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Watching it now, first time in like a year and a half maybe? Jesus H. Christ, what a movie...
* Cool hero? Check.
* Cool bad guy? Check.
* Cool sidekick, and great bond of friendship between the hero and him? Check
* A female character that not only is not annoying, but actually helps the plot and is very believable? Check.
* Awesome script, that apart from being tight, it's actually witty and funny (not forced and/or annoying like most action movies today)? Check
* Amazing, and I mean AMAZING action? Check.
* Argyle? Check. (Yes, he's a category unto himself....because he's a cool motherf***er.)
Such a rewatchable movie.
No annoying prettyboy models that try to pass as action stars, no "plucky" female characters, no precocious kids, no horrible pop soundtrack (except what Argyle listens to, but he can because he rocks).
In my humple opinion, THE perfect American action movie.
Often imitated, never equaled.
http://www.moviecompound.com/features/images/4johnmcclane.jpg
http://people.msoe.edu/~winkelmb/Pictures/Die%20Hard.jpg
Lord Valumart
09-16-2006, 04:24 PM
it's a special time in a young mans life when he sees Die Hard for the first time...
if you ever find a woman who likes all three and understands the Die Hard high five...she's a keeper:up:
anyhow....DIE HARD ****ING ROCKS *****!!!:mad::up:
Helghast
09-16-2006, 04:26 PM
Great casting. Great action. Great writing. Great movie.
Carmine Falcone
09-16-2006, 04:40 PM
Bruce Willis is the ****. Twelve Monkeys is his best role. Die Hard is his coolest. :cool:
You know, I actually don't like DH2 that much.
It's like an average action movie, with the bonus of having John McClane :(
But Die Hard with a Vengeance rocks, I should buy that one.
WorthyStevens
09-16-2006, 04:44 PM
* Cool sidekick, and great bond of friendship between the hero and him? Check
Carl Winslow? Check.
Carl Winslow? Check.
LOL :up:
You're right, Al Powell kicks ass as well.
When John and Al finally meet....*tears*
Carmine Falcone
09-16-2006, 04:46 PM
But Die Hard with a Vengeance rocks, I should buy that one.
I like that over Die Hard.
It has Samuel L. Jackson and I loved the villain and his plan. He started out all psychologically and ****..and later it turned out it was about stealing gold all along. Great. :up:
I didn't like the way Simon died though. There is an alternate ending that is surperior in every way to the scene that ended up in the movie.
Helghast
09-16-2006, 04:49 PM
Hell yeah. Nothing like a RPG to the chest, lol. I think it was that, I can't remember. Also the ending used in the book.
theShape
09-16-2006, 04:49 PM
Die Hard is badass as hell. :up:
Ghostvirus
09-16-2006, 04:52 PM
What was the alternate ending?
Carmine Falcone
09-16-2006, 04:54 PM
What was the alternate ending?
The 2003 R1 DVD version includes an alternate ending showing McClane and Simon playing a game of 'chicken' with a rocket launcher. In this alternate version, Simon Gruber and his crew get away with the gold and months later, McClane tracks Simon down in Eastern Europe. The number on the bottom of the asprin bottle (at the phone booth) leads McClane to Gruber. The gold is turned into small miniatures of the Empire State building and smuggled out of the country. McClane is thrown off the force, with the police thinking that he may actually be involved in the heist. The "game" that McClane and Simon play is about riddles that they give each other, and they are each supposed to figure out the answer within a few seconds. McClane shoots Simon with the Chinese rocket launcher and the last line of the movie, as he stands up from the table and walks away is, "Yipee kayay mother****er".
IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112864/trivia)
Helghast
09-16-2006, 04:56 PM
I thought Gruber shot himself? :dry: I need to find the DVD again...
The Chairman
09-16-2006, 04:58 PM
Watching it now, first time in like a year and a half maybe? Jesus H. Christ, what a movie...
* Cool hero? Check.
* Cool bad guy? Check.
* Cool sidekick, and great bond of friendship between the hero and him? Check
* A female character that not only is not annoying, but actually helps the plot and is very believable? Check.
* Awesome script, that apart from being tight, it's actually witty and funny (not forced and/or annoying like most action movies today)? Check
* Amazing, and I mean AMAZING action? Check.
* Argyle? Check. (Yes, he's a category unto himself....because he's a cool motherf***er.)
Such a rewatchable movie.
No annoying prettyboy models that try to pass as action stars, no "plucky" female characters, no precocious kids, no horrible pop soundtrack (except what Argyle listens to, but he can because he rocks).
In my humple opinion, THE perfect American action movie.
Often imitated, never equaled.
http://www.moviecompound.com/features/images/4johnmcclane.jpg
http://people.msoe.edu/~winkelmb/Pictures/Die%20Hard.jpg
Hey, that was Stevie Wonder and Run D.M.C. he was listening to! :cmad:
But seriously, Die Hard is the ultimate action movie for all the reasons Gammy stated. It's one of the few action movies where the characters aren't just 2-D cardboard cutouts and actually have depth and development to them. I love it.
As for Die Hard 2, yeah, it' ****. Fun the first few times, but lacks so much of what the first film had. With A Vengeance greatly makes up for it, though.
Hey, that was Stevie Wonder and Run D.M.C. he was listening to! :cmad:
But seriously, Die Hard is the ultimate action movie for all the reasons Gammy stated. It's one of the few action movies where the characters aren't just 2-D cardboard cutouts and actually have depth and development to them. I love it.
As for Die Hard 2, yeah, it' ****. Fun the first few times, but lacks so much of what the first film had. With A Vengeance greatly makes up for it, though.
Oh snap! :O
Then all it's good :up:
The 2003 R1 DVD version includes an alternate ending showing McClane and Simon playing a game of 'chicken' with a rocket launcher. In this alternate version, Simon Gruber and his crew get away with the gold and months later, McClane tracks Simon down in Eastern Europe. The number on the bottom of the asprin bottle (at the phone booth) leads McClane to Gruber. The gold is turned into small miniatures of the Empire State building and smuggled out of the country. McClane is thrown off the force, with the police thinking that he may actually be involved in the heist. The "game" that McClane and Simon play is about riddles that they give each other, and they are each supposed to figure out the answer within a few seconds. McClane shoots Simon with the Chinese rocket launcher and the last line of the movie, as he stands up from the table and walks away is, "Yipee kayay mother****er".
IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112864/trivia)
Holy ****, I need the 2 disc set!
theShape
09-16-2006, 05:17 PM
The 2003 R1 DVD version includes an alternate ending showing McClane and Simon playing a game of 'chicken' with a rocket launcher. In this alternate version, Simon Gruber and his crew get away with the gold and months later, McClane tracks Simon down in Eastern Europe. The number on the bottom of the asprin bottle (at the phone booth) leads McClane to Gruber. The gold is turned into small miniatures of the Empire State building and smuggled out of the country. McClane is thrown off the force, with the police thinking that he may actually be involved in the heist. The "game" that McClane and Simon play is about riddles that they give each other, and they are each supposed to figure out the answer within a few seconds. McClane shoots Simon with the Chinese rocket launcher and the last line of the movie, as he stands up from the table and walks away is, "Yipee kayay mother****er".
IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112864/trivia)
Now THAT would have been an ending.
ultimatefan
09-16-2006, 05:18 PM
Answering the question, a big part of it was Bruce Willis, IMO. He has real charisma and made the characterīs sense of humor in this dangerous situation feel real and honest. It wasnīt afraid to be R-rated or to have a hero cop who could kill without whining over it, it was tight and clever and never so over-the-top that puts you off the hook, everything is practical and believable, and the villain is witty and played with a great sense of irony by Alan Rickman.
Ghostvirus
09-16-2006, 05:25 PM
I think the 80's were the best decade for action movies. They balanced cheese, & serious perfectly.
BeserkerHilf
09-16-2006, 05:34 PM
the die hard high five?
XwolverineX
09-16-2006, 06:12 PM
It just... Is. I've seen this movie twice, and loved it both times. I need to see it again, actually.
black_dust
09-16-2006, 06:23 PM
"Come out to the cost we`ll get together have a few laughs"
I love Die Hard and everything about it
I do hope Die hard 4 doesnt spoil some dam cool films....
Lord Valumart
09-16-2006, 06:53 PM
the die hard high five?
never heard of the die hard high five?
basicly someone shouts "die hard!!" holds up theirhand and awaits a high five...if it takes longer than 2 seconds to get a high five you need a new group of freinds:word:
Gamma Ray
09-16-2006, 07:23 PM
Carl Winslow? Check.
I thought he was talking about Argyle!
Hunter Rider
09-16-2006, 09:28 PM
I was all ready to waffle on this movies greatness but Gammy my friend you summed it all up in those nifty written soundbytes:O:up:
Obsidian
09-16-2006, 10:54 PM
"Die Hard" is a masterpiece! Die Hard 2 and 3 are decent action flicks, but Die Hard 3 is less of a Die Hard film and feels more like a "Lethal Weapon" movie
tinister
09-16-2006, 11:02 PM
Answering the question, a big part of it was Bruce Willis, IMO. He has real charisma and made the characterīs sense of humor in this dangerous situation feel real and honest. It wasnīt afraid to be R-rated or to have a hero cop who could kill without whining over it, it was tight and clever and never so over-the-top that puts you off the hook, everything is practical and believable, and the villain is witty and played with a great sense of irony by Alan Rickman.
I agree. Die Hard was an awesome movie - but it would not have been the huge success without Willis. He wasn't that big a star back then, so his character registered as just a regular dude caught in an extraordinary situation. Every male in the audience identified with Willis, and this gave almost all of his actions and reactions in the movie a certain level of reality.
I saw it in the movie theater as part of a double feature with the first Lethal Weapon - if I remember right. It was just me and my best friend. One of the most memorable times I had at the movies.
Edd Extraordinaire
09-17-2006, 02:31 AM
To be honest, it was the first successful film of its genre.
Ghostvirus
09-17-2006, 07:42 AM
"Die Hard" is a masterpiece! Die Hard 2 and 3 are decent action flicks, but Die Hard 3 is less of a Die Hard film and feels more like a "Lethal Weapon" movie
This begs the question. Why hasn't there been a Die Hard/Lethal Weapon movie? It wouldn't be that hard. Just have them all join together to fight some dude, or dudes.
7Hells
09-17-2006, 08:03 AM
Any movie with Alan Rickman as the villian is incredible.
Electro UK
09-17-2006, 12:29 PM
Watching it now, first time in like a year and a half maybe? Jesus H. Christ, what a movie...
* Cool hero? Check.
* Cool bad guy? Check.
* Cool sidekick, and great bond of friendship between the hero and him? Check
* A female character that not only is not annoying, but actually helps the plot and is very believable? Check.
* Awesome script, that apart from being tight, it's actually witty and funny (not forced and/or annoying like most action movies today)? Check
* Amazing, and I mean AMAZING action? Check.
* Argyle? Check. (Yes, he's a category unto himself....because he's a cool motherf***er.)
Such a rewatchable movie.
No annoying prettyboy models that try to pass as action stars, no "plucky" female characters, no precocious kids, no horrible pop soundtrack (except what Argyle listens to, but he can because he rocks).
In my humple opinion, THE perfect American action movie.
Often imitated, never equaled.
Oh you finally got your act together and watched it again huh? :p
Die Hard is the most awesome thing that could ever exist.
Electro UK
09-17-2006, 12:38 PM
Oh and here's the ultimate Die Hard list in answer to Gammy's question... I made it myself!
Because of the awesome name
Because of Alan Rickman's great acting
Because of Bruce Willis's great acting
Because of the huge amounts of violence
Because of Mclane's wit
Because of Hans' brilliant character
Because of Hans' sarcasm
Because of the huge long fight scenes with lots of blood
Because its the first real film of its kind
Because its the definitive action movie
Because of "Yipee Kaiaye Mother *****er
Because of the humour of the useless police
Because of the huge cannon that Al has even though he never aims a gun at people
Because of Argayle's humour
Because Argayle smacked that black dude out
Because of the little hockey puck grenade things
Because of the stoopid F.B.I. guys being blown up
Because John Mclane dropped down an elevator shaft
Because it has a nice pair of boobs in it
Because of the Chinese guy that eats the chocolate while shooting the SWAT team
Because of the bit where John blows his gun after shooting Hans and the other guy
Because of Dick Thorneburg
Because of the Anchroman who tries to impress the audience but totally fails
Because of the large amounts of swearing
Because of pushing C4 down an elevator shaft
Because of the scene wherethe vault opens
Because of "Now I have a machine gun HO-HO-HO."
Because of the hard guy with long hair
Because John Mclane jumps off a building with only a fire hose tied round his waist
Because you get a slow motion shot of Hans falling from the building
Because of the way the "Die" and "Hard" smack into each other for the opening title
Beause of "Welcome to the Party pal."
Because of John using the tape to stick the gun to his back
Because of the sharing of laughter before John blows Hans away
Because of blowing up a police RB
Because of the phrase "Butt *****ed"
Because of the SWAT guys hurting themselves on the roses
Because of the blonde long haired guy being strung up
Because of the AWESOME soundtrack
Because of John Mclane shooting up the terroists legs from under the table and saying "Thanks for the advice."
Because of John's cockiness when he points the gun at Han's when he pretends to be american
Because of "You think I'm stupid Hans?" Ding! "You were saying?"
Because of Let It Snow being the ending song
Because of the utter explosions on Karle's (the blonde long haired guy) body as Al shoots him
Because of John's "Woo!" as he hugs Al
Because John talks to himself
Because of "Come out to the coast, we'll get together have a few laughs."
Because the DVD cover is awesome
Because of the scene where John'spulling glass out of his foot.
I could probably go on for many more an hour.
Electro UK
09-17-2006, 12:46 PM
You know, I actually don't like DH2 that much.
It's like an average action movie, with the bonus of having John McClane :(
But Die Hard with a Vengeance rocks, I should buy that one.
We're gonna go over this one last time... you buy this:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2689.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch12)
Its beautiful, best thing I've ever owned. I'd step over my own Mother for it. Inside is even better however.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2690.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch11)
3 films treasured so much, terroists make targets of them.
And FINALLY, you also get this orgasmic piece of material (well not this exact one, this is my personal one):
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2691.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch10)
All of that, and the rest of your DVD collection doesn't matter when it looks like this:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2686.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch15)
I'd take a bullet for it. And that's not a lie. I. Love. Die. Hard.
Lord Valumart
09-17-2006, 12:48 PM
Any movie with Alan Rickman as the villian is incredible.
help, i'm a fish?:huh:
Lord Valumart
09-17-2006, 12:51 PM
We're gonna go over this one last time... you buy this:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2689.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch12)
Its beautiful, best thing I've ever owned. I'd step over my own Mother for it. Inside is even better however.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2690.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch11)
3 films treasured so much, terroists make targets of them.
And FINALLY, you also get this orgasmic piece of material (well not this exact one, this is my personal one):
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2691.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch10)
All of that, and the rest of your DVD collection doesn't matter when it looks like this:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2686.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch15)
I'd take a bullet for it. And that's not a lie. I. Love. Die. Hard.
i want that box set but i have the 1+2 boxset and the 2 disc edition of the 3rd, all bought about 3 weeks before the boxset came out:cmad:
D.Rex
09-17-2006, 05:40 PM
One of the most kickass movies I've ever seen. Great action and story. McClane is one of my all time favorite movie heroes.
SoulManX
09-17-2006, 06:11 PM
That movie kicks so much ass that we study it in film school.
DIE HARD:yay:
jimmylace
09-17-2006, 06:32 PM
Why is "Die Hard" so perfect?
There are a vast number of reasons as to why Die Hard is such a perfect film and why THERE WILL NEVER BE A BETTER ACTION FILM MADE AGAIN.
1- When it was made!
with political correctness out of the way, a major factor in the success of this movie is that it was made in a time where it was okay to portray strong masculine roles that men can relate to and still do.
subsequent action movies would usually include the annoying female
side-kick. Dont get me wrong, I've got nothing against ass-kicking girls but they usually never work in movies because:
a/ like it or not, women are not as prone to violence in reality.
b/ ^they tend to fail to explain what has motivated said girl to be a fighter.
c/ girls are still not portrayed as equals in modern movies- female characters are *required* to have a "sexual power" to them which usually means that despite being rough and tumble they always *have* to look overly sexy-which automatically makes them less believable and goes against the nature of the character. i.e wearing catsuits for no reason.
Usually theyre always "self-aware" of the fact that "hey I'm a girl kicking ass wink wink nudge mudge*, ...and of course the big one.
d/ Because of the lack of equality, we can't see a female action character die on screen at the hands of a man , so theres never a sense of threat.
The only female action hero to have ever worked was sigourney weaver as ripley and that's only because it was not written with a girl in mind.
2- No CGI, no over stylisation
The above means that theres no pretention, no silly shaky-cam or uber-slick look, just a slightly heightened reality full of well-written and crowd pleasing cliches...if youre too cocky, youre going to die....but damn it works and you believe youre there with him.
3- It's a story that every one loves- the out-numbered average joe triumphs against the rich baddies with the toys, using god-given ingenuity.
4- R-rated....necessary for a movie on this subject, not tailored to get as much money as possible by aiming it at kids. made in a time where the movie came first, then the box-office.
5- Tight. Very tightly written, with no-fat around the edges. characterisation is strong but this is communicated though quick-fire dialogue and reactions instead of "hangin around with the character for 2 hr 45 minutes. Die Hard is tight and lean.
6-The surprise factor-Bruce Willis turns in a great performance. The baddies are hilariously sterotypical but it's great. Alan Rickman is great in this movie too. It's well-acted and well directed.
jimmylace
09-17-2006, 06:34 PM
the sequels are very good too, *and thats because they don't try to be the first one. very much looking forward to Die Hard 4 next summer.....
Why is "Die Hard" so perfect?
There are a vast number of reasons as to why Die Hard is such a perfect film and why THERE WILL NEVER BE A BETTER ACTION FILM MADE AGAIN.
1- When it was made!
with political correctness out of the way, a major factor in the success of this movie is that it was made in a time where it was okay to portray strong masculine roles that men can relate to and still do.
subsequent action movies would usually include the annoying female
side-kick. Dont get me wrong, I've got nothing against ass-kicking girls but they usually never work in movies because:
a/ like it or not, women are not as prone to violence in reality.
b/ ^they tend to fail to explain what has motivated said girl to be a fighter.
c/ girls are still not portrayed as equals in modern movies- female characters are *required* to have a "sexual power" to them which usually means that despite being rough and tumble they always *have* to look overly sexy-which automatically makes them less believable and goes against the nature of the character. i.e wearing catsuits for no reason.
Usually theyre always "self-aware" of the fact that "hey I'm a girl kicking ass wink wink nudge mudge*, ...and of course the big one.
d/ Because of the lack of equality, we can't see a female action character die on screen at the hands of a man , so theres never a sense of threat.
The only female action hero to have ever worked was sigourney weaver as ripley and that's only because it was not written with a girl in mind.
2- No CGI, no over stylisation
The above means that theres no pretention, no silly shaky-cam or uber-slick look, just a slightly heightened reality full of well-written and crowd pleasing cliches...if youre too cocky, youre going to die....but damn it works and you believe youre there with him.
3- It's a story that every one loves- the out-numbered average joe triumphs against the rich baddies with the toys, using god-given ingenuity.
4- R-rated....necessary for a movie on this subject, not tailored to get as much money as possible by aiming it at kids. made in a time where the movie came first, then the box-office.
5- Tight. Very tightly written, with no-fat around the edges. characterisation is strong but this is communicated though quick-fire dialogue and reactions instead of "hangin around with the character for 2 hr 45 minutes. Die Hard is tight and lean.
6-The surprise factor-Bruce Willis turns in a great performance. The baddies are hilariously sterotypical but it's great. Alan Rickman is great in this movie too. It's well-acted and well directed.
Great post, my man :up:
Spike_x1
09-17-2006, 08:38 PM
It's not just a perfect action movie. It's a perfect Christmas movie. I always watch it around the holidays, because it just puts you in such a good mood for that time of year. "Let it Snow" during the end credits is absolutely genius. :D:up:
Ok, I just finished it for the 2nd. time this weekend, and I found some more awesome things.
- The 'John vs. Karl' fight is f***ing hardcore. Karl has his old school Karate, but John just punches the hell out of him. He just doesn't care Karl is a freaking giant.
- The way John just KNOWS who Al is, and their meeting....ugh... so awesome.
****, this movie rules.
ultimatefan
09-17-2006, 08:47 PM
Why is "Die Hard" so perfect?
There are a vast number of reasons as to why Die Hard is such a perfect film and why THERE WILL NEVER BE A BETTER ACTION FILM MADE AGAIN.
1- When it was made!
with political correctness out of the way, a major factor in the success of this movie is that it was made in a time where it was okay to portray strong masculine roles that men can relate to and still do.
subsequent action movies would usually include the annoying female
side-kick. Dont get me wrong, I've got nothing against ass-kicking girls but they usually never work in movies because:
a/ like it or not, women are not as prone to violence in reality.
b/ ^they tend to fail to explain what has motivated said girl to be a fighter.
c/ girls are still not portrayed as equals in modern movies- female characters are *required* to have a "sexual power" to them which usually means that despite being rough and tumble they always *have* to look overly sexy-which automatically makes them less believable and goes against the nature of the character. i.e wearing catsuits for no reason.
Usually theyre always "self-aware" of the fact that "hey I'm a girl kicking ass wink wink nudge mudge*, ...and of course the big one.
d/ Because of the lack of equality, we can't see a female action character die on screen at the hands of a man , so theres never a sense of threat.
The only female action hero to have ever worked was sigourney weaver as ripley and that's only because it was not written with a girl in mind.
2- No CGI, no over stylisation
The above means that theres no pretention, no silly shaky-cam or uber-slick look, just a slightly heightened reality full of well-written and crowd pleasing cliches...if youre too cocky, youre going to die....but damn it works and you believe youre there with him.
3- It's a story that every one loves- the out-numbered average joe triumphs against the rich baddies with the toys, using god-given ingenuity.
4- R-rated....necessary for a movie on this subject, not tailored to get as much money as possible by aiming it at kids. made in a time where the movie came first, then the box-office.
5- Tight. Very tightly written, with no-fat around the edges. characterisation is strong but this is communicated though quick-fire dialogue and reactions instead of "hangin around with the character for 2 hr 45 minutes. Die Hard is tight and lean.
6-The surprise factor-Bruce Willis turns in a great performance. The baddies are hilariously sterotypical but it's great. Alan Rickman is great in this movie too. It's well-acted and well directed.
Itīs all cool, except in Hollywood the box office ALWAYS came first... Back then R-rated action movies full of testosterone were in high demand.
matrix_ghost
09-17-2006, 09:55 PM
it's a special time in a young mans life when he sees Die Hard for the first time...
if you ever find a woman who likes all three and understands the Die Hard high five...she's a keeper:up:
anyhow....DIE HARD ****ING ROCKS *****!!!:mad::up:
LMAO :woot: :woot: :woot:
This seriously made me laugh out loud
But yeah , Die Hard is just a prime example of how chemistry works and how NOT to make characters annoying.
But as much as i love Die Hard 1 , i still think the 3rd one is the best.
The opening with John wearing the sign and then the blakc guy screaming "What the Fu ck !". And of course , the plot is so absurd that it actually makes sense
And last but not least , the one speech :D :
Zeus: Why do you keep calling me 'Jesus'? Do I look Puerto Rican to you?
John McClane: Guy back there called you 'Jesus'.
Zeus: He didn't say 'Jesus'. He said, "Hey, Zeus!" My name is Zeus.
John McClane: Zeus?
Zeus: Yeah, Zeus. As in father of Apollo? Mt. Olympus? Don't fu ck with me or I'll shove a lightning bolt up your ass? Zeus! You got a problem with that?
God actually created the F-bomb for Sam Jackson when he first breathed life into his body.
Wolfwood
09-18-2006, 02:22 AM
In case no one has seen it:
Die Hard in old fashion silent film style:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=StuihXsyEqU&mode=related&search=
Spoarz
09-18-2006, 05:07 AM
I absolutely f**king love Die Hard. It's probably the movie I've seen the most times throughout my life, and I mean a dangerous amount of times, especially considering I'm only 20. I don't like to say this very often about a film, but Die Hard truly is a perfect movie.
jimmylace
09-18-2006, 07:05 AM
Great post, my man :up:
thanks :woot:
jimmylace
09-18-2006, 07:08 AM
Itīs all cool, except in Hollywood the box office ALWAYS came first... Back then R-rated action movies full of testosterone were in high demand.
yeah, I agree...it was just artistic license I was using to make my argument a little more coherent. What I meant, or was implying, is that it was made in a time before the super-blockbuster...and like you say when there was a demand for r-rated movies like predator, lethal weapon, commando etc...and most of these movies were very pro-gun
StarWarsAgent
09-18-2006, 07:12 AM
Why is the movie called "Die Hard?" is Bruce never dies in the movie?
XwolverineX
09-18-2006, 07:27 AM
This thread is making me want to buy the collectors edition DVD.
ultimatefan
09-18-2006, 07:42 AM
yeah, I agree...it was just artistic license I was using to make my argument a little more coherent. What I meant, or was implying, is that it was made in a time before the super-blockbuster...and like you say when there was a demand for r-rated movies like predator, lethal weapon, commando etc...and most of these movies were very pro-gun
Oh yeah, before a studio would spend Ibizaīs PNB on a movie and hype up the hell out of it before release and pray for breaking opening weekend records...
Electro UK
09-18-2006, 09:59 AM
This thread is making me want to buy the collectors edition DVD.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2689.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch12)
You KNOW you want to. Die Hard is not just a perfect movie, its perfect full stop. Wars have been waged over it, because its worth fighting for. The funny thing is, I can remember EVERY time I watched Die Hard... which on total (no joke) amounts to... 49... and I'm only 16.
I just watch it ALL the time, it is my favorite thing in the universe. Bigger than Jesus, better than sex. Its just incredible. Die Hard. Die. Hard. DIE. HARD! No two words have ever fitted so beautifully together. When the film was finished, the makers said to themselves "Truly, we are kings amoung mere mortals."
DIE HARD!
Muera Duramente!
Mourir Fort!
Sterben Sie Hart! (Germany have 3 words for it :confused:)
Morire Duro!
Sterf Hard!
Умрите Трудно!
ダイ・ハード!
很難改變!
It sounds good in whatever language you say it (2nd to last is Japanese, last is Chinese and 3rd to last is Russian).
Lord Valumart
09-18-2006, 10:10 AM
LMAO :woot: :woot: :woot:
This seriously made me laugh out loud
it may be funny, but it's true:word:
jimmylace
09-18-2006, 10:49 AM
^ in russian, the title of die hard translates as "a tough nut to crack" wouldnt have quite the same ring to it in english.
Okay so the spidey-3 board is pretty much dead due to the lack of the news and I'm at that kind of point where I've had my fill of spidey scoops, so I think we should try and keep this thread alive :woot:
Live Free or Die Hard- great AICN script review-end of the world stuff sounds promising.....director Len Wiseman...not so good. What are your thoughts about the next Die Hard movie????? Excited?
Dr. Fate
09-18-2006, 11:56 AM
Watching it now, first time in like a year and a half maybe? Jesus H. Christ, what a movie...
* Cool hero? Check.
* Cool bad guy? Check.
* Cool sidekick, and great bond of friendship between the hero and him? Check
* A female character that not only is not annoying, but actually helps the plot and is very believable? Check.
* Awesome script, that apart from being tight, it's actually witty and funny (not forced and/or annoying like most action movies today)? Check
* Amazing, and I mean AMAZING action? Check.
* Argyle? Check. (Yes, he's a category unto himself....because he's a cool motherf***er.)
Such a rewatchable movie.
No annoying prettyboy models that try to pass as action stars, no "plucky" female characters, no precocious kids, no horrible pop soundtrack (except what Argyle listens to, but he can because he rocks).
In my humple opinion, THE perfect American action movie.
Often imitated, never equaled.
http://www.moviecompound.com/features/images/4johnmcclane.jpg
http://people.msoe.edu/~winkelmb/Pictures/Die%20Hard.jpg
Yep. Die Hard forever.
Electro UK
09-18-2006, 12:35 PM
^ in russian, the title of die hard translates as "a tough nut to crack" wouldnt have quite the same ring to it in english.
Okay so the spidey-3 board is pretty much dead due to the lack of the news and I'm at that kind of point where I've had my fill of spidey scoops, so I think we should try and keep this thread alive :woot:
Live Free or Die Hard- great AICN script review-end of the world stuff sounds promising.....director Len Wiseman...not so good. What are your thoughts about the next Die Hard movie????? Excited?
I'm scared to DEATH that its gonna suck, I really really am. If it does, I'm gonna pretend it doesn't exist and isn't a part of the Die Hard Masterworks.
ultimatefan
09-18-2006, 12:46 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/100_2689.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Spiderjam/?start=#imgAnch12)
You KNOW you want to. Die Hard is not just a perfect movie, its perfect full stop. Wars have been waged over it, because its worth fighting for. The funny thing is, I can remember EVERY time I watched Die Hard... which on total (no joke) amounts to... 49... and I'm only 16.
I just watch it ALL the time, it is my favorite thing in the universe. Bigger than Jesus, better than sex. Its just incredible. Die Hard. Die. Hard. DIE. HARD! No two words have ever fitted so beautifully together. When the film was finished, the makers said to themselves "Truly, we are kings amoung mere mortals."
DIE HARD!
Muera Duramente!
Mourir Fort!
Sterben Sie Hart! (Germany have 3 words for it :confused:)
Morire Duro!
Sterf Hard!
Умрите Трудно!
ダイ・ハード!
很難改變!
It sounds good in whatever language you say it (2nd to last is Japanese, last is Chinese and 3rd to last is Russian).
Duro de Matar! (Portuguese)
Duro de Matar! (Portuguese)
LOL!
Exact same title in Spanish :O
Chris Wallace
09-18-2006, 02:49 PM
Watching it now, first time in like a year and a half maybe? Jesus H. Christ, what a movie...
* Cool hero? Check.
* Cool bad guy? Check.
* Cool sidekick, and great bond of friendship between the hero and him? Check
* A female character that not only is not annoying, but actually helps the plot and is very believable? Check.
* Awesome script, that apart from being tight, it's actually witty and funny (not forced and/or annoying like most action movies today)? Check
* Amazing, and I mean AMAZING action? Check.
* Argyle? Check. (Yes, he's a category unto himself....because he's a cool motherf***er.)
Such a rewatchable movie.
No annoying prettyboy models that try to pass as action stars, no "plucky" female characters, no precocious kids, no horrible pop soundtrack (except what Argyle listens to, but he can because he rocks).
In my humple opinion, THE perfect American action movie.
Often imitated, never equaled.
http://www.moviecompound.com/features/images/4johnmcclane.jpg
http://people.msoe.edu/~winkelmb/Pictures/Die%20Hard.jpg
Why is Die Hard so perfect? Because John McClain isn't. He's an ordinary man fighting seemingly impossible odds & when he succeeds, he does not come out of it smelling like a rose. As outlandish as this movie was, it still maintains a believability factor.
amazingfantasy15
09-18-2006, 08:28 PM
Why is Die Hard so perfect? Because John McClain isn't. He's an ordinary man fighting seemingly impossible odds & when he succeeds, he does not come out of it smelling like a rose. As outlandish as this movie was, it still maintains a believability factor.
Exactly, that's why the movie is great, John McClane is Arh-nold or Stallone, he's an everyman, not overly muscular or even in shape. He's not a karate expert, he's a street fighter, always playing against the rules and authority. One of my favorite movies.
Armand Z Trip
09-20-2006, 09:51 AM
Exactly, that's why the movie is great, John McClane is Arh-nold or Stallone, he's an everyman, not overly muscular or even in shape. He's not a karate expert, he's a street fighter, always playing against the rules and authority. One of my favorite movies.
Agreed. McClane is a working guy who swears, argues, fights and smokes like a working guy. There is no briefcase full of money, magical powers or bimbos for him. And like a working guy, when reaches out to the authorities for help, not only is there no help, he is insulted for daring to ask.
Chris Wallace
09-20-2006, 05:19 PM
And had his wife not been endangered, he might not have even gotten involved.
amazingfantasy15
09-20-2006, 09:34 PM
And like a working guy, when reaches out to the authorities for help, not only is there no help, he is insulted for daring to ask.
Oh yeah, one of the best part's of the movie, "What does it sound like I'm ordering an f'ing pizza?!?!"
JackBauer
09-20-2006, 10:09 PM
VERY summed up version of what was the best.
1) the characters. John is the badass we all wished we were. Al is that friend you wish you had. Hans is the ultimate "love to hate" villain.
2) the dialogue. all over. specially between John/Hans and John/Al. not to mention some classic action movie one-liners.
3) the chemistry. it was simply un-f***in-believable. they managed to have this amazing chemistry between characters who didn't even know each, who didn't even meet. when John notices he's talking to Hans, you almost expect him to say "We meet again." when John meets Al, it's like they've been friends since forever.
4) the action. nothing TOO over the top, and they always make sure to make it as tense as possible.
5) the actors. Willis is irrepleaceable. no one has ever managed to make this kind of character quite like him. and Reginald Veljohnson makes one of the most likeable cops in film history, who can still be tough as nails when he has to.
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 09:15 AM
Would that all action movies could follow such a formula. You end up liking everybody. Was it just me, or did a small part of you want Hans to get away?
PyroChamber
09-21-2006, 10:51 AM
I see this movie at least 3 or 4 times a month, they show it all the time on Fox Movie Channel, this and Die Hard with a Vengence. And I watch it every change I get. Was I the only who liked Al the cop?
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 10:57 AM
Was I the only who liked Al the cop?
Hell, no. The posters on this thread give him almost as much credit for their enjoyment of the movie as they give John.
Hell no!
Al rocks!
I don't think I've ever known someone who didn't LOVE Sgt. Al Powell :up:
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 11:33 AM
So you see, PC, you can't have Al all to yourself. Hell, let's just throw out reasons why we like him.
At times, he gave John very much-needed mopral support.
He stood up for John when that dumbass Police Chief came to mess everything up :up:
Carmine Falcone
09-21-2006, 11:35 AM
He bought a ****load of doughnuts.
He knew the Twinkie ingredients :up:
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 11:37 AM
"They're shooting at the lights..."
I swear I thought he was gonna tag "Dumb@$$" on the end of that sentence.
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 11:40 AM
Oh, and he had no problem getting in his idiot boss's face.
And he & John were on the same page throughout the movie.
"LAPD's not calling the shots anymore."
"Feds?"
"Yup."
Plus their kids were going to play together :up:
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 11:53 AM
I forget, who was supposed to bring what to the barbecue?
I forget, who was supposed to bring what to the barbecue?
I thought they were going to the park or something, and John was buying the ice cream.
I SEE SPIDEY
09-21-2006, 12:18 PM
Die Hard was awsome
Die Hard 2 was boring and the villian was lame
Die Hard 3 was awsome
ultimatefan
09-21-2006, 12:29 PM
Die Hard was awsome
Die Hard 2 was boring and the villian was lame
Die Hard 3 was awsome
Yeah, the second one was basically a rehash of the first, but the third was a nice change of pace.
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 12:48 PM
2 Had Its Moments But Was Largely Forgettable. Plus I Think I Watched Good Times Too Long To Swallow John Amos As A Bad Guy.
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 12:49 PM
Was die hard perfect?
Lord Valumart
09-21-2006, 12:51 PM
Was die hard perfect?
YES!!!:cmad:
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 01:00 PM
YES!!!:cmad:
There are better action films though, it's quite good, but it's not exactly perfect.
Lord Valumart
09-21-2006, 01:11 PM
There are better action films though, it's quite good, but it's not exactly perfect.
can you watchi die hard with your kid? yes
can you watch die hard with your parents? yes
can you watch die hard with your gf/partner/whatever? yes
can you make out during die hard? yes
can you have sex during die hard? yes
can you quote die hard line for line? yes
how many other action movies can you do that with?
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 01:18 PM
can you watchi die hard with your kid? yes
can you watch die hard with your parents? yes
can you watch die hard with your gf/partner/whatever? yes
can you make out during die hard? yes
can you have sex during die hard? yes
can you quote die hard line for line? yes
how many other action movies can you do that with?
What about cinematography? Character design and development? Skill of editing? Original narrative? Interesting narrative structure? Challenging nature? Style? etc...
I think I watch films for something more than you, but I guess it does fill your criterion for a good film. But Lethal weapon films have the same properties.
I think Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is one of the best films to watch on a first date, as it's great for lines, acting, cinematography, editing and narrative structure and design. Not one of my fav films by any stretch, but very good for those things.
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 01:27 PM
I Think Lethal Weapon Is, At Best, On Par With Die Hard. It's No Better, No Less.
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 01:31 PM
I Think Lethal Weapon Is, At Best, On Par With Die Hard. It's No Better, No Less.
But there are much deeper and better action films, and as films go in general, Die hard is by no means perfect!
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 01:37 PM
But there are much deeper and better action films, and as films go in general, Die hard is by no means perfect!
Maybe not. But it's highly enjoyable & has remained so for 17 years, so that's something. How many movies did you STILL like 17 years later? Some movies lose their appeal after 2 or 3 years.
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 01:41 PM
Maybe not. But it's highly enjoyable & has remained so for 17 years, so that's something. How many movies did you STILL like 17 years later? Some movies lose their appeal after 2 or 3 years.
See, for me, Die hard is one of those films that lost it's entertainment value after a third veiwing. I watch about a film a day, and have seen quite a few films that are worse, but seen a lot more that are better, that are re-watchable, there are quite a few films i've just had to rewatch straight away after a first veiwing, die hard never made me wanna do anything like that.
I SEE SPIDEY
09-21-2006, 01:53 PM
Good for you! Because lord knows your opinion is king.
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 01:56 PM
Good for you! Because lord knows your opinion is king.
Well surely something being perfect is universal and indisputable, so Die hard can't be perfect as it is not universally agreed upon, so i'm welcome to my subjective veiwpoint as much as everyone else.
I'll add you to my fan club eh? lol
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 02:19 PM
Actually, Cyrusbales, I've found you to be very tolerant & respectful of the opinions expressed on this thread; you just clearly don't share them.
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 02:24 PM
Actually, Cyrusbales, I've found you to be very tolerant & respectful of the opinions expressed on this thread; you just clearly don't share them.
Thanks, I do feel like I may come across as disrespectful, but I try not to be, I never insult people, sometimes i'll insult films though! After i've argued my cases enough, I usually end up agreeing to disagree. :) Cheers
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 02:29 PM
And what have you really said about Die Hard? It wasn't your cup of tea? Oh-that's scathing!
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 02:35 PM
And what have you really said about Die Hard? It wasn't your cup of tea? Oh-that's scathing!
Well, I proved it wasn't perfect by definition, lol.
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 02:50 PM
So since it wasn't your cup of tea, that's a flaw?
Cyrusbales
09-21-2006, 02:54 PM
So since it wasn't your cup of tea, that's a flaw?
Well for something to be pefect, it cannot be questioned that it is perfect, as ambiguity is a flaw for something perfect. As I don't think the film is perfect, it means it cannot be perfect. Same goes for everything, if one person doesn't like it, it's not perfect. It can still be very good, but not perfect, It's just a little 'beef' i have with the phrasing of the thread, lol
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 03:14 PM
I'll buy that.
I still think it's perfect :(
Chris Wallace
09-21-2006, 04:04 PM
I still think it's perfect :(
And so it shall remain, as long as you see it that way.
Sweet!
*high fives himself*
JackBauer
09-21-2006, 05:22 PM
What about cinematography? Character design and development? Skill of editing? Original narrative? Interesting narrative structure? Challenging nature? Style? etc...
I think I watch films for something more than you, but I guess it does fill your criterion for a good film. But Lethal weapon films have the same properties.
I think Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is one of the best films to watch on a first date, as it's great for lines, acting, cinematography, editing and narrative structure and design. Not one of my fav films by any stretch, but very good for those things.
'kay, I'll bite. first things first: I don't want to start a fight, you're perfectly in your right to disagree, etc, etc.
as far as cinematography goes, it's great. look at the rooftop explosion, Hans' fall, the scene with John under the table, the elevator shaft explosion... it was all beautifully shot, and showed exactly what it should the way it should.
character development is f***in great. look at how John and Al go from complete strangers to growing an unbreakable bond, without even meeting no less! and you can actually notice how Holly slowly starts to care more about John, until she's finally in love with him all over again. it's all character development, and better yet, it's all believable.
the editing is a big part of the tension the movie. it doesn't make it any less skillfull. editing is not just including fancy effects that are nothing but distractions in the movie. look at most of Tony Scott's filmography for that.
as far as the narrative goes, it was incredibly original. it introduced the everyman as an action hero, for instance. now, I know it stopped being original, but that's not the movie's fault. it's the fault of the hundreds of rip-offs that came after.
by "interesting narrative structure", I'm assuming you mean something like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, with the chapters, and the flashbacks and all that jazz. guess what? that stopped being original a LONG time ago. now, I LOVE KKBB, but it's not really original as far as narrative structure goes. you have the clever character/narrator, the interruptions to the actual story, the flashbacks. nothing really new.
what KKBB DOES have is lots of charisma, which Die Hard also had by the truckload. and, might I add, I wouldn't really call KKBB an action movie. it had comedy, it had thrills, but straight up action... not much until the last scenes.
again, I'm not trying to invalidate your opinion. just looking for a good ol' debate. ;)
'kay, I'll bite. first things first: I don't want to start a fight, you're perfectly in your right to disagree, etc, etc.
as far as cinematography goes, it's great. look at the rooftop explosion, Hans' fall, the scene with John under the table, the elevator shaft explosion... it was all beautifully shot, and showed exactly what it should the way it should.
character development is f***in great. look at how John and Al go from complete strangers to growing an unbreakable bond, without even meeting no less! and you can actually notice how Holly slowly starts to care more about John, until she's finally in love with him all over again. it's all character development, and better yet, it's all believable.
the editing is a big part of the tension the movie. it doesn't make it any less skillfull. editing is not just including fancy effects that are nothing but distractions in the movie. look at most of Tony Scott's filmography for that.
as far as the narrative goes, it was incredibly original. it introduced the everyman as an action hero, for instance. now, I know it stopped being original, but that's not the movie's fault. it's the fault of the hundreds of rip-offs that came after.
by "interesting narrative structure", I'm assuming you mean something like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, with the chapters, and the flashbacks and all that jazz. guess what? that stopped being original a LONG time ago. now, I LOVE KKBB, but it's not really original as far as narrative structure goes. you have the clever character/narrator, the interruptions to the actual story, the flashbacks. nothing really new.
what KKBB DOES have is lots of charisma, which Die Hard also had by the truckload. and, might I add, I wouldn't really call KKBB an action movie. it had comedy, it had thrills, but straight up action... not much until the last scenes.
again, I'm not trying to invalidate your opinion. just looking for a good ol' debate. ;)
Marry me!
http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/J/-/-/-/may_gm_310_72.jpg
JackBauer
09-21-2006, 07:21 PM
Marry me!
http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/J/-/-/-/may_gm_310_72.jpg
uh... let's just be good friends for now and take it from there. *shakes hand from a distance* :oldrazz:
You didn't get the joke :mad:
JLBats
09-21-2006, 08:30 PM
Haha, guys, don't worry about Cyrusbale. His tastes are fairly diverse in a "focused like a laser beam" way.
JackBauer
09-21-2006, 09:00 PM
You didn't get the joke :mad:
what? which part? :huh:
what? which part? :huh:
Don't you watch Arrested Development? :(
JackBauer
09-22-2006, 11:50 AM
Don't you watch Arrested Development? :(
here and there, but not religiously like yourself. it's f***in great, I know.
and yes, you asking me to marry you is as forbidden a love as George Michael and Maeby's. perv. :cmad: :woot: :word:
No!
It was a running gag by Maeby! :( :mad:
Chris Wallace
09-22-2006, 12:09 PM
'kay, I'll bite. first things first: I don't want to start a fight, you're perfectly in your right to disagree, etc, etc.
as far as cinematography goes, it's great. look at the rooftop explosion, Hans' fall, the scene with John under the table, the elevator shaft explosion... it was all beautifully shot, and showed exactly what it should the way it should.
character development is f***in great. look at how John and Al go from complete strangers to growing an unbreakable bond, without even meeting no less! and you can actually notice how Holly slowly starts to care more about John, until she's finally in love with him all over again. it's all character development, and better yet, it's all believable.
the editing is a big part of the tension the movie. it doesn't make it any less skillfull. editing is not just including fancy effects that are nothing but distractions in the movie. look at most of Tony Scott's filmography for that.
as far as the narrative goes, it was incredibly original. it introduced the everyman as an action hero, for instance. now, I know it stopped being original, but that's not the movie's fault. it's the fault of the hundreds of rip-offs that came after.
by "interesting narrative structure", I'm assuming you mean something like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, with the chapters, and the flashbacks and all that jazz. guess what? that stopped being original a LONG time ago. now, I LOVE KKBB, but it's not really original as far as narrative structure goes. you have the clever character/narrator, the interruptions to the actual story, the flashbacks. nothing really new.
what KKBB DOES have is lots of charisma, which Die Hard also had by the truckload. and, might I add, I wouldn't really call KKBB an action movie. it had comedy, it had thrills, but straight up action... not much until the last scenes.
again, I'm not trying to invalidate your opinion. just looking for a good ol' debate. ;)
If you're going to defend character development & site Al & John's unbreakable bond, you should also point out that by the time they did meet, they knew each other on sight.
Or how said development carried over into the third film, when John didn't gain any ground against Simon until he started basing his moves on what Hans would do.
JackBauer
09-22-2006, 12:46 PM
No!
It was a running gag by Maeby! :( :mad:
like I said, I was more of an enthusiast. I should just repent and pick up the DVDs and watch it all back to back, huh?
JackBauer
09-22-2006, 12:47 PM
If you're going to defend character development & site Al & John's unbreakable bond, you should also point out that by the time they did meet, they knew each other on sight.
Or how said development carried over into the third film, when John didn't gain any ground against Simon until he started basing his moves on what Hans would do.
well... goes without saying. ;) :D
Chris Wallace
09-22-2006, 12:54 PM
I thought so, too, JB-until the film's character devlopment was brought into question.
like I said, I was more of an enthusiast. I should just repent and pick up the DVDs and watch it all back to back, huh?
Yes :D
If you're going to defend character development & site Al & John's unbreakable bond, you should also point out that by the time they did meet, they knew each other on sight.
Or how said development carried over into the third film, when John didn't gain any ground against Simon until he started basing his moves on what Hans would do.
That actually makes me cry tears of happiness.
Every time.
Chris Wallace
09-22-2006, 01:13 PM
That actually makes me cry tears of happiness.
Every time.
Every time?
I stopped after a year or so.
Chris Wallace
09-22-2006, 01:17 PM
And we should add that to our list of reasons why we like Al Powell.
Every time?
I stopped after a year or so.
I'm a pretty sentimental guy :mad: :(
JackBauer
09-22-2006, 01:36 PM
And we should add that to our list of reasons why we like Al Powell.
is his mustache included? cause that's sexy.
Chris Wallace
09-22-2006, 01:40 PM
I'm a pretty sentimental guy.
Nothing wrong w/that.
Jspider13
09-22-2006, 07:15 PM
Yes, Die Hard is my favorite movie of all time.
It's just a damn good movie that deserves it's recognition. I'm kind of skeptical about Live Free but I've always wanted to see a 4th film.
XwolverineX
09-22-2006, 07:25 PM
Die Hard might be the second best action movie after Terminator 2, it's possible.
Cyrusbales
09-23-2006, 03:00 PM
Terminator is better than T2! (bar special effects)
Dragon
09-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Watching it now, first time in like a year and a half maybe? Jesus H. Christ, what a movie...
* Cool hero? Check.
* Cool bad guy? Check.
* Cool sidekick, and great bond of friendship between the hero and him? Check
* A female character that not only is not annoying, but actually helps the plot and is very believable? Check.
* Awesome script, that apart from being tight, it's actually witty and funny (not forced and/or annoying like most action movies today)? Check
* Amazing, and I mean AMAZING action? Check.
* Argyle? Check. (Yes, he's a category unto himself....because he's a cool motherf***er.)
Such a rewatchable movie.
No annoying prettyboy models that try to pass as action stars, no "plucky" female characters, no precocious kids, no horrible pop soundtrack (except what Argyle listens to, but he can because he rocks).
In my humple opinion, THE perfect American action movie.
Often imitated, never equaled.
The film was an original and defined a genre. I saw it opening day. I didn't like the show Moonlighting,and thus wasn't too excited about seeing Bruce Willis on the big screen. I was expecting another mindless Stallone-Schwarzennegger-esque shoot 'em up.
And for a short time I thought it would be. Then Hans and his crew storm into the party and Bruce did the unbelievable for an 80's action hero. HE RAN. He thought like an f-ing cop should, and investigated what he was up against before firing a round. I was stunned. And I was with him for the rest of the movie. I wound-up going back to see that movie like 8 times that summer and dropped 80.00 bucks to buy it on videotape when it came out.
I loved the second one as well. Not so much the third, although it was as still kinda fun. So I'm hoping the next one isn't the "Batman & Robin" of the franchise.
Chris Wallace
09-25-2006, 10:03 AM
And here I was expecting Dragon to be the voice of dissent.
Hotwire
09-25-2006, 10:19 AM
Why is 'Die Hard' so perfect?
Five words....
Yippie
Kie
Yay
Mother
F***er
Chris Wallace
09-25-2006, 10:46 AM
There's something Gammy overlooked; wicked cool catch phrase.
Although I liked it better when Hans said it.
Chris Wallace
09-25-2006, 02:27 PM
Actually I just thought of one flaw; one character who would've irritated the thell out of me & made me wanna reach through the screen and choke him had he had more screen time: Ellis. That moron deserved that bullet to the head.
But then again, he got that bullet to the head, so the movie quickly fixes its only mistake :up:
Chris Wallace
09-25-2006, 02:55 PM
But then again, he got that bullet to the head, so the movie quickly fixes its only mistake :up:
That just proves how annoying he was; the movie itself couldn't endure his presence.
"I can give him to ya."
"What am I , a method actor? This is radio, not television."
BLAM!
Banshee
09-25-2006, 02:57 PM
Best
Thread
Ever
Here's to Die Hard, a beer (or twelve), a pizza, and a bunch of guys. Better than sex.
Chris Wallace
09-25-2006, 03:09 PM
This "Die Hard" appreciation thread has gotten quite a few hits; the vast majority of which are positive. This is good.
I would go as far as to say that Bruce gets a free pass for the rest of his career; automatic amnesty no matter how bad any future movie he makes might turn out to be. We have to forgive all stinkers on the merits of this one gem.
That just proves how annoying he was; the movie itself couldn't endure his presence.
"I can give him to ya."
"What am I , a method actor? This is radio, not television."
BLAM!
Hahaha yeah, he sucked.
That **** eating grin, grrrr!
(Btw, if you're a videogame fan, Black Panther will be playable in Marvel: Ultimate Alliance....thought you'd like to know)
This "Die Hard" appreciation thread has gotten quite a few hits; the vast majority of which are positive. This is good.
I would go as far as to say that Bruce gets a free pass for the rest of his career; automatic amnesty no matter how bad any future movie he makes might turn out to be. We have to forgive all stinkers on the merits of this one gem.
Hear, hear!
Speaking of Willis' movies....am I the only one who loves 'Last Man Standing'?
If you ask me, it's just as cool as "Yojimbo", "Fistful of Dollars" or "Miller's Crossing" in its own quirky "badass Bruce Willis action movie" kind of way.
Chris Wallace
09-25-2006, 03:36 PM
I actually haven't seen that one.
I thought "Hudson Hawk" was pretty bad; a case to which I had to apply his lifetime amnesty.
Jspider13
10-02-2006, 02:44 PM
Argyle should return.
Chris Wallace
10-02-2006, 02:47 PM
Hahaha yeah, he sucked.
That **** eating grin, grrrr!
(Btw, if you're a videogame fan, Black Panther will be playable in Marvel: Ultimate Alliance....thought you'd like to know)
Whoa, seriously? 'Cause I didn't see him in any of the promos.
Whoa, seriously? 'Cause I didn't see him in any of the promos.
He's an unlockable character ;) (http://wiki.xboxic.com/Marvel:_Ultimate_Alliance)
Chris Wallace
10-02-2006, 04:51 PM
Whoa. Sweet. My wife is gonna be thrilled. I love BP but she's a Panther fanatic. It's the only comic she really reads.
Then you both better be ready, cause the game comes out in 22 days :D :up:
I can't wait to play as T'Challa and good ol' Matty Murdock :up:
JackBauer
10-02-2006, 08:12 PM
guess you can now die a happy man, right, Gammy?
Well, I still have to get an Asian gf, but I'll be moving to Canada pretty soon, so yay! :up:
But after that, yeah...totally.
fabman
10-03-2006, 08:49 AM
Die.
Hard.
Is.
Perfect.
A.
Masterpiece.
The.
Best.
Action.
Movie.
Ever.
Chris Wallace
10-09-2006, 01:54 PM
I just watched it the other day. Still thrills me to no end.
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