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Spider-ManHero12
09-24-2006, 01:42 PM
i think it should be the lizard.

Venom 1988
09-24-2006, 01:45 PM
Lizard

Spider-ManHero12
09-24-2006, 01:50 PM
it should be the lizard because thay already used venom in spiderman3. maybe they can bring venom back in future spiderman sequals.

lizard855
09-24-2006, 03:29 PM
^ yeah! LIZARD!!!!!

spideyman101
09-24-2006, 04:12 PM
Lizard mostley... and Venom, and a Carnage cameo... and possibly a Sandman return (possibly)

Arcturus
09-24-2006, 06:42 PM
Venom, of course.

Spider-ManHero12
09-24-2006, 11:34 PM
Venom, of course. venom would be cool in spiderman4, it would be cool if they used him in further seaquals, and use the lizard for the villian in spiderman4.

spideyman101
09-25-2006, 08:54 AM
Venom, of course.

yeah... i don't doubt Venom would make a cool comeback for a 4th... it's just Sam's frustrated fans with 2 movies with not using Lizard, i don't think for a moment he'll go with another movie without using Lizard... well, maybe he would if he formed a sensable story line that FORCED him to wait till 5... but even then he'd probobly hint that he's coming up for the 5th...

WTFimVENOM
09-25-2006, 10:19 AM
I can't see Lizard as a main villain at all, although he may be a fan favorite the general public might not find a lizard man to live up to Sm3 an its 3 major villains, so if he is in SM4 he will not be alone nor the main focus I think.
As for Venom, I would like to see him again but Im not sure Raimi is going to keep him alive after 3

CaptainStacy
09-26-2006, 12:57 PM
The Lizard.

Silver Sable
09-26-2006, 10:03 PM
Either one is fine

GoldGoblin
09-27-2006, 05:40 AM
Lizard

Chris Wallace
09-27-2006, 09:21 AM
Venom's more likely. I don't want the Lizard at all.

spideyman101
09-27-2006, 11:30 AM
I can't see Lizard as a main villain at all, although he may be a fan favorite the general public might not find a lizard man to live up to Sm3 an its 3 major villains, so if he is in SM4 he will not be alone nor the main focus I think.
As for Venom, I would like to see him again but Im not sure Raimi is going to keep him alive after 3

oh yeah, and a human Goblin isn't weird? what about a man with 4 extra arms? or a huge pile of sand? or how about a huge black alien weirdo?

i don't anything against these villains... i was just making a point, that you say Lizard's weird, while you can tolerate huge piles of sand going around.:oldrazz:

i love all these villains, even Lizard.

Wall Crawler
09-27-2006, 02:56 PM
both lizard and venom in sp4

we may only get a glimpse of venom at the end of SP3 to make a bigger build up 4 SP4

lizard855
09-27-2006, 03:26 PM
Venom's more likely. I don't want the Lizard at all. huh:

Chris Wallace
09-27-2006, 03:34 PM
I've got nothing against Lizard; he's one of my favorites (or he WAS until Jenkins ruined him.)
I just don't think he'd fit the movies well.
He could-I've been wrong before. But I just don't see it.

Spideyfan01
09-30-2006, 04:54 PM
Lizard in 4, Venom in 5.

lizard855
09-30-2006, 08:05 PM
^ i am fine with that

The Ones
10-01-2006, 08:12 AM
Lizard with Venom and a Cletus Kassidy build up

Shadow_Knight
10-01-2006, 11:38 PM
That's kind of what I was thinking I was thinking making Carnage and Lizard in Spider-Man 4.

McVenom
10-13-2006, 03:25 PM
venom as main and lizard as a side story

Matt Murdock
10-14-2006, 06:11 PM
agreed with mcvenom.

Reda
10-19-2006, 05:46 AM
After Venom was first defeated by Spider-Man, he returned to the comics as a sociapathic maniac who would just show up in Eddie Brock guise round to an unsuspecting Aunt Mays house for tea,pretending that he was an old freind of Peters and being very charming and likeable to May, whilst Peter was there looking on helplessly, as if to say to Peter that he could pretty much take out a member of his family if wished. So I think lizard could be the main physical villain in SM4 and venom could be the psychologically unstable menace that messes with Parker's mind which could lead to a major battle in SM5.

Reed

McVenom
10-19-2006, 03:32 PM
After Venom was first defeated by Spider-Man, he returned to the comics as a sociapathic maniac who would just show up in Eddie Brock guise round to an unsuspecting Aunt Mays house for tea,pretending that he was an old freind of Peters and being very charming and likeable to May, whilst Peter was there looking on helplessly, as if to say to Peter that he could pretty much take out a member of his family if wished. So I think lizard could be the main physical villain in SM4 and venom could be the psychologically unstable menace that messes with Parker's mind which could lead to a major battle in SM5.

Reed

Not a bad idea

NinjaTurtleFan
10-21-2006, 12:35 PM
Why not both? Then we get the best of both worlds.

Greenshirt
10-26-2006, 12:09 PM
If Venom and/or Carnage is used by Spider-Man 3, I would go with the lizard.

fallenAngel
11-13-2006, 03:30 PM
Sort of depends on how well done Venom is in three. I personally always loved his orgin but got tired of him after that.

Lizard is one of my favs, plus Conners has already been featured and since he has a family and such it can provide good emotion. And possibly tie into Peter thinking of starting a family himself or something. All movies from this point on are likely to have more than one villain though.

Visionary
11-19-2006, 06:16 PM
THE LIZARD (main villain) and Kraven The Hunter (secondary villain), hunting down either The Lizard or/and Spidey--with hints of the comic book story arc Kraven's Last Hunt. Half of the movie should take place during a New York City Blackout.

This is what I's like to see in SM4.

Lots o lafs
11-24-2006, 11:17 PM
I cant see the lizard being the main villian in 4 marbe in five venom should be the villian in 4 but they will prob bring back gg2 as one of em so what the heck throw the lizard in

Lots o lafs
11-24-2006, 11:19 PM
Why not both? Then we get the best of both worlds. yes

Spider-Fan
11-25-2006, 12:02 PM
I think it should be the Lizard. I think that Venom will have had enough use after SM3. We have seen him, lets see someone new. The Lizard could provide an excellent story in SM4.

Krysta123_7
05-08-2007, 12:31 AM
Hell Ya Venom should be in SM4 it would make a great sequal

Redwoods Wolf
05-08-2007, 12:43 AM
If there IS a fourth movie, definitely the Lizard over....Topher Grace.
The only villain I'd want to see reprising his role is Doc Ock and/or Sandman if they make a Sinister Six flick.

Which they won't, I'm sure.

Alex
05-08-2007, 12:55 AM
I'd love to see Venom, but that probably won't happen. I can hope though, can't I?

Lizard would be interesting, but I kind of wish they had had him for the third and had Sandman for later one. Way back when no one knew the villians of Spiderman 3, I was hoping it'd be a story about Lizard with an introduction to Eddie Brock who would later become Venom and then have the fourth all about Venom. Oh well.

Alex
05-08-2007, 12:56 AM
If there IS a fourth movie, definitely the Lizard over....Topher Grace.
The only villain I'd want to see reprising his role is Doc Ock and/or Sandman if they make a Sinister Six flick.

Which they won't, I'm sure.
You didn't like Topher Grace as Venom?

They won't.

blackspiderman9
05-09-2007, 02:03 AM
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HR-PUFF&STUFF
05-09-2007, 02:10 AM
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well thats what one guy thinks.

Alex
05-09-2007, 09:17 AM
It's too soon for Carnage.

mike316
05-11-2007, 08:06 AM
Lizard!!

Justu
05-11-2007, 10:17 AM
Lizard should be in the 4th they already used venom

Da Games Elite
05-11-2007, 03:03 PM
It was officially announced one character from THE LAST SPIDER-MAN was being talked to about returning for Spider-Man 4, WHO HAD DIED. Well...I wonder who this could be...

I think the Lizard WILL be the next villain to appear, but Venom would be the best addition to the plot.

Nathan
05-11-2007, 03:27 PM
The Lizard definitely should be the villain in the 4th Movie. But I wouldn't mind Venom making a return. Although him being vaporized in the explosion makes it pretty unlikely.

But I imagined that scene in my mind. Spider-Man is facing the Lizard in the sewers and it comes to a fight. Knowing who the Lizard truly is, he holds back and takes a lot of damage simply trying to defend himself.

Spider-Man lies battered and wounded on the ground, as the Lizard pounces towards him to deliver the final blow. As the Lizard is in mid-jump, he suddenly falls to the ground. Behind him we see Venom holding his tail and he talks "Back off Barney. Parker is ours!" Feral fight ensues. :sym:

The Joker
05-11-2007, 04:55 PM
Venom is DEAD!

Venom 1988
05-11-2007, 05:21 PM
Venom is DEAD!

Exactly

Spiderine
05-11-2007, 06:59 PM
no need to see that slim stalker again trying to kill Peter. Geeshh. Bring in the Lizard please.....we have been waiting.

Spiderine
05-11-2007, 07:00 PM
Two snarling drooling monsters in the same movie not needed.

Carnage921
05-11-2007, 07:20 PM
what if the lizard is the main villain, then let the movie play out, during a battle with spidey in his lab, he breaks the vial containing the symbiote, (he still has some remember), it escapes, bonds with cletus kasady, carnage is born at the very end, stage set for number 5.

a very good plot IMO.

Symbiote Hulk
05-12-2007, 11:42 PM
Both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Krysta123_7
10-24-2007, 06:58 PM
i think it should be the lizard.


I Totally Agree with you!!! :word:

DACrowe
10-24-2007, 07:17 PM
Lizard deserved being in a movie before Venom to begin with.

chaseter
10-25-2007, 10:43 AM
Uh not Venom ever again.

Eddy Brock Jr.
10-25-2007, 11:03 AM
Venom and Lizard

The Joker
10-25-2007, 11:14 AM
Uh not Venom ever again.

Agreed.

BobJM
10-25-2007, 02:11 PM
I was often skeptical about having Lizard appear in a future film due to his appearance. The movies has never been (so far) constricted to the idea of "realism", so far everything that has occurred in the films has remained rather calm for lack of a better term, with the exception of the alien symbiote. However, even that went overlooked by several of my friends who are less familiar with the comics. (Maybe it was the rushed natural of the film that it didn't have a big impact?)

Having a giant Lizard man running around through the streets seemed a bit too much for these films, especially if there was some crazed jungle man chasing after him. However, seeing how seamlessly Venom and his alien origin was integrated into SM3 (even if you didn't like his lack of screen time, you have to admit that Venom made the 3rd act work), I think Lizard can actually work.

That being said, some changes might be needed due to similar storylines used for Doc Ock and Sandman respectively.

Does this mean I would like to see Kraven as well? Absolutely not.

Visionary
10-25-2007, 02:20 PM
The Lizard can easily work.