Fable 2 info

[WhatsHisFace]

http://www.gamespot.com/events/x06/story.html?sid=6158955&pid=927246&tag=updates;title;0

Molyneux apparently received two death threats from Fable fans when they realized that you couldn't plant an acorn and witness it growing into a mighty oak tree over time--he didn't enjoy the experience, and so we're told that this feature will definitely be in Fable 2.

:wow: :wow: :ninja:

[THWIP*]

http://www.gamespot.com/events/x06/story.html?sid=6158955&pid=927246&tag=updates;title;0



:wow: :wow: :ninja:


DEATH THREATS? :huh: :csad:

[Fran]

Now THOSE people are idiots!!!!

[WhatsHisFace]

Probably Kritic and Solid Snake.

[ProjectPat2280]

So any ideas on this "revolutionary feature"????

[WhatsHisFace]

No... but it's probably something to do with how the world reacts to you, since that's all Molyneux talks to the press about.

[The Last Meatbag]

"Molyneux said that one of the most magical moments of his career was when he recently saw the Fable 2 family features in action. Returning home from a lengthy quest, Molyneux found that his baby son had grown up in his absence and, as he approached the house, the boy swung the doors open and ran toward him with his arms outstretched. Molyneux also stated that your child's development will be determined to some extent by your own actions, almost as if he or she is trying to imitate you or gain your approval. So, if you play as an evil guy covered in tattoos, you might find that your son gets himself some ink the first chance he gets. As the bread-winner of your family, you'll be responsible for making sure that they always have enough money to eat, and your performance in this regard will also play a part in your child's development."


Awwwwwwwwww..

[XwolverineX]

I hope you can kill your kids.

[WhatsHisFace]

They had to take that out of the first one to avoid an AO rating. GTA ruined it for everyone. :(

[XwolverineX]

Damn. If only..

[StrainedEyes]

They had to take that out of the first one to avoid an AO rating. GTA ruined it for everyone. :(


The killing kids, or the sex thing?

GTA has never and will never have kids in them, Rockstar made that decision long ago. So Fable did not get rid of kid killing because of GTA.

And the sex thing, Hot Coffee didn't happen until summer 2005 and Fable came out Sept. 2004. So that had no effect on sex being taken out.

So I don't know what you're talking about.

[CM Punk]

Fable's kid killing was taken out because of idiot parents groups who began paying attention again thanks to GTA. Simple.

[SouLeSS]

I don't really want them to have 'kid killing' in it. Though 'spouse abuse' and 'child abuse' would be hillarious.

I'de literally just spend hours playing this game, and all I'de be doing was smacking my wife and kid around. Just for ****s and giggles.

[WhatsHisFace]

The killing kids, or the sex thing?

GTA has never and will never have kids in them, Rockstar made that decision long ago. So Fable did not get rid of kid killing because of GTA.

And the sex thing, Hot Coffee didn't happen until summer 2005 and Fable came out Sept. 2004. So that had no effect on sex being taken out.

So I don't know what you're talking about.
You daftly ignored the possibility that GTA made the media and the ESRB look harshly at violence in videogames, but that's a failure I can excuse.

[Alpha and Omega]

I don't if anybody's read this yet but:
here (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/736/736381p1.html)

I'm looking forward to the 2nd one, though it's a ways off.

[블라스]

Fable 2 > Oblivion, perhaps?

I seriously cannot wait for this.

[StrainedEyes]

You daftly ignored the possibility that GTA made the media and the ESRB look harshly at violence in videogames, but that's a failure I can excuse.


You can't blame GTA for everything. Yes GTA caused the mass-media to take notice of videogame violence. But that didn't stop the countless number of games that followed GTA from being just as-if not more violent. The media has never latched onto a game and bashed it for violence more-so than the GTA franchise. Fable pulling out child killing was not a result of GTA's media.
If Fable went through with child killing, if the publishers and everyone agreed with it and let it through (Which even without GTA's media, would have caused a problem. Very few games have child killing it them, it's an unwritten rule.) It would never have amounted to the media surrounding GTA.
Child killing was pulled because clearer heads prevailed, and with a game that already was missing alot of promised features, adding children would not help it's losses.
GTA caused a backlash at video game ratings, but few games have ever been called on it. We do not know for sure if they would have recieved an AO due to child killing. It all depended on the execution of it.

[CM Punk]

Fable 2 > Oblivion, perhaps?

I seriously cannot wait for this.
Probably, it just depends on what kind of experience you're after. IMO at least, Fable: The Lost Chapters > Oblivion, and maybe even equal to Morrowind. If you want total free roaming, then Oblivion is obviously going to appeal to you more. If you want a tighter, more linear but more "designed" experience (like me), Fable 2 will blow Oblivion out of the water. The best thing would be Morrowind II though, since that game got both RPG styles and blended them perfectly :(

[블라스]

Well, I still play the hell out of Fable 1, because it's a brilliant and fun game, so I expect the sequel to just give me an orgasm a minute.

[CM Punk]

The original, or Lost Chapters? Lost Chapters is so much better, they actually added content instead of just a few suits of armor or something :up:

[블라스]

Lost Chapters :up:
I love it so much.

[WhatsHisFace]

I still haven't played Lost Chapters.

[블라스]

20 bucks, BC, one of the best Xbox games ever, get it :mad: :(

[WhatsHisFace]

There are so many games I need to buy. :(

[Horrorfan]

Fable 2 > Oblivion, perhaps?

I seriously cannot wait for this.


Yes.

I prefered the original Fable to Oblivion to be honest.


Fable rawks and so will this :heart:

[WhatsHisFace]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159333.html

Molyneux also said that he was depending on typical Hollywood storytelling techniques for the setup of the game. Like the first Fable, the sequel will begin with the main character (who can be male or female), and the conflict will be derived from an "unspeakably evil" enemy character. Molyneux said that this was particularly important to fuel the player's hatred in the game and hinted at some sort of incident with your family as a mechanism to drive this.

[Hudson]

I'll so get Fable 3 too, if it's in a wild west-ish world... seems like this is more along the lines of the renaissance.

[WhatsHisFace]

I'll so get Fable 3 too, if it's in a wild west-ish world... seems like this is more along the lines of the renaissance.
Let me guess, when it's on the PC?

[DACMAN]

20 bucks, BC, one of the best Xbox games ever, get it :mad: :(
I just got it. I fricken loved the first. Easily one of the best games ever. Only RPG I've ever liked.

[MulligaN Stew]

Fable 2 > Oblivion, perhaps?

I seriously cannot wait for this.

The IVth one? I don't see it, but I'd hope so. The 1st Fable was great, and if they succeed with their respected improvements, I'll get it.

[Hudson]

Let me guess, when it's on the PC?
Nah dude, we got Fable on Xbox, need to get Gears and Dead rising and Mass effect too, soo I'm down with a 360 :o

[Trigger]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159333.html

'Bout time. Yay for females characters.

[Fenrir]

I only hope Molyneux delivers on the promises. That's all the assurance I need to know Fable 2 will be the greatest RPG ever.

[Substance D]

I only hope Molyneux delivers on the promises. That's all the assurance I need to know Fable 2 will be the greatest RPG ever.

No, Mass Effect will be better. Fable < All Bioware games

[Fenrir]

No, Mass Effect will be better. Fable < All Bioware games

Damn, Mass Effect skipped my mind. OK, if Fable 2 delivers, it will be one of the greatest RPGs ever made.

[GuntherHermann]

Molyneux > Bioware. I'm as big a Bioware fan as they come, but Molyneux is a talented, talented guy. Fable 1 was a game he had very little to do with, Fable 2 is a game he is working on hands on with, and that is going to make a huge difference in my mind. Probably not story wise, since Mass Effect has 3 30 hour games to tell it's story and Fable 2 has only 1 20 hour game, but pound for pound I honestly expect Fable 2 to end up as the better game. Even if they just take The Lost Chapters, give it a new coat of paint and some more length, it's going to be an incredible game, and we already know they won't just do that.

[Clerk]

Probably Kritic and Solid Snake.


Bwhahahahaha. :woot:

[블라스]

Why Fable 2 will completely obliterate every other game ever. (http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1470/Fable-2/p1/)

[TrailerCues]

Why Fable 2 will completely obliterate every other game ever. (http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1470/Fable-2/p1/)

The whole example of acorns turning into oak trees has evolved, and this it will certainly be part of the final game; making Peter happy for the fact that he won’t receive any more death threats…

I will always find it hilarious he got death threats for such a silly little thing lol

[Substance D]

I reckon it will be a cute, fun sandboxy game to play, but will lack a sophisticated and engaging story just like the first one. Molyneux makes games. Bioware creates deep, involving worlds with memorable, 3 dimensional characters, stories that rival the best novels and movies, and great, openended gameplay to boot. The first Fable was all hype, and didn't do anything that the first Baldur's Gate didn't do. Sure, you can effect the world, and choose your path, but the only difference is that in a Bioware game, you give a **** about that world and it's inhabitants.

[TrailerCues]

Your children will also be fully responsive to you. How responsive? If you are poor, they will be skinny and ask you to give them food. How cruel you can be? You can eat in front of them without giving a single piece of what you’re eating and they will beg for a bite.

cruel lol

[TrailerCues]

Hmm no mention about the multiplayer stuff

Last, but not least, comes a feature Peter said it will be the one we game editors will write the most about and you, the gamers, will talk about it the most. This is the feature for which people will remember Fable 2, a feature the world of gaming will be surprised about; this is the “super secret” feature…. Unfortunately, we’ll have to wait until next year for Molyneux and company to reveal what this feature is.
He gave one hint though; this secret feature is in some way related to the “unconditional love” feature explained above in the way that it is all about “emotions” Molyneux wants you to experience when playing Fable 2.

What can be so secret about this super secret feature ? When the characters do it are they actually going to let the players see them do it or something ? Thats the only thing I can think of if its part of the "unconditional love" thing. If its something like that they better be ready to face the same problems GTASA faced

[Hudson]

controllable children?

[블라스]

They've said that they will not show any sex scenes, so that's not it.

[TrailerCues]

well Im still curious as to why the multiplayer talk seems to be avoided :o

[WhatsHisFace]

well Im still curious as to why the multiplayer talk seems to be avoided :o
They'll probably start talking about it at E3 2009.

[ProjectPat2280]

Finally, some new info is released:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/771/771030p1.html


There is also a video where Peter Molyneux talks about some of the new features to be seen in Fable 2. This game is gonna be epic.

[Kritish]

Can you still have sex with people like in the first? I don't see why It would be taken out, you never saw anything happen.

[ProjectPat2280]

Can you still have sex with people like in the first? I don't see why It would be taken out, you never saw anything happen.

Its an even bigger role in Fable 2, as you can have a real family(with kids). If you choose to create a female character you can even get pregnant. The game is gonna be no less than epic.

[Speedball]

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2669
I guess no one else has seen these videos about the dog?
Looks impressive, even though it's just rough footage.

[ProjectPat2280]

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2669
I guess no one else has seen these videos about the dog?
Looks impressive, even though it's just rough footage.

Yea i saw that video on IGN, i think thats gonna be a pretty cool aspect to the game.

[Capt Throbberson]

Its an even bigger role in Fable 2, as you can have a real family(with kids). If you choose to create a female character you can even get pregnant. The game is gonna be no less than epic.

I wonder if a monster smacks you up while you're pregnant your kid will come out retarded.

[Kritish]

Its an even bigger role in Fable 2, as you can have a real family(with kids). If you choose to create a female character you can even get pregnant. The game is gonna be no less than epic.

What if you play as a woman? Do you spend time prego?

[ProjectPat2280]

What if you play as a woman? Do you spend time prego?


Well, yes, yes you do.
Molyneux said he thought this was one of the first games that could feature a pregnant lead character.

[Kritish]

Well, yes, yes you do.
Molyneux said he thought this was one of the first games that could feature a pregnant lead character.

That's sort of cool, you could run around killing monsters as your pregnant.:woot:

Now, here's the real question. Can you have sex with your children? Creepy question but I just had to ask.

[GL1]

controllable children?

Exactly, pure science fiction, here, guys...

[Speedball]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/803/803839p1.html

[Silvermoth]

It would be nice if you could have an option to choose your gender.

And I hope Molyneaux keeps his promises, it sounds awesome

[XtromaniaK]

The combat sounds awesome.

[ProjectPat2280]

It would be nice if you could have an option to choose your gender.

And I hope Molyneaux keeps his promises, it sounds awesome

Um, i think you can decide if you want to be a male or female.

I think Molyneaux is no less than a genius and I'm sure hell deliver on everything he promises for this game.

[WhatsHisFace]

I don't think you can go on quests while you're pregnant actually.

[Speedball]

I don't think you can go on quests while you're pregnant actually.
If Xena can do it, then so can your character.

[WhatsHisFace]

Xena was pregnant? I always thought she was a lesbian. Stopped following the show after Hercules was canceled. Who was the lucky guy, Bruce Campbell?

[Speedball]

Xena was pregnant? I always thought she was a lesbian. Stopped following the show after Hercules was canceled. Who was the lucky guy, Bruce Campbell?
She never was a lesbian.:whatever:
Eve was the daughter of Xena and the God of Light.
She's featured heavily in the last season.

[spideyboy_1111]

i wonder if you can still be gay or bi in this game, i thought that was fun

[WhatsHisFace]

She never was a lesbian.:whatever:
Eve was the daughter of Xena and the God of Light.
She's featured heavily in the last season.
Dude, when Xena "died" and Bruce Campbell was a seance(sp?), Xena MADE OUT with her side-kick. Pretty sure Lucy Lawless is a lesbian in real-life too...

[Speedball]

Dude, when Xena "died" and Bruce Campbell was a seance(sp?), Xena MADE OUT with her side-kick. Pretty sure Lucy Lawless is a lesbian in real-life too...
Sure...that explains the three kids she's had, two with the shows producer and her husband, Rob Tapert.
And so what if she was? Lesbians CAN get pregnant, ya know?

[WhatsHisFace]

Sure...that explains the three kids she's had, two with the shows producer and her husband, Rob Tapert.
And so what if she was? Lesbians CAN get pregnant, ya know?
Hussy.

[WhatsHisFace]

Molyneux says the game is free-roaming, completely A.I. driven, content complete and that from now on, it's all polishing things up. He says the release date is Fall 2008.

[Silvermoth]

I hope its harder and has an open ended ending this time around

[XtromaniaK]

Hmm.. I hope they make it longer than the first.. much longer. Otherwise, couldn't be happier.

[Super Kal]

this looks great... but the dog almost kills it for me.

[WhatsHisFace]

Hmm.. I hope they make it longer than the first.. much longer. Otherwise, couldn't be happier.
Molyneux said it would be 50 hours. That may mean it ends up being 30 hours, but that's still a really long game.

[Superman1314]

Fable 2 can't come out soon enough.

[Super Kal]

why do they gotta incorporate so much about love?

that has potential to be a hindrance instead of help...

[WhatsHisFace]

why do they gotta incorporate so much about love?

that has potential to be a hindrance instead of help...
Molyneux wants to get a strong connection between this game and it's players. In Fable 1, you witness the death of your father, mother, you witness your village burned to the ground, just about every bad thing a person can see.

However, since there were no real connections to the characters, it didn't mean an awful lot. At the end of the game, when you had the choice to kill your sister and get a sword, or let her live, I killed my sister. I cared more about getting the cool weapon than the life of my sister.

That whole "shallowness" the game had, in a game where being "good" and "evil" is supposed to mean so much, ended up falling flat.

This time around, morality and values are supposed to be reinforced by the game in a much stronger way. That's why it's so important.

Also, it seems games with the most emotional value are held in high regard by gamers worldwide. Final Fantasy 7, Shenmue, Zelda: Ocarina of Time and others are timeless classics in the games industry and Molyneux may be striving for that goal as well.

[Super Kal]

I'm not saying it's bad, but it does have the possibility to hurt more than help... especially with all those obsessive gamers out there... and pet lovers like myself...


but personally, I hate the thought of the mini-map being gone. I get lost very easily in games, and the last thing I want to do is be in an escort mission throughout the entire game.

[Kritish]

I hope the terroristic threats will be worth the years of sodomy that they'll endure in prison.

[WhatsHisFace]

I'm not saying it's bad, but it does have the possibility to hurt more than help... especially with all those obsessive gamers out there... and pet lovers like myself...


but personally, I hate the thought of the mini-map being gone. I get lost very easily in games, and the last thing I want to do is be in an escort mission throughout the entire game.
I'm not worried about the dog so much, as Molyneux has proven with both Black and White games that a creature can add a lot of good qualities to a game without becoming an annoyance in the process.

However, I'm worried about the lack of a mini-map as well. Hopefully there's at least a "map screen" somewhere in a menu. I'm playing through the mapless "Overlord" right now and I must confess that not knowing where you're headed in the grand scheme of things is very annoying.

[Devil May Cry]

http://www.popcultureshock.com/index.php?p=42463

I love this man. He makes me believe every time. :o

[WhatsHisFace]

I would have to say that there's something wrong with Peter in that video. He talks like he spent a lot of time beating himself up and he never fully recovered. He has none of the flair he had in the past. He has excitement, but it seems bridled.

[Zen]

I would have to say that there's something wrong with Peter in that video. He talks like he spent a lot of time beating himself up and he never fully recovered. He has none of the flair he had in the past. He has excitement, but it seems bridled.

you say this like its a bad thing.

i think his stance now is more believeable. he seems realistic now. his past interviews were often times hard to believe for me... and now the man has made me believe more then ever hes putting his heart and soul into this game. maybe he is a little defeated by fable 1,

dammit... he should feel that way, the game would have been the best damn thing ever if half of the crap he poured out of his ass about the game made it to gold. i was behind that game with a vengeance and i was sorely disappointed... granted its a great game, but its not the fable we were expecting.

this may be a bit of a reach but i know i often did my most fervent and motivated work when i had something to prove. lets hope the sting of the first game stays with him in a productive and motivated way. though his lucid plea as to why he's in the industry could have been left at the door.

and in a way hes still making grandiose claims... the types of feelings hes trying to instill are going to be difficult, if he can pull that off i can see this game being an heirloom. don't rush it peter, and remember how much you smoked the pole on the last game so you can do it better this time...

the melancholy musical nonsense in the background doesn't help either,

[uchiha_itachi]

ive really got into fable 1, i got it 2 days ago and ive played it pretty much all the time, so i cant wait for this. specially since its aprrently comming out the end of next month. hopefully the time thing will be better, im like age 39 but only 16 days have past in the game lol wth

[spideyboy_1111]

i doubt its coming at the end of next month... we've only seen a teaser trailer so far

[uchiha_itachi]

odd... play.com has a date for it at the end of next month. and at work we got an email yesterday from head office with all the realese dates of games and fable 2 was also at the end of next month

[spideyboy_1111]

very odd indeed

[WhatsHisFace]

This game won't be out until this time next year. I'm sorry, but Play.com is an awful source.

[uchiha_itachi]

wonder were the realese date from work came from then..

[spideyboy_1111]

probably from another website... with false info

[WhatsHisFace]

Or they just made something up back at the Xbox360's launch (or when Shane Kim announced it) and never updated their website.

[uchiha_itachi]

meh i dont know. you would think they would get there info straight from the company or microsoft...stupid blockbuster ¬_¬

[WhatsHisFace]

You're much better off going to a website like gamespot.com for your game info. Also, following the game's development can help you make predictions of your own.

[uchiha_itachi]

yeah i kno lol i was living in faulse hope cos i just played the first one and really liked it

[XtromaniaK]

It'll probably be out next year around this time. I believe, anyways. The first Fable is great, though. That I'll agree to.

[ProjectPat2280]

ive really got into fable 1, i got it 2 days ago and ive played it pretty much all the time, so i cant wait for this. specially since its aprrently comming out the end of next month. hopefully the time thing will be better, im like age 39 but only 16 days have past in the game lol wth

You been using alot of magic? If you rely heavily on magic use you'll age faster.

[ProjectPat2280]

It'll probably be out next year around this time. I believe, anyways. The first Fable is great, though. That I'll agree to.

I hope. I was afraid this game was gonna slip into 09 sometime.

[uchiha_itachi]

You been using alot of magic? If you rely heavily on magic use you'll age faster.

i use lightning alot. i mean stil though its not tht great that you would age 19 years in 16 days, im just hoping this game has a way to show passing time. like when your wife gets pregnant i really hope you dont go away for 4 days then come back and by then shes had the baby.

[WhatsHisFace]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=88601

Here's some interesting info on Fable 2, including a confirmation of a Fall 2008 release date.

[XtromaniaK]

Can't wait for it, I'm stoked.

[WhatsHisFace]

I wish it wasn't launching right next to Fallout 3, as two huge RPGs releasing next to each other is game time-management hell.

[XtromaniaK]

Yeah.. actually, many good games, in general, releasing right next to each other can signal the end of your days on the outside.

[WhatsHisFace]

With the games I need to be playing Christmas Break, I doubt I'll actually get to see any of my long-lost friends.

[WhatsHisFace]

Molyneux will unveil the two other new features at GDC next march.

[XtromaniaK]

Yayyy!! I can't wait, I'm stoked for this game. The video diaries so far have been all pretty interesting, and the features I've seen have been pleasantly surprising.

[WhatsHisFace]

I thought the combat demonstration was great. I like how you can interact with objects in the world (swing from chandeliers, combat moves differ if you're close to a wall) and now that I've played Assassin's Creed, I'm sold on one-button combat.

The demonstration of the dog went over well. It seems like it will be a pretty suitable side-kick and hopefully not as suicidal as Dom Santiago in Gears of War.

I wish they'd show more of the gameworld, as it's supposed to be one big world this time... but evidently they can't for spoiler purposes. :confused:

[XtromaniaK]

Yeah, that's the part I'm worried about. What with most games bordering on only about 10 hours of actual game content and world, I hope Fable 2 doesn't go the same route. I'm hoping for at least 15 solid hours, but 20 would probably be preferrable. I'm confident that Lionhead's going to deliver a fantastic game this time around.

Sans Molyneux's indominable egomania.

[WhatsHisFace]

Fable really didn't do such a good job with side-quests. They were shorter than the loading times it took to access them and they weren't terribly rewarding. Hopefully they either make the sidequests kick ass, or they just screw them altogether and really hammer in the main quest Zelda-style.

[DACMAN]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=88601

Here's some interesting info on Fable 2, including a confirmation of a Fall 2008 release date.

Good find!:up:

[DACMAN]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=88601

Here's some interesting info on Fable 2, including a confirmation of a Fall 2008 release date.

Good find!:up: Finally a release date.

[WhatsHisFace]

I'm not sure if this will have online co-op, but if it does, we NEED to use it.

[spideyboy_1111]

Co-op would be alright... but id love an online world.. where you can meet up with people online in the world.. or visit there house and family.. (or kill there family)

[uchiha_itachi]

^ tht would be cool, but annoying. you know you would get people who would always kill peoples familys and just do tht and nothing else

[WhatsHisFace]

Co-op would be alright... but id love an online world.. where you can meet up with people online in the world.. or visit there house and family.. (or kill there family)

:dry:

[Flash Facts]

Molyneux will unveil the two other new features at GDC next march.

source?

[블라스]

I want Tyrone Power-style swordfighting!

[WhatsHisFace]

source?

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8298&Itemid=2

[Flash Facts]

Fable 2 video dairy 4 now available link (http://www.lionhead.com/diaries/)

[uchiha_itachi]

awesome :D

[XtromaniaK]

I'm sure it will be awesome. :heart:

[spideyboy_1111]

i didnt see any news... :(

[uchiha_itachi]

it was just a small update, nothing major.

[Flash Facts]

It was a video showing off some of the environment of Fable 2. It confirmed that there will be dynamic regions, seasons, the hero can now sprint, there is a fast travel system, there was a glimpse of the interface, NPCs have names, it seems to have a context sensitive HUD, free roaming was confirmed and the ability to hop fences was shown. Thats all I can think of right now but there is probably more.

[Super Kal]

sounds good to me... just wish the mini-map was still there

[XtromaniaK]

The game looks utterly beautiful. And the designer, I think Mark, was right about most next-gen games. They tend to have a very washed out and dull look to them, nothing seems vibrant, etc. (Killzone-syndrome) But that video pretty much confirmed that Fable 2 is going to look just as beautiful as the first.

Zenien can suck on this. :cmad:

[Where's WHF? Usually he'd be all over this as well. Him and I were the only two people that have staunchly defended the original Fable's greatness from the get-go.]

[WhatsHisFace]

The hero could always sprint!

[Ghostvirus]

When is it coming out again? This spring?

[Flash Facts]

The hero could always sprint!

Not as fast as he/she does now.

When is it coming out again? This spring?

Fall

[WhatsHisFace]

I need to see this video. The PC I'm currently on... sucks.

[XtromaniaK]

I need to see this video. The PC I'm currently on... sucks.

You do. The game looks amazing, even if it's still 8-9 months away from going gold.

[WhatsHisFace]

They better have trees growing from acorns, or poor Peter Molyneux might finally meet his end at the hands of a crazy fan. :(

[Ghostvirus]

LOL. I still can't believe he got death threats from that. What the hell is wrong with some people.

[WhatsHisFace]

I think some Nintendo fans were about to Molotov-Cocktail Microsoft when they bought Rare.

[XtromaniaK]

LOL. I still can't believe he got death threats from that. What the hell is wrong with some people.

Because the growing of acorns is essential to our enjoyment of next-gen gaming! Pfft. :whatever:

WHF: Yeah, I think almost every Nintendo fanboy in existence had a near-death experience upon that announcement.

[WhatsHisFace]

Growing trees was done pretty well in 2001's Black and White. Of course, forests were hard to pull off on last-gen consoles. Only a few games got them right.

[XtromaniaK]

Even trees on this-gen consoles are rough around the edges in many cases. Much better than, say, your average MMO trees (You know, the four-branch X trees), but some still were... meh. I didn't particularly like Oblivion's. They looked nice, but were sort of dull and lifeless.

[WhatsHisFace]

I thought Mass Effect, Bioshock, Halo 3... heck, even Ninja Gaiden 1 had great trees.

Fable's trees were actually quite good. The only problem was that they didn't grow. :dry:

[XtromaniaK]

Fable, I think, is one of the few last-gen games that my eyes don't have to adjust to when playing. The use of color and effects was amazing in that game.

But the non-growing trees definitely was a disappointment, it broke the game for me.. :dry: :o

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah, just think of all the moments in the game that would have been better if trees grew at a realistic rate.

[uchiha_itachi]

i hope they find a way to pass time better.

[XtromaniaK]

Yeah, just think of all the moments in the game that would have been better if trees grew at a realistic rate.

The first thing I'd do as I started the game up would be planting seeds all over the grounds of the arena. That way, once I actually can fight in the arena, it'll be overgrown with trees. Interactive forest battles ftw.

[WhatsHisFace]

Popped in Fable the other day to see if it was as good looking as I remember it being.

It was. It's a darn good looking game. Very well designed game as well, but I hate how after ten minutes of combat you are covered in ugly scars, and after two hours in the game you are a 70 year old man.

[Flash Facts]

Popped in Fable the other day to see if it was as good looking as I remember it being.

It was. It's a darn good looking game. Very well designed game as well, but I hate how after ten minutes of combat you are covered in ugly scars, and after two hours in the game you are a 70 year old man.

There is an easy way to prevent this, it is called the Y button. :cwink:

[uchiha_itachi]

Popped in Fable the other day to see if it was as good looking as I remember it being.

It was. It's a darn good looking game. Very well designed game as well, but I hate how after ten minutes of combat you are covered in ugly scars, and after two hours in the game you are a 70 year old man.

thts another thing i want them to implement better, the scarring. but obviously have a way to heal them up properly..

but if theres a scar you want to keep, it would be nice to have the option to do so.

[XtromaniaK]

thts another thing i want them to implement better, the scarring. but obviously have a way to heal them up properly..

but if theres a scar you want to keep, it would be nice to have the option to do so.

The scarring system instead is now linked with the "death" system. The longer you stay on the ground after your health has drained to zero, the worse the scars are that you accumulate. It seems like a smart way of punishing players for dying without making them go through a whole hour of content over again.

I do hope they fixed the aging system, however. I would hope that your age might cap off at mid 30s - 40s by the end of the game. Instead of being a wrinkled prune halfway through.

[Super Kal]

so... the longer you're on the ground, the more scars you get? :huh:

[uchiha_itachi]

its probably the worse they look. like if you get up straight away they wont appear, or if you stay down ( because your more injured) they will be deeper and more noticeable. i just hope i can get a cool one one my guys eye, like in did in fable one.

about the prune looking thing, you look older the more you used magic.

one other thing i hope they sort out, is the way you look if your good or if your evil. imo i looked more evil when i was just in the middle of being good or evil, and just looked old..

out of interest, what characteristics would you guys want your characters to show when they are evil or good?

[XtromaniaK]

Yes, the longer you're getting beat on while on the ground, the more the severity of scarring intensifies. It makes it so there's a draw to being terribly mortal, but so those who want to swing a sword around don't end up looking like pincushions 10 minutes into playing.

[WhatsHisFace]

I just don't want to be a scarred old man a few hours in. I don't care if after 100 hours of Achievement grinding I look like hell, but when I'm still enjoying the experience of the game, I want to look like an actual person.

[Purple Prancer]

I WANT TO REMAIN SEXY FOREVER! :cmad:

[WhatsHisFace]

I DEMAND THAT BE A FEATURE!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: !!!!!!!

[Ghostvirus]

Forget growing trees. What I want is a 100% open ended destructible environment.

[XtromaniaK]

Indeed. A more destructible, or rather more influenceable in general, environment this time around would be great to see. Though, I'm impressed with the direction they're taking thus far, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had some destructibility added in.

[spideyboy_1111]

destructibility would be cool.. and you have the choice to repair.. or leave in ruin

[XtromaniaK]

I really do hope that choice affects the world as much as they suggested it might in earlier previews. Like, help the traders and a little settlement/village might spring up later in the game... or the kill all the traders and the area they set up camp might become overgrown later.

Now, THAT would be fantastic.

[DACMAN]

Yeah, just think of all the moments in the game that would have been better if trees grew at a realistic rate.
People spend hundreds of hours, and millions of dollars to build these next gen games and consoles and one of the things people want is to see the grass grow? Not to mention spending hundreds of dollars as a consumer to get the game and console, when all they have to do is LOOK OUT THE WINDOW!

[DACMAN]

Forget growing trees. What I want is a 100% open ended destructible environment.
I want to see dynamic conversation gameplay. That and realistic sword play. If I hit someone I want to see an arm fall off. Not him falling back and going "arg!"...like I hit him with a stick.

[XtromaniaK]

People spend hundreds of hours, and millions of dollars to build these next gen games and consoles and one of the things people want is to see the grass grow? Not to mention spending hundreds of dollars as a consumer to get the game and console, when all they have to do is LOOK OUT THE WINDOW!

Agreed. Realistic growing trees is a completely useless feature anyhow. I want to see the long-promised feature of being about to wield obvious influence on the course of the in-game world by simple decisions you make as you play. The dynamic conversation sounds cool, as well. Though, I don't think the full extent of swordplay will make it into this title. Too much gore, me thinks.

[uchiha_itachi]

i think somthing like fable needs an open ended choice system. for example you come across two paths, which ever one you take somthing completly different will happen.

also it would be nice if the game could sort of anticipate what sort of story your making for yourself.

like in fable one, i wanted to be a big hero who then starts becomming evil when he finds that bandit who has his sister and cut out her eyes, and he kills him ruthlessly and that puts him on the path of evil, only to be saved from it once hes completly turned at the end by his sister and mother ( if she was alive i cant remeber:huh: )

well...somthing to that effect, i think that gives the basic idea anyway.

[WhatsHisFace]

I really do hope that choice affects the world as much as they suggested it might in earlier previews. Like, help the traders and a little settlement/village might spring up later in the game... or the kill all the traders and the area they set up camp might become overgrown later.

Now, THAT would be fantastic.

Oblivion had a quest like that. I'm still waiting for that town to sprout up though.

Fallout 3 apparently has an entire town you can hit with a warhead to find a new town as well.

[Ghostvirus]

Oblivion had a quest like that. I'm still waiting for that town to sprout up though.

Fallout 3 apparently has an entire town you can hit with a warhead to find a new town as well.

If you are talking about Kvatch. Kvatch doesn't build back up.

[Flash Facts]

PM has already mentioned a situation like that. The example he gave was finding some traders in the woods and if you spend alot of money in their camp eventually it will become a town but if you just kill all the traders that town will never be settled.

[Dangerous]

Can't wait for this game, but guess am gonna have to.

[WhatsHisFace]

If you are talking about Kvatch. Kvatch doesn't build back up.

Nah, there's some town that couldn't be developed because of Goblins in the nearby caves. Clear out the caves, and the settlers are supposed to build up a town.

[XtromaniaK]

Nah, there's some town that couldn't be developed because of Goblins in the nearby caves. Clear out the caves, and the settlers are supposed to build up a town.

Ah, yeah, I know what you were talking about. It was some random ass camp out in the middle of the forest, that was caught between two warring Goblin tribes. I know that one.

[WhatsHisFace]

I did that mission well after I completed the main quest... so I don't really have much to do to make the time pass.

[XtromaniaK]

Meh, Oblivion is dead to me. I can't play it anymore without just playing the expansion.

[WhatsHisFace]

Never got the Golddigging Isles. I'll get around to it.

[XtromaniaK]

Shivering Isles improved most of what was wrong with the game. Added variety, color, atmosphere. I thought it was much better than the original game, by far. It's how Oblivion should've been on first release.

[WhatsHisFace]

Hopefully I can pick it up for 400 MSP after Fallout 3. :D :(

[Lord of Flies]

I don't know if it will be that cheap, it might be by that time, though. Try your luck.

[WhatsHisFace]

If not, I can wait until the next console generation when Xbox360 titles will cost $5.00 and there's the inevitable drought until Banjo Kazooie 3 emerges.

[Lord of Flies]

You really don't think BK3 will be around until next generation? That's an interesting take on the situation.

[WhatsHisFace]

I was going to say Too Human but then I remembered I saw a positive preview of it earlier today. Banjo Kazooie 3 will likely hit this year. It went under full-blown development nearly two years ago after some preliminary work that had been going on for some time. From what I hear, the unannounced Perfect Dark 2 is supposed to be coming along nicely as well. Hopefully it's textures are as good as PDZ's.

[Lord of Flies]

If PD2 is under development right now, I would expect it to come out nearer the end of Xbox 360's life span. Hopefully MS doesn't abandon the 360 like they did with the Xbox.

[Ghostvirus]

Nah, there's some town that couldn't be developed because of Goblins in the nearby caves. Clear out the caves, and the settlers are supposed to build up a town.

Oh snap! Is the town worth the effort?

[Lord of Flies]

They don't build a town. It's one of the many dead-end quests that Bethesda filled Oblivion with.

[WhatsHisFace]

Oh snap! Is the town worth the effort?

I would hope so. I just haven't had it spring up yet. Gotta play the game more.

[ProjectPat2280]

They don't build a town. It's one of the many dead-end quests that Bethesda filled Oblivion with.

Yea, which kinda sucked ,that and exploring all the dungeons....they scare me :wow:

[Lord of Flies]

Meh, the only dungeon worth exploring, in my opinion, was the one that contained Mehrune's Razor.

[ProjectPat2280]

Meh, the only dungeon worth exploring, in my opinion, was the one that contained Mehrune's Razor.


It seemed like every side quest had me going into some dank ass dungeon. I mean i loved the game, but that junk got old.

[WhatsHisFace]

I just turned up the in-game lighting in dungeons. Made it much easier.

[Lord of Flies]

Yeah. Same here. Turn up the brightness and they become much easier to navigate.

[WhatsHisFace]

I also mess with the difficulty if something's being a pain in my @$$ but maybe I shouldn't mention that.

[Lord of Flies]

Just as well, I do too. At one point I just got fed up with everything scaling to my level and put the difficulty down to a quarter.

[WhatsHisFace]

I wish I had used it more. I would have sealed EVERY Oblivion gate. :(

[Lord of Flies]

Meh, the level-scaling was retarded. :o

[WhatsHisFace]

The more I play it, the more I have to agree.

[Lord of Flies]

I don't know, but I just couldn't enjoy that game after I got over the fact that it was a new Elder Scrolls game. It's just... really mediocre.

[WhatsHisFace]

Oblivion was hardly mediocre. It was more mass-market/user friendly (less ridiculous names for things, much better controls) but many of the staples remained. It was still a huge game, where everything in the game world is interactive, side quests abound, a handful of secrets/funny events for each town, etc...

[Lord of Flies]

Oblivion was hardly mediocre. It was more mass-market/user friendly (less ridiculous names for things, much better controls) but many of the staples remained. It was still a huge game, where everything in the game world is interactive, side quests abound, a handful of secrets/funny events for each town, etc...

The world was also boring, the fast travel system ruined the sense of adventure (not that the dull environs didn't do that already), the side quests were sort of pointless and consisted of mainly the same thing (steal from him, kill her, retrieve that, etc.)... There were a few quests that were unique, but they were few and far between. Having a huge world means nothing if 90% of it is the same damn thing over and over.

[WhatsHisFace]

They can only send you to do what the game mechanics allow. There's not going to be a mission where you web-swing to justice or fire yourself out of a cannon. All they can do is tell a story with the existing game design, and they did a great job of it.

[블라스]

I like how you can have a sword and swing it to attacks a bunch of different enemies.

[WhatsHisFace]

I like how every game in the world does that too.

[블라스]

Not Resistance LOLOLOLOL

[WhatsHisFace]

Ah yes... Resistance. The most soulless game of the generation.

[블라스]

Part 2 looks pretty good :(

[WhatsHisFace]

Have we even seen gameplay yet?

[블라스]

We have not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WhatsHisFace]

Until then: Resistance 2's hype should stay pretty low.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o47/WhatsHisFace911/missedtherunway.jpg

[블라스]

Bwahaha!

[블라스]

Until then: Resistance 2's hype should stay pretty low.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o47/WhatsHisFace911/missedtherunway.jpg

Did you buy the Hot Fuzz 3-disc set yet?
If not, you're a ***** *** 3421 **** $$^^ ****eater **** * (Arizona) ***** ** mother***** ***wearing :lips: **** chinese dentist **** super ******** peanut ***** woof! ** *** ****** doodoo head.

[WhatsHisFace]

Did you buy the Hot Fuzz 3-disc set yet?
If not, you're a ***** *** 3421 **** $$^^ ****eater **** * (Arizona) ***** ** mother***** ***wearing :lips: **** chinese dentist **** super ******** peanut ***** woof! ** *** ****** doodoo head.

I have been called many horrible things in my life... but this absolutely rings in at numero uno. I still need to get the 3-Disk... I'll probably have to wait until the new Edward Wright-Simon Pegg-Ed Frost movie is announced to truly feel the power. :csad:

[블라스]

It's probably the best movie ever created, after Japanese porn movies.

[WhatsHisFace]

Japanese cartoon porn movies?

[블라스]

No, not cartoons.

*WHF googles Yua Aida*

[WhatsHisFace]

Screw her.

Look up Reon Kadena! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[블라스]

Pigga, nlease :whatever:
I've googled Reon for a long time :cmad:

[WhatsHisFace]

Well then why did you stop doing the right thing?

[블라스]

Who said I stopped? LOL!

[WhatsHisFace]

HOOL!!! :cool:

[ProjectPat2280]

This game must come out this yr!

[XtromaniaK]

It will... or else. :cmad:

[WhatsHisFace]

It will. It's been content complete since fall. They have a year to just work out bugs and polish the graphics.

[ProjectPat2280]

It will. It's been content complete since fall. They have a year to just work out bugs and polish the graphics.


Nice :word:

[Lando81]

very nice

[Flash Facts]

A developer just made this comment today and I thought it was cool/interesting so I figured I would share it here. :yay:

I'm not going to go into any details but there is a wider range of crimes in Fable 2 (I should know, I coded them). Different places can have different attitudes to crimes too, e.g. something that's a crime in Bowerstone may not be a crime in other places.

[WhatsHisFace]

Bowerstone was really uptight in Fable 1 because their history included a slaughter fest. You weren't even allowed to bring your weapons into town.

[XtromaniaK]

I'm going to definitely beat some poor sap into a corner like I did in the last game. Getting your combat multiplier up ridiculously high + food = ridiculous amounts of skill points.

[블라스]

This game's gonna make House Party look like House Party 2!

[GFreeman]

Stop saying things about House Party.

[블라스]

You're a House Party.
The gayest one.

[XtromaniaK]

Why? Why must you defile this thread?! :csad:

[GFreeman]

Because it's Fable.

[블라스]

I want Tyrone Power-style swordfighing and different fencing styles :cmad:

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[GFreeman]

Well that sounds pretty lame Blas.

[XtromaniaK]

My faith in humanity has been lost. I... I try to enjoy Fable 2, but they just can't be content with that...

:csad: :huh:

[블라스]

Well that sounds pretty lame Blas.

No, you!

[XtromaniaK]

So... Fable 2 looks great, guys. :up:

[WhatsHisFace]

That it does.

[XtromaniaK]

Did you finally see the third video diary, WHF?

[WhatsHisFace]

I did. It was the best of them all. I'm looking forward to what we get out of GDC in March, because there, Peter Molyneux will unveil the next two major features.

[XtromaniaK]

I agree. It will be interesting to see what Molyneux has up his sleeve. It really is nice being able to genuinely anticipate the features that the game will have. As compared to having Molyneux spout off about all of them the first day of development and having a lot of them get axed because of time/hardware constraints.

[WhatsHisFace]

http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox/features/article/291/Fable-2---will-it-deliver-can-it-deliver?.html

I never knew you could turn off the Guild Master in Lost Chapters!!! :eek:

[GFreeman]

You can kill him I think.

[WhatsHisFace]

Even after he dies in Fable 1, he still says "Try getting your combat multiplier even higher"... a message so important it's the only one he tries to get across from beyond the grave. I guess he didn't have any friends, family or secrets at the time of his death. :rolleyes:

[XtromaniaK]

Even after he dies in Fable 1, he still says "Try getting your combat multiplier even higher"... a message so important it's the only one he tries to get across from beyond the grave. I guess he didn't have any friends, family or secrets at the time of his death. :rolleyes:

He was an old, paedophilic man. Of course he had no friends or family.

:o

[WhatsHisFace]

It was actually kind of a powerful moment when he died. He went down saving the Guild, and his last words were short but inspirational. Just when I felt like I had actually lost something, I get to the next region and he says "Try getting your combat multiplier even higher" for the 10,000,000th time and it just ruined the beauty of his death.

[XtromaniaK]

Yeah. But that is a message that transcends death with its imminence.

[WhatsHisFace]

If anything should have come from beyond the grave... it should have been some insight into the final choice you need to make in the game.

I really wanted the sword, so... sorry Sis!

[XtromaniaK]

In the Lost Chapters, did anything happen if you chose to keep the mask?

[WhatsHisFace]

I never actually got The Lost Chapters. I had moved on to Jade Empire and other such games by then. :(

[XtromaniaK]

You sad, depraved man. That started me out of my retirement of Fable, it fixed a lot of things (especially the short nature of the main storyline).

[WhatsHisFace]

Fable 2 is hopefully very long. If they're just taking a year for polish, I figure they threw in a bunch of crap and now they're trying to make it all work.

[XtromaniaK]

As long as it takes me longer than a day to complete, I'm happy. If it was FPS-short, I might have to cry.

:csad:

[WhatsHisFace]

An RPG that lasts only four hours would be Heavenly Sword... and therefore immediately sucky.

[XtromaniaK]

Any game that lasted only four hours would suck. Especially Heavenly Sword.

[WhatsHisFace]

To be honest, I speed-ran PoP aand clocked in at about four hours.

Neversoft's Spider-man was a really short game too. :D

They are the only good short games I know of. :(

[XtromaniaK]

The rest of them might as well be named Heavenly Sword.

:csad:

[WhatsHisFace]

Sevenly Sword was an amazing joke that never caught on. :(

[XtromaniaK]

It is probably because no one understood what that meant.