Overall, do you like the Halo storyline? Explain.

[Delusive]

I've always liked the Halo storyline and its universe so I wanted to see what everyone else thought of it, I'll list different specifics that you can rank each part in and then you can rank it overall:

Here are the questions:

How is it in originality?

How is it as far as First Person Shooters go?

How is it compared to overall games besides their genre?

Without the books to flesh out the universe, how is it just with the games and nothing else to go by?

How is it with everything including the Graphic Novel and the books?

Did you like the ciff hangers that Halo 2 presented to you?

How is it overall?

I'll try to give my opinion in depth later but I liked the storyline.

Also, as a question of my own...

Are the books canon to the Halo storyline or are they their own universe? Did Bungie comment one way or the other? What about the Graphic Novel?

[WhatsHisFace]

I like the Halo storyline as well. Most people do, and it's unanimous in reviews that the series has good storylines.

I think the premise is pretty good. Aliens fighting for religious reasons is a nice diversion from "We want your resources" or "Your stupid minds!".

It sets up a good base for us to shoot life, too. These guys are fanatics, we have guns, ratatatatatat. :D

I wish Halo 2's story was less character-based (and politics-based :o ) and more event-based like Halo 1, but I enjoyed Halo 2 anyways. :D

[Kalit]

Uh.. thanks for putting no good reason for no (no bias at all here...).... it's not good, it's a generic alien invasion story line. I want interesting plots, and if it's just an average story, I want amazing gameplay. Granted, I didn't play through the whole thing.. but I've played through half of it (with a bad story and ok gameplay that's quite a bit, and I'm talking about the first one, second one I played maybe half hour into).

[lars573]

The story is ok it puts a good spin (religous fanatasim) on a generic plot (teh Aliemz pwnzzor teh humies). Gameplay, it's an FPS. The most originaly thing they did to stand out was make melee you swing your gun instead of pulling out a gimp-ass knife. But like every FPS with a sci-fi element in it they put in head craps (IE the flood). Everyone copy's that motif from HL and it's gotta stop! I can see why it's uniqueness and more-o-the-sameness make it so popular.

[JonBenetsGhost]

The story is more than half the reason I play the games, so yeah.

[Axid]

Who killed you?

[Axid]

Oh, her mother :o

[Delusive]

Uh.. thanks for putting no good reason for no (no bias at all here...).... it's not good, it's a generic alien invasion story line. I want interesting plots, and if it's just an average story, I want amazing gameplay. Granted, I didn't play through the whole thing.. but I've played through half of it (with a bad story and ok gameplay that's quite a bit, and I'm talking about the first one, second one I played maybe half hour into).

Wait. I put three options spreading out to no and three spreading out to yes with one in the middle. No, I hate the story line but love the gameplay, no I hate the story line and the gameplay or I didn't even know Halo had a story line. I had to give a generic option for each question and then I gave questions that you could answer to flesh out your opinion. I assume you wanted every single option to be "no, it's a generic alien invasion story line which is just stupid" with one being an ok option. Seeing as how you haven't played the full game, you kinda get past the whole "generic alien invasion story line" anyway upon which they don't even invade Earth (the first Halo).

[xwolverine2]

i hate the story........ i play for gameplay

[HUMAN]

Love the story. I've probably read The Fall of Reach a total of five times in one year. The gameplay is just added spice. Both are spectacular and I look forward to Halo 3.

The story is a perfect reason why Halo should be made into a movie. And with PJ and co. behind it, I cannot wait!!

[WhatsHisFace]

Uh.. thanks for putting no good reason for no (no bias at all here...).... it's not good, it's a generic alien invasion story line. I want interesting plots, and if it's just an average story, I want amazing gameplay. Granted, I didn't play through the whole thing.. but I've played through half of it (with a bad story and ok gameplay that's quite a bit, and I'm talking about the first one, second one I played maybe half hour into).
YEAH, YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY FINISH A STORY BEFORE COMMENTING ON IT. :cmad: :woot:

[Kalit]

Um.. sorry.. but if a story isn't interesting enough to keep me going for more than half the game... it's not good. Now if I only played maybe an hour or so, I'ld see your point, but half the game is enough.

[Axid]

How do you know it's half of the game if you didn't finish it? :o

[lars573]

For sure. I still haven't finished Halo2, after having it since the Christmans is came out. :wow: And I still don't know how far into the story I am. Other than I just saw the giant phsychic plant for the first time.

[Kalit]

Because my friends are halo fans?

[WhatsHisFace]

How do you know it's half of the game if you didn't finish it? :o
He couldn't. He's hopefully just testing how many ways he can lose peoples respect.

[Addendum]

Since when is respect tied to video games

[WhatsHisFace]

When conversations about them can measure your intelligence.

[XwolverineX]

I like it alot. My reason? Not giving one.

[Joker]

I'm friends with Kalit in real life, but he's totally wrong about it being a generic alien invasion. The aliens motives being one of the biggest reasons. Also the fact that in the first Halo they don't invade anything, it's a neutral planet/ring. And when they do hit earth in 2 it's by mistake and not really even an invasion.

[Delusive]

To be fair, the Covenant are/were searching for the Ark, which, I believe, happens to be on Earth. However, it's not the generic aliens must conquer Earth type story. The only reason they are after Earth is because of the Ark which happens to activate all Halos to my reasoning. Humans are also descendants of the Forerunners which is another significant part in the story.

Anyway, still, the point stands, Halo 1 had nothing to do with conquering Earth, it had to do with activating Halo, which, in turn, would destory all sentient life in the universe.

And the alien side is fleshed out, how many times do you see rebellions happen within the alien group that is "conquering" Earth? Right now the Covenant is split up between Prophets, Brutes, Jackels vs. Elites, Hunters, and Grunts. Go GRUNTS!

[Master Chief]

I like the storyline, and I love the universe. But without the books to paint a bigger picture I don't think the games could hold their own. I hated Halo 2 for being incomplete though, that was such bulls**t, at least Halo 3 looks to make up for it and more.

But like every FPS with a sci-fi element in it they put in head craps (IE the flood). Everyone copy's that motif from HL and it's gotta stop!

lol. The flood leech onto the whole body though.

[lars573]

So do head crabs.

[Master Chief]

I've only seen them on the head. :dry:

[Jerry]

When conversations about them can measure your intelligence.

When conversations on video games about fighting aliens gets to that point, everyone should just stop for a second and realize its a video game about fighting aliens. Not a measuring stick for intelligence. Unless you're pathetic.

[WhatsHisFace]

When conversations on video games about fighting aliens gets to that point, everyone should just stop for a second and realize its a video game about fighting aliens. Not a measuring stick for intelligence. Unless you're pathetic.
Or unless you're a person who realizes that a conversation about anything can reveal intellect, you can keep going because that's what people in the real world actually do.

[Addendum]

Or just realize that video games are just a good escape from reality for however long you play.

[GuntherHermann]

What is so hard for people to understand? Conversations are good ways to judge intelligence, it doesn't matter what the subject matter is. I mean, this is basic.

[MulligaN Stew]

I've always liked the Halo storyline and its universe so I wanted to see what everyone else thought of it, I'll list different specifics that you can rank each part in and then you can rank it overall:

Here are the questions:

How is it in originality?
Eh, it does take from other FPS games, but the story is what kind of separates it from the pack. The 1st Xbox game had a compelling tale; the 2nd one was decent also.

How is it as far as First Person Shooters go?
It's definitely the best one for X-box, but I don't know how people would rate it against Counter-Strike, Half-Life, or Quake.

Personally, my fav FPS was probably 007 for the N64; so many good mems.

How is it compared to overall games besides their genre?
Well, the 1st one literally stole the better part of my life when it originally came out. I used every ounce of free time, and much of my sleep time to frag anything that was moving.

At first, it was how unbelievably difficult legendary was. . .even on co-op; then it was about how many times I could beat it in a week on solo legendary. . . a la . . . talking on the phone w/ friends while we raced through levels to try to beat it first.

Doing that will ruin any type of relationship that you're in, but I was that involved with the first. I'd say that the 1st Xbox version of Halo is up there with Mario or Zelda for Nintendo, GTA or Metal Gear for PS.

Without the books to flesh out the universe, how is it just with the games and nothing else to go by?
The games are explanatory, and they're more than adequate for the novice or casual player. For me personally, I need as much info about the world as possible. . whether it's the Halo universe, SW, LoTR, Marvel, DC, etc. . . I love knowing the little things.

How is it with everything including the Graphic Novel and the books?
It's only better for me; honestly, it may sound weird, but knowing more about the actual world adds another dimension to the gameplay for me. It becomes even more realistic and adds to the effort of not blinking for hrs at a time.

*Running Riot(10x)*

Did you like the ciff hangers that Halo 2 presented to you?
Ah, my one and only gripe about the games. No, I did not like the fact that Bungie pulled a Wachowski brother's cliffhanger. I wasn't playing Halo: Reloaded. I wanted a little bit more closure, but I received an incomprehensible cocktease. (Yet I still played on and on. Truthfully though, I haven't played the 2nd one in a months.)

How is it overall?
1st one: 9.5/10
2nd one: 8.5/10 <just because of the ending>

I'll try to give my opinion in depth later but I liked the storyline.

Also, as a question of my own...

Are the books canon to the Halo storyline or are they their own universe? Did Bungie comment one way or the other? What about the Graphic Novel?
I think that they're canon. I remember reading an IGN article on it. It's a bit dated but here:
http://comics.ign.com/articles/714/714462p1.html

[WhatsHisFace]

Or just realize that video games are just a good escape from reality for however long you play.
Which you can TALK about, therefore you can SHOW INTELLEGENCE while doing so.

[Addendum]

But who gives a damn about it?

Just play the ****ing games. Don't masturbate your brain.

Save the masturbation for your penis.

[WhatsHisFace]

Because this is a forum. :(

[Addendum]

So you don't play games for your enjoyment?

You just play them to impress people on an internet message board?

[GuntherHermann]

Every time. Every goddamn time, there is always someone on this forum who just lowers the bar, every ****ing time. How can someone wrestle with such an easy concept this much? :whatever:

[lars573]

I've only seen them on the head. :dry:
And I've mostly seen flood spores on the shoulders or head. Then the green fuzz spreads out. The second kind of headcrab in HL2 spreads it's skin all ove rthe victims. The original headcrab form a new mouth in the victims chest.

[GuntherHermann]

Um, a mouth in the chest? Have you played HL2 by any chance? The Ravenholm areas? Because I don't recall ever having seen someone walking around with a chest mouth :dry:

[DACMAN]

Where's the "I love the story AND gameplay" option?

[GuntherHermann]

It's not there since this is a troll thread, duh.

[DACMAN]

To be fair, the Covenant are/were searching for the Ark, which, I believe, happens to be on Earth. However, it's not the generic aliens must conquer Earth type story. The only reason they are after Earth is because of the Ark which happens to activate all Halos to my reasoning. Humans are also descendants of the Forerunners which is another significant part in the story.

Anyway, still, the point stands, Halo 1 had nothing to do with conquering Earth, it had to do with activating Halo, which, in turn, would destory all sentient life in the universe.

And the alien side is fleshed out, how many times do you see rebellions happen within the alien group that is "conquering" Earth? Right now the Covenant is split up between Prophets, Brutes, Jackels vs. Elites, Hunters, and Grunts. Go GRUNTS!
Man I love Halo. I thought the same thing about humans and the Forerunners. That's why 313 Guilty Spark calls the Chief a reclaimer and also talks about his "predissiors".

[Delusive]

Where's the "I love the story AND gameplay" option?

I simply forgot about it. When I created the poll options, I had so many "I love the story line" and "I love the gameplay" options that I thought I put that option in there. Sorry about that. That's why I wish there was an edit feature for polls that let you edit options with "0" votes in them.

I chose "option 2" because, even though I absolutely love the gameplay (I actually like Halo 1's gameplay a bit better but Halo 2's is still awesome), there are some bad or ok parts (like 10% out of 100% of the gameplay is ok while the other 90% is awesome) so the story more than makes up for that.

It's not there since this is a troll thread, duh.

Nice try...but no. If this was a troll thread, I'd try to twist the options so there would be no way of saying "I hate the story line" which this thread was about instead of the gameplay, thus, again, being one of the reasons that I forgot that one option.

[Master Chief]

And I've mostly seen flood spores on the shoulders or head. Then the green fuzz spreads out. The second kind of headcrab in HL2 spreads it's skin all ove rthe victims. The original headcrab form a new mouth in the victims chest.

I've seen the flood jump for the torso mostly, and they'll usually latch onto the leg and explode or something if the intended target doesn't move far away enough. Head crabs only go for the head. And don't explode unless you gernade them. I think. :dry:

[Addendum]

Every time. Every goddamn time, there is always someone on this forum who just lowers the bar, every ****ing time. How can someone wrestle with such an easy concept this much? :whatever:
Like the bar on a damned internet board devoted to comic book movies is so high? right.

[Jerry]

Which you can TALK about, therefore you can SHOW INTELLEGENCE while doing so.


So basically you're smarter than someone else that hasn't played Halo as long as you because you played it until the end therfore their opinion doesn't mean anything. Think about that and interpret it and then get back to me with a full report. Because obviously you have that kind of time. Should be a breeze though, especially for a guy with your sort of intelligence.

PS: Employers in the "real world" don't have much use for knowledge when it comes to video games, nor do people have more respect for others who have more knowledge on video games than they do. Its a ****ing video game. A toy.

[DACMAN]

So basically you're smarter than someone else that hasn't played Halo...
I'm gonna have to agree. Yup.

[WhatsHisFace]

So basically you're smarter than someone else that hasn't played Halo as long as you because you played it until the end therfore their opinion doesn't mean anything.
That's pretty much how it works. I play Halo start to finish, I know more about Halo than someone who hasn't.

Friggin moron.

[MulligaN Stew]

But who gives a damn about it?

Just play the ****ing games. Don't masturbate your brain.

Save the masturbation for your penis.

Don't masturbate your brain. Nice. You won't get a smilie from me because I don't do that sort of thing, but this is a funny comment.

their opinion doesn't mean anything.

If you haven't beaten a game [particularly, this one on solo legendary], you can have an opinion, but it's probably worthless.

To me, it's useless.

PS: Employers in the "real world" don't have much use for knowledge when it comes to video games, nor do people have more respect for others who have more knowledge on video games than they do. Its a ****ing video game. A toy.

Video games are recreation, you neophyte, psuedo-realist 'real world' myrmidon. Please never use the 'real world' in an argument again. Thanks.

Geez, gimme shelter from these dipsh. . . yeah.

PS: Coming into a game forum and using the 'real world' as a cop-out just might be a 'faux pas'.

You're welcome to your opinion, but don't 'cry foul' when people take objection. I'd think that experienced people in the 'real world' would know this.

[Jerry]

That wasn't me who started that real world argument crap. That was WHF.