Official Contest of Marvels II Discussion Thread

[Phaedrus45]

I dont need to talk, it shows a lack of confidence in yourself.

Ah, but by responding in any fashion, you've already talked.:wow:

[Darthphere]

Not technically.

[Iceman]

Less of the flirting in here thks :o

[Phaedrus45]

Less of the flirting in here thks :o

Ahhhh...Ice is jealous.

[Iceman]

Ahhhh...Ice is jealous.I've got no debates this week and noone's flirting with me :cmad:

[wiegeabo]

If we still have a contest on Dec. 22-29, you'll only have 1 match:

Thread 4: Hydroman (KYTRIGGER) vs. Whither (AHURA MAZDA).

If we do the above, then you have 3 matches on Dec. 30-Jan.5:

Thread 2: Doc Samson(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Cable-Telepath(HIPPY)

Thread 7: Empath(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Xi'an Chi Xan(WIEGEABO)

Thread 8: Valkyrie(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Modok(MIDNIGHT ICE)

If we take Dec.22-29 off, then you'll only miss the first match between Dec. 30-Jan.5.


If it makes things easier for you, AM, you could always just forfeit the Empath fight.

[hippy fascist]

Ok, I had no choice her, Jewhobs pushed me into it :(

...I've brought out the big guns...softcore lesbian porn!

I wash my hands of this whole issue and hope there's no impressionable kids playing :o

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, I had no choice her, Jewhobs pushed me into it :(

...I've brought out the big guns...softcore lesbian porn!

I wash my hands of this whole issue and hope there's no impressionable kids playing :o

This really upsets me.










I mean, I expect HARDCORE Lesbian Porn out of you guys!!!!!

(gotta make that a rule next season.)

[Iceman]

This really upsets me.

I mean, I expect HARDCORE Lesbian Porn out of you guys!!!!!

(gotta make that a rule next season.)I demand that Hippy is disqualified.

[hippy fascist]

I demand that Hippy is disqualified.

you're just jealous of my vast collection of lesbian porn :oldrazz:

[Iceman]

you're just jealous of my vast collection of lesbian porn :oldrazz:Yes.

[hippy fascist]

Yes.

Cool, I've got some spares if you've got anything you're looking to trade...

[Iceman]

Cool, I've got some spares if you've got anything you're looking to trade...Only home made efforts.

[hippy fascist]

Only home made efforts.

I'm guessing you're the star?

Yup...backing away from this conversation in a slow and calm manner...:wow:

[Phaedrus45]

I demand that Hippy is disqualified.

Just remember....a vote against hippy is a vote for Hardcore Lesbian Porn!

[Phaedrus45]

Cool, I've got some spares if you've got anything you're looking to trade...

I think I have a tape with JH and his brother-in-law in a tub together. Interested?

[hippy fascist]

I think I have a tape with JH and his brother-in-law in a tub together. Interested?

no... but I suddenly feel the compelling urge to take a shower...:csad:

[Phaedrus45]

My 4 year old daughter, Wendy, comes to work with me about 3 times a week, now. If she picked the winners for this week, here is who she liked to win each thread.

Thread 1:

Tana Nile
Delilah
Spider-Man 2099 (She loves Spidey...the darn traitor.)
Doorman

Thread 2:

Count Nefaria
Moses Magnum
Jocasta
Typhoid Mary

Thread 3:

Vermin
Warpath
New Sun
Spitfire

Thread 4:

Armada
Thor
Ch'od
Paibok

(Hmmm....those are some pretty good picks. Maybe I should let her bet for me with football games.)

[hippy fascist]

My 4 year old daughter, Wendy, comes to work with me about 3 times a week, now. If she picked the winners for this week, here is who she liked to win each thread.

Thread 1:

Tana Nile
Delilah
Spider-Man 2099 (She loves Spidey...the darn traitor.)
Doorman

Thread 2:

Count Nefaria
Moses Magnum
Jocasta
Typhoid Mary

Thread 3:

Vermin
Warpath
New Sun
Spitfire

Thread 4:

Armada
Thor
Ch'od
Paibok

(Hmmm....those are some pretty good picks. Maybe I should let her bet for me with football games.)

Your girl digs lesbians! AWESOME :word:

[Phaedrus45]

Your girl digs lesbians! AWESOME :word:

Hmmm...If Typhoid won....and Jocasta won...how would your Lesbian superpowers work then??? Typhoid might be wondering what type of batteries to bring.

[Phaedrus45]

Since I saw the question brought up, I cannot remember who remembers the Secret Wars. I thought a few heroes, such as Reed Richards, The Thing (I figure, since he spent a year there), and Spider-Man, if memory serves me correctly did. But, I thought many of the people who went there had their memories of it erased. Can anyone remember?

[Iceman]

I'm guessing you're the star?

Yup...backing away from this conversation in a slow and calm manner...:wow:I'm the bait for the lesbians.

Just remember....a vote against hippy is a vote for Hardcore Lesbian Porn!You've convinced me :word:

Also it's a vote against Hippy - BONUS :up:

[hippy fascist]

Phaed can you delay debating, I've had some stuff on this weekend so haven't been able to get a good debate going. If you could delay it twelve ish your time that would mean me and ahura might be able to get a last hour of debate in (we are seven and eight hours behind you respectively)... or at least give him some time to make sure he gets a last reply in...

[Hellstormer]

Damn I just went through my best debates yet. Ch'od vs Lizard (Harlekin), I gotta admit Harlekin even had me going, till I read my Starjammers issues.

I gotta edit the Wiki on Ch'od but I'm afraid taht could get me disqualified for tampering with a bio. What do you say Phaed?

[JewishHobbit]

I think I have a tape with JH and his brother-in-law in a tub together. Interested?

no... but I suddenly feel the compelling urge to take a shower...

:eek:HuhWHAT?!!!:eek:

[Harlekin]

Damn I just went through my best debates yet. Ch'od vs Lizard (Harlekin), I gotta admit Harlekin even had me going, till I read my Starjammers issues.
:up: It's a good debate.

I gotta edit the Wiki on Ch'od but I'm afraid taht could get me disqualified for tampering with a bio. What do you say Phaed?
I don't see why you shouldn't be able too. You'd be adding factually correct info.

Since I saw the question brought up, I cannot remember who remembers the Secret Wars. I thought a few heroes, such as Reed Richards, The Thing (I figure, since he spent a year there), and Spider-Man, if memory serves me correctly did. But, I thought many of the people who went there had their memories of it erased. Can anyone remember?
I don't recall that happening. Secret Wars really messed with quite a few characters, and one over the other getting their memories erased would be selective, something I don't recall the Beyonder doing. Heck, even Colossus kept his memory of it, even though all that happened with him was a silly fling. That led to his break-up with Kitty.

[Ahura Mazda]

If we still have a contest on Dec. 22-29, you'll only have 1 match:

Thread 4: Hydroman (KYTRIGGER) vs. Whither (AHURA MAZDA).

If we do the above, then you have 3 matches on Dec. 30-Jan.5:

Thread 2: Doc Samson(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Cable-Telepath(HIPPY)

Thread 7: Empath(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Xi'an Chi Xan(WIEGEABO)

Thread 8: Valkyrie(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Modok(MIDNIGHT ICE)

If we take Dec.22-29 off, then you'll only miss the first match between Dec. 30-Jan.5.


I hope the decision will be to have at least one week off....

With regard the Whither vs Hydroman match, even with a write up I will probably lose given I cannot debate and that match would require quite a bit of debating.

[Ahura Mazda]

Phaed can you delay debating, I've had some stuff on this weekend so haven't been able to get a good debate going. If you could delay it twelve ish your time that would mean me and ahura might be able to get a last hour of debate in (we are seven and eight hours behind you respectively)... or at least give him some time to make sure he gets a last reply in...
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I appreciate it and I posted my last reply. I do not tzhink we can take it any further given I have summarised it as best as I can.

Your scanned images are a definite bonus for you :up:

[Ahura Mazda]

Since I saw the question brought up, I cannot remember who remembers the Secret Wars. I thought a few heroes, such as Reed Richards, The Thing (I figure, since he spent a year there), and Spider-Man, if memory serves me correctly did. But, I thought many of the people who went there had their memories of it erased. Can anyone remember?


I think they all had their m,emories wiped clean of the event but people like the molecule man were able to remember. When Beyonder came to Earth in part II, they did not remember him.

[Ahura Mazda]

If it makes things easier for you, AM, you could always just forfeit the Empath fight.


Thank you that is so kind of you but given the guilty feelings of Xian I do not think I will ;)

[hippy fascist]

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I appreciate it and I posted my last reply. I do not tzhink we can take it any further given I have summarised it as best as I can.

Your scanned images are a definite bonus for you :up:

i PUT ONE LAST POST IN AS A SUMMARY OF MY ARGUMENT (HOPEFULLY THIS APPROACH WILL EVEN THINGS OUT WITH CASSUAL VOTERS WHO JUST SKIM. fEEL FREE TO REBUTT OR WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT IF YOU WANT?

[Ahura Mazda]

i PUT ONE LAST POST IN AS A SUMMARY OF MY ARGUMENT (HOPEFULLY THIS APPROACH WILL EVEN THINGS OUT WITH CASSUAL VOTERS WHO JUST SKIM. fEEL FREE TO REBUTT OR WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT IF YOU WANT?


I saw it and I added one last post which summarises everything in one sentence with no bias either way.

[hippy fascist]

I saw it and I added one last post which summarises everything in one sentence with no bias either way.

AWESOMENESS!

[JewishHobbit]

Okay... just got around to reading the Typhoid soft porn idea. Good lord. I put up a rebuttal, but I'm done. Start the voting!

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, I will end debating around 12:00 PST. So, you guys have about 3 hours left to say whatcha gotta say. (And, remember, voting will last until 12:00 PST Thursday, as I promised last week.)

Also, Wiki does have some inaccuracies, (but, I also notice many of their articles are just stolen text from other websites). Remember, the best source for all materials would be the Official Handbooks put out by Marvel. (Also, for the older characters, I've found the 4 handbooks put in Essential format very valuable. That's where I got my Frankie Raye information that really illuminated how powerful she is. Those are only 16.99 a piece, or much, much cheaper from Amazon.com.)

I'm not sure how I feel about changing Wiki during debating time. For now, I'd prefer you just to advise the voters, because it's a fine line about editting material to suit your character.

Another issue I want to address is editing of previous material that a participant has written. (Please feel free to give input on this topic.) Sometimes editting is essential to take care of any problems or inaccuracies. Two instances where I've done that are as follows: 1) This week the wrong character for "Breakdown" was used. Hellstormer and I went back, editted the new information into our previous posts, and started over. Plus, I informed him that I was doing this. 2) In the Dead Girl/Mercury match, we debated for a long time about whether X-Statix was in Marvel continuity and how much of Mercury's appearances could be used. Even though we disagreed, we came to a decision, and instead of having the voters read a bunch of arguments that would not pertain to the battle, I editted away much of the constant arguments. Again, I informed my opponent. What I don't want is editting of information that doesn't allow the readers to see the train of thought that got followed in your arguments. For example, with the Dead Girl/Mercury match, JH editted one of his previous posts with a final portion of his debate. He came up with an idea at the last minute, put it into a previous post (which I didn't find out until voting had started) and highlighted it; but, he did inform the readers that this is a last minute post, but just wanted to make sure they got a chance to read it.

Again, like I said, I want the debates to show each opponents train of thought. Plus, before I tackled this issue, I wanted time to pass between my match and the topic. So, I'm thinking of various rules to go along this line, and wanted everyone's input. 1) any editting should be noted to your opponent; 2) editting shouldn't be done if you come across an idea against your opponent later in the week to be reflected in a post earlier in the week. Our debates should have a flow, and to break in with edits would disrupt the flow of reading.

BTW, this isn't an attack on JH. He was within the rules to do that...we just hadn't talked about it, and I didn't want to make the point in regards to my match. I was going to tell Hellstormer to make a note in his first debate about the new information he found that goes against wiki...but, it wouldn't show the voters how he went about finding that information, and it would also make people wonder why they are reading the stuff about Lizard that might be now considered inaccurate.

So, feel free to voice your thoughts.

[Ahura Mazda]

I actually to be honest do a general google search and look at all the information plus I do have a growing comic collection which I use.

I realise that Wiki is sometimes inaccurate but I question other sites as well. Such as sites which refer to Hulk as 7' which he has not been for over 20 years.

I honestly think that common sense is needed and a sense of honor, that people will not falsely portray their character.

By the way, phaedrus, which debate were you referring to?

[Phaedrus45]

I actually to be honest do a general google search and look at all the information plus I do have a growing comic collection which I use.

I realise that Wiki is sometimes inaccurate but I question other sites as well. Such as sites which refer to Hulk as 7' which he has not been for over 20 years.

I honestly think that common sense is needed and a sense of honor, that people will not falsely portray their character.

By the way, phaedrus, which debate were you referring to?

Well, to some extent, we all end up portraying our characters falsely at some point in this contest. I, also, look at many different websites with information, and a time or two I've come across information on my character that I hope my opponent doesn't find. (And, this has happened. I know how to defeat my character...but, if my opponent doesn't use it, I'm not going to bring it up.) Plus, we tend to try and make our characters sometimes more powerful than they really are. We see the have the potential to do something, even though we know they have never done it. (In fact, one debate currently going on has this scenario. The character might be able to do something, but it's never been shown....or, it seems to go against character.) Also, many times scans of pictures are one sided, not giving the reader the full picture of what happened. All perfectly legal; and, it's up to the opponent to dispute it or discover the inaccuracies. (And, even if you do find them, it's not guarantee they'll believe you.)

Anyway, I was referring to Hellstormer, actually, on Ch'od vs. Lizard. I just got the name wrong....sorry.

[Ahura Mazda]

Well, to some extent, we all end up portraying our characters falsely at some point in this contest. I, also, look at many different websites with information, and a time or two I've come across information on my character that I hope my opponent doesn't find. (And, this has happened. I know how to defeat my character...but, if my opponent doesn't use it, I'm not going to bring it up.) Plus, we tend to try and make our characters sometimes more powerful than they really are. We see the have the potential to do something, even though we know they have never done it. (In fact, one debate currently going on has this scenario. The character might be able to do something, but it's never been shown....or, it seems to go against character.) Also, many times scans of pictures are one sided, not giving the reader the full picture of what happened. All perfectly legal; and, it's up to the opponent to dispute it or discover the inaccuracies. (And, even if you do find them, it's not guarantee they'll believe you.)

Anyway, I was referring to Hellstormer, actually, on Ch'od vs. Lizard. I just got the name wrong....sorry.


I understand what you say and the scanned images are an example on how to portray one aspect while ignoring others. I have seen the full comic of some of those scanned images and they sometimes are misleading when you see the full picture.

In any case, withholding information is one thing but an outright lie should be illegal.

I am off now and will be traveling most of the day so I will see you or to be more accurate your posts tomorrow night.

[hippy fascist]

I understand what you say and the scanned images are an example on how to portray one aspect while ignoring others. I have seen the full comic of some of those scanned images and they sometimes are misleading when you see the full picture.

In any case, withholding information is one thing but an outright lie should be illegal.

I am off now and will be traveling most of the day so I will see you or to be more accurate your posts tomorrow night.

agreed, some people voting might not be that familiar with a character and be swayed by a lie. If someone knows something to be untrue beyond all reasonable doubt they should be able to call them on it or have the point removed from their argument

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

[Phaedrus45]

JH and I have talked, and we'll be taking a one week break from competition between Dec. 22-29. This way, everyone can enjoy their holiday and not have to worry about getting a debate out on Christmas Day.

[Hellstormer]

Thank the Lord!:D

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, just a point to bring out. In voting, it's no problem saying why you think a person's characters will win....but, since most of us have had our chances to have our say, I would like to see people who own characters to keep their debating points out of their voting process. It comes close to trying to have the last word, and it's not fair to try to sway voters onto your side. (The only time I really allowed this was with DarkHellRider, who didn't get up a debate one week, and I told him to mention in a sentence or two why he voted for his character.)

[JewishHobbit]

agreed, some people voting might not be that familiar with a character and be swayed by a lie. If someone knows something to be untrue beyond all reasonable doubt they should be able to call them on it or have the point removed from their argument

This has always been something I watch for. If you recall, there is a rule that states that a person cannot interfere with another person's match unless he feels false information is given. He or she can then correct the mistake. This is why when I debate, if I'm not sure on something, I always mention that i'm either not sure, could be mistaken, or simply know little about the character. I want people to know that I'm using my best estimate, but could be wrong... and I want people to correct me if I am wrong.

However, if a player lies too often, and it becomes blatantly obvious that they're doing it on purpose... well, let's just say it will be dealt with HARSHLY. As I keep saying, this is a gentlemen's game and it is to remain so. I do not accept blatant cheating. I hold chronic lying in the same regard as creating new accounts for voting and such. It will be watched closely and there WILL be consequences. Cheating is cheating and it will not be tolerated.

[Phaedrus45]

Just letting you guys know we have a windstorm where I live. (Crazy couple of months. We had our snowstorm, rainstorm, and now windstorm.) Lights have been flickering, and some areas are without power already. If you have trouble getting ahold of me, or I'm not responding, you'll know why.

[Darthphere]

You know another thing. Its going to seem like im ranting or catching feelings, but if youre going to vote for a character, just because you like that character better, and has nothing to do with the debates, please keep that info to yourself.

[Phaedrus45]

Yeah, that pisses me off, too. If there is a legitimate reason, let me know. But, if it's because you like or hate someone, keep it to yourself. It just builds resentment that a voter might not be able to be unbiased towards your character.

[JewishHobbit]

6) Voting - One matter will change about voting this season. Still, once you make your decision, it will be final. But, if you vote and realize you mistakingly voted for the wrong character, I think it should be allowed for that person to change their vote. Since debating will officially end when voting begins, the chance someone can be swayed differently is greatly reduced, and I think it's fair to say we'll trust our voters to be honest when they say they made a mistake. Again, all votes must be based on reading all debates and coming to your own conclusion with all the information given. Please, do not vote for a character solely because you like them or don't like them. Also, make the same consideration for the participants in the contest.

No bias voting is an official rule last I checked. People need to remember that before we have to dicipline for breaking it. If bias voting becomes obvious (and we've let it go for some time, but I'm more than willing to start cracking down on it if it gets too bad) then be prepared to give me a really good reason for it. I've voted oddly in the past, but anytime anyone's questioned me about it, I gave a good reason for my vote... and it's never been biased. I expect the same from the rest of you.

And Phaed... don't loose your roof in the wind over there :)

[Phaedrus45]

After JH's votes, we currently have 4 ties:

Madison Jeffries vs. Delilah
Moses Magnum vs. Man-Beast
Typhoid Mary vs. Lifeguard
Paibok the Power Skrull vs. Jolt

Plus, at 5-4, we have the Shriek vs. Vermin match. (Zoken's only voted in the one thread so far.)

On top of that, we have two more close matches at 5-3:

Maverick vs. Jocasta
Tana Nile vs. Breakdown

[JewishHobbit]

Heck of a week. Vote Lifeguard ;)

[hippy fascist]

calling all heterosexual males! VOTE FOR MARY! :woot:

[Phaedrus45]

Yah! Power's back on .... for a while, at least.

[Iceman]

I'm reading the debates right now so please don't end voting just yet.

[Iceman]

Before I cast my vote in thread 1 I need an official clarification.

I don't understand the mind control = incapacitaion rule. You could argue that the controller is also incapacitated as they can't leave the field of battle. Using wrestling to illustrate my point (:csad:) if you have someone in a wrestling hold that they have no way of escaping from from but it doesn't hurt and they don't submit, you haven't yet won the match. You have to find a way to finish the match or release the hold. So anyone who is being mind controlled still needs to be finished off in some way or kept incapacitated in a way that can release the controller.

Sorry to raise a query at such a late stage but it would affect my voting in future rounds as well.

[JewishHobbit]

I don't quite remember how it was used in the debate, but if memory serves me the idea was that if you take over someone's mind and they can no longer react or defend themsevles, or do anything at all, then they are incapacitated, and therefor, lose. It's up to the voters to decide if that is a good way to declair a win or not. Personally, I like to see someone actually unconscious to declare a win... but that's up to the individual voter.

[Iceman]

I don't quite remember how it was used in the debate, but if memory serves me the idea was that if you take over someone's mind and they can no longer react or defend themsevles, or do anything at all, then they are incapacitated, and therefor, lose. It's up to the voters to decide if that is a good way to declair a win or not. Personally, I like to see someone actually unconscious to declare a win... but that's up to the individual voter.Thanks, I just needed it confirmed that it was down to interpretation rather than an official rule. :up:

[Phaedrus45]

3 1/2 hours left to vote!!!

Also, Zoken has only voted in two threads. For his votes to count, he'll need to vote in the other threads, too. I'll PM him to see if he forgot.

[Phaedrus45]

Thanks Zoken. :yay:

[Phaedrus45]

There are still two matches that are too close to call.

Paibok vs. Jolt is currently tied and there is only a one vote difference in the Beta Ray Bill vs. Count Nefaria match.

[Phaedrus45]

I think there are just two people who usually vote who haven't:

Midnight Ice and Darren

Of course, we haven't heard much from Trigger lately. You need to have a good percentage of the time devoted to your characters and voting to win (or lose). JH and I talked about it; and, we determined about 80%. As Powderman and Trigger are on the bottom of the list, Trigger is close to being unable to win the Round 1 prize for worst record.

[Phaedrus45]

There is about one hour left to vote.

Also, we are suppose to have 60-90 mph winds here in Washington tonight. (Maybe you guys will see it on tv tonight. The Seahawks are playing the 49ers tonight.) Since I don't know what tonight and tomorrow will bring, I'll try to post the next batch a matches before I leave work today.

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Is Over!!!

[hippy fascist]

I just got both future imperfect books off e-bay for $7. Both mint condition! :yay:

I love the raised image on each of the covers, it's a nice touch. The only problem is that these books are like ten years old and they have flat spines rather than a stapled fold like you normally get with comics. i'm terrified of opening them for fear of tainting their perfection :(

[Phaedrus45]

The following people have new matches starting tomorrow:

Phaedrus45 = 5
Powderman = 4
Midnight Ice, Harlekin, JewishHobbit = 3
Zoken, Kytrigger, DarkHellRider, Iceman/Psylocke = 2
Hippy Fascist, Darthphere, Trigger, Ahura, Wiegeabo, Hellstormer = 1
Wolverine25th = 0


Total wins for Round 1:

Phaedrus45, Jewishhobbit = 14
Hippy Fascist, Kytrigger, Darthphere = 13
Harlekin, Ahura Mazda = 11
Wiegeabo = 10
Hellstormer = 9
Iceman/Psylocke, Wolverine25th = 7
Midnight Ice, Zoken = 6
DarkHellRider = 5
Trigger = 3
Powderman = 2


Total losses for Round 1:

Trigger = 18
Zoken = 15
Harlekin, Hellstormer = 11
Powderman = 10
Ahura Mazda, Midnight Ice, DarkHellRider = 9
Wolverine25th, Darthphere, Hippy Fascist = 8
Iceman/Psylocke, Wiegeabo = 7
Kytrigger, JewishHobbit = 6
Phaedrus45 = 2

The following characters advance to Round 2:

Bracket 1: Tana Nile(PHAEDRUS45) vs. Madison Jeffries(MIDNIGHT ICE)
Bracket 2: Frankie Raye(PHAEDRUS45) vs. Doorman (ZOKEN)
Bracket 3: Beta Ray Bill(HIPPY FASCIST) vs. Moses Magnum(DARTHPHERE)
Bracket 4: Maverick(HELLSTORMER) vs. Lifeguard(JEWISHHOBBIT)
Bracket 5: Shriek(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Hercules(KYTRIGGER)
Bracket 6: New Sun(WIEGEABO) vs. Spitfire(DARTHPHERE)
Bracket 7: Mondo-AoA(JEWISHHOBBIT) vs. Thor(HARLEKIN)
Bracket 8: Ch'od(HELLSTORMER) vs. Paibok the Power Skrull(WOLVERINE25TH)

[hippy fascist]

Percentage victories so far


1.Phaedrus45= 87.5
2.Jewishhobbit = 70
3.Kytrigger = 68.4
4.Hippy Fascist = 61.9
5.Darthphere = 61.9
6.Wiegeabo = 58.8
7.Ahura Mazda = 55
8=Harlekin = 50
8=Iceman/Psylocke = 50
10.Wolverine25th = 46.7
11.Hellstormer = 45
12.Midnight Ice = 40
13.DarkHellRider = 35.7
14.Zoken = 28.6
15.Powderman = 16.7
16.Trigger = 14.3

[Hellstormer]

The following people have new matches starting tomorrow:

Phaedrus45 = 5
Powderman = 4
Midnight Ice, Harlekin, JewishHobbit = 3
Zoken, Kytrigger, DarkHellRider, Iceman/Psylocke = 2
Hippy Fascist, Darthphere, Trigger, Ahura, Wiegeabo, Hellstormer = 1
Wolverine25th = 0


Total wins for Round 1:

Phaedrus45, Jewishhobbit = 14
Hippy Fascist, Kytrigger, Darthphere = 13
Harlekin, Ahura Mazda = 11
Wiegeabo = 10
Hellstormer = 9
Iceman/Psylocke, Wolverine25th = 7
Midnight Ice, Zoken = 6
DarkHellRider = 5
Trigger = 3
Powderman = 2


Total losses for Round 1:

Trigger = 18
Zoken = 15
Harlekin, Hellstormer = 11
Powderman = 10
Ahura Mazda, Midnight Ice, DarkHellRider = 9
Wolverine25th, Darthphere, Hippy Fascist = 8
Iceman/Psylocke, Wiegeabo = 7
Kytrigger, JewishHobbit = 6
Phaedrus45 = 2

The following characters advance to Round 2:

Bracket 1: Tana Nile(PHAEDRUS45) vs. Madison Jeffries(MIDNIGHT ICE)
Bracket 2: Frankie Raye(PHAEDRUS45) vs. Doorman (ZOKEN)
Bracket 3: Beta Ray Bill(HIPPY FASCIST) vs. Moses Magnum(DARTHPHERE)
Bracket 4: Maverick(HELLSTORMER) vs. Lifeguard(JEWISHHOBBIT)
Bracket 5: Shriek(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Hercules(KYTRIGGER)
Bracket 6: New Sun(WIEGEABO) vs. Spitfire(DARTHPHERE)
Bracket 7: Mondo-AoA(JEWISHHOBBIT) vs. Thor(HARLEKIN)
Bracket 8: Ch'od(HELLSTORMER) vs. Paibok the Power Skrull(WOLVERINE25TH)
Hmmmmm can I switch Ch'od and Maverick? :D

[Darthphere]

Percentage victories so far


1.Phaedrus45= 87.5
2.Jewishhobbit = 70
3.Kytrigger = 68.4
4.Hippy Fascist = 61.9
5.Darthphere = 61.9
6.Wiegeabo = 58.8
7.Ahura Mazda = 55
8=Harlekin = 50
8=Iceman/Psylocke = 50
10.Wolverine25th = 46.7
11.Hellstormer = 45
12.Midnight Ice = 40
13.DarkHellRider = 35.7
14.Zoken = 28.6
15.Powderman = 16.7
16.Trigger = 14.3


YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Top 5!


It couldnt have been scripted better, Hippy and I tied.

[Harlekin]

Wow, a perfect 50. That's pretty cool.

Oh yeah, Phaed, you still do awesome work, but you forgot a ) in the link to Foundry's biography.

[JewishHobbit]

Check that out... a jump from fourth to second place in one round! Go me! I still have quite a ways to get to Phaed... but I'll get there!


Also... I used to have the Future Imperfect trade and loved it... then my daughter ate about 1/4 of it when I wasn't looking. Then I threw it away. I want it back :(

[JewishHobbit]

Oops... there's two foundries apparently. This (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/found1.htm) is the one that we were using, from the Midnight Sons line.

[hippy fascist]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Top 5!


It couldnt have been scripted better, Hippy and I tied.

no we didn't, look again! I came forth and you came fifth :p

[Harlekin]

Oops... there's two foundries apparently. This (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/found1.htm) is the one that we were using, from the Midnight Sons line.
Ah, that's cool too. Loved the irony factor of Foundry having eye blasts though and having to face Cycke.

[Darthphere]

no we didn't, look again! I came forth and you came fifth :p


Thas because youre a sore loser.

[Phaedrus45]

LOCATION: Latveria/Castle Doom

In the Marvel Comics fictional universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_universe), Doctor Doom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Doom) makes his home in Castle Doom, a high 110 room castle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle) built in the 16th century (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_century) by the Latverian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latveria) nobleman Count Sabbat. It first appeared in Fantastic Four no.5.
The castle overlooks the Latverian capital of Doomstadt (formerly Hassenstadt). Doom has lived in the castle since usurping the throne from King Vladimir, save for the brief periods when the throne was usurped from him by Prince Zorba or Doom's own "heir," Kristoff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristoff_Vernard). Doom destroyed the castle to quell a rebellion lead by he exiled Prince Rudolpho. The rebuilt castle's general out structure remained the same, but current technology was integrated into the castle's structure in accordance to Doom's specifications.
The exterior walls of Castle Doom are constructed of reinforced stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonry), and the tower roofs are also reinforced. Moments after an attack is detected, force screens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_field_%28science_fiction%29) spring up around the exterior walls. Interior walls are also made of stone and reinforced, and all interior doors are made of wood reinforced with steel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel). Doom's above-ground laboratories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratories) are supplemented with energy screens that can reflect attacks back onto its point of origin.
Guards are posted along the exterior walls at all times. Standard shifts include six Doom-Knights on the higher towers, six Warrior Robots patrolling the lower parapets, four human Latverian Guardsmen watching the front gate and main entrance, and a minimum of three Guardian Robots patrolling the woods around the based of Castle Doom. Built into the castle are a number of deterrents, including stunners, shock fields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_shock) on the walls, doors and windows, and gas emitters that can fill a room with knock-out gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anesthesia) or an exceedingly lethal poison gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison). It Doom feels these measures are not extreme enough, he will employ excessive measures such as his Rainbow Missiles or Vortex Machines. The weakest defensive point of Castle Doom are the docks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dock_%28maritime%29) that open out to the Klyne River -- this entrance is only staffed by two human Latverian Guardsmen and four to six Warrior Robots.
Visual, audible and motion sensors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_sensor) honeycomb Castle Doom and Latveria. Only the fear in Doom's underlings slows his knowledge of all that goes on in his domain, as his minions are understandably hesitant to bring him bad news. Doom has built in triple-redundant protective devices around his surveillance and security systems, requiring an amazing degree of skill to neutralize the alarms or surveillance devices.
Castle Doom contains one basement and five sub-basements. The basement contains Doom's wine cellars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_cellar) and storage space for miscellaneous housewares. The first sub-basement is contorted with small winding passageways that lead only into various trapped rooms. Separated from these corridors is Doom's hangar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar), which can open to the castle's courtyard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtyard) or via a ramp leading out behind the castle. The second sub-basement holds Doom's primary research & development laboratories. This floor also contained numerous torture chambers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_chamber), which Doom equipped with various power-inhibiting devices when he converted them into superhuman detention cells. The Memory Transference Machine, which was used to turn Kristoff into a mental clone of Doom, is also located on this level. Prison cells nested in a tangled maze of corridors make up 30% of the third sub-basement. The remainder of this level is used for Doom's major projects, such as his Cosmic Energizer and his currently inert series of Doomsman androids. The highly advanced and extremely efficient nuclear reactor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reactor) which powers Castle Doom is located in the fourth sub-basement, as are more secret laboratories and workshops. The fifth sub-basement is equal parts worked stone and natural caverns. An offshoot of the Klyne River runs through this level, which feeds three backup hydroelectric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectric) generators. Doom's magical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_%28paranormal%29) summoning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summoning) room is also located on this level, as is a supplemental robot construction facility.
The Ground Floor contains the grand entry hall and a lavish reception hall with a raised throne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throne). Behind a large tapestry in the back of the throne room is a concealed door leading to a robing room and study. To the left of the entry hall is Doom's art gallery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_gallery), antiquated kitchens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen) and the chef (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef)'s quarters, and a staff lounge and staff dining area. To the right of the robing room are hallways leading to a robot repair/recharge area, a fully stocked armory, and guard bunks.
The 2nd floor contains the grand ballroom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballroom), the official throne room (a high-ceilinged chamber where Doom holds his more diplomatic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic) meetings), a formal dining room, servant's quarters, expensively furnished guest rooms, a music room (housing Doom's Hyper-Sound Piano), the castle museum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum) (featuring the Latverian crown jewels and various mementos of Doom's conquests), the archives/royal historian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian)'s office, the communications center, robot construction workshops, offices for various staff, and a balcony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcony) from which to address the public. Guard bunks and guard posts are scattered throughout this floor.
The 3rd floor holds several secondary R&D laboratories, scientist's quarters, a medical infirmary, the hangar, a surveillance center (focused on the national/domestic level), and robot construction workshops. Guard posts, mostly manned by robotic guards, are scattered throughout this level.
The 4th Floor holds several tertiary R&D laboratories, including a holography & laser lab, a chemical lab, and a genetics lab. A surveillance center, focused on international events, is also located on this level.
Floors 5-10 are located in Castle Doom's massive central tower. The 5th floor houses a game room, and the 6th floor holds Doom's living quarters. The 7th floor holds Doom's private scientific laboratories, and Doom's private magical laboratory & workshop are located on the 8th floor. The 9th and 10th floor holds Doom's private 2-story library (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library).
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doom)"

(ALL BATTLES MUST STAY IN CASTLE DOOM. Of course, Doom won't be present, but anything (or anyone) who would normally be there in the Master's absense will be, including Doombots. But, take note, Doombots will not attack the participants, unless your character would be able to do something with them to help in his/her match.)

[Phaedrus45]

Debating May Begin!!!

Also, I changed Foundry around, but am unable to get a photo of him on this computer. If someone is able to paste on to this thread, I'll put it in the appropriate place.

[Hellstormer]

Human Torhc vs. Gravity will be interesting. It'll probaly come down to expirience.

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, everyone can start early if they choose. It's pouring rain here, and I was just hoping power stays on until I could finish. I was imagining being near the end and the lights going out before I could post what I was doing.

I'm pretty sure my loss column will raise next week. I've been pretty lucky, but most of my five matches will be quite the battle. I think I'll be very happy that the next week will be a week off.

(Plus, you gotta watch what you say. Hippy said last week he couldn't get out of second place....)

[JewishHobbit]

This is true. In that case.... Phaed will never get out of first place ;)

[JewishHobbit]

Oops... another one. THIS (http://www.mutanthigh.com/harvest.html) is the Harvest that we have in the tourney... from the Phalanx Covenant.

[Phaedrus45]

Harvest is changed. If you are able to paste the picture in this thread, I'd appreciate it.

[JewishHobbit]

http://www.mutanthigh.com/harvest.jpg

Can you use it if I take it right from mutanthigh, or should I save it on my photobucket?

And Foundry also...

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/found11.gif

[Phaedrus45]

Dang, I can't copy and paste in edit mode. I'll make changes at home with those pictures later, if I have lights.

Thanks, JH

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, I get to go home in 15 minutes. Most of this town I work in is without power, and I guess it's crazy on the roads. I just heard that my son's school is already cancelled for tomorrow. Like I said, watch the football game tonight if you can, and you should have some nice visuals, hopefully.

I got four of my five debates out. Just one more to go, but Powderman is my opponent; so, I don't have to worry about him being upset if I don't get it up right away.

See you guys later,

Phaed

[Hellstormer]

Be careful out there we need u here.

[hippy fascist]

and remember, women and children first! If they get taken out by whirling debris then you know it's not safe to leave the house :cwink:

[Harlekin]

Good luck Phaed with the whole storm thing.

[Iceman]

What happened to Hippy? Did he lose a load of matches this week?Ok, I get to go home in 15 minutes. Most of this town I work in is without power, and I guess it's crazy on the roads. I just heard that my son's school is already cancelled for tomorrow. Like I said, watch the football game tonight if you can, and you should have some nice visuals, hopefully.

I got four of my five debates out. Just one more to go, but Powderman is my opponent; so, I don't have to worry about him being upset if I don't get it up right away.

See you guys later,

PhaedHope it's not too bad.

[Ahura Mazda]

Percentage victories so far


1.Phaedrus45= 87.5
2.Jewishhobbit = 70
3.Kytrigger = 68.4
4.Hippy Fascist = 61.9
5.Darthphere = 61.9
6.Wiegeabo = 58.8
7.Ahura Mazda = 55
8=Harlekin = 50
8=Iceman/Psylocke = 50
10.Wolverine25th = 46.7
11.Hellstormer = 45
12.Midnight Ice = 40
13.DarkHellRider = 35.7
14.Zoken = 28.6
15.Powderman = 16.7
16.Trigger = 14.3


Wow that was abad week and I lost one of my most powerful characters....Nefaria, how the hell did he get pitted against BRB so early in the contest :(

[Hellstormer]

Least you're higher then me I have the worst loss record. But it all comes down to who you have left.;)

[Phaedrus45]

POWERS BACK!!!

at least here at home. Last night, right before the 49ers took the lead, the power went out. I got everything ready at home, went out to the car to check on the game, and in those few minutes I was away, the game spiraled out of control.

It was a cold night, and then my daughter and I went to work, where it was without power all day, too. In fact, the entire city was without power most of the day.

Luckily, house lights came on around 1:00 pm here. We live less than a mile from a nursing home; so, our power is priority, thank God.

Now, I'm going to watch Surviror from last night on Intertube. Hope you all had a better day than me. This week is the week to finish purchasing Christmas Gifts, too.

[Zoken]

um... I guess I should ask for absolution from Phaed and Weig... I kinda went on a rant on Ahura in our Tasky Vs. Pluto fight.

[Ahura Mazda]

I was about to write in here that I am willing to leave this contest if people wish due to something somebody said.

Now I just have seen the post above so Zoken, if you are willing to apologise to me, I do not see why we would need to involve anyone else.

By the way, my post in the debate thread was written before I read this one.

[Zoken]

I'm not going to apologize to you. I was apologizing to them because I took up space in that thread having to explain to you that you are annoying me. now quit being a drama queen and understand that I just want you to ease up a bit, especially in a match like that one where it is clear that you win.

[Ahura Mazda]

I'm not going to apologize to you. I was apologizing to them because I took up space in that thread having to explain to you that you are annoying me. now quit being a drama queen and understand that I just want you to ease up a bit, especially in a match like that one where it is clear that you win.


All I would say is if you wanted to make personal attacks do it by PM and I think we can leave it at that.

Good luck witheverything

[hippy fascist]

All I would say is if you wanted to make personal attacks do it by PM and I think we can leave it at that.

Good luck witheverything

Exactly it was the same in the speed vs Jim Hammond match. You take it too personally and resort to insults rather than debating. He's not saying don't defend your character, just don't start attacking other posters because you disagree with them

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, I haven't read the debate yet; but, I'll touch on the subject.

It's real easy to take a debate and have it start to become personal. At times, you have to step back and take a breather. Even us experienced guys have it happen, as with me and JH during our heated Mercury vs. Dead Girl match. In that, we both agreed we needed a day away to collect our thoughts. After that, we were able to resume and have a good debate.

The important thing to try to do with every single debate you have is make sure you are attacking the character, not the participant. It's hard, but I check myself every rebuttal when I start to say stuff like, "Harlekin thinks" or "you say" statements. Keep it in terms of your characters, and it will go more smoothly. I'll give an example: "My opponent tries to make everyone believe that in some crazy ridiculous world that Mercury could actually beat Dead Girl, and his reasoning is completely stupid." That's a very personal attack. It would be better just to say why I don't think Mercury would be able to slaughter Dead Girl and keep out the words, like "my opponent" or "stupid."

It takes time, and feathers will be ruffled in this game. Later I'll look at the debate and try to see what everyone's talking about.

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, I'm looking at the match, and I'm going to give some examples of how to better phrase certain sentences. (I hope you guys don't mind me using your match as an example.)

So you claim that a Human will try and tire an Immortal Olympian God.....hmm seems unlikely at best to me.

Like I said, there is a "you" statement in this that attacks the participant more than the character. All that needs to be said is something like, "The ability to tire an Immortal Olympian God is really almost impossible. Pluto has fought _____ for days, and never tired."

Actually make it, he would lose 100/100. I have been pretty fair in my debates and I say when I think I am beaten. I am surprised you feel you can actually win this match.

Now, before anyone posts anything like this, I would ask for that contestant to step back, breath, and think things through. Everyone in the Marvel Universe has a chance of beating another character. Even if we put Beak up against Hyperion, he might come up with a plan, no matter how unlikely. And, everyone needs to feel that they can come up with something to beat another character. I think I speak for most of us when I say that I'd rather see an argument of how you could do something than just conceeding a match. Basically, this is a pure personal attack, and has nothing to do with the match. (I will say pretty much all of us at some point will do this. I did it in Season 1, and you really just have to re-read and make sure you don't fall into this trap.) Everything after this statement is fine, though. Just this one statement should have been taken out. The rest clearly refutes Zoken's claims in a nice way.


Then, I see we get the entire match going in a direction we really don't want it to go. It just takes the slightest thing to set someone off. (I could show more examples, but it's clear it's just turned into a pissing match at this point.)

I can see that even if you know your character can totally annihilate another character, you can never be sure how the votes will go. So, yes, you have to defend yourself constantly. But, the personal attacks should never happen, and in return, retaliating shouldn't go on either. If you guys have a problem, just PM JH or me. We'll respond and take care of the problem in the best manner possible. Heck, I PMed JH all last night coming up with how to best handle two matters concerning two of my characters this week.

Basically, it's a good time to step away from the match for a day. Zoken should feel free to come up with any new plans to beat Pluto ... and Ahura should definitely respond that he doesn't believe Tasky stands a snowball chance in hell in beating Pluto. But, that's as far as it should go.

Again, I'll point out that I almost fall into the same trap every week. There were moments I was attacking JH more than the character in initial write-ups to our previous match, and I'm sure he did or felt like doing the same to me. But, with mutual respect, we both realized that we are just passionate about the game and our characters, and it doesn't reflect on how we are as people. I say think the same thing about each other. (I know, it will be tough...especially with the statements already made. But, this is the Christmas season, and regardless of your beliefs, our ability to forgive is the greatest gift we can give.)

[Darren Daring]

Phaed's pretty righteous:up:

[Midnight Ice]

Hey Phaed, good leading!

And about our Harvest VS Kid Omega match, I hope you didn't think I was upset or anything about whether or not Kid Omega could use the X-Men's computers. It really doesn't matter to me either way, especially in this match where as I agree with you that the Phalanx is probably well known. (I am not saying Kid Omega would win though, lol):xmen:

[Ahura Mazda]

I will apologise for those statements but i never intended them to be anything personal.

I was using sarcasm to underly an argument which is something I often do. It is never meant as a PERSONAL attack.

And the 100/100 argument which was referring to the 99/100 is nothing but a discussion on how I feel that battle would go. I did not realise that was taken as a personal insult.

I am going to rant on for one second here and be a bit personal. I work in finance and currently, I am a fund manager. My fund manages approximately 2 billion in assets. I am used to negotiating deals over a 100 million. I am not saying this to make myself important, which I am not, I am stating this because if you guys take what I write in these forums as personal, I warn you to be very careful when and if you step into a negotiation involving large sums of money surrounded by lawyers. Negotiations can last for hours and voices will often get raised. It is never personal but it can feel like it at times. Just remember it is always a game, that is all a negotiation or debate is. Just a bit of advice, ignore it if you wish.

[Phaedrus45]

Hey Phaed, good leading!

And about our Harvest VS Kid Omega match, I hope you didn't think I was upset or anything about whether or not Kid Omega could use the X-Men's computers. It really doesn't matter to me either way, especially in this match where as I agree with you that the Phalanx is probably well known. (I am not saying Kid Omega would win though, lol):xmen:

Oh, no...it was no problem. Every once in a while, JH and I discuss the rules, and it was something that needed clarification. It really doesn't effect either of our arguments that much, I believe.

[Phaedrus45]

I will apologise for those statements but i never intended them to be anything personal.

I was using sarcasm to underly an argument which is something I often do. It is never meant as a PERSONAL attack.

And the 100/100 argument which was referring to the 99/100 is nothing but a discussion on how I feel that battle would go. I did not realise that was taken as a personal insult.

I am going to rant on for one second here and be a bit personal. I work in finance and currently, I am a fund manager. My fund manages approximately 2 billion in assets. I am used to negotiating deals over a 100 million. I am not saying this to make myself important, which I am not, I am stating this because if you guys take what I write in these forums as personal, I warn you to be very careful when and if you step into a negotiation involving large sums of money surrounded by lawyers. Negotiations can last for hours and voices will often get raised. It is never personal but it can feel like it at times. Just remember it is always a game, that is all a negotiation or debate is. Just a bit of advice, ignore it if you wish.

Well, like I said, the best way to keep it from being personal is just to review and make sure there aren't any "you" type statements. JH had a vision of the tournament when it began, and the most important rule that (I think) he feels is at the top of all rules is to keep everything civilized. I also understand how in certain work environments we develop a certain personality. I'll give an example too:

When I was a manager to various employees at a retail store, a very good manager taught me much of what he knew. He believed to get the most out of your employees and the people who would sell you product to sell in the store you had to be tough. Sometimes being hard on an employee, he believed, got the most out of them. Basically, I turned into a carbon copy of him. But, many of the employees resented me and didn't really enjoy my company. After him, I went to work for another manager. This one was much different, and I soon learned her approach. After that...another mananger who blended what both of them taught me. Finally, I came back to the original store when that first manager was forced to leave. The employees really didn't welcome me back in complete joy...but, I ended up making many friends when they realized how much I had changed. In fact, my best friend today was an employee I hired during my first run with the company. She loves to say how I was such a dic& before; and, now we spend quite a bit of time together.

Years later, I got divorced, started working for my brother, but needed another part-time job just to make the ends meet with an additional house payment and other things. (Lawyers are real expensive.) I worked for Mervyn's and a manager who I really enjoyed. It seemed that the big-wigs at Mervyn's main office didn't like her style of looking out for her employees; so, they kind of forced her to quit. (She told them if they wanted to cut all benefits for employees and make them part-time, they could tell them.) Another manager came in, and she didn't care a thing about employees, just the bottom line. I basically told her before I quit that the employees and customers make up your store, and that she was extremely hated. She was doing well for the company, but in the end, she's just as replacable as anyone else, and they really didn't care about her. (She did agree with me.)

To be successful in retail right now might demand for her type of management; but, at the cost of your soul, it's not worth it. The company asked me 5 times to be management for them. I refused each time. I let them know I'm not the person they want, because I'd put people before company. I never work for a company, I work for the betterment of a store, the people who work there, and the community around it.

So, in my roundabout way, what I'm saying is that even in your occupation, you make the choices in how you deal with customers and clients. Whether you earn minimum wage or the wages of Bill Gates, it's not about money, but who you are and how you present yourself. Some things are not for sale, and the way people perceive you is one of those things.

[hippy fascist]

Well, like I said, the best way to keep it from being personal is just to review and make sure there aren't any "you" type statements. JH had a vision of the tournament when it began, and the most important rule that (I think) he feels is at the top of all rules is to keep everything civilized. I also understand how in certain work environments we develop a certain personality. I'll give an example too:

When I was a manager to various employees at a retail store, a very good manager taught me much of what he knew. He believed to get the most out of your employees and the people who would sell you product to sell in the store you had to be tough. Sometimes being hard on an employee, he believed, got the most out of them. Basically, I turned into a carbon copy of him. But, many of the employees resented me and didn't really enjoy my company. After him, I went to work for another manager. This one was much different, and I soon learned her approach. After that...another mananger who blended what both of them taught me. Finally, I came back to the original store when that first manager was forced to leave. The employees really didn't welcome me back in complete joy...but, I ended up making many friends when they realized how much I had changed. In fact, my best friend today was an employee I hired during my first run with the company. She loves to say how I was such a dic& before; and, now we spend quite a bit of time together.

Years later, I got divorced, started working for my brother, but needed another part-time job just to make the ends meet with an additional house payment and other things. (Lawyers are real expensive.) I worked for Mervyn's and a manager who I really enjoyed. It seemed that the big-wigs at Mervyn's main office didn't like her style of looking out for her employees; so, they kind of forced her to quit. (She told them if they wanted to cut all benefits for employees and make them part-time, they could tell them.) Another manager came in, and she didn't care a thing about employees, just the bottom line. I basically told her before I quit that the employees and customers make up your store, and that she was extremely hated. She was doing well for the company, but in the end, she's just as replacable as anyone else, and they really didn't care about her. (She did agree with me.)

To be successful in retail right now might demand for her type of management; but, at the cost of your soul, it's not worth it. The company asked me 5 times to be management for them. I refused each time. I let them know I'm not the person they want, because I'd put people before company. I never work for a company, I work for the betterment of a store, the people who work there, and the community around it.

So, in my roundabout way, what I'm saying is that even in your occupation, you make the choices in how you deal with customers and clients. Whether you earn minimum wage or the wages of Bill Gates, it's not about money, but who you are and how you present yourself. Some things are not for sale, and the way people perceive you is one of those things.

I've never been management but I would say (based on the job I do) the best way to get someone to do something is to make them think it was their idea in the first place. Use suggestion. Yes you have to be tough sometimes but you have to show them the benefit in doing things a certain way. This way they see it as doing something to benefit themselves rather than simply following orders. If you can explain why something must be done most people will be reasonable about it :up:

And if they don't show them the door :cmad: ;)

[Phaedrus45]

I've never been management but I would say (based on the job I do) the best way to get someone to do something is to make them think it was their idea in the first place. Use suggestion. Yes you have to be tough sometimes but you have to show them the benefit in doing things a certain way. This way they see it as doing something to benefit themselves rather than simply following orders. If you can explain why something must be done most people will be reasonable about it :up:

And if they don't show them the door :cmad: ;)

Hmmm....next time we debate, I'll try that on you: Make you conceed defeat.

[JewishHobbit]

I just got home, and while I haven't had chance to read the Ahura/Zoken match (I typically read all debates at the end while I vote so it's all fresh in my mind) I do want to remind you guys, and everyone else, to remain gentlemanly. Phaed has done a wonderful job in all that he's said reguarding it, and he hit the nail right on the head when he mentioned the most important part of this tournament is the integrity of how it is played. My favorate quote here at the CoM is that "this is a gentleman's game" and that it will remain. Not only is this a game, it is a place where we can all come and unwind and just have fun. I like it here because I can meet people I never would have other places at the hype and make new friends. And overall, we can all just 'hang out' as if we were all buddies (except Darren Daring, he sucks)

That said, I commend Phaed for how he's handled this problem and if I see something that needs addressed as I read the debate, I'll talk with you guys about it. To Ahura and Zoken, I like you both. I think you both have been a great addition to the tournament this year and I not only want you both to stay with us, but to also have a blast while here. If either of you have any further problems, let me or Phaed know and we will take care of it. That's part of our job.

[Ahura Mazda]

Well, like I said, the best way to keep it from being personal is just to review and make sure there aren't any "you" type statements. JH had a vision of the tournament when it began, and the most important rule that (I think) he feels is at the top of all rules is to keep everything civilized. I also understand how in certain work environments we develop a certain personality. I'll give an example too:

When I was a manager to various employees at a retail store, a very good manager taught me much of what he knew. He believed to get the most out of your employees and the people who would sell you product to sell in the store you had to be tough. Sometimes being hard on an employee, he believed, got the most out of them. Basically, I turned into a carbon copy of him. But, many of the employees resented me and didn't really enjoy my company. After him, I went to work for another manager. This one was much different, and I soon learned her approach. After that...another mananger who blended what both of them taught me. Finally, I came back to the original store when that first manager was forced to leave. The employees really didn't welcome me back in complete joy...but, I ended up making many friends when they realized how much I had changed. In fact, my best friend today was an employee I hired during my first run with the company. She loves to say how I was such a dic& before; and, now we spend quite a bit of time together.

Years later, I got divorced, started working for my brother, but needed another part-time job just to make the ends meet with an additional house payment and other things. (Lawyers are real expensive.) I worked for Mervyn's and a manager who I really enjoyed. It seemed that the big-wigs at Mervyn's main office didn't like her style of looking out for her employees; so, they kind of forced her to quit. (She told them if they wanted to cut all benefits for employees and make them part-time, they could tell them.) Another manager came in, and she didn't care a thing about employees, just the bottom line. I basically told her before I quit that the employees and customers make up your store, and that she was extremely hated. She was doing well for the company, but in the end, she's just as replacable as anyone else, and they really didn't care about her. (She did agree with me.)

To be successful in retail right now might demand for her type of management; but, at the cost of your soul, it's not worth it. The company asked me 5 times to be management for them. I refused each time. I let them know I'm not the person they want, because I'd put people before company. I never work for a company, I work for the betterment of a store, the people who work there, and the community around it.

So, in my roundabout way, what I'm saying is that even in your occupation, you make the choices in how you deal with customers and clients. Whether you earn minimum wage or the wages of Bill Gates, it's not about money, but who you are and how you present yourself. Some things are not for sale, and the way people perceive you is one of those things.

That is very sound advice and in many ways a negotiation can be any conversation that occurs between 2 individuals to get to a desired result.

Money by the way is never a goal..it is just a way of keeping score in the game of finance. And on a side note, Bill Gates' wages are not that high.......it is the sale of his shares which actually accounts for his great wealth. He sold shares of Microsoft every day in 2000 just underneath the disclosure limit.

By the way I must agree as well with Hippy but managing people can be very difficult. Even if you do explain, if the money is not quite what they imaginned or you have them working weekends, people can get pretty annoyed :( And often there is no exact formula as everybodies' psychology can be different. Phaed based on how you handle yourself on these boards, there is a good chance you would have done well as a people manager. I think the product would have been secondary. But I can understand you not wanting to take that step.

Anyways after the career and debate intermission maybe we should get back to the basics:

comic book characters! :D

By the way it sucks that there is no debate for the Ares vs Ranark match :(

[JewishHobbit]

I've been a Receiving Manager and an Office Manager in the past, both retail... and I've been the type who cares more for the employee and customer than the company, and the companes didn't much care for that. My first boss made my life horrendous until I couldn't take it and quit (though respectfully giving a 2 month notice). The second job was the same, except though my district manager was on my butt, my immediate boss was just like me and understood. We actually made a really good team, but sadly, the job didn't pay enough for me to support my wife and two daughters and I had to leave it.

I've had enough of management for a while. Maybe I'll eventually become some type of manager at Home Depot, but not now. I'm counting on my wife making management before me, and she's close :)

[Phaedrus45]

Well, there will be a side for Ares. I really benefitted with his last miniseries. He finally got the respect he's due. (Now, you're probably wishing they'd do the same for Pluto. I could totally dig a Pluto vs. Ares comic!) Since I'm not in a rush, I'm probably saving it for Monday when I need something to do at work.

[hippy fascist]

and now, on a lighter note. I miss 80's cartoons, they were so innocent, so unassuming...so pure...

so what the hell happened here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1YsLt8XGQE

[Phaedrus45]

I miss Star Blazers. I have a few video tapes and a couple DVDs. One day I'll buy the 3 full sets on ebay, I guess; as, they aren't putting them out any longer.

[Darthphere]

I feel like buying Wonder Woman on DVD.

[Phaedrus45]

I've thought about the old Hulk series; but, from recollection, I don't think I'd enjoy them that much. I would probably like to get The Greatest American Hero complete set, though.

Also, I've never watched it, but after Thanksgiving, Target had Smallville seasons 1-3 for 14.99. I picked them up, but haven't watched them yet. I just keep hearing good things about that show.

[Zoken]

Give me Gargoyles or give me Death

[Ahura Mazda]

Well, there will be a side for Ares. I really benefitted with his last miniseries. He finally got the respect he's due. (Now, you're probably wishing they'd do the same for Pluto. I could totally dig a Pluto vs. Ares comic!) Since I'm not in a rush, I'm probably saving it for Monday when I need something to do at work.


I doubt a mini series for Pluto would ever happen as he is never likely to become a permanent resident of Earth and in Hades I doubt there would be much of a story line ;)

By the way, I don't quite get how they made him an evil character as in mythology he never was evil in the comic book sense. He certainly never envisaged dethroning Zeus.

[kytrigger]

I doubt a mini series for Pluto would ever happen as he is never likely to become a permanent resident of Earth and in Hades I doubt there would be much of a story line ;)

By the way, I don't quite get how they made him an evil character as in mythology he never was evil in the comic book sense. He certainly never envisaged dethroning Zeus.

Hades has always been misunderstood like that. He was never an evil god, but since he is similar to Lucifer in certain ways people have latched on to him being evil as well.

[hippy fascist]

I know he wouldn't be so rude as to demand that we all take part but harlekin has to do a survey for his college course and I think it'd be nice if we could all help him out by filling it in.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10771636&posted=1#post10771636

:up:

[Harlekin]

Ah, thanks dude. :D

[Hellstormer]

Give me Gargoyles or give me Death
I know what you mean. Season 2 Volume 2 is on hiatus :(

[Iceman]

ky & Hellstormer, I shall definitely get my debates up today (in case you were worried about me :woot: :csad: ) :up: (hopefully soon) :yay:

[wiegeabo]

I've thought about the old Hulk series; but, from recollection, I don't think I'd enjoy them that much. I would probably like to get The Greatest American Hero complete set, though.

Also, I've never watched it, but after Thanksgiving, Target had Smallville seasons 1-3 for 14.99. I picked them up, but haven't watched them yet. I just keep hearing good things about that show.


Greatest American Hero...

*wipes tear from eye*

Good times. Good times.

[Hellstormer]

ky & Hellstormer, I shall definitely get my debates up today (in case you were worried about me :woot: :csad: ) :up: (hopefully soon) :yay:
DOn't even worry about it ;)

[Iceman]

DOn't even worry about it ;)Thanks :up: :yay: :)























...No concession here though :woot:

[Phaedrus45]

Hey guys,

I need some help. If any one of you can get a copy of Magician Apprentice #3 (gotta be a first printing, not the second printing that comes out next week), I will either pay you or send you a nice collection of comics to make up for it. I cannot find this comic on milehigh or mycomicshop or ebay. I'm desperate.

[Phaedrus45]

Just a reminder, after voting is finished this week, we are having a bye-week. So, Dec. 22 - Dec. 28, nothing will be happening, besides any discussions we have in this thread. After that, for those interested in looking ahead, the following people have matches taking place betwen Dec. 29 - Jan. 4:

Wolverine25th, Wiegeabo = 4
Trigger, *Midnight Ice, DarkHellRider, Powderman = 3
Phaedrus45, Harlekin, Zoken = 2
Darthphere, Kytrigger, Ahura Mazda, Hippy Fascist, Hellstormer, JewishHobbit = 1
Iceman/Psylocke = 0

(A "*" by your name indicated two of your characters facing each other.)

If you think you won't be around for debating during the second part of the holiday, you can PM me your opening debate; and, when the matches get posted, I'll post your debate.

[JewishHobbit]

Has Powder had any characters advance thus far?

[Phaedrus45]

Has Powder had any characters advance thus far?

Annoying Silence/Powderman has had 2 characters advance so far. (Just don't ask me which ones.) If their characters got debated, I would venture a guess they would probably at least have around 7 character still in the contest. There have been a few with the right debate I could see advancing quite easily.

[Iceman]

I've just posted a recent debate so maybe ky and Hellstormer might want a bit more time than usual. (I won't be responding anymore).

See you later guys. :yay:

[JewishHobbit]

Annoying Silence/Powderman has had 2 characters advance so far. (Just don't ask me which ones.) If their characters got debated, I would venture a guess they would probably at least have around 7 character still in the contest. There have been a few with the right debate I could see advancing quite easily.

Just curious how many characters we're divying up after round 1 is over. How long has it been since Trigger's been around?

[JewishHobbit]

I have officially declaired myself nerdy. Why? Because I have officially made Wierd Al a friend of mine on myspace (yeah, not that means anything)... but anyhow... he is now on my friends list. And I left a message asking if he wanted to marry my now single mother so he can be my dad. I am nerdy... white... and nerdy!

[Ahura Mazda]

Hey, does anybody have a good link to a profile of Whither?

And can I use an aging power to cause the breakdown of molecular links between atoms?

[JewishHobbit]

Here's (http://www.mutanthigh.com/wither.html) a bio for Wither

I'm not sure on your question however. Just read up on Wither and use your best judgement. As long as it's within the confines of his powers and in character, anything's worth a shot.

[Ahura Mazda]

Ok well the first line of the bio eliminates that strategy.....hmmmm I will see if I can come up with anything remotely intelligent that cannot be refuted with ease but at the moment nothing comes to mind.

Do we know the location of the battle? Like a desert ;)

[Phaedrus45]

Ok well the first line of the bio eliminates that strategy.....hmmmm I will see if I can come up with anything remotely intelligent that cannot be refuted with ease but at the moment nothing comes to mind.

Do we know the location of the battle? Like a desert ;)

The next location (after our bye week) starting Dec. 29th, is:

Ego, the Living Planet:


Known Superhuman Powers: The living planet Ego has been called a "bioverse." Every part of its substance, including its atmosphere, is "alive" inasmuch as it is animated and controlled by the consciousness of Ego. The exact composition of Ego is unknown, but much of the planet's surface, at least, seems to be composed of organic molecules. The planet possesses various internal features which have analogues to parts of living Earth-based organisms. For example, its interior contains tunnels which have been compared to arteries, and the center of Ego's consciousness resides in a brain-like organ deep below its surface. Ego can absorb humanoid-sized living beings into itself and "digest" them in internal areas similar to an Earth beings stomach, using its own analogues to digestive fluids. Just as an Earth organism creates one-celled antibodies to attack foreign substances in its bloodstream, Ego creates humanoid sized anti-body like beings from itself to attack intruders on or beneath its surface. In its encounters with humanoids, Ego has caused the "antibodies" to take semi humanoid form.
Ego generates vast psionic energies which, at their peak, rival those of Galactus. If Ego depletes its energy below a level that it can replenish by itself, it can help renew its energy stories by tapping outside sources, like stars, or absorbing the life forces of large numbers of living beings. At full strength Ego can use its psionic energy to obliterate starships. Ego can also control its own substance psychically. Thus Ego can transform its own surface to resemble a gigantic face, to reach out into space with gigantic tendrils, or to become an idyllic world resembling the most beautiful areas of Earth. Ego can create humanoid beings with great powers out of its own surface and, it claims, command them across interstellar distances. Ego communicates with other beings telepathically.
Ego has used Its great psionic powers to command the immensely powerful sidereal propulsion unit installed at its south pole by Galactus. The unit can propel Ego in and out of hyperspace at vast speeds, and apparently has virtually inexhaustible power.
Limitations: For unknown reasons, Ego is apparently unable to remove the sidereal propulsion unit embedded in its south pole. Ego's control over its own atmosphere is apparently no match for the power that the thunder god Thor can wield over it using the mystical powers of his enchanted hammer.

(There are lots of websites devoted to Ego. For this battle, Ego will not get involved UNLESS you do something to him to cause him pain. For example, if my character, Terrax, was in this battle, he would have tried to use the planet as a source for fighting War Machine. The problem would have been that Terrax would then be fighting War Machine AND Ego. So, take this into consideration of your character's actions.)

[Phaedrus45]

Since we've had some late debates, debating will continue until 12:00 PST. That gives everyone about 3 1/2 hours left to say what they have to say.

[Phaedrus45]

Finally, we've had three new explanation of rules determined by JH and myself.

1) Editting of posts should be for certain situations where there is only a foul up. (For example, I've done this twice. Once was when we were debating the incorrect character, Breakdown. The second time was when a rule was debated, and after a ruling, we made necessary changes to our previous debates after we received clarification.) Voters need to read the whole battle as a train of thought, and to add something a participant thinks of later to a pervious post isn't fair. If you think that editting of a post is needed, you must inform your opponent of the change. If either of you have questions about whether the change should be allowed, PM either JH or me.

2) After voting began, I've been noticing an increase in people using their votes to make a final comment about their characters and why they should win. To me, this hasn't been a big problem all season; but, it rings too much of trying to get in the last word, and we know people look at opinions in voting. So, for clarification, if it's your character, you are allowed only to make a vote; additional comments of a sentence or two are for the other voters to make. (The only time I've allowed anything different is if someone never put up a debate. I did allow DarkHellRider to make a two sentence reason for why his character would win a match. If this happens, you must get contact JH or me via PM before you do it.)

3) Finally, I believe I already mentioned this; but, in case I didn't, I'm going to possibly repeat myself. To be eligible for prizes (whether it's best or worst record), you must definitely partipate more than you don't participate. JH and I have discussed this, and feel that 80% participation isn't too hard to achieve. People with good records generally always participate, as you'll notice; so, this more applies to those who might be in contention for "worst record" at the end of Round 1 and the end of Round 2. Of course, Powderman has let us know he's not interested in participating this season, so his "worst record" at the end of Round 1 won't garner him a prize. I believe Trigger has already excluded herself from that prize, too. (I know she's busy with schooling.) If Trigger wishes to continue and schooling becomes a bit easier, then she would be eligible for prizes starting with Round 2.

[Darthphere]

Shazam!

[Ahura Mazda]

Phadrus, I sent you my battle by PM .........*eventhough it sucks*

[Phaedrus45]

Phadrus, I sent you my battle by PM .........*eventhough it sucks*

Yep, I got it. Thanks, and I will post it next week on the 29th after battles get posted. BTW, when are you due back?

[Phaedrus45]

Little over a half hour left to debate. I'm going to lunch.

BTW, thanks to hippy for finding me a copy of Magician Apprentice #3.

[Phaedrus45]

edit...

[Phaedrus45]

Just so people know, I got a last minute request for a rebuttal. I'm going to allow it; but, I'm also giving Hippy enough time to respond. Voting will start in an hour.

[Ahura Mazda]

Yep, I got it. Thanks, and I will post it next week on the 29th after battles get posted. BTW, when are you due back?


I am back on the 2nd

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!!!

(Remember, you must read through all of this weeks debates before voting. The debates should be the largest percentage of reason for the way you vote; but, they do not have to be the sole reason for your decision.)

[kytrigger]

Hey Phaed, in case you want to change your posts, you forgot to remind everyone to read everything and then vote (I just thought of this when I saw that Iceman/Psylocke had the links to the tournament in his signature)

[Hellstormer]

How come everyone I face always waits a while to put up a debate then starts debating and then puts one up at like midnight so I can't make a rebuttal? I feel so ripped-off :(

[kytrigger]

How come everyone I face always waits a while to put up a debate then starts debating and then puts one up at like midnight so I can't make a rebuttal? I feel so ripped-off :(Well, Iceman Psylocke did the same thing to me this week, so I am sure it wasn't intentional to either of us. I/P was probably busy and just couldn't get the debates up sooner.

[Phaedrus45]

Hey Phaed, in case you want to change your posts, you forgot to remind everyone to read everything and then vote (I just thought of this when I saw that Iceman/Psylocke had the links to the tournament in his signature)

Thanks. I editted it, and just need to find a better way to say it in the future.

[hippy fascist]

can I make a suggestion?

I think we should keep this thread open even after the contest is done. It would be good to just have a thread to shoot the **** in even without the contest being on. It'd be the club for special people! :yay:

[Phaedrus45]

can I make a suggestion?

I think we should keep this thread open even after the contest is done. It would be good to just have a thread to shoot the **** in even without the contest being on. It'd be the club for special people! :yay:

We always have a discussion thread open...but, what will happen is that it will evolve into the "Contest of Marvels III Discussion thread," where we will go over which rules to adjust for the new season and which new characters and locations to include, and which we should eliminate. After that, it will become the "Official CoM II Discussion thread," where all the new recruits and old members will do exactly what we've done from day 1 of this thread.

Time to go home. Feel free to tally votes later, Hippy.

[Iceman]

edit

[Iceman]

How come everyone I face always waits a while to put up a debate then starts debating and then puts one up at like midnight so I can't make a rebuttal? I feel so ripped-off :(Well, Iceman Psylocke did the same thing to me this week, so I am sure it wasn't intentional to either of us. I/P was probably busy and just couldn't get the debates up sooner.

Sorry dudes. :csad:

Rather than just being busy I had a couple of personal issues and didn't really have the enthusiasm to debate much this week. Once I eventually read through Death's Head II's bio and ky's debate they became a great distraction from other issues so I really got into both of them and decided to go for it. On top of that the Dark Beast debate took me absolutely ages to write. It's certainly nothing personal against anyone or an intentional way of trying to steal an advantage. I came in here to let you know that I'd put up a late debate and I made a request for debating time to be extended in case you guys wanted it and I also said I wouldn't respond to any further rebuttals out of courtesy. So short of simply never debating after Monday evening (UK time) I'm not sure what else I can do, especially if I have a weekend with problems like the one I just had.

I'm also going to have much less time when I change jobs in the near future (I'm setting up a new company) so putting up debates at unpredictable times (sometimes last minute) is something I'll need to do if I want to continue in this competition. Already it does feel a bit of a burden at certain times to have to put up an opening debate as early as possible (nearly every week) and then to ensure any rebuttals are also posted very quickly. If you include the 2 hours of reading and thinking time during voting, this takes up a lot more of my time than I was anticipating before the competition began.

Making general posts on the Hype and debating in this competition aren't the same thing as there are no obligations involved with posting and you can take a break whenever you want. In my current job it's possible to get away with making quick posts on the Hype and keeping a browser window open most of the time but reading bios of comic characters and putting up long debates on which comic characters would win in a fight is something I have to be very careful about and it simply can't be done if anyone is looking over my shoulder. :(

I've tried to explain my situation above but that does not mean to take away from the fact that I am sorry that my lateness has prevented you from being able to debate your character fully. :csad:

To finish on a positive note I will say that while this competition did at first feel like a burden this weekend, once I started getting into the characters and debates, I was very grateful to have it as it made me feel a lot better.

[Phaedrus45]

Well, Iceman, you're usually really good at getting debates in at a good time, and you always let me know if you need a bit more time with voting. It's not a problem in my view, and you are staying within the rules.

[Iceman]

Thanks :yay:, although I don't want to upset other players so I'll do my best to get things up more quickly.

[hippy fascist]

Thanks :yay:, although I don't want to upset other players so I'll do my best to get things up more quickly.

To be honest, you're not the worst offender for this, you got your debates in the night before, some people (not naming names) wait till about an hour before the threads close which IS taking the piss. :cmad:

[Hellstormer]

It doesn't matter to me its just 1) I was pissed off yesterday 2) this happened to me twice before when I saw the person posting in other threads days before they made a midnight rebuttal and 3) I'm not able to respond cause I have school till 4 somtimes even 6 and I can't get a rebuttal up.:(

PS. I know it's a bit early but next season we need the Big Hero 6 in this tourney ;)

[hippy fascist]

It doesn't matter to me its just 1) I was pissed off yesterday 2) this happened to me twice before when I saw the person posting in other threads days before they made a midnight rebuttal and 3) I'm not able to respond cause I have school till 4 somtimes even 6 and I can't get a rebuttal up.:(

*cough* unnamed poster *cough* fans of reilly thread *cough*

[Phaedrus45]

For those interested, I just wanted you all to know that MileHigh is having a great deal right now. Just sign up for their mailing list, and you will get their discount codes. Currently, they have the discount at 50% off their already low prices. You can get comics as low as 90% off their regular price. Yesterday, I bought 278 comics...and, today, I wanted to get the Arak collection. 47 issues (3 I could find cheaper, I believe, on mycomicship, since mile high probably only had one copy) and the one annual for about 50 cents an issue.

Mile High only has this low of a price about twice a year. Scoop up those hard to find back issues now. It's amazing to think I can get at least 5 comics for the price I pay for one comic today at my comic shop.

[Iceman]

It doesn't matter to me its just 1) I was pissed off yesterday 2) this happened to me twice before when I saw the person posting in other threads days before they made a midnight rebuttal and 3) I'm not able to respond cause I have school till 4 somtimes even 6 and I can't get a rebuttal up.:(Cool :up: Good to know you're ok with it.

For those interested, I just wanted you all to know that MileHigh is having a great deal right now. Just sign up for their mailing list, and you will get their discount codes. Currently, they have the discount at 50% off their already low prices. You can get comics as low as 90% off their regular price. Yesterday, I bought 278 comics...and, today, I wanted to get the Arak collection. 47 issues (3 I could find cheaper, I believe, on mycomicship, since mile high probably only had one copy) and the one annual for about 50 cents an issue.

Mile High only has this low of a price about twice a year. Scoop up those hard to find back issues now. It's amazing to think I can get at least 5 comics for the price I pay for one comic today at my comic shop.278 in one go! :eek:

That's quite a lot to a normal person :woot:

I'll check out Mile High although I have hardly any space left for more comics. :(

[kytrigger]

Sorry dudes. :csad:

Rather than just being busy I had a couple of personal issues and didn't really have the enthusiasm to debate much this week. Once I eventually read through Death's Head II's bio and ky's debate they became a great distraction from other issues so I really got into both of them and decided to go for it. On top of that the Dark Beast debate took me absolutely ages to write. It's certainly nothing personal against anyone or an intentional way of trying to steal an advantage. I came in here to let you know that I'd put up a late debate and I made a request for debating time to be extended in case you guys wanted it and I also said I wouldn't respond to any further rebuttals out of courtesy. So short of simply never debating after Monday evening (UK time) I'm not sure what else I can do, especially if I have a weekend with problems like the one I just had.

I'm also going to have much less time when I change jobs in the near future (I'm setting up a new company) so putting up debates at unpredictable times (sometimes last minute) is something I'll need to do if I want to continue in this competition. Already it does feel a bit of a burden at certain times to have to put up an opening debate as early as possible (nearly every week) and then to ensure any rebuttals are also posted very quickly. If you include the 2 hours of reading and thinking time during voting, this takes up a lot more of my time than I was anticipating before the competition began.

Making general posts on the Hype and debating in this competition aren't the same thing as there are no obligations involved with posting and you can take a break whenever you want. In my current job it's possible to get away with making quick posts on the Hype and keeping a browser window open most of the time but reading bios of comic characters and putting up long debates on which comic characters would win in a fight is something I have to be very careful about and it simply can't be done if anyone is looking over my shoulder. :(

I've tried to explain my situation above but that does not mean to take away from the fact that I am sorry that my lateness has prevented you from being able to debate your character fully. :csad:

To finish on a positive note I will say that while this competition did at first feel like a burden this weekend, once I started getting into the characters and debates, I was very grateful to have it as it made me feel a lot better.

Oh, absolutely no problem at all. I wasn't in anyway upset or offended by it. I didn't mean to sound like I was either. I just let Hellstormer know that it wasn't just his match, but all your matches, which most likely meant that you had things of other importance, as oppossed to just forgetting/putting it up at the last minute on purpose.

Sorry if I came off as judgemental, but I definately did not intend to. I know that you always get your debates up as early as possible, and you enjoy getting as much out of rebuttals as anyone else. Also, thank you anyway for letting both me and Hellstoremer knwo that you were going to be putting up your dfebates a little alter than usual.

Also, I hope the new job you will be going to works out for the best. (and if it does, and it's publicly traded you got to let us know so we can buy some stock :woot: )

[kytrigger]

For those interested, I just wanted you all to know that MileHigh is having a great deal right now. Just sign up for their mailing list, and you will get their discount codes. Currently, they have the discount at 50% off their already low prices. You can get comics as low as 90% off their regular price. Yesterday, I bought 278 comics...and, today, I wanted to get the Arak collection. 47 issues (3 I could find cheaper, I believe, on mycomicship, since mile high probably only had one copy) and the one annual for about 50 cents an issue.

Mile High only has this low of a price about twice a year. Scoop up those hard to find back issues now. It's amazing to think I can get at least 5 comics for the price I pay for one comic today at my comic shop.

Is this just on comics, or does it include TPBs as well???

[Iceman]

Oh, absolutely no problem at all. I wasn't in anyway upset or offended by it. I didn't mean to sound like I was either. I just let Hellstormer know that it wasn't just his match, but all your matches, which most likely meant that you had things of other importance, as oppossed to just forgetting/putting it up at the last minute on purpose.

Sorry if I came off as judgemental, but I definately did not intend to. I know that you always get your debates up as early as possible, and you enjoy getting as much out of rebuttals as anyone else. Also, thank you anyway for letting both me and Hellstoremer knwo that you were going to be putting up your dfebates a little alter than usual.

Also, I hope the new job you will be going to works out for the best. (and if it does, and it's publicly traded you got to let us know so we can buy some stock :woot: )Thanks buddy :yay: and it was mainly for Hellstormer's benefit as he seemed a bit annoyed earlier (not anymore though). As for the company going public, that would be ideal. I'll have to save you a few share options if you continue debating so well :up: :cmad: :woot:

[Phaedrus45]

Is this just on comics, or does it include TPBs as well???

It just says back issues.

[Ahura Mazda]

So I was reading a few old Hulk comic books (from the late 70s and 80s) and I am amazed at how much he has changed.

Before he really was portrayed at 7' whereas now he is in the 9' range. Plus he is so inconsistant with what he does.....I must say it was realtively intriguing.

[hippy fascist]

So I was reading a few old Hulk comic books (from the late 70s and 80s) and I am amazed at how much he has changed.

Before he really was portrayed at 7' whereas now he is in the 9' range. Plus he is so inconsistant with what he does.....I must say it was realtively intriguing.
I don't know, to me it does kind of makes sense.

Think about it, wolverine has had so many power upgrades over the years that he is now essentially immortal. Hulks powers are essentially strength, size and his healing factor. Since characters powers tend to develop over time it makes sense that hulks powers would grow. Hence the size increase :up:

other than that...I got nothing :o

[Ahura Mazda]

I don't know, to me it does kind of makes sense.

Think about it, wolverine has had so many power upgrades over the years that he is now essentially immortal. Hulks powers are essentially strength, size and his healing factor. Since characters powers tend to develop over time it makes sense that hulks powers would grow. Hence the size increase :up:

other than that...I got nothing :o


I do get the power upgrades and such and quite uderstand that he has grown to make him more 'monstrous'.

I am just surprised how he was written so inconsistently back then.

Anyways, my favourite incarnation of him is the curent version. I also liked the merged Hulk before the retconn.

[hippy fascist]

I do get the power upgrades and such and quite uderstand that he has grown to make him more 'monstrous'.

I am just surprised how he was written so inconsistently back then.

Anyways, my favourite incarnation of him is the curent version. I also liked the merged Hulk before the retconn.

My favourite incarnation was during the original secret wars. The whole concept of him getting his genius intellect back and then slowly having to watch it slip away seemed extremely poigniant

[Ahura Mazda]

My favourite incarnation was during the original secret wars. The whole concept of him getting his genius intellect back and then slowly having to watch it slip away seemed extremely poigniant


That was good and I remember that...the comics I was reading actually has him getting a presidential pardon following Banner taking over the Hulk's mind.

Quite cool actually and the anectdote is Strange feeling that he has lost his team mate as a result.

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Is Over!!!

(Lower turn out this week. You can tell the holidays are upon us. Remember, we're having a week off. Hopefully, we get a good amount of us back the following week; otherwise, we might have to make an executive decision. It will actually be kind of dull not debating and voting for a week.)

[JewishHobbit]

So... what have you guys bought everyone for christmas... how many of it was for "Them" but you plan on utilizing more than them :)

I mostly bought for my little brother and sister.... and I bought my little brother X-Men Legends. Yeah, that was for the both of us ;)

And I also want to comment that my wife is the luckiest Home Depot employee alive. Last christmas they had a drawing and she won a big screan tv (52 inch). Then they had another drawing later and she won a personalized autograph by Cincinnati Bangal's Coach Marvin Lewis, then a few months back they had another drawing and she won a smaller flatscrean tv, then a few days ago we had this years christmas party and she won a laptop with a printer/scanner! Merry Christmas to her (me ;))

[Phaedrus45]

The following people have new matches starting next week:

Wolverine25th, Wiegeabo = 4
Trigger, *Midnight Ice, DarkHellRider, Powderman = 3
Phaedrus45, Harlekin, Zoken = 2
Darthphere, Kytrigger, Ahura Mazda, Hippy Fascist, Hellstormer, JewishHobbit = 1
Iceman/Psylocke = 0

(A "*" by your name indicated two of your characters facing each other.)


Total wins for Round 1:

Phaedrus45 = 18
JewishHobbit = 17
Hippy Fascist, Darthphere, Kytrigger = 14
Harlekin, Ahura Mazda = 12
Wiegeabo = 11
Hellstormer = 9
Iceman/Psylocke = 8
Wolverine25th, Midnight Ice = 7
Zoken = 6
DarkHellRider = 5
Trigger, Powderman = 3



Total losses for Round 1:

Trigger = 19
Zoken = 17
Powderman, Harlekin = 13
Hellstormer = 12
Midnight Ice, DarkHellRider = 11
Ahura Mazda = 9
Wolverine25th, Darthphere, Hippy Fascist, Iceman/Psylocke = 8
Wiegeabo, Kytrigger = 7
JewishHobbit = 6
Phaedrus45 = 3

The following characters advance to Round 2:

Bracket 1: Ares(PHAEDRUS45) vs. Kid Omega(PHAEDRUS45)
Bracket 2: Human Torch(HIPPY FASCIST) vs. Joseph(JEWISHHOBBIT)
Bracket 3: Protocide(MIDNIGHT ICE) vs. Baron Blood(DARTHPHERE)
Bracket 4: Pluto(AHURA MAZDA) vs. Kane-Weapon X(PHAEDRUS45)
Bracket 5: Nimrod(WIEGEABO) vs. Terrax(PHAEDRUS45)
Bracket 6: Bi-Beast(POWDERMAN) vs. Wildside(KYTRIGGER)
Bracket 7: Death's Head II(ICEMAN/PSYLOCKE) vs. Cyclops(JEWISHHOBBIT)
Bracket 8: Reaper(HARLEKIN) vs. Storm(JEWISHHOBBIT)

[JewishHobbit]

Bracket 1: Ares(PHAEDRUS45) vs. Kid Omega(PHAEDRUS45)

Wow, that's one of those bittersweat matches. It's awsome that one of your great characters are advancing onto round 3, but you're also losing a great character automatically.

[Phaedrus45]

Wow...we've gone crazy with spending no gifts this year. My boy will be getting Nintendo Wii and about six games, PS3 and 2 games, (I still have to find him a Seahawk Black Shadow Jersey), my daughter is going to have a bunch of stuff that is suitable for a 4 year old girl, like Strawberry Shortcake, Barbie Fairytopia, new sheets for her bed, movies, all much more. I got my mom Dead Like Me season 2 (we loved season 1) and a special musical bear, got my ex quite few things, including Sirius Radio with a paid subscription...that's what comes to mind. I think the only thing left to get is stocking stuffers.

[Darthphere]

I bought my parents an alarm clock. Im a bad kid.

[Phaedrus45]

Wow, that's one of those bittersweat matches. It's awsome that one of your great characters are advancing onto round 3, but you're also losing a great character automatically.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I might go with Ares, simply for the fact that people with Mind Control usually get votes against them because of the nature of their abilities. Many hate characters that can possibly take a match without really having to do anything.

[JewishHobbit]

My mom bought my brother and sister a Playstation 2 (yeah, we're too poor to get the new stuff :)). I bought my brother X-Men Legends, so he'll be in heaven with all that. We also bought them a couple CD Players, some clothes, some random toys, etc. With my mom and stepdad getting divorced, there wasn't a lot of money to dish around for them, so my wife and I decided to not buy for each other and focus on them. My daughters each got some small things, but everyone's buying for them, so we justified it. My mother-in-law alone brought about 5 bags worth of presents over for them.

All in all we had a potentially bad christmas and made it good for all the kids. I'm excited. Now I just can't wait to play X-Men Legends. I played it once for a few hours and have always wanted to play it again, and actually play it full out. Now I'll have the chance!

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I might go with Ares, simply for the fact that people with Mind Control usually get votes against them because of the nature of their abilities. Many hate characters that can possibly take a match without really having to do anything.

I think publicity will work in your favor with Ares as well. By that time he'll be in Mighty Avengers, and though that won't be the version you're using, it gets his name out there and more people will know what his character is about and capable of. I still need to read his mini.

[Phaedrus45]

I bought my parents an alarm clock. Im a bad kid.

Yeah, but I heard you bought JH a hot tub....but, it's more for you.

[hippy fascist]

Percentage wins for Round 1:

Phaedrus45 = 85.71
JewishHobbit = 73.91
Kytrigger = 66.67
Hippy Fascist = 63.64
Darthphere = 63.64
Wiegeabo = 61.11
Wolverine25th = 57.89
Ahura Mazda = 57.14
Iceman/Psylocke = 50.00
Harlekin =48.00
Hellstormer = 43.86
Midnight Ice = 38.89
DarkHellRider = 31.25
Zoken = 26.09
Powderman = 18.75
Trigger =13.64

[Darthphere]

Yeah, but I heard you bought JH a hot tub....but, it's more for you.


JH has a big mouth.....:wow: :huh: :cmad:

[Darthphere]

Percentage wins for Round 1:

Phaedrus45 = 85.71
JewishHobbit = 73.91
Kytrigger = 66.67
Darthphere = 63.64
Hippy Fascist = 63.64
Wiegeabo = 61.11
Wolverine25th = 57.89
Ahura Mazda = 57.14
Iceman/Psylocke = 50.00
Harlekin =48.00
Hellstormer = 43.86
DarkHellRider = 31.25
Zoken = 26.09
Powderman = 18.75
Trigger =13.64

Midnight Ice


Fixed.:o

[Phaedrus45]

All in all we had a potentially bad christmas and made it good for all the kids. I'm excited. Now I just can't wait to play X-Men Legends. I played it once for a few hours and have always wanted to play it again, and actually play it full out. Now I'll have the chance!

Probably soon enough, Ultimate Marvel will go down in price, especially the PS2 version. You'll love getting your hands on that, getting to play as Moon Knight or Deadpool. That's that type of game I used to dream about getting made when I was a kid.

[JewishHobbit]

I thought that game was about the Ultimate Universe? Is it not?

[hippy fascist]

My mom bought my brother and sister a Playstation 2 (yeah, we've got too much common sense to buy an overpriced piece of rubbish that is no better than the much cheaper XBox 360...:)).

Fixed for you :woot:

[Phaedrus45]

No, it's a 616 game. (For one thing, Nick Fury is white.) They are just trying to let you know they made the ultimate game for Marvel fans. (Plus, probably trying to get some of the popularity from the Ultimate franchise.)

[hippy fascist]

Fixed.:o

Whore! :cmad:

Why didn't you vote this week? :huh:

[wiegeabo]

Fixed for you :woot:

Excellent job, hippy. JH's post makes much more sense now.

[Darthphere]

Whore! :cmad:

Why didn't you vote this week? :huh:


I was going to do it when i got online today, but Phaed closed voting.

[Phaedrus45]

Percentage wins for Round 1:

Phaedrus45 = 85.71
JewishHobbit = 73.91
Kytrigger = 66.67
Hippy Fascist = 63.64
Darthphere = 63.64
Wiegeabo = 61.11
Wolverine25th = 57.89
Ahura Mazda = 57.14
Iceman/Psylocke = 50.00
Harlekin =48.00
Hellstormer = 43.86
Midnight Ice = 38.89
DarkHellRider = 31.25
Zoken = 26.09
Powderman = 18.75
Trigger =13.64

Darth and Hippy were arguing before this contest ever began, and now they are tied. I'm dying to see who gets Round 1 bragging rights.

[hippy fascist]

Excellent job, hippy. JH's post makes much more sense now.

Indeed! :yay:

[Phaedrus45]

I was going to do it when i got online today, but Phaed closed voting.

I didn't even know Darth didn't vote. Usually, he's in on the first day. I figured everyone went off on holiday or something. I thought one vote might be missing; but, all votes had at least a 2 vote lead.

[Phaedrus45]

Ah, Hippy, for a gaming system, it might be over-priced. But, for a blue-ray DVD player, it's very much a good buy.

[hippy fascist]

Darth and Hippy were arguing before this contest ever began, and now they are tied. I'm dying to see who gets Round 1 bragging rights.

Whoever wins I always have my humungous wang to fall back on if I need to brag :woot:

[hippy fascist]

Ah, Hippy, for a gaming system, it might be over-priced. But, for a blue-ray DVD player, it's very much a good buy.

Not when you take into account the fact that it will simply be the modern equivalent of a reasonably priced betamax player...:o

Sony have NEVER succesfully launched a new format. If you can name me ONE I'll give you my all my civil war variants :up:

[Darthphere]

HD-DVD is going to win out, if any of the two even stay.

[Phaedrus45]

Holy cow! That's some blizzard back east. Mile High just sent out an email saying they've closed down their stores. Then, at the end of the email, they said "They just announced on the TV that the Governor of Colorado has called out the National Guard to rescue stranded motorists on the Turnpike. I was darn lucky to have made it through..."

[Darthphere]

Whoever wins I always have my humungous wang to fall back on if I need to brag :woot:


Im a huge vagina, beat that.

[Harlekin]

On the one hand, my pisspoor winnings make me glad that this contest will weed out my weaker characters for Round 2, where I get to go on an ownage streak. On the other hand, I'm just pissed I'm losing this much (especially when it's a good character like Gravity or Mercy). I did much better in the first season.

[hippy fascist]

Holy cow! That's some blizzard back east. Mile High just sent out an email saying they've closed down their stores. Then, at the end of the email, they said "They just announced on the TV that the Governor of Colorado has called out the National Guard to rescue stranded motorists on the Turnpike. I was darn lucky to have made it through..."

SWEET! That sale might hold out till my payday if they can't access their servers! I can get more comics! :woot:

I feel dead inside after that last comment...:csad:

[Phaedrus45]

On the one hand, my pisspoor winnings make me glad that this contest will weed out my weaker characters for Round 2, where I get to go on an ownage streak. On the other hand, I'm just pissed I'm losing this much (especially when it's a good character like Gravity or Mercy). I did much better in the first season.

Mercy should have won that match. The only bigger travesty was Gamora getting knocked out in the first round two seasons in a row by lesser characters. I think JH used mind tricks!!!

[hippy fascist]

Im a huge vagina, beat that.

i'm so used to having the freedom of speech afforded by lesoftparade that I can't think of a retort to that that wouldn't get me banned... :csad:

[hippy fascist]

On the one hand, my pisspoor winnings make me glad that this contest will weed out my weaker characters for Round 2, where I get to go on an ownage streak. On the other hand, I'm just pissed I'm losing this much (especially when it's a good character like Gravity or Mercy). I did much better in the first season.

Last week charcoal got through but wiccan and speed got knocked out :cmad:

Luck of the draw plays a much more significant role at this stage. Things should level out once we hit round 3 onwards :up:

[Darthphere]

i'm so used to having the freedom of speech afforded by lesoftparade that I can't think of a retort to that that wouldn't get me banned... :csad:


I cant find the will to post on there.

[hippy fascist]

I cant find the will to post on there.

it's awesome! :woot: I posted hardcore fisting pictures the other day and rather than just banning me they simply asked me to take it down :up: It's so much more mature :cwink:

[Darthphere]

it's awesome! :woot: I posted hardcore fisting pictures the other day and rather than just banning me they simply asked me to take it down :up: It's so much more mature :cwink:


Are there noobs to pwn?

[hippy fascist]

Are there noobs to pwn?

Some, but it seems to have divided. You have holly's coven vs brodie/kipobe

Movies 205 gets the piss taken out of him by everyone as does hades

Wilhelm is our king

and various other people tend to mingle

MAJOR plus point = no Mr Sparkle doing his captain PC routine :word:

[Darthphere]

My services aren't needed.

[Darren Daring]

Damnit, I invited you for a reason:cmad:

[hippy fascist]

Darth would make an interesting addition to darren's team as it would even out the numbers :up:

[Harlekin]

Luck of the draw plays a much more significant role at this stage. Things should level out once we hit round 3 onwards :up:
Yeah, I know. Still, it hurts.

Ah, who gives a flying ****, I get to own you all with Baron Zemo anyway.

[hippy fascist]

Zemo is TEH SUXXORZ!!!!!!!11!!1!! :cmad:

[Darren Daring]

Darth would make an interesting addition to darren's team as it would even out the numbers :up:

1. There aren't teams, they all secretly love me.

2. I'm totally beating them:cmad:

3. Darth only beats up silly n00bs, ohhh, yeah, I said it, Darth, defend your honor

4. I'm just bitter over my poster of the year trouncing:(

[Darthphere]

1. There aren't teams, they all secretly love me.

2. I'm totally beating them:cmad:

3. Darth only beats up silly n00bs, ohhh, yeah, I said it, Darth, defend your honor

4. I'm just bitter over my poster of the year trouncing:(


No, I beat up everybody really, and you're Vice Poster of the Year.

[JewishHobbit]

I checked the place out... but I prefur the family friendliness of the hype. If I did go over there though, I'd be with Brodie :)

[Darren Daring]

purrr.

Also, I would have invited Jew, but Tuk might have hurt me:(

[Harlekin]

Zemo is TEH SUXXORZ!!!!!!!11!!1!! :cmad:
Heh heh. I can't wait till I get to show all of you guys what Zemo can really do.

[JewishHobbit]

purrr.

Also, I would have invited Jew, but Tuk might have hurt me:(

Someone invited me, but I don't remember who. I now Holly did, but someone else did before her. Kipobe maybe? I don't remember.

Edit: Just checked. Turns out it was Tuki :) I'm cool like 'dat!

[Phaedrus45]

Don't you just hate it when you can't access this site for extended periods of time, or you are about to post a lengthy reply, and it gets deleted because of some delay with the site?

Now, when I get matches and stuff ready, I'll make sure I try and access the site before I send stuff through.

[Phaedrus45]

To give an idea of how many matches everyone has fought, her is the amount of characters each partipants has gone through with only 6 weeks to go in Round 1:

Harlekin = 25
JewishHobbit, Zoken = 23
HippyFascist, Darthphere, Trigger = 22
Phaedrus45, Kytrigger, AhuraMazda, Hellstormer = 21
Wiegeabo, Midnight Ice = 18
Iceman/Psylocke, DarkHellRider, Powderman = 16
Wolverine25th = 15

Remember, everyone has 32 characters. So, Harlekin is almost nearing the end, while Wolverine25th has a whole lot of debating coming up.

[hippy fascist]

edit: God bless us every one! :)

If this breaks code of conduct, tell me and I'll remove it. I've been to my work's christmas do and I'm rat-arsed on cobra! :woot:

[Phaedrus45]

Week Dec. 29-Jan.4:

Wolverine25th, Wiegeabo = 4
Trigger, *Midnight Ice, DarkHellRider, Powderman = 3
Phaedrus45, Harlekin, Zoken = 2
Darthphere, Kytrigger, Ahura Mazda, Hippy Fascist, Hellstormer, JewishHobbit = 1
Iceman/Psylocke = 0

Week Jan.5-Jan.11:

Hellstormer, Wiegeabo = 4
Phaedrus45, Ahura Mazda, DarkHellRider = 3
JewishHobbit, Trigger, Midnight Ice, Harlekin, Iceman/Psylocke, Zoken = 2
Wolverine25th, Hippy Fascist, Darthphere = 1
Kytrigger, Powderman = 0

Week Jan.12-Jan.18:

DarkHellRider = 5
Powderman = 4
Kytrigger, Wolverine25th, Iceman/Psylocke, JewishHobbit = 3
Trigger, Hippy Fascist, Midnight Ice, Zoken = 2
Ahura Mazda, Phaedrus45, Wiegeabo = 1
Hellstormer, Darthphere, Harlekin = 0

Week Jan.19-Jan.25:

Iceman/Psylocke = 5
Darthphere = 4
Hippy Fascist, Powderman, Wolverine25th = 3
Wiegeabo, Hellstormer, Ahura Mazda, Phaedrus45, DarkHellRider, Kytrigger = 2
Trigger, Midnight Ice = 1
JewishHobbit, Zoken, Harlekin = 0

Jan.26-Feb.1:

Powderman, Darthphere, DarkHellRider, Midnight Ice, *Iceman/Psylocke = 3
Kytrigger, Ahura Mazda, Zoken, Phaedrus45, JewishHobbit, Wolverine25th, Hippy Fascist = 2
Hellstormer, Harlekin, Wiegeabo = 1
Trigger = 0

Feb.2-Feb.8:

Wolverine25th = 4
Kytrigger, Midnight Ice, Iceman/Psylocke, Hellstormer = 3
Harlekin, Wiegeabo, Powderman, *Trigger = 2
Darthphere, Ahura Mazda, Phaedrus45, DarkHellRider, JewishHobbit, Hippy Fascist, Zoken = 1

(A "*" by your name indicates two of participants characters fighting each other.)

Ok, I went through everything, and hopefully everyone's totals equal 32. If not, I did some bad addition along the way, which did happen last season. Not sure I have time to check...but, if someone wants to do something constructive, add up everyone's totals and see if we all come out to 32.

[Iceman]

The last 5 weeks I've got 2, 3, 5, 3 & 3 matches (+ rematches)! :eek:

I better not be away in Jan.

[Phaedrus45]

Well, I'll have to check the records. I have Ahura and Powderman at 31 and DarkHellRider at 33. Everyone else is right on target at 32.

[Harlekin]

Man, two free weeks in the heart of january. I already hate next week's bye week too, why two more? :(

Oh well, I'm still the badass that has had the most matches.

[Phaedrus45]

I've only had one bye week the entire time. I also have at least one match every other week, and Round 2 is going to be a pain in the butt for me.

[Ahura Mazda]

Well personally I am very glad for the bye week and just in case I do not post in here for a while.

I wish all of you very happy holidays and a great new year.

[hippy fascist]

I'm off for two weeks as well so I wish you all the best of times over this holiday season. I hope santa brings you your every hearts desire and that you are all with the people you love over christmas.


To one and all I say merry non-denominational-december-holiday! :woot:

http://members.lycos.nl/sweezzzie/hpbimg/evil%20santa!!.jpg


p.s. I look forward to pwning you all in the new year :cwink:

[CorporalHicks]

I'll take thing

[Phaedrus45]

Corporal Hicks wants someone's thing. Got a hot tub, I might be able to hook you up.

[JewishHobbit]

Wow, so I will have one bi-week coming up, and that's the only one I've had all season thus far (that I can think of). Fun stuff.

Well, off to the shower I go.

[Iceman]

Happy Holidays chaps :up:


I'll be around sparingly.

[Phaedrus45]

Wow, so I will have one bi-week coming up,

So, that's what you're calling it nowadays?

[kytrigger]

So, that's what you're calling it nowadays?

BA-ZING!!!

Just droppinginto wish everyonethe best of Holidays, I'll be around sparingly for the next week until I get back to normal life.

[Phaedrus45]

Wow...I got to wake up to a snowy morning. It only makes it better knowing that I don't have to work this morning. Last night, I took my son to the 10:15 showing of Night at the Museum. The movie is alright; it just won't be one that you'll necessarily want to buy on DVD or anything. Go to the cheapest show, and you'll be happy.

[Harlekin]

Because I've neglected to mention this: Merry Christmas (or whatever) folks.

[Phaedrus45]

Christmas eve, and it's almost time for my family to get everyone together and open presents. We've ordered 2 Azteca party platters and 2 large nachos to eat before and after unwrapping. A shame that all that shopping, wrapping, and cleaning all gets finished in less than an hour.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to all believers, and Happy Holidays for those who celebrate in a different way. It's been a great year, and having you guys in this contest has only added to the joy. I wish you all the best, and look forward to getting back into our debates next week.

Tim and family

[JewishHobbit]

Merry Christmas Eve people! I went to church this morning (first time in a while thanks to work). After that I went to my annoying mother-in-law's, and then to her in-law's, who aren't as annoying. The highlight of my night has been watching the Bangals game... and then it was ground into the dirt by an embaressing defeat. Well, I'm going to go nerd now and set up a new deck for my Lord of the Rings tcg, since my only other friend who plays it has been in the mood to play again (after a year or so). So that'll make me happy.

However, I was happy that my in-law's in-laws gave my wife and I $40... and my wife said I could spend it on comics. So I get to buy a couple trades... awsome! I'm thinking New X-Men: Childhood's End Vol. 3, Uncanny X-Men New Age Vol. 5: The First Forsaken, and maybe Drax The Destroyer: Earthfall (I think that was what it was called). We'll see what's at the comic shop, or online if I go that route.

[Iceman]

Happy Birthday Ky :up:

[kytrigger]

Happy Birthday Ky :up:

Thanks Iceman/Psylocke. :woot:

Hope everyone's Christmas and any other Holiday celebration is going well. I've been looking into buying some trades as well with some newfound Christmas money so we'll see how that goes (I was thinking either Fables or Preacher).

Either way, hope everyone enjoys the rest of their holidays. I know this break has been good for me, as it's given me time to rechearge my batteries so I can kick butt in the rest of COM :woot:

[Phaedrus45]

Merry Christmas, and happy birthday, Ky!

Yeah, I'll be buying more backissues real soon. I got a bonus of $200.00 from work, and with Milehigh's 50% off sale, I can't help but give them all my money.

[JewishHobbit]

I got a gift card to a nearby mall and I know they have a book store with trades, so that's going to that... I also got the $40 from my wife's in-laws, so that's going toward trades also. I might buy something new, or something from Elijya (as he's selling a lot of his trades). We'll see.

Oh, and Merry Christmas everyone.

[Phaedrus45]

Wow...I've read reviews were the Wii is getting lower rankings than the 360 and PS3; but, their games are so much more fun than both other systems combined. Now, don't get me wrong, the 360 has some excellent games, but with the way the remote works for the Wii, we had 3 adults playing it on Christmas Eve...and, that's just the free Wii Sports game that comes in the box. Today at work, I've been playing Elebits, and it's just nice not to have another war game, or Halo-style rip-off, or sports game.

They say the Wii might not be seen until March in many stores; but, if you have a chance to get one, I don't think anyone will be disappointed. Plus, it's great to have a video game where my boy has to get off his butt, stand up, and use the motion of his body to get the desired effect. (Heck, even boxing was tiring me out.)

[wiegeabo]

Boxing is a workout. But I'm addicted to it now.

The graphics and power for the Wii is only somewhat better then that of the Gamecube (but that makes sense since it plays Gamecube games). That's why the rankings tend to be worse.

But it's a winner because it's so different, and so much fun. And being cheap doesn't hurt either. So, yes, if you get the chance, grab one. Toys'R'Us and Circuit City are your best bets. (Toys'R'Us gets rather large shipments, and no one thinks to go to Circuit City which is why I was able to get mine). Wal-Mart is the worst place to go (in my area) because they get almost none.

[Phaedrus45]

I think the worst places are the specific game stores, like Gamestop. But, the Best Buy near me was getting the two systems in, right up to Christmas. I know they were selling PS3's on Christmas Eve.

[Iceman]

Phaed have you got all 3 systems?

[wiegeabo]

I think the worst places are the specific game stores, like Gamestop. But, the Best Buy near me was getting the two systems in, right up to Christmas. I know they were selling PS3's on Christmas Eve.

I ignore Gamestop because it's a small store anyway. I think they only get around 5 Wii's at a time. (Which is pretty good based on its size.) But I don't think mega-giant Wal-Mart has ever gotten more than 12 at a time in my area, while Circuit City always gets 15 and Target and Toys' get 30 each.

[wiegeabo]

Hey Phaed, did you send off for the free replacement straps for your wiimotes?

[Phaedrus45]

Phaed have you got all 3 systems?

Yeah, we've got all three systems. Depending on what you want in your gaming experience, go with 360 or Wii, definitely. PS3 can probably wait a good 6 months or more, when they get more games for it.

No, I haven't requested my replacement strap yet. I just heard about that yesterday, and have to find out where to request it.

[Iceman]

Yeah, we've got all three systems. Depending on what you want in your gaming experience, go with 360 or Wii, definitely. PS3 can probably wait a good 6 months or more, when they get more games for it.

No, I haven't requested my replacement strap yet. I just heard about that yesterday, and have to find out where to request it.I've got a 360 already which turned out better than expected, although I can't get Live to work. I was originally planning on getting a PS3 but they're not out till March at the earliest in Europe :cmad: so I'm not sure if I'm getting one at all now (at least not in the next 12 months). The wii is more of an option for a second console at the moment as it's so cheap and innovative.

[wiegeabo]

Here's the adress for the strap replacement page. All you need is the serial number of your system (you'll probably want to register the system too, if you haven't. It's really easy.)

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/strapreplace.jsp

[Phaedrus45]

I've bought two games for the PS3: Resistance and Dark Kingdom. Dark Kingdom is kind of nice, but you'll be just as happy with 360's Gears Of War. I just haven't touched the system that much, and asking the game guys at my local Gamestop, they said there really isn't much that they recommend for the system besides Resistance. I really say just wait a good 6 months. Definitely get the Wii.

Games I've played for the Wii I'd recommend:

Wii Sports - (Comes free with the game system; and, one of the most fun you can have with everyone...even someone who's never played video games much before.)

Zelda - (My son's been playing it and loving it. I've just not wanted to get into a big adventure yet; but, I hear it's the best Wii has to offer. If that's true, it must really be great with the games I've been enjoying getting much lower reviews.)

Elebits - (My favorite game. It's very simplistic, but just tons of fun. It also has lots of replay value.)

Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz - (I'm not a big Monkey Ball fan; as, I'm not really too good at it. With the motion control, though, I find I'm much better at it than ever before, and I'm not doing too bad. Just another reason motion sensored games are much more fun than using the old stick controls.)

Excite Truck - (I've only played it twice...which, says more about enjoying other games at the moment. But, it's kind of neat how they have made the stick into a steering wheel. I think I even heard you can buy a steering wheel to fit your controller into.)

The other games I haven't played yet that I own are Rayman Raving Rabbids, Madden 07, and Call Of Duty 3. I look forward to Rayman, but want to play Elebits more before I get engrossed in another game. My son's loving Madden 07. I'll have to try it sometime and see how it compares to the other versions.

I eventually have to try the online buying of games from Nintendo's past. I got the original controller for when I do. I just hope I can get another Wii controller for the system. It's annoying how they don't put out the hardware and accessories for these things. All stores always have big, blank shelving where these items are suppose to hang.

How 'bout it, Wieg? What have you played that you've been liking? Have you tried online game buying yet?

(Also, earlier in this thread, I gave my recommendations of 360 games I've liked. It's just, I've never been so impressed with a new system's initial output of games like the Wii.)