What's Your Skylar Theory?

[PLAS]

as I was watching the second episode, specifically, the telepatic cop scene, at first I thought it was just a regular crime scene, then they showed the gruesome ways in which the people had been killed, immediatly afterwards, Skylar is first mentioned, first thing I thought "superpowered psycho"

it was an interesting plot point, until we see his next victim, the painter, who had been killed in pretty much the same way the guy in the house had been, head sliced and brain missing

and then it hit me, maybe this skylar person is tagging superpowered beings in order to absorb their powers and thus, become more powerful

what do you all think?

[Mixairian]

Sylar. I tripled checked last night while showing the episode to a friend. Dude's name is Sylar, that's how it's written on the tape.

As for now I'm going with high class telekinetic. That's the only class that can freeze, saw off a person's head and lift them agaisnt a stairwell while putting my kitchen utensils into them. And it is encompassed by one power.

Another one to match this "hunger" thing could be a life drain type ability. That could freeze it and believably after draining/eating, one could be stronger and such.

Also note that the father and mother were killed very differently. So far only male brains have been eaten.

[GL1]

They Sylar theory I'm into now is that he is:
1) Papa Suresh's Patient Zero.
2) He eats people's brains to get their powers.
3) He at Papa Suresh's brain to learn how to find "Heroes"
4) He will be, in part, responsible for the November 8th tragedy
5) He's NOT Mr. Glasses

I'm trying to figure out what power it is that would allow him to duplicate other people's minds by eating them, since using more than 10% of the mind is what gives the "Heroes" their powers.

[Upset Spideyfan]

Considering the hodge-podge of abilities he would need to pull off the sort of display that we've seen so far of his work he...

A. Has Telekenesis

or B. Absorbs other people's superpowers by eating (or consuming) their brains.


One really far out idea I had at first was that Sylar was the Stripper's alternate persona, but the voice was clearly male so there goes that.

[GL1]

DarkNikki is also a very good criminal... it would be VERY interesting to find out that she were Syler, but I don't think that she would have a whole lot of time to jaunt around the country in persuit of power...

[PLAS]

and look how the show ****ers will keep us guessing for the whole week

what were the ratings for last monday's show?

[The Question]

I highly doubt that he absorbs powers by eating people's brains. That just seems very extreme, and besides, it looks like Peter's the power absorber of the group. I'm going with Mixairian and saying that he's a high end telikinetic. As for his "hunger," I think that's just how he describes his psychological compulsion to kill people.

[Eros]

maybe skylar is like the shows David dunn or superman except hes a twisted sociapath lol. He could of frozen those people with freeze beathe, and used his superstrength to hang that woman up their like that. Hell he probblay has telekinsis to.

[Wolfwood]

I highly doubt that he absorbs powers by eating people's brains. That just seems very extreme, and besides, it looks like Peter's the power absorber of the group. I'm going with Mixairian and saying that he's a high end telikinetic. As for his "hunger," I think that's just how he describes his psychological compulsion to kill people.

I kind of think you two are right, but just to be different, I'm still sticking with my brain eating theory. Though it kind of makes him like a super powered psychopathic zombie.

[The Question]

Just seems too weird. Especially since Peter's shaping up to be a power copier himself. Telekinetic just seems alot simpler.

[SouLeSS]

5$ Says it's mister glasses's alter ego.

[The Question]

I doubt that. I think both of them represent a different kind of villain. Claire's dad is the villain of order. Everything he does is pragmatic and has purpose, and he may even feel that what he is doing is for the greater good, not for himself. Sylar represents the villain of chaos. He harms people and creates havok because he can.

[Darthphere]

Sylar is one of Claire's dad's experiments gone wrong.

[PLAS]

Sylar is one of Claire's dad's experiments gone wrong.
I really doubt there's any relationship between them

[SouLeSS]

I doubt that. I think both of them represent a different kind of villain. Claire's dad is the villain of order. Everything he does is pragmatic and has purpose, and he may even feel that what he is doing is for the greater good, not for himself. Sylar represents the villain of chaos. He harms people and creates havok because he can.

So like Lex Luthor and The Joker?

Hnm...Makes sense.

[Darthphere]

I really doubt there's any relationship between them


Id actually agree, for the most part the dude in glasses hasnt done anything that sinister, though there are scenes that have shown him doing experiement on Greg grunberg I believe.

[RockSP]

I think Skyler is a nerdy preteen bird who lives with his uncle who works at a newspaper. That's my theory...

[SoulManX]

A demon maybe?

[The Question]

.......why the hell would he be a demon? Why can't he just be a telikinetic serial killer?

[Substance D]

I highly doubt that he absorbs powers by eating people's brains. That just seems very extreme, and besides, it looks like Peter's the power absorber of the group. I'm going with Mixairian and saying that he's a high end telikinetic. As for his "hunger," I think that's just how he describes his psychological compulsion to kill people.

um, what hasn't been extreme about this show so far? a cheerleader who shoves her hand down a garbage disposal, gets a stick lodged into her brain, only to wake up dissected. a woman who guts mobsters and then finds their remains in her trunk. a cop who discoveres a woman pinned to the wall with kitchen utensils by a guy who runs around and cuts open people's heads. how is eating a brain any less gruesome or extreme than all of that???? seriously. gaining the knowledge/powers of those he consumes is scarey and badass and makes sense. and it's just as easy to say he gains new powers, than to explain to the audience that telekinisis can removes heat from a body a science teacher. it also explains how he is able to reproduce all of mohinder's father's work. sometimes the right explanation is the simplest one, the question. quit being a nerd.

[Substance D]

As for his "hunger," I think that's just how he describes his psychological compulsion to kill people.

yes, and he just happens to remove people's brains because he's a brain collecter.. *eyeroll* seriously, think about it. he has all of mohinder's father's knowledge, greather than what was in his own apartment. he removed the artist's brain. that makes sense, being able to predict the future would be a valuable power.

and if he stopped the bullets with his telekinesis, then how come he got knocked down? it looked more like he need to recover, like he has invincibility but still felt the impact, or had to heal himself. But whatever. I guess we'll find out.

[SoulManX]

.......why the hell would he be a demon? Why can't he just be a telikinetic serial killer?

Since Mo metions God in the narration in some ep I figure maybe he could be a demon.

[Substance D]

Since Mo metions God in the narration in some ep I figure maybe he could be a demon.

nah, that's really far fetched. i like it better that he's just like the other characters, except he's evil and can gain new powers. that's some real arch nemesis **** going on there.

[SoulManX]

nah, that's really far fetched. i like it better that he's just like the other characters, except he's evil and can gain new powers. that's some real arch nemesis **** going on there.

Now what if I turn out to be right...would that change people's view on the show?

[Substance D]

Now what if I turn out to be right...would that change people's view on the show?

depends on how they handled it

[Spider-Fan83]

depends on how they handled it
sounds, alil to "Jeepers Creepers" to me

[DarkBeast]

I like the "eat their brains to get their powers/memories" theory. There are some cannibalistic tribes in Papua New Guinea that believe they inherit a person's strength and memories if they eat them.

Really, it's not that much of a stretch considering we have a people flying, growing back hands and so on.

[Mixairian]

yes, and he just happens to remove people's brains because he's a brain collecter.. *eyeroll* seriously, think about it. he has all of mohinder's father's knowledge, greather than what was in his own apartment. he removed the artist's brain. that makes sense, being able to predict the future would be a valuable power.

and if he stopped the bullets with his telekinesis, then how come he got knocked down? it looked more like he need to recover, like he has invincibility but still felt the impact, or had to heal himself. But whatever. I guess we'll find out.

Telekinesis. It's possible he stopped the bullets with telekinsis before they did any vital damage but the fact that he's stopping so many small projectiles going over 3k MPH (the approximate speed of a bullet) was enough to cause strain on him. Or he was only able to create a telekinetic wall in front of him and it wasn't enough to full stop them from hitting him.

Right now, with the information we have, the most feesable option is he has a psychological compulsion to consume human brain tissue. As for having Mohinder's knowledge, he was the first one to be contacted by Mohinder, the man could have been very trusting with his first subject before discovering what kind've man he was. Sylar could have also very easily broken into Mohinders apartment and copied the information.

Absorbing powers, memory and such through consiming brain tissue seems possible but the show seems to have a relatively good grasp or science and logic when it comes to such abilities. If he did have such an ability, the gains would only be short term (as in when the brain tissue is fully consumed and removed from his system once his body had every nutrient from it).

As for cutting open and eating Isaac's brain. There were too many variables in that scene. For one thing the gun that happened to be lying there, the well timed arrival of the police. It was a setup of sorts.

As of now the pyschological compulsion to consume human brain tissue seems most fitting. With Mohinder's knowledge that some people are genetically different, it may have provided a further evolutionary outlet for his mental ailment...

Another way to look at it is treat it as a phsyical issue. Telekinesis is a mental ability and could apply strain on one's cerebral cortex. Thus he may need brain tissue to fuel his ability---or at least he thinks he does.

[Spider-Fan83]

I like the "eat their brains to get their powers/memories" theory. There are some cannibalistic tribes in Papua New Guinea that believe they inherit a person's strength and memories if they eat them.

Really, it's not that much of a stretch considering we have a people flying, growing back hands and so on.
no, I was talking about Substance D's demon theory (being to Jeepers Creepers) not, Skylar (being a person) who eats brains to gain knowledge and or powers
I don't know if he was joking or not, but, I don't see it working

[DarkBeast]

no, I was talking about Substance D's demon theory (being to Jeepers Creepers) not, Skylar (being a person) who eats brains to gain knowledge and or powers
I don't know if he was joking or not, but, I don't see it working

I agree, my post was general to the topic more than a response to a post. I don't think the demon theory is so valid either, it's a little to "mystical" for this show. The show IMO is like Unbreakable in that they try to depict super-powered people as a realistic possibility. Who knows, maybe in the distant future we will evolve to read minds and so on, I just don't think demons will walk the earth regardless of evolution.

[Spider-Fan83]

^ oh, misread your post, thought you were talking about what I posted, sry

[sc12een17am3]

just watched the 3rd episode, i guess its offical that its spelled Sylar.

[StorminNorman]

I think that Sylar (as has been stated before) is a telekenetic serial killer who eats brains. I am not exactly sure though what (if anything) the brain eating really does for him (he may just be a psycho).

I think Mr. Glasses is apart of a Government movement to surpress the "heroes" and is apart of the same organization that swarmed Hiro. I think that their main mutant they want is Slylar.

What I am not sure of is who the black guy who the Cop couldn't read. Is he Slylar? Is he another baddie? Is he a government agent? Is he another hero? Is he just a normal guy?

I also am not sure that any of these groups will have anything to do with the Novemember 8th disaster - though I could be wrong.

[Mixairian]

just watched the 3rd episode, i guess its offical that its spelled Sylar.

Was official in the first episode when Suresh finds the tape with the name on it.
I think that Sylar (as has been stated before) is a telekenetic serial killer who eats brains. I am not exactly sure though what (if anything) the brain eating really does for him (he may just be a psycho).

I think Mr. Glasses is apart of a Government movement to surpress the "heroes" and is apart of the same organization that swarmed Hiro. I think that their main mutant they want is Slylar.

What I am not sure of is who the black guy who the Cop couldn't read. Is he Slylar? Is he another baddie? Is he a government agent? Is he another hero? Is he just a normal guy?

I also am not sure that any of these groups will have anything to do with the Novemember 8th disaster - though I could be wrong.
Popular theory for the black bald guy is that he's Niki's husband and that he can phase through walls.

[sc12een17am3]

Was official in the first episode when Suresh finds the tape with the name on it.

Popular theory for the black bald guy is that he's Niki's husband and that he can phase through walls.


aww mybad totally 4got about that tape

yeah i was thinking that black guy is Nikis husband also. it make sense since they introduced him when Niki and her kid talked about him in this episode. if he is the one that can phase through the walls would that me he has more then one power? cause it seemed that the cop couldnt read his mind

[Salemdog]

A question if someone could clear this up. I know that Sylar has killed several people. But why leave the girl? Could Sylar be targeting the parents of the special kids. Could Claire's parents actually be dead and Sylar offed them. There is an obvious connection with Sylar and the man in glasses. If so he could have taken Claire in after Sylar killed her parents and this has been going on longer than we think with Sylar being the first one to come out?

I wasn't sure if the FBI agent (who was great in Carnivale btw) was specific on who Sylar was targeting. If someone has a bit more info that would be great.

And what if it wasn't Sylar going after the girl but the guy in the bar and him and Mr. Glasses were just trying to get the girl for themselves after what Sylar did?

Again..I might be reading too much into it.

[Spider-Fan83]

Popular theory for the black bald guy is that he's Niki's husband and that he can phase through walls.
aww mybad totally 4got about that tape
yeah i was thinking that black guy is Nikis husband also. it make sense since they introduced him when Niki and her kid talked about him in this episode. if he is the one that can phase through the walls would that me he has more then one power? cause it seemed that the cop couldnt read his mind
The black guy (from the bar) is not Niki's husband
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9371/herosau1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
that guy (Leonard Roberts) (the one holding the kids hand) is Niki's husband

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8537/image2bz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
this is the guy (Jimmy Jean-Louis) is the guy form the bar

just, cause the guy in the bar was black, you assume he has to be the husband

[The Question]

um, what hasn't been extreme about this show so far? a cheerleader who shoves her hand down a garbage disposal, gets a stick lodged into her brain, only to wake up dissected. a woman who guts mobsters and then finds their remains in her trunk. a cop who discoveres a woman pinned to the wall with kitchen utensils by a guy who runs around and cuts open people's heads. how is eating a brain any less gruesome or extreme than all of that???? seriously.

It just seems a bit much, is all.

gaining the knowledge/powers of those he consumes is scarey and badass and makes sense. and it's just as easy to say he gains new powers, than to explain to the audience that telekinisis can removes heat from a body a science teacher. it also explains how he is able to reproduce all of mohinder's father's work. sometimes the right explanation is the simplest one, the question. quit being a nerd.

Stop calling me a nerd. I just don't think he has multiple powers. No other character on the show does. Seems more likely to me that he has one power, TK, and has become highly skilled at it.

yes, and he just happens to remove people's brains because he's a brain collecter.. *eyeroll* seriously, think about it. he has all of mohinder's father's knowledge, greather than what was in his own apartment. he removed the artist's brain. that makes sense, being able to predict the future would be a valuable power.

I just don't think it's an actual physical hunger. He just enjoys mutilating the bodies. Also, the main reason I think he doesn't absorn powers is because Pete Petrelli already absorbs powers.

and if he stopped the bullets with his telekinesis, then how come he got knocked down?

Maybe he didn't react in time to do what Neo did in the Matrix and simply used TK to cussion the impact.

[NateGray]

It just seems a bit much, is all.



Stop calling me a nerd. I just don't think he has multiple powers. No other character on the show does. Seems more likely to me that he has one power, TK, and has become highly skilled at it.



I just don't think it's an actual physical hunger. He just enjoys mutilating the bodies. Also, the main reason I think he doesn't absorn powers is because Pete Petrelli already absorbs powers.



Maybe he didn't react in time to do what Neo did in the Matrix and simply used TK to cussion the impact.

I think you are stretching this TK theory way to thin IMO anyways.

Odds are he may have TK but if he does it is coupled with other powers again IMO anyways.
I have a theory he may not have TK so much as telepathy and controlled the FBI agent's mind to point the gun at her own head regen to get up from being shot and flight when he flew away.
While that is a thin excuse its just as viable as your TK theory since both have holes the real odds are he has TK coupled with multiple other powers that I sepculate he gets from other hero's whose brains he has consumed.

Guess we will have to watch and find out good thing I love this show :)

[GhostPoet]

Sylar has AT LEAST 2 powers...possibly more.

We know almost certainly he has super strength (in order to life the woman up against the wall and stick her there with knives)
We also know he can freeze people...which is what he seems to like to do before taking out their brains. Or at least in the case of the last guy.

[paulyfknt90]

my theory on sylar is

each of the heroes we know of are geneticaly altrerd humans, all created by sylar and a group of scientists

he out them in the real world to see how they can function but something goes wrong as he wants them all back.

there are more heroes that we dont know of, possibly hundreds more, but the key people are the ones we know of

peter,nikkie,mohinder,isaac,clair,matt, and so on


if you noticed in the last episode sylar has the abilitys of each of his experiments wich makes him indistructable and near hard to catch.

so far his powers are telekanesys,healing power, mind manipulation, and flight ability



theres soo many things about sylar that we dont know of yet, such as why hes soo interested in that little girl, my guess on that is shes yet another experiment.

o and lastly he dosn't eat brains, he takes them for reaserch to find the information that dr. mohinder was looking for genes and dna for human evolution

im soo into this show, its rly kickass!

[Eddie Brock]

my new theory is that he has all the powers of the other heroes
doesn't explain the telekinesis, but it explains the bullets and flight

[paulyfknt90]

^ i just said that


and he has more powers than we know of because there are more heroes out there in the world that we dont know of yet.


didnt you pay attention to sylars map in the last episode when mohinder said

girl: there are strings on the map like yours

mohinder: yes but there is more strings, dozens more


well point is all those stings represent locations for the heroes, there are more heroes out there. sooner or later well see em

[Eddie Brock]

^ that may be true, but it doesn't explain HOW he got the powers either...

[paulyfknt90]

The black guy (from the bar) is not Niki's husband

that guy (Leonard Roberts) (the one holding the kids hand) is Niki's husband


this is the guy (Jimmy Jean-Louis) is the guy form the bar

just, cause the guy in the bar was black, you assume he has to be the husband



actualy that guy from the bar is one of sylars lackys

he can block matt parman from reading his mind, and eventualy casued matt to faint, we dont know what happend after that tho, i assume D.L took him

[paulyfknt90]

^ that may be true, but it doesn't explain HOW he got the powers either...


sylar got his powers from papa suresh


mohinders father was the original finder of the "hero" dna
all that reaserch on his computer was a way of finding or creating the dna, how he came to discover it, we wont know till later in the season

sylar is simply mr.surshes experiment gone wrong sylar now wants to capture all the heroes so he can destroy/take over the world

dr. suresh created the other heroes in order to stop sylar

why do you think he killed mr. suresh

[8atman]

Don't know if anyone saw my post in the thread about Peter, but I believe Skylar is Peter's brother Nathan.

[paulyfknt90]

nope SYLAR has no realation to anyone


peters brother is realy peters brother, not sylar

[8atman]

nope SYLAR has no realation to anyone


peters brother is realy peters brother, not sylar

What facts do you have to support your theory or that contradict my theory? You didn't put why you think that it's not peter.

[aphro666]

I think I figured out the whole thing.
sylar is the Indian guy's father, the one who was doing all the research. he developed the powers he has, and wanted to know why.
The reason he cuts out the brains is do reserach them, and he gave himself the code name Sylar so as to differentiate the two. if you listen to the message machine tape, both voices sound very similar, as if he was talking to himself, only vaguely disguising teh voice of Sylar.
What might have happened is he went mad after senslessy killing these people, and developed a split personality. And, he was leaving clues, as he knew his son woudl be coming to finish his work. He felt Sylar was taking over, so he had to leave clues here and there for someone to stop him.
The HRG guy knows he was Sylar, and is trying to stop him before he gets to his daughter. he also knows he is not dead.
They were planting the bug thinking the son knows his father is still alive, and wanted to get an idea of where this man is, being as it woudl be pretty logical for the m to be in communication..

[paulyfknt90]

^ syalr and mohinders dad are two different people you theory could be possible but ehh


dr. suresh is played by Erick Avari, you can see him on the cover of that book peter petrelli is reading, about human evolution and potential.


and to 8atman i dont have evidance but all i know is he is an experiment. and if he had any family the fbi and cops would have traked them down to find syalr.

[8atman]

I think I figured out the whole thing.
sylar is the Indian guy's father, the one who was doing all the research. he developed the powers he has, and wanted to know why.
The reason he cuts out the brains is do reserach them, and he gave himself the code name Sylar so as to differentiate the two. if you listen to the message machine tape, both voices sound very similar, as if he was talking to himself, only vaguely disguising teh voice of Sylar.
What might have happened is he went mad after senslessy killing these people, and developed a split personality. And, he was leaving clues, as he knew his son woudl be coming to finish his work. He felt Sylar was taking over, so he had to leave clues here and there for someone to stop him.
The HRG guy knows he was Sylar, and is trying to stop him before he gets to his daughter. he also knows he is not dead.
They were planting the bug thinking the son knows his father is still alive, and wanted to get an idea of where this man is, being as it woudl be pretty logical for the m to be in communication..


Whoa I like that one a lot, that would be very cool.

[8atman]

^ syalr and mohinders dad are two different people you theory could be possible but ehh


dr. suresh is played by Erick Avari, you can see him on the cover of that book peter petrelli is reading, about human evolution and potential.


and to 8atman i dont have evidance but all i know is he is an experiment. and if he had any family the fbi and cops would have traked them down to find syalr.

I"m sorry but if you have no facts it doesn't really work. You can't say I know it because I said so.

[The Question]

I think you are stretching this TK theory way to thin IMO anyways.

Odds are he may have TK but if he does it is coupled with other powers again IMO anyways.
I have a theory he may not have TK so much as telepathy and controlled the FBI agent's mind to point the gun at her own head regen to get up from being shot and flight when he flew away.
While that is a thin excuse its just as viable as your TK theory since both have holes the real odds are he has TK coupled with multiple other powers that I sepculate he gets from other hero's whose brains he has consumed.

Guess we will have to watch and find out good thing I love this show :)

TK has far fewer holes than simple mind control. Really, if we assume that Sylar is the most adept at his abilities out of the other "heroes," then there really aren't any holes with TK.

Sylar has AT LEAST 2 powers...possibly more.

We know almost certainly he has super strength (in order to life the woman up against the wall and stick her there with knives)
We also know he can freeze people...which is what he seems to like to do before taking out their brains. Or at least in the case of the last guy.

Nope. Lifting the woman can be explained with TK, as could the freezing if he is a very highly skilled telekinetic.

[aphro666]

^ syalr and mohinders dad are two different people you theory could be possible but ehh


dr. suresh is played by Erick Avari, you can see him on the cover of that book peter petrelli is reading, about human evolution and potential.

Which is how I developed my theory. Why would they have the most established actor in the cast play a picture on the back of a book?
That is what gave it away to me last night, it is turning into a typical father vs son emotional dilemna.

[Mixairian]

aww mybad totally 4got about that tape

yeah i was thinking that black guy is Nikis husband also. it make sense since they introduced him when Niki and her kid talked about him in this episode. if he is the one that can phase through the walls would that me he has more then one power? cause it seemed that the cop couldnt read his mind
Not true. The man just knows how to keep his head clear or block people from his thoughts. That's all mental, no powers involved. If you're the type who needs a power to explain everything, just say he can have parts of his body "phased out" and they're unreachable in that state (including his mind.)

The black guy (from the bar) is not Niki's husband
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9371/herosau1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
that guy (Leonard Roberts) (the one holding the kids hand) is Niki's husband

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8537/image2bz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
this is the guy (Jimmy Jean-Louis) is the guy form the bar

just, cause the guy in the bar was black, you assume he has to be the husband

Actually my assumption was based off of the two pictures. The top group one is of lesser quality and the man holding the child's hand is further in the background. At first glance one see's two black males, bald, similar height, build and bone facial structures. Quite an easy mistake at a glance.

I think you are stretching this TK theory way to thin IMO anyways.

Odds are he may have TK but if he does it is coupled with other powers again IMO anyways.
I have a theory he may not have TK so much as telepathy and controlled the FBI agent's mind to point the gun at her own head regen to get up from being shot and flight when he flew away.
While that is a thin excuse its just as viable as your TK theory since both have holes the real odds are he has TK coupled with multiple other powers that I sepculate he gets from other hero's whose brains he has consumed.

Guess we will have to watch and find out good thing I love this show :)

Telekinsis is a very powerful ability. The ability to "move objects without any physical contact." Take a dictionary and thesaurus and look up "object". Molecules are objects. Most folks think in a very flat manner and don't look at TK as anything more than lifting big things to toss around or to make oneself levitate. It's more than that. I believe it was the Authority that had a telekinetic who could only move very small objects. She was trained as an assassin and used her ability to move a gland within the human brain to kill her subjects. Towards the end of her life, she used her powers to lift thousands of molecules one at a time beneath the surface of Jerusalem to make the soil fertile.

Sometimes thinking big doesn't cut it.

Sylar has AT LEAST 2 powers...possibly more.

We know almost certainly he has super strength (in order to life the woman up against the wall and stick her there with knives)
We also know he can freeze people...which is what he seems to like to do before taking out their brains. Or at least in the case of the last guy.

I'm wondering if The Question is getting sick of typing this as often as I am. Telekinesis can describe both of those phenomenoms. TK to lift and stab and TK to remove the motion of the excited heat molecules in the person to freeze them.

What facts do you have to support your theory or that contradict my theory? You didn't put why you think that it's not peter.

Fact, Peter is empathic. He has a strong connection with his brother from years of contact. Peter would know if his brother was a psychotic serial murder.

Fact, the voice on the tape recorder WAS NOT Nathan by any stretch of voice modulation.

Fact, Nathan has been campaigning in NY for quite some time. Some of the murders have taken place quite a distance off.

Is this satisfactory?

I think I figured out the whole thing.
sylar is the Indian guy's father, the one who was doing all the research. he developed the powers he has, and wanted to know why.
The reason he cuts out the brains is do reserach them, and he gave himself the code name Sylar so as to differentiate the two. if you listen to the message machine tape, both voices sound very similar, as if he was talking to himself, only vaguely disguising teh voice of Sylar.
What might have happened is he went mad after senslessy killing these people, and developed a split personality. And, he was leaving clues, as he knew his son woudl be coming to finish his work. He felt Sylar was taking over, so he had to leave clues here and there for someone to stop him.
The HRG guy knows he was Sylar, and is trying to stop him before he gets to his daughter. he also knows he is not dead.
They were planting the bug thinking the son knows his father is still alive, and wanted to get an idea of where this man is, being as it woudl be pretty logical for the m to be in communication..

Split personality would only cause a repeat of Niki. The show at least so far has shown enough taste to NOT do repeat powers.

TK has far fewer holes than simple mind control. Really, if we assume that Sylar is the most adept at his abilities out of the other "heroes," then there really aren't any holes with TK.



Nope. Lifting the woman can be explained with TK, as could the freezing if he is a very highly skilled telekinetic.

Hey are you getting sick of repeating this same line as often as I am?

[Doobie88]

Which is how I developed my theory. Why would they have the most established actor in the cast play a picture on the back of a book?
That is what gave it away to me last night, it is turning into a typical father vs son emotional dilemna.

Is he not also the Narrirator? Would they realy have the main villan narrating the intro and ending of each episode?

I think Syler is the cute chick in Seresh's appartment. She was the only one who knew that Seresh went to Syler's appartment (aside for the fact he jimmied the lock). But that is just my shot in the dark guess because it defies logic, and I like cute girls.

[Eddie Brock]

Is he not also the Narrirator? Would they realy have the main villan narrating the intro and ending of each episode?

I think Syler is the cute chick in Seresh's appartment. She was the only one who knew that Seresh went to Syler's appartment (aside for the fact he jimmied the lock). But that is just my shot in the dark guess because it defies logic, and I like cute girls.
Mohinder is narrating, not his father

[aphro666]

Is he not also the Narrirator? Would they realy have the main villan narrating the intro and ending of each episode?

I think Syler is the cute chick in Seresh's appartment. She was the only one who knew that Seresh went to Syler's appartment (aside for the fact he jimmied the lock). But that is just my shot in the dark guess because it defies logic, and I like cute girls.
They have been saying all along that this is not yor typical hero show, and who you think is good can actually turn out to be bad. And, with the constant close-ups of the picture (much like the constant close ups of the gun they got from the guy in the hallway, which ends up being the gun hiro finds in the future), you know he is going to reapear, and not how you expect.

And, who is to say that a villain can't be the Narrator? That would make this an extraordinary show, which is what they were trying to do from teh get go.

[paulyfknt90]

I"m sorry but if you have no facts it doesn't really work. You can't say I know it because I said so.


i never said it was b/c i said so, so ur an ass


i garentee trere is no realation between peter and sylar, yes they have some of the same mimic powers but they dont habe to be realated to have that.


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[aphro666]

Split personality would only cause a repeat of Niki. The show at least so far has shown enough taste to NOT do repeat powers.
nikki doesn't have a split personality. She has a mirror image that actually can come out of the mirror, thus all the hints at "being in 2 places at once".
Think multiple man, only slightly different.

Edit: quoted wrong person

[paulyfknt90]

^ i never wrote that?

i think mixarian did

[Mixairian]

nikki doesn't have a split personality. She has a mirror image that actually can come out of the mirror, thus all the hints at "being in 2 places at once".
Think multiple man, only slightly different.

Edit: quoted wrong person
That hasn't been quite confirmed. What has been confirmed is that when that other person/her power is active, she blacks out. This is a common trait in diassociative identity disorder.

Also note in episode 2 after running away from the dead mafia men, she blacks out for 4 hours and has a new set of clothing on as well as having her mess cleaned.

So far the proof is for one body. Though a mirror body could also work though the one thing that still applies is that she has two identities.

[Majmun]

I haven't a different theory on Sylar. I believe he is Peter......Peter from the future. Think about it.....

What if when all of the heroes meet, Peter absorbs all of their powers, including but not limited to flight, indestructiblity, time traveling ability, and the evil side of Nikki. He hates what he has become and decides to travel back in time to destroy all of those who made him what he is.

In the Greek language, Sylar means Peter. Well, just kidding about that last part, but if it did then I would be right. :woot:

[Leto]

I respectfully disagree with the entirety on your theory aphro666.

1) Mohinder listened to a recorded phone conversation between his father and Sylar. Sylar's voice was very different from Mohinder's father's *and* Mohinder's for that matter. They used two different actors for two different voices.

2) Mohinder's dad believed Sylar was Patient Zero. According to Sylar's account the professor awakened Sylar to powers but now he has an "uncontrollable hunger." I just don't buy that it's a case of split personality. Why can't it be what it seems?

[NateGray]

TK has far fewer holes than simple mind control. Really, if we assume that Sylar is the most adept at his abilities out of the other "heroes," then there really aren't any holes with TK.



Nope. Lifting the woman can be explained with TK, as could the freezing if he is a very highly skilled telekinetic.

TK is thin because you are stretching it that somehow TK stopped the bullets but they still knockled him down.
Thats not any better than telepathy and regen and flight theory the only flaw in my theory is the way she is pushed to the wall.
As for holes I think TK alone definatly has holes and even though he may have telepathy I am betting he has regen flight and TK as well.

[Substance D]

In the Greek language, Sylar means Peter. Well, just kidding about that last part, but if it did then I would be right. :woot:

:woot:

[NateGray]

Not true. The man just knows how to keep his head clear or block people from his thoughts. That's all mental, no powers involved. If you're the type who needs a power to explain everything, just say he can have parts of his body "phased out" and they're unreachable in that state (including his mind.)



Actually my assumption was based off of the two pictures. The top group one is of lesser quality and the man holding the child's hand is further in the background. At first glance one see's two black males, bald, similar height, build and bone facial structures. Quite an easy mistake at a glance.



Telekinsis is a very powerful ability. The ability to "move objects without any physical contact." Take a dictionary and thesaurus and look up "object". Molecules are objects. Most folks think in a very flat manner and don't look at TK as anything more than lifting big things to toss around or to make oneself levitate. It's more than that. I believe it was the Authority that had a telekinetic who could only move very small objects. She was trained as an assassin and used her ability to move a gland within the human brain to kill her subjects. Towards the end of her life, she used her powers to lift thousands of molecules one at a time beneath the surface of Jerusalem to make the soil fertile.

Sometimes thinking big doesn't cut it.



I'm wondering if The Question is getting sick of typing this as often as I am. Telekinesis can describe both of those phenomenoms. TK to lift and stab and TK to remove the motion of the excited heat molecules in the person to freeze them.



Fact, Peter is empathic. He has a strong connection with his brother from years of contact. Peter would know if his brother was a psychotic serial murder.

Fact, the voice on the tape recorder WAS NOT Nathan by any stretch of voice modulation.

Fact, Nathan has been campaigning in NY for quite some time. Some of the murders have taken place quite a distance off.

Is this satisfactory?



Split personality would only cause a repeat of Niki. The show at least so far has shown enough taste to NOT do repeat powers.



Hey are you getting sick of repeating this same line as often as I am?

Well when you are wrong and refuse to admit it I guess you would be sick of saying the same wrong tripe over and over again.

TK CANNOT expalin how he was KNOCKED down from the bullets kktnx nice try.
As for TK stopping bullets I think you are Matrixing/Xmening TK you looked it up so hmmm one would think you would grasp how impossible it would be to stop a bullet using TK, you know a bullet that travels faster than the eye can see....
And we will not even mention he pumped like 5 rounds into him.

[Substance D]

sylar is peter's brother. that politican dude.

[PLAS]

I respectfully disagree with the entirety on your theory aphro666.

1) Mohinder listened to a recorded phone conversation between his father and Sylar. Sylar's voice was very different from Mohinder's father's *and* Mohinder's for that matter. They used two different actors for two different voices.

2) Mohinder's dad believed Sylar was Patient Zero. According to Sylar's account the professor awakened Sylar to powers but now he has an "uncontrollable hunger." I just don't buy that it's a case of split personality. Why can't it be what it seems?
because they have been messing with our heads for three weeks straight

[Mixairian]

TK is thin because you are stretching it that somehow TK stopped the bullets but they still knockled him down.
Thats not any better than telepathy and regen and flight theory the only flaw in my theory is the way she is pushed to the wall.
As for holes I think TK alone definatly has holes and even though he may have telepathy I am betting he has regen flight and TK as well.

Bullets move at over 30k MPH (I gotta find my old notes for the exact number). I believe themore accurate measurement is 1500/3000 feet per second but people understand MPH better. Anyhow, it's feesable that he stopped the bullets but because he was doing two things at once (trying to get the female to shoot herself), was caught off guard and the force of the bullets caused him to stop them but not as efficiently. Instead of the bullets penetrating his flesh and killing him, the effect was as if he was wearing a bullet proof vest... Which still hurts like hell and has the force to knock people over. Hollywood/Movies have ruined that aspect of getting shot.

Let's dumb this down a bit. View telekinesis as an invisible hand that when you want to move something, picks the object up and moves it to where it needs to be. That is the most simplest way to look at TK. The most rudimentary form.

Now what happens if instead of using that "hand" to grab we just put in front of someone to block their path. A "wall" of you will.

All Sylar would have to do is have that wall in front of him. The speed/force of the bullets could explain the effect that the wall slowed the bullets down to prevent the killing effect when they struck his body.

One could argue that how could Sylar be fast enough to put said wall up, considering the speed of the bullets but Matt did "appear" first and then fire. We also can work under the assumption that to do such a thing has become instinct for Sylar as he has been using for the longest out of all the characters that we've seen thus far.

TK.

Well when you are wrong and refuse to admit it I guess you would be sick of saying the same wrong tripe over and over again.

TK CANNOT expalin how he was KNOCKED down from the bullets kktnx nice try.
As for TK stopping bullets I think you are Matrixing/Xmening TK you looked it up so hmmm one would think you would grasp how impossible it would be to stop a bullet using TK, you know a bullet that travels faster than the eye can see....
And we will not even mention he pumped like 5 rounds into him.

I guess you're right, I have no way of---oh wait, the post right above this quote has the answer!

kkthnxggbaibai

((I was going to respond with some dignity and grace but I'm a gamer at heart and all taunts bring that out. :) ))

[Sub-Zero]

i thought it could be nathan for a while as well. but it really doesn't make sense. he's already a "shark" politician. why have him become more of an ---hole by making him the bad guy? also i think the only reason they got a name, i use the term loosely, for mohinder's father is because he is not really dead, and will appear later in the season.

one theory i had was that claire's dad's group created sylar as some sort of ultimate weapon, and he escaped. chandra suresh found him and tried to help him use his powers. he probably couldn't handle the magnitude of his powers and went crazy. maybe all of the "heroes" are just like him and he's going on a killing spree to try to find them and end their "misery."

[StorminNorman]

sylar is peter's brother. that politican dude.

No, he is not. Read the NBC Graphic Novels. Nathan will be a hero, he is just an ******* politician with superpowers right now.

[Substance D]

Bullets move at over 30k MPH (I gotta find my old notes for the exact number). I believe themore accurate measurement is 1500/3000 feet per second but people understand MPH better. Anyhow, it's feesable that he stopped the bullets but because he was doing two things at once (trying to get the female to shoot herself), was caught off guard and the force of the bullets caused him to stop them but not as efficiently. Instead of the bullets penetrating his flesh and killing him, the effect was as if he was wearing a bullet proof vest... Which still hurts like hell and has the force to knock people over. Hollywood/Movies have ruined that aspect of getting shot.

Let's dumb this down a bit. View telekinesis as an invisible hand that when you want to move something, picks the object up and moves it to where it needs to be. That is the most simplest way to look at TK. The most rudimentary form.

Now what happens if instead of using that "hand" to grab we just put in front of someone to block their path. A "wall" of you will.

All Sylar would have to do is have that wall in front of him. The speed/force of the bullets could explain the effect that the wall slowed the bullets down to prevent the killing effect when they struck his body.

One could argue that how could Sylar be fast enough to put said wall up, considering the speed of the bullets but Matt did "appear" first and then fire. We also can work under the assumption that to do such a thing has become instinct for Sylar as he has been using for the longest out of all the characters that we've seen thus far.

TK.



I guess you're right, I have no way of---oh wait, the post right above this quote has the answer!

kkthnxggbaibai

((I was going to respond with some dignity and grace but I'm a gamer at heart and all taunts bring that out. :) ))

it's not real. why are you writing long posts over something that will probably be disclosed in a few episodes? truth is, your opinion is no more valid than anyone elses. it's pointless to praddle on like this. you've stated ur beef, now wait and see if it's true or not. nerd. :yay:

[Mixairian]

it's not real. why are you writing long posts over something that will probably be disclosed in a few episodes? truth is, your opinion is no more valid than anyone elses. it's pointless to praddle on like this. you've stated ur beef, now wait and see if it's true or not. nerd. :yay:

It's not about being right or wrong right now. He made statements or claims and I've provided evidence to counter his. If I'm right, I will gloat and move on. If I'm wrong, I will apologize and move on. Point at hand is that an attack was made and I respond.

Also note, the word is prattle and by your same logic, none of us should be on the message boards discussing anything as it will be released to us eventually. So why are you even posting a response to me? ;)

[AtrophyG4]

I believe that Sylar is the black guy in the bar. He used whatever power(s) it is he has to overwhelm the cop and cause him to pass out. In the previews for episode 4, it shows the cop strapped to a hospital type bed with Mr. Glasses and the black guy over top of him. He asks "What do you want with me" and Glasses replies "We want to learn more about you" or something along those lines.

I am of the opinion that Sylar is working with Mr. Glasses to track down heroes so they can study their brains to learn what gives them their abilities. The very first episode, Mohinder is doing his lecture and says that humans only use 10% of our brains, what would we be capable of if we were able to unlock the other 90%. Different parts of the brain control different moods and actions, so it stands to reason that different sections would control extraordinary ablilities. It also makes more sense than a telekenetic zombie named Syler.

[Archangel]

I really hope their not basing a large chunk of their plot around the "10% of our brain" myth.

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

I believe that Sylar is the black guy in the bar. He used whatever power(s) it is he has to overwhelm the cop and cause him to pass out. In the previews for episode 4, it shows the cop strapped to a hospital type bed with Mr. Glasses and the black guy over top of him. He asks "What do you want with me" and Glasses replies "We want to learn more about you" or something along those lines.

I am of the opinion that Sylar is working with Mr. Glasses to track down heroes so they can study their brains to learn what gives them their abilities. The very first episode, Mohinder is doing his lecture and says that humans only use 10% of our brains, what would we be capable of if we were able to unlock the other 90%. Different parts of the brain control different moods and actions, so it stands to reason that different sections would control extraordinary ablilities. It also makes more sense than a telekenetic zombie named Syler.

Syler is definetly not the black guy from the bar. I taped and rewatched the episode last night. I then watched the Syler scene with the FBI cops in slow motion. He is definetly a white male and has a small stubble beard.

Honestly, I don't think we will see a full on Syler face shot until later in the season.

[AtrophyG4]

Syler is definetly not the black guy from the bar. I taped and rewatched the episode last night. I then watched the Syler scene with the FBI cops in slow motion. He is definetly a white male and has a small stubble beard.

Honestly, I don't think we will see a full on Syler face shot until later in the season.

Ah. I was basing the black guy being syler on the "S" shaped symbol necklace that he was wearing. That is same symbol that keeps appearing in different places (the code from the jump drive they found, the artist's scupture, Peter drew it in the corner of his stick figure picture...). So I thought the symbol was directly connected to Syler since he is "patient zero"

One thing is for sure, the guy in the bar is definately a bad guy since he is connected to Mr. Glasses according to this weeks preview and I stand by my conclusion that they are studying the brains of the "heroes" and they are not being consumed by some canabalistic psycho hero killer person.

[GhostPoet]

I thought it was pretty chilling that when the cop tried to read the black guys mind it was completely silent. Whoever this guy is, he's pretty powerful. I have no idea if he's good or bad...i'm leaning towards bad and may be connected to Mr. Glasses.

That scene with Sylar was pretty dang awesome the way he got up and the bullets fell off him. He either heals fast, has hard skin OR...what my wife suggested...he used mental powers to block the bullets. Which would make the most sense.

[The Only Woj]

Sylar appears to be Nikki's husband. In Ep3 he has wears a necklace in the bar that is the same as the tattoo on Nikki's back in Ep4 ... and the shape seen in the code of Mohinder's father ... and in one of Isaac's paintings.

[StorminNorman]

Nikki's husband is not the guy in the bar. I think Nikki's husband turns out to be a good guy (basing that on the Heroes promo pic of him holding baby geniuses hand).

I am still not sure if the black guy from the bar IS Sylar, I want to say no though just because I dont think Mister Glasses and Sylar are together.

[cheungcheung]

i can see future peter being sylar...

we all know peter can 'mimic' other heroes' powers when he is close to them.

perhaps as his power develops, he can absorb them like rogue.

maybe in the future, he comes in contact with nikki and he develops an 'id'/evil personality.... also, maybe he comes in contact with hiro, so he can manipulate time, etc etc....

[cerealkiller182]

I definately think Sylar is future Peter

[cerealkiller182]

I definately think Sylar is future Peter

[Amazing Afroman]

i can see future peter being sylar...

we all know peter can 'mimic' other heroes' powers when he is close to them.

perhaps as his power develops, he can absorb them like rogue.

maybe in the future, he comes in contact with nikki and he develops an 'id'/evil personality.... also, maybe he comes in contact with hiro, so he can manipulate time, etc etc....

That's a good theory.

[StorminNorman]

If they start doing "Sylar is from the future, WOOOO!" I will start losing intrest :(

Keep Sylar simply being a sadistic, evil bastard with a brain fetish and I will be good.

[burning-robot]

My theory.

Sylar is referred to as "patient zero" Which is usually the first person in a population to get a virus and pass it on to others. Maybe the hero gene is transmitted similar to a virus.

Maybe Mohinders Dad developed the virus to jump start the evolutionary process to save the world from famine/war/terrorism/ect.The virus works by unlocking a humans evolutionary potential(super-power) and effects everyone differently.

Mohinders dad gave it to Sylar and he went around spreading the hero-virus around. But the virus had an unknown side effect, it also unlocked the dark-side of human potential--- it will make the heroes into villains.

Sylar realized the danger of the hero-virus. He feels responsible for spreading it. To repent for his sins he is trying to stop the outbreak by trying to kill all the heroes, before they turn super-powerful and super-evil.

I'm not sure how it is spreads but, The virus must have something to do with the brains, thats why he takes them.


Sylar is trying to save the world.



also...
To find out "who" Sylar is go back a page and read aphro666's theory, that theory is so good it requires spoiler tags!

[Salemdog]

A guy I know also watches this show and has mentioned some things mentioned on anothe site. He says he saw that Syler hasn't been cast. I wasn't sure about this but then he also saw the "symbol" on Hiro's sword which I totally missed. So could it be Sylar is something they're holding off for a while and the guy trying for the girl was the black guy with Mr Glasses.

He also said someone had blown up pics from the wall and it was different people with the name Syler. Anyway..just so ya know. I'll have to ask for the site.

[The Question]

My theory.

Sylar is referred to as "patient zero" Which is usually the first person in a population to get a virus and pass it on to others. Maybe the hero gene is transmitted similar to a virus.

Maybe Mohinders Dad developed the virus to jump start the evolutionary process to save the world from famine/war/terrorism/ect.The virus works by unlocking a humans evolutionary potential(super-power) and effects everyone differently.

Mohinders dad gave it to Sylar and he went around spreading the hero-virus around. But the virus had an unknown side effect, it also unlocked the dark-side of human potential--- it will make the heroes into villains.

Sylar realized the danger of the hero-virus. He feels responsible for spreading it. To repent for his sins he is trying to stop the outbreak by trying to kill all the heroes, before they turn super-powerful and super-evil.

I'm not sure how it is spreads but, The virus must have something to do with the brains, thats why he takes them.


Sylar is trying to save the world.



also...
To find out "who" Sylar is go back a page and read aphro666's theory, that theory is so good it requires spoiler tags!

Yeah. Interesting theory, except for the whole "super powers make you evil" thing. Seems more likely that Sylar just lost it and decided that brutally murdering people and mutilating the bodies would be a grand old time.