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Ibn
09-16-2006, 02:52 PM
Sorry if theres already a thread about this. But I think it would be a cool little tidbit for you guys to know that Jay named his new album after Kingdom Come. I just thought that was cool. Cheerio.:word:

Mee
09-16-2006, 03:03 PM
Somehow I doubt he's calling it Kingdom Come because of the comic book.:huh:

Fear of god
09-16-2006, 03:06 PM
i don't think so.

Ibn
09-16-2006, 03:13 PM
Somehow I doubt he's calling it Kingdom Come because of the comic book.:huh:

Jay and Beyonce appear on a double cover for Rolling Stone magazine, while the full Entertainment Weekly article about Jay-Z's new Album, "Kingdom Come," is online.

Yes, Jay-Z is a man of his word. Except, it seems, when he isn't. In 2002, the rapper declared that his next CD, The Black Album, would also be his last. His future lay not in the beats but in the boardroom. And that ambition became a reality when, in December 2004, he was announced as the new president and CEO of Def Jam Recordings. How to explain, then, the news that this fall Jay-Z will release a new CD, Kingdom Come? ''It was the worst retirement, maybe, in history,'' he admits. And then he launches into an impromptu a cappella preview of the title track, which was inspired by a 1996 comic in which Superman comes out of retirement to save the world. The lyrics that effortlessly roll off his tongue may help explain his return: ''Take off the blazer/Loosen up the tie/Step inside the booth/Superman is alive!''

Mee
09-16-2006, 03:21 PM
Huh, interesting.

Kool-Aid
09-16-2006, 03:36 PM
Thats cool. There's alot of rappers who are comic fans.

Joker
09-16-2006, 04:14 PM
yeah...Jay-Z f**king sucks :o

zer00
09-16-2006, 06:02 PM
Yes there are alot of comic fan rappers.

but yeah Jay-Z ****ing sucks.

on a side note. I really need to finish my novel.

Punch
09-16-2006, 06:22 PM
I fail to see why this is in the Batman forum

Jay-Z is not, to my knowledge, a comic book fan, and even if he was, we know "kingdom come" did not come from the comic.

And Jay-Z does not suck, let's be real.

Ibn
09-16-2006, 06:57 PM
I fail to see why this is in the Batman forum

Jay-Z is not, to my knowledge, a comic book fan, and even if he was, we know "kingdom come" did not come from the comic.

And Jay-Z does not suck, let's be real.

Jay and Beyonce appear on a double cover for Rolling Stone magazine, while the full Entertainment Weekly article about Jay-Z's new Album, "Kingdom Come," is online.

Yes, Jay-Z is a man of his word. Except, it seems, when he isn't. In 2002, the rapper declared that his next CD, The Black Album, would also be his last. His future lay not in the beats but in the boardroom. And that ambition became a reality when, in December 2004, he was announced as the new president and CEO of Def Jam Recordings. How to explain, then, the news that this fall Jay-Z will release a new CD, Kingdom Come? ''It was the worst retirement, maybe, in history,'' he admits. And then he launches into an impromptu a cappella preview of the title track, which was inspired by a 1996 comic in which Superman comes out of retirement to save the world. The lyrics that effortlessly roll off his tongue may help explain his return: ''Take off the blazer/Loosen up the tie/Step inside the booth/Superman is alive!''

Thats wierd, Icould have sworn I posted this before. G-Wiz.

Ibn
09-16-2006, 06:58 PM
yeah...Jay-Z f**king sucks :o

Jay does not suck........................ but Nas is better.:hyper:

Joker
09-16-2006, 10:36 PM
90% of rap and rappers suck :o

Mee
09-16-2006, 10:42 PM
I would have to agree.

Punch
09-17-2006, 12:08 PM
90% of rap and rappers suck :o

90% of music sucks. Jay-Z doesn't.

Ibn
09-17-2006, 02:29 PM
90% of music sucks. Jay-Z doesn't.

Well spoken. However, current generation rappers are garbage and damn disgraces to the artform. I'm about to make a song called Bruce Wayne though. I don't know what the hell it's going to be about, but it'll probably be a story dealing w/ an orphan. But yeah, Jay-Z, Nas, OkayPlayer, Common, + Underground = that's it. Anybody know of any famous musicians doing anything comicbook related? Some creative cats out there.

Spike_x1
09-17-2006, 02:41 PM
Why is this is the Batman Comics Forum? :confused:

Punch
09-17-2006, 02:46 PM
Well spoken. However, current generation rappers are garbage and damn disgraces to the artform. I'm about to make a song called Bruce Wayne though. I don't know what the hell it's going to be about, but it'll probably be a story dealing w/ an orphan. But yeah, Jay-Z, Nas, OkayPlayer, Common, + Underground = that's it. Anybody know of any famous musicians doing anything comicbook related? Some creative cats out there.
you rap?
yeah the Hip-Hop is in shambles, but who's to blame really?
And isn't MF Grimm writing a graphic novel?

MaskedManJRK
09-17-2006, 02:57 PM
Why is this is the Batman Comics Forum? :confused:

Well, Batman was in Kingdom Come...

Joker
09-17-2006, 03:07 PM
it would still fit in more at the Superman forums, seeing as he said it was more about Superman and all...although none of this changes the fact that Jay Z sucks...oh wait, I forgot, he sampled "hard knock life" from little orphan annie in one of his songs, he must be a f**king genius :rolleyes:

Punch
09-17-2006, 03:22 PM
it would still fit in more at the Superman forums, seeing as he said it was more about Superman and all...although none of this changes the fact that Jay Z sucks...oh wait, I forgot, he sampled "hard knock life" from little orphan annie in one of his songs, he must be a f**king genius :rolleyes:

what music do you like?

frodawgg
09-17-2006, 05:53 PM
it would still fit in more at the Superman forums, seeing as he said it was more about Superman and all...although none of this changes the fact that Jay Z sucks...oh wait, I forgot, he sampled "hard knock life" from little orphan annie in one of his songs, he must be a f**king genius :rolleyes:

"hard knock life" was awesome. jay-z is one of the most creative minds in all of music, not just rap. for 8 straight years, he put out dope album after dope album, with at least 4 classics. and to top it off, he doesn't even write his stuff down; he thinks about it and then spits off the top of his head. so, yes, he is a genius.

Merkel
09-17-2006, 05:54 PM
You can't spell "crap" without "rap"

Rivethed
09-17-2006, 06:55 PM
I think there's some decent rap stuff coming out. Outkast, the Danger Mouse stuff, Goody Mob/Gnarls Barkley/Cee-Lo.

Spike_x1
09-17-2006, 08:23 PM
You can't spell "crap" without "rap"LOL :D:up:

Joker
09-17-2006, 10:00 PM
what music do you like?

I like anything that doesnt suck...I can go from Beethoven to The Ramones to Motorhead to the Beastie Boys with no pause in between...Jay Z simply sucks vast amounts of ass

CConn
09-17-2006, 10:12 PM
I've been known to listen to Hammer from time to time.

Joker
09-17-2006, 10:58 PM
I've been known to listen to Hammer from time to time.

Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em :o

Kool-Aid
09-17-2006, 11:56 PM
Oh, he will.....he will.

Punch
09-18-2006, 02:16 PM
I like anything that doesnt suck...I can go from Beethoven to The Ramones to Motorhead to the Beastie Boys with no pause in between...Jay Z simply sucks vast amounts of ass

But do you like hip-hop, since it seems like you're an expert on it.

frodawgg
09-18-2006, 03:28 PM
You can't spell "crap" without "rap"

how mature. i could say, "you can't spell crock without rock", but i don't. cause i like rock, and even if i didn't, i would still respect the genre. i don't like country, reggae, or go-go, but i let them be.

to The Joker, just cuz you don't like Jay-Z doesn't mean he sucks. When someone says sucks, that is a measure of talent, not how much one likes him. if you don't like him, that's fine, nobody can make you like or listen to anyone. but to say he has no talent--especially jay-z--is ludicris (sp?). a lot of people don't like eminem, but to say he has no talent has no merit. i don't really like krs-one, but i acknowledge his skills. i just can't get into his stuff.

you probably have legit reasons for disliking jay-z and his music, but one of them shouldn't be that "he sucks".

Spike_x1
09-18-2006, 03:46 PM
how mature. i could say, "you can't spell crock without rock", but i don't. cause i like rock, and even if i didn't, i would still respect the genre. i don't like country, reggae, or go-go, but i let them be.

to The Joker, just cuz you don't like Jay-Z doesn't mean he sucks. When someone says sucks, that is a measure of talent, not how much one likes him. if you don't like him, that's fine, nobody can make you like or listen to anyone. but to say he has no talent--especially jay-z--is ludicris (sp?). a lot of people don't like eminem, but to say he has no talent has no merit. i don't really like krs-one, but i acknowledge his skills. i just can't get into his stuff.

you probably have legit reasons for disliking jay-z and his music, but one of them shouldn't be that "he sucks".All of what you're disputing is a matter of the posters' opinions. For example, in The Joker's opinion, Jay-Z sucks. The man is free to think what he wants and criticize the rapper's music as he sees fit.

frodawgg
09-18-2006, 04:01 PM
^^^i am no way disputing his opinion. i am saying that the term "sucks" relates to quality of talent rather than if he likes him or not. i totally dislike michael jordan, but i am not blind to see that he's a great basketball player. i don't disregard talent due to bias.

Spike_x1
09-18-2006, 04:06 PM
Oy. How about I phrase it a bit differently: In MY opinion, Jay-Z does not have talent, and therefore sucks.

Understand yet?

Punch
09-18-2006, 04:18 PM
It's really immature to say that something you don't like sucks. Especially since it seems like The Joker doesn't listen to Hip-Hop, or doesn't understand it. What about all the people that enjoy his work, do they suck also?

Punch
09-18-2006, 04:19 PM
Oy. How about I phrase it a bit differently: In MY opinion, Jay-Z does not have talent, and therefore sucks.

Understand yet?

How about
I don't like Jay- Z's music

Spike_x1
09-18-2006, 04:41 PM
So let me get this straight... people aren't allowed to have their own opinions anymore? I did not insult you or anyone else. I merely stated my opinion about this person's music. If you're going to cry about one man's mere opinion (which is everyone's God-given right to say, as long as it does not hurt anyone), especially on something as trivial as music, then you should probably just lock yourself in a room somewhere and ignore the world for the rest of your life, because whether you like it or not, no one will ever share your point of view on everything.

I'll state it a final time: In my opinion, Jay-Z sucks. If you cannot accept the fact that myself and others are capable of judging and forming a criticism of his music for ourselves, then I actually do pity you.

Punch
09-18-2006, 04:47 PM
So let me get this straight... people aren't allowed to have their own opinions anymore? I did not insult you or anyone else. I merely stated my opinion about this person's music. If you're going to cry about one man's mere opinion (which is everyone's God-given right to say, as long as it does not hurt anyone), especially on something as trivial as music, then you should probably just lock yourself in a room somewhere and ignore the world for the rest of your life, because whether you like it or not, no one will ever share your point of view on everything.

I'll state it a final time: In my opinion, Jay-Z sucks. If you cannot accept the fact that myself and others are capable of judging and forming a criticism of his music for ourselves, then I actually do pity you.

No on gives a **** if you like him or not, just realize that if you go around talking like that in the real world no on will take your opinon seriously.

Grow up man

Merkel
09-18-2006, 04:50 PM
There's nothing trivial to music. It's the supreme art form.

Spike_x1
09-18-2006, 04:56 PM
No on gives a **** if you like him or not, just realize that if you go around talking like that in the real world no on will take your opinon seriously.

Grow up manOh yes, because I honestly care about what people think when I say some rapper's music sucks :rolleyes:. It's my opinion and I'll express it how I see fit. Accept my methods of expression and then take a walk out in the real world where people are allowed to speak freely. Crazy idea, I know, but give it a shot.

Ibn
09-18-2006, 06:02 PM
it would still fit in more at the Superman forums, seeing as he said it was more about Superman and all...although none of this changes the fact that Jay Z sucks...oh wait, I forgot, he sampled "hard knock life" from little orphan annie in one of his songs, he must be a f**king genius :rolleyes:

1. You're right. I guess I just feel more at home in the bat forums.
2. I think you're wrong about Jay.
3. Your sarcasm is on point, and Hard Knock Life does indeed suck.

Ibn
09-18-2006, 06:04 PM
Aw ****. I done started something:ninja:

But Punch, I think the Grimm thing is an autobiography.

KingOfDreams
09-18-2006, 06:05 PM
It's not a term exclusive to comics. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "from here to kingdom come" (or some such variation)?

Punch
09-18-2006, 06:08 PM
It's not a term exclusive to comics. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "from here to kingdom come" (or some such variation)?

yeah but IBN posted the source stating that the album title was inspired by the comic.(sorry I missed it the first time also, IBN, gee whiz:yay:)

Ibn
09-18-2006, 06:23 PM
yeah but IBN posted the source stating that the album title was inspired by the comic.(sorry I missed it the first time also, IBN, gee whiz:yay:)

Sorry about the sarcasm Punch. I got nothin but love for all ma true HHheads. But go easy on him though:woot: , cause he didn't read my ****. Although I do gotta say, it was kinda late in the game for him to be blind to the facts< (Yeah I'm slick as ****). I heard there was already a song called Bruce Wayne though. Anybody know by who?

frodawgg
09-18-2006, 06:34 PM
So let me get this straight... people aren't allowed to have their own opinions anymore? I did not insult you or anyone else. I merely stated my opinion about this person's music. If you're going to cry about one man's mere opinion (which is everyone's God-given right to say, as long as it does not hurt anyone), especially on something as trivial as music, then you should probably just lock yourself in a room somewhere and ignore the world for the rest of your life, because whether you like it or not, no one will ever share your point of view on everything.

I'll state it a final time: In my opinion, Jay-Z sucks. If you cannot accept the fact that myself and others are capable of judging and forming a criticism of his music for ourselves, then I actually do pity you.

Nobody said that you cannot have your own opinion. I don't--and I don't think anyone else--have beef with you not liking Jay-Z; that's cool. I'm just saying that you should use proper terminology and ways of saying it. Like someone else said, just say something like, "i don't like Jay-Z" or "I don't like his (style of) music". That's all. Oh, nevermind.

ReTrO JuNkIe 42
09-18-2006, 07:58 PM
Hip hop is great, to bad some dont like it but its all opinion. Jay Z is a great at what he does.

Spike_x1
09-18-2006, 09:54 PM
Nobody said that you cannot have your own opinion. I don't--and I don't think anyone else--have beef with you not liking Jay-Z; that's cool. I'm just saying that you should use proper terminology and ways of saying it. Like someone else said, just say something like, "i don't like Jay-Z" or "I don't like his (style of) music". That's all. Oh, nevermind.I'm not even going to bother anymore. :rolleyes:

Joker
09-19-2006, 12:55 PM
I do listen to rap/hip-hop. I've been a fan of Dre and Snoop for a long time, and I enjoy Eminems first 2 albums. I also listen to some local hip-hop, such as Nuisance Crew and Soulcrate Music. Even if I didn't though, I still have every right to say Jay Z sucks, in my opinion. I don't listen to opera, cause I think it sucks. So I can therefore say "the three tenors suck" because I feel all opera sucks. Same goes for rap if I indeed didn't listen to it. You don't have to be an expert on something to dislike it.

Ibn
09-19-2006, 03:38 PM
Everybody check out the first track on Lupe Fiasco's album. The majority of the first verse is Batman related (bastard stole my idea though).