still much better than Superman 64.
Yeah. I actually bought it. I figured Superman + Free Roam = Greatness. I was wrong. It wasn't awful, but it could have been much better. But I have to admit, it was fun flying around while listening to "Kyrptonite" and that other popular Superman song. Custom sound tracks are brilliant.

But look at the screen shots. There isn't that much of a difference in graphics from the current gen to the next gen as far as the city is concerned. I'll wait on the reviews this time.

[THWIP*]

Yeah. I actually bought it. I figured Superman + Free Roam = Greatness. I was wrong. It wasn't awful, but it could have been much better. But I have to admit, it was fun flying around while listening to "Kyrptonite" and that other popular Superman song. Custom sound tracks are brilliant.

But look at the screen shots. There isn't that much of a difference in graphics from the current gen to the next gen as far as the city is concerned. I'll wait on the reviews this time.


THAT'S MORE OF A CREDIT TO THE 'XBOX', WHICH DID FREE-ROAM RATHER WELL, COMPARED TO THE 'PS2'
THE FACT THAT THIS IS MULTI-PLATFORM.......AND 'EA' (WHICH OBVIOUSLY GO HAND-IN-HAND) MORE THAN EXPLAINS THE LACK OF NEXT-GEN PUNCH

[DACMAN]

You are correct sir.

[GL1]

I'm not excited, but I'll definitely rent it... if it's actually fun, I'll pick it up for good, even if I beat it one sitting... me and supes are cool like that...

Also, the fact that it's Superman free roaming makes this insanely EASY to f-up... Now... a Policeman free roaming... well... it just writes itself...

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah. I actually bought it. I figured Superman + Free Roam = Greatness. I was wrong. It wasn't awful, but it could have been much better. But I have to admit, it was fun flying around while listening to "Kyrptonite" and that other popular Superman song. Custom sound tracks are brilliant.

But look at the screen shots. There isn't that much of a difference in graphics from the current gen to the next gen as far as the city is concerned. I'll wait on the reviews this time.
The City is much bigger in the next gen version though. Superman: Man of Steel's levels were actually pretty small. Well, for a free-roamer.

[DACMAN]

Well, my point is that some people still believe that Superman+Freeroam= great game. It doesn't. A bigger world isn't going to fix it. They'd have to fix much with the man of steel to make it a great game. They need to have great gameplay. Making it free roam and big won't automatically make this a great game.

Not to mention the city in the current gen version looks much like the city in the next gen game. The graphics have been very "meh".

[imdaly]

THAT'S MORE OF A CREDIT TO THE 'XBOX', WHICH DID FREE-ROAM RATHER WELL, COMPARED TO THE 'PS2'
THE FACT THAT THIS IS MULTI-PLATFORM.......AND 'EA' (WHICH OBVIOUSLY GO HAND-IN-HAND) MORE THAN EXPLAINS THE LACK OF NEXT-GEN PUNCH

Actually, speaking of "Next-Gen Punch", didja hear that this SR game won't have a "punch" button??

There WILL be a "lift heavy things" a "catch falling things", and a "stare creepily at your ex-girlfriend from outside her window at night" button. :D

[ProjectPat2280]

Well, my point is that some people still believe that Superman+Freeroam= great game. It doesn't. ".

Ah but you forgot "next-gen" .

Brandon Routh as Superman + Freeroam + Huge ass city + NEXT GEN= FANTASTIC GAME!!!

Damn, is it November yet????

[BatFitz]

I'm excited to see the many parts of the city! Specifically with the huge tall buildings that are in the city. I've been following the contruction of the new WTC complex, and I've recently been fascinated with skyscrapers.

[WhatsHisFace]

"stare creepily at your ex-girlfriend from outside her window at night" button. :D
Hey..........

[Darphnugget]

does anyone know when this is due out in the uk at all? i can't seem to find any info except screenshots. :(

[Mentok]

Its due along with the DVD release of SUPERMAN RETURNS... Thats November 17 for the UK I believe.

[WhatsHisFace]

Well then I will hopefully be picking up this game in mid Nov! :D

[Dark_Lord]

EU release dates by smoothie (the guy at the ea forums):

Here you go:

Xbox 360 / NDS - 11/17
PS2 / Xbox - Winter (will be more specific shortly)
GBA - Winter (will be more specific shortly)


~ Smoothie

[Darphnugget]

Its due along with the DVD release of SUPERMAN RETURNS... Thats November 17 for the UK I believe.

Actually I've read on one of the xbox 360 sites that its going to be released on the 24th November.

[LexCorp]

Wo that is crap. I mean the city looks good enough to fly around in. But Supes......oh dear. Pass. I am sure it will look better when finished. I mean I am comparing this to MSG4.

[Ultimate_Superman]

That game was so hard. I barely beat that sucker. It was pretty bad, but still much better than Superman 64.Superman: MOS was not hard if you had a guide to the book :cwink::woot: I beat it in 3 days.

[Darphnugget]

thats just bout as good as cheating

[LexCorp]

Guide books = cheating

[Horrorfan]

Yeah. You hit the boss with the guide book and it takes ALL the boss health with one hit, and you swallow a page and it makes you unkillable.


So the dvd hits 17th as well? I might as well pick that up when I do the game....I promised gammy I'd give it a chance, so I will.

[블라스]

You don't have to buy it, rent it and see if you like it.
But thanks :O

And don't get the X-Men 3 dvd right away, they're making a 2 disc SE as we speak, I'll wait for that one.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Guide books = cheatingNo

Guide Book = Prep Time.

[ProjectPat2280]

No

Guide Book = Prep Time.


Guide Book = Ah who the f**k cares, just play the game.

[THWIP*]

Wo that is crap. I mean the city looks good enough to fly around in. But Supes......oh dear. Pass. I am sure it will look better when finished. I mean I am comparing this to MSG4.


MGS4 LOOKS LIKE CRAP AS WELL THOUGH. :huh:

[ProjectPat2280]

MGS4 LOOKS LIKE CRAP AS WELL THOUGH. :huh:

Hahaha, thats a joke.....right???

[THWIP*]

Hahaha, thats a joke.....right???


NO......IT LOOKS MEDIOCRE AS HELL; NOWHERE NEAR WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO PASS OFF AS "REAL-TIME, IN-GAME" LAST 'E3'. :dry:

[Dark_Lord]

The latest hands on impressions with EA's incarnation of the Man of Steel. (gamedaily.com) (http://xbox360.gamedaily.com/game/features/?gameid=4693&id=403)

[Ultimate_Superman]

Great Review. :up:

[ProjectPat2280]

Great Review. :up:

Hell yea. Damn i wish this game was out already.

[WhatsHisFace]

The latest hands on impressions with EA's incarnation of the Man of Steel. (gamedaily.com) (http://xbox360.gamedaily.com/game/features/?gameid=4693&id=403)
Awesome! Finally we get to hear something new. And something good! :D

[hippie_hunter]

What the f**k is going on. This is not the real WHF! The real WHF hates EA with a passion and would see this game for the most likely probable crap that it is.

[WhatsHisFace]

I love Sony too. And I think the Nintendo Wii will reach mass appeal!

I hate Microsoft and everything they've done for the industry.

[hippie_hunter]

I love Sony too. And I think the Nintendo Wii will reach mass appeal!

I hate Microsoft and everything they've done for the industry.

That's it, you're going to the hospital. You're not well :(

[TrailerCues]

What the f**k is going on. This is not the real WHF! The real WHF hates EA with a passion and would see this game for the most likely probable crap that it is.

Maybe he needs a good banning :woot:

[hey yo its sean]

NO......IT LOOKS MEDIOCRE AS HELL; NOWHERE NEAR WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO PASS OFF AS "REAL-TIME, IN-GAME" LAST 'E3'. :dry:

I think everyone should judge things two years before they're completed. Definitely the way to do things.

[DACMAN]

Yeah! No kidding. I don't even know why we have screen shots of games before the game is launched. It pisses me off to no end when people are like "that game looks amazing". And it's not even out yet for like a year!

[Dark_Lord]

New preview:

http://www.gamesasylum.com/showarticle.php?articleID=5183

[Darphnugget]

Nice.

I know a lot of people are sayin the graphics are a bit rubbish but if you think about it whenever a new console comes out the graphics always look a bit sharper on the next gen console... personally I like them... although the muscle defination is a bit OTT on superman himself.. I mean it ain't like that in the movie.

[WhatsHisFace]

Maybe he needs a good banning :woot:
Don't even joke about that. :csad:

[DACMAN]

Maybe he needs a good banning :woot:
Maybe your face needs a good banning.:cmad:

[Dark_Lord]

Theres a video here but the site requires registration and you have to be a journalist or something in order to register.

http://www.thenewsmarket.com/Media/media_Detail.aspx?GUID=9b00c47e-a611-4317-82ca-0264752d7953&CustomPage=0

The video is new. Shot on Sept. 25th.

and according to this http://www.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=69255 EA will show Superman Returns at X06.

EDIT: You can also see EAs X06 lineup here http://info.ea.com/

[WhatsHisFace]

Good! I'm looking forward to some new gameplay!

[Dark_Lord]

http://preview.thenewsmarket.com/Previews/ERTS/VideoAssets/ASF/ERTS_5189_47907.WMV

Thanks to R0bersdee at the EA forums. Its the video I was talking about in my previous post.

[Darphnugget]

OMG!

That looks fantastic.. way better than Spiderman.. and I'm more a spidey fan than a superfan

[Dark_Lord]

Yeah. The game does look awesome! The wait was worth it imo.

The only thing they havent fixed from what I saw is the cape moving sideways some times when you fly but that didnt bug me cause I thought the rest was awesome :D

[THWIP*]

http://preview.thenewsmarket.com/Previews/ERTS/VideoAssets/ASF/ERTS_5189_47907.WMV

Thanks to R0bersdee at the EA forums. Its the video I was talking about in my previous post.


I GOTTA ADMIT.....THIS GAME LOOKS MUCH MORE FUN THAN I EVER IMAGINED IT WOULD.


ONE THING THOUGH: WTF IS UP WITH SUPES' VOICE? :huh:

[Dark_Lord]

I GOTTA ADMIT.....THIS GAME LOOKS MUCH MORE FUN THAN I EVER IMAGINED IT WOULD.


ONE THING THOUGH: WTF IS UP WITH SUPES' VOICE? :huh:

You mean at the part where Supes throws that villain from the building? That wasnt Supes talking,. Plus...didnt they announce that the SR cast would voice the game characters?

EDIT: Youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6j66L3bKhs

[THWIP*]

You mean at the part where Supes throws that villain from the building? That wasnt Supes talking,. Plus...didnt they announce that the SR cast would voice the game characters?

EDIT: Youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6j66L3bKhs


WHOSE VOICE IS IT THEN? :huh:

[Dark_Lord]

WHOSE VOICE IS IT THEN? :huh:

I thinks its a villain thats talking to Supes. He says You're outvoted Superman and then at that point when Superman throws what I assume was on of the villains minion the villain says get lost.
I know get lost fits perfectly with Superman throwing the minion but its the same voice that said You're outvoted Superman....which of course Superman didnt say.

I THINK. :)

[THWIP*]

I thinks its a villain thats talking to Supes. He says You're outvoted Superman and then at that point when Superman throws what I assume was on of the villains minion the villain says get lost.
I know get lost fits perfectly with Superman throwing the minion but its the same voice that said You're outvoted Superman....which of course Superman didnt say.

I THINK. :)


OH, O.K.........I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE. :o


SO, IT MUST BE LEX, OR METALLO. :huh:

[Dark_Lord]

OH, O.K.........I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE. :o


SO, IT MUST BE LEX, OR METALLO. :huh:

I think its a villain called Riot. I've never heared of him really but based on the looks of his minions I was told that its him.

[WhatsHisFace]

I thinks its a villain thats talking to Supes. He says You're outvoted Superman and then at that point when Superman throws what I assume was on of the villains minion the villain says get lost.
I know get lost fits perfectly with Superman throwing the minion but its the same voice that said You're outvoted Superman....which of course Superman didnt say.

I THINK. :)
I like how he's saying that as he plummets to his demise, instead of "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" :D

But this game looks really great. I can hardly wait to get it!

[Dark_Lord]

I like how he's saying that as he plummets to his demise, instead of "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" :D

But this game looks really great. I can hardly wait to get it!

Ah....but I didnt say the guy he threw was THE villain. I said it was one of his minions.

Anyway it sure wasnt Supes cause they said the cast of the movie would voice the characters and that wasnt Routh from what I heared.

[WhatsHisFace]

Ah....but I didnt say the guy he threw was THE villain. I said it was one of his minions.

Anyway it sure wasnt Supes cause they said the cast of the movie would voice the characters and that wasnt Routh from what I heared.
Yeah, the only acting by "Routh" I heard in there, I believe, is when he's fighting that guy made of energy (I don't think it's on earth) and he says "my son" or something.

[Dark_Lord]

Yeah, the only acting by "Routh" I heard in there, I believe, is when he's fighting that guy made of energy (I don't think it's on earth) and he says "my son" or something.

Its on War World. And they said in there (cause there's no City Health Bar) in order to win the crowd has to like you. If they dont youy lose. And I dont think that was Routh either :oldrazz: :woot:

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah, hearing it for the third time makes it not sound like him.

I wonder if he talks during the game or only during cutscenes.

[Dark_Lord]

Yeah, hearing it for the third time makes it not sound like him.

I wonder if he talks during the game or only during cutscenes.

I hope he does.

[블라스]

http://preview.thenewsmarket.com/Previews/ERTS/VideoAssets/ASF/ERTS_5189_47907.WMV

Thanks to R0bersdee at the EA forums. Its the video I was talking about in my previous post.

Superman Returns just moved to my MUST BUY list.
I'm sorry and I take back anything bad I might have said about this game, EA really DID work a lot on the game since I last saw it :up:

Also....playable "Bizarro"? Destruction mode? :eek:

[THWIP*]

Superman Returns just moved to my MUST BUY list.
I'm sorry and I take back anything bad I might have said about this game, EA really DID work a lot on the game since I last saw it :up:

Also....playable "Bizarro"? Destruction mode? :eek:



I TOLD YOU.... ;)

[블라스]

Oh yeah :O

[WhatsHisFace]

Bizarro... sad.

[WhatsHisFace]

Bizarro... sad.

[Dark_Lord]

Superman Returns just moved to my MUST BUY list.
I'm sorry and I take back anything bad I might have said about this game, EA really DID work a lot on the game since I last saw it :up:

Also....playable "Bizarro"? Destruction mode? :eek:

EA suprised us this time. :D

and yes thats a mode called Bizzaro Mode where you have to destroy the city. Looks cool.

[Dark_Lord]

same video, better quality:

http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3100_1_en.html

[ProjectPat2280]

I knew it, i knew this game was going to look AMAZING. Holy hell that video just got me more excited for this game, and i didnt think that was possible. Any word on an X06 demo, maybe, possibly?

[Mr. Credible]

http://preview.thenewsmarket.com/Previews/ERTS/VideoAssets/ASF/ERTS_5189_47907.WMV

Thanks to R0bersdee at the EA forums. Its the video I was talking about in my previous post.

the gameplay looked much better than the last few times i've seen it, but tell me that's not the 360 version.

[ProjectPat2280]

the gameplay looked much better than the last few times i've seen it, but tell me that's not the 360 version.

Im not sure, id imagine it is. It looks fan- freaking- tastic!!!!!!!

[WhatsHisFace]

This game does look pretty good. Looks doable on an Xbox, but it's still not bad.

[THWIP*]

This game does look pretty good. Looks doable on an Xbox, but it's still not bad.


THE MORE I LOOK AT IT, THE MORE I REALIZE IT'S THE STYLE THAT MAKES IT LOOK LESS "NEXT-GEN". IT'S IDENTICAL TO 'CRACKDOWN' IN THAT RESPECT.
I GUARANTEE YOU THE 'PS2' VERSION WILL BE LAUGHABLE........NOT EVEN WORTH PLAYING. HELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY SCREENS FOR ANYTHING FROM THE 'PS2' VERSION........THEY PROBABLY ARE AFRAID TO SHOW THEM. :oldrazz:

[WhatsHisFace]

Knowing what the PS2 can (barely) render at this time, especially in a free-roam world, makes me think it's going to look like Driver 2 on the PS1 if it's lucky.

[Darphnugget]

OOo I can't wait for this game... it soooo rules lol

Anyone know when the Demo is going to be on the marketplace?

[WhatsHisFace]

Hopefully this second, but I haven't a clue.

[BatFitz]

heh....^wishful thinking...but you never know....tht sonic one came out of nowhere...

[THWIP*]

Knowing what the PS2 can (barely) render at this time, especially in a free-roam world, makes me think it's going to look like Driver 2 on the PS1 if it's lucky.



THEY SHOULD'VE JUST DEV'D IT FOR 'PS3'/360 ONLY. :o

[WhatsHisFace]

THEY SHOULD'VE JUST DEV'D IT FOR 'PS3'/360 ONLY. :o
True, but that wouldn't have helped too much. :D

[ProjectPat2280]

Is EA releasing a demo for SR during X06 or is all this demo talk just wishful thinking?

[Dark_Lord]

New youtube link cause the other got removed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjj9Sx-8VCs

I have no idea if EA will release a demo...

[BatFitz]

At this point we've had no hintings from EACOMSMOOTHIE from the EA boards about a demo...but you never know....he didn't even know Superman Returns was going to be at X06 so....

[The Last Meatbag]

This am no awesome
Me am no get to play as not Bizarro?
Me not buy this game
Me hope we never get game demo
Me no think they make best Superman game yet


Me am hate this.

[TrailerCues]

:huh::dry::confused:

[The Last Meatbag]

...forwards to the graveyard of solitude

[Axid]

steam my vegetables

[BatFitz]

This am no awesome
Me am no get to play as not Bizarro?
Me not buy this game
Me hope we never get game demo
Me no think they make best Superman game yet


Me am hate this.

I'll assume that's Bizarro language so I'll translate cuz I'm bored...

This is awesome
I can play as Bizarro?
I will buy this game
I hope we get a demo
They've made the best Superman game yet...

[The Last Meatbag]

That am no good translation at all :o

[DACMAN]

Heh :D

[Sloth7d]

:rolleyes:

[WhatsHisFace]

Bizarro... happy.

[블라스]

Perhaps....Hulk could really beat Superman?

[DACMAN]

PERHAPS!?!?!?! HULK would smash Superman! HULK is the strongest one there is! The madder HULK gets the stronger HULK gets. Superman can get as pissed off as he likes, he'll never be the "strongest one there is!"

[블라스]

Yeah, I was mad when Supes beat him in the latest crossover :down :(

But yeah, Hulk wasn't probably pissed enough :up:

[WhatsHisFace]

Neither Superman or the Hulk can be killed.

[블라스]

That's true.
Even when Superman "died", I knew he wasn't really dead dead.
He was going to come back.

It was all probably a Batman plan :up:

[Sloth7d]

PERHAPS!?!?!?! HULK would smash Superman! HULK is the strongest one there is! The madder HULK gets the stronger HULK gets. Superman can get as pissed off as he likes, he'll never be the "strongest one there is!"
Yeah right. Supes would just throw him into the sun.Your ignorance is blinding.

[BatFitz]

^lol

[DACMAN]

Yeah, I was mad when Supes beat him in the latest crossover :down :(

But yeah, Hulk wasn't probably pissed enough :up:
Well, three things.

1. Those fights were a popularity contest. As much as I hate Lobo and love Wolverine, it's insane to think he could be Lobo any day of the week.

2. I have two other issues where they fight. In one no one wins, the other HULK wins. He knocks Supes into space. Man I love the HULK.

3. He'd be no match for the Savage HULK.

[블라스]

Yeah right. Supes would just throw him into the sun.Your ignorance is blinding.

Whoa! Easy, tiger....there's no need for that kind of talk.

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah right. Supes would just throw him into the sun.Your ignorance is blinding.
Hmmm... rather true. If he could lift a continent, he can do just about anything.

If Hulk threw him, he'd fly right back.

Yeah, Superman's pretty much unstoppable. The only thing that can end him is kryptonite, but even that's not immediate, and it doesnt steal his powers so he can just do whatever while taking damage.

[블라스]

Well, three things.

1. Those fights were a popularity contest. As much as I hate Lobo and love Wolverine, it's insane to think he could be Lobo any day of the week.

2. I have two other issues where they fight. In one no one wins, the other HULK wins. He knocks Supes into space. Man I love the HULK.

3. He'd be no match for the Savage HULK.

LOL yeah, Wolverine beating Lobo was RETARDED.

[WhatsHisFace]

Well, three things.

1. Those fights were a popularity contest. As much as I hate Lobo and love Wolverine, it's insane to think he could be Lobo any day of the week.

2. I have two other issues where they fight. In one no one wins, the other HULK wins. He knocks Supes into space. Man I love the HULK.

3. He'd be no match for the Savage HULK.
Why couldn't Superman fly back and freeze him with ice breath, then leave him on the moon?

[DACMAN]

Yeah right. Supes would just throw him into the sun.Your ignorance is blinding.
You're trolling! You're ruining this thread! Somebody do something. Waa! Waa!


Just like he threw Doomsday? You think the HULK would let him do that? And even if he did, the HULK is a survivor. His body regenerates at a rate so fast it can regenerate back from practically nothing. He'd survive on the sun long enough to get so angry as to leep off the sun and back to earth to kill Superman.

I read both HULK and Superman. And I can tell you, if they really got it on, one man walks away, it would be HULK.

[블라스]

Why couldn't Superman fly back and freeze him with ice breath, then leave him on the moon?

DACMAN's siggy FTW!

Occurence: Marvel Comics Presents # 52
Three young aliens are playing a game in outer space and knock an asteroid twice the size of Earth into a collision path with it. The Hulk, with the help of a anti-magnetic jet pack, launches into space and destroys the asteroid with a single punch.

Occurence: Secret Wars #4
In the Secret Wars, the Beyonder takes a number of villains and heroes from Earth and put them on a planet to fight. During one of the early battles, a 150 billion ton mountain is dropped on the heroes and the Hulk is able to hold up the entire mountain by himself until they figure out how to get out.

Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #144
The Hulk is fighting Dr. Doom and Doom encases the Hulk is a force field which he says is so strong that nothing in the universe can shatter it. Needless to say, the Hulk then proceeds to break out of the force field.

Yeah, the Hulk is awesome and it actually would be a very even fight.

[WhatsHisFace]

You're trolling! You're ruining this thread! Somebody do something. Waa! Waa!


Just like he threw Doomsday? You think the HULK would let him do that? And even if he did, the HULK is a survivor. His body regenerates at a rate so fast it can regenerate back from practically nothing. He'd survive on the sun long enough to get so angry as to leep off the sun and back to earth to kill Superman.

I read both HULK and Superman. And I can tell you, if they really got it on, one man walks away, it would be HULK.
Doesn't the Hulk need to breathe?

[Sloth7d]

You're trolling! You're ruining this thread! Somebody do something. Waa! Waa!


Just like he threw Doomsday? You think the HULK would let him do that? And even if he did, the HULK is a survivor. His body regenerates at a rate so fast it can regenerate back from practically nothing. He'd survive on the sun long enough to get so angry as to leep off the sun and back to earth to kill Superman.

I read both HULK and Superman. And I can tell you, if they really got it on, one man walks away, it would be HULK.
So he can regenerate from ashes? Use some braincells please!
Besides whos to say Hulk wouldn't lose before he gets pumped enough. Juggernaut owned him like 20 times in the past. And in a crossover Juggs lost to Wonderwoman easily.
All Supes has to do is rush him with a few hits and its a done deal.
BTW: Didn't you read IC supes owned Domsday in a few hits in their rematch.

[DACMAN]

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/supernovatorch.html

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/finfangfoomresistance.html

Fooms fire is hotter than the sun, so is the Torch's super nova. IN YOUR FACE SLOTh7893203884d!

[DACMAN]

Doesn't the Hulk need to breathe?
He can hold his breath same as Supes for a long time. But even if he runs out of air his body adapts to the environment to survive no matter the conditions.

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/powersabilities.html
Bottom of the page.

I have no doubt the HULK's body would some how adapt to outer space.

[Sloth7d]

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/supernovatorch.html

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/finfangfoomresistance.html

Fooms fire is hotter than the sun, so is the Torch's super nova. IN YOUR FACE SLOTh7893203884d!
Fooms fire<the sun
And eitherway how would the hulk get back to earth? how would he breathe? Please fill in the holes with your erudite explanations. I'm all ears.:whatever:

[DACMAN]

So he can regenerate from ashes?
Yes.


Use some braincells please!
Dude, we're talking about fictional characters fighting. You don't have to get to offensive.

Besides whos to say Hulk wouldn't lose before he gets pumped enough. Juggernaut owned him like 20 times in the past. And in a crossover Juggs lost to Wonderwoman easily.
All Supes has to do is rush him with a few hits and its a done deal.
BTW: Didn't you read IC supes owned Domsday in a few hits in their rematch.
Umm. No I have a few issues where Jugs and HULK duke it out. The HULK has used his head to shatter Jugs helmet. The only issue I can think of that Jugs "won" was when he fought the merged HULK. Which in the next issue he looses to the HULK. The HULK always wins in the end. Or how about the issue the HULK stops Jug-head in his tracks. No one has done that but the HULK.

[DACMAN]

Fooms fire<the sun
And eitherway how would the hulk get back to earth? how would he breathe? Please fill in the holes with your erudite explanations. I'm all ears.:whatever:
Well first off, you're assuming the HULK would let Supes do that to him. Assuming he does he can hold his breath for a long time, as Supes does. He would jump back as his leaping distance increases with his anger. And I'm sure he'd be pissed after being thrown towards the sun. But what would really happen is if Supes managed to get ahold of him, HULK would grab him before he was thrown. And Supes wouldn't be able to break his grip. They both can hold there breath, but only one can adapt to survive any environment.

At the end of the day it comes down to who will land the killing blow. That would be the HULK. Nothing can kill him. And eventually he'd get so angry as to punch Supes hard enough that his head would snap around and break his neck. That's how Doomsday won. He got stronger as they fought. Supes was worn down, the HULK never tires.

[DACMAN]

Fooms fire<the sun
And eitherway how would the hulk get back to earth? how would he breathe? Please fill in the holes with your erudite explanations. I'm all ears.:whatever:
Look if they really got it on, the fight would end with Supes head exploding due to the HULK's signiture move.

What senses of Supes is increases by 1000 percent? Answer... All of them including hearing. I have an issue and once on the cartoon series where Supes is exposed to super sonic noise so loud it shatters windows and shacks the ground and makes his ears bleed knocking him on the ground. I believe in one of the movies he's hurt by a loud pitch noise sent out by Lex. He can be hurt by sound. The HULK has a clap so loud it can send out a shock wave strong enough to shatter stone and almost kill Wolverine. And we all know Superman has better hearing than Wolverine.

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/wolverinethunderclap.html

And that's the Grey HULK who's not as strong as the current HULK.

Check mate.

[THWIP*]

Well first off, you're assuming the HULK would let Supes do that to him. Assuming he does he can hold his breath for a long time, as Supes does. He would jump back as his leaping distance increases with his anger. And I'm sure he'd be pissed after being thrown towards the sun. But what would really happen is if Supes managed to get ahold of him, HULK would grab him before he was thrown. And Supes wouldn't be able to break his grip. They both can hold there breath, but only one can adapt to survive any environment.

At the end of the day it comes down to who will land the killing blow. That would be the HULK. Nothing can kill him. And eventually he'd get so angry as to punch Supes hard enough that his head would snap around and break his neck. That's how Doomsday won. He got stronger as they fought. Supes was worn down, the HULK never tires.



NOT TO MENTION, HULK WOULD HAVE HIS GREEN, KRYPTONITE-INFUSED SUN TAN LOTION ON, WHICH WOULD PROTECT HIM FROM THE SUN, AND WEAKEN SUPES ALL AT ONCE.........AND SUPES WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE. :wow: :D

[DACMAN]

Fooms fire<the sun

And the Torch?

[DACMAN]

NOT TO MENTION, HULK WOULD HAVE HIS GREEN, KRYPTONITE-INFUSED SUN TAN LOTION ON, WHICH WOULD PROTECT HIM FROM THE SUN, AND WEAKEN SUPES ALL AT ONCE.........AND SUPES WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE. :wow: :D
...yeah, that works too.:woot:

[ProjectPat2280]

Nah, Supes is too damn fast, plus hes got flight, heat vision, super breath and well, the only thing that can hurt him is Kryptonite, so unless Hulk can grab him some of that, game over. Supes 1, Hulk 0.

[DACMAN]

Yeah, because Doomsday was a walking stick of Kryptonite. He CAN be hurt by a being who's strenght grows as the fight goes on. He can be killed by a being who's strenght grows as he fights. The HULK would take a beating because Supes is faster, he wouldn't lay a hand on him for a while. But as he flew around and layed down punch after punch on the HULK he would grow tired (as seen in the Death of Superman). As the HULK doesn't. He would only grow stronger as they fought. Eventually the HULK would make contact with a punch strong enough to kill Supes. Doomsday did it, the only difference is that the HULK can't be killed, Doomsday day can and was.

All else fails, the HULK eventually does a thunderclap and explodes Supes head.http://www.incrediblehulk.com/wolverinethunderclap.html Given his sense of hearing is 1000x more powerful than Logan's.

[BatFitz]

I say we just find somewhere else to move this Hulk Vs. Superman debate....BACK to the Videogame...

[WhatsHisFace]

I agree.

So... is this the 360's first superhero game? Aside from that X-men port crap?

[Darphnugget]

Doomsday did it, the only difference is that the HULK can't be killed, Doomsday day can and was.

Doomsday was only knocked unconcious when he killed superman

[AFan 2]

For Starters you can not compare doomsday to Hulk just because they are both big and strong and jump fast, Doomsday also has superspeed as he has punched the flash before and in the fight between Superman and Doomsday Superman said he has never seen anyone move as fast other than the flash.Hulk has had difficulty punching spiderman before and he is just agile and has no superspeed, Superman can run or fly from one continent to the next is seconds.Secondly, Yeah Hulk gets madder the stronger hulk gets but Superman starts off allot stronger than Hulk. To start with Hulk has trouble with throwing tanks and so on but Superman can lift Continents and Aircraft carriers, so Hulk has to get really angry just to match Superman. Yeah Hulk may have punched an astoroid in Space but in space there is no Gravity so anyone can pick up objects that are usually not within there weight limit. Thridly, Hulk has been knocked unconcious before and gases have worked on him he is not as invulnerable as superman has been shown to be for example Hulk has been impaled and wolverine cuts him whenever the two duel. Superman has survived flying through a sun, atomic explosions and much more. So the Winner is Superman!!! but DC heros are all overpowered anyway that Marvel Heros really don't stand a chance.Back onto topic yeah Superman the game looks ok but for me its all about the game content and gameplay. If its as good as HULK Ultimate destruction i will be happy, because to date that is the best Superhero game.(That is one battle Hulk has one so far, but that may change)

[Darphnugget]

For Starters you can not compare doomsday to Hulk just because they are both big and strong and jump fast, Doomsday also has superspeed as he has punched the flash before and in the fight between Superman and Doomsday Superman said he has never seen anyone move as fast other than the flash.Hulk has had difficulty punching spiderman before and he is just agile and has no superspeed, Superman can run or fly from one continent to the next is seconds.Secondly, Yeah Hulk gets madder the stronger hulk gets but Superman starts off allot stronger than Hulk. To start with Hulk has trouble with throwing tanks and so on but Superman can lift Continents and Aircraft carriers, so Hulk has to get really angry just to match Superman. Yeah Hulk may have punched an astoroid in Space but in space there is no Gravity so anyone can pick up objects that are usually not within there weight limit. Thridly, Hulk has been knocked unconcious before and gases have worked on him he is not as invulnerable as superman has been shown to be for example Hulk has been impaled and wolverine cuts him whenever the two duel. Superman has survived flying through a sun, atomic explosions and much more. So the Winner is Superman!!! but DC heros are all overpowered anyway that Marvel Heros really don't stand a chance.Back onto topic yeah Superman the game looks ok but for me its all about the game content and gameplay. If its as good as HULK Ultimate destruction i will be happy, because to date that is the best Superhero game.(That is one battle Hulk has one so far, but that may change)

Where in my state ment did i come Doomsday and Hulk? All I said was Doomsday wasn't killed when he killed superman just knocked unconsious

[AFan 2]

Sorry for the confusion, i was responding to all the other posts in the thread comparing doomsday to hulk.

Oh and Doomsday was killed by Superman but he is immortal and came back to life. It was stated in Superman Doomsday hunter prey that doomsday could be killed but he would come back immune to the source that killed him, they showed an example of this with an energy being that killed Doomsday. However in the rematch doomsday spanked him.

Doomsday is the Ultimate adaptor.

And in my years of collecting the Hulk no where have I seen that the Hulk can adapt to any environment. Maybe he can adapt to any environment on earth but i doubt he could adapt to no needing to breath. If that were the case i and i were the hulk i would be exposing myself to every environment possible making me unbeatable.

[Darphnugget]

Well yeah thats a no brainer in that sense but well the hulk is a no brainer

Hulk Dumb!

[ProjectPat2280]

So no demo of this game anytime soon???

[AFan 2]

Yes Hulk dumb.

However his game Ultimate destruction is by far the best Superhero game to date. Although Spiderman 2 was good and you got a good sense of what it was like to be spidy, Hulk did that but in a big way. The action just felt Hulk like, the extras were great(did spiderman 2 have any??) and the story was good.

I thought Ultimate Spidy could have been better for starters the web slinging from Spiderman 2 didnt need fixing.

Now Superman, i sooooo want this game to rule, it has potential. I want to be putting this in the machine even though i have completed the story game to play mini games and unlock everything. When this got delayed i was actually quite happy because it means they are not just willing to turn out any old tripe. However until we hold it in our hands we won't know if this delivers(reviews can not always bbe trusted)

Anywho i hope Superman is good, i can then own all my favorite heros as video games.

They just then need to do a decent Batman game and Flash game.

[Darphnugget]

any superhero game that comes out has to do the go anywhere factor like Spiderman 2, ultimate spidey, Hulk and now superman

[WhatsHisFace]

I kind of think Superman would just freeze the Hulk, and at light speed fly him into the middle of space, and then Superman would fly back.

Once the Hulk got free, he'd have no air, and no traction to get back to earth, and he'd die of either hypothermia or lack of air. (Space is an icy cold vaccuum).

[ProjectPat2280]

I kind of think Superman would just freeze the Hulk, and at light speed fly him into the middle of space, and then Superman would fly back.

Once the Hulk got free, he'd have no air, and no traction to get back to earth, and he'd die of either hypothermia or lack of air. (Space is an icy cold vaccuum).

Yep, i think you are correct.
There, i think we have settled this argument, back to everything Superman Returns: the video game

[THWIP*]

I kind of think Superman would just freeze the Hulk, and at light speed fly him into the middle of space, and then Superman would fly back.

Once the Hulk got free, he'd have no air, and no traction to get back to earth, and he'd die of either hypothermia or lack of air. (Space is an icy cold vaccuum).


EXCEPT HULK'S SKIN IS IMPERVIOUS TO COLD. :o

[WhatsHisFace]

EXCEPT HULK'S SKIN IS IMPERVIOUS TO COLD. :o
There are levels of being impervious to cold, but it's impossible to be impervious to ZERO ATOMIC MOTION. That would unquestionably freeze anything.

But say the Hulk somehow could avoid freezing at zero degrees Kelvin, absolute zero. Okay, so Superman grabs onto Hulk, flies into a huge void in space, lets go, and flies back to earth.

The Hulk could not propel hismself back in any way, and would die in space.

[THWIP*]

There are levels of being impervious to cold, but it's impossible to be impervious to ZERO ATOMIC MOTION. That would unquestionably freeze anything.

But say the Hulk somehow could avoid freezing at zero degrees Kelvin, absolute zero. Okay, so Superman grabs onto Hulk, flies into a huge void in space, lets go, and flies back to earth.

The Hulk could not propel hismself back in any way, and would die in space.


SUPES GETS HIS POWERS FROM EARTH'S SUN; IF HE GOES THAT FAR INTO SPACE, HOW DOES HE HAVE THE POWER TO RETURN HIMSELF?


AND, THE SONIC CLAP COULD BE USED AS PROPULSION. THERE IS NO KNOWN "VOID" IN SPACE, WHERE THERE'D BE ZERO MASS FOR THE SOUNDWAVES TO REACT WITH. :oldrazz:

[ProjectPat2280]

Alright, i think this argument has been drawn out long enough. HULK is invincible and cant be stopped, Superman has a plethora of super powers and cant be stopped, theyd end up killing each other, therefore no one wins.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well in DC vs Marvel we all know who lost and you can call it a BS fight all you want a lost is a lost.

[WhatsHisFace]

SUPES GETS HIS POWERS FROM EARTH'S SUN; IF HE GOES THAT FAR INTO SPACE, HOW DOES HE HAVE THE POWER TO RETURN HIMSELF?


AND, THE SONIC CLAP COULD BE USED AS PROPULSION. THERE IS NO KNOWN "VOID" IN SPACE, WHERE THERE'D BE ZERO MASS FOR THE SOUNDWAVES TO REACT WITH. :oldrazz:
He doesn't need constant sunlight exposure to retain his powers. It's not like every night when the sun sets he stops flying? :confused:

[AFan 2]

Except Hulk has been stopped on countless occasions, People on these boards keep saying he is unkillable and make large statments that have never been backed up.

Superman was stopped once but it took death to do it.

Space is a void, Hulk could not exist there yes he could survive the cold but he can not hold his breath indefinetly. His sonic clap would not work in space either, there is no sound in space it is a void!! also what would he be propelling off, he would not be able to get himself moving unless he could propel himself off something.

Superman could fly hulk somewhere and fly back to earth because he has done deep space travel hundreds of times, he has vast solar reserves and has lasted weeks in space before he started to weaken, superman also gets his powers from a yellow sun well heres news for you all those stars in space well there Suns, im sure supes could find another sun to recharge in the unlikely event that his solar stores were spent.

Either that or he could just throw hulk into deep space, as there is no gravity in space hulk would just keep going in the direction he was thrown unless he hit something.

Superman could heat vision hulk, hit him 500,000 times in a second with his superspeed (which would actually knock the Hulk out)and then freeze him in a 30 second gap hulk would not have time to even get angry. He could then grap hulk using superspeed and fly into space in 30 seconds not giving hulk time to break out of the ice and then using telescopic vision map out a route with no planatary bodies in the way or astroids and then just throw the hulk into deep space. Hulk would drift for ever but be at peace because there would be no one around to hurt Hulk this would make him calm and he would revert back to Bruce Banner where he would either freeze to death in a second, his veins would explode or he would sufforcate.

So yeah Superman wins, The Hulk fans on this board seem to think Hulk has no limits but i am affraid Hulk does. Superman has very few limits. But to tell you the truth a hero with no limits is a boring read because nothing is challaging.

[THWIP*]

Well in DC vs Marvel we all know who lost and you can call it a BS fight all you want a lost is a lost.


WAY TO CIRCUMVENT THE FACTS. :woot:


DAN JURGENS WROTE FOR DC.......AND SPENT A LONG TIME WRITING FOR 'SUPES'. I DON'T THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO CALL HIS WRITING BIASED
MARVEL WON THE OVERALL SERIES, AND THE VOTES WERE NEVER DISCLOSED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL FIGHTS. FOR ALL WE KNOW, IT COULD'VE BEEN A TIE, AND JURGENS HAD THE TIE-BREAKING VOTE ON HOW THE FIGHT ENDED.
AND YES.......THE ENTIRE MARVEL VS DC THING WAS BOGUS AS HELL, AND A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME. IT ONLY SERVED TO HELP THE 2 COMPANIES, AT A TIME WHEN THINGS WERE SHAKY FOR BOTH

[ProjectPat2280]

Except Hulk has been stopped on countless occasions, People on these boards keep saying he is unkillable and make large statments that have never been backed up.

Superman was stopped once but it took death to do it.

Space is a void, Hulk could not exist there yes he could survive the cold but he can not hold his breath indefinetly. His sonic clap would not work in space either, there is no sound in space it is a void!! also what would he be propelling off, he would not be able to get himself moving unless he could propel himself off something.

Superman could fly hulk somewhere and fly back to earth because he has done deep space travel hundreds of times, he has vast solar reserves and has lasted weeks in space before he started to weaken, superman also gets his powers from a yellow sun well heres news for you all those stars in space well there Suns, im sure supes could find another sun to recharge in the unlikely event that his solar stores were spent.

Either that or he could just throw hulk into deep space, as there is no gravity in space hulk would just keep going in the direction he was thrown unless he hit something.

Superman could heat vision hulk Pound he 500,000 time in a second with his superspeed (which would actually knock the Hulk out)and then freeze him in a 30 second gap hulk would not have time to even get angry. He could then grap hulk using superspeed and fly into space in 30 seconds not giving hulk time to break out of the ice and then using telescopic vision map out a route with no planatary bodies in the way or astroids and then just throw the hulk into deep space. Hulk would drift for ever but be at peace because there would be no one around to hurt Hulk this would make him calm and he would revert back to Bruce Banner where he would either freeze to death in a second, his veins would explode or he would sufforcate.

So yeah Superman wins, The Hulk fans on this board seem to think Hulk has no limits but i am affraid Hulk does. Superman has very few limits. But to tell you the truth a hero with no limits is a boring read because nothing is challaging.

Hm, good points. Supes 2, Hulk 0.
Oh and WELCOME TO THE HYPE!!!

[THWIP*]

He doesn't need constant sunlight exposure to retain his powers. It's not like every night when the sun sets he stops flying? :confused:



NO, BUT HE NEEDS TO BE WITHIN A REASONABLE PROXIMITY TO IT. HE DOES INDEED USE THE SUN TO "RECHARGE HIS BATTERIES", SO TO SPEAK; EVEN THE MOVIE SHOWED HIM DOING SO.

[WhatsHisFace]

Except Hulk has been stopped on countless occasions, People on these boards keep saying he is unkillable and make large statments that have never been backed up.

Superman was stopped once but it took death to do it.

Space is a void, Hulk could not exist there yes he could survive the cold but he can not hold his breath indefinetly. His sonic clap would not work in space either, there is no sound in space it is a void!! also what would he be propelling off, he would not be able to get himself moving unless he could propel himself off something.

Superman could fly hulk somewhere and fly back to earth because he has done deep space travel hundreds of times, he has vast solar reserves and has lasted weeks in space before he started to weaken, superman also gets his powers from a yellow sun well heres news for you all those stars in space well there Suns, im sure supes could find another sun to recharge in the unlikely event that his solar stores were spent.

Either that or he could just throw hulk into deep space, as there is no gravity in space hulk would just keep going in the direction he was thrown unless he hit something.

Superman could heat vision hulk, hit him 500,000 times in a second with his superspeed (which would actually knock the Hulk out)and then freeze him in a 30 second gap hulk would not have time to even get angry. He could then grap hulk using superspeed and fly into space in 30 seconds not giving hulk time to break out of the ice and then using telescopic vision map out a route with no planatary bodies in the way or astroids and then just throw the hulk into deep space. Hulk would drift for ever but be at peace because there would be no one around to hurt Hulk this would make him calm and he would revert back to Bruce Banner where he would either freeze to death in a second, his veins would explode or he would sufforcate.

So yeah Superman wins, The Hulk fans on this board seem to think Hulk has no limits but i am affraid Hulk does. Superman has very few limits. But to tell you the truth a hero with no limits is a boring read because nothing is challaging.
I actually agree with this scenario.

And whoever said the Hulk could return to earth from the sun... no. If the Hulk didn't burn up, the oxygen in his lungs would, and even then he wouldn't have the leg strength to jump from the sun to earth. It's just not possible. It takes light eight minutes to get here from the sun, and I don't know if anyone knows this, but that's really freakin far.

[AFan 2]

NO, BUT HE NEEDS TO BE WITHIN A REASONABLE PROXIMITY TO IT. HE DOES INDEED USE THE SUN TO &quot;RECHARGE HIS BATTERIES&quot;, SO TO SPEAK; EVEN THE MOVIE SHOWED HIM DOING SO.
He recharged in the Movie because Kryptoninte Drains his Solar stores, thats why he becomes weak, so yes he needed to recharge. Normally it requires SUPER SUPER feats to even begin to drain his stores. And in the Exile series when Superman left earth his stores lasted for weeks away from the Sun before he began to weaken.

[Ultimate_Superman]

WAY TO CIRCUMVENT THE FACTS. :woot:

DAN JURGENS WROTE FOR DC.......AND SPENT A LONG TIME WRITING FOR 'SUPES'. I DON'T THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO CALL HIS WRITING BIASED
MARVEL WON THE OVERALL SERIES, AND THE VOTES WERE NEVER DISCLOSED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL FIGHTS. FOR ALL WE KNOW, IT COULD'VE BEEN A TIE, AND JURGENS HAD THE TIE-BREAKING VOTE ON HOW THE FIGHT ENDED.
AND YES.......THE ENTIRE MARVEL VS DC THING WAS BOGUS AS HELL, AND A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME. IT ONLY SERVED TO HELP THE 2 COMPANIES, AT A TIME WHEN THINGS WERE SHAKY FOR BOTHBut did the Hulk lose the fight????? It's a simple yes or no question.:woot:

[AFan 2]

Hm, good points. Supes 2, Hulk 0.
Oh and WELCOME TO THE HYPE!!!
Thanks

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah, he was stabbed with Kryptonite and STILL flew carrying a continent, used heat vision, and fell to earth from space, which was such a hard landing it left a pond-sized crater.

[THWIP*]

Yeah, he was stabbed with Kryptonite and STILL flew carrying a continent, used heat vision, and fell to earth from space, which was such a hard landing it left a pond-sized crater.



YEAH....A CONTINENT MADE PRIMARILY OF KRYPTONITE......WITH SHARDS JUST CENTIMETERS FROM HIS FACE, AT THAT...........COMPLETELY RETARDED AND INCONSISTENT. :down:whatever:

[THWIP*]

But did the Hulk lose the fight????? It's a simple yes or no question.:woot:



ACCORDING TO ONE BIASED SUPERMAN/DC WRITER.....YES. :oldrazz:

[WhatsHisFace]

YEAH....A CONTINENT MADE PRIMARILY OF KRYPTONITE......WITH SHARDS JUST CENTIMETERS FROM HIS FACE, AT THAT...........COMPLETELY RETARDED AND INCONSISTENT. :down:whatever:
Superman is really tough.

[THWIP*]

Superman is really tough.


LOL. :woot:



BTW, I REALLY DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT ANY OF THIS......I'M JUST BORED, AND I HATE DC. :oldrazz:

[AFan 2]

YEAH....A CONTINENT MADE PRIMARILY OF KRYPTONITE......WITH SHARDS JUST CENTIMETERS FROM HIS FACE, AT THAT...........COMPLETELY RETARDED AND INCONSISTENT. :down:whatever:
this argument always makes me laugh, if you were watching the film you wouldve seen that:A: it was laced with Kryptonite, it was not made from Kryptonite. If it was made from the stuff superman would have seen it a mile of as a big chunk of green Kryptonite but it was mixed with other rock too hence the effects were not instant.B: He burrowed deep under the earth and not only picked up the continent but a large amount of normal rock too. Now if you were actually watching the film you would see that the normal rock was falling away and then the Kryptonite started to poke through but by that time he had pretty much got it into space and the higher you go the less effect gravity has on it.

[WhatsHisFace]

this argument always makes me laugh, if you were watching the film you wouldve seen that:A: it was laced with Kryptonite, it was not made from Kryptonite. If it was made from the stuff superman would have seen it a mile of as a big chunk of green Kryptonite but it was mixed with other rock too hence the effects were not instant.B: He burrowed deep under the earth and not only picked up the continent but a large amount of normal rock too. Now if you were actually watching the film you would see that the normal rock was falling away and then the Kryptonite started to poke through but by that time he had pretty much got it into space and the higher you go the less effect gravity has on it.
I've had to explain that to so many people.

[THWIP*]

this argument always makes me laugh, if you were watching the film you wouldve seen that:A: it was laced with Kryptonite, it was not made from Kryptonite. If it was made from the stuff superman would have seen it a mile of as a big chunk of green Kryptonite but it was mixed with other rock too hence the effects were not instant.B: He burrowed deep under the earth and not only picked up the continent but a large amount of normal rock too. Now if you were actually watching the film you would see that the normal rock was falling away and then the Kryptonite started to poke through but by that time he had pretty much got it into space and the higher you go the less effect gravity has on it.



NICE EXPLANATION........YOU SHOULD GET A JOB WRITING SCRIPTS FOR SH**TY, HALF-ASSED MOVIES THAT STRUGGLE TO BREAK EVEN. :up:

[WhatsHisFace]

Superman Retuns got better reviews than X-men 3 and most other Marvel films. It also made more money than most other Marvel films.

[AFan 2]

NICE EXPLANATION........YOU SHOULD GET A JOB WRITING SCRIPTS FOR SH**TY, HALF-ASSED MOVIES THAT STRUGGLE TO BREAK EVEN. :up:
I thought the movie was good, couldve been better and im sure the sequel will be. I dont really think it is struggling to break even.The proposed budget was 184 Million, Singer overspent and it finally settled on 204 million.Before the film hit the thearters cable companies have spent 50 million for the rights to play it first. Toy companies and any one who wanted to use Superman in advertising had to pay large fees to Warner so your probably looking at another 70 million. This extra revenue has easily covered the Advertising budget of 100 million leaving 20 million to go toward the film.Then you include the World wide gross of around 390 million, by the way it is still showing so this is not the final figure and we have not even had the DVD release which could easily bring in another 100 million.Yep it is really struggeling to break even. Yeah i dont think it hit the expectations of the WB and some of the fans but its stupid to think the film is struggeling to break even.

[블라스]

This is such a cool cover :up:

http://www.supermantv.net/comics/hulksuperman/Oldsuphu.jpg

[AFan 2]

Superman Retuns got better reviews than X-men 3 and most other Marvel films. It also made more money than most other Marvel films.
Yeah X3 was a disappointment, its a shame really beacsue i think if they gave Ratner enough time he could have done a better job. X2 was the best of the series and fealt like it was really leading to something epic. Im sure if Singer helmed X3 it would have been an Epic end and probably would have just focused on the Phonix story.However by mixing the Cure element(could have been a film by itself) with the Phonix plot it watered down the film to a very Meh result. Its a shame really.

[블라스]

More cool stuff...

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7099/hulknet2dl6.jpg

Better version of earlier cover.
http://dialbforblog.com/archives/114/superman_hulk.jpg

We know how this would end....that's right, Batman wins.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/nikolas306/wolverine-vs-batman.jpg

Probably the most even fight of all time. In fact, both are winners.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8715/batmanyearonevsdaredevilyellowak5.jpg

This actually never happened. Either that, or it was just something planned by Batman, and it was obviously something he was going to use to accomplish what he wanted.
http://www.superheroshowdown.homestead.com/files/Batman_vs._Superman2.jpeg

Yeah....take that, *****.
http://www.literanauta.uchile.cl/batman2.jpg

Batman: LOL @ your silly rays, Clark. Sit down!
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7725/supermanvsbatmanww9.jpg

[AFan 2]

Batman would never be able to beat Wolverine thats rubbish, wolverine would have such a high pain thresh hold that Batmans punches would not hurt him, wolverine could regenerate any damage that batman did deal out and he has a metal skelton meaning it would hurt batman to punch him.

[블라스]

LOL no, you're wrong.
Even Punisher beat Wolverine :O

[THWIP*]

I thought the movie was good, couldve been better and im sure the sequel will be. I dont really think it is struggling to break even.The proposed budget was 184 Million, Singer overspent and it finally settled on 204 million.Before the film hit the thearters cable companies have spent 50 million for the rights to play it first. Toy companies and any one who wanted to use Superman in advertising had to pay large fees to Warner so your probably looking at another 70 million. This extra revenue has easily covered the Advertising budget of 100 million leaving 20 million to go toward the film.Then you include the World wide gross of around 390 million, by the way it is still showing so this is not the final figure and we have not even had the DVD release which could easily bring in another 100 million.Yep it is really struggeling to break even. Yeah i dont think it hit the expectations of the WB and some of the fans but its stupid to think the film is struggeling to break even.


BOX OFFICE TO DATE (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=superman06.htm)


IF NOT FOR THE FOREIGN TAKE, IT WOULD BE RELYING ON DVD SALES TO MAKE A PROFIT. FOR A DOMESTIC PRODUCT........AN AMERICAN ICON, RIVALING THE POPULARITY OF 'SPIDER-MAN'.......THAT'S PATHETIC. THE ONLY 'MARVEL' FRANCHISE WORTHY OF COMPARISON IS 'SPIDER-MAN'.......AND IT'S MOPPED THE FLOOR EASILY WITH 'SR'.

YES.......IT'S STRUGGLED TO MAKE A PROFIT......DON'T KID YOURSELF.

[WhatsHisFace]

BOX OFFICE TO DATE (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=superman06.htm)


IF NOT FOR THE FOREIGN TAKE, IT WOULD BE RELYING ON DVD SALES TO MAKE A PROFIT. FOR A DOMESTIC PRODUCT........AN AMERICAN ICON, RIVALING THE POPULARITY OF 'SPIDER-MAN'.......THAT'S PATHETIC. THE ONLY 'MARVEL' FRANCHISE WORTHY OF COMPARISON IS 'SPIDER-MAN'.......AND IT'S MOPPED THE FLOOR EASILY WITH 'SR'.

YES.......IT'S STRUGGLED TO MAKE A PROFIT......DON'T KID YOURSELF.
Batman Begins was a better movie than Spider-man 1 and 2.

[WhatsHisFace]

http://www.literanauta.uchile.cl/batman2.jpg

That's impossible. Superman can be shot in the eyeball without blinking. He can have people hit him in the back of the head with a crowbar and he won't even move. He can stop a train with his bare hands.

But Batman punches him and knocks him over?

I'm sorry, but until Bruce Wayne is repping locomotives, that would never happen.

[THWIP*]

Batman Begins was a better movie than Spider-man 1 and 2.


WAY TO DODGE THE TOPIC. :D :oldrazz:


AND THAT'S PURELY SUBJECTIVE OPINION........EVEN BLAS CAN'T PICK A DEFINITE FAVORITE BETWEEN THE 2. BUT, THE BOX OFFICE #S ARE CLEARLY IN SPIDEY'S FAVOR.......ALWAYS WILL BE. :oldrazz: :spidey:

[블라스]

That's impossible. Superman can be shot in the eyeball without blinking. He can have people hit him in the back of the head with a crowbar and he won't even move. He can stop a train with his bare hands.

But Batman punches him and knocks him over?

I'm sorry, but until Bruce Wayne is repping locomotives, that would never happen.

It's not impossible....it's happening right there :confused:

[블라스]

That's true, both Batman Begins and Spiderman 2 are, IMO, the classiest and finest superhero movies ever.

[WhatsHisFace]

WAY TO DODGE THE TOPIC. :D :oldrazz:


AND THAT'S PURELY SUBJECTIVE OPINION........EVEN BLAS CAN'T PICK A DEFINITE FAVORITE BETWEEN THE 2. BUT, THE BOX OFFICE #S ARE CLEARLY IN SPIDEY'S FAVOR.......ALWAYS WILL BE. :oldrazz: :spidey:
Dodge the topic? Like bringing up a Superman box office in apparent comparison to Spider-man, while we're talking about Hulk versus Superman? At least do something relevant, like the Superman movie versus the Hulk movie in respect to what each hero does in each (Superman would totally own the Hulk then).

And do you really want to have an argument about quality represented through sales? Because I will be happy to win this for the fifth time. Spider-man is in no way better than Batman Begins.

[THWIP*]

Dodge the topic? Like bringing up a Superman box office in apparent comparison to Spider-man, while we're talking about Hulk versus Superman? At least do something relevant, like the Superman movie versus the Hulk movie in respect to what each hero does in each (Superman would totally own the Hulk then).

And do you really want to have an argument about quality represented through sales? Because I will be happy to win this for the fifth time. Spider-man is in no way better than Batman Begins.


FINE, IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES......


'SPIDER-MAN' (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman.htm) WAS THE FIRST OF IT'S FRANCHISE....UNLIKE 'SR' ; SO, WE CAN ONLY FAIRLY COMPARE IT TO 'SUPERMAN' (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman.htm)

EVEN IF YOU ADJUST FOR INFLATION, TO HELP 'SUPES'.........IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. AND TRUST ME.....YOU DO NOT WANT ME TO SHOW A COMPARISON OF 'SUPERMAN 2' AND 'SPIDER-MAN 2'. :o

BTW, I'D ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY I USED 'SPIDEY' AS A COMPARISON, RATHER THAN 'HULK' ; YOU HAVE TO COMPARE THE BEST VS. THE BEST ; 'SPIDEY' BEATS 'SUPES' AND 'BATS', WHEN COMPARING THE FIRST 2 FILMS. :oldrazz:

[Horrorfan]

Spiderman 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Batman Begins

[Ultimate_Superman]

More cool stuff...

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7099/hulknet2dl6.jpg

Better version of earlier cover.
http://dialbforblog.com/archives/114/superman_hulk.jpg

We know how this would end....that's right, Batman wins.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/nikolas306/wolverine-vs-batman.jpg

Probably the most even fight of all time. In fact, both are winners.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8715/batmanyearonevsdaredevilyellowak5.jpg

This actually never happened. Either that, or it was just something planned by Batman, and it was obviously something he was going to use to accomplish what he wanted.
http://www.superheroshowdown.homestead.com/files/Batman_vs._Superman2.jpeg

Yeah....take that, *****.
http://www.literanauta.uchile.cl/batman2.jpg

Batman: LOL @ your silly rays, Clark. Sit down!
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7725/supermanvsbatmanww9.jpgWith all these pic's I see you failed to put the one up where Superman puts Batman in a comma in a fight that lasted less then 1min. Also I see you failed to put up the part from Lex Luthor: Man of Steel when Superman owned Batman with one punch and Batman even had a huge chunk of kryptonite.

[ProjectPat2280]

I loved Superman Returns, i loved Spider-Man 1 and 2, i thought Batman Begins was brilliant, and i thought HULK was good. I dont care what the numbers are, they were all great movies and i own every single one of them, sep for SR which ill own soon enough.

[블라스]

With all these pic's I see you failed to put the one up where Superman puts Batman in a comma in a fight that lasted less then 1min. Also I see you failed to put up the part from Lex Luthor: Man of Steel when Superman owned Batman with one punch and Batman even had a huge chunk of kryptonite.

Those never happened, they're either badly written Elsewords or parts of Batman plans :O :up:

[DACMAN]

For Starters you can not compare doomsday to Hulk just because they are both big and strong and jump fast, Doomsday also has superspeed as he has punched the flash before and in the fight between Superman and Doomsday Superman said he has never seen anyone move as fast other than the flash.Hulk has had difficulty punching spiderman before and he is just agile and has no superspeed, )

The HULK has been said to move extremely fast on many occasions. He can run 300 miles an hour. And Spider-Man has ALWAYS had superspeed, super agility, and spidey sense. Yet the HULK has managed to land a punch. How do you think Spidey could dodged that car in the second film. Or the punch from flash in the first. Or caught the tray of food in the first. Or caught the cable after being punched by the Green Goblin in the first. It was stated in "Peter Parker Spider-Man" issue 26 (then just "Spider-Man") that he can move 40x faster than a normal human.

http://www.alaph.com/spiderman/powers_abilities/agility.html (this is from the issue I mentioned)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_man (look under powers)







Superman can run or fly from one continent to the next is seconds.Secondly, Yeah Hulk gets madder the stronger hulk gets but Superman starts off allot stronger than Hulk. To start with Hulk has trouble with throwing tanks

He's never had trouble throwing tanks. Have you ever even read the HULK?



so Hulk has to get really angry just to match Superman.

It took him a second to get pissed enought to lift 150 billion tons. Click my sig for proof. http://www.incrediblehulk.com/secretwarsstrength.html




Yeah Hulk may have punched an astoroid in Space but in space there is no Gravity so anyone can pick up objects that are usually not within there weight limit.

HAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me?! Do you know what creates gravity? Have you EVER taken a single science class EVER? Let me give you a quick leason. Mass creates gravity. The more mass the more gravity. So if you have an object twice the size (assuming it's density is the same) of earth, it's going to have twice the gravity. Objects create gravity. Earth isn't the only object in the universe that has gravity.

If that doesn't help read this.http://www.gravityms.com/

So the point is that the HULK could shatter the entire earth with his fist. In fact, he can shatter an object twice the size of earth. You really should do your homework before getting into this "discussion" with me.



Thridly, Hulk has been knocked unconcious before and gases have worked on him he is not as invulnerable as superman has been shown to be for example Hulk has been impaled and wolverine cuts him whenever the two duel. Superman has survived flying through a sun, atomic explosions and much more.

The HULK has survived the Torch going super nova which I've already said. Which is HOTTER than our sun. He has also survived an atomic bomb at least twice. Wolverine's claws have cut the HULK but heal as soon as they are made. He is also the only character to EVER be able to crush adamantium in the marvel universe. http://www.incrediblehulk.com/dogowarstrength.html

Superman cannot do the same. A being can become strong enough to hurt Superman, as Doomsday did. I didn't see him use any kryptonite. The point is that the HULK can eventually be hurt, just like Supes, yet the HULK heals from it as soon as he is hurt. He has been said then, to be indestructiable.
http://www.incrediblehulk.com/physicalresistance.html


So the Winner is Superman!!!
Wrong! HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!

http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/images/fans/mark-zieba-1-s.jpg


And here's some food for thought. If Supes is stronger than the HULK as you think why is it Supes can "leap tall buildings in a single bond" yet the HULK can leap thousands of miles, and even into orbit from one bond? http://www.incrediblehulk.com/leapingfeats.html

[블라스]

Dacman, you're becoming kind of a hero to me.

[DACMAN]

I actually agree with this scenario.

And whoever said the Hulk could return to earth from the sun... no. If the Hulk didn't burn up, the oxygen in his lungs would, and even then he wouldn't have the leg strength to jump from the sun to earth. It's just not possible. It takes light eight minutes to get here from the sun, and I don't know if anyone knows this, but that's really freakin far.
But the set up is so friggen silly to begin with. You have to assume that the HULK is going to let him touch him and once he does you have to assume that the HULK would let Supes throw him into outer space without the HULK grabbing Supes. He'd react to the situation just as Doomsday did when Supes tried the same thing on him. It'b be like me saying "HULK would just grab his neck and try to break it, but he wouldn't be able to so he'd get angry and then stronger. Then he'd try again, and fail again making him stronger until he was strong enough to do it." We'd all have to assume that Supes would just sit there and let him do this?

I have proved over and over that the HULK is stronger than Superman. He can punch him, blow on him, and shoot lazers at him all he wants. The point is he'll come back madder, and sooner or later he'll get ahold of him and then it's all she wrote. Doomsday killed Superman the same way the HULK could. By getting stronger as the fight goes on. HULK never tires, Superman does.

[THWIP*]

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/ufoesskinhealth1.jpg
http://www.incrediblehulk.com/ufoesskinhealth2.jpg

SO AWESOME. :(

THIS IS FROM 'THE PANTHEON SAGA', BACK WHEN DALE KEOWN DID 'HULK'. I MISS THOSE DAYS. :up:

[WhatsHisFace]

Well what about Clark Kent vs. Bruce Banner?

[DACMAN]

Dacman, you're becoming kind of a hero to me.Yeah, I get that...:woot:


But really, all you have to do is read their comics. I read Spider-Man, HULK, The Punisher, and I'll read some Superman. If people read the characters they'd know what they can and cannot do. People just assume that "oh it's Superman, he can do anything". And if people read the HULK at all they'd know he's the strongest one there is, no question. The HULK said it best "NOTHING CAN BEAT THE HULK! NOTHING!"
I look at this the same way I looked at my college papers. Just do the research and the truth'el punch you in the face.

[Dark_Lord]

Another version of the gameplay video with the Superman theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzjXWyQ52xU

Just so we can stay on topic. :)

[DACMAN]

And someone asked about the HULK adapting to his environment. This is fairly new. This is the only example I can provide.

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/powersabilities.html

[DACMAN]

Well what about Clark Kent vs. Bruce Banner?
http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/comics/comic-show.asp?Id=tih3&Issue=54

Banner can have HULK strenght depending on who's in control and such.

[DACMAN]

Another version of the gameplay video with the Superman theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzjXWyQ52xU

Just so we can stay on topic. :)
Yeah, sorry my bad. Superman the game look fun.

[블라스]

If it's half as good as H:UD, it'll be fantastic.

[Dark_Lord]

I really liked H:UD. I'll have to play it again before I get SR.

[DACMAN]

I heard there won't be destructable buildings like HULK UD. I wonder how many things there are you can use as weapons?

[DACMAN]

Another version of the gameplay video with the Superman theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzjXWyQ52xU

Just so we can stay on topic. :)
Just watched the new one. That was awsome. It's amazing how much music adds to stuff. Is Supes nacked in that one scene when he throws something at the boss?

[The Last Meatbag]

Nah, it's his Kryptonian suit

[WhatsHisFace]

I'm just going to play the movie music on this beast when I finally get my well-groomed mits on it.

[AFan 2]

BOX OFFICE TO DATE (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=superman06.htm)


IF NOT FOR THE FOREIGN TAKE, IT WOULD BE RELYING ON DVD SALES TO MAKE A PROFIT. FOR A DOMESTIC PRODUCT........AN AMERICAN ICON, RIVALING THE POPULARITY OF 'SPIDER-MAN'.......THAT'S PATHETIC. THE ONLY 'MARVEL' FRANCHISE WORTHY OF COMPARISON IS 'SPIDER-MAN'.......AND IT'S MOPPED THE FLOOR EASILY WITH 'SR'.

YES.......IT'S STRUGGLED TO MAKE A PROFIT......DON'T KID YOURSELF.
Oh if not for the foreign Take, oh so the money brought in bythe rest of the world does not count. Jeez what school for business did you go too???The fact is Superman Returns has made 188 million from Foreign Markets, which yes gets added to the final income of the movie weather you like it or not. So yeah it did not break even dometically but if you take in the total revenue it has more than broken even.Also if you look at the daily box office figures you will see that on average Superman has only ever had drops of 35-40% per day, except the week Pirates 2 came out where it had a drops of 70%. If you do the math Superman would have made 5 million extra a day giving it a revenue of 220 million. Yes this is still below what was estimated but Superman would have broken even just with the domestic revenue. But lucky us the film industry like to include the world revenue and not just the US. Superman did break even and is profitable. Just not as profitable as WB would have liked. Unlike the Hulk movie which um did tank.

[Darphnugget]

But really, all you have to do is read their comics. I read Spider-Man, HULK, The Punisher, and I'll read some Superman.

I Find the superman comics boring... even the SR was boring!!

If I had to pick between Supes and the Hulk I go with the Hulk.

[AFan 2]

The HULK has been said to move extremely fast on many occasions. He can run 300 miles an hour. And Spider-Man has ALWAYS had superspeed, super agility, and spidey sense. Yet the HULK has managed to land a punch. How do you think Spidey could dodged that car in the second film. Or the punch from flash in the first. Or caught the tray of food in the first. Or caught the cable after being punched by the Green Goblin in the first. It was stated in &quot;Peter Parker Spider-Man&quot; issue 26 (then just &quot;Spider-Man&quot;) that he can move 40x faster than a normal human.

http://www.alaph.com/spiderman/powers_abilities/agility.html (this is from the issue I mentioned)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_man (look under powers)







He's never had trouble throwing tanks. Have you ever even read the HULK?




It took him a second to get pissed enought to lift 150 billion tons. Click my sig for proof. http://www.incrediblehulk.com/secretwarsstrength.html





HAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me?! Do you know what creates gravity? Have you EVER taken a single science class EVER? Let me give you a quick leason. Mass creates gravity. The more mass the more gravity. So if you have an object twice the size (assuming it's density is the same) of earth, it's going to have twice the gravity. Objects create gravity. Earth isn't the only object in the universe that has gravity.

If that doesn't help read this.http://www.gravityms.com/

So the point is that the HULK could shatter the entire earth with his fist. In fact, he can shatter an object twice the size of earth. You really should do your homework before getting into this &quot;discussion&quot; with me.



The HULK has survived the Torch going super nova which I've already said. Which is HOTTER than our sun. He has also survived an atomic bomb at least twice. Wolverine's claws have cut the HULK but heal as soon as they are made. He is also the only character to EVER be able to crush adamantium in the marvel universe. http://www.incrediblehulk.com/dogowarstrength.html

Superman cannot do the same. A being can become strong enough to hurt Superman, as Doomsday did. I didn't see him use any kryptonite. The point is that the HULK can eventually be hurt, just like Supes, yet the HULK heals from it as soon as he is hurt. He has been said then, to be indestructiable.
http://www.incrediblehulk.com/physicalresistance.html


Wrong! HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!

http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/images/fans/mark-zieba-1-s.jpg


And here's some food for thought. If Supes is stronger than the HULK as you think why is it Supes can &quot;leap tall buildings in a single bond&quot; yet the HULK can leap thousands of miles, and even into orbit from one bond? http://www.incrediblehulk.com/leapingfeats.html
Hulk and Spiderman do NOT have Superspeed, yes Hulk can run at 300 miles per hour but that does not mean that he can sight and catch slower moving projectiles such as bullets which travel fast. Spiderman also has a Spider Sense that instictivily gets him out of the way of harm, like a Jedi Spidy feels things before they happen and gets out of the way before the harm hits, This makes him seem even faster than he is, however although fast he is not Super Fast, Flash Thompsans punch in the movie was slow yes but it was still moving. Superman Looks at bullets as if they do not move. I have seen a dozen Comics where Spidy had managed to evade the Hulk for ages and then was was only CLIpPED because Hulk went so ape that he detroyed the surrounding area making it impossible for Spidy to dodge. Spidy has also been shot on occasion so yeah Nope superspeed. So i dont know how fast Bullets are but Superman is fast enough to see them motionless, can the Hulk hit faster than Bullets?? In Smallville Clark was able to in the middle of a football game, leave the field stop the bad guy save chole free her get back to the game before anyones eyes caught up with the fact that he had left and then win the football game. Oh and that was when he was a boy.As For Hulk struggeling to pick up tanks, yes he has, but then he just gets angrier and then like you says he is able to throw them like toys, but he has to be really provoked. And Hulk was the first comic i collected i have 300 issues sitting under my bed. Over my time collecting the comic Hulk Writers vary his strength But some writers get really overzelous with what heros can do for instance 150 billion tons come on that was an old story. if we are going to take old stories we will use the silver age superman the man who blew out a star to impress lois, Yes from Earth he blew out some stars, this Superman has also destroyed planets and moves at the speed of Light. SO yeah we shall use current version of the character because i hate silver age Superman too over the top and Hulk really would not stand a chance. The leaps tall buildings in a single bound, come on again you are comparing Supermen from different eras, that quote came from a period when Superman didnt even fly and could lift only 50 tons, When Hulk first started he didnt have super leaping and yes did struggle with tanks. so which eras are we comparing here the golden age, silver age or Modern age, because Superman can fly now and really does not need to leap. And if he chose to he could leap as far as the Hulk, in Final night when the Sun was blocked Superman was losing his powers he leaped from one side of metroplois to the other and that was when he was at 25% strength.Yes Hulk has been cut by wolverine, yes hulk has a healing factor but the fact remains Hulk got cut in the first place. Meaning that he is not as Invulnerable as you make out, Bullets for example annoy him. As for Atomic explosions both Hulk and Superman are impervious.As for Hulk surviving Human torches Supernova, well Superman has actually flown into the Sun to re-boost his powers on more than one occasion recently He even flew through a sun in the Infinate Crisis story so i think he could survive Human tourchs Supernova. as for adamantium it does not exist in the DC universe im sure if it did superman could crush it, after all it is the strongest metal and can survive most earthly things but Superman is not from earth is he. Oh and by the way the Hulk has been beaten by Jugganaut its a fact, so he can be beaten.

[AFan 2]

I Find the superman comics boring... even the SR was boring!!

If I had to pick between Supes and the Hulk I go with the Hulk.
I agree Superman as a comic is boring, Superman is the comic i have picked up and droped the most. However i do like the character but to read about him monthly is boring. Superman Returns i Liked, but i can see why people didnt warm to it and there are some aspects that i do have to agree with the haters on, like the plot was weak and Singer seemed to cut all the good stuff. I do think the sequel will be better.DC heros in general are boring reads, Batman can out think anyone, Superman can beat anyone and the Flash is the fastest. I like all the main Charcters its just writers can not challange them constantly. which is why DC heros actually work in other mediums better than comics. The Bruce Timm animated series of Batman, Superman and the Justice league is my favorite interpretations of the characters. They are all tonned down and seem flawed.

[Darphnugget]

Well in a poll that was on Channel 4 in the uk... the top 3 superheroes were and I quote in order.

1. Spiderman
2. Batman
3. Superman

I think the point proves that Batman is a better comic in general than superman and the Spiderman one just rules them both.

I myself am a Spidey and batman fan.

Superman is just well too much of a goodie too shoes and his storys are weak..

Enough said really.

If you want to compare Hulk and Supes... I'd say Hulk is a better comic at least you can "feel" for the character.. How can you feel for a man that can do anything... thats just boring..

[Ultimate_Superman]

Those never happened, they're either badly written Elsewords or parts of Batman plans :O :up:The funny part is the only time Batman has ever beaten Superman is when Frank "I Hate Superman's Guts" Millar writes a Batman story (which in they fight have all been elseworld stories) other then that Superman is always owning Batman when they go at it.

[AFan 2]

Well in a poll that was on Channel 4 in the uk... the top 3 superheroes were and I quote in order.

1. Spiderman
2. Batman
3. Superman

I think the point proves that Batman is a better comic in general than superman and the Spiderman one just rules them both.

I myself am a Spidey and batman fan.

Superman is just well too much of a goodie too shoes and his storys are weak..

Enough said really.

If you want to compare Hulk and Supes... I'd say Hulk is a better comic at least you can &quot;feel&quot; for the character.. How can you feel for a man that can do anything... thats just boring..
I think most well known heros are in this orderSpiderman SupermanBatmanHowever there is a difference between well known and liked. The new Superman proved that. I think everyone knows who superman is he just does not have allot of people who buy the comic.And yes Hulk the comic is more interesting than Superman, for all the reasons you have said. The only way to make superman more popular now in the comics is for a complete re-boot and to start again.However although his comic is weak Superman is still my favorite. The concept is pretty cool and they can do allot with it. I want then to scrap smallville and do a new Superman series and start from scratch.

[Darphnugget]

Smallville was quite cool to start with ... Kent learning his powers as the start manifesting but then it just like the superman comics got crap.

Well that top 3 list i put up was an official poll.

[THWIP*]

Oh if not for the foreign Take, oh so the money brought in bythe rest of the world does not count. Jeez what school for business did you go too???The fact is Superman Returns has made 188 million from Foreign Markets, which yes gets added to the final income of the movie weather you like it or not. So yeah it did not break even dometically but if you take in the total revenue it has more than broken even.Also if you look at the daily box office figures you will see that on average Superman has only ever had drops of 35-40% per day, except the week Pirates 2 came out where it had a drops of 70%. If you do the math Superman would have made 5 million extra a day giving it a revenue of 220 million. Yes this is still below what was estimated but Superman would have broken even just with the domestic revenue. But lucky us the film industry like to include the world revenue and not just the US. Superman did break even and is profitable. Just not as profitable as WB would have liked. Unlike the Hulk movie which um did tank.


WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THE 'HULK' MOVIE INTO THIS? I CLEARLY STATED THIS DISCUSSION WAS ONLY FAIR, IF COMPARING THE BEST FROM BOTH 'DC' AND 'MARVEL'......WHICH IS 'SPIDEY' AND 'SUPES'. AND SINCE 'SPIDER-MAN 1 & 2' BOTH MADE $100 MILLION + PROFITS OFF THEIR DOMESTIC TAKE, I SAW NO NEED TO BRING THE FOREIGN MARKET INTO THE DISCUSSION. AGAIN.....THESE ARE DOMESTIC PRODUCTS; IF YOUR HOMELAND CAN'T MAKE A PROFIT FOR YOU, YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG....PARTICULARLY WHEN IT'S WITH AN ICONIC PROPERTY LIKE 'SUPERMAN'.

[AFan 2]

Smallville was quite cool to start with ... Kent learning his powers as the start manifesting but then it just like the superman comics got crap.

Well that top 3 list i put up was an official poll.
Yeah from the general populance in the UK(if it was done by channel 4) So probably not reflective of the true result. I Mean polls are always subjective who are they asking??? Also what is the question of the poll??Are they asking who was the best? Who was there favorite? or asking who are the first 3 heros that spring to mind?Did they ask people in the street? Go to schools or just do an online poll.Being from the UK and a comic fan i can say that comic book heros are really not all that big here. Yeah people know who Superman, batman Spiderman and the X men are. But ppeople like Green lanturn, Aquaman and the Flash are really unknowns.

[Darphnugget]

Yeah thats coz they are crap lmao

Think about it Superman is so old and out of date its like a circus

[AFan 2]

WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THE 'HULK' MOVIE INTO THIS? I CLEARLY STATED THIS DISCUSSION WAS ONLY FAIR, IF COMPARING THE BEST FROM BOTH 'DC' AND 'MARVEL'......WHICH IS 'SPIDEY' AND 'SUPES'. AND SINCE 'SPIDER-MAN 1 & 2' BOTH MADE $100 MILLION + PROFITS OFF THEIR DOMESTIC TAKE, I SAW NO NEED TO BRING THE FOREIGN MARKET INTO THE DISCUSSION. AGAIN.....THESE ARE DOMESTIC PRODUCTS; IF YOUR HOMELAND CAN'T MAKE A PROFIT FOR YOU, YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG....PARTICULARLY WHEN IT'S WITH AN ICONIC PROPERTY LIKE 'SUPERMAN'.
Now your just being silly, Film studios are a buisness they are not going to ignor a whole market. Only a fan boy like yourself would say "oh you cant count the foreign market" Superman is profitable end of. Yes if it was down to domestic market alone it would not have been but guess what there is a whole world out there that counts.As for Spiderman making more than superman, yeah mean the figures show that. Spiderman is more well liked than Superman. Not only that there has never been a spiderman film before so people rushed out to see it. I know loads of people who are waiting for superman to come on DVD because they already have Chris Reeve's films on DVD and dont think the film will offer anything new. Oh and by the way I can compare Superman or any other superhero movie i like. And hulk bombed period didnt it like make 137 million domestic? It made more overseas but hey we can not include that market according to you.

[AFan 2]

Yeah thats coz they are crap lmao

Think about it Superman is so old and out of date its like a circus
Yeah i agree that is why he needs a reboot, something along the lines of supreme power.By the way Greenlanturn is crap but the Flash is cool..... They just have not done anything decent with him apart from the justice league cartoon.

[THWIP*]

Now your just being silly, Film studios are a buisness they are not going to ignor a whole market. Only a fan boy like yourself would say "oh you cant count the foreign market" Superman is profitable end of. Yes if it was down to domestic market alone it would not have been but guess what there is a whole world out there that counts.As for Spiderman making more than superman, yeah mean the figures show that. Spiderman is more well liked than Superman. Not only that there has never been a spiderman film before so people rushed out to see it. I know loads of people who are waiting for superman to come on DVD because they already have Chris Reeve's films on DVD and dont think the film will offer anything new. Oh and by the way I can compare Superman or any other superhero movie i like. And hulk bombed period didnt it like make 137 million domestic? It made more overseas but hey we can not include that market according to you.


GO RIGHT AHEAD.......BUT NOT WITH ME. I STARTED THIS DISCUSSION, AND I'M ENDING IT NOW. WHEN YOU LEARN HOW TO CARRY ON A RELEVANT DISCUSSION, GET BACK WITH ME. :o

[AFan 2]

Actually you jumped in the middle of a discussion i was having about who would win in a fight between the Hulk Vs Superman.

But you can run along the discussion was going no where because you decide to ignor half the facts just so you could come up with your conclusion. Ta ta

[THWIP*]

Actually you jumped in the middle of a discussion i was having about who would win in a fight between the Hulk Vs Superman.

But you can run along the discussion was going no where because you decide to ignor half the facts just so you could come up with your conclusion. Ta ta


THEY'RE 2 DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS ALTOGETHER.......YOU "JUMPED IN" ON THE DISCUSSION I WAS HAVING WITH 'WHF'. :dry:

[AFan 2]

Actually i was in the middle of a discussion about Superman taking the hulk into deep space.

You stated that Superman would run out of power because he needed a yellow sun.

I then explained the movie to you and why he needed recharging.

You then made a comment about the movie being crap and started to mention the boxoffice.

So you got the convo off topic(even though Hulk Vs Superman is off the thred topic anywho)

And now you state that for supermans box office i can't include the foriegn market and then you say i can't compare the Hulk movie to the Superman movie( even though people were comparing the two characters) And brought in the spiderman movies which had no relavence what so ever.

Spiderman is a rare thing if you look at the top grossing Superhero films Spiderman is the top of all then its films like the incrdibles the X films, the batman films oh and Superman Returns.

[AFan 2]

1 Spider-Man Sony $403,706,375 3,876 $114,844,116 3,615 5/3/02
2 Spider-Man 2 Sony $373,585,825 4,166 $88,156,227 4,152 6/30/04
3 The Incredibles BV $261,441,092 3,933 $70,467,623 3,933 11/5/04
4 Batman WB $251,188,924 2,201 $40,489,746 2,194 6/23/89
5 X-Men: The Last Stand Fox $234,360,014 3,714 $102,750,665 3,690 5/26/06
6 X2: X-Men United Fox $214,949,694 3,749 $85,558,731 3,741 5/2/03
7 Batman Begins WB $205,343,774 3,858 $48,745,440 3,858 6/15/05
8 Superman Returns WB $198,507,265 4,065 $52,535,096 4,065 6/28/06
9 Batman Forever WB $184,031,112 2,893 $52,784,433 2,842 6/16/95
10 Batman Returns

[AFan 2]

Huh guess what looking at those figues is actually quite reflective of the Channal 4 pole i.e.

Spiderman the most popular
followed by
Batman
Xmen
and then Superman.

Although Superman is the most well known, people don't like him because he is too clean cut.

Other people didnt go to the film because they have the Reeve movies, People consider Superman boring oh and Pirates killed its second week takings.

Spiderman has allot more appeal, however Spiderman the movie sucked. The first half was excellent but Mary Jane in the second half bugged the hell out of me.

Spiderman 2 was very good though.
Superhero movies just don't make as much money as people think, Spiderman is a rare occurance. X3 only did well of the back of the first 2 movies and Batman was the first serious interpretation of the character.Superman is restarting a dead franchise that ended 20 years ago.

[Darphnugget]

Handbags at 20 paces ladies LMAO

[AFan 2]

Handbags at 20 paces ladies LMAO
Nah slap fights are more fun, plus i don't want to damage my lipstick.

[Ultimate_Superman]

1 Spider-Man Sony $403,706,375 3,876 $114,844,116 3,615 5/3/02
2 Spider-Man 2 Sony $373,585,825 4,166 $88,156,227 4,152 6/30/04
3 The Incredibles BV $261,441,092 3,933 $70,467,623 3,933 11/5/04
4 Batman WB $251,188,924 2,201 $40,489,746 2,194 6/23/89
5 X-Men: The Last Stand Fox $234,360,014 3,714 $102,750,665 3,690 5/26/06
6 X2: X-Men United Fox $214,949,694 3,749 $85,558,731 3,741 5/2/03
7 Batman Begins WB $205,343,774 3,858 $48,745,440 3,858 6/15/05
8 Superman Returns WB $198,507,265 4,065 $52,535,096 4,065 6/28/06
9 Batman Forever WB $184,031,112 2,893 $52,784,433 2,842 6/16/95
10 Batman ReturnsI still think Superman Returns would have done better then Batman Begins if it went up against a movie line up Batman did. I mean Batman was set to go up against lame movies for its release. Superman on the other hand was set-up to go up against the cash cow that is Johnny Depp.

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah, they never should have had Superman go up against PotC2.

Like how they put The Punisher up against Kill Bill 2. :(

[AFan 2]

I still think Superman Returns would have done better then Batman Begins if it went up against a movie line up Batman did. I mean Batman was set to go up against lame movies for its release. Superman on the other hand was set-up to go up against the cash cow that is Johnny Depp.
I agree, Superman returns was making between 10-15 million a day before Pirates came out. When POTC2 was released Superman had a 70% drop in takings the second week it made between 2-4 million a day. The trend after that Superman has only had drops of 30-40% which seems to be its average.Now if you take 30-40% off of an average of 12 million per day(what Superman was making in week 1 without pirates) it would have made 5 million an extra per day.Superman would have therfore made around 220-230 million domestic. Unfortunatly that was not the case.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Yeah, they never should have had Superman go up against PotC2.

Like how they put The Punisher up against Kill Bill 2. :(:up: and The Punisher was not bad at all it just went up against a movie it had no business going up against.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I agree, Superman returns was making between 10-15 million a day before Pirates came out. When POTC2 was released Superman had a 70% drop in takings the second week it made between 2-4 million a day. The trend after that Superman has only had drops of 30-40% which seems to be its average.Now if you take 30-40% off of an average of 12 million per day(what Superman was making in week 1 without pirates) it would have made 5 million an extra per day.Superman would have therfore made around 220-230 million domestic. Unfortunatly that was not the case.Really Superman Returns would have beat X2 and come close to beating if not barely topping X3 the problem is they put it up against the wrong movie and wrong actors. When you go up against Depp and Bloom. You will have problems. Superman Returns did not bomb it just had the wrong movie to go up against. Look at Batman Begins he went up against Bewitched now if Superman went up against that it would be a whole other story but it didn't. So we'll get them in 2009 but Spider-Man 3 fans shall soon see how much of a cash cow POTC really is.:woot:

[블라스]

The funny part is the only time Batman has ever beaten Superman is when Frank "I Hate Superman's Guts" Millar writes a Batman story (which in they fight have all been elseworld stories) other then that Superman is always owning Batman when they go at it.

You're an Elseworlds! You're not happening! :mad:






:(

[Ultimate_Superman]

You're an Elseworlds! You're not happening! :mad:






:(Lets not forget Hush where Superman was about to own Batman's ass in his own book if not for Catwoman.