1.01 - Pilot - Discussion/Feedback.

[Warhammer]

The episode ain't too shabby so far.

:cool:

[Mixairian]

"Where did you learn all this stuff from?"
"X-Men #143 when Kitty Pryde travels through time."

I'm still laughing. :)

[Savage]

Yeah, I'm definately diggin this. Looks like we have our villain. :)

[Warhammer]

"Where did you learn all this stuff from?"
"X-Men #143 when Kitty Pryde travels through time."

I'm still laughing. :)

And I was hoping that a superhero reference wouldn't be referenced in this show, but hey, this is set in our world. :o

[Mixairian]

I just don't want it to turn into a comic book literally.

[Warhammer]

I just don't want it to turn into a comic book literally.

I am still thinking about it like this:

- The show is called Heroes, so will they actually become Heroes and fight evil (In a real world sorta way)?
- Will they all eventually meet?
- Will they form a team? (X-Men?)
- Will there be a villain? (Obviously, we might've already found her)
- With all of these characters, will there be a driving force/plot/goal to the show?

[Cmill216]

Didn't see all of it, but I taped it. Looks good (loved the trailer for the upcoming episodes).

[O'Haire]

It was okay. But the seires preview at the end sold it for me. This show looks like it's going to get VERY interesting.

Tim Sales art was fantastic too. Best I have probabaly seen from him.

[blksuperman2]

Awesom Ep. IMO. I'm diggin it.

[The Squirrel]

I loved it.

I thought it was going to be 2hrs. I was all hyped for 2 hrs. :(

Oh well. It was a good first episode.

Loved the two twists.

The evil guy being the girls father and the older brother being the one who can fly.

Can't wait for next week.

[Darkdd]

It was okay. But the seires preview at the end sold it for me. This show looks like it's going to get VERY interesting.

Tim Sales art was fantastic too. Best I have probabaly seen from him.
Same here. This seems like a show that gets better with time.

[Venom71]

I really liked it..only person's power I don't get is the blonde's with the kid? Can somone explain?:huh:

[Gold Samurai]

Man the preview for future eps show Hiro reading a comic about himself.

My thought is that there is someone out there that has the power to draw pictures and they come to life or it goes the Unbreakable route

Cross your fingers this series doesn't fail like "Surface"

[Warhammer]

I give it a fair 8/10.
Not bad.

I'll be watching this show next week.

[Warhammer]

I really liked it..only person's power I don't get is the blonde's with the kid? Can somone explain?:huh:

- I think her reflection takes form and is evil.
Astral projection that can take physical characteristics/abilities?

- Maybe it is her true side, and maybe she, herself, kill those two men unconsciously, while her bad side took over?

- Split-personality?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[-Knightfall-]

Hiro seems like the one who will prove most useful, based off of the preview for the rest of the series. Any bets on if both brothers will fly?

[TheMcGuffin]

I haven't seen enough yet to draw a solid opinion. I'll check it out next week and see where it goes from there.

[blksuperman2]

- I think her reflection takes form and is evil.
Astral projection that can take physical characteristics/abilities?

- Maybe it is her true side, and maybe she, herself, kill those two men unconsciously, while her bad side took over?

- Split-personality?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

That's the best explaination I could think of.:up:

[Guy Gardner]

I really wasn't that impressed with the first episode, I'll watch the replay tomorrow night and hope it grows on me.

I'll give it a couple more episodes to really straighten itself out before I cump all over it, but the way the NBC hype machine has been building this show I expected a bit more in the way of character.

I just hope the acting gets better as the series progresses ala Star Trek: The Next Generation.

6/10

edit: All that having been said, I really want them to add a Flash or Quicksilver-like character.

[blksuperman2]

Hiro seems like the one who will prove most useful, based off of the preview for the rest of the series. Any bets on if both brothers will fly?

I think they suggested as much what the brothers being connected. Sort of like Tomax and Xamot.:cwink:

[GNR]

I loved this.The story has so much meat to it and there are so many directions they can go.The twists were great and there was so many questions that came up.

I really don't know what some people were expecting,this was a solid opener.I liked how they managed to keep the serious almost "life as we know it is boring" mood throughout the entire show,loved it.

I don't jump on the bandwagon with any of these new hit TV shows,but this was just RIGHT up my alley.

Perfect 10.

[GNR]

Anyone catch a glimpse of Sale's art in the previews?Sweet.

[Venom71]

- I think her reflection takes form and is evil.
Astral projection that can take physical characteristics/abilities?

- Maybe it is her true side, and maybe she, herself, kill those two men unconsciously, while her bad side took over?

- Split-personality?

:confused: :confused: :confused:
All good explanations...thanks :word:

[Banshee]

Didn't they mean x-men 141, thats days of the future past?? Shouldn't tey get **** like that right when their prime audience knows that kind of thing.

[Primal Slayer]

It was a good premire. They did a nice job of already connecting all the charecters in some way. The previews looked intresting. And from interviews the show will get more interesting since not like everyone is going to have a happy ending.

Didn't they mean x-men 141, thats days of the future past?? Shouldn't tey get **** like that right when their prime audience knows that kind of thing.

Right...I highly doubt that the majority of their viewers will know what number Kitty Pride actually time traveled in. Just because there are people on this board who know all of this, there probably arent that many people watching the show that know. The most they probably do know is who the X-men are.

[StorminNorman]

Tell you the truth, I was uber-hyped and about half way through I was a little let down. They had several plots losely connected and it was just one big jumbled mess. And then it all clicked, and boy did it fit together nicely. It was a truly incredible awesome show with intresting characters and more than enough to keep me hooked for a while.

[Savage]

I think the brothers can both fly. Maybe together they even have another power.

I am nuts about Hiro so far though. He's my favorite character. :up:

[Guy Gardner]

It looks to be that both brothers can fly, but only one of them has developed the power.

I suspect that this will be a major plot device as the male nurse trys to pressure his brother into using the powers and the brother stays more focused on his congressional campaign.

[Colossal Spoons]

Good stuff. The blonde chick's power confuses the crap outta me though.

[Farren]

I liked it - definately needs some polishing and more pulling together, but that's not unusual for a pilot.

It was a mix of characters I loved (Claire and her teen angst, Hiro and his joy, Niki's horror-movie-like experience with her powers)

....and those who I watched counting down the minutes until things shifted back to their more entertaining counterparts (Peter- shut up already with your whining - no wonder your brother is in the spotlight and you're wandering aimlessly through existence; Mohinder - do you even have powers? I don't care about your search for mutants, I'll see another one in five minutes).

[Farren]

Good stuff. The blonde chick's power confuses the crap outta me though.
I kinda like that though - it's a good mystery. And not understanding like her really makes me relate to what she's going through.

[GNR]

Good stuff. The blonde chick's power confuses the crap outta me though.

I thought that was cool.Keeping us guessing as to what everyone can do and how much they can do was great.

[amazingfantasy15]

Definitely my favorite pilot/new show of the season. I liked the seperate developing plotlines, once everything started to become connected it was great! The preview trailer was great, really got me excited, hopefully it gets the ratings to stay.

[deathshead2]

I saw part of it but from what I saw I would really just like a show based on Hiro(that name is cliche though) so far he is the best character and the only reason i'll checkk out for episodes. The rest I missed but I have it taped so no worry.

[Free Fall]

great show tonight but my tv barely came in so if anyone has the script for the heroes show i would love to have it. Thank You

[Farren]

great show tonight but my tv barely came in so if anyone has the script for the heroes show i would love to have it. Thank You

sometimes http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/ gets them after a while....

[Substance D]

cheezy dialogue and bad directing, but it has alot of potential. seems like nbc is the place to be monday nights. i don't know what i'm going to do when 24 comes on again...

[Lighthouse]

The show wasn't bad, although I did have some gripes with it. The cheerleader character seemed to be inventing her own drama. She's all distressed because she has all this stuff to do, and now she has these powers. So what? If she suddenly turned into a giant orange rock like the Thing, then I could see her plight, but I really don't see how her not being able to break bones is going to hurt her cheerleading career. Not sure of the significance of the eclipse, not sure I understand the Japanese guys powers(plus what the hell was up with all the Star Trek stuff, as it doesn't have anything to do with superpowers and feels like the writers just needed to throw in something geeky) and some of the dialogue was really silly, but I liked a lot of it too. Twist at the end wasn't bad either.

[theShape]

Meh. I had high hopes, and was let down. It tries to hard to be this high concept show where everything is connected and everything has a meaning and blah blah. It's "Lost" in New York, but it's less exciting.

I'll give it another show, but I doubt this show will last.

[Fenryr]

Maybe it's because I just reread it, but Niki's power seemed very similar to Stephanie/Critical Maas from Rising Stars. Some kind of weird personality disorder where the dupe is psychotic with crazy power.

[mrloco]

"Where did you learn all this stuff from?"
"X-Men #143 when Kitty Pryde travels through time."

I'm still laughing. :)

I am certain the 143 was intentional (Not Hiro-intentional, writer-intentional). I suspect 143 is a significant number -- 11:43 was the time on the train when Hiro began his teleportation. Could be something or nothing -- too early to tell. I'd be interested if anyone caught any other 143s in the premier, or has an explanation.

[Lighthouse]

Yeah, I kinda see Niki's as a kind of Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde kind of thing. Like the Hulk except when she gets angry, she gets evil instead of strong.

[War Party]

I enjoyed this. I'll be watching next week. I can't say how the show will do based off the pilot. This was just to get to know the characters and I think the show will start to show its identity in coming weeks.

[liesse00]

not sure I understand the Japanese guys powers.

He can time travel whats so hard to understand?

This was surprisingly good. It's got some good messages in there to that kind of make you think. I'm really looking forward to the whole season, I hope it makes a full season.

[bunk]

The show wasn't bad, although I did have some gripes with it. The cheerleader character seemed to be inventing her own drama. She's all distressed because she has all this stuff to do, and now she has these powers. So what? If she suddenly turned into a giant orange rock like the Thing, then I could see her plight, but I really don't see how her not being able to break bones is going to hurt her cheerleading career. Not sure of the significance of the eclipse, not sure I understand the Japanese guys powers(plus what the hell was up with all the Star Trek stuff, as it doesn't have anything to do with superpowers and feels like the writers just needed to throw in something geeky) and some of the dialogue was really silly, but I liked a lot of it too. Twist at the end wasn't bad either.

I really dug this show, I really was excited about it at all, figured it would suck. As far as the cheerleader chick goes: I don't think she was really concerned about her cheerleading career or school it was more the idea that none of that stuff probably means anything anymore. I thought the star trek stuff was funny. It was just his friend trying to make fun of him for being a dork and using something lame to do it. Hiro's friend obviously didn't know anything about superheros thats why he chose star trek. Good stuff.

[liesse00]

- Will there be a villain? (Obviously, we might've already found her)

I thought the villain was the guy with the glasses or did I miss something?

[Lighthouse]

He can time travel whats so hard to understand?

I wasn't aware time traveling meant you could teleport to New York from Japan.

[War Party]

I thought the villain was the guy with the glasses or did I miss something?

That's what I thought.

[Farren]

I am certain the 143 was intentional (Not Hiro-intentional, writer-intentional). I suspect 143 is a significant number -- 11:43 was the time on the train when Hiro began his teleportation. Could be something or nothing -- too early to tell. I'd be interested if anyone caught any other 143s in the premier, or has an explanation.
...interesting...but couldn't they have made it 11:41?

[Substance D]

the guy with the glasses hasn't done anything to show he's evil. the writers could just be messing with us. anyways, there's supposed to be a super powered killer in coming episodes.

[D-Bone]

The show was just okay. There were some good things and some not so good. First the good: Hiro---he's the show's best character so far and a talented writer could probably build another show just around his character. All his scenes were great. The twist ending was also great, when we find out the older brother is really the one who can fly, and pulls a Superman to save his little brother.
The bad: Ali Larter's stripper storyline, an evil twin power, and an annoying precocious tyke. This is probably one of the show's main weaknesses. Another is the fact that the whole thing seemed chopped up and edited out of order. The story felt rushed and it almost played like the trailer for the series rather than an a suspenseful drama.
The show's writers have a possible good hook/story arc with the mushroom cloud over the city painting, but some of the writing is weak. They may have to take a page from LOST and maybe kill off or write out some of the weaker characters. The first one to go is the stripper; the second may have to be the constantly jabbering Indian doctor or Basil Exposition.

[Twin2]

Good stuff. The blonde chick's power confuses the crap outta me though.

If I had to say it's potentially something involving a body double or alternate version of her (as someone said before evil) that can manifest itself in her body when she's not conscious.

[P.B.&Chocolate]

The show was a little blah to me till they got to the last segement and the preview trailer . I'm intrigued enough I will watch again. The single mom confused me like some of you.

[Tony Stark]

The show seems like Lost meets X-men. The pilot suffered a bit in that it had so many characters to introduce, it was a bit hard to figure out what's going on. But the show intrigued me enough to give it another chance.

[D-Bone]

The LOST writers were smart enough to introduce all their many characters within a closed environment, the island, in a dangerous and suspenseful situation, the post-plane crash, dealing with the injured and the exploding pieces of the remaining fuselage. It was great stuff, excellent writing and character introductions; truly a model of good dramatic writing.
I think HEROES would have been better served by bringing most of the characters together to New York, or at least better unifying their storylines. Everyone seemed to be in their own little mini movie. In addition, there are some interesting characters and some uninteresting and dull ones.
Honestly, I don't expect this show to survive mid-season replacement.
If NBC wanted to do a super hero show without tights and capes, they should have done a modified adaptation of the George Martin Wildcards novels.

[Fanticon]

I hate to sound like one of those stupid ads where they say "critics are calling it...'phenomenal'...because it was.:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :wow:

I guess it was like a mix between M Night's Unbreakable and a little bit X-men 1...just a whole mix of things...I want to see some supervillains that start to discover they have powers too...this show has a lot of potential...thats a great kinda mysterious start to a sort of original idea without admitting they stole from just about every important comic book storyline in history, however...the mere fact that its happening, we're getting a new start to something...er, um...new...is exciting to me. I dig this...lets hope it finds its audience after tonite.

[dusk soldier]

I wasn't aware time traveling meant you could teleport to New York from Japan.Well now you know. Remember you learn something new everyday.

[SuperBatman]

I really liked the start of this series a lot and I can't wait till the next Episode. I don't know what to say about the guy with glasses right now he could be a villian he could not be I guess we will have to wait and see.

My Favorite Character has to be Hiro Nakamura he is so hilarious. On another note like the rest of you I don't understand what the blonde mother powers do but my best guest is she has a murderous doppleganger. It looks like we get some more Super heros introuduced in the next episode.

[dusk soldier]

I think HEROES would have been better served by bringing most of the characters together to New York, or at least better unifying their storylines. Everyone seemed to be in their own little mini movie. In addition, there are some interesting characters and some uninteresting and dull ones.I think they plan to do that eventually. They haven't even introduced all of the characters yet.

I think they did a good enough job of unifying the storylines for what they had to work with so far. It's probably better to start the story off at a point where they're still discovering their powers, that way we can learn them alongside the heroes.

anyway, I liked it so far and the teasers make things to come look interesting.

[Wolfwood]

I wasn't aware time traveling meant you could teleport to New York from Japan.

He has two seperate powers, he can control time and space. So he can stop and slow things down and teleport. Pretty sure the two powers don't effect each other, like one is dependent on the other, but then I don't know crap about time traveling.

EDIT: Anyways, I thought the show was great and it laid down a lot of ground work for future stories. As many people have said, I love Hiro, he's such a lovable character, which is great since it seems most of the characters so far are going to have moody storylines.

[Lighthouse]

He has two seperate powers, he can control time and space. So he can stop and slow things down and teleport. Pretty sure the two powers don't effect each other, like one is dependent on the other, but then I don't know crap about time traveling.

EDIT: Anyways, I thought the show was great and it laid down a lot of ground work for future stories. As many people have said, I love Hiro, he's such a lovable character, which is great since it seems most of the characters so far are going to have moody storylines.
Thats why I was confused by his powers. It isn't just simply controling time. The whole train sequence confused the hell out of me. Time leaps foward and suddenly he's in New York? What? It just isn't clear to me how his powers worked yet.

[Tanin]

Hiro probably doesn't have full control of his powers. Maybe he was trying to transport but shifted time instead before he did.

Maybe he went into the future by mistake, and that is why he sees a comic about himself and what he has/will do.

[imaperson2]

Mom's powers=phoenix watered down a bit. haha

[rock_on]

I said this before in another post, this show has potential. The pilot was so-so and a bit choppy. So much so that the show couldn't even introduce all of the characters. However I understand that introducing and entire universe is difficult but necessary before furthering the story or the "good stuff" as I call it. I hope this show has good lasting power and will still be on in seasons to come.

[Wolfwood]

Hiro probably doesn't have full control of his powers. Maybe he was trying to transport but shifted time instead before he did.

That's what I would guess, or maybe time stopped cause he was instaneously moving his body from one point to another. Time traveling and such is complicated, that's why Doc Brown is the way he is. :)

[X-Ray]

I liked it a lot.

The woman with the crazy killer 2nd personality kind of reminds of Grimmer from the anime Monster. The guy was a softie but when he got into deep ****. He would black out and wake to find all his enemies dead.

[sc12een17am3]

i loved it, im totally hooked.

i hope they will eventually show someone with telekinesis. its my favorite superpower.

out of all the people shown so far, Niki has the most interesting and unique powers. so her reflection seems to have a mind of its own?

crosses fingers that this season wont get canceled after the first season like Surface, i was hooked on that series also lol

[Mike_D202]

You know what I find interesting? How they're finding comic books based on eachother. THATS the mystery plot I would like to find out.

[WildChild]

I liked this show,it has tons of potential.I hope it sticks around.

[the norminator]

i enjoyed the show i'll keep this whole season on my Tivo...thx=) norm

[RedIsNotBlue]

I liked it. I will definitely be watching the next episode. I usually don't stay to connected with these network tv shows because it always seems like they hold back stuff but this episode was pretty gritty. Panettiere's hott sexy ass was easily my favorite character. The least favorite character would have to be Larter's. Just found her annoying and didn't even see how she had powers because from the looks of it she was just going insane and ended up killing 2 guys...lol. I wonder if they will spin her into a villain. It would be awesome to see these characters expand into actual superheroes.

[War Party]

The guy with the glasses seemed pretty evil to me in the preview for upcoming episodes.. Maybe experimentation on people with special abilities.

[SouLeSS]

I really liked it..only person's power I don't get is the blonde's with the kid? Can somone explain?:huh:

I like to think of it as a "hulk" situation, on a bit of a smaller level.

[PriemRyeest]

i think it was a very good pilot!

The beginning was very slow but at the end...!
They'll have to stop doomsday :D

[Darthphere]

I liked it, enough so to add it to my very busy tv schedule.

[Bad Superman]

It was a good introduction. I'll watch next week. Not all heroes have been introduced. I still don't understand the mirror powers.

[kane9321]

claire - while i loved her..i didnt like how she was just "oh hum,I'm indestructable..big deal attiude". I didnt like that..but it was a great start to an awsome show

Hey Mohinder...shut the hell up you annoy me. I dont care about you trying to find special people

nikki- with her sexy azz pyscho split personality..I love you..But I hate your son..he's annoying as well. After her double killed those two thugs...i wanted her to go after the principal of the school..give my girl her money back..hehehehehehe. The big question is..can she control her power/curse or does it control her?..I'm soo liking her powers

[Chris Wallace]

It has promise. I'm looking forward to next week.

[mathhater]

I loved it. I'm really hooked after that first episode. :up: :up:

Hope it stays around awhile (or at the very least, can wrap up one entire story arc before it ends...)

[J-Bones]

I liked it so far. It deffinetly does have alot of potential. Like most people here, my favorite character was Hiro. Nikkis powers are still confusing to me though. I mean split personality doesn't really cut it as a power to me, but I'm sure her powers will be explained later on.

not sure if this has been discussed yet, but on IMDB they have a list of the episode titles:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0005123/filmoseries#tt0813715
1. Genesis
2. Don't look back
3. One Giant Leap
4. Come Together
5. Hiros
6. Nothing to lose
7. Better Halves (This one will explain Nikkis powers I bet, probably will have something to do with the two brothers as well)

[AnimeJune]

I actually liked Mohinder - he's kind of hot. :woot:
I LOVED how all the characters were mysteriously connected - especially with how the evil dude with the glasses is the cheerleader's dad.
I also LOVED how the Japanese dude is a total Trekkie and X-Men fan. I hope they put that to good use and don't make it too self-consciously referential. We deserve to have a nerd who knows the rules of Superherodom by heart!
The ending was a complete surprise to me - and that's a good thing. Good twist. I'm a little disappointed by the idea of the two brothers having the SAME power - I thought the point was for the younger brother to finally get a one-up on his older bro Nathan. But I am excited to see how differently they use their powers.

[Colossal Spoons]

I liked it, enough so to add it to my very busy tv schedule.

Haha, agreed. Once Smallville and Lost start up, I'll have something to watch all 7 days of the week. :D

[J-Bones]

I'm just worried about what to do when 24 comes back on the air.

Now there's something I'd like to see, Jack Bauer interogating the cheerleader...

[lars573]

I actually liked Mohinder - he's kind of hot. :woot:
I LOVED how all the characters were mysteriously connected - especially with how the evil dude with the glasses is the cheerleader's dad.
I also LOVED how the Japanese dude is a total Trekkie and X-Men fan. I hope they put that to good use and don't make it too self-consciously referential. We deserve to have a nerd who knows the rules of Superherodom by heart!
The ending was a complete surprise to me - and that's a good thing. Good twist. I'm a little disappointed by the idea of the two brothers having the SAME power - I thought the point was for the younger brother to finally get a one-up on his older bro Nathan. But I am excited to see how differently they use their powers.
If the writers are smart they'll do a Jack and David Knight thing with this sub plot. Where one brother loves it and is all about it, and the other brother hates it and wants nothing to do with it.

[Gold Samurai]

I have a feeling Hiro will be the "Hurley" of this show

I smiled when he said "suppaa hero" http://rangerboard.com/images/smilies/045.gif


Yata!!!!!


Supaa Hiro!" that was an obvious joke

[RedIsNotBlue]

You guys think we will ever see the whole mutant thing explored like they have done in X-Men?

[Captain Kirk]

:woot: Great pilot! I went into this show with mild interest, but now I'm hooked. Hiro is awesome and that he and his friend are Trekkies is a plus in my book. The strippers powers look very scary. I mean she totally butchered those mob guys!:wow: Panettiere is just too cute. If I had my way she would be cast as Kara for the Superman sequel. I am glad this is on mondays!

[huskerwebhead]

He has two seperate powers, he can control time and space. So he can stop and slow things down and teleport. Pretty sure the two powers don't effect each other, like one is dependent on the other, but then I don't know crap about time traveling.

It's all quantum physics. And I'm not going to pretend to be an expert in that field in any way. But from watching enough (drum roll please) Star Trek you hear the term thrown out there and used to explain so much...I almost feel like I know something about it. :) What was the first thing he said when Hiro stopped time....He ran over to his friend and said he "broke/stopped the space/time continum?" Something like that. The idea being that Space and Time are connected. Being able to control time and (key right here) "bend" space. A good example of bending Space would be to take a piece of paper and put a dot on one edge of the paper and another dot on the opposite edge of the paper. Now of course you can travel from one point directly to the other across the paper...but that takes time and you have to travel across space. Instead, bend the paper so that both dots touch. There...you've just bent space and time. It now takes no time and zero space to travel from one to the other. That's the idea. At least...that's how I've always understood it.

Now back to my book...."Everything I know I learned from Star Trek" :)

[Chris Wallace]

You guys think we will ever see the whole mutant thing explored like they have done in X-Men?
I kinda hope not; it borders on infringement.
I like to think of it as "X-Men" meets "Unbreakable".

[RedIsNotBlue]

I kinda hope not; it borders on infringement.
I like to think of it as "X-Men" meets "Unbreakable".

It all depends. We will see. I wonder if it will be more Fantastic Four or more X-Men.

[kytrigger]

I liked it so far. It deffinetly does have alot of potential. Like most people here, my favorite character was Hiro. Nikkis powers are still confusing to me though. I mean split personality doesn't really cut it as a power to me, but I'm sure her powers will be explained later on.

not sure if this has been discussed yet, but on IMDB they have a list of the episode titles:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0005123/filmoseries#tt0813715
1. Genesis
2. Don't look back
3. One Giant Leap
4. Come Together
5. Hiros
6. Nothing to lose
7. Better Halves (This one will explain Nikkis powers I bet, probably will have something to do with the two brothers as well)

Yeah, I see a lto fo people are confused about her powers on here (I am not quite sure myself) but I know it's not spplit personality, or that her evil self takes over her body. When she wakes up, and see teh murders and looks at herself in the mirror, her reflection is bloddy, but she isn't. To me, that shows that it's more than split personality or her just hulking out. It's a completely differnt version of her in teh mirror, and who knows, maybe an entirely different world that she can just contact through mirrors (vaguely like Constantine). It'll be interesting to see if she can develop the powers more and she can go into the mirrors as well.

[Chris Wallace]

It's a doppelganger; probably acts on her dark impulses. She was presumably unconscious when the other one whacked those guys, so maybe they can't both be active at the same time.

[Chris Wallace]

If the writers are smart they'll do a Jack and David Knight thing with this sub plot. Where one brother loves it and is all about it, and the other brother hates it and wants nothing to do with it.
I didn't think they'd both get it; I figured it'd be kinda like the daughters in "Dr. Dolittle"-the one who doesn't want it is the one who gets it.

[tecnowraith]

Well a friend of mine thinks the brtother who is the the politictian might have the power to steel other's powers cause of his selfish attitude.

[Chris Wallace]

That's make him the villain.

[Wolfwood]

5. Hiros

An episode dedicated to Hiro? :)


It's all quantum physics. And I'm not going to pretend to be an expert in that field in any way. But from watching enough (drum roll please) Star Trek you hear the term thrown out there and used to explain so much...I almost feel like I know something about it. :) What was the first thing he said when Hiro stopped time....He ran over to his friend and said he "broke/stopped the space/time continum?" Something like that. The idea being that Space and Time are connected. Being able to control time and (key right here) "bend" space. A good example of bending Space would be to take a piece of paper and put a dot on one edge of the paper and another dot on the opposite edge of the paper. Now of course you can travel from one point directly to the other across the paper...but that takes time and you have to travel across space. Instead, bend the paper so that both dots touch. There...you've just bent space and time. It now takes no time and zero space to travel from one to the other. That's the idea. At least...that's how I've always understood it.

Now back to my book...."Everything I know I learned from Star Trek" :)

Well that's clever enough for me to believe it. :up:

[blksuperman2]

It's all quantum physics. And I'm not going to pretend to be an expert in that field in any way. But from watching enough (drum roll please) Star Trek you hear the term thrown out there and used to explain so much...I almost feel like I know something about it. :) What was the first thing he said when Hiro stopped time....He ran over to his friend and said he "broke/stopped the space/time continum?" Something like that. The idea being that Space and Time are connected. Being able to control time and (key right here) "bend" space. A good example of bending Space would be to take a piece of paper and put a dot on one edge of the paper and another dot on the opposite edge of the paper. Now of course you can travel from one point directly to the other across the paper...but that takes time and you have to travel across space. Instead, bend the paper so that both dots touch. There...you've just bent space and time. It now takes no time and zero space to travel from one to the other. That's the idea. At least...that's how I've always understood it.

Now back to my book...."Everything I know I learned from Star Trek" :)

Are you Wesley Crusher? or maybe The Traveller??

[SuperBatman]

Just to let people know Heroes" 9.9/14 in the Rattings Department as was the 3rd Highest Show of the night.

[Killgore]

The pilot needed to be a full two-hours. It was over just as it was beginning.

[tecnowraith]

Pilot will repeat on SciFi this Friday at 7pm for its scifridays block.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

If the writers are smart they'll do a Jack and David Knight thing with this sub plot. Where one brother loves it and is all about it, and the other brother hates it and wants nothing to do with it.

That, or perhaps one of the brothers will use his powers for less-than-noble purpouses.

I would naturally think of the congressman ("I'm a shark"), but it might be more of a twist if it was the other brother (although he was set up to be a major player so I don't know if he'd be a douchebag/villain).

Overall, the show looks pretty good. I'll keep tuning in, methinks.

[Tempest19]

Just to let people know Heroes" 9.9/14 in the Rattings Department as was the 3rd Highest Show of the night.

Let's hope it stays that high. Because I definitely want this to be one of the "new breakthrough shows"

[Hiruu]

Well, I had to wathc MNF, but I've set my DVR to record it tonite at 8, if I can't catch it, but the opinions and reviews so far a really positive and encouraging for the genre. Let's hope they don't get campy, if this thing turns into a solid hit.

[huskerwebhead]

Are you Wesley Crusher? or maybe The Traveller??

I'm both....and neither! :wow:

[kane9321]

oh snaps..I got it nikki's power..maybe its like "the grey hulk''. as in power manifests under intense anger,emotions.But like the grey hulk ''the twin'' as smarts...its possible

[blksuperman2]

I'm both....and neither! :wow:

LOL, I knew it:woot:

[Threshold]

This show was horrible. It was the worst season premiere that I've seen in a looong time. Thank god 'Studio 60' was on afterwords.

[sc12een17am3]

Just to let people know Heroes" 9.9/14 in the Rattings Department as was the 3rd Highest Show of the night.

hopefully this means that it wont get canceld after its first season.

[Captain Kirk]

This show was horrible. It was the worst season premiere that I've seen in a looong time. Thank god 'Studio 60' was on afterwords.:whatever: You missed the boat!

[The Squirrel]

This show was horrible. It was the worst season premiere that I've seen in a looong time. Thank god 'Studio 60' was on afterwords.

???

[blksuperman2]

Just saw this by Michael Turner

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/148/HeroesSplash.jpg

[liesse00]

"The premiere of "Heroes" (8.8/13), however, led among total viewers and was the night's top show among adults 18-49."
From zap2it.com

It got the key demo, so thats good.

[Darthphere]

This show was horrible. It was the worst season premiere that I've seen in a looong time. Thank god 'Studio 60' was on afterwords.


Highly doubtful.

[Darthkush]

Good but not great. I'm not blown away by any of the actors but it's fairly well written. The only character I'm not really keen to learn more about is the cheerleader. She seems kind of dull. Also the Indian guy went overboard on exposition.

A good start but not an amazing start. It wants an Lost level audience but it ain't Lost level quality.

Another thing that will be interesting is how long the general public watches the show. Remember, this is, at it's core a nerd show and the general public loses interest in those mighty fast. We could all be head over heels in love with this thing in 5 episodes but come end of season we might also be trying to save it like we have for Angel, Roswell, etc. Something to think about.

[Babs Gordon]

i loved it. pure entertainment. the part where the nurse sees the tim sale paintings gave me chills like no show/movie has done in at least a year.

good. stuff.

[GNR]

Studio 60 is way too overrated.People at Jinxworld were trashing the hell out of Heroes while praising that show.

I mean come on,Perry's "awkward moment/witty/snappy" humor can only go so far.

[GNR]

Encore tonight!!!!!!!

[Lone Wolf]

The series has potential. The concept is solid. Hiro and Claire are the only characters that remotely interest me. And Suresh has potential if they can get his story going more. The intrigue in the story is there, but the connections seem almost too convienent. It had humor, action and twists. It's a decent start.

Overall, good episode. Looking forward to next week.

[Black Panther]

Larter's character is HOT. :o


That is all.

[Black Panther]

Also, what's the story with Suresh?

[Lone Wolf]

Also, what's the story with Suresh?
Suresh is the father of Mohinder who was studying genetic anomolies in human beings such as teleportation, flight & tissue regeneration before coming to America. He was killed while driving taxi cab. His son Mohinder is now looking to continue his work.

[Substance D]

mohinder will become the leader of the group, the person who has all the answers and unites them. just watch.

[Babs Gordon]

Good but not great. I'm not blown away by any of the actors but it's fairly well written. The only character I'm not really keen to learn more about is the cheerleader. She seems kind of dull. Also the Indian guy went overboard on exposition.

A good start but not an amazing start. It wants an Lost level audience but it ain't Lost level quality.

Another thing that will be interesting is how long the general public watches the show. Remember, this is, at it's core a nerd show and the general public loses interest in those mighty fast. We could all be head over heels in love with this thing in 5 episodes but come end of season we might also be trying to save it like we have for Angel, Roswell, etc. Something to think about.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see... this is, after all... the pilot. But everyone should remember that well produced nerd movies/shows that keep you gripped are some of the biggest money makers out there. Any smash nerd movie (SM, SM2, BB, X2, Matrix, Star Wars). The world LOVES nerd movies. Let's take nerd shows that ran for a long time on major networks: The X-Files, Star Trek: TNG, Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

This one definitely has potential and I am convinced that even non total-nerds can love it. As long as it keeps them excited. Nerds swing both ways... we nitpick more than the lay person and we also blindly adore more than the lay person.

We'll see, we'll see.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

I liked the show. It was good.:up: The part where Claire stuck her hand in the garbage disposal was awesome & gross.:D My mouth just dropped down. What's up with that other blonde chick's power? I think Ali Larter.. :o I kinda get it but yeah..Someone explain it better to me.

[Eddie Brock]

Lost level quality.
isn't that an oxymoron?

in the immortal words of Stewie (During Seth McFarlane's speech to the Harvard graduates):
"Don't make a TV show about an island if YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT. Otherwise, it's going to get SUCKY VERY QUICKLY."

[Mixairian]

I am certain the 143 was intentional (Not Hiro-intentional, writer-intentional). I suspect 143 is a significant number -- 11:43 was the time on the train when Hiro began his teleportation. Could be something or nothing -- too early to tell. I'd be interested if anyone caught any other 143s in the premier, or has an explanation.
That was rather perceptive of you.
I wasn't aware time traveling meant you could teleport to New York from Japan.
Bending or tearing through the time space continum means two things... One you can effect time.

If you view time as parallel to the universe.... OKay let me rephrase.

Think of a rubberband. Stretch it out, the left most side is point A in time and space, B on the same left side but the underside of the band is B. C is the far right. Think of it as bending A to touch B at the same time to be there right away. Or bending the band for A to touch C.

Now think of the band as a moving wheel. Instead of making one part of the circle touch the other, you have it move in one direction or the other or stop.

Thus time travel and spacial redirection are infact the same ability.

He has two seperate powers, he can control time and space. So he can stop and slow things down and teleport. Pretty sure the two powers don't effect each other, like one is dependent on the other, but then I don't know crap about time traveling.

EDIT: Anyways, I thought the show was great and it laid down a lot of ground work for future stories. As many people have said, I love Hiro, he's such a lovable character, which is great since it seems most of the characters so far are going to have moody storylines.


When I get home, I'll try to describe this better.

[blksuperman2]

That was rather perceptive of you.

Bending or tearing through the time space continum means two things... One you can effect time.

If you view time as parallel to the universe.... OKay let me rephrase.

Think of a rubberband. Stretch it out, the left most side is point A in time and space, B on the same left side but the underside of the band is B. C is the far right. Think of it as bending A to touch B at the same time to be there right away. Or bending the band for A to touch C.

Now think of the band as a moving wheel. Instead of making one part of the circle touch the other, you have it move in one direction or the other or stop.

Thus time travel and spacial redirection are infact the same ability.

Um.........................Wow!:wow:

[Wolfwood]

If there's one thing I can say about it Heroes, it's that I'm getting the best lesson about time and space that I've ever had.

[Eddie Brock]

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/05aebafef8.jpg (http://www.uploadfile.info)

[The Question]

With the brothers, here's how I see it:

The older brother is the one who can fly. The younger brother, the nurse, can't. His power is that he has some sort of psychic connection to his brother. His dreams about flying were actually his brother's experiences that he was tuning in to.

[Eddie Brock]

With the brothers, here's how I see it:

The older brother is the one who can fly. The younger brother, the nurse, can't. His power is that he has some sort of psychic connection to his brother. His dreams about flying were actually his brother's experiences that he was tuning in to.
exactly
couldn't have said it better myself

[Darthphere]

With the brothers, here's how I see it:

The older brother is the one who can fly. The younger brother, the nurse, can't. His power is that he has some sort of psychic connection to his brother. His dreams about flying were actually his brother's experiences that he was tuning in to.


Im hoping for the Power siphon theory myself.

[sc12een17am3]

lol i love how wikipedia had his power wrong for the longest time till the show aired. saying that the younger brother was the one who can fly

it just proves how wikipedia isnt a realiable source. i keep telling people that its just fan based but they still think its 100 percet correct.

[Eddie Brock]

lol i love how wikipedia had his power wrong for the longest time till the show aired. saying that the younger brother was the one who can fly

it just proves how wikipedia isnt a realiable source. i keep telling people that its just fan based but they still think its 100 percet correct.
well we all thought he could fly too
so how the hell was Wikipedia supposed to know?
that's called a "TWIST", ya know, something you don't expect

[The Question]

Im hoping for the Power siphon theory myself.

That might be cool, but it will probably be the psychic connection. Remember, the younger brother mentioned how he could always tell when his brother was in trouble.

[Anubis]

This is a really good show. Now I gotta decide which to tape, This or House.

[Mixairian]

Um.........................Wow!:wow:
What? :confused:
If there's one thing I can say about it Heroes, it's that I'm getting the best lesson about time and space that I've ever had.
Keep in mind most of what you hear about the time space continum is mostly theorhetical. Proving most of these theories at this juncture is next to impossible from what I understand of our current level of technological advancement.
With the brothers, here's how I see it:

The older brother is the one who can fly. The younger brother, the nurse, can't. His power is that he has some sort of psychic connection to his brother. His dreams about flying were actually his brother's experiences that he was tuning in to.
As I said in another topic. His ability, however they describe, will be vital to connecting the rest of the "Heroes". He already has had contact with three vital storyline characters.
That might be cool, but it will probably be the psychic connection. Remember, the younger brother mentioned how he could always tell when his brother was in trouble.
Thank you! You just reminded me the name for the younger brother's power. Empathy.

[sc12een17am3]

i know, im just saying. cause some people rely on wiki and think its the most reliable source. even though some info is just assumptions and not always correct. because of that twist on Heroes, that info end up being wrong. which i said made wiki wrong at that info. though im still glad that its no where as bad as IMBD.

but anyways this was off topic. so i should go back on topic lol

i like the idea of the younger brother being an empath. i hope its not only with his brother though, id like him to end up developing his abilities to be able to read others

[blksuperman2]

^ Wow = amazment of your time/space theory.

[Mixairian]

^ Wow = amazment of your time/space theory.
Not really mine. It's just a very dumb version of a popular theory. There are tons out there. It's all fun stuff.

[Mr. Credible]

i thought the show way okay, i think it'll get a lot better judging by the previews and the set ups.

we'll see what happens.

[deathshead2]

Ok so I watched my recored tape of heros. Well its pretty bad the show has almost no characters I like except for Hiro who should have his very own show by himself and his crazy subtitle adventures. But everyone I can really care less the older brother flying looked really dumb. I was really hoping the younger brother would die.But he didn't :( and we have a bad guy who lives with chearleader wolvirne. This is the only new show of the season I have watched so far and I hate that I didn't like. Hmm seems all show on the NBC,CBS,and ABC are crap. Well I still have BSG and smallville until there canned.

[Mr. Credible]

so what's ali larter's character's power?


that she's nuts?


and why do you think all these people are connected and what's with the comic book?

[WildCard]

I thought Studio 60 was a pretty damn good show^^^

[SpiderTracer]

You can stream the episode at http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/

Just thought you'd like to know. :)

[deathshead2]

Mabe the chessy plot twist is they all got power because the crazy ladies kid gave it to them from a comic book. Or it could be like that old fox kids show beetleborgs where they got powers from a comic. Or maybe they are living in a comic. The possiblitys are endless.

[amazingfantasy15]

This is a really good show. Now I gotta decide which to tape, This or House.

Isn't House on Tuesday? Heroes is on Monday. Don't see a problem.

[amazingfantasy15]

Just read an interview on IGN with the actor that plays Peter, he reveals what his power really is he's an empath, he can't fly.

[Mixairian]

so what's ali larter's character's power?


that she's nuts?


and why do you think all these people are connected and what's with the comic book?

It's the natural progression with multiple people wiht powers.

They meet up and band together. As for the Dreamer being connected. As I said, he knows the Painters g/f, he knows his brother and he's met the cabbie/professor. Obviously two of those are week but coincidences don't occur and stay that way. :)

You can stream the episode at http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/

Just thought you'd like to know. :)
You rule.
Just read an interview on IGN with the actor that plays Peter, he reveals what his power really is he's an empath, he can't fly.
WTF did I just say?! I said it in another topic! I think, check the other hero topic here. It was obvious. He's kind, caring, always giving and helping. Profession of male nurse, dead give away. :) He's the one to connect them all. :)

Edit: here, I'll quote myself:

Thank you! You just reminded me the name for the younger brother's power. Empathy.

[Threshold]

Highly doubtful.

Yeah? How would you know what premiere's I've seen lately. The show is complete crap. Crap dialogue, crap characters, crap show. I really hope it fails horribly this season.

[Mixairian]

Yeah? How would you know what premiere's I've seen lately. The show is complete crap. Crap dialogue, crap characters, crap show. I really hope it fails horribly this season.
I really hope you fail horribly---oops, to late.:)

[rock_on]

I would like to retract my most recent comment in this thread. I saw an earlier version of the pilot and after rewatching the pilot that was shown this week, I have to say that a lot of things were fixed. A lot of the things that I thought didn't work in the early version (for instance, playing "Road to Joy" by Bright Eyes) was rearranged and fixed for the episode shown. You can tell that time and effort was put into the final product (especially when compared to the earlier version) and I thought it was executed fairly well. I am especially psyched after watching the clip of the things to come.

[Black Panther]

Suresh is the father of Mohinder who was studying genetic anomolies in human beings such as teleportation, flight & tissue regeneration before coming to America. He was killed while driving taxi cab. His son Mohinder is now looking to continue his work.

Thanks, Bats. :up:

I loved it when Hiro teleported to New York, and then shouted YES!! :woot:

[Lone Wolf]

Thanks, Bats. :up:

I loved it when Hiro teleported to New York, and then shouted YES!! :woot:
Hiro was actually shouting out "I did it."

[FOG3]

I wasnt as impressed with Heroes as I was with Studio 60. I like the art prophecies idea and Hiro, but the characters and the show itself is just bland tv. Is there one laugh in the whole epsiode? Boring..

[Threshold]

I really hope you fail horribly---oops, to late.:)

Touche. :cwink:

[The Squirrel]

I don't know if this has been mentioned but did anyone else notice they cut out the fact that the painter cut off his hand.

It was shown in the trailer but they took it out for the show.

I guess they want him to keep both his hands.

[Magma_15]

What is the stripper's power exactly? Does she have a split personality with superhuman abilities or something? and I think the male nurse have telepathy or something seeing as though he said he knew that his brother got into a car accident before it happened.

[The Squirrel]

What is the stripper's power exactly? Does she have a split personality with superhuman abilities or something? and I think the male nurse have telepathy or something seeing as though he said he knew that his brother got into a car accident before it happened.

He never said it was a car accident.

The actor said that the younger brother has, empathy.

[Chris Wallace]

He never said it was a car accident.

The actor said that the younger brother has, empathy.I suspected that. That's why he was so convinced that HE was the one who could fly. But I wonder if it only applies to people he knows.

[PLAS]

great show, great writting

still needs to polish stuff up, but pretty impressive nonetheless

[tecnowraith]

He never said it was a car accident.

The actor said that the younger brother has, empathy.

I can't see that cause of the painting. If all the Paintings has and will come true, that would the male nures able to fly as well.

[PLAS]

I can't see that cause of the painting. If all the Paintings has and will come true, that would the male nures able to fly as well.
if you pay attention, it could be that he's falling

[Chris Wallace]

if you pay attention, it could be that he's falling
I was going to point that out.

[Hiruu]

Saw the encore, and I saw enough potential to make me stick around for a while, to see where this goes...didn't care for Hiro, as did many, nut I actually liked Nurse character the most...dunno if he has any abilities, but he was the most interesting to me.

[Threshold]

Do yourselves a favor and if you want a terrific ensemble show, check out Lost or Studio 60. Hell, even check out Prison Break or Kidnapped. They're not perfect, but their a hell of a lot better than this.

That said, the whole flying thing with the brothers was a neat cliffhanger and the preview for the next few episodes was single-handedly better than the entirety of the pilot.

[NoirMan82]

I think both brothers can fly, but the younger one probably is only able to mimic the powers of others. We shouldn't be too eager to learn Nikki's powers, because that takes away the mystery. It's creepy and I like how it was handled. i don't understand where people got confused with the show. It was pretty easy to follow.

[NoirMan82]

Do yourselves a favor and if you want a terrific ensemble show, check out Lost or Studio 60. Hell, even check out Prison Break or Kidnapped. They're not perfect, but their a hell of a lot better than this.

That said, the whole flying thing with the brothers was a neat cliffhanger and the preview for the next few episodes was single-handedly better than the entirety of the pilot.

I'm kinda sick of everyone comparing this show to all the others on TV. From what I saw, it's nothing like any of them. And I don't understand people who bash the show without explaining what was so bad about it. It's like people are being disagreable for the sake of it.

[NoirMan82]

I wasnt as impressed with Heroes as I was with Studio 60. I like the art prophecies idea and Hiro, but the characters and the show itself is just bland tv. Is there one laugh in the whole epsiode? Boring..

I thought the wacko mom and her blood loving dog were funny!

[Gold Samurai]

and why do you think all these people are connected and what's with the comic book?


my theory is that Hiro is a comic character drawn by someone who has the ability to make anything he wants by drawing it. Its like that old episode of "Amazing Stories"



or someone is channeling Hiro's life and drawing it out in comic form

[PLAS]

I have an even better idea:

watch the ****ing show

[Mixairian]

What is the stripper's power exactly? Does she have a split personality with superhuman abilities or something? and I think the male nurse have telepathy or something seeing as though he said he knew that his brother got into a car accident before it happened.

As for the Nurse's powers, scroll up a few posts.
I can't see that cause of the painting. If all the Paintings has and will come true, that would the male nures able to fly as well.
Who said the guy was flying in the picture? The first leap off a building looks exactly the same as flying for a split second (which is exactly what the picture captured).
if you pay attention, it could be that he's falling

I was going to point that out.
I think we were all gunning to leap on that one.
Do yourselves a favor and if you want a terrific ensemble show, check out Lost or Studio 60. Hell, even check out Prison Break or Kidnapped. They're not perfect, but their a hell of a lot better than this.

That said, the whole flying thing with the brothers was a neat cliffhanger and the preview for the next few episodes was single-handedly better than the entirety of the pilot.
So far everyone I've sent the online replay to was able to peg out earlier than halfway through the episode that that ending was going to occur. Things don't necessarily have to be surprising to be good. So, yeah, if you don't like the show, any particular reason you're still harping around? You want one of us to defend it for you? ^_^
I'm kinda sick of everyone comparing this show to all the others on TV. From what I saw, it's nothing like any of them. And I don't understand people who bash the show without explaining what was so bad about it. It's like people are being disagreable for the sake of it.
It's cool to not like something others do and continual let others know you don't like it... Didn'tcha know?
I have an even better idea:

watch the ****ing show
If all we did was watch and not theorize, message boards would have no purpose. :)

[PLAS]

If all we did was watch and not theorize, message boards would have no purpose. :)
what a world would that be.. huh?

[Mixairian]

what a world would that be.. huh?
A very boring place between work/class/drinking.

[theShape]

Yeah, Studio 60 was worthy of it's hype. Heroes was not.

Still, I enjoyed it for the most part, though I feel it's trying to be something that it's not. It'll only get worse from here on in.

[Dread]

I caught the rerun of the premire last night after fieldwork. I enjoyed it but it wasn't so good that it rocked my socks off, so I'll give it a few episodes and it'll either kick up and retain my interest or I may not care.

And yes, my favorite character was also Hiro, but not only because he was a sympathetic geek. It was because he was the only character who embraced the concept of gaining a super-power with a reaction that wasn't either horror, angst, or blase' (like the cheerleader, the stripper, and just about everyone else). It also twisted some genre expectations by so-far giving female characters the physical powers that male characters usually have (healing factor, a seemingly "unbeatable" transformative alter ego), and the male characters the less physical powers that the girls usually get (psychic stuff, flight, teleportation, etc). But it wasn't perfect and the series is already almost at critical max with the number of characters and it's expected to increase. Guess they're setting up some canon fodder.

The explaination for the burst of their powers, though, was a little generic and, yes, simular to mutants. "Oh, the human genome is just evolving randomly. Boo." But that doesn't make it bad.

So, I'll watch it. The question is, for how long? That depends on the next few episodes.

[cerealkiller182]

I was pretty impressed with Heroes. I didnt even know it was being hyped. i knew about it and saw commercials everyonce in awhile, but w/e. The Indian guy is a real cool character, I want to see more from him. I cant wait for more. It seems like it is going in a good direction.

SPOILER
Plus I love how the painter painted the kid falling and he just flips it over and thinks hes flying. Once he flipped it I knew it was gonna bite him in the ass.

[RockSP]

It was decent. I'll check it out the next few episodes.

Supposedly there is a black male character coming later who can phase through walls. He's rumored to be incarcerated. The stripper chick said something to her obviously not all white son about his father "not being in a position to help" which made me think that the prisoner is possibly his father. Either way, I hope the jailbird isn't the only black character they decide to have on the show...

[zanos]

Practically everyone's powers are lame. Where's the guy who can shoot laser beams from his eyes and the guy who has claws in his hands?

[PLAS]

Practically everyone's powers are lame. Where's the guy who can shoot laser beams from his eyes and the guy who has claws in his hands?
in the x-men, being cliche and all

[JTStarkiller]

I finally got around to watching the Pilot, and it was about what I expected. Eh.

Some of the storylines have potential, but the dialogue was just too obvious. Nobody said anything interesting or out of the ordinary.

I'll watch the next few before I decide if I'm gonna keep watching.

[Threshold]

I'd rather see the show 'Villains'. Just think of what that would be... :)

[cerealkiller182]

I'd rather see the show 'Villains'. Just think of what that would be... :)

i think you're onto something.

[AnimeJune]

I think the thing that will most differentiate Heroes from X-Men is the FATE element.

It is somewhat about genetic evolution, but there's also a mystical element, an element of destiny and fates being pre-ordained.

Plus, Nikki's power isn't scientific. It's magical. Magical mirror identities! Whoo!

[USMC]

Just watched the show...

I really liked it! It's a pilot, after all, which no one seems to be able to keep in mind (the ones bashing it). What pilot is all that great? Not many.

Hiro's cool, of course, and I really like Nikki alot... I hope she doesn't turn into a villain! I liked the twist at the end, too. The whole Emapath thing makes sense now, but while watching it, I just wasn't sure if they both could fly or what was going on...

If they should kill any one off right away, I say the Painter needs to go. So he can see the future, blech... so what? Get rid of him, or the "Heroes" will always have an idea of where to be to stop disasters. Kill him off.

If you think about it, Hiro is probably (right now) the most powerful of all of them. He can manipulate/control (maybe?) space and time! Just makes me think about the Infinity Gems...

Anyhow, great show, can't wait for more, it's a nice replacement to that other great show I miss, Commander-in-Chief. :)

And Studio 60 and Lost are great, too. :o

[The Incredible Hulk]

I think the thing that will most differentiate Heroes from X-Men is the FATE element.

It is somewhat about genetic evolution, but there's also a mystical element, an element of destiny and fates being pre-ordained.

Plus, Nikki's power isn't scientific. It's magical. Magical mirror identities! Whoo!

I dont think there's anything "magical" about her powers, and I dont think the show is going the route of magic. I think she's got some sociopathic alter-ego like My. Hyde or the Hulk. I think the thing you see in the mirror that looks like her, is just the other personality in her head, sort of like when Banner would see the Hulk in the mirror, but in her case (hopefully) it doesnt necessarily look like her since she doesn't know anything about it yet. Their gonna purposefully build up to finding exactly what the heck that thing is.

[GhostPoet]

Finally got to watch it. And you know what? It met my expectations. :) I really enjoyed it. It's easily one of my favorite series now!
I really enjoyed the characters and the powers for each of them. Had some great humor and some intensity. I'm a fan now. :)

[Anubis]

This show really reminds me of JMS's Rising Stars series.

[Anubis]

Oh man, what an ending.

[Darthphere]

Good episode.

[AnimeJune]

I was a little disappointed at first, because the series starts out slower than I had anticipated, but now in the second episode, with the brain-stealing mutant serial killer, it's starting to pick up!

[phoenixflight]

Okay, maybe I'm a little slow on the upkeep, however...

I was just watching the pilot episode and as Peter wakes up (tending to Simone's father's (Charles) bedside) he states to Simone that he has been having these intense dreams (where he sees himself flying off a building).

Then later in the season Peter has another dream sequence that directly involves Charles.

HERE IS THE BIG QUESTION...
Was Peter's first dream about flying brought on by Charles Deveaux? Was he actually tapping into Charles' powers??

[JPC4]

Yes, that's the popular assumption.

[fu manchu]

I'd rather see the show 'Villains'. Just think of what that would be... :)

...........probably what Volume 3 will be like :cwink:.