View Full Version : Jackman says script is ready
ultimatefan
10-15-2006, 08:17 AM
Check the main page. Given this is a Fox movie, it´s so freaking refreshing to see for once they´re not rushing out the script. If you saw The 25th Hour, you know Benioff can deliver a kickass script.
Morgoth
10-15-2006, 11:32 PM
Okay, it's a prequel for sure, and they aren't getting into the japanese stuff.
So I take it there might be a prologue of him as a boy from the Origin story, and it'll deal with his life in Canada. They had better involve Sabretooth, and when he worked for the governement etc.
I'd love to show Sabretooth and Logan as partners then showing how Sabretooth got out of hand, like in the comics when they were suppose to protect that woman and when they got her info or whatever Creed just killed her.
Destructicus
10-16-2006, 10:06 AM
its about time.
THE MR. TERRIFIC
10-16-2006, 12:20 PM
:wolverine Let's Go BUB!!!
WeaponXProject
10-16-2006, 02:07 PM
Here we go baby! The time has come!
No Jap stuff is a bummer but I think we can understand how they will eventually fall back on that. That pretty much means no Silver Samurai, etc.
I'm betting this movie is based on the Logan's life as James Howlett, how he becomes logan, how Sabretoothe works with Logan, then how Sabretoothe hate's him and is jealous of the weapon x project, the weapon x project, the escape, and what becomes of logan before he joins the xmen. Basically a lot of mean ass Logan and the tricky government.
FireandIce213
10-16-2006, 02:12 PM
I hope they cater this film to an older audience now...I think that along with The Punisher, Wolverine is one of the most violent characters in comic books. They need to show that violence because its the only real way this film can be done right...Though either way im gonna see this movie...
chaseter
10-16-2006, 06:01 PM
Maybe they can get into the Jap stuff in the sequel of the prequel. Jackman said he wasn't ruling out a sequel.
flavio_lebeau
10-16-2006, 08:20 PM
yeah, its good to see that at least when it comes to Wolverine, they dont do a half-ass job and actually work on the project before it gets released, unlike with all the trilogy. If only they did this to the X-men...there's life outside of Wolverine :(
Parker
10-16-2006, 08:22 PM
there's life outside of Wolverine :(
Somebody needs to tell that to Joe Quesada.
flavio_lebeau
10-16-2006, 08:28 PM
Somebody needs to tell that to Joe Quesada.
maybe it would be better if someone told that to FOX? :(
Parker
10-16-2006, 08:30 PM
maybe it would be better if someone told that to FOX? :(
It all starts with the Quesadilla, though. If comic books stop putting so much unnecessary attention on Wolverine and signing him up on every freakin' super-team conceivable, FOX and the rest of Hollywood won't exhaust all of their energy on the character trying to follow fads and what sells.
flavio_lebeau
10-16-2006, 08:33 PM
It all starts with the Quesadilla, though. If comic books stop putting so much unnecessary attention on Wolverine and signing him up on every freakin' super-team conceivable, FOX and the rest of Hollywood won't exhaust all of their energy on the character trying to follow fads and what sells.
i see...damn. I dont hate Wolverine, i like him, i even go to costume parties dressed as him (mostly because, this way, i know i'll be recognised :p) but his overexposure is killing all his charisma...i want a damn team movie, not a Logan and His Amazing Friends. Maybe he going out for his spin-off would leave place for the real X-men team (only in my dreamss, i know).
Parker
10-16-2006, 08:38 PM
i see...damn. I dont hate Wolverine, i like him, i even go to costume parties dressed as him (mostly because, this way, i know i'll be recognised :p) but his overexposure is killing all his charisma...i want a damn team movie, not a Logan and His Amazing Friends. Maybe he going out for his spin-off would leave place for the real X-men team (only in my dreamss, i know).
Maybe someone will pick up the franchise in the next six or seven years and give us Stan Lee's X-Men.
Fingers crossed. :cwink:
flavio_lebeau
10-16-2006, 08:38 PM
Maybe someone will pick up the franchise in the next six or seven years and give us Stan Lee's X-Men.
maybe...
KingOfDreams
10-16-2006, 10:39 PM
25th Hour is a great movie. Getting the person who wrote that to write Wolverine is definitely a good move.
Reikowolf
10-17-2006, 12:16 PM
looks like the origin story for sure
would be cool to see him stab Logan with his new claws tho. That was my fav part in the Origin story.
WeaponXProject
10-17-2006, 02:31 PM
Maybe they can get into the Jap stuff in the sequel of the prequel. Jackman said he wasn't ruling out a sequel.
Yeah Jackman said he's interested in a sequel so...hopefully. We all know there's to much to tell for one movie.
WeaponXProject
10-17-2006, 02:33 PM
25th Hour is a great movie. Getting the person who wrote that to write Wolverine is definitely a good move.
Good point. 25th hour was fantastic, so is Benioff so hopefully we're both right on this.
Hitch-Hiker
10-17-2006, 03:28 PM
Benioff is a good writer. When I saw this my hopes were immediately raised for this movie. My best guess is it will follow the origins of Weapon X. I'm kinda glad they're not going into the Japaneses stuff. I don't think that would translate as well to film.
Mother_Askani
10-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Benioff is one of the writers who did a hack job on the Ender's Game movie scripts, which was rejected by Warner Bros and according to those that read it, completely ignoring the entire message of the book. Based on that, he didn't seem keen on adapting a novel, he wanted to do his own original take on it. I don't see that as a good sign for Wolverine fans.
Retroman
10-19-2006, 03:59 AM
Benioff is one of the writers who did a hack job on the Ender's Game movie scripts, which was rejected by Warner Bros and according to those that read it, completely ignoring the entire message of the book. Based on that, he didn't seem keen on adapting a novel, he wanted to do his own original take on it. I don't see that as a good sign for Wolverine fans.
Read some things Benioff had to say about Logan. He seems to know quite a bit about him.:cwink:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236458
Retroman
10-19-2006, 04:06 AM
After 2 years of work the script is ready and Fox are taking their time to make sure Wolverine is done right. Giving the director a good amount of time to prep.This is all great but why couldn't they use the same approach with X-Men The Last Stand? It angers me that Wolverine is getting the royal treatment X3 also should have had.
While Benioff got all the time in the world to perfect his script Fox was snapping at the heels of Penn and Kinberg finish theres.
P.S: The writers for X3, Wolverine and Magneto were all signed around same time - fall/winter 2004.
flavio_lebeau
10-19-2006, 08:45 AM
After 2 years of work the script is ready and Fox are taking their time to make sure Wolverine is done right. Giving the director a good amount of time to prep.This is all great but why couldn't they use the same approach with X-Men The Last Stand? It angers me that Wolverine is getting the royal treatment X3 also should have had.
While Benioff got all the time in the world to perfect his script Fox was snapping at the heels of Penn and Kinberg finish theres.
P.S: The writers for X3, Wolverine and Magneto were all signed around same time - fall/winter 2004.
doesnt that makes you hate FOX? Why do they think Wolverine is more rentable than the entire X-men? :( he's not...
namenogimmicks
10-19-2006, 02:33 PM
that is why Marvel making self-financed movies,
coz FOX changed the complete whole x-men thing.
Wolverine as main character?
who would think about it beside FOX? not even Stan Lee i think
RonStoppablefan
10-19-2006, 04:22 PM
Well I'm glad this is going to be a presequal, and am happy there going to try and get it right this time. I'm also really happy Huge Jackman is going to be in it as Wolverine, he's done an awesome job of the character so far. So yah can't wait ^_^
Retroman
10-19-2006, 04:49 PM
doesnt that makes you hate FOX?
Just a little. :p
Why do they think Wolverine is more rentable than the entire X-men? :( he's not...
I think Wolverine's background is very interesting and could be an awesome film but i'd rather they make an X4 first. Will the general audience go and see this? I'm pretty sure they will seeing how popular Hugh Jackman and Wolverine have become. Will it do X-Men numbers? A lot depends on the director they choose, the casting and the release date.
CaptainCanada
10-19-2006, 07:32 PM
that is why Marvel making self-financed movies,
coz FOX changed the complete whole x-men thing.
Wolverine as main character?
who would think about it beside FOX?
Wolverine is the team's most popular character, so I suspect he was likely to end up the main character of any film adaptation.
I think FOX rushed X-Men: The Last Stand because they were predetermined to get it out by May 2006. It was a date that they set before Singer left, and they wanted to keep it. I think postponing it would've delayed the production even further than desired, because all the actors were sort of positioned to return and not all of them had contracts (the big players like Jackman, McKellen, Stewart, Janssen, etc. re-signed for the third one).
I think Fox was worried about their share holders and were worried that if the film was delayed, they might've not been able to get all of the cast back, and I know for sure that the last thing Fox wanted to do was start re-casting roles. Who knows when the next time the entire cast was available to do the movie was. It was sort of "now or never", in Fox's eyes, I think.
With Wolverine, they don't have that problem. Hugh Jackman is comitted, and Fox isn't predetermined to a set date. So they can let Jackman do other projects first (which he's doing) and let Benioff create a great script (which he's doing). The next task is hiring a director, and I think it'll be smooth sailing from there.
WeaponXProject
10-22-2006, 02:11 AM
[quote=Retroman]After 2 years of work the script is ready and Fox are taking their time to make sure Wolverine is done right. Giving the director a good amount of time to prep.This is all great but why couldn't they use the same approach with X-Men The Last Stand? It angers me that Wolverine is getting the royal treatment X3 also should have had.
Yea, but now the Marvel Studios has control, and I mean most of control, of the movie they can do what they want. X-men 3 could have been better, I thought it was a good finale, for all Ratner knew that's what it was. Otherwise, Wolverine, the movie, is starting on a strong note. They have the script, the main star, and have time to set between who goes where, and what goes to what, etc. I wish it would have had the royal treatment but that bastar$ Singer left for Superman, which did awful at the box-office and deserved nothing more. That's what you get for starting a project of stardom and moving on without finishing.
Fanticon
10-31-2006, 01:44 PM
referring to the main page headline...I like what Hugh has to say about Wolverine's story coming together. And praising Benoif.:up:
Cyclops
10-31-2006, 02:14 PM
Ideally, the script for this film should be based heavily upon Barry windsor-Smith's "Weapon X" storyline. There were enough hints to it in the first two films that this is the story they need to tell. Not Logan's childhood, not his high school experience (I am really opposed to that idea), or any of that. If anything, go back to his Team X days with Sabertooth and Maverick, but no further. We don't need his childhood, we need the story of what made him into Wolverine.
As for why this isn't being rushed and hacked like X3 was, Fox doesn't feel the need to panic like they did for X3. See, with X3, they saw it as important to best Superman into theaters, regardless of the quality of the product. Get the cheapest, fastest thing tossed together that they could manage, it didn't matter how good it was as long as it was first. But for Wolverine, there isn't anything that it has to beat into theaters.
Fanticon
10-31-2006, 03:09 PM
Ideally, the script for this film should be based heavily upon Barry windsor-Smith's "Weapon X" storyline. There were enough hints to it in the first two films that this is the story they need to tell. Not Logan's childhood, not his high school experience (I am really opposed to that idea), or any of that. If anything, go back to his Team X days with Sabertooth and Maverick, but no further. We don't need his childhood, we need the story of what made him into Wolverine.
As for why this isn't being rushed and hacked like X3 was, Fox doesn't feel the need to panic like they did for X3. See, with X3, they saw it as important to best Superman into theaters, regardless of the quality of the product. Get the cheapest, fastest thing tossed together that they could manage, it didn't matter how good it was as long as it was first. But for Wolverine, there isn't anything that it has to beat into theaters.
good points...but by no means was X3 a cheap movie...and I'm ofcourse talking about the reported over budgeted 150m dollars ballooning at one point to a reported 185 or 200m...not including marketing costs.
Cyclops
10-31-2006, 04:12 PM
I didn't say cheap, I said as cheap as possible. And you could really tell when watching the movie that they cut a whole lot of corners. But that's a topic for another thread and I'd prefer to keep certain people off my back.
WeaponXProject
11-01-2006, 02:52 AM
This movie's script should be discussed when somebody gets there hands on it...(nudge, nudge)....can somebody get there hands on it? JK but it's Benioff, no doubts from me. If it were Penn I'd have doubts.
Dark Knight
11-01-2006, 10:55 PM
the director should be Fincher.....but Avi is to stubborn for that....
Joe Carnahan or Doug Liman should be considered as well.
GoldGoblin
11-02-2006, 01:14 AM
-When are they gonna start filming?
-When will we get to find out what the story will be about?
-When will we get to find out what other characters are in the film?
narrows101
11-02-2006, 06:51 AM
-When are they gonna start filming?
-When will we get to find out what the story will be about?
-When will we get to find out what other characters are in the film?
Hugh is doing another movie first starting in March, and I just read an article which says they are filming in one particular place in July, so "Wolverine" won't start at least before August probably.
GoldGoblin
11-03-2006, 06:57 PM
You think Wolverine will be on another team of mutants like Alpha Flight,or that we will get to see him before he got his adamantium skeleton?
WeaponXProject
11-04-2006, 12:19 AM
You think Wolverine will be on another team of mutants like Alpha Flight,or that we will get to see him before he got his adamantium skeleton?
Well I don't know about the first part but when I read the opening act of Benioff's on Latinoreview.com it had scenes of before Logan had claws but the guy only showed one part of act one. So hopefully we see some bone claws.
GoldGoblin
11-04-2006, 04:46 AM
Well I don't know about the first part but when I read the opening act of Benioff's on Latinoreview.com it had scenes of before Logan had claws but the guy only showed one part of act one. So hopefully we see some bone claws.
^Did Wolverine have bone claws before he got an adamantium skeleton,I thought he was just a mutant that could heal physically fast before that,and the claws were just added?
tecnowraith
11-04-2006, 10:59 AM
I am trying to remember if Jackman was fan of Chris Claremont which had Alpha Flight. If so who knows, they might.
storm-x-fan
11-04-2006, 08:51 PM
this movie seems boring............
Cyclops
11-04-2006, 09:00 PM
How do you know? Are you privvy to script information that we haven't seen? And if so, would you care to share it?
danoyse
11-05-2006, 01:11 AM
^Did Wolverine have bone claws before he got an adamantium skeleton,I thought he was just a mutant that could heal physically fast before that,and the claws were just added?
Yeah, according to the Origin series he'd had bone claws from when he was a kid. The review that leaked on Latinoreview a few months back looked like the movie was going to show that Wolverine had bone claws before the adamantium.
WeaponXProject
11-05-2006, 08:13 PM
Hold on I'll find the info....it was here http://movies.go.com/buzzbin?columnid=839243 and then click on the underlined script review part but...they took it away cause we weren't suppossed to see it. :csad: I'll find it for us.
WeaponXProject
11-05-2006, 08:16 PM
Here it is...check it out 'clops. http://www.filmwad.com/wolverine-script-review-575-p.html
Horhey
11-06-2006, 03:37 PM
Newsflash! Wolverine movie is NOT a prequal. Hugh Jackman says it could be considered to be X4.
narrows101
11-06-2006, 03:54 PM
Newsflash! Wolverine movie is NOT a prequal. Hugh Jackman says it could be considered to be X4. I don't think so:
http://www.countingdown.com/features?feature_id=3914452
I don't want the film to appear at all like X-Men 4 in disguise. I want it to feel like a very fresh, whole new character piece. I want it to be a character movie, and I really want it by the end of the movie for it to be definitive you knew who this guy was. Some cool action, some great characters, but ultimately, that you totally know who Wolverine is.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=10488994
Q: We know that it's a prequel is it going to follow any of the Japanese storylines?
HJ: At present no, that is something that we really want to do, that's a whole other movie. What we really want to do is establish who he is and find out how he became Wolverine.
Q: So there is a possibility of Wolverine 2?
HJ: I'm not ruling it out.
WeaponXProject
11-06-2006, 09:43 PM
If it is not a prequel, and judging from the first acts summary it is....I think it could be a flashback, him retracing his steps and piecing things together. I hope its not a sequel or X4-ish.
Horhey
11-08-2006, 11:36 AM
How could it be a prequal when in X1 and X2 he doesnt remember anything. The Wolverine movie is supposed to be about him discovering everything about his past. He is supposed to take the killing all the way to Japan. Im thinking its going to follow the current "Origins" series.
danoyse
11-08-2006, 01:29 PM
How could it be a prequal when in X1 and X2 he doesnt remember anything. The Wolverine movie is supposed to be about him discovering everything about his past. He is supposed to take the killing all the way to Japan. Im thinking its going to follow the current "Origins" series.
Well, it's a prequel that's going to take place before he lost his memory.
I can't see them making a movie right from the current Origins series. First of all, they said the script is done and the Origins is nowhere near finished yet. Plus, Wolverine has all of his memories back in Origins, they'd had have to explain how all of that happened during House of M. I don't think the movie is supposed to be that big.
WeaponXProject
11-08-2006, 01:59 PM
The Japanese stuff isn't in the movie. Jackman and Schuler said so. :csad: That sux to me.
Horhey
11-08-2006, 02:01 PM
Well, it's a prequel that's going to take place before he lost his memory.
I can't see them making a movie right from the current Origins series. First of all, they said the script is done and the Origins is nowhere near finished yet. Plus, Wolverine has all of his memories back in Origins, they'd had have to explain how all of that happened during House of M. I don't think the movie is supposed to be that big.
Yea but Daniel Way may have told the writer where the story was headed. Logan is also supposed to have all his memories in the movie too.
Cyclops
11-09-2006, 01:34 AM
How could it be a prequal when in X1 and X2 he doesnt remember anything. The Wolverine movie is supposed to be about him discovering everything about his past. He is supposed to take the killing all the way to Japan. Im thinking its going to follow the current "Origins" series.
Is it him discovering his past or us discovering his past?
Celestial
11-09-2006, 10:09 AM
Is it him discovering his past or us discovering his past?
Good point.
So we could have a sequel where he discovers his past, complete with flashbacks, or a prequel where we're shown his past and how he came to forget it.
danoyse
11-09-2006, 01:17 PM
Is it him discovering his past or us discovering his past?
I believe it's us discovering his past, if that script review leaked a few months ago was legit. It mentioned it would show how he lost his memory.
It also sounds like they're bringing back Brian Cox as Stryker, I've read that in a few places as well.
narrows101
11-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Hugh has said in a few interviews that it's a prequel.
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 01:24 PM
Good point.
So we could have a sequel where he discovers his past, complete with flashbacks, or a prequel where we're shown his past and how he came to forget it.
Yeah that's how I thought they would do things. :yay: I would think the sequel would be a retracing the steps thing and a revenge factor.
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 01:25 PM
I believe it's us discovering his past, if that script review leaked a few months ago was legit. It mentioned it would show how he lost his memory.
It also sounds like they're bringing back Brian Cox as Stryker, I've read that in a few places as well.
Cool. I loved Stryker, they need him in there.:up:
Horhey
11-09-2006, 01:31 PM
Im hoping Omega Red is in it if Sabretooth isnt.
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 01:49 PM
I hope there both in it in seperate scenes or flashbacks but I want Sabs to be the main "bub" for Logan to mess with.
Cyclops
11-09-2006, 04:08 PM
Sabretooth needs to be the bad guy. He's Wolverine's archfoe and in an ensemble film, it's hard to express that.
Horhey
11-09-2006, 06:53 PM
In X1 it is pretty clear Sabretooth knows who Wolverine is becouse he keeps his dog tag. Maybe the Wolverine movie will expand on that.
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 06:58 PM
I don't know....I thought he took the tags to give to Magneto. It seems to me more like he tagged Wolverine as his main prey more than he knew him. Either way it is/was cool.
I wonder if this script is gonna be reviewed soon since it is now finished. Hopefully Latino Review will get it again but I doubt it bc they leaked info after reading the first act last time it was reviewed. What are some other script review sites, any one know of any?
Horhey
11-09-2006, 07:05 PM
I don't know....I thought he took the tags to give to Magneto. It seems to me more like he tagged Wolverine as his main prey more than he knew him. Either way it is/was cool.
I wonder if this script is gonna be reviewed soon since it is now finished. Hopefully Latino Review will get it again but I doubt it bc they leaked info after reading the first act last time it was reviewed. What are some other script review sites, any one know of any?
Nah, watch it again. He took the tags for himself. Magneto then grabed the tags off of Sabretooth's neck and then Sabretooth took them back. He was wearing them while he was fighting Wolverine on the Statue of Liberty.
danoyse
11-09-2006, 07:07 PM
What are some other script review sites, any one know of any?
Someone on JoBlo.com claimed to have read it a few weeks back...didn't give details, but said it was really good, except the ending needed some work.
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 07:08 PM
That's really cool. They should have made it more noticeable like Sabretooth saying, "I know who and what you are....and what you were." That would have been sweet if Sabretooth voiced his personal vendetta against Wolverine.
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 07:11 PM
Someone on JoBlo.com claimed to have read it a few weeks back...didn't give details, but said it was really good, except the ending needed some work.
Do you wanna see some of Act I....i got it.
Here it is....http://www.filmwad.com/wolverine-script-review-575-p.html
Horhey
11-09-2006, 07:16 PM
Uh oh! This script is already flawed! Wolverine was 12 years old in the 1800's. Football didnt even exist!
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 07:21 PM
Uh oh! This script is already flawed! Wolverine was 12 years old in the 1800's. Football didnt even exist!
Yea I was worried about that too. But that's the only flaw of it all. I don't know if thats how it will be in the film anyways but its the basic idea of what the film starts out as.
danoyse
11-09-2006, 07:23 PM
Uh oh! This script is already flawed! Wolverine was 12 years old in the 1800's. Football didnt even exist!
It doesn't sound like the opening takes place in the 1800s.
And football has existed for centuries. :oldrazz:
Horhey
11-09-2006, 07:25 PM
Yea I was worried about that too. But that's the only flaw of it all. I don't know if thats how it will be in the film anyways but its the basic idea of what the film starts out as.
Yea, the script is "first rate" so far. Does Sabretooth have an Adamantium skeleton and claws like he does in the comics? Ill be a little disapointed if Logan's Samurai history isnt in the movie.
Horhey
11-09-2006, 07:26 PM
It doesn't sound like the opening takes place in the 1800s.
And football has existed for centuries. :oldrazz:
If thats true please dont assume that I am stupid. :csad:
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 07:31 PM
Yea, the script is "first rate" so far. Does Sabretooth have an Adamantium skeleton and claws like he does in the comics? Ill be a little disapointed if Logan's Samurai history isnt in the movie.
The Samurai history is NOT in the movie and that sucks. And I don't believe Sabretooth has Adamantium claws as to be part of him being jealous of Wolverine for getting them.
danoyse
11-09-2006, 07:32 PM
If thats true please dont assume that I am stupid. :csad:
No, I wouldn't do that. :)
And it's true--variations of football has been around since medieval times. That can be everyone's little useless fact for the day. :oldrazz:
It sounds like they're not going back to the Origin story from the comics (that would be a movie all by itself), I'm curious to see how they adapt it from there.
WeaponXProject
11-09-2006, 07:33 PM
In a flashback way I think they will go back to his origins but it will be less like the Origin comics we have read.
Horhey
11-09-2006, 07:33 PM
The Samurai history is NOT in the movie and that sucks. And I don't believe Sabretooth has Adamantium claws as to be part of him being jealous of Wolverine for getting them.
Sabretooth without Adamantium is not on Wolverine's level.
Cyclops
11-09-2006, 07:43 PM
I would say they were fairly evenly matched all throughout their rivalry, adamantium notwithstanding.
WeaponXProject
11-14-2006, 11:54 PM
Sabretooth without Adamantium is not on Wolverine's level.
Really....he's a bigger version of Wolvy without claws and adamantium. That doesn't defeat the purpose. I think having two mutants exactly the same is melodramatic. BC then it would seem Sabretooth would have the upper hand. He does have sharp claw like nails and all. He can still heal so...
Horhey
11-15-2006, 01:47 PM
Really....he's a bigger version of Wolvy without claws and adamantium. That doesn't defeat the purpose. I think having two mutants exactly the same is melodramatic. BC then it would seem Sabretooth would have the upper hand. He does have sharp claw like nails and all. He can still heal so...
Nah, when Sabretooth has Adamantium they are equal. Sabretooth is stronger but Wolverine has better fighting skills.
Wolverine is a Level 7 in Fighting Skills (Master of all forms of combat) and Sabretooth is a level 6 (Master of several forms of combat)
They are both a level 4 in strength (Enhanced Human, 900 lbs - 2 ton range). No significant difference.
If Sabretooth didnt have Adamantium Wolverine could slice him into pieces.
storm-x-fan
11-15-2006, 07:43 PM
Nah, when Sabretooth has Adamantium they are equal. Sabretooth is stronger but Wolverine has better fighting skills.
Wolverine is a Level 7 in Fighting Skills (Master of all forms of combat) and Sabretooth is a level 6 (Master of several forms of combat)
They are both a level 4 in strength (Enhanced Human, 900 lbs - 2 ton range). No significant difference.
If Sabretooth didnt have Adamantium Wolverine could slice him into pieces.
sabretooth has adamantan??? :huh: i still think wolvie is WAY stronger. :o :woot:
Horhey
11-16-2006, 11:08 AM
sabretooth has adamantan??? :huh: i still think wolvie is WAY stronger. :o :woot:
Yea, hes had Adamantium since Wolverine vol 2 #163.
WeaponXProject
11-16-2006, 03:31 PM
Nah, when Sabretooth has Adamantium they are equal. Sabretooth is stronger but Wolverine has better fighting skills.
Wolverine is a Level 7 in Fighting Skills (Master of all forms of combat) and Sabretooth is a level 6 (Master of several forms of combat)
They are both a level 4 in strength (Enhanced Human, 900 lbs - 2 ton range). No significant difference.
If Sabretooth didnt have Adamantium Wolverine could slice him into pieces.
I don't think they will match up to your measurements or Marvel's exact measurements in the movie. Wolvy doesn't slice anyone into peices in any of the movies and I've never seen him do it to anything but a robot. Equal Foes do not necessarily need equal powers. A la Spidey and Venom. Venom is stronger and bigger but Spidey gets the best of him. Luke vs. Darth Vader, same thing.
WeaponXProject
11-16-2006, 03:33 PM
You see they have similar powers but size difference, outsmarts, and the way the battle falls is makes it more dramatic.
Horhey
11-16-2006, 03:50 PM
You see they have similar powers but size difference, outsmarts, and the way the battle falls is makes it more dramatic.
Yea but the only reason Logan doesnt slice anyone into pieces in the movies is becouse its PG-13 but in the comics he does cuz they are rated M (Mature readers).
Size doesnt really matter all that much. Wolverine fights the Hulk to a stalemate and hes like a peanut compared to him.
WeaponXProject
11-17-2006, 10:56 AM
Comics are much different than live action movies. The size ratio of Wolverine and Sabretooth is important in the fact that he is more formidible a foe if he is larger. Like being a larger more powerful version of Logan.
Horhey
11-17-2006, 11:02 AM
Comics are much different than live action movies. The size ratio of Wolverine and Sabretooth is important in the fact that he is more formidible a foe if he is larger. Like being a larger more powerful version of Logan.
Yea but Wolverine is faster, more agile, and a better skilled fighter. Ever watch any Jet Li movies?
WeaponXProject
11-17-2006, 11:07 AM
Yea, but what does Jet Li have to do with Wolverine. I think I know what you mean cause he is a faster more skilled fighter in all the movies but in this it seems he is not going to be gov't trained until after Sabretooth kills his wife and then after the Weapon X project he'll get trained which means Sabs size and strength will pummel Logan the first time around.
If size doesn't matter than why does Juggy beat the crap out of Logan in X3, same as Sabretooth did in X 1. And Sab beat his butt twice.
Back to the topic though, in looking at that first act I can assume that the time table for this movie is not going to be any where near the 1890's to 1950's. I would suggest it starts in the sixties or seventies before Weapon X.
Horhey
11-17-2006, 11:43 AM
Yea, but what does Jet Li have to do with Wolverine. I think I know what you mean cause he is a faster more skilled fighter in all the movies but in this it seems he is not going to be gov't trained until after Sabretooth kills his wife and then after the Weapon X project he'll get trained which means Sabs size and strength will pummel Logan the first time around.
If size doesn't matter than why does Juggy beat the crap out of Logan in X3, same as Sabretooth did in X 1. And Sab beat his butt twice.
Back to the topic though, in looking at that first act I can assume that the time table for this movie is not going to be any where near the 1890's to 1950's. I would suggest it starts in the sixties or seventies before Weapon X.
Actually in the "Extended Fight Sequence At Jean Grey's House" in X3, Wolverine gets his licks in against Juggernaut. He stabs him through the arm and then through the back of his head at the end of the fight. Juggernaut couldnt move when Wolverine put his claws though his skull.
Wolverine had Sabretooth beet untill Rogue screemed which distracted Logan from finishing him off. Sabretooth through him off of him when he looked in the other direction.
I think its already been established that Logan gets beat by Sabretooth in the beginning of the movie before he gets the Adamantium and all the Weapon X training.
However, if written correctly Wolverine should already be a Samurai, an ex-special forces dude, an ex-CIA agent, and all that other military stuff he did. Hes been a warrior since atleast World War II.
WeaponXProject
11-19-2006, 11:42 PM
The Samurai stuff will not be in there...Hugh said so. I think that means they'll be no reference to that stuff.
Extended scene not in the movie doesn't really count to me.
Seriously....Sabs beat the f out of Logan, which disappointed me. Same with Lady Deathstrike. I hope Wolvy gets his revenge in the end and beats Sabs a$$.
Horhey
11-20-2006, 10:21 AM
The Samurai stuff will not be in there...Hugh said so. I think that means they'll be no reference to that stuff.
Extended scene not in the movie doesn't really count to me.
Seriously....Sabs beat the f out of Logan, which disappointed me. Same with Lady Deathstrike. I hope Wolvy gets his revenge in the end and beats Sabs a$$.
He did have Sabretooth beat in the movie though. Watch it again. The "Extended Scene" will be in the "Directors Cut" though. In X-Men "The Official Game" he kills Deathstrike and supposedley Sabretooth. Doesnt explain how Deathstrike survived the Adamantium thing in X2. The game also introduces Silver Samurai but Wolverine spared his life.
Hugh'sMrs
11-20-2006, 10:51 AM
Benioff is one of the writers who did a hack job on the Ender's Game movie scripts, which was rejected by Warner Bros and according to those that read it, completely ignoring the entire message of the book. Based on that, he didn't seem keen on adapting a novel, he wanted to do his own original take on it. I don't see that as a good sign for Wolverine fans.
The scriptwriting duties for Ender's Game has been turned over to Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris with Benioff producing.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0400403/fullcredits#writers
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