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The Squirrel
10-09-2006, 12:38 PM
Tonight should be another awesome episode.:hyper:
Eddie Brock
10-09-2006, 12:40 PM
i want to learn more about Cylar and see if Hiro tells anyone about what he saw
plus more info on Peter's powers: Does he just absorb other people's powers?
Mixairian
10-09-2006, 02:09 PM
You lucky prick. I was gonna do this in a few minutes. I have work tonight so I have to record the episode to watch it.
Eddie Brock
10-09-2006, 02:49 PM
You lucky prick. I was gonna do this in a few minutes. I have work tonight so I have to record the episode to watch it.
look on the bright side, you get to fast-forward through all the commercials
and you can rewind if you think you see something
just five hours to go for the next episode
I'll be sure to have snacks and stuff ready
The Squirrel
10-09-2006, 04:05 PM
You lucky prick. I was gonna do this in a few minutes. I have work tonight so I have to record the episode to watch it.
Sorry, but this has the chance to be the most successful thread I have ever made.
Plus I didn't get a chance to do it last week cause somebody beat me to it.
Not that it is a race or anything. :woot:
I wonder if Hiro will mention anything to his friend or just keep it all to himself.
Kaboom
10-09-2006, 04:58 PM
hiro will say something....and i'm betting try to go forward again.
Eddie Brock
10-09-2006, 06:12 PM
Sorry, but this has the chance to be the most successful thread I have ever made.
Plus I didn't get a chance to do it last week cause somebody beat me to it.
Not that it is a race or anything. :woot:
I wonder if Hiro will mention anything to his friend or just keep it all to himself.
he will say it, and maybe now his friend will believe him......nah
Farren
10-09-2006, 09:15 PM
That was kinda a lame interrogation, lol.
Substance D
10-09-2006, 09:22 PM
this show went from decent to friggin' great. the scene with hiro saving that girl gave me chills. it feels just like unbreakable, except we get a new story each week.
Farren
10-09-2006, 09:24 PM
I'm glad that Hiro's friend believes him.
I'm starting to get worried about Niki - like, she'll join with the supervillains or something....
The Question
10-09-2006, 09:31 PM
Sylar's telikinetic. I so called it. And it looks like he's good enough to stop bullets.
Substance D
10-09-2006, 09:31 PM
omigod.... sylar is freaky...
Farren
10-09-2006, 09:33 PM
"feed me brains"
sorry - had to be said
Booznian
10-09-2006, 09:33 PM
At first he looked like Nightcrawler at the beginning of X2 in the white house. lol. So Sylar can fly, has telekinetic powers, and cant be hurt? lol
She's already got the perfect symbol. Skull rings for everyone!
And Sylar once again shows he's apperantly got a multitude of powers.
Regeneration? Invincibility? Immortality? Telekenisis? Mind Control? Ice Powers? He's a swiss army knife.
Farren
10-09-2006, 09:36 PM
Maybe the ice powers were just a fire extinguisher...
but yeah, he's starting to piss me off.
Booznian
10-09-2006, 09:39 PM
I wan't Hiro to meet the Crazy Future Painter!
Booznian
10-09-2006, 09:43 PM
OMG what a ******** Quarterback.
AWWW Clairrr. =[[
Substance D
10-09-2006, 09:44 PM
that quarterback needs to die.
yeah syler reminded me of nightcrawler too :)
i'm really starting to like all the characters. this show kicks ass.
Prodigy
10-09-2006, 09:44 PM
ok... this girl should have died several times by now... it's a good thing she can heal anything, cause otherwise she would have gotten killed by that tackle last week, or this week... I mean come on I know this is a fantasy but still
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 09:44 PM
that, ****** was just tring to rap her, and then he almost killed her, dude, if that was any other girl, omg
BTW: anyone else noties the xtra short commercial time
Eklypze
10-09-2006, 09:44 PM
this episode has definately been a treat
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 09:46 PM
So far so good.
The Question
10-09-2006, 09:46 PM
She's already got the perfect symbol. Skull rings for everyone!
And Sylar once again shows he's apperantly got a multitude of powers.
Regeneration? Invincibility? Immortality? Telekenisis? Mind Control? Ice Powers? He's a swiss army knife.
No, he doesn't. Telekinesis can explain all of those. He telikinetically pushes the blond woman against the wall, forced her finger on the trigger, stopped Matt's bullets, and did a "force leap" to get away quickly. The ice thing can be explained by him telikinetically removing the heat from that fellow's body. So, he could just be a very powerful telekinetic.
Farren
10-09-2006, 09:48 PM
ok... this girl should have died several times by now... it's a good thing she can heal anything, cause otherwise she would have gotten killed by that tackle last week, or this week... I mean come on I know this is a fantasy but still
Agreed...maybe her ability to heal has left her less inclined to be careful and aware of what's around her....
Substance D
10-09-2006, 09:52 PM
No, he doesn't. Telekinesis can explain all of those. He telikinetically pushes the blond woman against the wall, forced her finger on the trigger, stopped Matt's bullets, and did a "force leap" to get away quickly. The ice thing can be explained by him telikinetically removing the heat from that fellow's body. So, he could just be a very powerful telekinetic.
nah, he has telekenesis, is invincible and can freeze things. quit being a nerd.
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 09:53 PM
ok Im loving Hiro alot...and the future guy's ex is a hottie. Love those eyes...
Anubis
10-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Holy S**t!
Farren
10-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Holy **** is right!
Farren
10-09-2006, 10:00 PM
hahaha, great plan for revenge
Eklypze
10-09-2006, 10:00 PM
took the words right outta my mouth....MAN THAT WAS AWESOME!
The Question
10-09-2006, 10:00 PM
nah, he has telekenesis, is invincible and can freeze things. quit being a nerd.
Why does he have to have multiple powers when they all could be explained by one?
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:01 PM
Man this ep was freakin sweet!
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 10:01 PM
so, was that black guy at the bar Sylar
Farren
10-09-2006, 10:01 PM
fire extinguisher....:whatever:
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:01 PM
God I hating waiting till next week:cmad:
phoenixflight
10-09-2006, 10:01 PM
A truly brilliant show!!!
phoenixflight
10-09-2006, 10:02 PM
so, was that black guy at the bar Sylar
I think so...he even had the "S" necklace on - really freaky
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:02 PM
As long as NBC has faith in this show I will have my ass glue to the seat to watch.
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:02 PM
so, was that black guy at the bar Sylar
Nah, he's working for that chicks dad. Government or Corporate conspiracy. You just know it.
Farren
10-09-2006, 10:03 PM
you'd think a guy who could read his wife's mind wouldn't be so crappy a husband...
...and Mohinder wins the Biggest Idiot Award - dude, don't go knocking on the door of the man you suspect killed your father, esp if you suspect he has weird evolved abilities.
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:04 PM
you'd think a guy who could read his wife's mind wouldn't be so crappy a husband...
...and Mohinder wins the Biggest Idiot Award - dude, don't go knocking on the door of the man you suspect killed your father, esp if you suspect he has weird evolved abilities.
Well Mo is new to this detective thing...so we can cut him some slack.
Eklypze
10-09-2006, 10:05 PM
so is Mo the only main character that doesnt have any powers?
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 10:06 PM
so is Mo the only main character that doesnt have any powers?
think of him as being like batman in the JL lol
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:06 PM
so is Mo the only main character that doesnt have any powers?
I think he like the Professor X or Adam Kane of the show...maybe the defacto leader when they will form together.
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:07 PM
so is Mo the only main character that doesnt have any powers?
It's entirely possible that Peter doesn't have any powers and that the only reason he flew at all is because his brother is telekinetic.
easily the best episode so far,there's so much going on,but it doesn't get cluttered,this is good sh**
keep in mind Jeph Loeb wrote this episode,kudos!
Farren
10-09-2006, 10:08 PM
It's entirely possible that Peter doesn't have any powers and that the only reason he flew at all is because his brother is telekinetic.
I'm holding out Peter being a dud - maybe.
The Question
10-09-2006, 10:09 PM
Nah, he's working for that chicks dad. Government or Corporate conspiracy. You just know it.
Nope. It's Niki's husband. The one who killed the guys in his gang (except, now it looks like Niki's other self did the deed).
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:10 PM
I take it you didn't see him with whats her names dad screwing around with the mind reading cop in the preview for next week then?
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:17 PM
Anyone see the kid dressed like Supes?
blksuperman2
10-09-2006, 10:17 PM
Awesome Ep. This show is the bomb.
The Guardian
10-09-2006, 10:18 PM
MAN WHAT AN ENDING,:eek: I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WEEK, I LOVE THIS SHOW, THAT WAS AWESOME!!!:D :up:
Upset Spideyfan
10-09-2006, 10:19 PM
Cool episode. The jock was a jerk, definitely looking forward to Claire taking him down a peg or two.
Syler is cool, very cool. I like he came back for the girl. That was badass.
Nathan's "You Get it? You get it?"
"I get it!"
"Good Man!" had me laughing.
And the Heroes are going to start meeting up next week!
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 10:19 PM
Nope. It's Niki's husband. The one who killed the guys in his gang (except, now it looks like Niki's other self did the deed).
I believe, this is niki's husband
http://www.heroes-tv.com/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Leonard_Roberts.jpg
this is the guy who was at the bar
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1577/image2kk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:19 PM
Nope. It's Niki's husband. The one who killed the guys in his gang (except, now it looks like Niki's other self did the deed).
DL Hawkins?
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:20 PM
Man that dudes got a big ass head.
JeanGrey12
10-09-2006, 10:21 PM
OMG I AM STILL GOING CRAZY ABOUT HOW AMAZIN THAT EPISODE WAS! when sylar stood up behind the telepathic guy! i still have goosebumps! CAN NOT WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
and how peter kept punchin nathan. omg that was insane. and how suhresh was going in sylars apartment!(peter and suresh are my favs) sorry. i just loved that episode!
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:21 PM
I believe, this is niki's husband
http://www.heroes-tv.com/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Leonard_Roberts.jpg
not the same guy from the bar
http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/38/60/69m.jpg
DL Hawkins powers Phasing:o
phoenixflight
10-09-2006, 10:22 PM
Nope. It's Niki's husband. The one who killed the guys in his gang (except, now it looks like Niki's other self did the deed).
No, that's not D.L. The actor playing him is Leonard Roberts.
Although he appeared in the hospital room with Matt (as did Claire's dad - I don't think he works with him). When Matt read his mind, something happened (which caused him to collapse). I heard a woman's voice, actually several voices were in the guys head.
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:23 PM
I think he does work for him or at least with him.
War Party
10-09-2006, 10:24 PM
when he staired at the black guy, I thought he didn't hear anything. Like the guy didn't have thoughts or he was able to block the guy from reading them.
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:25 PM
when he staired at the black guy, I thought he didn't hear anything. Like the guy didn't have thoughts or he was able to block the guy from reading them.
Yep very freaky:wow:
JeanGrey12
10-09-2006, 10:28 PM
you know whats funny. when you think about it who has that many near death experiances over a few days lol. claire is lucky she can heal so fast lol.
muscaremy
10-09-2006, 10:28 PM
new tv guide has spoilers on characters if anyone is interested
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 10:31 PM
DL Hawkins powers Phasing:o
and your point being what, all i was saying, was he wasn't the dude that was at the bar, and DL is niki's babys dady lol
and ya,I know he has phasing powers, or at least that what iv heard
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:32 PM
and your point being what, all i was saying, was he wasn't the dude that was at the bar, and DL is niki's babys dady lol
and ya,I know he has phasing powers, or at least that what iv heard
Just throwing it out there...that's all:woot:
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:32 PM
That explains how he walked out of prison.
i hope Jeph Loeb writes a couple more episodes
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:34 PM
That explains how he walked out of prison.
Brother I would give my left nut for that power.
muscaremy
10-09-2006, 10:34 PM
micah has powers as well
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 10:36 PM
That explains how he walked out of prison.
I hope they end up showing that scene (of him discoveing his power and walking out throw the wall) on the show, even if it already happened i'd like a flash back scene of it or something
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:36 PM
micah has powers as well
Come again?
muscaremy
10-09-2006, 10:36 PM
read both my posts and u'll see wat i mean
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:37 PM
micah has powers as well
He should, seeing as both his parents have em. Super Genius maybe? Techno Path? Kid's putting together computers in his spare time for Christ sakes.
muscaremy
10-09-2006, 10:42 PM
kids pops comes in in ep 5 if i remember correctly and the kids power is not like either of his parents....and one characters power is not what it seems....tho someone sed it on these boards so technically some know
deathshead2
10-09-2006, 10:43 PM
Another episode that was better than the first. I think I might get this on dvd when it comes out. Well Hiros part of the episode was yet again great. And now the cop is becomeing a fave of mine as well. But the other characters I still hate and hope will die by seasons end. The chearleader better become a bad guy. And our asian friend and the cop should team-up.
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:44 PM
It's always about people dying with you isn't it?
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 10:49 PM
It's always about people dying with you isn't it?
That funny coming from the God of Death:o
Anubis
10-09-2006, 10:49 PM
I know. The Irony of it all.
deathshead2
10-09-2006, 10:51 PM
It's always about people dying with you isn't it?For some reason when I watch this show I want the characters i don't like to die. This is the only show thats done this to me. Any other show I don't care. Maybe its because Hiro is such a cool character that I want him to have more screen time so kill love useless character or two and make room for more hiro. Which is sort of hard sense all the characters are important to the show. Dang I hate catch 22s.
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 11:01 PM
^once the character's start to get together, (and maybe team up) the screen time will get less divided up, Hiro is right now heading to new york to find the painter, (where the Mo, peter (and his brother) are) so, the store’s well start to combined, you know what I mean
btw: Just thought of something, didn't hiro, at the end of the last episode,say that his friend spoke english, what happen lol
deathshead2
10-09-2006, 11:04 PM
The writers seem to forget things sometimes his friend knowing english is one of them. Sense he could have talked to the guy insted of hiro having to go all the way to america to tell the guy. But he is following the comic so it must have been him who was supposed to call.
The Question
10-09-2006, 11:08 PM
I believe, this is niki's husband
http://www.heroes-tv.com/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Leonard_Roberts.jpg
this is the guy who was at the bar
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1577/image2kk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ah, my mistake.
Mixairian
10-09-2006, 11:11 PM
Watching the episode now.
The Incredible Hulk
10-09-2006, 11:12 PM
good epsiode. the ending with the cheerleader chick spread out for the autopsy ruled, even if it didnt make any sense why her body waited until the stick was removed to heal itself...
Eklypze
10-09-2006, 11:15 PM
the stick was lodged in her brain so....**** i dunno how to word it out and it makes sense in my head damnit
The Question
10-09-2006, 11:15 PM
good epsiode. the ending with the cheerleader chick spread out for the autopsy ruled, even if it didnt make any sense why her body waited until the stick was removed to heal itself...
Because if she had healed with the stick in her brain, it would have severely ****ed her up. She went into a catatonic, death like state while her body repaired itself.
Eklypze
10-09-2006, 11:16 PM
Because if she had healed with the stick in her brain, it would have severely ****ed her up. She went into a catatonic, death like state while her body repaired itself.
there ya go thats about the gist of what i was thinking
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 11:20 PM
good epsiode. the ending with the cheerleader chick spread out for the autopsy ruled, even if it didnt make any sense why her body waited until the stick was removed to heal itself...
well, she couldn't just heal around the stick (which looked like it might of been stabbing her in the brain) so, she remind temporally dead or something, unit it was removed, kinda like in the first episode when her rip was sticking out, so, she didn't heal
though, whoever removed it, seemed to of disappeared pretty fast, before she started healing, as they was not one in room when she woke up
Edit: Ya, what he(The Question) said
(beat me to it, and said it much better lol)
The Incredible Hulk
10-09-2006, 11:22 PM
Because if she had healed with the stick in her brain, it would have severely ****ed her up. She went into a catatonic, death like state while her body repaired itself.
why wouldnt her body just have pushed it out when it healed like when Wolverine got shot in the head in X2?
I mean she got messed up worse last week when her head snapped around than she was when she was impaled on the stick, and she healed almost instantly then.
zerohour films
10-09-2006, 11:24 PM
What I don't understand is why they were doing an autopsy on her...I mean isn't that usually done to determine the cause of death...I would think the stick in her head would be could indication of that!
I am really enjoying the show but some of the dialog and story layout needs improvement.
Like why was the painter's ex at the party for Peter's brother? Peter turned around and she was just there....Then she just appeared again when Peter was walking in the rain...I'm guessing when he stormed off she followed and was with him when he walked over to clock his brother a couple of times..
I don't know the show has a lot of story to tell, I just feel they are rushing a few things here and there to get to a bigger story and I feel some of the characterizations are being hurt by that...anyone else feel the same way?
War Party
10-09-2006, 11:25 PM
why wouldnt her body just have pushed it out when it healed like when Wolverine got shot in the head in X2?
I mean she got messed up worse last week when her head snapped around than she was when she was impaled on the stick, and she healed almost instantly then.
Because she ain't Wolverine and this ain't X-Men.
Spider-Fan83
10-09-2006, 11:28 PM
Because she ain't Wolverine and this ain't X-Men.
maybe Wolverine, and lady deathstrike, are her birth parents lol
Substance D
10-09-2006, 11:28 PM
What I don't understand is why they were doing an autopsy on her...I mean isn't that usually done to determine the cause of death...I would think the stick in her head would be could indication of that!
maybe her father's people recovered her and she's at their labs.
zerohour films
10-09-2006, 11:31 PM
Yeah I was just thinking about that Substance D....could be
Or maybe they though it would make for a more shocking ending having her cut open
I guess will find out next week
maxwell's demon
10-09-2006, 11:32 PM
anyone else think Hinder's neighbor (the girl who knew his dad) is actually a mole/plant who's going to be revealed later in the season?
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 11:32 PM
maybe her father's people recovered her and she's at their labs.
Hmmmm....
War Party
10-09-2006, 11:34 PM
anyone else think Hinder's neighbor (the girl who knew his dad) is actually a mole/plant who's going to be revealed later in the season?
I was thinking that at one point.
SoulManX
10-09-2006, 11:34 PM
anyone else think Hinder's neighbor (the girl who knew his dad) is actually a mole/plant who's going to be revealed later in the season?
God I hope not...I like Mo have a cute sidekick...
Substance D
10-09-2006, 11:34 PM
anyone else think Hinder's neighbor (the girl who knew his dad) is actually a mole/plant who's going to be revealed later in the season?
i don't care as long as she has a semi-nude scene.
Substance D
10-09-2006, 11:36 PM
well i guess that lesbian fbi chick ain't all that bad after all. i really like the cop character. he has an everyman quality to him. looks like he gets screwed in the coming episodes. looks like they all get screwed actually.
i also like how some of the characters are realizing their true purpose, and that they want to help people. seems like they're truely becoming heroes and not just whiney, depressed people cursed with powers.
Mixairian
10-09-2006, 11:50 PM
So yeah. Sylar, TK. Owned.
Hiro still rocks.
Claire, sucks to be her.
Matt, sucks to be him.
Peter has brotherly issues.
Niki, sucks to be her.
Her kid, I wish he'd do something already.
Isaac, sucks to be him.
Tonight was pretty boss. What's sucking is that these episodes only come out to be around 40 minutes long. They seriously need to show them in 2 hour blocks or something.
Skimming the top few posts. Regeneration just means your body repairs itself. There are certain things the human body can push out of it's system to heal itself. Splinters for examples. Something the size of a large tree branch being lodged into ones cerebral cortex does not fit into this category. Some comics have the person's body with regeneration push it out. On the level of the actual ability, if you tried to imagine it as feesably as possible, would make that act unrealistic. I know, poor word choice in a series about Heroes. But them's the breaks. Most comic characters that do it like that, get it like that cause they're popular and not having it would make them more fallable.
Salemdog
10-10-2006, 12:20 AM
Someone may have mentioned this but I'm kinda in doubt about Sylar. Everyone keeps thinking it's telekinesis and the like but I'm not convinced. And did anyone else notice they FBI agent said Sylar never seemed to touch his victims but used household items? And all the items are made of metal. And the two dead guys in the hall were taken out with metal chairs. It seemed at the end they wanted you to think the guy in the bar was Sylar but I think him and the guy with the glasses are on a different page.
I don't want to say Sylar is another Magneto and I may be way off but then again there are only so many powers to come up with before you start a repeat.
But it is a damn good show either way.
Makes you wonder just how easy it would have been to do an X-Men TV live action series like this?
Mixairian
10-10-2006, 12:43 AM
Someone may have mentioned this but I'm kinda in doubt about Sylar. Everyone keeps thinking it's telekinesis and the like but I'm not convinced. And did anyone else notice they FBI agent said Sylar never seemed to touch his victims but used household items? And all the items are made of metal. And the two dead guys in the hall were taken out with metal chairs. It seemed at the end they wanted you to think the guy in the bar was Sylar but I think him and the guy with the glasses are on a different page.
I don't want to say Sylar is another Magneto and I may be way off but then again there are only so many powers to come up with before you start a repeat.
But it is a damn good show either way.
Makes you wonder just how easy it would have been to do an X-Men TV live action series like this?
Magnetism is another very feesable possibility but right now telekinesis can be stretched out to explain the frozen victem. Magnetism is quite harder to do that. For some reason magnetism wasn't even on my mind. Didn't even notice all those metal objects...
Though to counter. If it was magnetism, the female FBI agent would have been shot because all he would have had to do was apply pressure to the trigger and not her finger to shoot her.
Now, Claire's injuries/regenerations have been easy enough to cover up. But how are they gonna explain her being brought into a morgue, and having an AUTOPSY PERFORMED ON HER?!?!? That equation's already got about five or six people who have picked up this dead girl. What happens when she escapes. Aren't photographs taken of victims before an autopsy? Yeah, it makes for a great shock ending, but the plot holes are big enough to drive a mac truck through!
I still love the show, though.
Mixairian
10-10-2006, 12:57 AM
Now, Claire's injuries/regenerations have been easy enough to cover up. But how are they gonna explain her being brought into a morgue, and having an AUTOPSY PERFORMED ON HER?!?!? That equation's already got about five or six people who have picked up this dead girl. What happens when she escapes. Aren't photographs taken of victims before an autopsy? Yeah, it makes for a great shock ending, but the plot holes are big enough to drive a mac truck through!
I still love the show, though.
Depends who found her. If her father's people did, they may have covered it up. From what the preview alludes to in the next episode:
She comes back to get revenge on the guy. In one of the other previews for future episodes, Peter states that they have to "save the Cheerleader."
P.B.&Chocolate
10-10-2006, 01:11 AM
I really enjoy this show . I wonder if we will have the Claire gross out scene of the week every show? The Sylar scenes make him alook like a good villian. Hiro changing events could backfire hopefully it works out . Things keep getting better and better .
Salemdog
10-10-2006, 01:14 AM
Magnetism is another very feesable possibility but right now telekinesis can be stretched out to explain the frozen victem. Magnetism is quite harder to do that. For some reason magnetism wasn't even on my mind. Didn't even notice all those metal objects...
Though to counter. If it was magnetism, the female FBI agent would have been shot because all he would have had to do was apply pressure to the trigger and not her finger to shoot her.
Good point. I wasn't sure if it were the gun or her hand he was controlling. As far as the freezing Im wondering if it isn't something else entirely. Who's to say it isn't someone working in tandem with Sylar. So far that's the only frozen body mentioned. Every other one has just been the head or I believe just been impaled with the objects. But like Lost this show has been good about keeping you guessing a bit. I'm still not convinced the guy in the bar was Sylar though he had the symbol around his neck. It would be interesting if this plays out where the guy with the glasses has one group working with him and the Indian fellow collects the other group with Sylar playing the middle.
sc12een17am3
10-10-2006, 01:18 AM
but wasnt the FBI lady slamed against the fence or wall behind her? if thats the case i wouldnt think what Sylar used would be magnetism. i hope it is telekinisis though, i like that power more. and like what salemdog said, i wouldnt want to see another bad guy with magnetism
Wolfwood
10-10-2006, 01:24 AM
Sylar's telikinetic. I so called it. And it looks like he's good enough to stop bullets.
Yah, I'm switching to your side now, it does make the most sense. Though if it does turn out my brain eating theory is correct, I reserve the right to rub it in.
Heh, I gotta admit I jumped a little when Sylar forced that gun to the FBI agent's head. Gave me a few chills.
So it looks like they're laying the groundwork for the cheerleader to become a villain, what with the revenge and what not. It's kind of a slippery slope from there.
BTW, anyone else see that rape coming? Not that I hated it, just happens way too often in media. Seemingly nice and popular guy, really cute, does something to hit it off with the girl. Start to make out, guy goes too far and so on... I know it happens all the time in real life, but it's just so predictable in entertainment. Ah well, whatever. Atleast it had the pay off of her being stabbed in the head. :up:
Mister J
10-10-2006, 01:28 AM
This show is kicking ass. It keeps you guessing while still giving you enough to move things forward. It looks to really pick up as the main characters start to encounter each other. Sylar looks to be a pretty wicked villain. The scene with him and the cops just had me all :eek:. The Claire ending caught me off guard and it looks like she's raising hell next week.
Apparantly, I'm the only one that finds Hiro incredibly annoying. :dry:
Salemdog
10-10-2006, 02:09 AM
A question if someone could clear this up. I know that Sylar has killed several people. But why leave the girl? Could Sylar be targeting the parents of the special kids. Could Claire's parents actually be dead and Sylar offed them. There is an obvious connection with Sylar and the man in glasses. If so he could have taken Claire in after Sylar killed her parents and this has been going on longer than we think with Sylar being the first one to come out?
I wasn't sure if the FBI agent (who was great in Carnivale btw) was specific on who Sylar was targeting. If someone has a bit more info that would be great.
And what if it wasn't Sylar going after the girl but the guy in the bar and him and Mr. Glasses were just trying to get the girl for themselves after what Sylar did?
Again..I might be reading too much into it.
Wolfwood
10-10-2006, 03:53 AM
It would be an interesting touch if Sylar was after the kids. Maybe too expose them to their power, try to show them their full potential? If so, he could be after Nikki's kid next.
aphro666
10-10-2006, 04:44 AM
That wasn't Sylar in the bar or in the police station.
We have not seen Sylar yet.
Depends who found her. If her father's people did, they may have covered it up. From what the preview alludes to in the next episode:
She comes back to get revenge on the guy. In one of the other previews for future episodes, Peter states that they have to "save the Cheerleader."
Good point, especially since we don't see exactly who was pulling the stump out of her neck.
War Party
10-10-2006, 08:01 AM
That wasn't Sylar in the bar or in the police station.
We have not seen Sylar yet.
I thought that was Sylar in the police station. Even the FBI agent said it was Sylar when the girl was being kidnapped.
Spider-Fan83
10-10-2006, 08:01 AM
That wasn't Sylar in the bar or in the police station.
We have not seen Sylar yet.
then, why did that FBI chick, go yelling out, "it sylar"
EDIT: I am starting to think that the guy fromthe bar wasn't sylar, but, i do believe that was sylar at the police station
Atomicchuck3k
10-10-2006, 08:20 AM
i want to learn more about Cylar and see if Hiro tells anyone about what he saw
plus more info on Peter's powers: Does he just absorb other people's powers?
If you watched the coming attractions for next episode you can see peter on a train at the end of the trailer and nothing around him is moving as if time is frozen. I think he may have absorbed evryones favorite Japanese master of time power.
The Question
10-10-2006, 08:22 AM
why wouldnt her body just have pushed it out when it healed like when Wolverine got shot in the head in X2?
Because even a high level of cellular regeneration can't do that and the bullet popping out thing in X2 was kind of stupid.
I mean she got messed up worse last week when her head snapped around than she was when she was impaled on the stick, and she healed almost instantly then.
Yeah. But there wasn't a two foot long stick lodged in her neck. She wouldn't be able to heal around that.
Dr Lee
10-10-2006, 08:32 AM
Where can you go to see the previews if you aren't watching it on NBC?
chosen1
10-10-2006, 09:51 AM
So how many heroes are there?
Mr. Credible
10-10-2006, 10:12 AM
so, is Sylar that black guy from the bar? the one who the cop couldn't read his thoughts? like, it was just a blank?
blksuperman2
10-10-2006, 10:21 AM
That was brillant advertising for that car. I mean what difference would it make what kind of car they chose.:whatever:
kane9321
10-10-2006, 10:31 AM
sylar can fly,and he has telekenesis..holy crap
poor poor claire..ouch.Who took that stick or tree branch outta her neck..thats what i wanna know?..rock on claire next week...payback
TheStig
10-10-2006, 10:38 AM
^once the character's start to get together, (and maybe team up) the screen time will get less divided up, Hiro is right now heading to new york to find the painter, (where the Mo, peter (and his brother) are) so, the store’s well start to combined, you know what I mean
btw: Just thought of something, didn't hiro, at the end of the last episode,say that his friend spoke english, what happen lol
Actually they are heading to NY by way of Las Vegas, and Hiro's friend is a total fan of Claire, so I could definately see Hiro and friend meeting up with Claire sometime soon.
The Apocalypse
10-10-2006, 11:17 AM
I'm going to feel bad for Hiro's friend when Claire ends up killing him :D
Anyway this show is awesome. I'm still trying to figure out what all these people have to do with a Nuclear Bomb. Who's trying to set it off? Claire's Dad? Sylar? Why set off a bomb when you have those powers?
Archangel
10-10-2006, 11:25 AM
Hiro's friend is a fan of Nikki, not Claire.
Because even a high level of cellular regeneration can't do that and the bullet popping out thing in X2 was kind of stupid
Why? Wolverine's also got the adamantium skeleton, so the bullet never penetrated the skull. I could understand if the bullet were lodged in the skull, but it never got that far.
I'm going to feel bad for Hiro's friend when Claire ends up killing him :D
Anyway this show is awesome. I'm still trying to figure out what all these people have to do with a Nuclear Bomb. Who's trying to set it off? Claire's Dad? Sylar? Why set off a bomb when you have those powers?
it might not be a bomb
if one thing I've learned, is that as much as we can speculate about these characters and the story, the creators are and will be throwing curve balls at us
which is absolutly great
although the hole car plug was kinda bleh, but well, you can't have the good without the bad, right?
NoirMan82
10-10-2006, 11:47 AM
It's entirely possible that Peter doesn't have any powers and that the only reason he flew at all is because his brother is telekinetic.
I think he's more along the lines of Synch from Generation X. He can mimic the powers of others as long as he is close enough to them. That could make him really the most powerful guy around as the supposed group starts to form.
one interesting thing about the ending, it reminded me of a scene in Neil Gaiman's American Gods
if you've read the book, you know which scene I'm talking about
X-Ray
10-10-2006, 12:06 PM
Great episode. There were 2 or 3 scenes that kind of creeped me out.
- Sylar getting up after supposely being shot up by the cop.
- Sylar's apartment. The dude basically has the same exact thing going on with the map. Except he has more ppl pointed out on it. And it's more like a hit list. The room with "sinner", "Forgive me", etc. ... was stranged as ****.
- The bar scene. The cop looks around reading ppl's thoughts and comes across the black guy. That silent moment scared me for a bit.
Again, great **** :word::up:
lars573
10-10-2006, 12:13 PM
No, he doesn't. Telekinesis can explain all of those. He telikinetically pushes the blond woman against the wall, forced her finger on the trigger, stopped Matt's bullets, and did a "force leap" to get away quickly. The ice thing can be explained by him telikinetically removing the heat from that fellow's body. So, he could just be a very powerful telekinetic.
He porbably did us TK to freeze people. But not by sucking out the energy. That is such a hack-kneed comic book idea. All he'd have to do is slow down the molecular motion of his victims body till it froze.
Because if she had healed with the stick in her brain, it would have severely ****ed her up. She went into a catatonic, death like state while her body repaired itself.
No she was dead, as in a corpse, expired, deceased. However they have shown that her cells have a massive (to the point of being reidulous) ability to regenerate. You see medical science has no idea when we are truely dead. As in all life functions have stopped. It takes over 12 hours to reach room tempeature. And no one knows how long it takes all the cells in a persons body to die after they do. The reason she "died" was because her brain couldn't heal itself back to normal with a stick in her brain stem (which controls autonomic functions). So she died, but her cells were all still functional.
AnimeJune
10-10-2006, 12:35 PM
Yup - waking up mid-autopsy was definitely the "HO S**T!" moment of my evening. I'm stoked to see how Claire manages to talk her way out of that little mishap.
And the poor police officer! I mean, it's obvious from the promos that he's the one who ends up majorly probed by the evil government scientists, but still...he seems the sweetest one of the bunch.
each character has something we can identify with
Matt's marriage reminded me a lot of my first marriage... I couldn't help but to feel bad for the poor guy... if I had been a telepath would I have saved my marriage? well, I really don't know and don't care, I'm much better off now
Tanin
10-10-2006, 01:21 PM
I like that Hiro came back two days late when he showed up to work. Better control but not perfect.
Dr Lee
10-10-2006, 01:23 PM
there is only one thing i wanna know next week.....
How the hell is claire going to get out of this one?
I SEE SPIDEY
10-10-2006, 01:23 PM
anyone else think Hinder's neighbor (the girl who knew his dad) is actually a mole/plant who's going to be revealed later in the season?Yes. I'm totally loving this show by the way. Great episode.:woot:
Spider-Fan83
10-10-2006, 01:41 PM
Actually they are heading to NY by way of Las Vegas, and Hiro's friend is a total fan of Claire, so I could definately see Hiro and friend meeting up with Claire sometime soon.
Hiro's friend is a fan of Nikki, not Claire.
I'd hope, he's not a fan of Claire’s, or downloading any pic of her off the net, she’s alil young for him (in a underage kinda way lol)
though, I’m not really up to date on the age laws of Japan
but, he seemed to like that Niki chick, and if he does see her around on his way to Vegas, he'd recognizes her, especially with a clip of her on his organizer lol
I am sure that will go over will, him going up to her, showing that he has a clip of her lol
there is only one thing i wanna know next week.....
How the hell is claire going to get out of this one?
I guess she has to put herself together first
AnimeJune
10-10-2006, 02:01 PM
Yes. I'm totally loving this show by the way. Great episode.:woot:Me too - there's going to come a time when she bonks poor Mohinder on the head and babbles something about being in love with Sylar or something.
Or else they're going to reveal she was bangin' his dad, which would be hilarious.
And Sylar might not be alone - someone might be helping him, because he didn't start out by turning skulls into cereal bowls and eating brains - that happened later.
Spider-Fan83
10-10-2006, 02:10 PM
Me too - there's going to come a time when she bonks poor Mohinder on the head and babbles something about being in love with Sylar or something.
Or else they're going to reveal she was bangin' his dad, which would be hilarious.
what's, so funny about her banging him, your telling me you wouldn't want to be banging this guy
http://www.dragoncon.org/images/guest-photos/1495.jpg LOL
Superhero Hype!
10-10-2006, 02:30 PM
sylar can fly,and he has telekenesis..holy crap
poor poor claire..ouch.Who took that stick or tree branch outta her neck..thats what i wanna know?..rock on claire next week...payback
Maybe Sylar = Nathan Petrelli?? Hmm...
chosen1
10-10-2006, 02:42 PM
Somone needs to fire whoever is doing the previously on voice and cinematics. (hopefully that'll improve now that a full season has been ordered.)
So the blonde mother does'nt actually have super powers its just an alternate personality that is a killer. I bet whatever her husband was convicted for ..... She did it and did'nt remember so he took the rap for her.
I have a gift for seeing things way before they happen.
"Its a jedi trait." -- Qui gon jin
CONNOR73
10-10-2006, 02:43 PM
Anyone else notice that Hiro caused the very accident he was trying to prevent? I think that is a foreshadowing. Somehow the Heroes themselves lead to the disaster.
Also I think the reason Sylar mutilates some victims and not others is because his map is not one hundred percent accurate. He tracks these people down and if they have what he needs he opens up their skulls. But if they are duds he just whacks them and goes on his way.
The Incredible Hulk
10-10-2006, 02:43 PM
Maybe Sylar = Nathan Petrelli?? Hmm...
:eek:
Gold Samurai
10-10-2006, 03:03 PM
That was brillant advertising for that car. I mean what difference would it make what kind of car they chose.:whatever:
ha Ando(sp?) even brought up that same thought
"Its our destiny.............to drive away in this new 4 door Nissan Virsa with loads of trunk space for that occasional body bad Niki might bring back "
:D
Motown Marvel
10-10-2006, 03:05 PM
even if it didnt make any sense why her body waited until the stick was removed to heal itself...
i was thinking that she has a weakness towards wood....like Green Lantern Alan Scott.
ultimatefan
10-10-2006, 03:08 PM
The main page confirms: the show has established itself as a ratings hit. The Studio 60 fans will be happy to know it improved this week.
aphro666
10-10-2006, 03:26 PM
I thought that was Sylar in the police station. Even the FBI agent said it was Sylar when the girl was being kidnapped.
the guy in the police station and the guy in the bar were one and the same. he is working for the guy in the horned rimmed glasses, who is trying to find Sylar as well.
It was said that the victims showed no signs of physical contact, yet the guy was dragging the little girl out of the police station. The FBI has no idea what Sylar looks like, she was just conlcuding t was Sylar who was taking the little girl, probably becuase the little girl saw him and the FBI figured he was trying to cover his tracks.
More likely, he was taking her because she saw him and the HRG guy also has no idea what he looks like, and they probably have netter ways of pursuading someone.
We probably will not see who Sylar is until episode 6 or 7. the way this show is going, there is no way that Sylar was actually shown in that episode, that guy in the bar appears to be a telekinetic as well, but he is definately working for HRG guy, as shown in the previews for next week. And HRG guy is definately looking for Sylar as well.
Also, listen to Sylar's voice again in episode 2. Does is sound familiar? It did to me, as in one of the main characters noone would expect.
psionikk
10-10-2006, 03:30 PM
I too think that Peter can copy powers like Synch. I was really upset when Everett(Synch) was killed off. He had the potential to become the most powerful mutant ever. Not only could he "synch" with another mutant's power he also had the ability to increase it ten fold or more.
Sorry to go off topic. LOL
chosen1
10-10-2006, 03:31 PM
I dont trust the girl the indian guy is w/
For some reason whenever I see them together it reminds me of the Jack Bauer/ Nina Myers relationship.
And we all know what she did to him.....
Eddie Brock
10-10-2006, 03:38 PM
Nathan is quite the pervert, putting Niki to use next week....that's Ando's job
I had a minor bout with prescience when the camera pulled back to show the girl's autopsied body. I said "Holy $#!+" and a moment later I think she did too. A very disturbing image.
I am enjoying this show very much.
Wolfwood
10-10-2006, 04:07 PM
That was brillant advertising for that car. I mean what difference would it make what kind of car they chose.:whatever:
Actually I thought that was pretty funny, it was so painfully obvious product placement. :D
paulyfknt90
10-10-2006, 04:11 PM
I dont trust the girl the indian guy is w/
For some reason whenever I see them together it reminds me of the Jack Bauer/ Nina Myers relationship.
And we all know what she did to him.....
yea i thought there was something about her, she seems to know wayy to much about the reaserch.
Kaboom
10-10-2006, 04:12 PM
has anyone else wondered if the ribs pop out, and the stick goes in, why wasnt she burned?
paulyfknt90
10-10-2006, 04:15 PM
has anyone else wondered if the ribs pop out, and the stick goes in, why wasnt she burned?
it seems she cant heal when theres stuff sticking out of her
she needs to be completly free of any objects pertruding from the skin, remeber in the first episode when the ribs stuck out of her sides, well as soon as she pushed them back in she was fine
Kaboom
10-10-2006, 04:18 PM
does that means shes gonna have to go get her boobs off the autopsy table before she can be back together? gross.
PowersOfMind
10-10-2006, 04:46 PM
I love Claire. I love her reation to coming back to life at the end of the episode.
At first I wasnt too sure about this show but since the first episode it has been really cool. This show is slowly replacing the space reserved for LOST in my heart. Also I hope that Hiro learns to teleport without making that face.
Dr Lee
10-10-2006, 04:51 PM
I can only vouch for myself and Rong but i suspect that many of us who were watching that said Holy ***** as well..... or something like that
LOL
The Squirrel
10-10-2006, 04:52 PM
At first he looked like Nightcrawler at the beginning of X2 in the white house. lol. So Sylar can fly, has telekinetic powers, and cant be hurt? lol
My theory on Sylar is that it looks like he is tracking down people with powers. So I think when he eats their brains he somehow absorbs their powers thus having multiple ones.
Great episode.
I want to see how the doctor reacts when his dead patient suddenly sits up on the table. (Claire.)
When the cop guy couldn't read that one's guys thoughts, that scene was freaky.
Can't wait for next week.
Oh and Nathan is a prick for lying about his brother. I was glad when Peter whacked him a few times.
The Question
10-10-2006, 04:59 PM
Why? Wolverine's also got the adamantium skeleton, so the bullet never penetrated the skull. I could understand if the bullet were lodged in the skull, but it never got that far.
The wounds would just heal over the bullet.
He porbably did us TK to freeze people. But not by sucking out the energy. That is such a hack-kneed comic book idea. All he'd have to do is slow down the molecular motion of his victims body till it froze.
What's wrong with him removing the heat? Besides, even if he was stopping the molecular motion, he'd still have to remove the heat from their body and displace it around the room. So, really, it's the same thing being explained two different ways.
No she was dead, as in a corpse, expired, deceased. However they have shown that her cells have a massive (to the point of being reidulous) ability to regenerate. You see medical science has no idea when we are truely dead. As in all life functions have stopped. It takes over 12 hours to reach room tempeature. And no one knows how long it takes all the cells in a persons body to die after they do. The reason she "died" was because her brain couldn't heal itself back to normal with a stick in her brain stem (which controls autonomic functions). So she died, but her cells were all still functional.
I suppose. Or, at the very least, she would have apeared dead to all outside observers.
Mixairian
10-10-2006, 05:02 PM
Good point. I wasn't sure if it were the gun or her hand he was controlling. As far as the freezing Im wondering if it isn't something else entirely. Who's to say it isn't someone working in tandem with Sylar. So far that's the only frozen body mentioned. Every other one has just been the head or I believe just been impaled with the objects. But like Lost this show has been good about keeping you guessing a bit. I'm still not convinced the guy in the bar was Sylar though he had the symbol around his neck. It would be interesting if this plays out where the guy with the glasses has one group working with him and the Indian fellow collects the other group with Sylar playing the middle.
In another thread we discussed how telekinesis can be theorhetically used to "remove heat" from a body or to be more precise to cease the molecular motion causing something to freeze. Granted this seems a tad extreme.
Yah, I'm switching to your side now, it does make the most sense. Though if it does turn out my brain eating theory is correct, I reserve the right to rub it in.
Heh, I gotta admit I jumped a little when Sylar forced that gun to the FBI agent's head. Gave me a few chills.
So it looks like they're laying the groundwork for the cheerleader to become a villain, what with the revenge and what not. It's kind of a slippery slope from there.
BTW, anyone else see that rape coming? Not that I hated it, just happens way too often in media. Seemingly nice and popular guy, really cute, does something to hit it off with the girl. Start to make out, guy goes too far and so on... I know it happens all the time in real life, but it's just so predictable in entertainment. Ah well, whatever. Atleast it had the pay off of her being stabbed in the head. :up:
TK FTW.
As for Claire. She'll be a good guy but she's only a person and people have negative traits. The desire to get revenge for being raped, attempted rape and technically murder would be very strong in anyone. If you follow the concept of equivalent exchange, life for life makes sense.
A question if someone could clear this up. I know that Sylar has killed several people. But why leave the girl? Could Sylar be targeting the parents of the special kids. Could Claire's parents actually be dead and Sylar offed them. There is an obvious connection with Sylar and the man in glasses. If so he could have taken Claire in after Sylar killed her parents and this has been going on longer than we think with Sylar being the first one to come out?
I wasn't sure if the FBI agent (who was great in Carnivale btw) was specific on who Sylar was targeting. If someone has a bit more info that would be great.
And what if it wasn't Sylar going after the girl but the guy in the bar and him and Mr. Glasses were just trying to get the girl for themselves after what Sylar did?
Again..I might be reading too much into it.
Sylar, Mr Government Glasses and Black Guy who's mind can't be read I believe are all seperate people. Black guy and governement might have some connection but I'm still iffy on it. As for Sylar, I feel quite confident that he has no connections with the government or anyone else right now.
If you watched the coming attractions for next episode you can see peter on a train at the end of the trailer and nothing around him is moving as if time is frozen. I think he may have absorbed evryones favorite Japanese master of time power.
He may have also dreamed what occured next. Also gotta factor in, when they show something in the coming attractions, that doesn't mean it will be in the next episode. Hiro and Company are heading to Las Vegas. I think they're gonna meet up with the stripper and the kid... I'm also guessing Hiro's best friend is gonna bite the bullet soon and it's gonna really effect Hiro.
so, is Sylar that black guy from the bar? the one who the cop couldn't read his thoughts? like, it was just a blank?
I don't believe so. So right now my answer is no.
sylar can fly,and he has telekenesis..holy crap
poor poor claire..ouch.Who took that stick or tree branch outta her neck..thats what i wanna know?..rock on claire next week...payback
Lifting yourself up with telekinesis isn't flight. :)
Actually they are heading to NY by way of Las Vegas, and Hiro's friend is a total fan of Claire, so I could definately see Hiro and friend meeting up with Claire sometime soon.
Hiro's friend is into Niki the stripper. Claire is the cheerleader in Odessa Texas.
He porbably did us TK to freeze people. But not by sucking out the energy. That is such a hack-kneed comic book idea. All he'd have to do is slow down the molecular motion of his victims body till it froze.
Some science for you. Heat is molecules in motion. When something is very hot, the molecules are moving very fast, are very spread out and hitting each other a lot. "Removing heat" from one object to another is basically transferring those fast moving molecules to an object that has slower moving molecules packed together. Thus when the motion is transfered, the original object begins to slow down... Thus Sylar could in theory not just "remove heat" but flat out stop it.
Which put her in a temporary cataonic state. See how this is circular?
[QUOTE=PLAS]each character has something we can identify with
Matt's marriage reminded me a lot of my first marriage... I couldn't help but to feel bad for the poor guy... if I had been a telepath would I have saved my marriage? well, I really don't know and don't care, I'm much better off now
Being able to read minds would probaly cause more damage than good in my relationships.
Maybe Sylar = Nathan Petrelli?? Hmm...
Was it Blight who first coined this next line?:
No you! :-p
the guy in the police station and the guy in the bar were one and the same. he is working for the guy in the horned rimmed glasses, who is trying to find Sylar as well.
It was said that the victims showed no signs of physical contact, yet the guy was dragging the little girl out of the police station. The FBI has no idea what Sylar looks like, she was just conlcuding t was Sylar who was taking the little girl, probably becuase the little girl saw him and the FBI figured he was trying to cover his tracks.
More likely, he was taking her because she saw him and the HRG guy also has no idea what he looks like, and they probably have netter ways of pursuading someone.
We probably will not see who Sylar is until episode 6 or 7. the way this show is going, there is no way that Sylar was actually shown in that episode, that guy in the bar appears to be a telekinetic as well, but he is definately working for HRG guy, as shown in the previews for next week. And HRG guy is definately looking for Sylar as well.
Also, listen to Sylar's voice again in episode 2. Does is sound familiar? It did to me, as in one of the main characters noone would expect.
I'm going to disagree. The man at the Police Station was Sylar but the man at the bar, is very likely Niki's husband (if the man isn't dead).
I dont trust the girl the indian guy is w/
For some reason whenever I see them together it reminds me of the Jack Bauer/ Nina Myers relationship.
And we all know what she did to him.....
She is way to kind and her finding everything is way to convienant.
NoTheNSpiderMan
10-10-2006, 05:05 PM
yeah, the chick with mohinder, i think she is working for the bad guy. why else is she so fond of him, working close with him all of a sudden. and who else would know about sylar's room to empty it out so quickly when mohinder told the authorities. remember that one shot of her reaction when mohinder goes into the now empty room of sylars? forshadowing.
can't wait for hiro and friend to meet up with nikki. XD
can't wait for nikki and friend to meet up with nathan. XD
can't wait for drugged up artist to sock ex-nurse boy. XD
can't wait for cheerleader to run over jock. XD
oh, the whole thing where nikki killed those guys instead of the father, i think you're right. but i think that she killed them to protect the father, but people thought that he did it, but he's innocent, and she's so good at killing and hiding evidence, so the only person to accuse is a black male. hmm?
aphro666
10-10-2006, 05:11 PM
I'm going to disagree. The man at the Police Station was Sylar but the man at the bar, is very likely Niki's husband (if the man isn't dead).
A quick trip to IMDB shows the man in the bar was not Nikki's husband (Nikki's husband is a completley different actor, his character can walk through walls, which is the reason the police have not been able to hold him for long. He has not been shown yet, but his character was explained a while ago by the creators). The man in the bar is simply known as "mystery man" right now, ont IMDB
And, I think it is getting pretty obvious who Sylar is
The biggest name actor so far in the series has just played a picture on the back of a book
NoTheNSpiderMan
10-10-2006, 05:15 PM
And, I think it is getting pretty obvious who Sylar is
The biggest name actor so far in the series has just played a picture on the back of a book[/QUOTE]
i think you're right. that would be interesting for mohinder. to find out that his dad was doing all this research because he too has the gift. to stop your dad from world annihilation. wow, that's deep. mebe mohinder might get some powers soon?
Mixairian
10-10-2006, 05:25 PM
A quick trip to IMDB shows the man in the bar was not Nikki's husband (Nikki's husband is a completley different actor, his character can walk through walls, which is the reason the police have not been able to hold him for long. He has not been shown yet, but his character was explained a while ago by the creators). The man in the bar is simply known as "mystery man" right now, ont IMDB
I've actually discovered this just a few minutes ago, my apologies. Having Sylar in the employ of the government doesn't make sense as Mr. Glasses says to Mat in a future episode that they want to learn more about them.
And, I think it is getting pretty obvious who Sylar is
The biggest name actor so far in the series has just played a picture on the back of a book
His father is a very far fetched idea but I'll keep it entertained for a while.
Eddie Brock
10-10-2006, 05:26 PM
And, I think it is getting pretty obvious who Sylar is
The biggest name actor so far in the series has just played a picture on the back of a book
i think you're right. that would be interesting for mohinder. to find out that his dad was doing all this research because he too has the gift. to stop your dad from world annihilation. wow, that's deep. mebe mohinder might get some powers soon?[/QUOTE]
NOOO!
no powers for Mo!!!
spider-neil
10-10-2006, 05:33 PM
the was definately stlyer in the police station and the bar.
police stattion - the kid is obviously a 'super' hence how styler is able to track her
bar - styler tracked the mind reader there. not certain if stlyer has no thoughts or masks his thoughts.
this show is the best thing since JLU it's frecking brilliant.
Eddie Brock
10-10-2006, 05:36 PM
the was definately stlyer in the police station and the bar.
police stattion - the kid is obviously a 'super' hence how styler is able to track her
bar - styler tracked the mind reader there. not certain if stlyer has no thoughts or masks his thoughts.
this show is the best thing since JLU it's frecking brilliant.
i agree with the Police Station and the kid, but i'm still iffy about the bar....
paulyfknt90
10-10-2006, 05:40 PM
isnt clairs addopted dad sylar?
paulyfknt90
10-10-2006, 05:41 PM
isnt clairs addopted dad sylar?
lars573
10-10-2006, 06:01 PM
What's wrong with him removing the heat? Besides, even if he was stopping the molecular motion, he'd still have to remove the heat from their body and displace it around the room. So, really, it's the same thing being explained two different ways.
What's wrong with it, physics, thermo-dynamics, chemistry, you know the laws of the universe. Heat is the kenetic energy of an objects molecules. For Syler to remove heat he'd have to be cold. Colder (like antarctic colder) than what he was removing the heat from.
Some science for you. Heat is molecules in motion. When something is very hot, the molecules are moving very fast, are very spread out and hitting each other a lot. "Removing heat" from one object to another is basically transferring those fast moving molecules to an object that has slower moving molecules packed together. Thus when the motion is transfered, the original object begins to slow down... Thus Sylar could in theory not just "remove heat" but flat out stop it.
Heat is the kenetic energy of molecules. Heat transfer is that kenetic energy being moved from one molecule to another.
I suppose. Or, at the very least, she would have apeared dead to all outside observers.
Which put her in a temporary cataonic state. See how this is circular?
People have survived having objects impaled in their brains. Knifes, sharpnel, bullets you name it. She had no vitals or else she would have been in surgery not the morgue. And if she were even a bit alive in the traditional sense the medical examiner would have figured it out when he cut into her. If your alive, even a bit, your going to bleed (a bit).
The Question
10-10-2006, 06:08 PM
What's wrong with it, physics, thermo-dynamics, chemistry, you know the laws of the universe. Heat is the kenetic energy of an objects molecules. For Syler to remove heat he'd have to be cold. Colder (like antarctic colder) than what he was removing the heat from.
That's not true. I never said he was absorbing the heat. Simply moving it around. Probably spreading it around the room.
Tempest19
10-10-2006, 06:12 PM
Great episode. Jeph Loeb wrote it? Definitely shows, this was the best episode thus far.... also Beeman directed it!!! Known from directing episodes of 'Smallville'.
Hiro had really great scenes.
The scenes between Claire and the quarterback were creepy. Kind of reminded me of the tone of the film 'Unbreakable'. That rape scene- WOW. That was really intense, didn't hold anything back. Seems like next week she gets revenge- wonder how they're going to handle that.
The scene in which Nathan says that Peter was going to commit suicide was- back stabbing, is the best way to put it.
Just, a really REALLY great episode. Favorite thus far. Loeb DEFINITELY needs to write alot more episodes, because this one was the bomb!!!
Oh, and the guy in the bar... pretty sure that was Niki's husband. Or at least that's the vibe that I got from that scene.
imdaly
10-10-2006, 07:01 PM
LOVED this episode!
Thoughts:
- VERY clever use of product placement. They HAD to have THAT model of car because that's what was shown as being used in the comic. Any other model would've not been following the comic. Liked the "That model's in high demand, so I'm not sure we'll have one for you." line. lol
- I actually never even thought that Claire was at an autopsy. The only conclusion in my head was that her dad found her, took her, and is now using her as a guinni pig (just like she worried about) in order to find out how she's able to do what she does. That makes most story-sense to me.
- Hiro rocks my world.
- The special effects on this show are extremely well done! Both the atomic bomb-like effect and the frozen-in-time effect gave me chills!
- Just a thought...but who's to say that "Sylar" isn't a single person, but more of a group of people? Think the "Scrier" from Spider-Man comics.
- Sylar either IS a cop, or was dressed like one when he attacked that little girl's parents in Episode 2. Didn't she think something along the lines of "one of you hurt my parents" or something like that when Weiss...err...Matt found her?
- That
...... )_
.....=(
Sign is EVERYWHERE! Even on Claire's schoolbooks!
- I, too, definitely don't trush Mohinder's new friend. She definitely tipped off whomever about him finding the apartment.
- The artist dude's hand sure recovered quickly, didn't it??
- I. Love. This. Show.
AnimeJune
10-10-2006, 07:06 PM
Well, personally I can't wait to meet Nikki's husband - the guy who escaped. In the press notes they mentioned a Hero who finds he can teleport out of his jail cell, whom we haven't met yet. I'm guessing Nikki's hubby can teleport, but short distances and not in the space-time continuum like Hiro.
PWN3R
10-10-2006, 07:07 PM
This episode got me hooked. First two were solid, but the third? Oh my, I love this show right now.
Hiro's story is ace. Looking to a comic book for guidance? Ace I say! :up:
Eddie Brock
10-10-2006, 07:09 PM
- That
...... )_
.....=(
Sign is EVERYWHERE! Even on Claire's schoolbooks!
actually, it's more like this
....(_
...=)
The Question
10-10-2006, 07:16 PM
Well, personally I can't wait to meet Nikki's husband - the guy who escaped. In the press notes they mentioned a Hero who finds he can teleport out of his jail cell, whom we haven't met yet. I'm guessing Nikki's hubby can teleport, but short distances and not in the space-time continuum like Hiro.
Not teleportation. Phasing. Like Kitty Pryde.
Eddie Brock
10-10-2006, 07:18 PM
Not teleportation. Phasing. Like Kitty Pryde.
be careful, Marvel might sue you for mentioning their stuff
(reference to the Marvel lawsuit against Heroes for talking about the X-Men)
PWN3R
10-10-2006, 07:20 PM
Marvel really did that?! Just because they referenced X-Men in the first episode???
The Question
10-10-2006, 07:22 PM
Joey Q likes suing people. He sued City Of Heroes because the customizable characters could look like Marvel characters. Which, I think, is bull****.
PWN3R
10-10-2006, 07:25 PM
That is total bullsh**!
If anything people who liked the show would look up that X-Men issue Hiro mentioned. Joe Q should thank Heroes then die!:(
And isn't Loeb an exclusive for Marvel now? Good job Quesada, sue a show one of your writers is working on.:rolleyes:
The Question
10-10-2006, 07:28 PM
It's a shame. Marvel used to be so much more human. Not some big corperate entity. I miss those days. :csad: (http://www2.wi.net/~rkurer/toontracker/mmms.html)
PWN3R
10-10-2006, 07:32 PM
It's a shame. Marvel used to be so much more human. Not some big corperate entity. I miss those days. :csad: (http://www2.wi.net/~rkurer/toontracker/mmms.html)
:(:(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/jfirehammer/winter%202006/mmmsbutton.jpg
The Question
10-10-2006, 07:35 PM
I love how Hiro had a membership card in his wallet. :woot:
PWN3R
10-10-2006, 07:37 PM
Yeah, Hiro is one of the strong points of this show. I still can't get over Marvel's lawsuit with Heroes.
Do you have a link to that?
aphro666
10-10-2006, 07:39 PM
That marvel thread was a joke someone wrote to mimic the garbage disposal company, who really is trying to sue for using their garbage disposal to chop up claire's hand.
Does noone get bad takes on sarcasm here?
PWN3R
10-10-2006, 07:44 PM
Ok thats better. But knowing Joe Q, it most likely crossed his mind.
Dread
10-10-2006, 08:17 PM
Suing HEROES for mentioning the X-Men is dumb because, after merely a TRILOGY of films spanning 6 years of real time (not to mention a syndicated show loosely based around it, MUTANT X), the X-Men have become about as common pop-culture wise as Spider-Man or Superman. It also alienates the audience, who are very likely largely comic readers (Loeb writes it, it's called HEROES, the premise is simular to the X-Men themselves along with other comic franchises, it has a "comic-within-a-show", 9TH WONDERS, etc). But, Marvel has always found new ways to alienate an audience somewhere, or act like a bully towards something they see as smaller. Why not sue Disney for all but blatently ripping off the Fantastic Four with THE INCREDIBLES? Is it because Disney is a large fish that would gobble them up? Best to go after smaller prawn, like CITY OF HEROES and this show.
That out of my system, this was my favorite episode so far. Hints start to be dropped and more development happens, but it naturally leaves more questions. Given the ratings, it seems HEROES is on track for at least a second season, and while I like the pace, hopefully they don't string us along too badly for this. But for a 3rd episode, it rocked.
Naturally, my favorite character Hiro was the bollocks. Not only is he using a comic from the future as sort of a "holy grail" guide to his destiny, but his powers really ballooned here. Not only can he travel THROUGH time, he can STOP it (for at least maybe 30 seconds or so). That's rather awesome, and very formidable considering he's not someone you'd expect to be "godly" or combative (unlike, say, Matt, who has a cop's training). I also like him for his personality. No, not because he's a comic geek, but because unlike most of the others, he actively embraces his power and his "destiny", whereas at least half of the other characters want to hide their power, are confused by it, or angst over it. His friend also is pretty cool, too, willing to actually travel with him once Hiro proves his theories true.
Matt also got a good shot to develop after being introduced in the last act of Episode 2. He's a devoted cop, albeit not a "Commisioner Gordon" esque brilliant one, and he has marriage issues. He doesn't have full control of his psychic powers (so far limited to hearing what someone is consciously thinking at that moment, i.e. the conscious, short-term mind), but he is trying. We also got our first look at Syler, who is rather jacked. He seems to have telekenesis (able to throw the female agent around) and can seemingly survive a good five slugs to the torso and escape from heights. I wonder if HEROES will be like RISING STARS, where Syler may somehow "gain" power whenever he kills a "special"? Or is he simply jacked, as a villian who may have to withstand assualts from several heroes at once usually is (think Magneto, who often can fight the X-Men en masse).
I liked the other stuff and characters, too, but not as much. Mohinder uncovers Cyler's lair, only to lose it, and sees that he was pretty much in lock-step with his father's research. The Cheerleader goes to a pep rally or something and her football boyfriend acts to stereotype and crudely attempts to date-rape her, and she wakes up in a morgue after she falls head-first onto a wooden pike and is seemingly dead for a time. I like that her "regeneration" isn't all godly like Lobo or Wolverine's in that if she is seemingly given a mortal wound by an object that remains in her body, she stays "dead" until it is removed. Granted, given her father's creepiness, this may not end up being a good thing. Peter realizes that he can't fly without his brother Nathan, which either confirms that they have a "sibling" power like the Wonder Twins, Mas & Menos, Fenris, or others in which they need to be either touching or close by to use a power. Or he could be some "omnipower" like Rogue's and needs to be with another "special" to access their power. Granted, he's apparently close enough to his brother to have prophetic dreams from Nathan's POV. Nathan, meanwhile, proves to be a political shark. Peter is genuinely interested in his power, but unlike Hiro, it's for more slightly "selfish" means like getting closer to his brother and fulfilling himself (Hiro talks more of fulfilling destiny; granted, Asians and Americans often have different perspectives on individuality). Regardless, I always hated the "sibling" gimmick in powers, always saw it as limiting, especially since they usually have the same weakness; divide them and they're helpless.
Finally, Nikki's story continued as she apparently dug of the graves of gang members her escaped con husband seemingly slew, but who he insists he didn't (like everyone in prison, but this is TV so he probably is innocent). Honestly she's still my least favorite storyline in HEROES but at least it went somewhere here with the skull-ring.
HEROES also uses their TV budget wisely and uses elements of suspense to get around needing to be "flashy" like a lot of other sci-fi shows or X3 was, and that's cool. Nikki's alter ego rages may lose mystique when we finally see one. And no one is in spandex yet (Hiro's concerns aside).
These last two Monday's have been holidays so catching HEROES has been easy, so hopefully I continue to be able to do so now that the next week starts like normal. Definately enjoying the show so far.
The Question
10-10-2006, 08:43 PM
What I don't get is this: How could Sylar clear out his secret lair in New York while he's trying to kill a witness in L.A.? Maybe he's god an acomplice?
Dread
10-10-2006, 08:47 PM
What I don't get is this: How could Sylar clear out his secret lair in New York while he's trying to kill a witness in L.A.? Maybe he's god an acomplice?
Maybe he's part of a larger conspiracy or has allies or something. Or can teleport. ;)
Mixairian
10-10-2006, 08:51 PM
What's wrong with it, physics, thermo-dynamics, chemistry, you know the laws of the universe. Heat is the kenetic energy of an objects molecules. For Syler to remove heat he'd have to be cold. Colder (like antarctic colder) than what he was removing the heat from.
Heat is the kenetic energy of molecules. Heat transfer is that kenetic energy being moved from one molecule to another.
Thus is you stop the movement from one molecule to the next, there would be no heat. Quite simply he redirects where that energy flows using the telekinesis.
People have survived having objects impaled in their brains. Knifes, sharpnel, bullets you name it. She had no vitals or else she would have been in surgery not the morgue. And if she were even a bit alive in the traditional sense the medical examiner would have figured it out when he cut into her. If your alive, even a bit, your going to bleed (a bit).
If she continued bleeding, it would be fair to say that hyper regeneration could not do much for her. Thus as a safety mechanism, the stick lodged into her brain put her into a state of torpor.
That's not true. I never said he was absorbing the heat. Simply moving it around. Probably spreading it around the room.
Alright, you said it better than I.
What I don't get is this: How could Sylar clear out his secret lair in New York while he's trying to kill a witness in L.A.? Maybe he's god an acomplice?
Maybe the woman works for the government too and doesn't want official police involvement.
The Question
10-10-2006, 08:54 PM
Maybe he's part of a larger conspiracy or has allies or something. Or can teleport. ;)
Maybe. I still think a larger consperacy's unlikely. Like I said, I think Mr. Bennett and Sylar are meant to represent two different villain arche-types. Mr. Bennett is the villain of order. The mastermind. His motives, wether self centered or altruistic, will become clear, his methods are pragmatic and logical, and what he does seems to be intended towards keeping or instilling some form of order. Sylar is the villain of chaos. The psycho killer. He hurts people, causes destruction, and makes things stop breathing because he can and because he likes it. So, I think Sylar simply has an acomplice who shares his homicidal veiws.
Mixairian
10-10-2006, 09:00 PM
Maybe. I still think a larger consperacy's unlikely. Like I said, I think Mr. Bennett and Sylar are meant to represent two different villain arche-types. Mr. Bennett is the villain of order. The mastermind. His motives, wether self centered or altruistic, will become clear, his methods are pragmatic and logical, and what he does seems to be intended towards keeping or instilling some form of order. Sylar is the villain of chaos. The psycho killer. He hurts people, causes destruction, and makes things stop breathing because he can and because he likes it. So, I think Sylar simply has an acomplice who shares his homicidal veiws.
QFT
deathshead2
10-10-2006, 09:08 PM
For some reason I want a 9th wonders comic that woul;d be some fine reading there. Oh yeah real fine. Also if they any ofthe heros team up I want hiro to lead them it would be really funny tring to bark out order when they can't understand him. But Hiro friend is like his robin. Im really glad theres a show on on tv not from the sci fi channel that im watching now.:csad: Wish this show had new episodes everyday its just that good and fun to watch.
zanos
10-10-2006, 09:13 PM
All I can say is I can't wait for next week's episode. The last scene was quite shocking.
i-n-z-a-n-e
10-10-2006, 10:41 PM
Very.
The dude with the glasses defintely has a group of superhumans working for him already.I just hope there's more to him than meets the eye.
Loeb is fookin ace!
imdaly
10-11-2006, 02:25 AM
OK, just watched this episode again...
at the beginning of the "Matt and Lesbo confront "Sylar" scene...when they're walking down that halway towards the camera...
The guy that's talking to the other on the left side of the screen, who shakes the other man's hand and then walks off....
Is that Peter's brother, the politician??? Was HE in the building when the confrontation happened?? If so...then "Sylar" HAD to be him... :wow: :wow:
Abaddon
10-11-2006, 03:50 PM
The rape scene threw me.Especially since I was getting a Remy/Rogue vibe from Claire and whatshisface.:wow:
Mixairian
10-11-2006, 03:54 PM
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/
For everyone who is saying Peter is Sylar, quit it already; read the comic.
The rape scene threw me.Especially since I was getting a Remy/Rogue vibe from Claire and whatshisface.:wow:
Believe it or not, there are plenty of 17 year old females that do like a guy but don't want to jump right into sex.
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Mixairian
10-11-2006, 04:14 PM
it's taking forever to load
Short story shorter.
[spoiler]It takes place after Peter admits he and his brother flew. There is a burning building. Someone is trapped at the top. Peter see's that no one has a chance to get to the lady in time. He flies up after her and curses himself for behaving like Nathan. He puts his jacket over the woman, flies her down and runs off. Peter's election pin is still on his jacket and they ladies make a comment about it.[/spoiler
Also note that in Sylar's apartment, there was a picture of Peter on the Sylar's target page.
Abaddon
10-11-2006, 04:17 PM
:whatever: Believe it or not, there are plenty of 17 year old females that do like a guy but don't want to jump right into sex.
I meant because I didn't expect the guy to try and force himself on her.:whatever:
Mixairian
10-11-2006, 04:34 PM
:whatever:
I meant because I didn't expect the guy to try and force himself on her.:whatever:
Maybe I'm being paranoid but the quarterback has always been fishy to me. Technically he's killed her twice and the attention her adopted father paid to the guy caught my attention... Yes it was so father like and expected but he is more than he seems after all.
Eddie Brock
10-11-2006, 04:37 PM
:whatever:
I meant because I didn't expect the guy to try and force himself on her.:whatever:
and why not? he's a horny teenager who just got turned down for sex
Dr Lee
10-11-2006, 04:47 PM
Normal horny teenagers who've just got turned down for sex don't try and rape the girl.
Mixairian
10-11-2006, 05:01 PM
Normal horny teenagers who've just got turned down for sex don't try and rape the girl.
I just bolded the important part in your text. You should also add in drunk. Though I will admit, occurences like these occur more frequently in middle America and football heavy high school town. Just a large number of the incidents go unreported.
Abaddon
10-11-2006, 05:14 PM
He seemed like an alright guy who was genuinely interested in her. :huh:
The only character I've been suspicious of since the get-go was the seemingly sweet and innocent neighbor chick.
Lord Blackbolt
10-11-2006, 05:31 PM
wow...Marvel wanted to Sue this show.....Marvel are the ones that are the biggest dumbasses ever....cause THEY should have been producing a show like this to begin with. They keep on trying to do movies....but when u think about it....a TV show makes way more money overall than a movie ever will.
SuperBatman
10-11-2006, 05:35 PM
so, was that black guy at the bar Sylar
Nah I don't think so if you look at the Trailer it seems he brings the Cop to Claire's Adopted father. I some how think that the Black guy is Nikki Husband.
Dr Lee
10-11-2006, 05:44 PM
nope from what i've seen and heard Nikki's husband is an entirely different character.
The black guy was credited as 'Mystery Man' on IMDB and possibly the end credits (though don't quote me as i'm probably wrong)
Upset Spideyfan
10-11-2006, 05:47 PM
Short story shorter.
[spoiler]It takes place after Peter admits he and his brother flew. There is a burning building. Someone is trapped at the top. Peter see's that no one has a chance to get to the lady in time. He flies up after her and curses himself for behaving like Nathan. He puts his jacket over the woman, flies her down and runs off. Peter's election pin is still on his jacket and they ladies make a comment about it.[/spoiler
Also note that in Sylar's apartment, there was a picture of Peter on the Sylar's target page.
You're getting Peter and Nathan confused.
SuperBatman
10-11-2006, 05:48 PM
Great episode. There were 2 or 3 scenes that kind of creeped me out.
- Sylar getting up after supposely being shot up by the cop.
I just got some Terminator Vibes watching that.
SuperBatman
10-11-2006, 05:50 PM
I wonder where Hiro is going get the Next comic book? Think there will be another visit to the future?
Upset Spideyfan
10-11-2006, 05:53 PM
The comic gave them a direction to start off in but now Hiro and Ando have to go on alone. Hence the last page's line that said something close to, "We're on our own now."
They won't be getting another comic.
SuperBatman
10-11-2006, 05:55 PM
The Comic did say to be contiued though.
Upset Spideyfan
10-11-2006, 08:48 PM
Yeah but the artist dies before he can make the next comic (and NY goes nuclear).
Mixairian
10-11-2006, 09:16 PM
You're getting Peter and Nathan confused.
Which one is the politician and which one is the whiney girl again?
RockSP
10-11-2006, 09:46 PM
What I don't get is this: How could Sylar clear out his secret lair in New York while he's trying to kill a witness in L.A.? Maybe he's god an acomplice?
The chick with Mohinder obviously had something to with it. Or at least that's what they are leading us to believe...
RockSP
10-11-2006, 09:47 PM
Yeah but the artist dies before he can make the next comic (and NY goes nuclear).
Not necessarily, since Hiro is changing the future.
Enzyme
10-11-2006, 09:54 PM
Mildly better than the previous episodes.
Hiro is still the only likable character and I still can't wait for Ali Larter's scenes to end.
Sylar's first apperance wasn't great, the guy goes on a murderous rampage but has trouble with a resistant pre-teen girl. After seeing that his bullet survival didn't seem impressive.
I wish I could like this show, but it's just so terrible.
Upset Spideyfan
10-11-2006, 10:46 PM
Not necessarily, since Hiro is changing the future.
But he won't be able to go into the future to get another comic until he changes whatever event leads to the artist's death.
Spider-Fan83
10-11-2006, 11:22 PM
But he won't be able to go into the future to get another comic until he changes whatever event leads to the artist's death.
since, it was 5 week into the future, that he found the comic, how do we know it was the last one made, it could of been part of a series that were based on each of the characters.
what I was think about was, that he is following the event of the comic from the future, so, he is basely making the events of the comic happen, which is made base on his actions that the artist see, so, if he didn't go in the future too get the comic, the comic wouldn't of been made,
or something like that lol
Edit: sry double post
Spider-Fan83
10-11-2006, 11:25 PM
edit:
though, if hiro is going to try to meet the artist, and he shows him the comic, to tell him the events of how he got there, and as prove of his abilities, maybe, he just recreates the comic to put out, to insure that when hiro went into the future it would be there for him to find.
if any of that makes scent
SuperBatman
10-12-2006, 12:16 AM
So why is Hiro going to Vegas. TO get Nikki maybe?
Mixairian
10-12-2006, 12:19 AM
So why is Hiro going to Vegas. TO get Nikki maybe?
Cause the comic book told him to. :)
lars573
10-12-2006, 12:22 AM
So why is Hiro going to Vegas. TO get Nikki maybe?
That's why Ando's going. :wow:
Wolfwood
10-12-2006, 01:30 AM
Maybe. I still think a larger consperacy's unlikely. Like I said, I think Mr. Bennett and Sylar are meant to represent two different villain arche-types. Mr. Bennett is the villain of order. The mastermind. His motives, wether self centered or altruistic, will become clear, his methods are pragmatic and logical, and what he does seems to be intended towards keeping or instilling some form of order. Sylar is the villain of chaos. The psycho killer. He hurts people, causes destruction, and makes things stop breathing because he can and because he likes it. So, I think Sylar simply has an acomplice who shares his homicidal veiws.
I hope this brings the two (Sylar and Bennett) into direct conflict with each other. Although then again, who's to say one isn't already looking for the other.
faceplant
10-12-2006, 02:04 PM
Which one is the politician and which one is the whiney girl again?
Nathan is the politician, peter is the whiny girl
AnimeJune
10-12-2006, 02:09 PM
Nathan is the politician, peter is the whiny girlNow, now - Peter cleans up mighty nice. :cwink: I think Peter might be the one to use his powers for good, whereas Nathan either suppresses them, or uses them for more ambivilent reasons.
I'm still ticked about what Nathan did to Peter - making up some BS about depression. That's a serious statement to make, that could seriously affect his brother's life! ARGH!
Upset Spideyfan
10-12-2006, 03:45 PM
Nathan priorities are mixed up, he's way too ready to use Peter to further his own career, and likes to deflect his problems rather than face what's really wrong with his family, but at the end of the day I think its obvious that he cares about Peter and his mom, even if he is less than the perfect brother/son most of the time.
Gold Samurai
10-12-2006, 04:35 PM
edit:
though, if hiro is going to try to meet the artist, and he shows him the comic, to tell him the events of how he got there, and as prove of his abilities, maybe, he just recreates the comic to put out, to insure that when hiro went into the future it would be there for him to find.
if any of that makes scent
I just find it funny that the comic will get as a big as a novel by the end of the season with all the events happening being recorded.
The Question
10-12-2006, 06:23 PM
I hope this brings the two (Sylar and Bennett) into direct conflict with each other. Although then again, who's to say one isn't already looking for the other.
Very true. Seems likely to me that they might form an alliance and end up betraying each other.
Poeman
10-12-2006, 08:39 PM
look at the scene in the show again
looks like sylar has a beard, like mohinders father
StorminNorman
10-12-2006, 09:22 PM
Now, now - Peter cleans up mighty nice. :cwink: I think Peter might be the one to use his powers for good, whereas Nathan either suppresses them, or uses them for more ambivilent reasons.
I'm still ticked about what Nathan did to Peter - making up some BS about depression. That's a serious statement to make, that could seriously affect his brother's life! ARGH!
Again, according to the comics - Nathan saves a woman using his powers. So he is not a 100% ass, just 90%.
Actually, I hope to be that man some day.:ninja:
AnimeJune
10-13-2006, 10:38 AM
Again, according to the comics - Nathan saves a woman using his powers. So he is not a 100% ass, just 90%.
Actually, I hope to be that man some day.:ninja:Argh! I have not been reading the comics!
Should I? Or does it spoil other episodes....
faceplant
10-13-2006, 07:20 PM
Now, now - Peter cleans up mighty nice. :cwink: I think Peter might be the one to use his powers for good, whereas Nathan either suppresses them, or uses them for more ambivilent reasons.
I'm still ticked about what Nathan did to Peter - making up some BS about depression. That's a serious statement to make, that could seriously affect his brother's life! ARGH!
but he's so sappy and emotional....it's like waaaahhhhhh (that's a crying noise by the way) i think i can fly, waaaaaahhhhhhh i don't want to be a nurse anymore, waaaaaahhhhhhh my brother's an a-hole.
Sub-Zero
10-13-2006, 08:36 PM
Mildly better than the previous episodes.
Hiro is still the only likable character and I still can't wait for Ali Larter's scenes to end.
Sylar's first apperance wasn't great, the guy goes on a murderous rampage but has trouble with a resistant pre-teen girl. After seeing that his bullet survival didn't seem impressive.
I wish I could like this show, but it's just so terrible.
for some reason i think that there's more to that little girl than they are letting on. pretty sure she's one of the "heroes" why else would sylar want to kidnap her? there has to be a method to his madness.
and i agree, hiro is the only likeable character other than mohinder. the others need to step it up soon.
StorminNorman
10-13-2006, 11:23 PM
Argh! I have not been reading the comics!
Should I? Or does it spoil other episodes....
I had the same fears you did - but don't worry, they are basically filler. It does, however, give you more insight into the characters.
Hiro's comic is very good, it does, however, show a side of Hiro we don't see in the in the movie.
LadyVader
10-14-2006, 10:09 AM
Another episode ending with a killer cliffhanger (no pun intended). I am loving this show, altough I think I'm getting tired of the score. I especially love the voice overs. They remind me of outer limits.
Fanticon
10-14-2006, 03:20 PM
finally got around to watching my tivo'd episode...it was good...it had some humor too from peter (much needed cuz he's already a drama queen)...anyway can't wait till next week...I really want to see something big go down...flying...super strength...villains...something...no more teases.
Venom_14
10-14-2006, 11:07 PM
I really want to see something big go down...flying...super strength...villains...something...no more teases. i agree...im kinda mad that super strengh wasnt somebodys power.
AnimeJune
10-15-2006, 04:23 PM
i agree...im kinda mad that super strengh wasnt somebodys power.Super strength is overdone - it's the basic, prototype superpower that's always featured.
I'm actually glad they didn't have it for once.
GhostPoet
10-16-2006, 03:05 PM
Oh wow...amazing episode. This show is so freaking awesome. :) Easily my all time favorite series right now!!!!
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