Episode 05 - "Hiros" - Discussion Thread

[phoenixflight]

Episode 5 Highlights:

Matt uses his abilities to help his marriage.
Niki loses another lapse of time.
D.L. has escaped from prison.
Claire tells her father about some of the things she's been through lately. Vegas has more consequences for Hiro.
Peter receives a message.

Please discuss:

[Triadkd]

Looks like ando and hiro are in for a beating. Hope DL's cool and I dont think that shadow guy who attacks claire is sylar.

[fangrl06]

Looks like ando and hiro are in for a beating. Hope DL's cool and I dont think that shadow guy who attacks claire is sylar.
I wonder if he has any cool powers.

[phoenixflight]

I wonder if he has any cool powers.

Who are you referring to, D.L. Hawkins, Niki's husband?! If so, he does. He can phase through objects. I'm hoping they show him escaping prison in a flashback.

[phoenixflight]

In the preview:

Watching Nathan fly away looked so cool. Can't wait to see it in action. Hopefully he is embracing his powers and starting to except what Mohinder and Peter has to say about others possessing powers.

Also, Future Hiro looks so cool. His powers are increasing. Traveling to the past, freezing an entire train (and carrying a weapon and mastering English - who knew!!).

Love this show.

[The Apocalypse]

Wait can that black guy really be Nikki's husband? Or have people already came to this conclusion lol

[StorminNorman]

I wonder what they did to Matt, apparently he is not dead (which is a good thing). :confused:

[pyromaniac]

Re Nikki's husband.

Already has been confirmed.

[SoulManX]

I wonder what they did to Matt, apparently he is not dead (which is a good thing). :confused:

I think the black guy with Claire's dad can supress powers...that is my take on it.

[PLAS]

has anyone been to 9th Wonders? they have some pretty advanced theories there... I mean, some are way out there

[SouLeSS]

D.L. is basically Kitty Pride. Only he's going to be a raging black man, instead of some little teenage girl.

But, he's basically the same.

[darkdaz]

The way hiro looked at the end of this weeks episode looked like he was in some kind of costume. like he was part of a superhero team.

[The Squirrel]

What kind of competiton is going on that we need to create the thread a week before?

Any way...

"Save the cheerleader, save the world."

Sounds cool.

I wonder if that is all future Hiro will tell Peter.

[Mixairian]

It seems the producers have heard our demands and given us what we asked for. When Hiro was first introduced to us, we requird more. Every scene with the adorable and loveable japanese Hero to be just enflamed our desire to see him.

And now, to satisfy the high demand for him they give us Hiros. What is better than one Hiro? Two! ^_^

[ragdus]

Um, you do realize these episodes we've seen were already shot before the premiere even came out right?

[SouLeSS]

The actual title is "Hiro's" not Hiros or Hiros'. Big difference

[Mixairian]

Um, you do realize these episodes we've seen were already shot before the premiere even came out right?
I know. It was a bloody joke.
The actual title is "Hiro's" not Hiros or Hiros'. Big difference
Hiros would mean multiple Hiros. "Look at all the Hiros, there must be at least two of them!"
Hiro's would imply belonging to. "That is Hiro's bad ass katana!"
Hiros' I guess I can describe it as if it's an organization. "This is the Hiros' chronicles."

As for which one it's supposed to be. I don't have a bloody clue. :)

[Abaddon]

I hate some of these promos. "Save the cheerleader, Save the world". :whatever:

[PLAS]

I hate some of these promos. "Save the cheerleader, Save the world". :whatever:
yet, they somehow manage for everything to make sense

[muscaremy]

haha hiro was on a repeat ep of scrubs i tivod the other day

[Abaddon]

yet, they somehow manage for everything to make sense

I don't understand what you mean.:huh:

[SouLeSS]

I know. It was a bloody joke.

Hiros would mean multiple Hiros. "Look at all the Hiros, there must be at least two of them!"
Hiro's would imply belonging to. "That is Hiro's bad ass katana!"
Hiros' I guess I can describe it as if it's an organization. "This is the Hiros' chronicles."

As for which one it's supposed to be. I don't have a bloody clue. :)

Right, I understand that. That's why I said the title is actually "Hiro's" and not Hiros or Hiros'.

[PLAS]

I don't understand what you mean.:huh:
next week's episode you will

[Abaddon]

If I don't, they'll be Hell to pay.:cmad:

[Abaddon]

God, this thread makes me hungry.

[PLAS]

If I don't, they'll be Hell to pay.:cmad:
what are you gonna do about it, huh? punk? :cmad:

[StorminNorman]

I wish we could see a Future Hiro v. Slyar battle - that would be pretty awesome. It wont happen though :(

[Abaddon]

what are you gonna do about it, huh? punk? :cmad:

We'll let evolution decide. :cmad:







Which reminds me, I really hope they go in a different route, then with this mutation thing. That and ridding themselves of all the cliches will bring the show a step above.:up:

[The Squirrel]

What else could the say besides evolution?

The whole "eclispe" thing wasn't even touched on. Just, "Oh look, an eclipse."

[fangrl06]

What else could the say besides evolution?

The whole "eclispe" thing wasn't even touched on. Just, "Oh look an eclipse."
I'm sure it will be though. It probably has something to do with their powers. Otherwise, why would they use it as the "Heroes" symbol?

[Majmun]

When Nathan flies in episode 5, it looks like he is escaping away from those two guys, but I don't think that's what is happening. Those two guys know he can fly, I'm sure, just like they knew the cop can read minds. So, Nathan is probably under mind control from the black dude, and they have him demonstrate his power to see how far along he is. They even mentioned in episode 4 that the heroes were further along than what they thought when the cop was able to read Claire's dad's mind even with the black guy trying to supress him.

Another thing that stood out to me was when they said "Save the cheerleader, save the world." So, apparently the whole world is in danger and not just New York City.

[Mixairian]

Right, I understand that. That's why I said the title is actually "Hiro's" and not Hiros or Hiros'.

But there is actually two of them. Past and Present. Two being the plural would be look at the pair of Hiros. Or would it be Hiros', the rules for names are sketchy, I forget. :)

[Eklypze]

ok one thing ive been wandering is what exactly does "Save the cheerleader, Save the world" mean? is it like saying "in order to save the world you must first save the cheerleader" as in the whole world is depending on her fate, or is it just like first save the cheerleader then save the world??? anyone understand what im saying??

[StorminNorman]

Basically here is the way I see it.

There are 3 groups. The Heroes, Mr. Glasses and Friend and Government, and Sylar (with perhaps a few allies).

Sylar is behind the Nuclear Blast and perhaps manipulating the Goverment agency. Sylar of course wants to destroy all the heroes - so he would want Claire (who has to be one of the more powerful, especially considering her age). The only question is - does he know about her.

The Government/Mr. Glasses of course knows about her already. They (like every government in comic books) are afraid of metahumans. They want to learn as much as they can about them and hope to control them, or use them to benefit "normal" mankind. They of course would find Claire very helpful medically and would want her. If Sylar is manipulating them, perhaps that is the way Sylar plans on getting Claire.

I think Claire is the key to preventing the Nuclear Blast...somehow. (Maybe the Heroes don't save Claire, Mr. Glasses goes nutso and somehow causes the Nov. 8 accident? - I don't know, I am rambling by this point) The Heroes keep her safe, Nov. 8 is avoided. They dont - Nov. 8 bomb happens.

[SouLeSS]

ok one thing ive been wandering is what exactly does "Save the cheerleader, Save the world" mean? is it like saying "in order to save the world you must first save the cheerleader" as in the whole world is depending on her fate, or is it just like first save the cheerleader then save the world??? anyone understand what im saying??

Probably something to do with how shes going to be a catalyst for the whole thing. My theory is that Sylar is going to kill her, and HRG is going to set off the nuke to get rid of Sylar because he killed her little girl.

Save the cheerleader, save the world.

[phoenixflight]

ok one thing ive been wandering is what exactly does "Save the cheerleader, Save the world" mean? is it like saying "in order to save the world you must first save the cheerleader" as in the whole world is depending on her fate, or is it just like first save the cheerleader then save the world??? anyone understand what im saying??

I have a slightly different take on the slogan "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World". I'm thinking that with her 'healing factor/ regeneration/ invulnerability' powers (and Peter's ability to mimic those powers), she would be the one to stop the blast at the detonation point. She can't really die, just reform.

I think the guy chasing her in Isaac's' painting is her father. From there, they discover Mr. Bennet's (Glasses Man) master plan to wipe out NY of its 'Heroes' with an bomb (yes, it's a bad plan, but what psycho villian really thinks through their ideas). By saving her, they save the world.

[SoulManX]

I have a slightly different take on the slogan "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World". I'm thinking that with her 'healing factor/ regeneration/ invulnerability' powers (and Peter's ability to mimic those powers), she would be the one to stop the blast at the detonation point. She can't really die, just reform.

I think the guy chasing her in Isaac's' painting is her father. From there, they discover Mr. Bennet's (Glasses Man) master plan to wipe out NY of its 'Heroes' with an bomb (yes, it's a bad plan, but what psycho villian really thinks through their ideas). By saving her, they save the world.

I agree....

[scififan9009]

This site has the preview for Chapter 5 in a YouTube video at the top:

http://www.superhiro.org

Save the cheerleader, save the world... Also, did anyone notice that Sylar bumped into Mohinder when he was buggin Nathan?? :wow:

[Sub-Zero]

This site has the preview for Chapter 5 in a YouTube video at the top:

http://www.superhiro.org

Save the cheerleader, save the world... Also, did anyone notice that Sylar bumped into Mohinder when he was buggin Nathan?? :wow:


that wasn't sylar. we don't even know what he looks like. it was just some crazy guy. mohinder looks at him because the bodyguards think he's crazy just like the crazy guy.

[gambitfire]

Is the show moving along so that Nov. 8 happens on Nov 8?

*looks at calender*

NVM...


*walks away*

:p

[3 Dev Adam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCiyCFYI0Vs

[Tanin]

http://tv.yahoo.com/feature/fall06/

A few clips of the next episode *spoilers*

[3 Dev Adam]

When Nathan flies in episode 5, it looks like he is escaping away from those two guys, but I don't think that's what is happening. Those two guys know he can fly, I'm sure, just like they knew the cop can read minds. So, Nathan is probably under mind control from the black dude, and they have him demonstrate his power to see how far along he is.

Makes sense. If Token can nullify the Heroes powers, and he was right by Nathan's side, then Nathan wouldn't be unable to do crap.

[phoenixflight]

Makes sense. If Token can nullify the Heroes powers, and he was right by Nathan's side, then Nathan wouldn't be unable to do crap.

Where did you get the name "Token" from? Is that the characters name? OR are you make a stereotypical reference?

Your speculation is based on if the characters powers are to nulify other abilities. I'm thinking his powers is more like neural scrambling, disrupting brain waves, not specifically powers.

[burning-robot]

I dont think he can nulify powers because you can see nathan take off right next to him. I hope he has some kind of Astral projection and/or possession.

[3 Dev Adam]

Where did you get the name "Token" from?
South Park.

Your speculation is based on if the characters powers are to nulify other abilities.
Hence the "IF" on my assumption.

[Fenryr]

It's a little hard to tell what everyone's predictions about saving Claire are, but I'm thinking it might not have to do with her powers, or being necessary to stop the explosion, etc., at all.

Claire's dad has some pretty sinister connections, and if the Powers are going to form a team, she can't be anywhere near him or the others will be in danger. We've already seen what happened with Matt, and it would happen again. I also think she's a second generation hero, and explains why she started off more powerful than the others. She keeps talking about her adopted parents, and I'm starting to believe that we've already met one of them, either Matt or Nathan.

Like a lot of other people, I also think Niki's not one of the "Heroes". Her husband is a criminal, her power causes her to kill people, and she's not been given a very clean track record so far. The two-minute-preview just cemented my concerns with her character.

One last thing, the effects for flight that we've seen so far, and the little clip of Hiro teleporting, are excellent. I was worried there might be hokey dynamic takeoffs and colored energy flares to represent them, but it doesn't look that way.

[-Æ-]

I also think that it doesn't have to deal with Claires powers, but the fact that her adopted dad "Glasses Man" has such a strong connection to her, that he wants to protect her from whatever. Its the classic Father/Daughter scenario. I believe that she may be accidently killed, like either disentergrated, or beheaded to the point where she can't regenerate, which causes her adopted father to go crazy and really go after the heroes full time, thus creating are first super mad villian per say.

[Triadkd]

In the two minute preview it shows claires dad attacking the QB so I guess he finds out about the rape.

[SoulManX]

Come on 9....come on 9.

[Gold Samurai]

just in time for tonights ep the user discoinferno had combined the audio from

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vsk8FqnKobY


and heroes clips to make

http://media.putfile.com/Super-Hiro-Time


Supaaa Hirooo time!....starts now!


btw for those that don't know. In japan they start their sunday 7:30 to 8:30 live action hour with

Super Hero Time....starts now!

[O'Haire]

The opening was great. I wish I could fly. :(

[SoulManX]

Nathan can move...he needs to work on his landing though.

Wonder Hiro still has money from the casino?

[Substance D]

Holy **** This Show Is Goooooooood!

[O'Haire]

The episode is great so far. Show gets better every week.

[dabadguy5937]

holy crap this show jsut gets better and better

[SoulManX]

Ok Im really liking Pete a lot...and Mo needs to wake the hell up and get on the train.

[deathshead2]

So the brother does absorb powers.

[Doomed Hero Rising]

Wait Peter absorbs abilities?

[deathshead2]

yep first he could fly now it seems he can paint the future. But he can only do these things when he is near the person with the power.

[dabadguy5937]

peter is the man idk were this chick is gonna end up is she good or bad

[dabadguy5937]

theres a couple of storylines in this show i could really care less about

[Corinthian™]

Zomg This Is Getting ****ing Awesome!

[SoulManX]

Peter's powers.....
Power mimicry or absorption

Ability to copy or absorb another's powers or skills.

[SoulManX]

Matt seems to be having trouble....

[Corinthian™]

Pete copies powers

[O'Haire]

This episode was insanely awesome.

[dabadguy5937]

holy crap dl has powers

[Corinthian™]

ZOMFG!!!!!

I LOVE THIS SHOW SO BAD!!!!!

:woot:

[SoulManX]

ZOMFG!!!!!

I LOVE THIS SHOW SO BAD!!!!!

:woot:

Cor u said it brother...so do I.

[deathshead2]

Dl can go through walls neat.

[Substance D]

theres a couple of storylines in this show i could really care less about

there's a couple of people in this world i could really care less about. one being you.

[batboy99]

pretty good ep,i liked it

[StorminNorman]

This show is so good it hurts when I am not watching it. :(

[Mixairian]

Waffles.

[SoulManX]

And Brody got mind ****ed....

[rashad]

Great episode! It's exciting to see everyone starting to get connected with each other!

[dabadguy5937]

there's a couple of people in this world i could really care less about. one being you.

woah a tad bit over the top dont ya think

[xwolverine2]

holy ****!..awesomeness!!

i love howit ended!

i got confused for a while because i thought both of the black guys were the same person.....lol, stupid me.

Ali looks like shes gonna kick some serious ass next episode!!!!:eek:!!!

[Upset Spideyfan]

Very cool episode, the highlights were Nathan's flying, it was much more dramatic than I anticipated.

Claire's Dad rocks.

Nice to see Ando finally get his head in the game.

That picture of Sylar over a disemboweled Claire was really chilling. The show's heating up with everyone finally getting together. They need to find Mohinder though.

[Prodigy]

is there a deal we can make with NBC to air new episodes every night of the week until... well until I die?

[Anubis]

Good ep. Nathan's got some real get up and go. Kinda like Northstar. And it looks like that stripper chicks got Super Strength what with the way she was tossing her hubby around in the preview. Man, I love this show.

[Substance D]

nathan's characterization is all over the place. one minute he's an ass, the next he's really nice and outgoing. wtf? he's a cool character and i like the actor that plays him, but he's kind of lopsided.

[O'Haire]

I found it hard to dislike Claire's Dad. He rules in this episode.

[gambitfire]

Waffles.

Yahoo!

[SouLeSS]

So does the other jap guy get powers or is he going to eventually die?

[BlazingBread]

This show is great!


But does anyone have an idea on the age difference of present Hiro from future Hiro. Im guessing around 10+ years considering his english and his accent.

[Amazing Afroman]

nathan's characterization is all over the place. one minute he's an ass, the next he's really nice and outgoing. wtf? he's a cool character and i like the actor that plays him, but he's kind of lopsided.

Yeah...Kinda like a politician!:whatever:

[Gold Samurai]

hiro- car *imitates steering wheel beep beep!


Super Hiro time! starts now!

[gambitfire]

nathan's characterization is all over the place. one minute he's an ass, the next he's really nice and outgoing. wtf? he's a cool character and i like the actor that plays him, but he's kind of lopsided.

Yea i hope they define him more soon, right now he's just kind of two face to me. :(

Although im loving Nicki.

And yes O'Haire, something about Claire's father makes him an evil bad ass. :p

[gambitfire]

Yeah...Kinda like a politician!:whatever:

yea, but I'm not loving that. :p

Eventually I'll love to hate him if they go in that direction. :D

[The Guardian]

AWESOMENESS, PURE AWESOMENESS, THIS SHOW JUST KEEPS SURPRISING ME, I LOVE IT!!! "HIRO" =>:ninja: :D :up:

[-Æ-]

This episode was really good. Im glad they slowed down the pace a bit to go over a vary of what everyone is doing. I swear though you can do like an hour episode on just each one of these characters by themselve for how deep they are.

[Substance D]

dude i can't wait til they have an all out super powered brawl with sylar. it's gonna be awesome. i guess nikki and claire will be the heavy hitters, with hiro and dl playin up defense. damn, this show is awesome. so many possibilities.

[amazingfantasy15]

BlazingBread, IGN did a set visit to Heroes and future Hiro is supposed to be 4-5 years in the future.

Cool episode, wonder is Issac will learn how to paint the future without drugs after seeing Peter do it. Guess we know what the first half of the season plot is Save the Cheerleader, then we'll get Save the World in the second half. I think Nathan's characterization is perfect for the role he's playing, in public he's a nice guy, in private a dick that will try anything to get ahead.

[CAGE]

AWESOMENESS of an ep tonight. This show just keeps gettin' better and better. Love this show. Can't wait to see DL next week. :up:

[Amazing Afroman]

yea, but I'm not loving that. :p

Eventually I'll love to hate him if they go in that direction. :D

I can completely see him possibly going rogue but I think that it really is him just trying to do whatever is avantagious in the moment. I don't think that he's evil but he definitely isn't your uber-good apple pie and milk superhero.

[WildChild]

Heroes is awsome.

[Lando7763]

nathan's characterization is all over the place. one minute he's an ass, the next he's really nice and outgoing. wtf? he's a cool character and i like the actor that plays him, but he's kind of lopsided.

He seems to be a prick when it comes to anything regarding the election, and his brother, i.e., selling out Peter at the rally, trying to pay him off to leave town, because it was bad for the campaign. As far as Niki in Vegas, I don't believe that cheating on your wife makes you Captain A-Hole.

As a matter of fact, one of the web comics, shows Nathan at his heroic best.

[Substance D]

the cop's wife is amazingly hot

[Amazing Afroman]

...I think Nathan's characterization is perfect for the role he's playing, in public he's a nice guy, in private a dick that will try anything to get ahead. exactly.

[CAGE]

BlazingBread, IGN did a set visit to Heroes and future Hiro is supposed to be 4-5 years in the future.

Cool episode, wonder is Issac will learn how to paint the future without drugs after seeing Peter do it. Guess we know what the first half of the season plot is Save the Cheerleader, then we'll get Save the World in the second half. I think Nathan's characterization is perfect for the role he's playing, in public he's a nice guy, in private a dick that will try anything to get ahead.

Thanks man, been wondering what timeline he was coming from. Future Hiro is/was all kinds of badass. Specially with that katana. :up:

Man, Brody got mind wiped, and how the hell did that guy come out of nowhere, when Claire's dad opened the curtain? I thought that Nathan was hilarious as well, when he met Hiro at the waffle house, and then headed back to the Casino. And good to see Issac starting to see things coming together.

[CAGE]

exactly.

Yeah, I agree.

[WildChild]

What an amazing show.Everyweek it just gets better and better.Nathan flying reminded me of Cannonball without the flames,and blew all of the flying effect's on Smallville away.

[Amazing Afroman]

I hope Matt figures out how to control his telepathy soon. Having that happen all the time would just suck.

[rdh007]

I laughed out loud when Nathan gave that cheesy smile to the Asian girl at the hotel while discussing the 2, err, 4 million dollars he's "owed".

[Amazing Afroman]

I laughed out loud when Nathan gave that cheesy smile to the Asian girl at the hotel while discussing the 2, err, 4 million dollars he's "owed". that was priceless

[Farren]

Claire's dad...that was all kinds of twisted awesome.

[Substance D]

the cop and that freaky black spock dude need to have an epic psychic battle

[The Lizard]

Fantastic episode! :up:

This show isn't quite up to the level of Lost yet, but it could get there if we keep getting episodes like that one.

[Substance D]

Fantastic episode! :up:

This show isn't quite up to the level of Lost yet, but it could get there if we keep getting episodes like that one.

this show beats the crap out of lost. it's like seeing a dream come true. who doesn't dream of having superpowers? lost has gone down the drain. heroes reigns supreme. deal.

[gambitfire]

dude i can't wait til they have an all out super powered brawl with sylar. it's gonna be awesome. i guess nikki and claire will be the heavy hitters, with hiro and dl playin up defense. damn, this show is awesome. so many possibilities.

Hiro can take out everyone alone nuff said.

:p

[The Lizard]

this show beats the crap out of lost. it's like seeing a dream come true. who doesn't dream of having superpowers? lost has gone down the drain. heroes reigns supreme. deal.

Thanks for your opinion. Mine happens to be a bit different. We both like the show. No need to get snotty. Deal.

[Substance D]

Hiro can take out everyone alone nuff said.

:p

he has to be careful of he might cause a rip in the space/time continuum! mohinder can talk sylar to death! LOL!

[amazingfantasy15]

One thing that bugged me though is Hiro's sudden grasp of the English language. Has Ando been giving him lessons?

[CAGE]

this show beats the crap out of lost. it's like seeing a dream come true. who doesn't dream of having superpowers? lost has gone down the drain. heroes reigns supreme. deal.

I kinda agree. Heroes is only 5 eps in, and it's kicking ass royally. IMO, it's better than LOST. LOST was great the first two seasons, but now it's just so over ****ing hyped, that I can't stand the new season. With Heroes, it's looking like it has a nice clean plate ahead of itself. I mean, it's the biggest series opener for NBC in FIVE years.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif:up:

[CAGE]

One thing that bugged me though is Hiro's sudden grasp of the English language. Has Ando been giving him lessons?

Yeah he probably has been, but we just didn't see it. Or, Hiro knows a little of English on his own. Enough for him to get around, like he did while talking with Nathan.

[Substance D]

Thanks for your opinion. Mine happens to be a bit different. We both like the show. No need to get snotty. Deal.

dang, sorry. :csad:

[CAGE]

he has to be careful of he might cause a rip in the space/time continuum! mohinder can talk sylar to death! LOL!

When Mo meets Sylar, he's gonna kick his ass by talkin' all smarts to him. :o:up:

[Amazing Afroman]

One thing that bugged me though is Hiro's sudden grasp of the English language. Has Ando been giving him lessons?

It is possible but it would have nice for them to have at least indicated that. Otherwise it was rather jarring.

[gambitfire]

Issac's going to defeat Sylar by painting him to death!!

MWUAHahAHAHAH!!!

[amazingfantasy15]

I kinda agree. Heroes is only 5 eps in, and it's kicking ass royally. IMO, it's better than LOST. LOST was great the first two seasons, but now it's just so over ****ing hyped, that I can't stand the new season. With Heroes, it's looking like it has a nice clean plate ahead of itself. I mean, it's the biggest series opener for NBC in FIVE years.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif:up:

It's not really fair to compare the two. Heroes has 5 eps and Lost 51. Plus, I think Heroes is gonna be more like 24 than Lost, one threat per season. Lost is much bigger, each season building on the previous one.

[Substance D]

When Mo meets Sylar, he's gonna kick his ass by talkin' all smarts to him. :o:up:

ENDLESS EXPOSITION ATTACK GO!

[The Lizard]

dang, sorry. :csad:
no biggie -- I really do love this show. Honestly, Heroes and Lost are the only two big network series I really care about anymore.

Smallville has lost me for good, thanks to the awesomeness of Heroes! :D

[CAGE]

It's not really fair to compare the two. Heroes has 5 eps and Lost 51. Plus, I think Heroes is gonna be more like 24 than Lost, one threat per season. Lost is much bigger, each season building on the previous one.

Probably right. But still, it's my opinion. I like both shows of course, but overall for me it's Heroes that capatalizes. :o

[gambitfire]

no biggie -- I really do love this show. Honestly, Heroes and Lost are the only two big network series I really care about anymore.

Smallville has lost me for good, thanks to the awesomeness of Heroes! :D

and the anoyance that is Lana Lang and Luthor. :p

[CAGE]

ENDLESS EXPOSITION ATTACK GO!

Hiro is going to stop the explosion. Because he's Hiro. :up:

And he wields a katana and likes waffles. :cool:

[Amazing Afroman]

you can do anything with the power of waffles!

[xwolverine2]

ok....i think i love claires dad now....:( i know i know

why is the political guy all nice now?............wtf?

[CAGE]

you can do anything with the power of waffles!

Truer words could've never been said. :up:

[Substance D]

ok....i think i love claires dad now....:( i know i know

why is the political guy all nice now?............wtf?

i would be too if i just spent a passionate night of raunchy love making with ali larter

[xwolverine2]

i would be too if i just spent a passionate night of raunchy love making with ali larter
oh yeah... i forgot about that!

and the wierd guy erased his memory right?

[dabadguy5937]

imagine peter in a room with every1 he'd be unstopable

[Gamma Ray]

This show is more fun than anything else this season.

[Spider-Fan83]

imagine peter in a room with every1 he'd be unstopable
Interesting point, I wonder how may powers he can take at one time, also, another thought, why when peter took the artist ability (to see the future), was he able to see it so easy without being stoned

[Tyrinus]

Interesting point, I wonder how may powers he can take at one time, also, another thought, why when peter took the artist ability (to see the future), was he able to see it so easy without being stoned

It's probably just a case of his powers originally manifesting while he was high, so he has it in his head that he has to be high to use them.

And who else thinks that Hiro's friend is just gonna end up fodder eventually?

[xwolverine2]

And who else thinks that Hiro's friend is just gonna end up fodder eventually?
what do you mean?

[Gold Samurai]

And who else thinks that Hiro's friend is just gonna end up fodder eventually?

that picture issac drew had hiro and ando with something behind in blood

i'd hate for ando to die to make hiro lose his geekiness. Hiro is the only one who hasn't had a traumatic thing happen.....yet

[Triadkd]

Good episode but something confused me. In the last episode issac drew a picture of claire being attacked by the uluru monster. Now it seems like sylar is the one who attacks her.

[cerealkiller182]

Does anyone still think Claire's dad is the bad guy? I think he is a big red herring.

[Substance D]

Does anyone still think Claire's dad is the bad guy? I think he is a big red herring.

me too, or he's a lesser evil and not the main threat.

[Hiruu]

Wait Peter absorbs abilities?

Mimic is probably a better description, since he doesn't have an adverse effect on them.

[xwolverine2]

i'd hate for ando to die to make hiro lose his geekiness. Hiro is the only one who hasn't had a traumatic thing happen.....yet
thats what i think might happen......


man... i love how this show could turn in a million directions!:woot:

[Hiruu]

WOW...this show is sooo darn good! I'm just stunned as to how good it's gotten over the weeks...WOW...okay enof gushing over it. Every character is developing nicely at this point, and that's a real surprise for a ensemble cast...I like them all!

- The Flight scene was awesome, and I'm curious to see the extend of Nathan's powers...evidently, he can do machspeed, and he must generate some kinda field to protect himself and immediate objects, since his clothes didn't tear off, plus his landed rough, but didn't break ever bone in his body or scorch his skin.

- Peter and Issac...cool, as Peter finally is beginning to understand his ability. I think he's a proximity mimic, since so it's a matter of how long does he retain the ability, and is it up to the origin's power level...it's going to interesting when he meets brother from another planet.

- Hiro....well he's just being Hiro. I wondering as to the range of Hiro's ability. He can bend Time-space, but how selective is he with that ability? The future Hiro evidently can precisely control it, but he also stated it was VERY VERY risky for him to even be there. Hmmmm....

- Micah evidently has some kinda ability, so it's going to be interesting to see what it is. Nikki is the hulk-lite, as next week preview looks like DL is going to feel the wrath of a woman scorned. His ability of phasing is cool as well, but I'm wondering if he can do an asborbing man and take the properties of those objects he comes into contact with, or is it like that guy on Mutant X, who could increase and decrease his density?

Man-o-man...too bad it's another WHOLE week for the next episode.

[Tyrinus]

Didn't the "coming weeks" preview have Nathan saying something along the lines of "how fast do you think we can fly together?"

I wonder if that means Peter can enhance the powers of the others as well?

[sc12een17am3]

o wow awesome episode

so it does seem that Nikis real power is super Strength. did u see her hit her husband. @_@

im hoping since peter was able to use the premonition without drugs he could sorta "teach" isaac how to concentrate and not rely on drugs to get them

and it seems we get to learn more about that mysterious symbol next episode, cant wait

[xwolverine2]

so it does seem that Nikis real power is super Strength. did u see her hit her husband. @_@

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:wow: :wow: :wow:

[Kingfish]

either ando is gonna die a horrible death that will probaly be hiros fault in some way,

or hes the new rick jones

[Spyda-Man]

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:wow: :wow: :wow:


u seriously didnt know that Niki had superstrength??
i thought everyone knew that since the 1st ep when she ripped dude in half

[muscaremy]

dont mean to be an ass...but ive stated many times that peter is a mimic....we got this info from a very spoilery tv guide article...seems like no one reads anymore.....as for next week... looks very interesting just like every other ep.

[RockSP]

nathan's characterization is all over the place. one minute he's an ass, the next he's really nice and outgoing. wtf? he's a cool character and i like the actor that plays him, but he's kind of lopsided.

Well, people are "lopsided" in real life...

But yeah it would have made more sense if after seeing Nathan fly Hiro offered him the use of his cell phone and then bought him the shirt and coffee...after all, who has money in their pajamas? Then Nathan giving Hiro a ride would have been more believable.

[NoTheNSpiderMan]

oh yeah, i believe in one of the paintings, peter is looking at a bunch of locker room doors, as if it's coming at him, or away from him. i believe that he will confront sylar, and will absorb sylar's power, and they will have a locker room epic battle with towel whipping galore =)

[3 Dev Adam]

Mama pajama, Episode 5 is already being torrentized... 266000 SEEDERS!

[Wolfwood]

Nathan's flight looked pretty damn good, just the way he took off and had that little "poof" gave me tingles :D.

Also, Claire's dad was pretty badass. I thought for sure he was going to put a bullet in the kid, but what he did was way better.

[RockSP]

Does anyone still think Claire's dad is the bad guy? I think he is a big red herring.

He may not be THE bad guy but he's obvioulsy A badguy. Kidnapping the cop and wiping his memory; kidnapping Nathan at gunpoint...

[NoTheNSpiderMan]

He may not be THE bad guy but he's obvioulsy A badguy. Kidnapping the cop and wiping his memory; kidnapping Nathan at gunpoint...

don't forget, breaking and entering at mohinder's place. and the worst crime of all, being creepy.

[xwolverine2]

u seriously didnt know that Niki had superstrength??
i thought everyone knew that since the 1st ep when she ripped dude in half
NOPE.... i figured her for just a crazy whore.

but dam....... she is going to the top!

seems like no one reads anymore
excuse me for not wanting to spoil everything...

[primemover]

Question about Hiro and Peter and the scene in the train with the future Hiro, do you think Hiro has the ability to drag anybody into his space/time manipulations, or could he only do that to Peter because of his latent mimicking abilities?

The latter would make sense of him going to Peter and not Mohinder or any others.

[Majmun]

Good episode but something confused me. In the last episode issac drew a picture of claire being attacked by the uluru monster. Now it seems like sylar is the one who attacks her.That confused me too. I even made a thread asking who the guy with four arms is, but now the painting looks different.

[Upset Spideyfan]

Nathan's flight looked pretty damn good, just the way he took off and had that little "poof" gave me tingles :D.

Also, Claire's dad was pretty badass. I thought for sure he was going to put a bullet in the kid, but what he did was way better.


Definitely. He basically "killed" the jock for all intents and purposes without ever laying a finger on him. I just loved him in that scene.

[AcidTWister]

So I guess the question is:

What do you get when you mix SheHulk with Kitty Pryde?

So far he's just a "boy genius".

I can't wait to see everybody come together. NBC needs to start checking on their writers though.... so far there's quite a few inconsistancies between the show and the graphic novels on the website.

[AcidTWister]

Question about Hiro and Peter and the scene in the train with the future Hiro, do you think Hiro has the ability to drag anybody into his space/time manipulations, or could he only do that to Peter because of his latent mimicking abilities?

The latter would make sense of him going to Peter and not Mohinder or any others.

Peter's the only one in New York right now that's willing to answer Isaac's phone, and actually believe a space-time ninja when he says he's from the future.

[-Æ-]

Peter's the only one in New York right now that's willing to answer Isaac's phone, and actually believe a space-time ninja when he says he's from the future.


Hell if Hiro did that to me I would of believed him too.

[X-Ray]

Finally watched it this morning. And man do these episodes just keep better & better.

-Nathan flying was nice. At first it looks him & black dude are about to throw it down with the stances they were taking. Then boom! Nathan takes off leaving the 2 eating dust. :word:

-Future Hiro. Was that it ? Damn I hope we see more of him down the road. From the way he was talking. I guess he came back on his own will and not on behalf of someone else. Like an order or mission. I'm guessing there's a chance that just like Trunks from DBZ with the whole timeline ****. That everyone is dead and Hiro is the only one left. I kinda got a feeling from future Hiro that Pete is defitnitly dead. He probably died from a big battle where he was the only amongst the group that had a chance to win against whomever the villian is.

-Ando. That's funny how he just walks into the house. Looking like a tired dad that just got off of work. "Honey I'm h .... oh **** !!!!"

-That scene with Pete leeching off of Issac's skills was tight. It can serve as an wake-up call to Isacc that you don't need to get high silly. :oldrazz: The painting was scary though. Sylar standing over Claire's corpse. Which looked like is missing more that just the top of it's head. :csad: :cmad:

-So the raping QB is still alive huh ? Just a damn shame :cmad: Loved what Claire's father did to him. Personally I would've gone with the bullet to the dome. But I guess wiping the kid's entire memory could work too.

Preview to next week's episode ...

Did I see right ? Did that bad inner self of Niki come out the mirror and tell her to do as she says ? :huh: Before kicking the **** out of her ex-husband.

[ragdus]

Yeah. No matter how skeptical I am as an everyday human, if all of a sudden everyone on the subway freezes and time stands still, I'd find anything said by the one human not effected to be pretty believable.

[kane9321]

yeah peter is snyc
maybe claire's dad isnt such a bad guy,well..he could have killed mr.quaterback but instead wiped his memories?.He aslo could have killed matt...but he didnt

[ragdus]

If he is bad he's at least got a little conscience in him

[ragdus]

My guess is that he started out a bad guy, maybe even a guy tasked with eliminating supers in one way or another... but now that he knows his daughter is one he may be undergoing a change of heart.

[chosen1]

So peter is like rogue?????

[SoulManX]

Maybe Claire's dad is looking for Sylar...hence kidnapping them and probing them.

[ragdus]

No, peter is not like rogue. rogue steals powers. there is no evidence to suggest Peter does anything of the sort

[kane9321]

So peter is like rogue?????

Not exactly,peter is like the mutant from generation x named (sync),who was badass by the way

ahh the power of ...waffles

nathan reminded me of "cannonball"...just me...ok:csad:

I really dont give a crap about matt and his "so hot sexy wife/marriage problems". I just dont:(

Uh, I'd be a little more unerved, if a total stranger just knew where i lived and showed up at my backdoor ..niki

D.L is a "Kitty Pryde" type...crap, i hate kitty pride,but what can you do?

[PLAS]

My guess is that he started out a bad guy, maybe even a guy tasked with eliminating supers in one way or another... but now that he knows his daughter is one he may be undergoing a change of heart.
no, he's neither, he was just being an upset father confronting the guy who tried to rape his daughter

I have daughters myself and believe me you, he did what any angry, yet responsible parent would do, if he had access to a mind wipping mutant

each episode keeps getting better and better

[Enzyme]

Well, this wasn't a good episode, but it wasn't as bad as it's been. My stance remains.

[Armand Z Trip]

Great episode. Hiro and Petrelli together was hilarious. When Nathan flew and did the Superman Returns circle of dust when he broke the sound barrier - priceless.

Cruised around on the net and found some stuff.

The song Matt played for his wife is the old standard I'm Confessin' (that I love you), I couldn't tell whose version it was. The song used for the 2 minute promo was Together by Krystal Meyers from the album Dying for a Heart. It's on itunes.

Executive producer / director Allan Arkush is the only director to have directed Frank Sinatra AND Joey Ramone.



Wikipedia has a good breakdown of the symbol

A frequently appearing symbol linked to the new heroes strongly resembles a stylized RNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA) molecule. This symbol has appeared numerous times and is frequently in some way related to a hero:

In the swimming pool at a double homicide crime scene in which Matt Parkman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Parkman) was involved.
As a recurring shape shown scrolling across a laptop screen in a genetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic) profiling program created by Chandra Suresh.
On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Petrelli).
Frequently painted by Isaac Mendez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mendez).
On a post-it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-it) note on the map in Mohinder Suresh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohinder_Suresh)'s apartment.
Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_Bennet).
Written on pictures in Sylar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylar)'s apartment.
As a tattoo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoo) on the shoulder of Niki Sanders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niki_Sanders)' alternate personality.
Engraved on the hilt of Future Hiro's katana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana).
Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book.
Printed on the upper left corner of the 14th issue of '9th Wonders comic book, written by Isaac Mendez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mendez) (The 13th issue that Micah was reading did not have the symbol).
A necklace around Mr. Bennet's special assistant's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-lead_characters_in_Heroes#mysterious_man) neck.
Wikipedia also has the best super power description I have ever read - Heroin-induced precognition.

[dabadguy5937]

It's probably just a case of his powers originally manifesting while he was high, so he has it in his head that he has to be high to use them.

i think the same, coming from some1 who used to be addicted to extacy in high school at times i could only be happy when i was on it and it seems like sylar will get to him eventually and take out his brains

[dabadguy5937]

Great episode. Hiro and Petrelli together was hilarious. When Nathan flew and did the Superman Returns circle of dust when he broke the sound barrier - priceless.

Cruised around on the net and found some stuff.

The song Matt played for his wife is the old standard I'm Confessin' (that I love you), I couldn't tell whose version it was. The song used for the 2 minute promo was Together by Krystal Meyers from the album Dying for a Heart. It's on itunes.

Executive producer / director Allan Arkush is the only director to have directed Frank Sinatra AND Joey Ramone.



Wikipedia has a good breakdown of the symbol

A frequently appearing symbol linked to the new heroes strongly resembles a stylized RNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA) molecule. This symbol has appeared numerous times and is frequently in some way related to a hero:

In the swimming pool at a double homicide crime scene in which Matt Parkman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Parkman) was involved.
As a recurring shape shown scrolling across a laptop screen in a genetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic) profiling program created by Chandra Suresh.
On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Petrelli).
Frequently painted by Isaac Mendez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mendez).
On a post-it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-it) note on the map in Mohinder Suresh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohinder_Suresh)'s apartment.
Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_Bennet).
Written on pictures in Sylar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylar)'s apartment.
As a tattoo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoo) on the shoulder of Niki Sanders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niki_Sanders)' alternate personality.
Engraved on the hilt of Future Hiro's katana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana).
Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book.
Printed on the upper left corner of the 14th issue of '9th Wonders comic book, written by Isaac Mendez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mendez) (The 13th issue that Micah was reading did not have the symbol).
A necklace around Mr. Bennet's special assistant's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-lead_characters_in_Heroes#mysterious_man) neck.Wikipedia also has the best super power description I have ever read - Heroin-induced precognition.

i wanna watch all the episodes again i've seen like 2 or 3 times i thought it just had something to do with clairs fathers people like nikki was involved with the black guy but if its all those places its probably has some crazy significance

[Knives122]

No, peter is not like rogue. rogue steals powers. there is no evidence to suggest Peter does anything of the sort

Sylar may be like Rogue though(taking peoples brains and having what seems to be a lot of powers). And from what peter finished in the picture, Sylar will be killing Claire, taking her powers then blowing up NY.

[AtrophyG4]

It's probably just a case of his powers originally manifesting while he was high, so he has it in his head that he has to be high to use them.

I agree. He is relating the preminitions to his being high, but now that he has seen Peter do it without being high, I think he will seek help. Also, in the two minute preview posted in another thread, HRG comes to see him in some sort of hospital enviroment, which could be a rehab center.

[terarist]

Sylar may be like Rogue though(taking peoples brains and having what seems to be a lot of powers). And from what peter finished in the picture, Sylar will be killing Claire, taking her powers then blowing up NY.

Isn't it interesting, that of all the characters we've been introduced to, only Sylar has exhibited multiple abilities, both explicitly, and implied.
He's shown us:
Flight (could also be telekenesis)
Telepathy (with the gun and the agent)
Telekenesis, or super strength (person posted to railing in house)
Mutant detection? (akin to Callisto, of the morlocks)
And some form of invulnerability (bullets falling to floor?)
It's strange that he's the only character with multiple powers. It's strange that he has a predilection for removing the skull cap, and taking the brain. His references to "hunger" are also strange. I would wager that Sylar is something akin to Nathan's brother's power. Though less of a Mimic, and more of a Rogue in the Ms Marvel way. What if Sylar is simply amassing power, by stealing the powers of other mutants? His hunger simply for power.
In that light, saving the cheerleader could actually save the world. If he were able to acquire her regenerative abilities, along with the abilities he's already acquired, he could be nigh on impossible to stop. A virtual superman.

[AnimeJune]

Nathan's flight looked pretty damn good, just the way he took off and had that little "poof" gave me tingles :D.

Also, Claire's dad was pretty badass. I thought for sure he was going to put a bullet in the kid, but what he did was way better.That made the episode for me - Nathan is HAWT. That whole scene where he manipulates the woman into giving him $4 million dollars, followed by that wicked grin of his, was fantastic.

And I must say, I have not found a reason to dislike Daddy Glasses. Opening a can of psychic-amnesia-whoopass on Brody was classic.

Plus, I like Claire again! She admitted what she did was wrong, she even apologized for it (although I think this was a little much, it went a long way to redeeming her in my eyes), but she told her dad the truth. AWESOME!

I'm actually beginning to think that Claire might be a weapon to be specifically used against Sylar, and maybe that's why Daddy Glasses adopted her in the first place.

[PLAS]

That made the episode for me - Nathan is HAWT. That whole scene where he manipulates the woman into giving him $4 million dollars, followed by that wicked grin of his, was fantastic.

And I must say, I have not found a reason to dislike Daddy Glasses. Opening a can of psychic-amnesia-whoopass on Brody was classic.

Plus, I like Claire again! She admitted what she did was wrong, she even apologized for it (although I think this was a little much, it went a long way to redeeming her in my eyes), but she told her dad the truth. AWESOME!

I'm actually beginning to think that Claire might be a weapon to be specifically used against Sylar, and maybe that's why Daddy Glasses adopted her in the first place.
it seems I'm not the only one who thinks there's much more to Claire's dad than just being "evil" and whatnot

his scene with Brody was one of the best in the episode, even better than the Future Hiro scene

[Wolfwood]

it seems I'm not the only one who thinks there's much more to Claire's dad than just being "evil" and whatnot

his scene with Brody was one of the best in the episode, even better than the Future Hiro scene

I think there's more to him too, and really what has he done to earn the title of being evil? No one has been hurt, he's only really been gathering information.

[Upset Spideyfan]

He'll probably end up being a sort of the means justify the ends type of character. Good intention but evil methods.

[Hiro]

Great episode. The Peter/Isaac scenes gave me goosebumps. Terrific music and a real feeling of dread.

Nathan calmly asserting he's gonna kill bad dad and sidekick then zooming off - the badass congressman of all time.

Glad Hiro and Ando are back together. Now it looks like there going to be meeting Peter and Isaac.

Peter's mimic power seems to have some staying power. He drew the future stick drawing quite a while after being in contact with Isaac.

No Simone or short haired neighbour in this one.

[Amazing Afroman]

...No Simone or short haired neighbour in this one.

Good. That short haired neighbor is annoying. The preview showed her with Mr. Bennet later in the season. Hopefully she'll become more interesting.

[Logan Creed]

Isn't it interesting, that of all the characters we've been introduced to, only Sylar has exhibited multiple abilities, both explicitly, and implied.
He's shown us:
Flight (could also be telekenesis)
Telepathy (with the gun and the agent)
Telekenesis, or super strength (person posted to railing in house)
Mutant detection? (akin to Callisto, of the morlocks)
And some form of invulnerability (bullets falling to floor?)
It's strange that he's the only character with multiple powers. It's strange that he has a predilection for removing the skull cap, and taking the brain. His references to "hunger" are also strange. I would wager that Sylar is something akin to Nathan's brother's power. Though less of a Mimic, and more of a Rogue in the Ms Marvel way. What if Sylar is simply amassing power, by stealing the powers of other mutants? His hunger simply for power.
In that light, saving the cheerleader could actually save the world. If he were able to acquire her regenerative abilities, along with the abilities he's already acquired, he could be nigh on impossible to stop. A virtual superman.

All of these could be a form of telekenesis. The mutant detection thing was done by Mohinder's father as well, who most likely doesn't have powers at all.

[PLAS]

All of these could be a form of telekenesis. The mutant detection thing was done by Mohinder's father as well, who most likely doesn't have powers at all.
maybe he's also familiar with Chandra Suresh's work

[Fanticon]

I just wanna say 2 things...
1. I knew Hiro itentionally didn't stop time to get himself and Ando out of trouble from last weeks ep because he wanted to show Ando the consequences of their actions for exploiting his power to cheat at the poker tables. I had mentioned this last week somewhere just to put all that to rest.
2. Nathan flying....that sh** gave me goosebumps...especially since before he flew away...he said "i've seen your faces, I'll come back for you" sounds like a threat! Speaking of his take-off...how bout that landing?! Great special effects...and a great moment between Hiro and Nathan.

[Logan Creed]

maybe he's also familiar with Chandra Suresh's work
He is. Remember the phone message Mohinder found on his father's answering machine from Sylar in the first or second episode? His father apparently was working with him, or trying to figure out his powers.

If I remember correctly, Sylar blames Mohinder's father for making him the way he is in the message.

I'm pretty sure Mohinder found one of his father's books in Sylar's apartment, too.

[Fanticon]

anyone have a smally video clip of Nathans flight or landing?

[Gold Samurai]

ratings just keep getting better and better

Mediaweek Comparisons:
First Week: 9.9/14 in the overnights (#1 overall), 14.29 million viewers (#1) and a 5.9/14 among adults 18-49 (#1)

Second Week: 9.4/14 in the overnights (#2), 12.57 million viewers (#2) and a first-place 5.3/13 among adults 18-49

Third Week: 9.2/13 in the overnights (#2), 13.31 million viewers (#2) and a first-place 5.9/14 among adults 18-49.

Fourth Week: (9.1/13) and total viewers (13.07 million), and a solid No. 1 among adults 18-49 (5.7/13)

Fifth Week:Overnights: #2, 9.5/14; Viewers: #1 overall, 14.27 million; A18-49: #1, 6.2/15

[PLAS]

ratings just keep getting better and better
not to mention those of us who watch it abroad on premiere night

[Iron Fist]

^ Soooo cool!

And here's what SHH! reported.

Heroes Delivers Best Ratings to Date
Source: Variety October 24, 2006

Variety reports that NBC's Heroes delivered its best ratings to date on Monday night:

According to preliminary nationals from Nielsen, "Heroes" (6.2 rating/15 share in adults 18-49, 14.3 million viewers overall) was up nearly 10% week to week to log the highest regular-slot 18-49 score for a first-year drama in the past two seasons. It was up a big 55% over NBC's non-sports average in the timeslot last season.

In related news, the Hollywood trade paper says that Jack Coleman, who plays the hit drama's mysterious Mr. Bennet, has been made a series regular. He'll join the series full time in its 11th episode.

Coleman plays the father of Claire Bennet (Hayden Panettiere), the cheerleader at the center of the show's current "Save the Cheerleader" story arc.

The actor's character is also known as "H.R.G." - short for "Horn Rimmed Glasses," a strange figure who is seen kidnapping people (including Greg Grunberg's character, Matt Parkman) and experimenting on them.

So Mr. Bennet will play more than his part.

[The Squirrel]

Great episode!

Loved Hiro watching Nathan fly.

Loved Nathan breaking the sound barrier.

[Rong]

anyone have a smally video clip of Nathans flight or landing?

You can find the whole episode here

http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/?show=heroes

His flight is in part 1, landing at the end of part 2. The landing was my favorite part, kept the flight (if you'll forgive the pun) grounded. Skiiiiiid ow!

[Iron Fist]

Edit

[Iron Fist]

Nathan was all kinds of awesomeness.

[Hiruu]

Not exactly,peter is like the mutant from generation x named (sync),who was badass by the way

ahh the power of ...waffles

nathan reminded me of "cannonball"...just me...ok:csad:

I really dont give a crap about matt and his "so hot sexy wife/marriage problems". I just dont:(

Uh, I'd be a little more unerved, if a total stranger just knew where i lived and showed up at my backdoor ..niki

D.L is a "Kitty Pryde" type...crap, i hate kitty pride,but what can you do?

There's acutally a Marvel character call Mimic - "He can copy the powers of other mutants around him. This ability is limited to five powers at a time, and at only half the potency of the original possessor of that power. Mimic is currently using the powers of Cyclops, Colossus, Northstar, Wolverine, and the Beast. He also has some residual telepathy from when he mimicked the abilities of Jean Grey."

[blksuperman2]

Awesome episode. I like how everything is coming together. I really could care less about the cop who can read minds. He's the only character that seems removed from the others.

[Hiruu]

Sylar may be like Rogue though(taking peoples brains and having what seems to be a lot of powers). And from what peter finished in the picture, Sylar will be killing Claire, taking her powers then blowing up NY.

Sylar is the antithesis of Peter...whereas Peter can mimic other's ability for a short period, and Sylar "steals" their ability by "eating" their brains, and permanently acquiring the abilities, thus making him stronger. The danger of him getting Claire's ability is that he will be able to re-gen, and with all his stolen powers, he would be a god. It's going to be interesting if common knowledge of these individuals becomes common knowledge or not. As for Nathan...the guy doesn't add up at this point. Here's the thing...HE CAN FLY SUPERSONIC, and he's got a ego the size of the sun...he just seems a bit non-chalant about his ability...A flying freak would wield far more power than a simple congressman...imho.

[PLAS]

Awesome episode. I like how everything is coming together. I really could care less about the cop who can read minds. He's the only character that seems removed from the others.
interestingly enough ;)

[PLAS]

Sylar is the antithesis of Peter...whereas Peter can mimic other's ability for a short period, and Sylar "steals" their ability by "eating" their brains, and permanently acquiring the abilities, thus making him stronger. The danger of him getting Claire's ability is that he will be able to re-gen, and with all his stolen powers, he would be a god. It's going to be interesting if common knowledge of these individuals becomes common knowledge or not. As for Nathan...the guy doesn't add up at this point. Here's the thing...HE CAN FLY SUPERSONIC, and he's got a ego the size of the sun...he just seems a bit non-chalant about his ability...A flying freak would wield far more power than a simple congressman...imho.
unless you're a congressman who wants to make even bigger impacts than his father before him

besides, we don't know a lot about Nathan yet

[Abaddon]

next week's episode you will


Joo got sum 'splainin to do!:cmad:

[PLAS]

Joo got sum 'splainin to do!:cmad:
what? you didn't get it?

*scofffs*

[Booznian]

I feel so bad for the Cop. Man all the people thinking he would hold up the store.

Nathan=My new favorite character, then comes Peter, then Hiro.

LOL the other asian guy at Nikis house. OMFG amazing.

I wonder what "scar" Peter gets.

[terarist]

unless you're a congressman who wants to make even bigger impacts than his father before him

besides, we don't know a lot about Nathan yet

has anyone here read Deus Ex Machina? The whole Nathan plotline almost seems to echo a lot of themes that are covered there.

[The Apocalypse]

I feel so bad for the Cop. Man all the people thinking he would hold up the store.

Nathan=My new favorite character, then comes Peter, then Hiro.

LOL the other asian guy at Nikis house. OMFG amazing.

I wonder what "scar" Peter gets.

Im going to take a wild guess and say that the thing with four arms going after Claire like cuts him or something. One problem with the ep though. Why doesn't anyone question why Claire heels up so quick?

[batnkevlar]

I can't wait until the episode in the future where Hiro goes BACK in time to talk to Peter...

[Triadkd]

I dont think peter will get a scar if they change the future.

[Substance D]

Im going to take a wild guess and say that the thing with four arms going after Claire like cuts him or something. One problem with the ep though. Why doesn't anyone question why Claire heels up so quick?

her dad using tuvak to mindwipe everybody and cover it up.

[Dread]

Just caught the episode on NBC.com (where it seemed to lag like crazy and was chopped into 6 parts, all of which starting with the same damned car commercial). I'm not sure why NBC is offering the episodes of a hot show for free a day later on their official website; logic would state that it would effect TV ratings if fans knew they could just watch it any time after Monday on the website. But fortunately TV viewers rarely show any logic as ratings seem to be up 10% from there already healthy numbers. HEROES is a hit. Perhaps the "official" online offerings are done deliberately so that "unofficial" DL's like BitTorrent and especially YouTube don't take a bite. And also probably to maintain the buzz.

So, is the show that Jay Leno just described as, "The X-Men crossed with the X-Men" still hot by episode #5?

For me, yes.

Sure, HEROES isn't perfect. It's full of generic TV stereotypes and some plot issues if you want to go looking for them, but as a whole for me it manages to hook you along without revealing too much, but each episode at least feels like something worthwhile is accomplished; some serials can't balence between "suspenceful leading" and "decompressed plodding". Hell, a lot of comics can't manage that.

The episode gets off with a bang when Peter meets "Future Hiro", who, like Trunks, is cooler in the future than he is in the present, who decides to risk shattering the time continuum to give Peter some "plot device" clues to help him along. Then Nathan is dragged out from his night with "Were-Nikki" by Mr. Bennet and his apparently psychic (and speachless) black minion, when he is surprisingly able to punch free and then fly off...at seemingly sonic speeds. Matt, who was "wiped clean" by Mr. Bennet's helper after his fight with Syler, returns home to his wife with no memory of the past day, but using his telepathy to read all her wants and fulfll them to the letter; I can imagine every wife in the audience now wants a psychic husband with a pension. ;) Matt leaves to get ice-cream after a "reconcile", only to use his powers to dissuade a gunman from robbing the store, before passing out from "overload" after he is confused for the robber himself. Claire tells her scary father about her incident, after which Bennet has his man-slave (what? That's what the guy is! Toldja about stereotypes) render the jock an amnesiac. Mohinder doesn't belive Peter's story, but Peter investigates the lead anyway, meeting up with Isaac and "copying" his power (without the use of heroin, natch) to finish one of his paintings which seems to fortell Claire's death at the hands of Syler. Nikki goes about her usual schtick and finds out her crook husband D.L. has escaped prison. Hiro and his buddy split up, with Hiro getting to meet Nathan while the latter has a run in with the cops protecting Nikki. At the end, Peter is there to intercept one of Hiro's calls to Isaac to deliver a message. And Nathan is told by Nikki of the mobster's plan to bankroll and then blackmail them, and uses that to his advantage to get more money; seemingly not caring about becoming a "bought" Congressman.

Oh, and Peter's eyes turn all white like CHILDREN OF THE CORN when he uses Isaac's "Future-Paint" power.

Considering that flight by itself is often depicted as rather useless in comic books (hence why Angel usually has stunk without metal wings), HEROES manages to make it look quite cool with their first opening scenes, which is a worthy effort. Peter being an "omni-power" works well for the plot (as that power often does), and the theory that Syler may be simular is also a good one; he obviously will have to be powerful enough to fight many "heroes" at once. Out of all of them I still don't care much for Nikki and Claire, but I don't hate them and their storylines are improving. Out of all of them, Nathan still seems like the one who is least "heroic" in that pure, noble sense. He's more interested in his own ambition and interests while the others are either confused (Claire, originally Peter), eager to do something positive (Matt, Hiro, Peter, Isaac), or want to be positive but had to work out of manipulation, which is Nikki. While the female characters of HEROES have gotten the more "physical" powers classically given to male characters (regeneration, an enhanced "alter ego"), the male characters are still more assertive in their storylines, as Nikki & Claire are mostly in "reaction" mode.

The "save the cheerleader, save the world" bit was a little heavy handed thanks to the promos, but that's a minor quibble. I can see that with the characters starting to intertwine and mobilize, their stories won't be as fragmented, which is good. Hopefully the season finale has a payoff and doesn't just rely on endless cliffhangers. But that's a few weeks away.

[sc12een17am3]

Why doesn't anyone question why Claire heels up so quick?

maybe the Dad's assistant is taking out that memory out of the doctors minds? since he already knew she has powers due to the tape. could be a possiblity

[AnimeJune]

maybe the Dad's assistant is taking out that memory out of the doctors minds? since he already knew she has powers due to the tape. could be a possiblityOoh, interesting point.

I'm also interested to see what happens to Brody now that he's been "hollowed out".

[3 Dev Adam]

I wonder what "scar" Peter gets.

It must be in the face. Maybe he tries to fly without having his brother nearby.

[StorminNorman]

I dont think we will see much of Brody - he is no longer Brody, he is an empty shell. I am wondering what happened to Matt though, he is perfectly normal now...how does that happen?

[3 Dev Adam]

He's a Heroe. Brody is not.

[burning-robot]

Hollow-man must be able to control how much he hollows out a person. For Matt it was 24 hrs for brody it was years.

[imdaly]

Something I didn't see mentioned yet...

When Mr. Mean-Dad and Mr. You-Can't-Use-Your-Powers-Around-Me were about to tackle Nathan again, I was thinking to myself "Ohhh!! He's gonna fly away!!"

"But wait! He won't be able to use his powers with Mr. YCUYP there..."

and then ZOOM!! Off goes Nathan.

Which makes me think...how long has Nathan been doing this? He's apparently much farther along with learning to control and focus his ability if he can use it with Mr. YCUYP there...



Here's another strange thought.....Could Ando be Sylar??

Either way, I have a feeling SOMETHING wrong is going to happen to Ando that makes Hiro go from Happy-Go-Lucky to what he was in the future. Future Hiro's been though some #$@*.


This show is amazing.

[Tyrinus]

Mr. You-Can't-Use-Your-Powers-Around-Me

I can only recall him preventing Matt from reading his mind. That doesn't mean he can supress everyone's power, just that he can do mental blocks. Was there a time he prevented someone else's power I'm forgetting??

[3 Dev Adam]

Was there a time he prevented someone else's power I'm forgetting??

No.

[imdaly]

I can only recall him preventing Matt from reading his mind. That doesn't mean he can supress everyone's power, just that he can do mental blocks. Was there a time he prevented someone else's power I'm forgetting??

Hmm...you're probably right.


I guess I always just saw him as more of a power-blocker than a mental-blocker...but I suppose mental-blocker works more hand-in-hand with his memory-wiping power.

[Tyrinus]

I want to know if Peter can take on multiple powers at once, or if he can just manage to mimic one at a time.

[SLYspyder]

This show is on the top of my list now, it's removed Lost and Smallville from their top spot.

I lol'ed as sylar moved back the curtain, I just KNEW that guy would be there because of what he said to brody. that was a great scene.

that cop is really making me want to be telepathic. Finally, someone real who has that power and does things a human being would with it. But I think when his wife finds out, she'll be really pissed about him "invading" her privacy, but I don't think she should be.

How freaking awesome was that scene when Peter started drawing?! The way they built it up was perfect, with him starring at the picture, just wishing it could be completed. and the effects, they really put us in his seat.

At the end, I was so glad Hiro finally got through, and when he said his name "Hiro" (Peter already met his future counterpart), I knew the connection was complete.

what's the deal with nikki anyway? Does her counterpart have super strength or something? What exactly are the powers of her other self other than being a ***** and a slut? Does she have strength, cause she keeps on dropping tough guys like they're nothing.

[ragdus]

sylar didnt do anything to brody. for the last time neither Mr. Bennett nor his henchman ≠ Sylar

[SLYspyder]

sylar didnt do anything to brody. for the last time neither Mr. Bennett nor his henchman ≠ Sylar

gotcha

[3 Dev Adam]

I'm so stupid. I just re-watched all the episodes, and found out that the opening narrations on all of 'em is made by future Hiro.

[Wyrminarrd]

Great episode! This series is fast becoming my favorite :yay:

With Claire, I think the reason that the doctors didn´t react to her being ok is because they, like all of us, simply except the reality with which we are presented. It´s a lot simpler to belive that she was simply very lucky and escaped from the car crash un hurt then it is to think she somehow regened.

Man, when Nathan flew I was nearly green with envy. Flying is so the power I would most want to have, it may not be the most useful but it sure seems like the most fun one to have.

[Halcohol]

I'm so stupid. I just re-watched all the episodes, and found out that the opening narrations on all of 'em is made by future Hiro.
Seriously? Very cool. I wonder if it's future Hiro from the same time-frame as Hiro who talked to Peter on the train.

[Ghostvirus]

I must say this show has potential. On the other hand. There seems to be plot holes almost every episode. Plus they don't go into detail about each persons powers. For instance.

Nathan, can fly right? Is he still vulnerable? Like if Superman flies into a building he is cool, because the sun has his back. What about Nathan? Going that fast if he hits a building or a rock. Heck if pebble comes out of nowhere. It could cave in his skull.

I am slowly feeling that this is show is going slower than it needs to. Leaving cliffhangers unnecassarily. For me Lost go slow because I don't really know anything about that world. Where as anyone that has grown up with super Heroes pretty much knows where this show is heading.

I really hope that they pick up the pace a little bit. Not much, but just a little bit.

[Substance D]

I'm so stupid. I just re-watched all the episodes, and found out that the opening narrations on all of 'em is made by future Hiro.

what? it's mohinder. i don't remember future hiro speaking with a middle eastern accent.

[Substance D]

I must say this show has potential. On the other hand. There seems to be plot holes almost every episode. Plus they don't go into detail about each persons powers. For instance.

Nathan, can fly right? Is he still vulnerable? Like if Superman flies into a building he is cool, because the sun has his back. What about Nathan? Going that fast if he hits a building or a rock. Heck if pebble comes out of nowhere. It could cave in his skull.

I am slowly feeling that this is show is going slower than it needs to. Leaving cliffhangers unnecassarily. For me Lost go slow because I don't really know anything about that world. Where as anyone that has grown up with super Heroes pretty much knows where this show is heading.

I really hope that they pick up the pace a little bit. Not much, but just a little bit.

you're stupid. it's going alot faster than alot of other tv shows, so chill out and enjoy it. and these are just normal people, they themselves probably don't know the extent of their powers. they don't have star labs to analyze every little facet. you think nathan is going to go to a scientist and ask,"hey can you tell me why my skin doesn't rip off when i fly at superspeeds? you think it could be some super inpenetrable forcefield generated as a side effect?" or do you want some yellow box to appear on screen and explain every little detail? grow up.

[3 Dev Adam]

what? it's mohinder. i don't remember future hiro speaking with a middle eastern accent.

Sounded like Future Hero to me. Hominder's accent is TOO accentuated, at least on the first episode.

[3 Dev Adam]

For me Lost go slow because I don't really know anything about that world. Where as anyone that has grown up with super Heroes pretty much knows where this show is heading.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Heroes uses all the conventions of comic book super-herodom plus the kitchen sink, but it also manages to throw us a curveball on every episode.

[Substance D]

Sounded like Future Hero to me. Hominder's accent is TOO accentuated, at least on the first episode.

future hiro didn't have an accent.

[3 Dev Adam]

I'm lame with accents.

[Substance D]

I'm lame with accents.

I think you've been smoking too much weed, dude. It wouldn't make sense for Hiro to talk about evolution and destiny, that's always been Mohinder's thing since the beginning of the show. Oh, and also it sounds nothing like Hiro and it sounds exactly like Mohinder. How much you wanna bet? I think you need to rewatch all the episodes again, then get back to us.

[PLAS]

well, although he missed several points on his posts, but the narration by Hiro seems like something logical

maybe the last one standing is the one telling the story

[3 Dev Adam]

I think you've been smoking too much weed, dude.

Maybe.

[Substance D]

Nope, It's Mohinder:

Sendhil Ramamurthy (Mohinder Suresh): I'm basically the narrator of the story. My character doesn't have super powers, per se, he's trying to put all of the information together and hopefully ultimately bring everyone together.
http://television.aol.com/tv-celebrity-interviews/heroes


[H] "HEROES"
Narrator: Mohinder (Sendhil Ramamurthy)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=440744&page=572&pp=30

You owe me some weed.

[AtrophyG4]

Hmm...you're probably right.


I guess I always just saw him as more of a power-blocker than a mental-blocker...but I suppose mental-blocker works more hand-in-hand with his memory-wiping power.

Also, if he is a power blocker, people can sometimes get around it. When they had Matt, Mr. Bennet said he couldn't read his mind because of his "friend", but then Matt asked who Claire was and Bennet realized that his power was further along than they thought. Its possible Nathan was further along than they anticipated as well.

And the sonic boom was awesome. I totally didn't expect that, especially after see the preview all week. That was a great way of keeping us from being desensitized by the commercial.

[AnimeJune]

I dont think we will see much of Brody - he is no longer Brody, he is an empty shell. I am wondering what happened to Matt though, he is perfectly normal now...how does that happen?He's not normal - he had that freakout.

Although I really like his character, throughout the entire episode I kept thinking, "Uh, Mel Gibson called. He wants the plot points from What Women Want back."

[Substance D]

He's not normal - he had that freakout.

Although I really like his character, throughout the entire episode I kept thinking, "Uh, Mel Gibson called. He wants the plot points from What Women Want back."

Um, no.

[Darren Daring]

How no? That's pretty much the plot of the movie.

[Sub-Zero]

what? it's mohinder. i don't remember future hiro speaking with a middle eastern accent.

it is mohinder. whoever said it was future hiro is just getting way too excited about a character that may or may not exist in the future if the heroes stop the bomb. he was on screen for 2 minutes. he said nothing cool. and mohinder's not middle eastern, he's indian. that's south asian. plus he's speaking in a british-like accent that someone from india would most likely have. people of indian descent get hella offended when someone makes that makes mistake.

[Substance D]

it is mohinder. whoever said it was future hiro is just getting way too excited about a character that may or may not exist in the future if the heroes stop the bomb. he was on screen for 2 minutes. he said nothing cool. and mohinder's not middle eastern, he's indian. that's south asian. plus he's speaking in a british-like accent that someone from india would most likely havel. people of indian descent get hella offended when someone makes that makes mistake.

sweet, then i'll keep it up :up:

[Sub-Zero]

ok.

[Ghostvirus]

you're stupid. it's going alot faster than alot of other tv shows, so chill out and enjoy it.

For future record calling a person stupid right off the bat. Can result in a person not listen to what you have to say.:whatever:

I am enjoying it for now, but in about 2 seasons I could see you being one those people (like some lost fans) who are bi**hing because it going to slow. People need to chill out. This is only the 5th show, & people are acting like it is end all be all. Some of you are going to look foolish if this shows plot holes keep getting bigger, & bigger.[/quote]


they themselves probably don't know the extent of their powers. they don't have star labs to analyze every little facet. you think nathan is going to go to a scientist and ask,"hey can you tell me why my skin doesn't rip off when i fly at superspeeds? you think it could be some super inpenetrable forcefield generated as a side effect?" or do you want some yellow box to appear on screen and explain every little detail? grow up.

No I don't want a little yellow box to appear on screen.:whatever:
Look the simple fact is that there are plot problems that if not resolved could be a problem later. Key word LATER! I really hope they clear these up.

[SLYspyder]

I must say this show has potential. On the other hand. There seems to be plot holes almost every episode. Plus they don't go into detail about each persons powers. For instance.

Nathan, can fly right? Is he still vulnerable? Like if Superman flies into a building he is cool, because the sun has his back. What about Nathan? Going that fast if he hits a building or a rock. Heck if pebble comes out of nowhere. It could cave in his skull.

I am slowly feeling that this is show is going slower than it needs to. Leaving cliffhangers unnecassarily. For me Lost go slow because I don't really know anything about that world. Where as anyone that has grown up with super Heroes pretty much knows where this show is heading.

I really hope that they pick up the pace a little bit. Not much, but just a little bit.

it's common sense nathan isn't invulnerable. didn't you see him scratch up his feet a little bit when he landed?

i can't believe anyone is complaining about the show going too slow! I wish they'd slow it down more. In my opinion, that things that have happened so far should've taken 10 episodes.

[SLYspyder]

Sounded like Future Hero to me. Hominder's accent is TOO accentuated, at least on the first episode.


um, I can't believe anyone thinks that's hiro. get your ears checked buddy. even on the very first episode before I knew who any of the characters were, I knew the narrator had a middle eastern accent.