View Full Version : Would You Want Wolverine To Have His Own Trilogy?
CrypticOne
10-04-2006, 09:27 PM
I was just wondering, would you guys want Wolverine to have his own trilogy? Do you think Hugh Jackman will stay that long? Do you think it can hold its own?
I personally would like the Wolverine movie to go into a trilogy. They can do so much with him.
lordofthenerds
10-04-2006, 09:39 PM
Hell no. One movie might even be too much.
shanti19
10-04-2006, 11:59 PM
I thought it would be a good spin off, I doubt it'll happen.
Savage
10-05-2006, 12:54 AM
It works best as a single. Just a more in-depth look into an X-man.
Mister J
10-05-2006, 12:56 AM
OK, somebody has to say it...
I thought the X-Men films were a Wolverine trilogy. :xmen:
ICXCNIKA
10-05-2006, 02:02 AM
OK, somebody has to say it...
I thought the X-Men films were a Wolverine trilogy. :xmen:
Good point. But I really do want a Wolverine trilogy. There are countless storylines to base the films on, and a lot of potential, there.
Cyclops
10-05-2006, 02:09 AM
Mister J beat me to it. Just one Wolverine film is fine. We already got three as is.
GoldGoblin
10-05-2006, 02:51 AM
Hell no. One movie might even be too much.
^Exactly.If anything this movie will bomb,and the studio will figure out that people don't like Wolverine as much as they thought.Then they could go and make an X4,and this time not have Wolverine as a main character as before,or maybe not have him in it at all.
So at least something good can come from this movie.:yay:
CrypticOne
10-05-2006, 12:57 PM
Good point. But I really do want a Wolverine trilogy. There are countless storylines to base the films on, and a lot of potential, there.
Yeah, they could do alot with Wolverine. But Mister J does have a good point that the X-Men trilogy was kind of a Wolverine trilogy, and I didn't like that, even though Wolverine is a cool character.
chaseter
10-05-2006, 03:14 PM
It could work.
x-fan
10-07-2006, 10:35 PM
had his own comic for twenty years, always in the top 20 so im sure it can go 3 movies, he has plenty of people that like him
TKing
10-08-2006, 08:19 AM
had his own comic for twenty years, always in the top 20 so im sure it can go 3 movies, he has plenty of people that like him
Perhaps fan boys like him. But I don't think the general public know him enough for the film studios to make 3 movies of him. IMO one is enough.
kakashi
10-08-2006, 09:04 AM
Considering the fact that the X-Men movies were a huge success,and Wolverine was more of less the central figure on those movies,i would have to say that the general audience probably know him by now.
Also,didn't the movie Wolverine was voted as the most popular movie character of the year or something like that by the entertaintment weekly magazine a while back? beating other movies characters such as harry potter nad shrek?
If this movie turns out to be succesfull,there's no doubt that they'll make more.
hutch007
10-08-2006, 06:53 PM
i think he should have his own trilogy, but it'll be tough because its a prequel.
Savage
10-08-2006, 07:23 PM
A trilogy is a bit much imo and he's my favorite Marvel character. To me a tv series would have been much smarter. His origin issues is enough to last seasons upon seasons and you'd have his side-stories. It wouldn't cost any more than Blade: The Series did, if not less because people don't ash when he kills them. A trilogy to me is just...too grand for this character.
Cinemaman
10-09-2006, 05:20 AM
I doubt WV will make so huge box office (especially after X3 terrible legs), so that is why I don't think there will be even sequel.
kakashi
10-09-2006, 09:48 AM
X3 may have 'terrible legs',but it was a box office hit nonetheless.
Wolverine movie probably wouldn't cost half as much as the X-Men movies, it wouldn't need to make five hundred million dollars profits for the studio to guarantee a sequel.
TequilaBob
10-20-2006, 12:12 AM
Yeah, Wolverine could go a trilogy. I'd see them. Jackman's contract for the solo flick probably has a sequel clause in it anyway. If it did become a trilogy, or more, how would you like to see it done? All of the movies as prequels to the X movies or the first as a prequel and the rest as adventures set after X3?
WeaponXProject
10-22-2006, 02:13 AM
Yea, he deserves it, he's the deepest character with the longest story. To all the punks who voted no...why not? He has the most story and is the most beloved, are you jealous? His story is too long for a single movie. You know that!
WeaponXProject
10-22-2006, 02:21 AM
A trilogy is a bit much imo and he's my favorite Marvel character. To me a tv series would have been much smarter. His origin issues is enough to last seasons upon seasons and you'd have his side-stories. It wouldn't cost any more than Blade: The Series did, if not less because people don't ash when he kills them. A trilogy to me is just...too grand for this character.
But he's more than a TV mini-series! His story is too long and corse for a crappy low budget tv series. And who would buy it? Sci-Fi? Spike? A major channel? Doubtful. It's one movie and you go from there. It will do well enough with a much lower budget than X2 or X3. Easily. If it was a TV series what would you expect Wolverine: CSI or Logan PD Blue? That wouldn't work, it's for the fans and the fans want a long well drawn story of Logan's past. And, trust me, I'm not attacking you but the Blade mini-series, which I knew would only last months, is getting canceled and I thought he was popular enough for his own show. Seriously, Hugh Jackman is no sitcom star or live action star. He is big screen hero and everyman and he is made for the big big drama.
Who else deserves a series? If any, Gambit.
TequilaBob
10-22-2006, 08:21 PM
Gambit could definately handle at least one movie of his own. I can't really see him as a movie series, but hey, I'd love to be wrong if it was cool enough. I could see him in his own first flick and then transfer him over to X4 or something like that...
Loganbabe
10-24-2006, 04:22 AM
Seriously, Hugh Jackman is no sitcom star or live action star. He is big screen hero and everyman and he is made for the big big drama.
Hell yeah! :word::up:
Who else deserves a series? If any, Gambit.
Hell no... :csad:
:oldrazz: :woot:
Savage
10-24-2006, 08:52 AM
But he's more than a TV mini-series! His story is too long and corse for a crappy low budget tv series. And who would buy it? Sci-Fi? Spike? A major channel? Doubtful. It's one movie and you go from there. It will do well enough with a much lower budget than X2 or X3. Easily. If it was a TV series what would you expect Wolverine: CSI or Logan PD Blue? That wouldn't work, it's for the fans and the fans want a long well drawn story of Logan's past. And, trust me, I'm not attacking you but the Blade mini-series, which I knew would only last months, is getting canceled and I thought he was popular enough for his own show. Seriously, Hugh Jackman is no sitcom star or live action star. He is big screen hero and everyman and he is made for the big big drama.
Who else deserves a series? If any, Gambit.
You just said it in your second line. His story is too long. It's too big. You think 6 hours is going to handle all of that? 30 years in comics hasn't been able to handle all of that yet. A moderately mudget tv series is fine. Like I said, the show would cost less than Blade since it requires less CGI. A Wolverine series could be the modern Incredible Hulk with him going from place to place in search of clues to his origin.
antonydelfini
10-24-2006, 09:04 AM
Wolverine is marvel's number two man. If we are not going to get more x-men films, wolverines's the logical choice to have as fox's marvel franchise.
flavio_lebeau
10-24-2006, 10:26 AM
Hell no. One movie might even be too much.
said it all.
WeaponXProject
10-24-2006, 11:00 PM
Wow, for all the story and versatility this character has you go and say that. They've thought sequel from the get go. I mean you could make one movie about the Weapon X project. You could make another about his gov't team ups with other superhero's. His life after X-Men. His life in Japan. Him figuring out what all happened and then him going back for revenge.
Anyways, this flavio person is ridiculous to say that. And then he or she quoted a Lord Of the Rings fan. Hey Lords fan if they are thinking about making two hobbit movies. Why can't they make more than one Wolvy movie. Yea, seriously....two The Hobbit movies. What a ridiculous point. Your playing checkers, bub.
Wolverine Fan
10-24-2006, 11:01 PM
I say YES!! I love the charater Wolverine.
WeaponXProject
10-24-2006, 11:06 PM
You just said it in your second line. His story is too long. It's too big. You think 6 hours is going to handle all of that? 30 years in comics hasn't been able to handle all of that yet. A moderately mudget tv series is fine. Like I said, the show would cost less than Blade since it requires less CGI. A Wolverine series could be the modern Incredible Hulk with him going from place to place in search of clues to his origin.
Dude, look what happened to Blade. It's getting dropped. And I don't want some no name no talent playing Logan. How they gonna do his healing factor without CGI or his claws coming in and out? Or the fight scenes? The Hulk worked cause Lou was huge and that's as close as you got to CGI back then. Since Logan has already been on the bigscreen then TV would have a lot to live up to. Logan on TV, and on a station not many people watch. Nah! Not likely. Big Screen, in three movies or more. Marvel knows better than to make a TV show when the Box office is where the money is whether its' doing well or not. 300 some odd million would feel better than 30 million on TV with nobody watching. And Hugh won't do TV consistantly.
Savage
10-25-2006, 09:14 AM
I see a tv series as a chance to get someone who looks more faithful to the character (and not just a Hugh lookalike, I'd hope). Healing quickly has become cheap on tv and I'm sure they'd use a dummy hand for the claws and maybe on rare occasions use CGI. Wolverine isn't a CG heavy character. His fights could be like his fight with Sabretooth where the healing factor was pretty much implied. We don't need to see him heal or anything. Just that the cuts are gone.
And I'm sure FOX or FX would take Wolverine. As for Blade? The show was good and had decent ratings. I really don't understand why Spike dropped it for more UFC and CSI reruns. I'm sure that show would have stood a better chance on FX or something. You have to take into account who is more popular to the public eye though. Blade or Wolverine? People would be al over a Wolverine show and we wouldn't wonder about "They cut that guy out?!" or "aww man. I really wish they were going with this storyline.".
WeaponXProject
10-25-2006, 03:55 PM
I see a tv series as a chance to get someone who looks more faithful to the character (and not just a Hugh lookalike, I'd hope). Healing quickly has become cheap on tv and I'm sure they'd use a dummy hand for the claws and maybe on rare occasions use CGI. Wolverine isn't a CG heavy character. His fights could be like his fight with Sabretooth where the healing factor was pretty much implied. We don't need to see him heal or anything. Just that the cuts are gone.
And I'm sure FOX or FX would take Wolverine. As for Blade? The show was good and had decent ratings. I really don't understand why Spike dropped it for more UFC and CSI reruns. I'm sure that show would have stood a better chance on FX or something. You have to take into account who is more popular to the public eye though. Blade or Wolverine? People would be al over a Wolverine show and we wouldn't wonder about "They cut that guy out?!" or "aww man. I really wish they were going with this storyline.".
That's what I mean though, I am worried about the story line. I don't car what is successful or not. I just want it to be done right. ANd it definitely has a better chance to be done well on the Big Screen where the writers really care about what is in the movie.
ANd half the fun of watching Wolvy was the fact that he healed before your eyes and how you could see the metal underneath and all. His claws coming out of his hands are huge scenes. Especially when you see them slowly come out of his hands or rise out quickly. That's the intimidation of Wolverine, hes relentless, he'll never stop, the healing represents that.
Bottom line is I think we would all rather have a movie series of Logan than a tv show where most live-action shows are unsuccesful.
Savage
10-25-2006, 06:47 PM
A big screen adaption would be nice but I just hate it when integral parts or characters even are cut out. I mean a tv series would get to delve fully into something like Origin or Weapon X. In a movie, Origin will be cut down to like 10 minutes. His escape from Weapon X will be all that is shown with not even a mension of Corneleus by name or any of those guys. The movie will pretty much end up being an attempt to mash years and years into a movie. Wolverine is such a character that his origin alone is a full length movie. That's what bugs me about a movie. Blink and you just missed 7 issues.
I love the idea of a Wolverine movie. Don't get me wrong. I'll be right there in line. I just think more justice can be brought to the character (and the x-men in general) on the small screen...Especially with someone like Whedon to take what he does in the comics to the screen...Too bad he's busy with Wonder Woman.
larryfilmmaker
10-26-2006, 01:32 AM
[quote=WeaponXProject]Yea, he deserves it, he's the deepest character with the longest story. To all the punks who voted no...why not? He has the most story and is the most beloved, are you jealous? quote]
Yes, you figured it out. People who don't want 3 more Wolverine movies on top of the 3 we just had are simply jealous of him. Good work.
WeaponXProject
10-26-2006, 01:33 AM
I agree with that. That's what this discussion is about. Should there be more than one movie. Yeap. I hope your right about the Origin stuff, that's all I really want to see in this besides the Weapon X blow out. There is alot in little time, but it worked in Star Wars Episode III.
Atleast we both can't wait for this movie. I'm pumped for it, bub.:wolverine
larryfilmmaker
10-26-2006, 01:37 AM
Especially with someone like Whedon to take what he does in the comics to the screen...Too bad he's busy with Wonder Woman.
the last thing I want is more of Whedon's "witty sarcasm" flowing from the mouths of every character in a Wolverine movie. I do think he comes up with good situations to put characters in and creative ways of getting them out... but when it comes to dialogue, I think Whedon just plain sucks. it works on the written page of course, for X-Men or whatever... but in his tv shows, in my opinion, it's absolute cheese. I'd be worried about him filling a famous title like "Wolverine" with those corny one liners. Then again, the audience today eats that stuff up.
WeaponXProject
10-26-2006, 01:38 AM
Yea Larry but the movies were about current Wolverine, not a prequel. That's what there making. I already said I agree that wolvy was to much of the main plot of all three movies but we all liked 'em. They will make a movie about Gambit some day and more Xmen movies. And alot of people are starting to say that they don't even think Cyclops is dead. I'm more pessimistic than them but he could be alive. Technically she never admits to killing Scott in X3. Nor do we see him disappear, he may have got knocked into the woods. And if she couldn't kill Logan then she definitely could not kill Scott. And I know everyone's saying Logan has a healing factor but if she wanted to....that could have been it for Logan.
TKing
10-26-2006, 05:38 AM
Technically she never admits to killing Scott in X3. Nor do we see him disappear, he may have got knocked into the woods. And if she couldn't kill Logan then she definitely could not kill Scott.
But the nature of Jean's power, remember, is unstable, erratic. She can demolecurise people at will. She could have killed him and we'd be none the wiser.
And if she killed Xavier without a second's thought, why in the world wouldn't she kill Logan? After all, he has only known her for a few years, and they weren't even a real couple. Xavier, on the other hand, is like a father to Jean. A friend/mentor. They have known each other since Jean was a young girl. Why would she kill a man whom she respected and cared for, instead of a loner like Wolverine?
Savage
10-26-2006, 08:56 AM
the last thing I want is more of Whedon's "witty sarcasm" flowing from the mouths of every character in a Wolverine movie. I do think he comes up with good situations to put characters in and creative ways of getting them out... but when it comes to dialogue, I think Whedon just plain sucks. it works on the written page of course, for X-Men or whatever... but in his tv shows, in my opinion, it's absolute cheese. I'd be worried about him filling a famous title like "Wolverine" with those corny one liners. Then again, the audience today eats that stuff up.
Eh. I'd be fine if he just copied and pasted his work from Astonishing X-men. Yes on tv his stuff comes off as cheese but that's half the fun. He can do over the top just right. That's why I felt he was perfect for X-men and he has proved that with his work on Astonishing...Hell, he even managed to make sense of the costumes. He practically brought them back.
WeaponXProject
10-26-2006, 02:08 PM
But the nature of Jean's power, remember, is unstable, erratic. She can demolecurise people at will. She could have killed him and we'd be none the wiser.
And if she killed Xavier without a second's thought, why in the world wouldn't she kill Logan? After all, he has only known her for a few years, and they weren't even a real couple. Xavier, on the other hand, is like a father to Jean. A friend/mentor. They have known each other since Jean was a young girl. Why would she kill a man whom she respected and cared for, instead of a loner like Wolverine?
But Magneto made it seem as Prof. X manipulated her and held her back. Magneto tricked her into it. Even Prof. said I had to keep you from being Phoenix. And how Wolverine showed his relentless pursuit to help/stop her at the end, I don't think she had it in her. It made for great drama as well.
larryfilmmaker
10-30-2006, 09:47 AM
I see a tv series as a chance to get someone who looks more faithful to the character (and not just a Hugh lookalike, I'd hope). Healing quickly has become cheap on tv and I'm sure they'd use a dummy hand for the claws and maybe on rare occasions use CGI. Wolverine isn't a CG heavy character. His fights could be like his fight with Sabretooth where the healing factor was pretty much implied. We don't need to see him heal or anything. Just that the cuts are gone.
And I'm sure FOX or FX would take Wolverine. As for Blade? The show was good and had decent ratings. I really don't understand why Spike dropped it for more UFC and CSI reruns. I'm sure that show would have stood a better chance on FX or something. You have to take into account who is more popular to the public eye though. Blade or Wolverine? People would be al over a Wolverine show and we wouldn't wonder about "They cut that guy out?!" or "aww man. I really wish they were going with this storyline.".
Dude this could be amazing... a Wolverine TV series. I'd have to say it'd only fit on HBO though because it should be pure story. No commercials, no dumbed down plotlines, etc. I wish the current X-Men films and new Wolverine movies would disappear from existance and that NEW X-Men films (awesome teamwork filled, prejudice-based, loyal to EVERY character versions) took their place... making Wolverine a Boba-Fett-like character, often in the shadows with unclear intentions. He would be HUGE if they let him be a loner like uhh... Wolverine IS. Then, after an awesome X-trilogy... maybe Wolvie could leave the team in the last film and have his own tv show where he tries to rediscover his past (fill it with tons of flash backs and scenes in the old west, etc)
We're simply not going to get the depth these characters and stories deserve with the star of the movies working as producer. It's going to be a Hugh Jackman vehicle (like the x-men movies were) that cements his not very strong movie lead status (not strong because of Kate and Leopold, Someone like You, Van Helsing, etc) and we're in for one more dumb ass story before this series finally dies.
WeaponXProject
10-30-2006, 03:58 PM
We're simply not going to get the depth these characters and stories deserve with the star of the movies working as producer. It's going to be a Hugh Jackman vehicle (like the x-men movies were) that cements his not very strong movie lead status (not strong because of Kate and Leopold, Someone like You, Van Helsing, etc) and we're in for one more dumb ass story before this series finally dies.
Blah, blah, blah...you're hating on Hugh when he first started he's evolved since then. He was just getting his shoes wet and that's all. This story, sworn by Jackman and Stan Lee, is to be the darkest and most dimensional of the X films. They plan on worrying more about one character, his beginning, his truths, his pain, than an expansive amount of characters like in the Xmen films. Though the Xmen films are mostly controlled through Wolverine, this movie is understood by the fans to be that way. No doubts should be made about this film until we find a director and character list and a brief synopsis. I think it is obvious that this movie will be much different than the other X-Men movies, considering Jackman, Lee and Avi Arad has said so, and we can expect it to be less of a one-liner beat ass film and more of a discovery and drama that is his origin. I do agree that it should be more like the comic where Wolverine is a loner and a shadow hidden character but I say to you it will be that way.
swifty
10-31-2006, 11:34 AM
I doubt a trilogy will happen since wolverine is such a universaly hated character these days, infact I really think many with boycott it or something.
WeaponXProject
10-31-2006, 11:44 AM
Swifty that is one of those statements in which I can't understand where you would get your evidence from. Who hates Wolverine? If Wolverine is so hated then why are his sales on his Origin story going up and why is the DVD of X3 one of the hottest on the market. Who would boycott this? An anti-Marvel fan? This is what half the Xmen fans have been waiting for! I'm pumped
larryfilmmaker
10-31-2006, 12:45 PM
Blah, blah, blah...you're hating on Hugh when he first started he's evolved since then. He was just getting his shoes wet and that's all. This story, sworn by Jackman and Stan Lee, is to be the darkest and most dimensional of the X films. They plan on worrying more about one character, his beginning, his truths, his pain, than an expansive amount of characters like in the Xmen films. Though the Xmen films are mostly controlled through Wolverine, this movie is understood by the fans to be that way. No doubts should be made about this film until we find a director and character list and a brief synopsis. I think it is obvious that this movie will be much different than the other X-Men movies, considering Jackman, Lee and Avi Arad has said so, and we can expect it to be less of a one-liner beat ass film and more of a discovery and drama that is his origin. I do agree that it should be more like the comic where Wolverine is a loner and a shadow hidden character but I say to you it will be that way.
Wolverine did not evolve. They even filmed a deleted scene where he was in a cage match at the end of X3. Evolved nothing.
Stan Lee didn't create Wolverine. Lee's X-Men icons were dead by the end of the trilogy.
Avi Arad also claimed that Fantastic Four, Daredevil, and Hulk would blow the fans away. He's a proven *******.
You like Wolverine... A LOT... it's in your name and you patrol these Wolvie forums like a guardian. A love for the character doesn't justify others being ignored, and it doesn't make everything that has to do with Wolverine great.
larryfilmmaker
10-31-2006, 12:52 PM
I doubt a trilogy will happen since wolverine is such a universaly hated character these days, infact I really think many with boycott it or something.
I don't think that he's more hated than loved. He's still very popular... but that popularity is clearly waning as he becomes involved in every aspect of something Marvel-related. His face is becoming so commercialized on video games, comics, movies, etc that it goes against his bad ass, loner appeal. We're seeing him in big save-the-world scenarios and fighting alongside all these different teams and that's just not Wolverine. I think that you MAY be right about the majority hating him if this Wolverine movie is terrible... but he'll always have his fans. Hell, I'm a huge Wolverine fan.. I just think he's watered down and way over done these days simply because of popularity.
WeaponXProject
10-31-2006, 10:38 PM
Wolverine did not evolve. They even filmed a deleted scene where he was in a cage match at the end of X3. Evolved nothing.
Stan Lee didn't create Wolverine. Lee's X-Men icons were dead by the end of the trilogy.
Avi Arad also claimed that Fantastic Four, Daredevil, and Hulk would blow the fans away. He's a proven *******.
You like Wolverine... A LOT... it's in your name and you patrol these Wolvie forums like a guardian. A love for the character doesn't justify others being ignored, and it doesn't make everything that has to do with Wolverine great.
I didn't say Wolverine evolved in the films I said Hugh as an actor as evolved. I never said Lee created Wolverine but he did have the ultimate say on Wolverine. Why are you doubting David Benioff's story line. Though Arad claimed those would be good, and they weren't besides the Hulk, don't you think that was because the comic book movie craze was just starting then. I mean these movies, the XMENs, Spidermans, and others are now fan favorites. If you don't like Wolverine or an idea of him having multiple films you should say why. I've read the comics, I know his story, he can't fit in just one movie. And for the point of Hugh being excited about Benioff...he damn well should be. He is one of the most popular screen writers in Holywood right now. The doubts should be from what the movie surrounds not what few of the bad movies marvel has made has done wrong. No matter if you liked Xmen 1, 2, or 3 they were successful and there is a good chance Wolverine will be too.
Mike059jig
10-31-2006, 10:48 PM
Wolverine Trilogy...Hell no....a Trilogy on showing wolvering past would be so boring....Weapon X is good enough like screens from X2.....Wolverine on his on doesn't have any type of intriging villians to help carry him.....Spider-man,Batman, Superman has great # of rogue gallery that are interestiong than wolverine villians....
One movie is more than enough
WeaponXProject
11-01-2006, 12:28 AM
Sabretooth, Silver Samurai, Wendigo, Lady Deathstrike, Stryker, the gov't itself...they are all villains of Wolverine and before hand.
Spiderman has intriguing villains...what? He has three and he's the main character. He has Carnage, Green Goblin, and Venom, and maybe the Lizard.....that's all. Besides that he has Doc Ock who looks like Elton John with tentacles, Rhino just sad enough there, the Vulture, the werewolf guy that sux, Mysterio has a ****ing fish bowl for a mask.
Sups has terrible villains besides Lex and Zod.
The only one with an up on him is Batman.
How could you think that one scene in X2 had enough of Weapon X project to satisfy any fans? If any it was a teaser of things to come.
And if you knew his past you would say "Man that is way too long for one movie." And I don't think anyone thought the trilogy was all his past. The final could be him searching for his past truths and figuring which ones were gov't made or not.
If any...he deserves atleast two movies.
WeaponXProject
11-01-2006, 12:29 AM
Sabretooth, Silver Samurai, Wendigo, Lady Deathstrike, Stryker, the gov't itself...they are all villains of Wolverine and before hand.
Spiderman has intriguing villains...what? He has three and he's the main character. He has Carnage, Green Goblin, and Venom, and maybe the Lizard.....that's all. Besides that he has Doc Ock who looks like Elton John with tentacles, Rhino just sad enough there, the Vulture, the werewolf guy that sux, Mysterio has a ****ing fish bowl for a mask.
Sups has terrible villains besides Lex and Zod.
The only one with an up on him is Batman.
How could you think that one scene in X2 had enough of Weapon X project to satisfy any fans? If any it was a teaser of things to come.
And if you knew his past you would say "Man that is way too long for one movie." And I don't think anyone thought the trilogy was all his past. The final could be him searching for his past truths and figuring which ones were gov't made or not.
If any...he deserves atleast two movies.
larryfilmmaker
11-01-2006, 01:49 AM
If you don't like Wolverine or an idea of him having multiple films you should say why.
Because FOX doesn't give a crap about telling truly compelling stories OR being loyal to the X-Men mythology.
1) Wolverine is not 6'3".
2) Wolverine is not the central hero of the Phoenix storyline and the only one who can stop the Phoenix.
3) Wolverine, in his "berskerker rage", would kill his own teammates (especially in the early days)... he doesn't just huff, puff, and stab some soldiers in the chest.
4) Wolverine doesn't make wisecracks like a class clown making fun of the other students. he gets shots in sometimes, but not like a clown
5) William Stryker was a preacher who murdered his newborn baby and his wife in cold blood the moment he saw his son was a mutant. He was not a scientist in charge of the Weapon X program, he had nothing to do with Wolverine in any way... we're going to get more confusing garbage like this...
6) Sabretooth was not a two dimensional moron who grunted and snarled once in a while
My point is, Avi Arad and Fox don't care about staying loyal to the subject matter. They have proven that point time and time again, but the X-fans keep coming back for more asian callistos and a wolverine who isn't only taller than wolverine is in the comics... but he's actually much taller than the average height! I understand that some things need to be changed in the transition to the big screen, but they barely even stay loyal to the underlying THEMES of the X-Tales. Now we've got yet another X-Men movie with the main actor working as producer. That is absolute garbage and shouldn't even be allowed in my opinion. That doesn't mean he's working hard to make sure the movie is good, it means he wants control or he's not doing it fools. He did it on X3 and we all remember how great of a film that turned out to be...
I want a FAN who understands how to translate to make the X-Men movies... not somebody who admits to never having read them before.
I've read the comics, I know his story, he can't fit in just one movie.
that's because you're trying to cram every little detail and in comic land, that's impossible. You have to stay true to the THEMES and important events. There are like 30 years of Wolverine story... of course it won't fit. Know what? There are like 50 years of Cyclops stories... there are 70 years of Superman stories... of course you can make a single movie about ANY comic book character. Wolverine is not on the top of the comic book character list when it comes to compelling storytelling. I say that belongs to the icons like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and the X-Men TEAM.
muscaremy
11-01-2006, 02:34 AM
dont disagree with u but he didnt seem like a clown with his comebacks to me...wasnt as hard as his normal comebacks but still not clown like
WeaponXProject
11-01-2006, 02:45 AM
Because FOX doesn't give a crap about telling truly compelling stories OR being loyal to the X-Men mythology.
1) Wolverine is not 6'3".
2) Wolverine is not the central hero of the Phoenix storyline and the only one who can stop the Phoenix.
3) Wolverine, in his "berskerker rage", would kill his own teammates (especially in the early days)... he doesn't just huff, puff, and stab some soldiers in the chest.
4) Wolverine doesn't make wisecracks like a class clown making fun of the other students. he gets shots in sometimes, but not like a clown
5) William Stryker was a preacher who murdered his newborn baby and his wife in cold blood the moment he saw his son was a mutant. He was not a scientist in charge of the Weapon X program, he had nothing to do with Wolverine in any way... we're going to get more confusing garbage like this...
6) Sabretooth was not a two dimensional moron who grunted and snarled once in a while
My point is, Avi Arad and Fox don't care about staying loyal to the subject matter. They have proven that point time and time again, but the X-fans keep coming back for more asian callistos and a wolverine who isn't only taller than wolverine is in the comics... but he's actually much taller than the average height! I understand that some things need to be changed in the transition to the big screen, but they barely even stay loyal to the underlying THEMES of the X-Tales. Now we've got yet another X-Men movie with the main actor working as producer. That is absolute garbage and shouldn't even be allowed in my opinion. That doesn't mean he's working hard to make sure the movie is good, it means he wants control or he's not doing it fools. He did it on X3 and we all remember how great of a film that turned out to be...
I want a FAN who understands how to translate to make the X-Men movies... not somebody who admits to never having read them before.
that's because you're trying to cram every little detail and in comic land, that's impossible. You have to stay true to the THEMES and important events. There are like 30 years of Wolverine story... of course it won't fit. Know what? There are like 50 years of Cyclops stories... there are 70 years of Superman stories... of course you can make a single movie about ANY comic book character. Wolverine is not on the top of the comic book character list when it comes to compelling storytelling. I say that belongs to the icons like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and the X-Men TEAM.
What you know Benioff was a big Wolverine fan and ditched other projects to do the movie script. He said he read a ton of his comics and his history can be peiced together in them.
Points one through six are not changeble now and have no issue in effecting his origin besides the fact that Sabretooth sucked in the X1.
Cyk has 50 years right? 50 years of being the same boyscout character that says and does everything right.
Superman has had 5 movies now and another coming so I think Logan can have one about his beginning.
What is not compelling about Wolverine...the fact that he had clues of his unanswered past and he went on searches to find out the truth....if it is not compelling then why is it the anchor of the X universe in the fact that they alluded to his past and the puzzles to them....the most compelling part is the fact that we don't know it all. We don't know everything that happened to him, whether he was a good agent when he worked in the gov't, whether he agreed or was tricked into doing the Weapon X project. And most of all we don't know what he'd do if he found it out and went back retracing his steps. If that's not compelling than what is? Cyclops' first pair of goggles. His leadership roles which are always the same. Flat characters don't make for compelling films. Rounded one do, mystical ones do...Wolverine is all of this.
RonStoppablefan
11-01-2006, 06:32 PM
I say yes, a Wolverine Trilogy would rock!
swifty
11-01-2006, 08:26 PM
Swifty that is one of those statements in which I can't understand where you would get your evidence from. Who hates Wolverine? If Wolverine is so hated then why are his sales on his Origin story going up and why is the DVD of X3 one of the hottest on the market. Who would boycott this? An anti-Marvel fan? This is what half the Xmen fans have been waiting for! I'm pumped
Trust me I'm with you on this, it's just that I've come across many negative comments from fans... like he's over used, he's becoming a lame character, he's drawn too much like Hugh Jackman, I hate the X-men trilogy cuz of too much wolvie......and so on so forth. Don't get me wrong I really do hope we get a wolvie trilogy.
WeaponXProject
11-02-2006, 11:36 AM
Trust me I'm with you on this, it's just that I've come across many negative comments from fans... like he's over used, he's becoming a lame character, he's drawn too much like Hugh Jackman, I hate the X-men trilogy cuz of too much wolvie......and so on so forth. Don't get me wrong I really do hope we get a wolvie trilogy.
Cool, trust me I understand why people hate the Wolvie in the X trilogy but I kinda like it. I kind of understand that the movie business and the comics are two different worlds. So we got our Wolvie in the comics and our Wolvie in the movies....know what I mean. The translation from comics to film is difficult. I wish they had done it better but I'm proud that they made a great effort. I do think we get the real Wolvie in some parts but in others...not so much.
You see I LOVE the Wolvie in the comics and I just LIKE the Wolvie on film. I do wish it could be more like the comics like Larry says. Oh well, I'm still satisfied.
Oh and I know people are tired of seeing Wolvie in X films but it'll cool down by the time the movie comes out in 08 or 09. I hope we don't get annoyed by the same old Wolvie from the movies but on the contrary it sounds like he's gonna be a lot different. Especially cause there's a new writer and Marvel Studios(there own film studios...yes that's badass) will have creative control.
Mike059jig
11-02-2006, 05:18 PM
Blade Deserves a Trilogy not Wolverine!!!!!......
WeaponXProject
11-04-2006, 12:40 AM
I like Blade...but seriously...beyond his first film the series went down hill and not much was expected with Blade as is Wolverine. They really didn't have to follow Blade's comic book story for it to be successful. With Wolverine there are alot of diehard fans and it would be a travasty to me if they threw all his past, his struggle to deal with the past and his closure to be in one film. Blade is sweet, I love the movies but I don't respect them as great films bc no one went to see them expecting Blade to be parallel to his comic character. Wolverine has expectations, atleast from me, they can't just be beat 'em all up and have him fight Sabretooth to be a prequel. Besides, though Blade's past is sad and he sought revenge for what was done to him, his past is not as deep and long as Logan's. But once again let me convince you...I love Blade.
Is there a reason he doesn't deserve a trilogy or even a sequel? Serious question that cant be answered with he doesn't deserve it.
CrypticOne
11-04-2006, 12:32 PM
I think the second Blade was pretty cool. Now Trinity was where it went downhill. But I think the people in control can together a Wolverine trilogy and make it good. They really need to think about the story and everything. I read somewhere that Vinnie Jones might be returning as Juggernaut, and I ask, why? Do not put Juggernaut in this movie. Sabretooth is the right choice.
ICXCNIKA
11-04-2006, 12:42 PM
I agree! Sabretooth--no Juggernaut!
MoPlaYa43
11-04-2006, 12:43 PM
I wouldn`t mind a Wolverine trilogy as long as they made more X-Men movies...I love Wolverine and he is one of my favorite X-Men but I want to see my other favorite X-Men get to shine in some movies like Colossus,Angel,Gambit,Iceman,Beast,Bishop and Emma
WeaponXProject
11-05-2006, 08:22 PM
I agree about Sabretooth and no Juggs. I want to see more X movies too. But most of all I want to see Gambit in those movies.
Deep Thinkin'!
11-11-2006, 10:45 PM
Being a Wolvie fan I would like it, but I already know it won't happen.
I remember Hugh saying that he does love this character, but he DID say he couldn't pull it off forever. (He's getting closer to age 40, and his age showed in X3, but then again, it would have been just fine if he had better hair)
WeaponXProject
11-14-2006, 11:50 PM
But the character has looked 35 to 40 something his whole X career. Hugh getting older really helps with how Wolvy should look. The last thing I want is a replacement. And if they can get a trilogy or one sequel done before he turns 46 then that means he just doesn't want the part anymore. And I don't think thats the case. I think he just met for X4 or X5 and on.
Crimson_L
11-17-2006, 02:49 PM
Hell no. One movie might even be too much.
I agree. Hell no!
Horhey
11-17-2006, 05:30 PM
But the character has looked 35 to 40 something his whole X career. Hugh getting older really helps with how Wolvy should look. The last thing I want is a replacement. And if they can get a trilogy or one sequel done before he turns 46 then that means he just doesn't want the part anymore. And I don't think thats the case. I think he just met for X4 or X5 and on.
Actually Wolverine is supposed to be like a 35 year old in his prime, even though hes over 100. Hugh looks about right. Basically looks the same in all 3 movies. Besides, this is Hollywood were talking about. Good example is Terminator 3. Arnold is like 59 but he looks 30 something. Hugh's got plenty of time to do a trilogy.
CaptainStacy
11-19-2006, 01:36 PM
One thing's for certain: If it does well, there WILL be another. :wolverine
Snikt 6
11-19-2006, 06:03 PM
Why not? Give Wolverine as much screen time as you can, but PLEASE have it written well. I hope they do more than have him fight Sabertooth though....
WeaponXProject
11-19-2006, 11:37 PM
Actually Wolverine is supposed to be like a 35 year old in his prime, even though hes over 100. Hugh looks about right. Basically looks the same in all 3 movies. Besides, this is Hollywood were talking about. Good example is Terminator 3. Arnold is like 59 but he looks 30 something. Hugh's got plenty of time to do a trilogy.
Atleast we know Hugh doesn't look old at all. The older he gets the better for the character.
Horhey
11-20-2006, 10:26 AM
Atleast we know Hugh doesn't look old at all. The older he gets the better for the character.
Yea, he does look more and more like Wolverine with every movie.
Infinity9999x
11-20-2006, 06:09 PM
Personaly I'd like three. I'd handle this one as a main Weapon X storyline, with brief jumbled flashbacks of scenes from origin to show that he had a seriously messed up past, but keep the audience guessing.
For the second movie, I would have it be after the events of X-3 and go with a Japanese themed story, preferably the Shingin/Mariko storyline, just because I think that storyline is awesome. You could end with with Wolverine being Happy with Mariko, and give him a sense of closure.
Then, for the last movie, go back and do a prequel yet again, but have it be just the Origin storyline, and that would fully complete Logan's story.
Infinity9999x
11-20-2006, 06:10 PM
One thing's for certain: If it does well, there WILL be another. :wolverine
The good Captain speeks the truth, be it good or bad.
Horhey
11-20-2006, 06:15 PM
Personaly I'd like three. I'd handle this one as a main Weapon X storyline, with brief jumbled flashbacks of scenes from origin to show that he had a seriously messed up past, but keep the audience guessing.
For the second movie, I would have it be after the events of X-3 and go with a Japanese themed story, preferably the Shingin/Mariko storyline, just because I think that storyline is awesome. You could end with with Wolverine being Happy with Mariko, and give him a sense of closure.
Then, for the last movie, go back and do a prequel yet again, but have it be just the Origin storyline, and that would fully complete Logan's story.
I would think a Wolverine sequal would involve Omega Red, but it would be about something other than the tired old "Carbonadium Synthesizer" plot.
Savage
11-20-2006, 06:36 PM
Hey, it's not tired in the movies and that's what counts.
Horhey
11-20-2006, 06:47 PM
Hey, it's not tired in the movies and that's what counts.
Yea but that plot doesnt have enough depth for it to be in the movie, or maybe it could with some creativity. Doesnt matter to me, as long as Red is in the movie. Although he may not be in it if Wolverine kills him in Origins #9. Then again, Sabretooth might also be killed in Wolverine #51. http://marvel.com/catalog/?book_id=5967
WeaponXProject
11-22-2006, 11:54 AM
Personaly I'd like three. I'd handle this one as a main Weapon X storyline, with brief jumbled flashbacks of scenes from origin to show that he had a seriously messed up past, but keep the audience guessing.
For the second movie, I would have it be after the events of X-3 and go with a Japanese themed story, preferably the Shingin/Mariko storyline, just because I think that storyline is awesome. You could end with with Wolverine being Happy with Mariko, and give him a sense of closure.
Then, for the last movie, go back and do a prequel yet again, but have it be just the Origin storyline, and that would fully complete Logan's story.
I like that idea.:yay:
Dan33977
12-05-2006, 05:24 AM
Nope.
Decay
12-07-2006, 01:20 PM
No. There should be just one Wolverine movie..Wolverine's tale is not the X-men...he's just one character not a bunch of people.
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